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prices, you every day curry, they'll be gone in a flash designer sales at up to 70% or so of guilt gilt.com today tonight on 360 after days of urging the former president tries to trade policy for personal attacks, how he did on stage and how he's doing and new polling from one key battleground state. >> also breaking news, new reporting and robert f kennedy jr. the outreach he made the harris campaign. and what he wanted in exchange for endorsing her. and later, my conversation with senator bernie sanders with the former democrat presidential candidate has to say about the campaign and the current candidate it should be running. good evening, thanks for joining us. we begin tonight with the former president's speech on economics today in north carolina. it came after days republicans all but begging him to drop the personal attacks on vice president harris and stick to policy. today. he did, but only to the extent that he, donald trump could he spoke about inflation insurance prices, credit card debt, and said that if he's elected incomes would soar, savings would grow and homes would become affordable. again, there

weren't many specifics which in fairness can be said for many things. can they say? but to the degree there was policy talk a lot of it drifted quickly to trash talk does anyone here feel richer under kamala harris then crooked joe than you were during the trump administration, is anything less expensive under kamala harris and crooked joe will barring the name-calling, it's reasonable question for any candidate in any race to ask, are you better off now than you were four years ago? >> just as it's reasonable to cast doubt on your opponents upcoming policy speech in this case, harris is on friday, except the former president did not leave it there think about that when camila lays out her fake economic plan this week, probably will be a copy of my plan because said basically that's what she does for nearly four years. >> camila has grabbed as the american economy has burned. what happened to her laugh, i haven't heard that laugh at about a week. that's why they keep her off. say that's why

she's disappeared. that's a laugh of a crazy person. i will tell you you haven't the crazy that's a laugh of a person with some big problems well, new polling out today from quinnipiac shows that the vice president is leading 48 to 45% among likely voters in pennsylvania. >> that's outside the poll's margin of error. so it is a lead though, a slim one robert f. kennedy jr. gets 4% also out today, pulling from monmouth, suggesting a sea change in how democrats view their choice now compared to before president biden bowed out, take a look at 5% of democrats. now say they were enthusiastic about harris trump race. that's up from just 46% back in june for biden trump match-up republican enthusiasm is unchanged at 71%, starting us off tonight. david axelrod, a former senior adviser to president obama, also, ashley etienne, former communications director for vice president harris, and man-hours, who served as a senior adviser in the trump administration. david, is there any way that the strategy to

let trump be trump? we'll work in this election or does the trump campaign really needs to settle on a message well, it's only that's almost a rhetorical question, anderson. >> yes, they have to settle on a message and i think the message they tried to deliver on the teleprompter was probably close to where they want to appeal, which is to try and saddle the vice president with the president's record of the parts of the president's record that people don't like or appreciate. but it always gets bogged down in trump's own acting out, his characterizatio ns of her as low intelligence or references that are gratuitous and nasty and have nothing i think to do with the central thesis of the speech. and this is a problem he clearly is somebody who feels like he had erase in hand the candidates changed at the top. now he's in a very, very close and pitched battle for this election. and he's, he's resentment maybe just a little

bit unsettled by that. and for that reason, he's not necessarily a great asset when he's out there on the stump. and i'm sure his his team, which has a very proficient professional team is trying to puzzle about how to keep him on message ashley, i mean, do you think it works in the foreign president calling harris in competence socialists, lunatic he called her communist, marxist. i mean, does that does that work? it seems like a very old campaign playbook yeah. >> i mean, it's very clear that the president is the former president is unraveling. i mean, he's having a complete meltdown down. i mean, commonly harris has got him in an incredible choke whole that's really driving him to the point of insanity and driving his campaign to the point of paralysis. here's two things. >> that. >> i can tell you as one. you underestimate kamala harris at your peril and donald trump is

