had those tickets? >> look if if people don't want to go to the concert, i'll take the tickets so i'll give him to my daughters. i mean, i feel that comfortable. the british, including british intelligence, mi5, and british police, i think are all over this right now. i think be very difficult frankly, in this high alert to get somebody in and around wembley stadium. so i would go all right. >> good to know. is that the appreciate it as always. thank you. >> thank you. >> thanks to all of you for joining us tonight. i'm erica hill in for erin burnett. be sure to stay tuned. the news continues right here on cnn ac360 starts now tonight on 360, the former president meets the press, embraces the debate with vice president harris. >> he shunned just days ago, and it gives a lot of facts. the cold shoulder we are keeping him honest also, someone who served in the national guard, what tim walz for a decade weighs in on the

timing of his retirement and allegations it was to avoid service in iraq. and later we'll could have been in mass casualty nightmare and now canceled taylor swift concert, the latest on what authorities say three suspects were planning to do, and how good evening. john berman here in for anderson. so it turns out that after backing out of a september 10 presidential debate on abc, donald trump is backing back in. that was the main delegative news and a mountain of ramblings at his press conference today at mar-a-lago, he now says he wants to three debates. the other two on fox and nbc. vice president harris late today said this about the abc face off i'm glad that he's finally agreed to a debate on september 10. i'm looking forward to it and hoping as for the rest of the press conference, it was a very lengthy very trumpy a fair one that left a pro harris strategy is telling cnn's jamie gangel, they hope he holds one every day and prompted pro

trump strategist ari fleischer to tweet partway through. trump should stop the news conference. now, don't turn this into the covid 19 90 minute briefings, but like those briefings, the former president held court held forth and held the facts largely at arm's length or beyond, such as here we have a very bad economy right now. we could, we could literally be on the throes of depression, not recession, a depression and they can't have that. they can have that in fact, the economy grew by an estimated 2.8% last quarter and has been growing since the end of the pandemic. >> so no depression and no recession now industrials were up nearly 700 points today. he also said, this look at what's happened to energy, look at what's happened not only to their cars, where gasoline has gone from $187 or 87 and we have, we had moments when it was below that but has gone from $1.87 to five $607 so keeping them honest according

to aaa, the nationwide average price of a gallon of regular is $3.45, and the highest is in hawaii, averaging out at 468, not $7. he also falsely claimed the democrats, if they win the election will force everyone to buy electric cars and did not mention that domestic oil production according to the federal energy information agency, is higher than when he was president. it was growing when he was president and continue growing after he left office as for how he left office. here is some of his answer to maggie haberman of the new york times, challenging his claim that it was a peaceful transfer of power when he departed and bear in mind, he began it by defending the people who attacked the capitol no, i think the people that if you look at january 6, which lot of people aren't talking about very much. i think those people were treated very harshly. when you compare him to other things that took place in this country were a lot of people are killed, nobody was killed on january 6, but i think that the people of january 6 were treated very

unfairly and where they were there to complain, not through me. they were there to complain about an election in fact, one of the attackers, ashli babbitt, was fatally shot trying to force her way toward the house chamber. three other people died of medical emergencies. in addition, capitol police officer brian sicknick, who was attacked with pepper spray during the riot died after suffering strokes the next day, the medical examiner found that sicknick died of natural causes, but also told the washington post that quote, all that transpired played a role in his condition and about that day, the former president keen, as he was to downplay the horrific and yes, deadly violence made sure to make it instead, about two of his favorite topics himself and crowd size the whole thing. >> i had crowds. i don't know who's ever had a bigger crowd than i have, but i had it many times the biggest crowd i've ever spoken before was that day. and i'll tell you it's very hard to find a picture of

