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on a battleground blitz today trying to win over swing state voters, but republicans are hoping they're new how did he can stop the democrat duo? their momentum as fears of iranian retaliation are growing in israel, american officials are working behind the scenes to de-escalate the situation there. but the newly appointed leader of hamas's political arm may be a huge setback and for hotel workers are now charged with murder in the death of a black man outside of milwaukee, hotels. will discuss these stories and more. i'm sara sidner with john berman, kate bolduan is out today. this is cnn news central all right. brand new this morning, our first look at the new merch from the harris walz campaign it camouflage hat trying to highlight the minnesota governors love of hunting. he

was once one of the best shots in congress and also let's be honest because there is no subtlety in politics anymore. more, they are leaning into the regular guy image that walz radiates they're just getting to know coach walz, this story coach walz taught social studies and to his former high school football players, he was coach. >> it's like matchup between the varsity team and the jv squad under those friday night lights coach walz so moments ago we got our first out loud response from donald trump. which shaye my reaction is i can't believe it. i never thought this was going to be the one that was picked. he's a very very liberal man and he's a shocking pick. and i'm thrilled. i could not be more thrilled well, i could not be

more thrilled to have cnn political director david chalian with me this morning first, let's start with like i said, no subtlety in politics, coach, coach, coach, chance. >> i mean, they really want to make coach happen here. david they do and notice there was not like a recitation of what tim walz accomplished in congress are what tim walz accomplished in his years as governor of minnesota it was a leaning into the biography here. >> the coach, the high school social studies teacher the national guardsman, of course, far more. you heard kamala harris painting this picture of somebody that they believe will be very relatable to a swath of america particularly an electorally inefficient swath of america in places like michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania. john, of course, the complete flip side of that is what the republicans are doing, which is to bring up his record as governor because they think it is a far more liberal than them where many americans

are. so they're doing an ideological frame around tim walz. you just heard donald trump in that response, while the harris-walz campaign is trying to paint a more biographical picture of this middle america middle-class man. >> it looked, you just heard donald, donald trump, tom emmer was on with sarah like six minutes ago, a lot of republicans want to come on and i expect that deliver the exact same message there. david what, do you anticipate the harris-walz response will be to it if there is anything other than just like me yeah. >> there's that, but i also think we got a window of what the response will be on the specific policy pieces from tim walz himself when he was doing a lot of television over units that were part part of the public audition for getting this vp nod from kamala harris and he said that line where he's like i'm a monster, right? i want to make sure kids belize are full so that they can learn. he has aligned to push back on some of these

progressive policies that he's put in place. that's not going to stop the attacks from coming it's just a matter of john. i don't think we know right now if this electorate is in sort of an ideological mood and that's sort of how the election is going to be framed and decided. or if it's going to be more on this notion of one ticket literally trying to return to a previous administration and one ticket trying to point the path forward, having actually shed the current incumbent as a part of that effort oh, what a segue david to my next question, because if we can i want to play all the sound from the rally last night, from vice president harris and governor walz talking about president biden, let's listen there's no sound, david, because they literally did not mention his name as far as i could tell. >> once, like not once love

that you had the wipe effect to the know sound as well i mean, that is excellent yes. >> i don't this isn't terribly surprising, right? president biden is still rather unpopular. he just had to step down as the, as the nominee of his party. the presumptive nominee humans party because he didn't have the unified support and energy of his party. and so it's not terribly surprising. i don't think that as kamala harris is trying to roll out her vice presidential pick, that she's trying to point, paint a portrait separate and distinct from joe biden, but john, trust me, joe biden will be out there on the campaign trail. he will be campaigning for kamala harris, where they think he can be most helpful i just don't think he's part of the story that they want to tell out of the gate here. >> i promise we can get special effects for you every time you come on, political director david chalian, great to see you this morning. thank you very much. sarah all right. >> with us now, democratic congressman from california, john garamendi. alright the big question here that i think are on democrats mine on voters, mine is can the democrats can