finding that out now to the wall street journal, i think put it best that the gop have a candidate problem. they have a candidate problem in donald trump, to your point earlier, trump can't help himself, but to be donald trump and the more people see of him, the more they're turned off by him. there's too many people as they put it that don't like donald trump. and he's got no path to growth. yes. actually has. he needs new customers and has no path to growth right now. so he, that's why he's hitting a ceiling in the polls in all of this sort of is frustrating him and the other thing i would add that is, you know, he's totally, having a meltdown because all of his attacks against kamala harris are being undermined by the facts. you know, the economy is the strongest. it's, it's ever been, it's the envy of the world as a wall street journal put it, you've got inflation down border crossings, down crime is down so donald trump, what we're seeing right now is having a complete and total meltdown with no path to growth

and no strategy to get there. >> matt, do you believe he melting down? >> no, i don't think so. i think today's speech actually showed that he's, he's kind of finally getting some traction and really a direction on where to go in and clearly, it's difficult to shift campaign strategies partway through an election. you're spending years and hundreds of millions of dollars running against one opponent, that opponent then changes but, a lot of ways the speech he gave today and the statistics who's bringing up the economic vision is putting out or once he could have been giving even against joe biden and part of that is because he's doing exactly what he needs to be doing, which is tying kamala harris to joe biden. he's gonna remind the american voters that despite what vice president harris is trying to say, she's been living in they will observatory for the last four years. she's been working out of the white house and the executive office building. i mean, she has been part and parcel with all the things. they don't like. and despite in god bless ashley for flying the flag, but the fact is that most americans do not

feel like the economy is working for them right now, we saw unemployment tick up and last labor and jobs report. most americans still feel like they're stuck there not going ahead. wages are not keeping up with the increase in the cost of goods. and despite the fact that inflation may be leveling off a little bit, prices are still stubbornly high for most american families right now when they fill up the gas tank, when they go to the grocery store david net to affordability as much as inflation. >> david, tim walz has agreed to a vice presidential debate on cbs on october 1, j.d. vance was asked about on fox last hours is going to play that what he said? >> look, laura, we're certainly going to debate tim walz. we just heard about this thing three hours ago, so we're going to talk to them and figure out when we can debate. i actually think we should do more than one debate. so hopefully we're going to see him on october 1, but hopefully we're going to see him either before or after that because i think it's important for the american people to actually see us discuss our views does it, does it campaign typically

asked for multiple debates if they feel like they're ahead no. >> i mean plainly and the example of that, of course anderson is donald trump in the primaries who completely refused to participate in a series of debates want to, because he thought he was in command of that race they understand that they're in a very tough race here and what is very unusual as a vice presidential candidate asking for multiple vice presidential debates has never happened in history. >> and i suspect there'll be the debate on october 1, so just, if i can comment on what matt said, i mean, it's an intro, the one of the challenges for the trump campaign other than trump himself and his inability to stay on message and not gets sidetracked into kind of gratuitous personal attacks is they want to now ascribe everything that happened in the biden administration to the pe

administration with vice president. i mean, they are jerry rigging a strategy here. it's probably the best strategy gee they have but what's really happened is donald trump has become the embattled incumbent in this race. and kamala harris has become the turn the page candidate, and that's what's so threatening because people down trump's never exceeded 47% of the vote. and there's no indication that he would do that here. there are a lot of people who do not want to go back to donald trump and they found biden wanting primarily because of his age and now there's a candidate who seems acceptable. if you just look at how the favorables have risen sentiments have changed, and that's very threatening to trump and so they will try what matt suggests. it's, as i said, maybe the best strategy they have. but it's a tough road to hoe ashley that point, how much

do you think vice president harris should campaign with president biden what she's in this unprecedented position of being both the incumbent, as well as the challenger. >> she's got. and that's actually working to her advantage. she'll be able to claim aspects of the record that people really resonate with infrastructure bill guns, i mean, you know, the biden-harris record is incredible in terms of bipartisan success on some really entrenched issues. but she will also be able to create some space in chart out her own vision about how she wants to build the economy and the direction in which she wants to take the nation. and that's what she's going to do on friday. so i anticipate that she will spend some time with president biden, but i think there are better and more effective if they are part, you know, there's parts of the country that absolutely adore and love president biden and appreciate the president that is that he has been the