that graph. you see the picture of a small number of people relatively going do the capital, but you never see the picture of the crowd. the biggest crowd i've ever spoken. i've spoken to the biggest grads. nobody spoken to crowds, bigger than me if you look at martin luther king, when he did his speech, his great speech and you look at rs same real estate, same everything same number of people, if not, we had more now, according to the house, january 6 committee's report, about 53,000 people were on hand to hear donald trump that day, according to the national park service, dr. king's march on washington drew a quarter of the million people starting it's often is cnn political commentators from across the political spectrum, david axelrod, ashley allison, and scott jennings. >> david, this mar-a-lago thing today, what it did accomplish well, nothing necessarily helpful to him. >> i don't think it

accomplished something. maybe for the harris campaign. look, i think john, what's happened here is that they planned a very effective campaign against joe biden and they may think of it as having one, a campaign against joe biden because he's no longer the candidate, but they landed about three months early and now they have a different race and he's clearly freaked out about it. the reason that he went on and on about crowd size was because he's been watching these rallies of kamala harris and he has crowd mv because she's stealing his act. she's she's got big enthusiastic crowds. i also thought it was noteworthy a couple of other things. one is he repeated this notion that somehow it was unconstitutional that she was the candidate because she wasn't but they candidate in the primaries. i mean, she was running with the president so i think he's

laying the predicate here for claiming that somehow this was this is all illegitimate. if he loses this election, i think that's maybe what he thinks. but in any case, i leave you with this question. >> look at kamala harris the last few weeks and look at donald trump today and tell me who looks and feels like the confident candidate it isn't donald trump and that is a sea change here from the guy we saw, milwaukee a few weeks ago who thought he was on his way to an electoral landslide. it really was just a few weeks ago, which is remarkable. scott, you were on cnn's flagship morning show, cnn new central. and you said for donald trump, disciplined on message will deliver the day on disciplined gets dicey. was today more deliverance or dizziness but they have to focus on how they're going to frame the election. i think axe is right. they had a plan to defeat joe biden and the framework was basically strength versus weakness. they

executed it every day and they were winning that framework. now the framework is apparent any republican that is radical liberals versus common sense conservatives. >> they have to prosecute that case. >> and the same ruthless, focused way they were prosecuting strength versus weakness against biden. it's not exactly happening every day right now, i would challenge acts on one point about the competence point. it's pretty competent to stand up and do a press conference. kamala harris is not willing to do that right now, is not sitting down to have her record challenged by any journal well, listen, i think that does show something of a lack of confidence and if they achieved anything good today, it was to make the point trump is who he is and he will stand and answer questions about his views and she will not. i think this was part of a plan to try to draw her out, which they have to do, but was disciplined reward you would use to describe it. >> oh, it was 90 minutes ashley, one, of the things that came up again was how he in his appearance before the national association of black

journalists said that that vice president harris happened to turn black and before was she said she was indian heritage, portuguese, biracial, and always has been and always that she has this here's what he said about it today well, you'll have to ask her that question because she's the one that said i didn't say it so you'll have to ask her from her standpoint, i think it's very disrespectful to both really, whether it's indian or black, i think is very disrespectful. it's about to me it doesn't matter so obviously, he did say it. i mean, that's a lie. it was he who brought it up? he said it on prompt and just to remind people that was that this is that moment she was, always of indian heritage and she was only promoting indian heritage. >> i didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn turn black and now she wants to be known as black so i don't know. >> is she indian or is she black again, if he keeps on repeating this, what can slash should the harris campaign do

with this? >> and what do you think the harris campaign should do with this appearance today in general? >> well, first on the issue black, i actually don't know if the harris campaign should entertain him on that. they should continue to tell the story of who kamala harris's a biracial person who is the daughter of immigrants, one who happens to be a black jamaican and the other who happens to be in indian woman and that is a story that is resonant for many people in this country who are biracial. i think what the harris campaign has been really good at is engaging folks on social media. because when i hear donald trump say it's disrespectful or embarrassing or whatever the word he was that he used. >> i want to say to who i'm proud to see kamala harris at the top of the ticket as a black woman. >> and i know a lot of southeast southeast asians are also very proud of her because of the history maker that she is. so let the communities protect her and let the campaign defend her record and identify her biography in terms of this press conference. i