the harris waltz ticket keep this momentum going? there is no one that can say they don't have momentum right now. how do you see this playing out? >> i, love it. i absolutely love where we are harris came on strong. she established herself and got the nomination. so that's right out of the box and she's also describing herself and introducing herself across america as an extremely powerful, capable well woman who could handle the job of presidency. and then she went on to choe's a tim waltz, a fellow i worked with for ten years in congress. he is an extraordinary choice because he provides the balance. i can just see this happening we're going to see harris working the cities, the suburbs, and we're going to see waltz working the friday night lights out in the communities, working and showing that this ticket understands every part of

america, not just the big east coast, west coast cities, but also the midwest that's the upper, upper minnesota was wisconsin, as well as pennsylvania. it is the dream team. i am really, really excited about it. >> i do want to ask you about some of these attacks we just had tom emmer on who is of minnesota congressman. they're attacking his his fellow minnesotan tim walz on several issues. his supporting for gender, affirming care or signing a law that allows minnesotans to apply for a driver's license no matter what their immigration status and really going after him, saying he's more liberal. we heard that from donald trump as well. then she is, how do they deal with that perception that republicans are certainly trying to create and they're looking at policy, not personality here well, they're going to be looking at both because those personalities are extremely different consider the felon and the prosecutor

now, there's a difference consider j.d. >> vance and his incredibly weird statements. and consider a very solid former school teacher former high school coach for him. member of congress, all along the way serving the constituents in the rural areas of his state. and that's going to be replicated across the nation. we're going to make in roots, inroads into what were the red areas of this? swing states. and tim waltz will do that with regard to policy, g you mean to tell me that republicans still want to talk about taking away a woman's right to choose. >> that'll fell. what part of america is that going to sell in a very, very small part of america? go ahead. republicans stay with your current policies that you're pushing in congress moving away on the international scene from support for our allies, go back to the trumpian days when our allies were trashed by the

president i go back to the issues of tax policy where the republicans provided a 2 trillion tax break to the most wealthy americans over a decade see how that sells. know, we've got the exact policies that we need to move forward with, and we've got the team to drive the policies. >> i do want to talk to you about the economy because this is one area where even though the economic index caters have been very good up until monday, where things got a little rocky on wall street. americans time and time again, have said that they don't feel good about their own personal economies because of inflation, because of the high cost of things, even no inflation has come down. there's still a feeling of, of a problem for americans as they go about their daily lives. how does tim walz and camila win over these voters, particularly the white working class voters that they lost to donald trump in particularly the swing states well,

certainly inflation is on the minds of the voters, no doubt about it. >> but also, the economy came out of a total shutdown when biden came to office and the american rescue plan was put in place, other pieces of legislation that are now driving the economy. the inflation reduction act, the infrastructure, the chips act. all of these things are foundational both to the economy. but it's about today. and today. we've seen inflation going way down. and one of the reasons for the jittery folks on wall street is that there's going to be a change the interest rate policies will change in the next few days. >> and the unknown effect of that has called jitters as created jitters on wall street but what going to have a very strong 15 million jobs said largest job growth ever in a

three-and-a-half year period has occurred in the biden-harris administration and that will carry forward as we look at the days ahead. yes. the job growth has slowed down. it was expected to slow down. that's precisely what the federal what the fed wanted to have happen. that's why they kept the interest rates high. and that effect is in place now however, it will stabilize. and that's what we are not. we will see in the days and hopefully in the next 90 days but that stability is there and it will present itself. but the need, but what needs to be known and this will be carried out in the cabin campaign. is that in place? are the key infrastructure pieces for a growing economy and the jobs will be out ahead of us and also will have tim waltz and kamala talking about the issues of education and job

preparation, and moving people that the economy i am very, very excited. in fact, i wore my minnesota coat today i noticed that in the great state of california, the golden state, you've got your minnesota close on. >> appreciate it. congressman mean john garamendi. it's gonna be hot though. be careful with that. thank you so much john. >> all right. we've got new reporting this morning on donald trump's planned new lines of attack against the freshly committed democratic ticket. and the new this morning us officials reporting that iran and its proxies are preparing for retaliation against israel as the white house races to de-escalate tension. and for hotel employees now charged with felony murder after the death of a black man, we have the new video of the fatal moment sunday. >> on the whole story, donie o'sullivan dives back into the world of misinformation no computers that are used in our election have software that was illegal this. >> information cause chaos in november's election. the whole story with anderson cooper, sunday at 8:00 on cnn okay. >> everyone our mission is to

