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interview of the century. donald trump broke his long silence on x promoted, but their conversation on musk's platform was plagued with technical problems that are overshadowing the interview itself. but at least parts it's of it at the scheduled start time. many people could not connect to the feed where it was happening. musk claims a denial of service attack as it's known, overwhelm the company's servers, but it's unclear if that was the issue or if too many people were trying to get into the room, the interview eventually got underway nearly 45 minutes behind schedule. and from there, trump launched into his normal talking points and grievances and attacks on kamala harris they're doing it right now while they're great phony candidate, don't forget, i beat i beat biden he failed in the debate miserably. >> we cannot have a democrat, we cannot have her. she's didn't competent. she's his bad is by no taxes on tips and all of a sudden she is making the species and there will be no taxes on tips. i said that months ago, all of a sudden for

politics, she says, she comes out with what i said which i think is terrible. and i think it's also hitting them very hard. these people are fake kamala wouldn't have this conversation. she can't because he's not he's not a smart person by the way. >> the glitchy conversation was not just a misfire for trump, who is hoping to use the opportunity to want kamala harris has momentum. it's also a big embarrassment for elon musk because this has happened before, during the botched launch of ron desantis, his presidential campaign. it's unclear if this will impact trump and must relationship which has gotten increasingly closer over the past few months since musk took over, what used to be known as twitter, the billionaire has used the platform as his personal megaphone expressing increasingly far-right views aligned with trump. remember, musk endorsed donald trump after the assassination attempt against him. and there's new reporting tonight that shows just how far musk has ventured and to politics, the wall street journal says his super pac wants to turn out 800,000

voters for trump in battleground states, we will dig into that later on tonight. and if you want just a sense of just how much they're romance has grown, all you have to do is track trump's evolving comments on electric cars the course go for like two hours what are you going to do? >> everyone's gonna be sitting on the highway. we're all going to be looking for a little plug-in. >> why is it that these big, powerful card companies with guys that are making 35 million a year immediately quit they so you want electric vehicles will give it to you when the things don't go far enough in there, too expensive, i'm for electric cars, i have to be, you know, because he elon endorsed me very strongly alone so i have to you have a good and you do make a great product. i have to say, i have to be honest with you, but that doesn't mean everybody should have an electric car. but these are minor details, but your product is incredible. >> all right, now he's on board with electric cars. okay. joining me now, cnn media analyst and axios senior media reporter sara fischer. former

trump 2020 director of strategic communications, marc lotter, and former democratic congressman. and 2020 presidential candidate tim ryan guys, thanks very much for being with us. sara. let me start with you first. this is a bit in your wheelhouse. elon musk is claiming that there was some sort of technical problem at the beginning of this. what do we know? >> and now you have reports out from the verge, a tech company in tech media company saying that sources said that's not actually a ddos, a denial of service attack. it was just at the systems were overwhelmed. you know, it's hard. x has become a black box so communication. what elon musk says oftentimes is what goes, but oftentimes these things can move very similar, jim, a ddos attack is overwhelming. assistant to shut it down, it could have very well been that a lot of people wanted to listen to this interview, which overwhelm the system and shut it down either way, as you mentioned at the top of your remarks, it's an embarrassment from us. they're trying to make this video platform of toys, but they can't get a livestream up and running. >> yeah. he said it was gonna be the greatest piece of entertainment or whatever. before this thing got started, that is certainly not what it

was and mark, the first 20 minutes of the interview was on the assassination attempt and then we moved on into other areas. we're going to talk about some of those areas that he got not into do you really want donald trump to be off script? sort of, you going off the cuff for two hours plus as we're finding out, he did earlier on this evening, what do you think? >> well, i think this was a great opportunity for him to reach is i saw at reach about 1.3 million at the max viewership just on twitter, not some of the other streaming platforms that were also carrying it. so you're getting a nontraditional news audience. that's consuming this conversation. and i think the fact that it was a conversation was very entertaining. it's different from a politician. what they typically do and i think people were engaged with it that way you literally heard elon musk and donald trump debating everything. obviously the economy and the border and the things you would expect, but they were talking about the

