that's where they are now. i mean, i watched every minute of that republican national convention and they have absolutely convinced themselves saying, you know, first they you know, they tried to impeach him and then they tried to indict him and then they convicted him and then they tried to assassinate. there's just this continuum of anything bad that happens to donald trump is somebody else's fault, is nefarious and is more reason to support him. that's where his base is coming from. that is him sort of getting one more round of contributions from these folks anything bad that happens to him? definitely not his fault. a reason for his followers to click on something send them another 24 box. >> it's always a day yes ill-defined today. and the answer is always, they know who they are. errol louis, elie honig, great to have you both here. thank you so much. a quick note before we go, you can see me on tv again later tonight. if you didn't get enough during the source here i was on the late show with stephen colbert alright, has been on, hey, this for the last

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newsroom with rosemarie church appreciate you joining us and we begin here in the united states as former president donald trump and tesla ceo elon musk, hosted a friendly conversation for more than two hours on monday, those folks live on musk's social media platform x covering a broad range of topics, including being energy policy, climate change, and immigration with trump promising the largest deportation in the history of the country he also recounted the assassination attempt who survived last month and he lashed out at vice president kamala harris, calling her names and slamming house's stance on the economy and immigrants camila was the borders are now she's denying it everything that i do think he was strong on the border. we're going to be strong. well, here's didn't have to say she could close it up right now. they could they could do things right now. it's horrible

no tax on tips and all of a sudden she is making a species and there will be no tax on tips. i said that months ago and all of a sudden, for politics, she says, she comes out with what i said which i think is terrible. and i think it's also hitting them very hard these people are fake at several points in the interview, it sounded as if trump was slurring his words. the events started more than 40 minutes late due to technical problems, musk said they were caused by an attack that overwhelmed the company's servers. trump and his team have been struggling to cope with a soaring think momentum of vice president kamala harris with recent polling showing the democratic presidential nominee leading by four points in three key states, michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin cnn's kristen holmes has more on trump's attempt to improve his poll numbers by attacking harris as momentum around kamala harris continues to build donald trump promoting

far-right conspiracy theories around his democratic challenger falsely claiming on social media that the crowd size and harris detroit rally was ai generated writing quote, this is the way democrats win elections by cheating. >> and they're even worse at the ballot box. adding that anyone who is willing to fake their crowd size quote, will cheat at anything recent polling showing harris improving on president joe biden standing in several battlegrounds with a close race in the critical states of michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin. trump's allies imploring the former president to focus on policy, not personal attacks. >> you've got to make this race not on personalities. stop questioning the size of her crowds and start questioning her position when it comes to what she do as attorney general on crime. >> and i will never ever let you down. >> trump trying to get back on message, releasing a series of videos on x including one

painting harris as a quote, san francisco radical. the former president also expected to hit the campaign trail wednesday with what's being billed as an economy focus speech in the crucial state of north carolina. harris has promised to put out details about her economic policies this week as republicans hammer away at the lack of details around her policy plans over the weekend, republican vp nominee j.d. vance, taking on the role of attack dog sitting for interviews as trump campaign aims to highlight harris his decision so far not to take a lot of questions from the press. >> i think that what it is is two people, kamala harris and tim walz who aren't comfortable in their own skin because they're uncomfortable with their policy positions for the american people. and so they're name-calling instead of actually telling the american people how they're going to make if their lives better. i think that's weird, dana, but look, they can call me whatever they want to. >> now, kamala harris is also expected to be back on the campaign trail on thursday with president joe biden. it's going to be their first joint campaign appearance since joe

biden dropped out of the race. now it's going to be interesting to watch how kamala harris navigates this. because on one hand, she of course course, it's going to want to stand next to the man who essentially put her at the top of the ticket, who made her vice president. but yet at the same time, she has already tried to distance herself from some of his more unpopular policy decisions particularly around immigration or inflation and crime. we also know republicans are seeking to tie her to joe biden in a negative way. so she's really going to have to walk this fine line as she figures out how she's going to campaign with joe biden in this now very tight race. >> kristen holmes, cnn, washington cnn political analyst, julian zelizer, is a historian and professor at princeton university, joins me now now from new york, welcome thanks for having me so let's start with donald trump's social media disaster monday night, his official return to x was meant to be a live chat with the platform's owner, elon musk.