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this now leading to for people security manager, a front desk agent, a security guard, and a bell men that are now all there has been an arrest warrants issued for those for individuals according to the medical examiner's report, mitchell died of restraint, asphyxia, and toxic effects of cocaine and methamphetamine. the report also went on to say looking at what was included in the emmys report, that it was that mitchell wasn't a frantic state, that he was combative and hiding behind objects in the lobby, tried to detain himself, locked himself into the women's bathroom. all of this before they allegedly said that they he pulled was pulled out. now, of course, people are saying this video proves that this was too so much force. in fact, take a listen to what mitchell's wife and the family's attorney had to say they are charging them with the obvious we all seen the videos. >> we've all heard the audio there was nothing stopping them

from charging these people from day one what caused his death was the fact that four people beat him to death on the sidewalk and jumped on top of him for 15 minutes. >> that is why he's dead and in some of that video, you can hear him saying, i'm sorry, mitchell. >> you can hear michel saying i'm sorry. it sounds like while you also hear some of those people that were on top of them saying stay down and stop fighting. and this is what happens when you go into the ladies room. all in all the charging documents, john saying that mitchell was held down for eight to nine minutes and it looks like at one point they even had their knees on his neck alright. >> stephanie elam, thanks so much for this reporting. appreciate it. all very troubling. sara. all right ahead. donald trump already on the attack against kamala harris is number two. on the democratic ticket. but will the trump team's new campaign playbook painting minnesota governor tim walz as a radical

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course, tim walz attacking donald trump as this morning, we're getting a preview of what donald trump thinks of tim walz, cnn's alayna treene is joining us now with a look at that. >> the attacks are coming fast and furious. now they are, they're really racing to define tim waltz before most of america can make up their minds about him themselves and look, this is a partly because they have still been kind of surprise in my conversations with trump's senior advisers, say, admit this privately, that they didn't expect the enthusiasm around harris and kind of the momentum that she has been able to sustain last as long as it has. >> and so while they've tried to figure out how best to define harris and which attacks stick the best with voters. now they're trying to do that with walls and really seeing how they can tie them together. now, part of that goal is to try and paint walz as someone who was even more liberal than both harris and joe biden. and what they really want to do is focus. i'm told on the last four years specifically, even

though he was governor starting in 2019, they really want to focus on his last four years and part of that is because we are multiples in congress for 12 years. he was actually more widely viewed as more of a moderate democrat he had voted with republicans to strengthen the border. he had pushed for trillions of dollars in deficit reductions. he also had the backing of the nra, although they later pulled to that support once he became govern out. but as governor, he was more progressive and some of the key things that the trump campaign is planning to point to and sees on is how he enshrined abortion rights into law. he protected rights for gender affirming care. he expanded universal gun background checks, all things that they're going to try news and paint him as being very liberal and being very progressive. now one interesting thing as well that i was told yesterday from my conversations with trump's team he is that they breathe a sigh of relief that harris did not choose pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, trump actually addressed that himself just

moments ago on fox and friends, take a listen to what he said but when he didn't pick shapiro and i don't think shapiro was the second best person or the third. i think there were other people better than him. i know them all and so but i was shocked when when it came into the final two that he didn't pick shapiro. i was very surprised so what donald trump just said right there is exactly what i've been hearing from trump's advisers, which they were actually more concerned about someone like shapira. >> again, he's very popular in his state of pennsylvania. that is a state that both of the harris end trump campaign sees as vital to winning the election. can come november and you're going to see a lot of attacks over why harris perhaps didn't select shapiro, the trump campaign is arguing it's because shapiro, who is jewish, had received some criticism for the way that he was criticizing the tone of some protests of the israel hamas war. sara all right. >> alayna treene, thank you for your reporting this morning. i appreciate it. john all right.