tunnels, high-speed rail spacex, a lot of just interesting thing things and i found it to be quite entertaining well, you know, and i guess opinions are going to vary on this. >> i mean, i wonder how much of this is going to come back to bite trump. when people of piece through what was said. tim, let me go to you let's listen to donald trump talk about elon musk and his approach to managing his workforce. let's listen to that you're the greatest qatar. >> i mean, i look at what you do, you walk in you want i won't mention the name of the company, but they go on strike and used it. that's okay. you're all gun you're all guns he calls elon musk the greatest qatar. >> i mean, you and i both know tim that donald trump is going to have to win these blue wall states are at least pennsylvania for that matter, to win the presidency. he's been trying to appeal to union voters. this doesn't sound like some that's going to help very

much at all. >> what the sounded like when i first heard it is that these are the conversations that happen at the fancy country clubs with the really rich people they're really rich ceos are you're a great qatar know you're a great qatar. how many jew lay off this month, how many dei lay off this month the working class people? >> and pennsylvania and michigan, wisconsin, ohio, that's what they think these folks talk about every single day. and it turns out when they're having a conversation that's exactly what they talked about. and when barack obama beat mitt romney, it was on a commercial in ohio that basically talked about romney putting a guy in a coffin that's what he felt like when he lost his job because of what mitt romney did. so you're going to be hearing a lot more of that what was just said on that conversation and you're going to be hearing it in three states in particular, not far from where i'm from right now in columbus, ohio yeah.

>> mark i mean, you and i are both old enough to remember the mitt romney campaign where mitt romney said i'd like to be able to fire people. that was a huge gap during that campaign. that was a much more quaint time in our politics when that kind of a gaffe could really cause trouble for a campaign for donald trump perhaps is just the day that ends in y, but i can't imagine mark he's. somebody from the commissary, things that you heard that and thought that was a good idea for donald trump to say that well, if i recall, they were talking about cutting government spending and efficiency. >> elon musk was really pressing donald trump on needing in efficiency commission to get rid of wasteful spending, wasteful programs with the government. and i think that was isn't what that interaction was entailing. and i think a lot of people out there do think we need to cut the size of government, cut the amount of government spending we have. and so if the clip is played you can hear it will be easily understood. >> but have you hear, if you hear him talking there, he says he says clearly the elon musk, if you go on strike you're out of here any i mean, calling him

the greatest qatar. i mean, so i mean, clearly that's what he was talking about. there well, if i mean, if government workers want to go on strike and trump administration two point other than they should be gone, but i think that's what they were talking about and we do need to get a hold of government spending. i think that was part of the free flow of this event. i'm sure both sides, you know, and obviously, as you referenced, jim, i'm sure that harris camp pain is going to try to take sound bites and use it for their advantage if she ever does an interview, we will do the same thing on our side. i mean, that's how this game is played, but i do think the context matters. they were talking about bringing more efficiency to government. ilan was pressing to say, i would volunteer to help and trump was basically praising him saying, you know, how to cut costs yeah tim, i mean, he trump did say at one point i need an elon musk. >> i need somebody that has a lot of strength and courage as far as i want to close up the department of education, move education back to the states. i mean, those kinds of comments,

obviously you're not going to sit well with a lot of voters. the people here that they don't want to see the department of education closed down. >> well, first and foremost, that they weren't talking about government workers. they weren't talking about streamlining government. they were talking about elon musk firing people because they wanted the unionize or they wanted better wages and benefits take that campaign the western pennsylvania, it take that idea michigan and wisconsin to stone-cold loser and there's no wiggling out of it and when it comes to the line, must look i kind of like elon musk, some of the things he talks about. i liked the fact that he's going into electric vehicles. i like some of the technologies that he's promoting. i listened to him tonight and i thought to myself, what is he doing? running around with donald trump? >> i look at the books that elon musk reads. >> he's trying he's trying to take the country technologically in a positive way. i completely disagree with his politics and the fact that he wants to use trump as some kind of vessel. i think this

was he was trying to throw a lifeline to donald trump tonight and it didn't workout, but this damage trump big time in the industrial states he's already on his heels. he has no message and he's trying to appeal to working class people and he's talking about how much he loves, how elon musk fires people that's terrible. you're going to, you're going to hear that for 90 days in the swing states and, i think he tried to throw him a lifeline and he throw an anchor is what happened tonight. >> yeah. and sara, what is going on with donald trump, any elon was there were a couple of moments during all of this. we're trump was saying elon musk, i thought you were a progressive or liberal and they were very simpatico. they had troubled. it was almost like two teenagers saying oh, no, you hang up first, know i'll hang up with a new hang-up. they couldn't get off the phone with one another. i mean, what is going on here? i mean, this is kind of a bromance maga bromance. what's happening? yeah. and it's been building over the past few months. >> i think it's reached a crescendo point. what's