>> but instead, technical problems delayed the start. musk blamed it on a malicious attempt to shut down his platform, even though the rest of x was working perfectly while trump's people said he broke the internet. so it appears even before they got started, we were getting subjected to disinformation and misinformation just as the european union had warned would happen. so what were your thoughts on trump trying to use x to get his message out and then essentially, what he said well, some of it appeared like a candidate who is really struggling to get attention to be honest. >> and the platform is not a primary platform for the former president. and then the delays and the problems all added to the sense this was almost a second rate operation. so i'm sure he's not happy with it. and then in terms of the conversation, a lot of it was very familiar going back to some of the former president's

favorite lines of attack and honing in on issues like immigration and inflation and then just moving from one sort of insult to the other. so that part was just very familiar. and musk sometimes tried to guide him to different kinds of conclusions from, but has been responding to new polls showing kamala harris ahead in key battleground states by making message the ad purchases as he struggles to define her. and look at ways to fight back. how worried do you think is trump that harris will beat him in aging for days and how possible is that outcome? >> well i think he is worried he sees the same numbers there now consistent and different kinds of polls. and his register which involves crowd sizes at events. it includes how much media attention he can get all of that is not going his way and he sees it. so i'm sure he's worried and you can hear here in an interview like

this, he hasn't quite figured out what he wants to say. he always had great clarity with opponents including hillary clinton and president biden. he doesn't have that with harris and this is coming late because of the nature of the campaign. and so i think he is concerned and i think obviously it's a neck getting neck race. so that means either candidate can win right now and as trump continues to falsely claim that large crowds said camila houses, michigan rally or ai generated republican kevin mccarthy went public with calls for trump to stop questioning the size of harris's crowds and stop questioning her positions on issues like crime and immigration. >> so why isn't trump doing that instead of going down these rabbit holes it's not in his nature. >> i think that's what you learn when you watch him over time, he wants to come back to the issues that matter to him. and he understands inflation and immigration are good political issues, but he also

really cares about proving that he has bigger crowds than his opponents. and i don't think he can resist and i don't think anyone can talk them out of it. and i don't anticipate any cessation of this line of attack and disinformation in the coming months of course meantime, kamala harris is focusing on the issue she's in washington, dc, working on her economic pitch to voters and preparing for the democratic national convention. >> next week, what does she need to do to continue her? and tom and respond to criticisms from the gop that she hasn't answered questions from the media yet well, i think she will answer questions from the media and that is not necessary in her mind right now, she's getting this massive campaign going, but i do think she needs to craft an answer on the economy polls that show her ahead, also show voters are not happy with the democrats on inflation, as well as immigration.

>> and i think this is a chance not only to showcase herself and governor walz, but also to offer an answer that's more than everything's okay. but this is my vision forward this is how all address the concerns that the country has and to start gaining more trust on economic issues that would be very damaging if she can do that and keep the momentum democrats would be in a good position going into september. >> julian zelizer. thank you so much for joining us, push at it. >> thank you he israel says its military is on high alert as the country prepares for a potential attack from iran. >> both iran and its most powerful proxy, hezbollah, has been vowing to retaliate after the recent assassinations of two top hezbollah and hamas leaders and there are fears and iranian attack could risk disrupting gaza ceasefire talks scheduled for this week. amid

the escalating tensions, the u.s. is strengthening its military forces in the middle east with a guided missile submarine and carrier strike group expected in the region soon, the u.s. has also released previously approved funds of 3.5 billion to israel to spend on weapons and military equipment. the israeli military says, it's taking the threat seriously and is at the highest level of readiness cnn's paula hancocks is following developments for us. she joins lie us live from london right now so paula, how uses rob preparing for this potential attack from iran? >> we'll resume as you said, the israeli military is at its highest level of readiness at this point, saying that it's both in a defensive posture and also offensive. they have increased the airflights over lebanon on the northern border. we also know at this point

though that they have canceled some of the vacation flights for its permanent personnel. so they're making sure that everybody is in place should there be a need after any iranian retaliation, there hasn't been a change in stature when it comes to the civilian population. there hasn't been any additional records commendations when it comes to that, we did hear though from the white house on monday saying that they share israel's concern, they share their expectations that there will be some kind of response from tehran, potentially from its proxies as well following the assassination of ismail haniyeh, the hamas political leader on a rainy and soil. we have heard from numerous iranian officials saying that it is their right to respond, that there was a violation of their sovereignty. we did hear from the biden administration as well about concerns that this could have some kind of an