>> with us now, the republican governor of north dakota, doug burgum, governor, thanks so much for being with us. you know, it's interesting remembering back to when you were running for president, you are about to get into debate stage your competitors and governor walz said that he thought you were the most normal candidate on that debate stage, and that if he had a vote in the republican primary, i think he said he would have voted for you. so how would you describe that? is that the upper midwest nice? >> well, i think it was a nice comments that our neighbor, a tim wolf said over a year ago. i'm sure you showed some clips that he shared when i was running. was in contention for vice president that wouldn't be as complimentary but i think that i think it's interesting the positioning, but as a neighbor of minnesota, we share about a 225 mile border with minnesota. i can tell you that it minnesota is the california, the midwest, and that's just not a soundbite. you look at the energy policies of that state they're on the same track

adopting california ev standards, trying to eliminate internal combustion cars passing laws that tim is sign that basically saved rid of baseload electricity if it doesn't come from these intermittent sources of wind and solar. and so it is they're on a path. there were there driving up energy costs up, which is a huge tax on working class people and affordability. and the end of the day this election is going to be between trump and harris 90 days from now is when the election is coming. the honeymoon period of just talking and fighting over the bio's is going to go away. and this election is going to be about but inflation, the border are wars overseas and those are the issues where trump is strong and harris this week, did you know that when he was in congress, tim walz voted for the keystone pipeline yes but, he certainly has changed as governor. i mean, he's he's he's signed into law and supported every liberal progressive policy that minnesota is had the last four

years. and i think it's part of the reason why bernie sanders liked him and it's part of the reason why harris picked him because her california's policies and the minnesota policies are very, very much alive as and as you were just commenting a year, commenting with, i mean, part of the reason why we've got tim walz as a vp pick is because the harrison her first choice is as a presidential candidate basically was bowed to the hamas wing the democrat party and said, we can't have someone who supports israel on the ticket. >> governor, or are you jewish me? >> no, i'm not. okay. i'm asking that because you weren't picked to be donald trump's running mate. so there are other reasons besides religion not to be chosen as a running mate, correct? >> well, yeah. i mean, yeah, because shapiro also spoken out that he was pro-school choice in of course, that doesn't fly with the teachers unions. and so i can understand why maybe shapiro's popular in

pennsylvania because he's adopted somewhat would be considered republican policies let me ask you this. you have how would you describe the decision making capabilities of people who don't have children? well, i think that this debate about that as i mean, we're we've got americans and whether you've got people that are step parents, parents, single. i don't think that that matters and i think it's a question about how do we move this country forward? that works, make sure it works for everybody, and that's why president trump's policies. whether it's reducing inflation are protecting the border i think again, everyone's talking about what's the right thing for america, but the policies that president trump is going to run on and win on, it doesn't matter if you're republican independent or democrat those policies improved of your life and that's how voters are going to decide this fall. are they better off today than they were four years ago the answer

is going to be no and they're going to vote for president trump. >> when you ever used the phrase childless cat, ladies that's not a phrase that i would would would ever consider using know. but i think that what it's not it's not going to determine how this election goes. because again, this is going to be between president trump and it's going to be between when harris between those two and it's whose policies you've got a harris has didn't have to go through a primary to get to the position where she's now the nominee and she doesn't have a single as of two days ago, there wasn't a single policy on our website and it's just a blank slate right now. i think americans are going to want to know what she going to do about inflation, what she going to do about the border, what she going to do about energy policy? >> i do think you're right that people are going to want to know more positions from both candidates. and certainly we encourage both to do as many interviews as possible. i keep hearing you talk about the democratic process here and i'm struck by how much concern there has been from some republicans how the democrats chose their nominee. here. and