mean, go ahead and donald, keep doing it every day. go out there and remind us who you were and covid when you told us to put bleach in your arms today when you say continued to say lies that are untrue and we will fact check them. i don't think it helps him get any new voters. i do think that the vice president, she came out, she answered a couple of questions today, two days after announcing her vice president. and i do know she said she would get an interview on the books soon with mainstream media. so it's coming, but that contrast is very clear and i think it's working for the keras. >> she said she get an interview by the end of august, which immediate terms in that sun. and so david, to that point do you think if vice president harris did answer a few questions, say a couple of minutes worth compared to the nine 90 minutes that donald trump did. what does she need to do? do you think in terms of answering questions to reporters on the trail in sitting down for an interview well look, i would do i would be i would opt for more rather than less. i would come to the back of her campaign plane and

talk to reporters on the record, i would do scrums because i'll tell you the longer that you wait, the more pressure that builds and you turn these interviews into events that are more than they should be so she looked she's riding a wave right now and the wave is pretty productive. and she's doing well with these events that she's doing. she's going into a convention here and they're going to ride that wave. but you can't camp presidential campaigns. the bar always gets lifted. there are other tests she has to pass. those are part of the test she's going to have to she knows that they must know that as well. she's gonna do this debate on september 10. you sure. as hell going to take questions then so i don't think this is going to be an issue by them, but one thing that will be john, that the president said didn't think he didn't

think would is abortion. and his answers on that question today we're kind of head scratchers to he said that that all of america wanted roe versus wade to be repealed. republicans, independents in democrats, that's manifestly untrue. majority of americans didn't want that to be the case. and he said he didn't think that abortion was and now it's done and it's gone to the states and it's all okay. and i don't think it's going to be much of an issue in this election. well, that is a gigantic bit of wishful thinking. i think it's going to be a huge issue in this election ashley, the debates, donald trump backed back in to the abc debate that's one vice president harris, do you think she should do the other two? how should she approach the issue of other debates? >> well, to date, donald trump has been the person who has been dictating, even through the republican primary, what debate, when debate why a debate. and so i think kamala harris, right now standing in her power a little bit as a candidate and saying, great, let's do september 10. he just

said yes to it today sure. i'll assess whether or not i do more after i think she's a great debater, and so i think that the more debate she does, the better, but the fact that they are going to have one is impressive. it's more than we probably i mean, if he's actually i'm still skeptical. he shows up or that he doesn't back out after the dnc or makes some up some excuse of i don't know. he has so many tricks up his sleeves. all right. >> we're going to take a quick break much more to discuss next what a national guard member who served with tim walz has to say about allegations he left for 24 years to avoid deployment in iraq, will also be joined by adam kinzinger, who currently serves in the air national guard and later the absolutely chilling details of what austrian authorities say three young terrorist suspects had planned for a taylor swift concert in vienna nce upon a

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lower, as to why ben he retired after 24 years of service to months before his unit got word, they would be deploying to iraq. here are somewhat on fox billed as a member of waltzes battalion and his take on it real did what we were supposed to do. we did the right thing and dishonorable what he did. he left he loved to have somebody else up to take over a spot. he just ditched us so that's one view earlier today seen as brianna keilar spoke with a man named joe eustis who served with governor walz, used to says, he does not see it i within politically and will campaign against him about the iraq allegation. >> know he told brianna, quote, he was a good as good a soldier as you'll find. i don't think it's fair to characterize his service the way they have. he did, however, take issue with walz talking about an assault weapons ban, saying that he carried one quote in war whilst was deported would italy as part of the war in afghanistan, but not the war zone itself what does that was ryan marty, who served in walz's former unit until 2021, deployed with