interesting is that there was even some conversation about like musk, would you join this administration? would you be a part of 15 trump? >> i don't think elon musk is ever going to leave his post running his public and private companies. >> he's already faced shareholder lawsuits at tesla for not paying enough attention to tesla when he took over x, but he could be a strong confidant to donald trump and you know how that goes, jim, when you're a close advisor, somebody that he trusts, something that he listens to. he just falls what you want him to do on a whim? that's great for elon musk, right? if he needs policies that are pushed in his favor, he is now going to have potentially if donald trump wins a sympathetic year in the white house. >> yeah. and he talked about elon musk joining a trump administration? yes. exactly. right. another thing to note about joining. hear interesting that donald trump finally is back on x. he was led on when musk took over but as of today, he started to aggressively use the platform. now that's notable, jim, because donald trump has his own social media platform, right? he has truth social, but he opted to do it on elon musk's yes. >> mark, i mean, i i was at the white house during the final days of the trump

administration and after january 6, when twitter, at that time, the company was called twitter took donald trump off of that platform because they thought he could incite more violence if he's left on the platform. now he's back on and he's got it sounds like he's got elon musk in his corner well, one of the things elon musk talked with donald trump tonight about was the protection and honoring of free speech and the celebration of free speech around the country and around the world. >> look, and you, and i've talked about this many times, jim, over the years now with x or twitter back in donald trump's arsenal he has a larger reach every time he takes to his full social media platform than watch the super bowl, which is the most watched event in the world and definitely in our country, that's like huge platform that's 89 million people that are following him on x. in addition to the people that are following elon musk, it's a massive mark on occasion and tool that no one else has it. >> but i got to go to a break,

but tim, i mean one of the things i have to think inside the harris campaign that they're saying right now is oh yes. we want donald trump to do more press conferences. we want him back on social media as much as possible. we want him to talk about conspiracy theories about crowd sizes we want him unleashed. we want him unplugged. go ahead. let her rip no doubt about it. let them let them go you know, he's not on message, even him and musk tonight. musk was trying to talk about being aspirational and how this technologies can change the world and trump just drug it right back into the gutter about the dirty politics. and i mean that's, that's the contrast in this election. he cannot be an aspirational candidate. he cannot talk about the future. he's got to bring up all of the criminal crimes and all of the prosecutions. and the last election and even with an opportunity with ilan i must really elevate the conversation. he didn't do it. so let them go out and have

these conspiracy theories. it just makes the case of generational change. joy, joyful candidate, a happy warrior candidate, versus grumpy guy who wants to talk about the past and in a vice presidential candidate who's got all kinds of other issues that's dragging them down. and so even with this great opportunity, he fumbled the opportunity with elon musk and i think that the harris campaign should be very, very happy tonight and they've got a lot of material that they're going to be able to use for the next 90 days. >> we've got more to talk about after the break, stay with us. elon musk, a new forest and the 2024 presidential election. my next guest has new reporting on the billionaires latest political moves inside elon musk's hands on push to win 800,000 voters for trump wall street journal reporter, emily glazer joins me now thanks for being with us during that conversation, there were you and you have some very interesting reporting you write about elon musk launching this big time super pac to help elect donald trump, but less than three months and he fired most of the vendors that they

had hired how is all that going? >> well, there's less than 90 days till this election. and in typical elon musk fashion, if things weren't working for him, he made it, he made a switch and one that a lot of people wouldn't otherwise have made. elon has spending roughly an hour. we'll be meeting with political vendors and they're trying to get roughly 800,000 low propensity voters to, get out the vote in these battleground states that are crucial for donald trump's reelection campaign and he isn't erratic player. >> there's no question about it, but he's brought along other big donors, how big of a factor could that be in this election? >> there are a lot of what we would call big whales that are very vocal and their support. we've got folks from elon's paypal mafia days like david sacks we've got antonio gracias, who's a former tesla board member, current spacex board member to sequoia capital partner, shawn maguire, doug leone can it, harry, i mean, you name it. these are people that have known ilan for a