leadership taking us out of covid to building a record economy. so there's parts of the country where i think he'll play well, there's biden parts of the country with a deal do well, and he'll go there and i just think that there are more effective if they're apart, but they will spend some time together. i anticipate that friday will feel more like the passing of the baton where she will acknowledge the legacy of the biden-harris administration, but start to lay out a vision her own vision. but having president biden go into parts of the country to really drill down on the ark of his legacy, i think will be helpful. >> do you think it's an issue for republicans? i mean, there does seem to be enthusiasm on the democratic side right now. far more than yeah. well, i think there's some of this was going to be inevitable anyway, and you were going to see democrats come home after the debate in june, you certainly saw in polling that number of democrats across the country were dispirited. they may not want to acknowledge they were there to vote for joe biden,

but chances are they would have gotten there and by the way, in unenthusiastic vote counts, just as much as enthusiastic vote at the end of the day. and so i think what you're seeing is just a natural tightening of the race, which is where we always thought it's going to be. i mean, if a year ago we all probably would have thought that we're going to look at a single digit net popular vote. we're probably going to see a very tight race in seven battleground states and that's really what we're seeing right now. democrats are coming home. that's really not much of a surprise and we've got to close election, but ultimately it's going to come down to how voters feel about the direction of the country and to this point, they overwhelmingly say they disagree with it. everyone stay right there. i want to get your taken some breaking news. the washington post is reporting that just a few weeks after shopping his endorsement to the trump campaign, robert f. kennedy jr. tried to do something similar with the harris campaign. later, president biden's former chief of staff, ron klain joins us to talk about the race that debate whether he's still thinks president biden should not have dropped damn start your day

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reads robert f. >> kennedy jr. tried to meet with kamala harris to discuss cabinet job. the reason it sounds familiar is revealed in the subhead on which reads in part, kennedy has also had conversations with republican nominee we need donald trump, about a role in his administration. michael scherer and josh dawsey shares a byline on the story. michael scherer joins us now. so talk to us about what you've learned about this outreach from the kennedy campaign to the harris campaign. did they meet? >> they did not meet the harris campaign did get the message. it was sent out through intermediaries and has not responded really there's no interest on the harris side for this meeting, which is a big contrast to the conversation that started with trump actually, hours after that assassination attempt last month, they talked on the phone. kennedy flooding, milwaukee, met with trump on the sideline of the republican convention. there, kenny right now finds himself saying he's, it's a winner. he's in it for the long haul. he has campaign events planned, but actively

seeking out alternatives. talking to both of these camps and campaigns and trying to figure out if there is a way that he could broker support from from himself before the election into some sort of a policy rule. if he's not going to win the presidency. and as polls have been falling through the summer, can he broker that in some way to get a role in the next administration to focus on the issues that he cares about it. >> so there was i think there had been reporting and it may have been your reporting that when he talked to trump, there was was it wasn't a cabinet level position. he was wanting mean regarding health right? >> yeah. josh dawsey and i repeated that story as well what that conversation was sort of wide ranging and amorphous. it was started just between the two candidates. he had talked about something focused on health issues and science. they had mentioned cabinet position. there was crn within the trump

orbit about him getting confirmed by the senate, which you need to do if he was a cabinet level official. and there was also concern about whether they could trade an endorsement in some sort of explicit way. for a promise of a position whether that would have legal complications. now, the conversations with trump, i think are ongoing and we also reported the story that kennedy was down in west palm beach earlier this week. he won't comment about why he was there. if he was there or whether he met with trump but we know from the trump side, they think this is still an open conversation about whether they might get an endorsement from kennedy going forward and harris has made the calculation, democrats have made the calculation that there's not really an upside right now, although i would i would note, i think it's important for your viewers to note that his pulse have dropped recently, just as harris's polls have gone up, which suggests that if he gets out of the race he's going to benefit trump because the