him to italy and was part of the units deployment to iraq, sergeant. thank you so much for being with us. so when you served with tim walz did it seem to you like he was trying to avoid being deployed to iraq? what was the overall feeling among your unit absolutely not. >> i don't think he tried to avoid that deployment. all in fact, i'm really glad he went to congress and did what he did if you what give someone grief for ticket commotion or moving on i think that's wrong. i think him going to congress is like taking a promotion. he did a lot of good things. as i first heard, it's, our pager but he didn't even more better things for us as a congressman and governor and hopefully going forward as vice president. >> so we played some sound for a man who said he served in walz's battalion, who called walz dishonorable for getting out before the unit went to iraq. what do you say about that? >> i would totally disagree

with that. tim is probably the one that most honorable man i know i have no hard feelings and somebody my folks for a unit, we really understand what he was doing was important. moving on to the next job. going to congress. >> and did anyone talk about this at the time so at the time, i mean, there might've been some discussion, but really we had a mission. >> we're moving on, and we know he was going on and going to be our congressman and take care of us, which he did when he came home so i do. >> want to play a clip of a video, the harris campaign had posted on social media. governor walz is talking about his decision to support an assault weapons ban after the 2018 parkland shooting. listen to what he said i've been voting for common sense legislation that protects the second amendment, but we can do background checks. we could do cdc research, we can make sure we don't have reciprocal carry amongst aid and we can make sure that those weapons of war that i carried in war is the only place where those weapons

so he said carried in war. he was stationed in italy, never in afghanistan. do you feel he should have said carried in war i think there might be some technicality do what he said. >> however, i remember when i was in italy on guard duty, we have live rounds and ammunition and weapons we may not have been hit horizontal. what we were carrying loaded weapons but it was not i don't really take it wasn't in combat there it was not a combat zone. >> it was not a warzone know you knew tim walz as a teacher as well. >> what impact has he had on your life? >> so i'm gonna change up and call him mr. wallace. now because as a teacher, i would say he definitely inspired me he really brought to the classroom live not only in a social studies class, we didn't just learn geography amounts. you really dove in a culture and kind of inspired us to really understand and respect people. i also got the

opportunity to have me and my football coach and then later on, he recruited me into the national guard along with my brother and some other students. i know sgt we do appreciate your time. thank you so much for being with us you're welcome. >> thank you, john. >> all right. back with a scott jennings and joining us former republican congressman adam kinzinger, who is lieutenant colonel, and the wisconsin air national guard so-called reason. let me just start with you or colonel, i'll call you colonel in this case. based on everything you've heard now, what is your feeling on how governor walz has depicted his service i think it's just fine. >> i mean, look first off, let me just say i'm scared to death that now anybody that ever served in the military is not going to want to run for office because then they look over everything you've ever said and can you unfairly attack somebody for something then it becomes a headline story. so what are we doing here? we're discouraging people with service. look tim walz had every right after 20 years to retire from the army national guard, he chose to

retire before his unit was alerted. >> he chose to retire while elie ran for congress, get every right to do that. and it is absolutely insane that people would say otherwise. i mean, look, if he was leaving the unit high and dry like some people are out there saying the guard can stop loss, you which means you cannot retire. you have to stay because they need that position. but as you mentioned he obviously was replaced by somebody plenty capable. he did as 24 years, which is four years after 911, by the way. so he was always within a deployment window until he made a decision to quit everybody after 20 years has a right to quit and we're not attacking j.d. vance, or should we, by the way, for not re-enlisting in the marine corps because he did it has duty and he was done. well, this is the same thing with walz, right now. >> it's got a couple of things. number one, i think anybody who puts on the uniform adam kinzinger, walz, vance, and anybody else who puts on the uniform deserves our thanks. there are heroes. they protect our freedoms and i

think that ought to be set up front when we're having these debates. number two, i think anybody who goes into politics is going to have their record scrutinized. i think it's pretty clear evidenced laying out there now that at times walz may have embellished his record. now, you can decide that it's not a big deal. you can say it is a huge deal. you could say you don't care about it, but when you go into politics, you are going to have your record scrutinized. it doesn't minimize the fact that he served honorably for over 20 years. but when you get into the political arena, everything you've ever done is going to be looked over. so i think it's fully appropriate for them to look at walz's record. i mean, they're looking over everything j.d. vance ever said about himself. i think they're going to look over everything wall said about himself congressman what we just the sound from wall saying that he carried a weapon in war. >> do you take issue with that i mean, he probably shouldn't have said it. >> but keep in mind when an italy he was actually probably technically under operation enduring freedom, which was anybody that deployed to that area, was part of a contingency