number of different years and they're also very vocal about their support. we're seeing a slight shift in silicon valley that has now becoming more rightward leaning. it's certainly not everyone, it's still a really liberal place. but there is a noticeable shift when you look at the silicon valley folks and the executives that for being more vocal about their support for donald trump yeah, it's not the silicon valley of generation ago. >> no question about it. and emily, you reported last month that musk had committed around $45 million a month to this super pac. that report did not sit well with him. what is the latest on all that? why why did it not sit well with them? >> we reported that elon musk has told people that he was contributing around $45 million a month in our article today, we reported that in the spring when his consultants asked what kind of budget do we have to work on this or they told him it was roughly $160 million. so elon has said that if the lower amount he also has previously said that he there were no

discussions about being a special adviser and donald trump's presidency, if he's re-elected, and what we saw tonight in the conversation on x is that they talked about that more than once. so i would just say that take what you hear at face value, we stand by our reporting and we feel really confident about it absolutely very good reporting. >> as always, emily glaser. thank you very much for your time. we appreciate it. new polls show the race between trump and kamala harris getting tighter. and the key battleground states in those blue wall states, we've talked about so much does the trump campaign need a big strategy reset? talk about that next relax into a peruvian state of mind is it santos.com or call 100 set goals with generative ai on aws, companies are

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numbers are the numbers and i did the math. >> we did speak 13 hours ago. he's spoken to 10:00 a.m. hour still on monday, we're still in the same day anyway. but you know, you speak about the numbers changing and i just want to take take a look at what's going on in those key great, great lake battleground states, pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan. i want you to look at the trend line for aid to august. take a look here. may when it was biden versus trump, trump was up by three in pennsylvania, one of his constant biden was up by one in michigan, but all tight races, all in all these states, donald trump is doing better than he did four years ago. now, jump ahead to august. what do we see? we see now harris versus trump. look at this games for the democratic nominee harris up by four in all these states her lead, her advantage. she is now doing seven points better than biden was doing in pennsylvania, five points better, and wisconsin, and three points better in michigan. but jumps across the board. but it's it's not just about these top line numbers. it's about what's underneath the hood. this was something that you and i spoke about right? it's the economy stupid as james carville once said,

trust more on economic issues now, this is nationally, but we are seeing a similar trend in the key battleground states. look at this, who do you trust more on economic issues in july, 40, 1% of voters nationwide? i'm wide said trump, compared to 35% said biden. now look how close we are. we're at 42% for harris, 41% for trump. but the consistent thing that we're seeing across all these ports, paul's mr. acosta is the fact that there's a trend away from donald trump and towards the democratic presumptive nominee it's a dramatic turnaround. there's just no question about it. and what about voter enthusiasm for harris now that she's at the top of the ticket, something tells me that is going to be critically important in all of this enthusiasm and doozy asm enthusiasm take a look here. all right, enthusiastic about voting for either biden or harris back in 2023. look at this. it was just 72 2% of biden voters said they were enthusiastic about voting. look at where we are now at 6% of harris supporters say are enthusiastic about voting. that actually leads trump, who only

80% of his voters say they're enthusiastic about voting. that is unchanged from 2023. basically, when trump held the advantage on the enthusiasm question now it's the democrats who hold the advantage on the enthusiasm issue and just one little last thing on temperament. i think this is so important because we've seen donald trump kind of go off the rails in recent days, whether it be saying potentially that kamala harris has crowds were fake, they were ai generated no proof of that whatsoever. that just plays into this, right? and for meant to be present. look at this 55% of likely voters in the key battleground states of michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin say that yes, harris has the right temperament for trump. it's the exact opposite. 54% say no, he does not have the right temperament. you put it all together, jim, you put it all together. this was just a very bad polling day and the past few two days on the poll front for the former president donald trump. but i guess the good news for him is he's still got a little bit around. let's say, 80 or so days, a little less than three months to turn it all around because he'll need it absolutely. in for kamala