i do wonder, is this some kind of predicate, maybe to argue about the legitimacy of the election. if the republican ticket loses again no, i don't think is that i just think this is a reaction to a lot of the last year all you've heard from the democrats was about their concerns about democracy. >> and i think if they're going to try to claim high ground there and then not apply it to their own process. it's going to become political fodder but i think the real issue is we know that when joe biden got put in four years ago, it was a ruling coalition that came together through some form of agreement. i mean, when he went from getting fifth in new hampshire to winning in south carolina in less than two weeks. and the same thing happened here behind the scenes, behind closed doors whether the powers that be whether those donors are brokers or former president's said, hey, biden's out and kamala is going to be in and i think that that's that's just

what happened. i think everybody knows that you're commenters your commentators ron klain himself and others have just said, hey, this is how this it's thing went down and it's just an unusual thing in america when generally we've got a competitive primary to produce candidates and in our case, president trump was a highly contested primary governor doug burgum. >> we do appreciate your time. thanks so much for being with us. >> all right. new this morning, another major defeat for progressives in congress. cnn projecting that the so-called squad member cori bush, will lose her house seat the missouri primary that's the way more when to trade bitcoin plus

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them was the fact that she was an early fully and fervent color for a ceasefire in gaza. and as a result, the super pac affiliated with aipac actually got involved in this race spending 9 million on ads against her including adds that highlighted the fact that bush was one of six democrats in the house to vote against president joe biden's infrastructure bill back in 2021, she voted against it because she believed that it didn't have enough climate provisions in the legislation, but what she was painted as is being a thorn in the side of the president in a very strongly held democratic district that really went on to hurt her. the other attacks against her were the shoe was more focused on national issues, than local issues. and obviously this is a huge moment for progressives in the house of representatives because she is seen as a member of the squad. she is seen as someone who has close ties to progressives. she was also facing an fbi investigation into the misuse of campaign

funds, something that she has denied, but there were just so many issues going into this primary that were stacked against her so it's not a complete surprise that she lost last night lauren fox. >> thank you so much for that. there from capitol hill. actually, the newsroom there in washington, dc. appreciate it minnesota strength comes from our values our commitment to pick, gather to seeing past our differences do always being willing to lend a helping hand? >> those are the same values i learned on the family farm and tried to instill in my students that is minnesota governor tim walz leaning into his midwestern roots as the trump campaign and republicans are trying to define him this morning as a liberal. >> ken martin vice chair of the democratic national committee, and the chair of the minnesota democratic farmer labor party joins us now, always good to speak to someone from the dfl. thanks so much for being with us. look, you've heard republicans talking this morning saying that governor walz is anti-energy soft on

crime bad for the minnesota economy. what's your response to that well, look, they're going to say whatever they're going to say, the reality is his record speaks for himself and itself. >> look, crime is down in minnesota. we have record job growth minnesota is the economic engine for the upper midwest. we have the best gdp, the lowest unemployment rate more people but working than ever before we have real job growth and wage growth in this state. the reality is, is that i think folks like doug burgum, north dakota, south dakota governors are jealous. what governor walz has been able to do here in minnesota and his record is one of success and, you know, look, when he came into being governor and into office, he sat down and he said he was going to build one minnesota one that worked for people throughout this state and that's what he's done, it's not a surprise. he's on the ticket because he's got a great record of actually doing things to improve people's lives here in this state. >> one of the thing that a lot of people in the country saw. and maybe first became introduced to go i'm going to walz was in 2020 during the

chaos that was on the streets of minneapolis after the killing of george floyd and governor walz has been criticized for not calling in the national guard sooner, criticized by some democrats, including the mayor of minneapolis so how do you explain how it took so long for him well, look, i mean, the governor ultimately did call in the national guard. >> he made sure he had the largest mobilization of the national guard since world war ii. and while donald trump was tweeting from the white house and encouraging people two take the law into their own hands to become vigilantes, to go out and shoot people in the streets governor walz was trying to solve one of the worst crisis we've seen in our state. and he mobilized, as i said, the national guard he made sure we restored law and order and i think post the riots, i think the governor did exactly what a governor should do, which is to bring communities together to help rebuild and help the healing process and to make