operation which is the war in afghanistan. so i guess technically, you could say it, you obviously shouldn't have said that, but that's one comment after 24 years of military service, when he retired honorably and i look, i agree with scott. you can expect to have your military record looked at. but where you should be attacked as if you were dishonorably discharged you lied about what you did for a job or if you're running for president of the united states again. and when your country needed you, you let your country down by running away from the draft. you want to say that tim walz, some avoided leaving, deploying with his unit and lead his unit down fine. i totally don't agree. that's crap, but listen, donald trump flip but the draft when his country needed him he and j.d. vance, who is his number two, have no right to go after anybody when the number one on the ticket was too scared to serve in vietnam and fake medical condition, anything. >> and that's got well, adam was obviously a surrogate for president biden before he dropped out of the race. i've always wondered, people who have attacked donald trump for

getting out of his military service have explained joe biden getting out of his i mean, he didn't really exactly cover himself in glory on that no, it's not it's not a thing here attacking. you're attacking trump for getting out of military service. joe biden somehow got out of militaries. i'm just wondering how you square your support for biden, but yet you attack trump on this point yeah. >> okay. good one. go with scott. i mean you have no answer. >> you have on personal vietnam, know i mean, you can sit there and giggle and laugh like a, like a, you know, screwy guy. >> but like donald trump's at his personal vietnam to come up with an ad, look if you want if you want to yes. bone spurs, it's insane. >> if you want to attack trump for getting out of military service. i think you ought to answer questions about how joe biden, whether it's you know, i agree with you. i agree with you, but listen joe biden is not attacking j.d. vance or anybody else's military service. donald trump, and his number two are attacking and tim walz, who served 24 years

when he didn't even bother to go to the drink. >> let me just ask one last question, which i think is a little bit of a one-off from whatever has happened here the last 90 seconds. none of this discussion, scott involved vice president kamala harris so there's been a lot of and i will say there's been a lot of energy and a lot of republicans pointing fingers at tim walz over the last 36 hours on this. but do you think they ought to be spending their time talking about about vice president harris and said, well, this week has been about walz and the campaign has touted his military service as a nexus to his it's a gender on gun control and they've also touted it as a nexus to his appeal to a rural america or heartland america. so i think it's fair game. look, we've spent several weeks on everything j.d. vance has ever said every podcast are out there, i think spending a couple of days on walz is to be expected and look, he he deserves scrutiny he did embellish his record. republicans believe, and that's going to be part of the campaign, whether it's the most important part, we'll find out. >> scott jennings, adam kinzinger, great to have you both here. thank you very much coming up more on the race itself, including fresh, newly

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race since she's taken over for joe biden she's a woman she represents certain groups of people, but i will say this when people find out about her, i think she'll be much less. >> i see it right now. i see her going way down to the polls now joined now by larry sabato, director of the center for politics at the university, university of virginia. and back with us david axelrod, professor first to you. one poll is one poll, but in general, the average has been creeping up for harris, what do you think can be learned or taken from this? >> well, what can be learned or taken is that joe biden stepping aside and making a tremendous personal sacrifice has paid off for kamala harris in the democratic party. there have been six nonpartisan or bipartisan national polls. they have all shown the same thing that harris has tied trump either a point or two behind or exactly even, or a point or two

ahead. and we're starting finally to see good results coming out of individual states. that is good, reliable polling, including arizona, which today showed in a poll, showed kamala harris up three over trump, which is the first time that either joe biden or kamala harris has had a lead over trump in arizona this year, georgia, by the way, the latest poll there also released today, by partisan by the aarp, is a dead tie, 48 to 48. so the question is, will it last? the bumpy extended by the democratic convention. but you really can't question that. kamala harris is doing well in the polls and has gained a lot and i don't know what polls donald trump has been looking at. i could guess it, david, i don't know how much of a chance you've had to dig in inside, but with whom do you think she is making the most progress so far? >> and where does she need to make more progress well, john,