harris, if you're going into a convention, these are the exact numbers you want to see because out of that convention, it's possible she will have a bump. most candidates get a bump coming out of the convention that if that pads these leads even more, that is going to be quite something. all right, harry enten, great to see as always, thanks so much. >> my friend weather day or night, it's a pleasure to see you and then both day and night today. thanks. thanks yeah. >> got to love harry. any calls me, mr. acosta, which nobody does. so i appreciate that. sara fischer, marc lotter, tim ryan, they're all back with me. mark, i got to go with you first, you know, you saw those numbers there did you anticipate this you have to say, i know. you take your spinmeister hat off for just a second. there it is. it is quite something that, that occurred here in this race. i don't think a lot of people would have predicted this, that kamala harris would be doing this well right now well, even the president's campaign pollster tony fabrizio, wrote a

memo about this shortly after she was basically installed as the candidate and said that she was going to get a honeymoon. >> she was probably going to get a bump and she was probably likely going to take a small lead in those days leading up to labor day. but as more and more people, especially he knows battleground states realized her radical policies. this thing will go back to where it was because look, kamala harris is not going to do anything to secure the border. she's not going to lower prices. she's not going to deal with gas and energy prices. those are all problems of her own creation and while that new york times sienna poll has many, many flaws in it and oversampled democrats a lot. you go to something where it averages a bunch of polls like the real clear politics average. donald trump is still winning. he's still winning in pennsylvania. he's still winning in georgia. and kamala harris is performing seven points below where joe biden and hillary clinton were performing during their cycles in 2016 and 20 they 20. >> all right i thought maybe you were going to give us maybe a slightly different response there, but you did quite well

spreading it it's putting us in circles there. >> mark tim, let me go to you congressman vice president harris. she is set to release her economic agenda this week. you're there in the heartland, you're in ohio we talked. to voters like this all the time. at some point, i don't want i don't want to see what there's something to this honeymoon thing. i mean i think what has happened over the last several weeks has been remarkable to have a new candidate come in and do this well in the polling, i think that is, that is quite extraordinary. but at the same time voters are going to want to see some details. i got to want to see your economic plans are going to want to see other plans how important is that at this point well, i think more than anything they wanted generational change. >> that's what everybody talked about when it was biden versus trump. they wanted something new. they wanted a new vision they wanted aspiration, they wanted that excitement. they want a joy, enter kamala harris, she gave that to

everybody. and you see it on social media. the crowds are unbelievable. the buzz around her is incredible, even in republican areas where women are starting to move with to her. so that's, that's going to drive i think the election but elections are always about economics. and she has a strong economic agenda to run on. of course, costs aren't where we want them to be. there's more work to be done, but you cannot argue with the fact that the biden-harris administration is re-industrialize the united states for the first time in 40 or 50 years chip manufacturers, electric vehicle manufacturers. now that donald trump's onboard to, that's nice battery manufacturers and natural gas power plants. there's so much going on as an intel in ohio is going to do almost $100 billion. and we're finally reshoring chip manufacturing. this is all happening because of the inflation reduction act. we've got a huge infrastructure bill that money hasn't even hit the ground yet to rebuild the country and honestly do the

kind of things elon musk was talking about high-speed rail how do we build things here again, with chips for the next generation? how do we use technology? broadband, starlink, whatever it may be they have a long record of this. not only is she going to win on the generational piece, she's going to win on the joy peace against the grumpy old guy. she also has a real industrial play in the heartland work. trump's talking about how great it is to fire people. >> she's got all of the fundamentals moving forward are very, very strong for her yeah, and i have to wonder, you know, donald trump warming up to the idea of electric cars that elon musk's agenda and so on. how that's going to play with the oil and gas industry. i mean, it's been reported in recent weeks that he has gone to the oil and gas industry and said, if you send a lot of money to my campaign i'll do good things for you and that was part of the reason why was railing against electric cars out on the campaign trail? >> it's yeah. >> go ahead. it's the same

it's the same conversation of how are we going to how great it was you cut jobs? oh, i've got to be with ilan now he's for me and he's given me tens of millions of dollars, almost $100 million. >> so i'm going to be for him, it's like it's it's right in the wide-open there they want to cut jobs. he's going to go to the highest bidder guess what? the average auto worker in michigan, the steel worker in western pa, they're not going to be the highest bidder. so they're going to get screwed in the process and here comes to prosecutor. what the populist bent saying, i will i will be there to fight for you and for your economic justice and the details that she they're going to be hugely important and sara you know, kamala harris has come under some criticism mainly from the press that she's not doing enough substantive interviews that she isn't doing press conferences campaign says she's going to do an interview, i believe by the end of this month, that doesn't sound like that's going to happen before the convention at some point, she is going to have to fill in some of these