impact on upcoming talks, potentially on thursday, at least that's the latest information we have at this point to try and secure a ceasefire and hostage deal. but the biden administration say that they have secured what they believe is a more defensive posture to try and support israel president is confident that we have the capability available to us to help defend israel should it come to that? nobody wants to see it come to that which is why we continue to have these diplomatic conversations in earnest over the last few days to see what can be done to de-escalate the situation. the state department deputy spokesperson says that they do expect these talks to go ahead on thursday. we know that the us and the mediators, qatar and egypt, are trying to put together a final bridging proposal for hamas and israel.

we have heard from hamas, though over the weekend they issued a statement saying that they still agree with that original july decision and proposal that the u.s. president was very vocally supportive of. and also the un security council and they don't believe that there needs to be any changes to that. at one point that was raising concerns that maybe they wouldn't send a representative on thursday, but one source familiar with these discussions believed that they will be present. we know israel as well, will be present. the prime minister's office saying they will send a delegation will have to wait and see if anything moves forward beyond this indeed, our thanks to paula hancocks bringing us that live report from london joining me now from cairo is ha hellyer a middle east studies scholar at the carnegie endowment for international peace, and a senior associate fellow for security studies at the royal united services institute. >> thank you for joining us

good morning so israel is still bracing for a potential retaliatory attack from iran nearly two weeks after the assassination of hamas leader is ismail haniyeh and the killing of the hezbollah commander in beirut. >> now, we don't know when or where the he's strikes will take place. so what's the calibration for iran as it prepares to retaliate while at the same time trying to avoid triggering a wider conflict in the region thank you for having me on your show. so i think you summed it up quite well. iran needs to attack a retaliate in order to continue in the same sorts of quote-unquote deterrence mode that it thinks it's getting into. so i think we have to expect that there will be some sort of reprisal retaliate the but of course, all of this is very, how should i say theoretical when you tried to calibrate an escalation, you're assuming that you have control over all the variables. of course you

don't and any strike from iran or any strike from israel or any strike from any of these actors in the region over the past ten months? has the potential to spin out of control. and i think we're at that point, again, at the present moment in time. it's why the continued escalation by the israelis over the past ten months has been so concerning even during these negotiations assassinating the lead negotiator jason on the other side, is ismail haniyeh attacking the school. that your reporter mentioned, which killed at least 100 palestinians, including many children and injuring 200 others none of this makes for a terribly good environment for de-escalation and for the success of ceasefire negotiations, even even though the notion of a ceasefire, where one side promises that they will return towards soon as they get their hostages back is still quite dubious.

>> and how likely is it do you think that this will be a coordinated attack between iran and hezbollah and perhaps even involving all the proxies and how extensive do you expect these retaliatory strikes to be i just want to be clear. >> these these other groups in the region has been law, the houthis, iraqi militias. i don't want to describe them all as quote-unquote proxies because it implies that they don't have agency of their own and there's simply a part of iran's command and control. of course they are allied to iran on particular issues. and in some cases, extremely strong with his butler, for example, is much closely related to iran. than, for example, the houthis so they will respond, i think in constant dirt in the same way that france and germany or the uk and so on might engage in one particular action together. but i do think that we have to keep in mind, they all have slightly

different interests involved here has been butler is literally on the border with the israelis and it's going to be considering that very strongly, the houthis are not, the houthis have very, very far away. the rockies are very, very far away. the iranians are also very far away. so i think that there are these quite, quite different calibrations that are going to take place they all go into jump in. i don't know. i don't know if that will be considered to be necessary. are they all going to look at israeli targets within israel? are they going to be looking at targets that are related to the israelis outside of israel. again, unclear. and we don't know that what we do know is that the iranians send a pretty clear signal at the un where they prioritize this ceasefire negotiations and what we've seen over the last ten months is that all negotiations that have taken place there constantly sabotaged the sabotage as israeli press and

israeli officials have stated, very often is related to how next and yeah, who himself is engaging in those negotiations. and that's happened again on this particular occasion with the assassination, with the attack on the school, but also the raising of new demands within the negotiation. that doesn't, don't follow the conoco biden plan of last month. that everyone seemed to agree to have agreed to so if we, if we want this to come down as it were, i think we really have to look at the key that unlocks all of this, and that's a ceasefire in gaza, right? >> and where we will be watching to see what happens on thursday. of course, ha hellyer. thank you so much for joining us and sharing your expected on this issue, pushing it thank you an earthquake in los angeles left people in rattled throughout the county coming up. why experts say the shallow quake could be felt by so many communities? plus smoke from an out-of-control wildfire