what she's done is she's consolidating the democratic base. >> she's getting a lot of the young people who were who had strayed off back among african american voters. she's getting more of the typical vote that you'd expect a democratic presidential candidate gets. she's doing better among hispanic voters. so she's really, really assembling the democratic base and the question is, can she push out from that? but i will point out a couple of things. one is that the democratic enthusiasm in this poll is so dramatically and that's a very, very important element here, because turnout is going to be so important in these races and the second is her standing. has she had a 35% approval rating when they last polled in may and now it's up to 47 that's an enormous amount of progress. so there are a lot of positive

signs in here, but i've said it many times. i'll say it again. this is going to be a close race. this is going to be a battle and this races back to where it was, perhaps earlier in the campaign. the debate through it into different place. now, there's a real horse race. >> larry, what do you make of the fact that in terms of a third party candidate, when other candidates are included here, it does seem and that's in several polls they've seen most recently, it seems to draw more from trump than harris yes, that's a bit odd. >> i don't know if i really believe it. >> i almost said weird, but i know that's that's not the right word to you it is i don't think it'll hold. i'd be interested to know what david things. i think this is something where robert kennedy goes up and down and then you hear about a bear cub it's just strange and he really below 5% now, he is going down, down, down, and the other ones have never gotten any traction. if i

could just mention one other thing which is really critical and it's a tip of the hat to president biden. when president biden withdrew, he was at 36% support in the polling the average. now, he is mid, even a little upper 40s. he's gone up that far. and you think why because people were relieved and grateful that he did it. >> and by the way, the exact same thing happened to lyndon johnson in 1968. he was at 36% and he went into the fifth 50s two weeks after he withdrew from the race. so and it matters the incumbent presidents rating job, right? actually influences the substitute candidates percentage in the fall. >> david, since john, if i could go ahead. >> go ahead. no, i just wanted to comment on so your on your previous question about the third party vote, i actually do think this is real. i think understandable in some ways because jill stein, the green

party candidate and cornell west, the independent candidate, african american progressive, are getting fewer votes now, a lot of the people who had parked there going back and i think as he becomes more and more bizarre robert kennedy jr. is also losing sort of some of the democratic vote that he had his hanging on to some of the anti-vaxxers and conspiracy conspiracy theory buffs who have been with with him and who might be more partial to trump, i think for the first time in this race, i always believe the third parties were detriment to biden that they were going to lower the threshold enough that trump who is basically never exceeded 47% of the vote could win now, as that as that third party vote shrinks i think it's going to be to the benefit or at least it seems now to the benefit of the vice

president professor sabitha, you ask and you shall receive an answer from david axelrod there. >> our thanks to both of you really appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you democrats, new newfound enthusiasm for their ticket has a lot to do with the new running mate for vice president harris, minnesota governor tim walz is not just as folksy style in sharp attacks on republicans, but also was passed as a teacher and football coach whitney wild has that story kim is who he is. he's never changed. he's all about serving people long before he was governor tim walz to minnesota, he was mr. walls that mankato west high school and principles sherry blazing neighbor. if you ask them, who is your favorite teacher? nine times out of ten, it's going to be mr. wells because he was just that kind of teacher and he made learning relevant. >> the photos here might be faded, but his impact on former students and football players like dan clement is clear. >> i was contemplating leaving school by tenth grade, 11th grade. i was just saying i don't think this is for me. >> when then coach walz as