people still supporting him are the people who were already on the trump side of the fence. so there is some risk here of harris now and engaging. the best thing probably for harris right now would be for if the poll is basically stay where they are is for kennedy to stay in the race through the election and bleed off some of these trump voters i'm sure it's fascinating. >> thank you so much. back with the panel, david. i mean, what do you make of this reporting? does it make sense for either harris or trump campaign says seriously entertain this outreach yeah, i think that makes sense for the trump campaign to think about it. >> i mean, i'm not suggesting they should be trading offices for for an endorsement for him to get out of the race and i do think that would raise a lot of questions, but michael's exactly right. what's happened since harris has gotten in the race is the third parties candidates generally, jill stein, cornell west in particular, who are candidates have of the last dave deflated,

but so has kennedys support among democrats deflated? and what is left with is this sort of fact seen resistant kind of conspiratorialist who are the core of his base, who would who would likely be trump voters if they were not kennedy voters. so it would, it certainly serves their purposes right at the moment that he's in the race earlier in the race, the third parties were i think a disadvantage to biden i hadn't right now with kennedy, i think he's a disadvantage to trump, but i will say this whatever they do. don't put them in charge of the national park service because i think a lot of bears would be really uncomfortable with him in charge over there matt, would you like to see from making a deal with kennedy yeah. >> i don't think he should he should do a sort of horse trading and i doubt he would at the end of the day, anything that i explicitly, i think

trump recognizes the fact that rfk would repel a number of voters as well if there's any sort of deal and rfk's influence is he's not uniform across the country. >> i mean, he actually holes often better in some of the southwestern states on areas where you have maybe a larger pockets of libertarians or folks who are less connected to the political establishment. so his impact on the race does vary state to state. but generally speaking, it's been impacted more and that goes back to even in the spring now, it was a larger impact when you had rfk getting upwards of 15% or so in some states certainly his impact has dwindled off precipitously since then, and i'd expect that actually goes down even further. you traditionally see third party candidates poll significantly better than they actually perform on election day. a lot of voters who are kind of fed up with politics when they're answering the poll. and then when they actually show up to vote, they stick with one of the two major candidates i would expect that's probably going to happen even if he does

stick around the race i mean, ashley, even if she wanted to make a deal with with kennedy, it would seem i mean, it would seem hard for kamala harris to do that. yeah. maybe why would she do that? right. it's not in her interest to do that. i mean, not only is he an uneven campaign or he's got all these bizarre positions that don't align with her own and, you know, from a democratic perspective, you want him to stay in the race because he draws voters from donald trump. so it makes perfect sense that they would not pick up the line on this one because why would they need it? >> david there's a new quinnipiac poll would find the number one issue among pennsylvania democrats by wide margin is preserving democracy. does that surprise you yeah it does it does you would expect the economy would be well up the list there. >> and i'm a little suspicious. i need to look at the cross tabs on this because what you find is that you have

republicans and democrats both answering the question the same way, but they mean something entirely different so i think fundamental, i've certainly abortion rights is going to be a big issue, particularly in those suburban areas around philadelphia. >> but in a lot of that state, it's a very, it's working in class status lot of non-college educated working class people. >> and i think fundamentally economic issues are going to play big there. and i think that's what you're going to see both candidates emphasizing. certainly that's what kamala harris seems to be emphasizing. and i think that's right. so i'm surprised by that i mean, that's you according to st. >> paul, i think the economy is the number one issue pennsylvania voters with the former president, had been better served focusing in today's speech rather than just more on the economy rather than calling come hires crazy and talking about her laugh no

i mean, look, i think part of the reason is probably bring up her laugh is if you actually look at some focus groups and something that voters have actually occasionally do bring up. it's something that's just been drilled in their mind and whether it's for media or means or what happened for some reason that is an attribute. voters are occasionally bring up in focus groups that's probably why donald trump brought up at the end of the day. hey, the voters that he needs are going to be concerned about two big issues is going to be obviously how they're feeling about the economy. i think it's going to be larger attitude about how they're feeling about their overall wellbeing and the world. when we see regional conflicts in the mid-80s potentially growing in global conflicts when we continue to see lack of progress in any sort possible peace negotiation around what happens in ukraine. there is a sense of uneasiness around the world right now. they think has also going to settle in for voters. again, that's going to be ultimately, i believe the biggest challenge for kamala harris is trying to disassociate from some of that biden national security record as well? >> maoris ashley etienne, thanks very much. david axelrod is going to stick around with