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in california were left shaken after a 4.4 magnitude earthquake hit los angeles on monday. the quake was not very deep, but was felt widely as it was directly under the populated areas of los angeles earthquakes of this magnitude generally only bring light shaking and fire officials say there were no reports of injuries or structural damage in the past few weeks, there have been two other earthquakes in the area of similar magnitude several caribbean islands are under warnings and watches for tropical storm ernesto. it's moving toward the leeward islands with top sustained winds around 65 kilometers per hour. but it'll likely get stronger in the days ahead. the lee woods and sdo is forecast to impact the virgin islands and puerto rico by late

tuesday hundreds of firefighters are working to keep an extremely dangerous wildfire from getting any closer to the greek capital and now they say the situation is improving the fire started sunday near a town north of athens. and how spread rapidly officials have ordered residents in dozens of areas to evacuate as homes and buildings burn, they have their work cut out for them as strong winds and drought conditions drive the flames toward the capital greece isn't the only country suffering and sweltering heat. nearly two dozen countries are under heat alerts right now as temperatures soar across europe and cnn's nada bashir has more the scorching orange blaze illuminating the night sky over greece's attica region, just north of athens hundreds of firefighters and volunteers desperately working to battle a devastating wildfire which

broke out on sunday as dawn breaks, the air is filled with thick smoke the damage already evident with some homes in this community now destroyed. >> residents, left powerless in the face of disaster but i've lived this really need this situation is very difficult we still have strong fires from midnight onwards, some houses started to burn. we are trying to protect our local restaurant where the firefighters are doing very well as the fire edges closer to the capital, athens authorities have urged some residents to evacuate more than a dozen people in the area are said to have already been treated for respiratory problems, are burns, at least three hospitals are now on heightened alert with two in the region already evacuated but as the blaze continues to intensify, officials warned extreme weather conditions could continue throughout the week the situation is chaotic

or military unit has been here from the beginning. >> we're trying to help the fire unit and volunteer teams. you can see we're surrounded by fire here. the night will be very hard officials in greece have now called for air and ground assistance from the european union with france, italy, and the czech republic. >> among those, sending emergency personnel or commitment, greece has already faced dozens of fires so far this summer the country recording its hottest june and july on record this year. but experts warn that weather conditions are only growing more dangerous with wildfires set to become more frequent and potentially more deadly in the coming years neither bashir, cnn, london so let's go to eleni giokos. she joins us now near athens from near athens, there in greece. so eleni, we are hearing that firefighters have been able to contain some of this wildfire. what more are you learning?

>> yeah. so this morning, as of this morning, rosemary, we know that the last front has been put out and right now, the fire department tells us that they are currently monitoring for any danger zones where i am right now has been daily. >> it's one of the hardest hit areas in south eastern attica. and you can see behind me the devastation asian at this particular business. this was a woods storage factory for people that would buy word over the winter season, completely razed to the ground and you can actually see fire truck there as well periodically putting out flames that are of course, at risk of spreading even further, we took a drive around we saw around 40 to 50 homes that have been impacted. the official number in terms of how much destruction has been, has not been announced yet. what we do know is one woman lost her life. there have been numerous reports of animals being impacted, killed, as well as livestock in this area. just to give you a perspective of how closest to the athens city

center where around 11 miles away rosemary and that's what makes us fire very different. it started around noon on sunday, around 40 kilometers outside of athens, speed rapidly around 47 knots of gale force winds over the last few days. as you can see, we don't have wind today, which so of course is a huge blessing for those fighting the blazers because it does pick up where you're seeing sort of heat areas. you could actually start to see it's spreading even further. and that's why we seem to so much monitoring today in the hope is that it is finally contained rosemary yeah, absolutely. that is the hope. it's good to see some progress there. eleni giokos joining us from just outside athens in greece. appreciate that report a bold incursion catches the kremlin of god. we will look at the impact on the fallout from ukraine's military offensive inside russia. i can just a moment. >> i'm thinking, i'm going to