gaps. i mean i mean, her defenders will say this a campaign like no other she's had to jump into this almost like an a prime ministers campaign type of schedule with 90 days to go and so on. she's a fresh new candidate. but those details are gonna be important. and people are gonna be claiming from that clamoring is just going to get louder. >> yes. so the point that you saw what that represents to me is that the electorate is looking at biden's economic record. they were happy with it and they look at kamala harris is bringing something new. the problem is jim that goodwill is not going to last all the way through to election day, november. >> she's going to have to come out and explain how our economic policies will be different if she wants to continue to sustain that advantage in the polls. the other problem with her not being visible enough is she risks being attacked constantly by donald trump with having no substantial rebound other than what she's putting us in terms of social media memes, that's not really effective. if you're trying to reach an entire electorate. yes, there are 160 million americans that use

tiktok monthly, but the vast majority of older americans are not getting their news on tiktok. they're not getting it through memes. they're getting it still from traditional television interviews, newspaper interviews, et cetera. >> yeah. mark, are you worried about how this truncated campaign? >> i help kamala harris? i mean, there just can be fewer opportunities for problems to crop up fewer press conferences, fewer interviews. this has been a much longer campaign for donald trump than it has been for calm layers. >> well, we're not really that far behind schedule because normally in a challenger incumbent kind of a way and in this case they're both kind of like challenger candidates. you're not usually decided until the conventions and that's when that's when you're fighting amongst your own family intraparty. now, once you get to the convention, you move on and you start to finding your candidate. so it's not that much different. the only difference is is that the campaign she ran in 2019, the policies about anti fracking defund the police, and

all of the nonsense that she said that she then supported. she's now flip-flopping on and saying she doesn't support. so basically the voters are going to have to figure out if there's no question harris issue. but this is not the campaign that donald trump wanted to run they wanted, they wanted to run against joe biden. this is not that campaign. >> well, we're still running again. we're still running against the biden-harris immigration problem, the inflation problems, their war on american energy, the wars that are raging around the world. she boasts about being the last person so then the oval office with the president. now, she's going to own all the problems that they created together. >> all right. marc, tim, sara guys, thank you very much, really appreciate all the time tonight. thanks. thanks so much big new development in the apparent hack of the trump campaign, which it blames on iran to light, we're learning trump ally roger stone's even now it was compromised that reporting next the democratic national convention, next monday at seven on cnn and streaming none backs you were

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absolutely. >> jim and it will. i think what we're seeing is just this cycles evolution of what's been a persistent effort by foreign adversaries to metal in us elections. and we saw it notoriously in 2016 with the russians really set the the bar very high. we saw in 2020 that the chinese entered the fray with some efforts that the intelligence community told us about at that time. and also we saw a very small amount of activity from iran. and now iran is really emerged to the forefront. they've kind of capitalize on their experience in 2020 and they've elevated their game a little bit it's a slightly more sophisticated approach going through the senior advisor who we now know may in fact has been roger stone to use those, those hacked accounts to mount their spear phishing attack on the campaign from the washington post, andrew has a detail from the trauma campaign that after initially claiming they had been hacked, the team did not alert the fbi. how dangerous is

it to keep law enforcement out of the loop here? >> it's not a great idea. it's not typically the quickest and most effective way to mitigate the security. security issues that you have on your hands and also to understand where this threat is coming from and how it might be undermining this the safety and security of the election you would think that the participants, the candidates in this election would have a pretty strong stake in maintaining election security and putting our intelligence and law enforcement community in the best position possible to counter those threats. that is, of course, the way you do that is by sharing this information with them. so it's a bit of a head scratcher, but in the overall picture of everything that's going on between donald trump and the fbi over these many years, i guess it's probably not that surprising well, i mean, it was a touchy area. i mean, this story obviously reminds us of what happened in 2016, and i'll tell you andrew, i question

trump about what the russians were up to and 2016, here's part of what he said back then at that press conference you say, let's get tough one, i can tell russia if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press yeah, erin andrew, and as you and i both know after that happened, the russians around that time, the russians did hacked into the dnc that information did get out via wikileaks. trump was praising wikileaks out on the campaign trail and the intelligence community later concluded that the russians did try to help the trump campaign. i mean, this kind of open the door to a lot of what we're seeing now absolutely. >> did jim we know that the russians took actually mounted specific attacks in the hours