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results. look for doctors before the products in stores near you, close captioning brought to you by guilt visit gilt.com today for up to 70% off designer brands, it has the designers that get your heart racing had inside a prices new every day, hurry. there'll be gone in a flash designer sales at up to 70% or so of gilt.com today tomorrow, president biden and vice president harris will share a stage for the first time since he dropped out of the race more than three weeks ago, joining me now is one of present biden's longtime advisers former white house chief of staff, ron klain, who helped him prepare for his first and only debate with donald trump. >> mr. klein, appreciate you being with this you did not want president biden to drop out. you've said he deserved a second term, given what you've seen in the three weeks since he did with the harris-walz campaign were you wrong? you think? >> well, i don't know if i was wrong or not, but the president made a decision to drop out and i think he executed extremely

well. he handed the baton off clearly to vice president harris, one of my concerns was if he dropped out, there were some people in our party who wanted to have an open process, an earth that's process to pick a nominee but i thought that if he was going to drop out, the one thing to do was to give the baton clearly to the vice president xi's prepared to be president uniquely, among other democrats and experienced a national campaigns and the success she is had these three weeks proves that he made the right choice to endorse her and to point the party towards her and to rally the party behind hi to her. she's been a great candidate. she will be a great president. and i think there's been a lot of success these past three weeks on the campaign trail for when the president dropped out, you i think it was a tweet new send out, you publicly blamed what you call donors and electeds saying that they quote, pushed out the president, they pushed out biden from the campaign is that is that really the case after that debate, certainly there was huge dismay among

democratic voters, wasn't there and certainly just this latest poll that we just talked about at the top of the program with in terms of enthusiasm it said 85% or something right now as opposed to 46% in june well, i agree enthusiasm is up. >> there's a lot of rallying around the vice president. i'm so glad to see it. it's harder than well-deserved for her. but i do think the president was pushed by public bye, bye, public calls from elected officials from to drop out from donors, calling him to drop out. and i think that was wrong. i think he made the decision ultimately and he made the right decision to say if i'm going to leave the race, i think the vice president should take over and i was wrong though for them to do that. >> why was it wrong for donors to raise objections to other elected officials i think that not wrong like immoral, but i think it was unfortunate because i think that the president had won the nomination, fair and square 14

million people went and voted for him and the vice president, vice president. >> but again, that's all in the past, anderson, he decided to drop out. he decided to endorse the vice president. her campaign is going well. we have a better chance than ever to defeat donald trump this fall, and to elect a experienced talented, intelligent president, to lead the country for the next four years former speaker nancy pelosi, who obviously played a key role in convincing and pressuring president biden to step aside has said that she hasn't spoken to the president since he dropped out and that she, loses sleep over the fate of their friendship. >> she's also been quite blunt, blunt, telling david remnick of the new yorker quote, i've never been that impressed with his political operation. they won the white house bravo, but my concern was the seine happening and we have to make a decision for this to happen. they were not facing the facts of what was happening in quote i'm wondering how you respond to that criticism. and if you take issue with anything speaker pelosi said, just in the past several weeks well, i'm not looking for a fight

with speaker pelosi. >> she has reviewed she's entitled to it. i will say about the president's political operation. it did win in 2020 and delivered the best midterm results for democrats of any democratic president as 1934. so that's a pretty good pedigree right there i acknowledged that the president was at best tide and perhaps a bit behind in the race. and as he said, the party was divided about his future and the way to beat down trump is to unite the democratic party he had lost the ability to do that and he thought vice president harris is the right person to do that and he's been proven right in that regard. she has united the party behind her forcefully and effectively and that's what we need to win this fall. >> you had stepped down as the white house chief of staff, obviously back in 2023, you came back to oversee that the debate that the president had with donald trump was there i don't want to go over all of