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fbi search of mar-a-lago for classified documents. trump alleges the search was inappropriate and hurt his reputation, even though it was approved by a federal judge. the justice department tried for months to get trump and his lawyers to voluntarily turn over hundreds of classified documents that he kept after leaving the white house. district judge, aileen cannon and in dismissed the criminal case against trump last month vladimir putin is vowing a strong response after accusing ukraine of trying to destabilize his country and instill fear, during its week long incursion into southwest russia. the ukrainian military chiefs said his country's troops now control about 1,000 square kilometers in kursk where tens of thousands of russians have already been evacuated. none of this going over well with the russian

president who lashed out at the western accused ukraine of trying to improve its negotiating being position. meanwhile, the kremlin released this footage of tanks and other reinforcements that it says are headed to kursk. ukraine's president says, russia brought war to others. and now it's coming home. >> the lord. >> of me as a lenski also arguing that the incursion is actually self-defense and cnn's clare sebastian is following all of this live from london. she joins us now. good morning to you, clare. what is the latest on ukraine's incursion into russian? of course, the response from prison jerez putin is having to tread a pretty fine line here on the one hand, appearing in control of the situation while also wanting to downplay it. >> given that it is, of course humiliating for russia to fail to defend its border in this way and not wanting to threaten public support for this war. for which of course so crucial to the kremlin being able to continue to prosecute it. so

we've got this meeting. you can see it there as choreograph meeting with his top officials and the regional heads. you can see here as the head of the kursk region that have been most effective by this. and he did some of his usual strategy of trying to discredit ukraine and he said they were doing this at the behest of their western masters. this clearly not true because we know certainly from the u.s. that they did not get a heads up from ukraine about this operation on russian soil. and he claimed that this was ukraine trying to improve its negotiating positions, which in putin's view, will not work. take a listen i think it's been ago, a lab sheer mosley at what kind of negotiations can we even talk about with people who indiscriminately targets civilians, civilian infrastructure, or try to threaten nuclear power facilities what can we even talk about with them so this is a well-worn strategy or receive taking the accusations that

russia faces of indiscriminately targeting civilians. and of course, this week accused by ukraine of starting a fire. at the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant. we don't yet know officially the court because of that fire, but he's not wrong in principle, perhaps about this being a way that ukraine sees this as a way to potentially bring the war into negotiations. president zelenskyy saying on monday that bringing the war onto russian soil could be a way, a useful ways that are forcing russia into to peace. obviously, the two sides still very far apart on that issue, and russkoe pause continues to attack ukrainian civilians, but it is a problem for putin. he has to play it down. as i said, there are serious questions, of course as to the failings that led up to this and why a week in it is still on boeing and ukraine, it says occupying some thousand kilometers of russian territory thanks to clare sebastian bringing us that live report from london i think

what's, happened here is mr. putin has rebuilt himself as the master of the bluff my friend and colleague that lambda counsel, john herbst, he's a former ambassador to the to ukraine, has frequently described mr. putin is a con man using his ability or his potential capability to use tactical nuclear weapons to scare the west into forcing ukraine not to escalate further so another big, big red line has crossed with very little response from mr. putin. >> i think it's very, very difficult for him to respond because russia has deployed so many resources to the ukrainian front line and also, we have to remember remember that years and years of corruption within the russian defense ministry has basically hollowed it out. hence, the firing of officials, the replacement of the minister not long ago. they're not in very good shape to handle this. >> now, you mentioned ukraine strengthening its hand. so if ukraine is able to hold this territory, does it play? and to

negotiate an exchange for ukrainian land occupied by russia and for prisoners of war, as you mentioned yeah, i'm pretty sure that's the strategies are right now to strengthen their hand and bring russia to the negotiating table as quickly as possible. >> because there are two things happening in the background. one is the u.s. selection. >> aware of trump administration could still get in and then growing weariness domestically in ukraine for this war to end up. >> i mean, you know, very well, i've been based in odessa for so long and i see day by day by day that deterioration of the economy and that sort of thing. so it's very, very important to bring this to end. and then finally, as those us politicians you had on indicated there is strong bipartisan support for ukraine ukraine is showing also that it can fight back and it can operate various strategically gaining results. >> of course well, so even if ukraine ends up retreating, we don't know if that'll be the