after trump made that statement. so if there's ever any doubt that there were listening very closely to what he was saying. all doubt was erased in that moment that's got to be and i hope it is a very hard clip for him to look at today because i'm sure things feel very different now that he is the subject of the attacks from a foreign adversary that clearly has no good feeling for donald trump right here. the guy who got rid of the nuclear deal, the guy who re-impose the sanctions and the guy who was on the stick as it were when the u.s. government took out general soleimani so yeah, this is how it works. there's no friends in this sphere, intelligence agencies around the globe are constantly trying to gain access and have influence on from what happens here in the united states. and it looks like mr. trump is the target these days yeah, we're gonna have to keep our eyes on this because we still have a little less than three months to go. >> plenty of opportunities. i think are everywhere for this sort of thing that happen again, andrew mccabe. thank you

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going to a certain location together and there was an emergency landing. this was not a pleasant landing and willie was he was a little concerned but two people on board that chopper say trump's for getting a key detail. >> brown was never there instead, los angeles councilman, nate holden says he was on the chopper with trump as they discussed a failed bid to revitalize l.a.'s iconic ambassador hotel former trump organization official barbara rez confirms holden's account and it lines up with what willie brown himself told our john berman last week have you ever been in a helicopter that made an emergency landing with donald trump no have you ever been in a helicopter with donald trump? >> no. >> you have no memory of anything like that ever happening know there you go. and with me now, former la

councilman, nate holden and barbara rez, former trump organization executive vice president and author of tower of lies. what my 18 years of working with donald trump reveals about him. and nate. it's in barbara great to have you both on really appreciate it nate, let me start with you. tell us what happened on board this helicopter ride around 1990. you were there was there was you know, i don't look like willie brown. >> i'm not willing brian. i'm nate holden and other name kind of a coffee with bobber and don't the dnipro recall it being down then as much from the night's impaired and in flight donald trump was saying, that skyline, oh my god, it's more beautiful skyline in the world. and i'm pot fine. he kept talking and talking and talking and shortly after we're in flight, the pilot tries

before that is that i got to pilots i had to engage one dies. the other will say, well, i lied in the policy. it's shut up. she and william back at him. quiet, quiet? >> and don kept talking. >> he says quiet system just fail. and i'm joined inland is a copy of manually we had an emergency landing and then the new jersey. right near where i grew up and i knew the area and that's what happened on that flight when the flight he was your what is no very upset as a raising a lot of noise that the mechanics who maintain those helicopter i asked by meantime to failure qualification helicopter. and given the fact that one had crashed about six

months earlier, killing three of his top executive should have been demanding that they do reliability german meantime to failure, give those flights, those helicopters in flight wow. >> and barbara, you were there correct? >> you this as well this sounds fair what was your recollection how to trump react and you can confirm neighbors they're not willie brown, correct yeah absolutely. >> was made. we brought nato from california to meet donald trump tower to talk about this ambassador project. and when we got there, they say, oh, we're them enough time. he's going should he come out meeting on the helicopter. so we said i'll try and sound meets the river,

the air cohen says such and such. and that's what causes turbulence and i'm going the scientists now meanwhile, i'm seeing the koch pile is pumping the hell is some instruments he's got them on the floor. and i knew something was wrong, but, then it really started shaking and he was very calm about it. he said, okay, we've lost a few inches. instruments. we're going to have to land emerged too soon land i think he said we were landing at td about and it was shaking. everybody was scared trump was terrified, absolutely terrified and i know that from me. >> that's the point. go on the outside elevator on trump tower, as i want with them he's not good with this. >> anywhere. we'll ended in well, i don't remember him yelling at anybody the one

thing i remember as he made a big show he turned tonight and he said, no you're turned white it was drunk. who turned white name with glad as you yeah. and then you would think that trump would remember the details of such a dramatic event and not confused you with willie brown. >> why do you think he was confused? >> if you work in views which i'm not sure it was giving misleading information and take them away. what if he were confused when iran is i served with him for years in the legislature, he was in the assembly house and state senate will never confuse. they've never miss identification of the two of us during that time period. and there will be brand loge short intelligence, sharp guy, turning from san francisco area taller guy from los

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