what happened, but i'm just wondering, there was a lot of talk in the run-up to that debate about the prep that the team you all put in place was doing? there was talk about an airplane hangar where you recreated the stage the night of the debate, was there anybody he raising any concern about the president that night and his ability to, you know, was there any talk about having him not go out on that state? >> no. the president was suffering from a cold and he was tired from four trips back forth across the atlantic days leading up to the debate but, but he'd done well in the practices and we thought he was going to do very well that night and he obviously did not perform well. >> and then there was even know like even the way he walked out onto the stage and the way he looked in cutaway look, i mean, it was really a complete surprise to you i mean, the way he walked out in stage is he he walked out on the stage and so i think that he we expected a

better performance. >> he expected a better performance, so it didn't happen. and then people reacted to that and, so i think that in the end he made the right decision to hand that piton over to the vice president and strongly an enthusiastically backed her candidacy. and it's been a very successful candidacy as it should be she is extremely experienced she has been involved in national security decisions. she represented our country to munich security conference twice. she's known by world leaders. she's well regarded on the world stage. and here at home, she has been fighting for freedom and economic justice for all americans for these for as a senator, as the state attorney general and now as vice president there. >> just finally, i mean, there have been a number of political observers wondering out loud if people in the president's inner circle had their judgment clouded by their desire to stay in power. new york times columnist tom friedman a road a right after the debate, he

said, quote, i had been ready to give biden the benefit of doubt up to now because during the times i engage with him one-on-one, i found him up to the job. he clearly is not any longer his family and his staff had to have known that is that fair? >> i mean, no, i don't think they have to have known that i first i think he's absolutely up to the job. >> if you saw after the debate, he had a bad night at the debate. i won't deny that. but after the debate, he gave an hour long press conference after the nato summit, where he talked about world events and some have called it one of the best foreign policy press conferences any president's ever given he navigated that nato summit and rally nato behind the ukraine declaration to support ukraine continued support for ukraine and then explained his policies about china and europe. i think very effectively that press conference. so i think he's clearly up to the job he brought home a number of american hostages since then. so i just think that mr. friedman's wrong about that. i don't deny that it was a bad debate performance. that's different than whether or not the president is up to the job he's clearly up to the job. he's doing it every day. he's doing it successfully ron

klain, i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> thanks. anderson. >> now, with me now, is david axelrod who served as senior advisor to president obama. david, what do you make what ron was saying? >> well, first of all, look, i know ron well, we worked together in the white house. i was involved in a lot of debate preps with him and he's excellent at what he does. i do think that there was and you could see in his own comments a tremendous sense of loyalty among the group around the president and i don't i'm not going to criticize them for that, but the truth of the matter is what happened in that debate was that long-standing concerns that people had had that grew over time hi, about the president's performance in public just broke open like a dam and it wasn't public officials who drove the president from the race. it was public opinion and you can see now that 80, 90% of democrats

say, say he made the right decision and a light number say they're happy that kamala harris is the candidate. he is right by the way that the president's decision to quickly embrace the vice president as his successor as a candidate helped her enormously and it helped her consolidate very quickly. so he's right about all that, but let's let's be honest, the president made a very tough decision and it was the right decision and the result is we now have a very competitive race for president. and we wouldn't have had he not made that decision. >> it is interesting. i mean, had the had the present not immediately sort of indicated that the baton should go to the vice president. there had been all that talk among donors and others and publicly in a lot of handwringing of should there be some sort of three or four certain prominent people who

suddenly get elevated, who then go on some sort of barnstorming tour, doing town halls. i mean, there was never very clear of how all that would work no i was proposing debates on ac360 over a series of nights and then the audience on that. >> but i was yes. yeah look i think that regardless of whether that there had been such a process and you can see there's a lot of talent in the democratic party, a number of those candidates were in contention for vice president but regardless of that, i think she was always the front runner, i think had she participated in a process or not, she likely would have been the the nominee, but the rapidity, the speed with which she consolidated this nomination, i think was part of why she's had such momentum because it was very efficient. it was very professional, and i think it said something about