sure that we addressed some of the real challenges with policing in this state, but also with race he says and what we saw, we never should see someone murdered in the streets ever again, like what happened to george floyd. and i think the governor's leadership during that time was critical to move in this state for it. >> again, just to be clear, some of the criticism did come from democrats. this wasn't just republican criticism about, about how long it took to call on the guard. let me ask you this. do you think minnesota is a competitive state in the election well, look, i mean, it was it's been closed the last few election cycles. >> you know, we obviously have the longest streak of voting for the presidential nominee of any state in the nation. so you can't take anything for granted in this state. my old mentor and politics, paul wellstone used to say you run like they're 20 points behind, even if you're 20 points ahead. and so the reality for us is we don't take anything for granted. there's probably more competitive battleground states out there for sure like minnesota is on the battleground list pennsylvania for sure. critical battleground

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into fox and friends and hinted at a potential upcoming debate. with kamala harris. listen here and she's sort of a nasty person, but not a good good debater. >> but we'll see because will be debited debating or i guess in a pretty near future, it's going to be announced fairly soon. >> so the nasty woman line coming back again and when it comes to a potential debate between the vp's in front of a rowdy crowd. minnesota governor tim walz had this to say and i got to tell you i can't wait to debate the guy that is if he's willing to get off the couch and show up we saw what he said there. let's for him, brian stelter, a special correspondent at vanity fair. it's so good to see you, bryan that certainly sounded like a challenge. he also taking a jab at him about the couch controversy, which i'm going to let you talk about.

>> the count controversy is a mess. you know, people can look it up online. it's both disinformation and also a really sick joke at the same time and i was surprised walz went there but i am not surprised that he wants to challenge j.d. vance to a debate. i think this vp debate is going to be a lot more interesting than usual, sara, because viewers already know a ton about donald trump. they know a lot about pamela harris, but they don't know a lot about walls or vance and these two men have put forth different visions of what it means to be profamily. so i'm excited for this debate and the good news is, it does seem it's going to happen, right? both sides do want to debate. we know that cbs had been in talks with the campaigns about debates in august. now those loaded september, and i'm told by a source of cbs, that they've offered several dates for a vice presidential debate, and they're in active conversations about getting it scheduled you know, it's kind of hard to pin donald trump down on this, whether he will or won't debate kamala harris. he says he will debate her, but

he's put caveats. first of all, he had a debate that was scheduled that he agreed to on abc, right. with us former president the former president with president biden. of course, by no longer in the race it is now kamala harris now he's saying here once a debate to be on fox and now he's saying yes, i will debate her. what are the chances do you think that this debate between kamala harris and donald trump will actually happen i think we heard a big change in tone just in the last hour, right? >> trump saying we're going to debate, i'm going to debate her. that's a big change in his tone from even just a few days ago when he was out there claiming there was a fox debate on september 4 fox didn't actually know about, but there are tensions with regards to debating on a right-wing network, for example, yet yesterday of fox anchor said that conversations were happening about a debate in september and a harris campaign official pushed back telling me, no, that's not true. the harris camp was not actively talking to fox about a debate. now maybe that's changed. maybe there will be one, but i think what's more likely is that trump is going to agree to

that original abc plan sometime in september. the date was number tenth on abc. but we know there are multiple networks all now trying to get in on this because the democratic ticket has changed. so there are multiple offers from multiple networks and it seems to me trump now losing momentum is going to be inclined to actually, as harris said, say it to her face we've now seen the power of debates. i mean, the last debate that really changed the course of political history was it could be argued, was nixon and kennedy the next biggest one, if you look at history, seems to be biden and trump changing the course of political history. what do you see may happen with the he's debating and how that might have a big impact. whereas doesn't necessarily have a big impact on the way that people vote. but this one could and that's why this year is so unusual with regards to debates, right? because the commission on presidential debates, as basically been sidelined

because the harris and trump camps have taken over and they've done it themselves, negotiating with individual networks and at different points along the way, the different campaigns have more motivation, more incentive to want to get on the debate stage. so we may actually end up with more than two presidential debates more than one vice presidential debate i'm maybe i'm being a little too hopeful. but the reason i'm hopeful is because i think these debates are valuable to the viewers. harris, for example, has not done a sit down interview since becoming the nominee. i know the public has a lot of questions for her and for walz. and debates are a way to get those answers. so frankly, the more debates the merrier, not just for television networks, but also for the american people the voters themselves i am curious, brian, when you, when you sort of look at this, at this landscape and where we are there is a certain amount of momentum that the republicans are seeking now on the democratic side, the republicans are the ones that had it during their convention. >> it looks like that has really shifted. do you think that will be the key to getting