case, but even if it does has won the psychological war with this incursion by humiliating president putin and making the rush of people feel particularly vulnerable oh, absolutely. you know, it's interesting to watch the reaction of russians is that you don't see any active resistance or fighting ukrainian troops are blowing things up its passivity that, that is happening, which is very interesting but, you know, i think also at the back of people's minds, whether it's in the white house or on the ground in ukraine. is that putin can act very irrationally if he's backed into a corner and the fear there is that he still does have the zaporizhia nuclear power plant under russian control. >> there could be a stage mistake, so to speak, at that plant. and that that could have devastating consequences. so everyone has to keep that in mind as well. >> and how a russians dealing

with the news that ukraine is moving inside the country? >> well, that would be nice to know because there's such a clamp down on russian social media. and the press and even military bloggers. now, it's difficult to come by. but watching the footage again we see the russians are very upset because they don't have the resources necessary to move. they don't have faster evacuations. it's also exposing weaknesses in the russian emergency services that was global affairs analyst michael baasankhuu, who is a senior fellow at the atlantic council, and a former spokesperson for the organization for security and cooperation in europe, joining me last hour. coming up, what some suburban pennsylvania republicans are saying about camila houses chances of potentially winning the state comedy is coming to cnn what

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>> every vote counts though enthusiastic or not, big margins in the suburbs it's around philadelphia are critical for democrats. box is more blue collar and of late, the most competitive of the collar counties, if i were here the day after the debate and i asked you, you think biden could win pennsylvania, you would have said, no way. there would have been no way you think kara's can win pennsylvania? >> i think she can. i think she can. i think the energy she's brought to the campaign, the fact that she's a woman and women's rights are going to be a big deal here in pennsylvania. and i think that's kind of where pennsylvania we'll go berks county is more rural and more trumpy just outside the suburban collar, but margins matter everywhere in the battlegrounds. >> joan london is an attorney for local governments, blinn farms zoning permit status. we had a meeting this morning, very productive meeting. >> london cast her primary vote for for haley, then switched her registration to independent she worries about trump's course tone and what she sees as angry populism. a new worry

since our last visit in may, trump running mate j.d vance, no cats, but married and childless. now, even more proud, she left the gop. >> i've led a very full life that way and to say, i don't have a stake in the future of the country. i had i had some difficulty with that and all i could think of, senator vance, are you going to tell and colder or condoleezza rice or elizabeth dole, they are miserable cat ladies i don't, i don't think so london plans to write in a conservative, but she leaves the harris window open just a crack. if donald trump or j.d. vance really says something. so outrageously offensive that could drive me to vote for vice president harris, but it's highly unlikely she just doesn't she doesn't represent my values, my beliefs about policy media is in delaware county. >> cynthia sabatini knows a lot about the change here my street was rock-ribbed republican. now, you have to shake a stick

to find the republican cheney has also never trump and i watch his campaign rallies. it's all about him it's not about the country. >> this is now the third campaign in which these never trump voters hold significant sway. in 2016, sabatini wrote in a republican senator trump narrowly won pennsylvania in 2020. >> she voted for biden. >> was that hard? >> no, because i didn't want to see trump elected after the chaos of the prior four years, sabatini said she has read things that worry her about harris, about immigration policy and about being tough on her staff probably another right in this november. but the 2016 result, still stings. >> i'm trying to keep an open mind about harris. if the rap on her, as i read is correct, bella cynwyd is in montgomery county. >> it was very republican when i was growing up. and as democrat now, carol carty is an attorney, a registered should republican. she's angry that

trump constantly attacks courts and judges and election results. >> i'm now turning on 80s songs to go back to the 80s in my lifetime, the republican party has changed with donald trump, clinton 2016, biden 2020, a never trumper. she thought. >> but inflation and immigration soured hur on biden and then she watched the june debate when biden was on the ticket, i was going to vote for trump. >> but now it's it's a harder call. just because i am not a fan of donald trump nor now of senator vance, not a cat lady. >> i was a childless dog lady because i didn't i didn't meet the right person to tell us over 40-years-old. so i could very well be one of those childless women and i found the comment insensitive and narrow-minded. >> this is near carty summer home on maryland's eastern shore she says the conversations back home, among her philly suburban mom friends, our crystal clear. >> definitely i have more friends saying that they're

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