her as a leader david axelrod, thanks so much. quick programming note just had on the source, arizona senator mark kelly joins kaitlan. collins is talking about the 2024 race, plus with abortion rights on the ballot in arizona, the former vice president contender is going to also discuss the possible election impact for democrats there in terms of turnout, that's the source about 20 minutes from now. still ahead for us, the former president is allies doubling down on attacking vice president harris as a radical liberal and repeatedly comparing her to senator bernie sanders she was to the left of bernie sanders. she ranked and scored the left of bernie sanders. >> she is considered more left-wing than crazy bernie sanders, look at her she's worse than bernie well, up next, i'll speak with senator bernie sanders every day. more people are deciding its time for a fresh approach to pet food developed with made from real meeting veddriq portioned for your dog and delivered right to your door it's

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often comparing harris and her running mate, two former presidential candidates that are bernie sanders suggesting there policies are in further left as she gives off this california san francisco vibe he has this sort of bernie sanders in hunting gear vibe. >> she was trying to position herself to the left of bernie sanders. >> she was to the left of bernie sanders. >> she ranked and scored the left of bernie sanders. she is considered for left-wing than crazy bernie sanders, look at her. >> she's worse than bernie. she made bernie sanders looked like a moderate because she an extremis further to the left and bernie sanders joining me now vermont senator bernie sanders. i don't know if they sent out a memo and everybody's just like reading off this memo, but it's like what to me this is like one woody allen had marshall mcluhan in the line in annie hall instead, i happen to have marshall mcluhan right here. so here's senator sanders. >> do you take that as a badge of honor?

>> i mean, is there a fair comparison? person in your view you know, kamala harris is a i would say a very strong mainstream democrat she has been you know, she has her views on this or that issue but if anyone is worried that she is more to the left than bernie sanders it's not quite accurate harris has clearly or for worse, for harris is clearly reversed herself, though on it on a number of more progressive policy positions that she held when she ran the primary. the democratic primary, the 20 mean 20 election. do you think she's at risk of losing some of the core progressive base because of it no, because he raised concern for you as the most this is the most consequential election in a lifetime. >> or she is running against somebody who is not only a pathological liar i hear it's a very dangerous guy. you off familiar with the reality that

just the other day he announced that the ten or 15,000 people who came out to the vice president's rally in michigan. they really weren't there. it was just artificial intelligence. i mean, you're in a crazy world here. and i think every progressive the numerical understands that we've got to do everything we can to elect kamala harris and tim walz and it's suddenly his lying he denies women the right to control their own bodies. he thinks climate change is a hoax et cetera, et cetera. so i think the choice is incredibly clear. i think progressives from one end of this country to the other organs do everything we can to elect the vice president. >> obviously endorsed harris when you and i spoke before you had endorsed her, you said you wanted to make sure that she would represent and fight for all the working class issues that you have devoted your life to clearly, mux feel she has met that bar. you've endorsed

her. i'm wondering what you make of the campaign that she and governor walz are running? >> well, look, she has come i mean, you've got to have enormous respect for the fact that just in the last few weeks, she has put together a campaign. she's been in many parts of the country, brought out huge and enthusiastic our crowd. she's raising money or the polling is good. she is selected, i think a very good vice presidential candidate all of that speaks a whole lot to her leadership. and she deserves a lot of credit for that. the point that i have made is that i happen to believe then at a time when so many of our people in this country are struggling, when you've got 60% of our people are living paycheck to paycheck. when we have massive income and wealth inequality when we have half of our elderly people living on $30,000 or less. i think not only is it the right thing to start talking about issues that are concerned to working class people. it is really good