climate to join his football team, he followed walz's advice, but it was their daily talks clement says that changed his life. >> there's like dan, i want you with me on my team, on my crew, and i'm going to go to a lot of lengths to make sure that happens i felt flubbed and i felt seen and not just the troublesome kidd. >> were ten years in his rural town of around 45,000 and people walz taught social studies, coached football, and sponsored the school's first gay straight alliance, former student nicole brunswick says was created a new safe space for the football coach who say, look, we're going to be respectful of everybody and respect differences, period that was really bowled a 2004 rally in mankato for then president george w bush marked a turning point for walz when his students were turned away, some were spotted wearing items supporting democrat john kerry, brianna fara, was there, even though we're all discipline mean i didn't i'm sure he was as well and maybe a little upset right he never put down

their republican party. walz has said that was the moment he decided to trade public school for public service in 2006, walls won his first congressional race, ousting a six-term republican incumbent. what kind of impact did he have on the school? >> a tremendous impact because he's just a fantastic teacher. >> was this photo now sits in the high schools hall of fame, while governor walz may have left mankato, former students and colleagues save this town, never left him john, what became clear as we were reporting out, this story is that what has been crucial to his success is his wife of 30 years, gwen walz, the people we spoke with today, she is his most trusted adviser she is a true partner in this endeavor, john whitney wild has been great to have you in minnesota. thank you so much. >> coming up new video from just before the attempted assassination of former president trump, the moment of police officer encountered this shooter. >> also, we have new information on the alleged terror plot that force promoters to cancel three taylor swift concert in

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>> new information from austria on the alleged terror plot that forced three taylor swift costs are starting tonight to be canceled. authorities say the three suspects accused of planning an isis isis-inspired suicide attack are teenagers. and austria's chancellor today said their alleged plot could have caused, quote, numerous deaths in injuries. more now from cnn's salma abdelaziz chilling new details are emerging about the terror plot on a taylor swift concert in vienna, law enforcement says one of the suspects are 17-year-old, had just been hired to work at the venue. he planned to attack one of the suspects, got an application if you this ago, he had applied for a job. he had officials believed the teens had a three-pronged attack targeting one of the three sold out swift concerts for an estimated 65,000 fans each night investigators say the suspects plan to run over fans gathered

outside the stadium with vehicle, even obtaining a blue light for their car to mimic a police vehicle. then they plan to attack innocent concert goers with knives and machetes. and in a final stage, they plan to detonate explosives at the site. the alleged mastermind behind the plot is in 19-year-old suspect that lived in this home behind me here we're just an hour outside vienna authority say he has confessed best to this plot in inside the house. police say they found isis propaganda, knives and machetes, counterfeit cash detonators, and chemical explosives all three suspects were radicalized online by isis recruiters. >> it's very worrying. we can see that in austria, we have very young guys to de-radicalize due to the fact that they are using the online propaganda that brought out from isis. and also i escapee the prime suspect had pledge allegiance to isis. neighbors

say his family was always reserved. >> obviously, once they lived very reclusive lee we did not see them in their backyard or their children outside the contents are canceled, but the swifties have filled the streets of vienna fans we spoke to say they're disappointed, but grateful to be saying we make the best of a bad situation. >> and will be if hours and salma abdelaziz joins us now from vienna following one of the best stand-ups i have ever seen, the next stop for taylor swift tour is in london. >> what are authorities saying there about security concern? >> yes, john. so the london mayor, sadiq khan has spoken out and he has said that the concert will go ahead and that he's going to work with authorities, work with

partners, of course, for the event and continue to make sure that that is a secure and safe event. of course, thousands expected to attend, yet again, so taylor swift's eras tour continues, hopefully in london for those fans who are waiting with bated breath. but of course a heightened sense of security across europe. it is very worrying to see how young these suspects are in their true fears that this is part of a trend, john, just recruiting younger and younger these jihadi groups because of their ability to mold and meld their minds in just about 15 seconds besides being in your cnn piece, what are the taylor swift fans have vienna doing oh my god, they are taking over the city it is absolutely incredible. >> they will do so for the next three days. they're going to be in their outfits. they will continue singing in the streets every single restaurant, bar or club seems, it seems has some sort of offer for swifties to come in and get a free burger, get a free drink, get to go to this club. so this city continues to go hard for taylo