donald trump to debate because he sees this momentum and wants to stop it definitely helps explain the tone shift from him in the last hour or so. harris all along has been saying she wants that september 10 debate to happen. we're heading into an unusual time of year, the democratic convention and then the dog days of august. it's going to be labor day before we know it. so the idea of a debate in the second week of september feels like optimal window for both these campaigns, they will be within the two month mark. there'll be even closer to early voting. it's in both sides interests, both campaigns interests to get on that debate stage. and the same is true for the vp is because both vance and walz want to introduce themselves to the american people. >> it is crazy to think we have just three months until the november election. brian stelter. thank you so much for coming on and talking us through that. appreciate you. thanks john. >> all right. this morning, us officials are sending a message of de-escalation in the middle east, looking to calm the rising tensions there. of course everyone on pins and needles about a possible

iranian strike against israel. >> hamas has named yahya sinwar one of the architects of the october 7 terror attack as the new head of its political bureau with us now cnn military analyst, retired lieutenant general mark hertling, general, great to see you this morning. >> look, we haven't seen in a iranian response yet, or a large scale hezbollah response over the last few days and hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah said the anticipation is part of the attack in a way, what does he mean there? what's happening during this period it, what it is surprising john that we haven't seen an attack yet. >> i mean, a lot of people i anticipated that as early as last week and i know there were a lot of folks getting spun up about the potential and the united states has pushed a lot of weapons systems and aircraft to the region, as well as attempting to get the uss lincoln carrier battle group into the region. but what i would say is the anticipation

is interesting, but it tells you what iran might be trying to do. there were indicators that they were going to attack from multiple directions, both from iranian launch sites in western iran, but also in coordination with hezbollah firing rockets and missiles from northern israel. so all of those things are factors. there's still a lot of debate about the potential courses of action that the iranians will use and how they will coordinate that with all of these groups that are in the region, they're trying to control not only their own launch sites from western iran, but also control truthfully free free-flowing. >> what i call free-floating electrons of independent groups as below, hamas pnf in a pmf in iraq and syria here you houthis in yemen. >> so they've got a bevy of folks are trying to put together for this kind of strike. >> yeah, you could see and i have dots here and all the regions, all the places where

iran has influence here you can see the variety of factors at play here and where are the attacks could come from? that's what israel could be very concerned about this morning, general, while i have you here, if i can ask you one presidential related question here. all of a sudden on both presidential tickets and i've put up pictures here. we have two former enlisted men here. we've got j.d. vance, who was a marine and we've got tim walz who member of the army national guard, first of all, well, it's striking how similar they looked when they were both young and in uniform, but just talk to me about the significance of this having enlisted veterans on the ticket well, first of all, john all young soldiers look the same as because we're a couple of old guys pointing that out. but what i'd say is j.d. vance enlisted in the marine corps right after high school he served for 12 or four years of which six months of that was spent in iraq. he was there as a public affairs specialists, which means he would go around with units reporting on their

actions. he served six months in combat tim walz on the other hand also enlisted right after high school at the urgings of his father's saying, hey, the national guard would be a good thing to get into. he served a total of 24 years, multiple enlistment it's in rose from the ranks of private all the way up to command sergeant major. now he did not retire as a command sergeant major because he didn't attend the school. that's required for sergeants majors to attend, but he retired as a master sergeant, but he served in a battalion command sergeant major position, which means that's the senior enlisted the member of a unit of about what was in artillery battalions. so i would suggest it was probably about 600 soldiers. that's an adviser to a commander in that case, a lieutenant colonel. he is the senior enlisted guy talking to the commander of an artillery battalion deployed to several places, none of which were combat, but he's deployed in support of combat. you're talking about two different

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