politics i did a poll last week, our campaign did a poll and what it showed is that overwhelming majority of democrats, independents, republicans for example, believed that we should expand social security benefits by lifting the cap on taxable income, which is how i think at $168,000, you do that, you can raise incomes for low-income seniors and a very significant way overwhelming charli, the american people think we should not pay more for prescription drugs in this country than people around the world, which means lowering prescription drug costs by 50%. can we do that? we really can do that. we could expand medicare, the up a dental hearing envision we should have a taxes them, which finally as 2 billionaire's the slop paying their fair share of taxes because despite what donald trump may think, these are not radical left ideas, this is what the overwhelming majority of the american people believe is good policy, including a majority of republicans the washington post

is reporting tonight that robert f. >> kennedy jr. has attempted to reach out to vice president harris to meet about a possible endorsement. justice he met with donald trump about a possible endorsement. would you see any reason why harris should do that i'm they've got to figure that stuff out. >> i have not paid a whole lot of attention to the kennedy campaign they will make their own decision on that they're likely going to be large demonstrations by pro-palestinian groups opposed to the war against hamas. at the democratic convention, the biden ministrations got a lot of pushback, obviously from progressive voters on the issue of gaza and us support for israel. do you think that that animosity i don't know if animosity is the right word, but that concern, do you think that has crossed over to vice president harris? how much of an issue is this going to be? for her campaign moving forward? >> well look here in this, let me be very honest with you. i have believed that i believe that the biden administration has been probably the most progressive administration in

the united states since franklin delano roosevelt biden said he wanted to be he wanted to do that. and i think he has kept his word in kabul. a harris has been by his sights on domestic issues. they have a whole lot to be proud of but i think the president has been wrong in terms of his support for netanyahu. i happen to agree with the international criminal court that what netanyahu is doing in gaza, the mass of killings, the destruction of the health care system, the destruction of housing, the bombing of every university and now creating a situation where tens of thousands of children face starvation the united states, in my view, should not be providing another nickel to netanyahu and his war machine that's my view president biden disagrees with that. do i think that will have an impact among young people, among some progressives? i do. >> but at the end of the day, i think most progressives and say he is wrong the president is

wrong on gaza. >> but the alternative is donald trump, and that is lot into acceptable alternatives. so we've got to keep pushing the administration to change its views of regarding funding for the israeli war machine. but we have got to defeat donald trump, but elect kamala harris sinner sanders. i appreciate your time thank you very much new developments in the break-in it one of the foreign president's campaign offices who police are looking for and the help they said they need to find. we'll be right back individually suvs for individuals isn't that get offers on some models of alexis golden opportunity sales event when you're the leader is disaster clean up and restoration. >> how do you make like it never even happened, happened

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person? >> well, anderson, one of the key mysteries here is what he did in that office. he appeared to have gained access through a backdoor and what they don't know is what was the what was the reason why he was there? they don't believe he took anything. they also said one of the big concerns would prefer the investigators was to see whether he he left anything behind, perhaps a bug or something like that. nothing like that was found in their search. and now they're trying to put a request out for law enforcement in this region to try to find him. they say he has no fixed address. he has a california driver's license and has as you said, it, criminal history, low low-level criminal history from that state, anderson i mean, is there any evidence this was politically motivated yeah. know, at this point they have no indication that this is all politically motivated or that he has any connection with any of the things including, of course, these threats from iran that we've been talking about in last few days, anderson from

the perspective of law enforcement, it appears this is somebody who because he doesn't have a fixed address, perhaps just happened into this strip mall, this shopping center in loudon county, which is by the way, not only a trump campaign office, but also a local republican office. and it appears that this is something completely unconnected to politics. so from now, for now, at least that the request is for law enforcement to charlotte, find him in case he does something else? >> it also seems unconnected to any form of actual intelligence because i mean, he's not even attempting to hide his identity. and clearly there were cameras all over that place or they are authority is concerned about him committing more crimes. >> yeah. look, i mean, this is somebody from what we can tell is not a very sophisticated person when it comes to trying to commit commit alleged crimes, right? i mean, if you look at his criminal history, this is something that is more like retail crime back