time. learn more about balance and brighton at laura gueler.com cnn news central, weekdays at seven eastern you're in the cnn newsroom. i'm jessica dean in new york and i'm jim sciutto in tel aviv, israel developing now u.s. secretary of state antony blinken is heading to israel tonight in an urgent push to >> hopefully finalize a ceasefire hostage deal between israel and hamas. and as a reminder of the stakes, there are currently 100 115 hostages

alive. some sadly dead, still held in gaza so many moving parts, so many questions remain president biden says a deal this is closer now than ever, led much more ahead. jessica we will talk to you soon, jim. >> but first tonight with just 80 days until the election, vice president kamala harris is gearing up for arguably the most consequential week of her political career thus far, the democratic national convention kicking off in chicago monday and tonight, former president donald trump is in battleground, pennsylvania where he spoke to a rally for nearly two hours. this is we have new polling showing harris gaining ground on trump in some key sunbelt states. cnn senior data reporter harry enten is running the numbers for us and harry, we've got some new numbers out today. what do you make of them? >> tight, tight, tight. that's what i make of it. let's take a look at the four states that the new york times sienna college poll polled over the past week. and i want you to take a look at the key in the

yellow. all within the margin of error. so we can kamala harris up by five points in arizona, georgia trump up by four, nevada trump up by one. and in north carolina so are democrats want to play a c, kamala harris up to their bottom line is two states where trump is ahead, two states where harris is ahead, but all within the margin of error, tight, tight, tight. now, what's key here is who would you rather be in this situation? who has the momentum? and i want you to take a look at these states in the aggregate, right? this is the democrat versus done i'll trump arizona, georgia, nevada, and north carolina. you go back to november of 2020 across these four states, biden and trump are essentially tied. but in may of 2024, look at that, look at that advantage that donald trump held in these states. he was up by nine points over joe biden now, in august of 2024, we've got that tied race. again. so what we have right now is essentially the same picture and aggregate that we had back in november of 2020. and of course, joe biden won that year. so the bottom

line is kamala harris, whip momentum. you'd rather be her than donald trump if we're projecting this out nationally. but it is way too close to call in the sunbelt stage jessica and harry, what groups are helping harris close the deficit that biden had and close this gap? >> yeah, what are the groups? well, if you know anything about the sunbelt, you know that georgia, north carolina have a lot of black voters in arizona and nevada have a lot of hispanic voters in them. all right, so this is a vote choice across the sunbelt swing states among likely voters look at how much better kamala harris is doing now than joe biden was doing back in may. she's getting 84% of the blackn was j of it back in may. how about a spanish? it's basically the same story. look at this, kamala harris is getting 54% of that vote now compared to joe biden just getting 47% back i will note that harris is still actually somewhat underperforming what joe biden did with these two groups back in 2020. but she's doing significantly better than he

was doing back in may and what is the poll tell you about the different ways that harris and trump are talking about the economy, which of course is the issue americans say they care about them? yeah, economy, economy, economy. so this is rather interesting. all right, so this is the harris versus trump margin and arizona, georgia, nevada, north carolina. look at this. donald trump holds an advantage on who, who voters trust more on the economy. look at that. he leads harris by 12 points. but interestingly enough, this is a question that i really don't think pollsters ask nearly enough, which is who cares about people more like you look at this, harris holds a five point advantage on that. you go back to 2012, mitt romney won on the economy, but barack obama won that election because you want on this question cares about people like you and harris right now is leading on this less of a lead that trump has on the economy. but right now, i think voters are balancing these two thoughts in their head. and that's why we have such a close race across the sun belt battlegrounds. >> all right. so let's zoom out now that we have this new data, where does the race of the 270 electoral college votes stand,

right? >> so you know, last week the new york times released polls from the northern battleground states in the great lakes. and this weekend, they released them across the sunbelt. if the new york times poll it's are exactly right, exactly right. of course there's a margin of error. we'll get to that in a second. kamala harris would get 297 electoral votes more than the 270 she needs to win because she'd went up here in the great lake battleground states. she'd also went down here in north carolina and arizona, lose in nevada and in georgia. so if the polls are exactly right, she's ahead. but of course course these polls come with a margin of error in this race, in my opinion, is very too much close to call. why is that because if we look within the new york times poll's margin of error, you could actually find that donald trump could get 312 electoral votes, winning up here in the great lakes, winning in north carolina, georgia, arizona, nevada. so bottom line is as we head of the democratic national convention, yes, you'd rather become a harris, then you would be donald trump, as you see here, this has sort of the median projection, but the bottom line is a donald trump

victory is well within the margin of error. jessica. >> all right. harry enten, as always breaking the numbers down for us. thank you very much. thank you. >> and joining me now, cnn and political analyst and white house correspondent for pbs newshour, laura barone lopez and stuart stevens. he's the senior advisor to the lincoln project. and also author of the book, the conspiracy to end america five ways my old party is driving are democracy to autocracy. thanks to both of you for being here on a saturday night with us stuart, let's start first with you here. he just walked us through these numbers. it is a very tight race. as we look at those key swing states, we're heading into the dnc next week. what do you think the harris campaign needs to do to keep their momentum? >> well, look this one note about this as far to african american vote that's showing an 84% for harris. harris is going to get 92% of that vote. in 1964, goldwater got 7% are black folk. in 19 and 2020, trump got 8%. that's one point

every 56 years that's, not going to change. so when you're projecting out these numbers, you really need to factor that in. i've seen this so many times. in polling. i can't tell you how many times have seen my candidate, republicans doing better with african americans before the election. but i can tell you how many times we've gotten north of non percent. and that was never i think this race right now, the trend is your friend and you want to be harris in this race. and trump doesn't have a message, i think to the major challenge for the harris campaign is not to run this like a normal campaign. donald trump is a crime donald trump is a sexual predator. you need to run against him. he can't run against him on the economy or something like this was a rematch of obama, romney. you have to frame this race. now you need to talk about the economy, but this isn't going to be erased about the economy. i think, i think it's going to be a referendum on donald trump and who you could look to pride

in the white house, and it's not going to be a guy who's a criminal and laura, we know that the former president will be holding counter-programming next week during the dnc with he's gonna have these rallies in pennsylvania and michigan of course two very key battleground states how do you think that will go for him and what do you think? >> the campaign is going to be trying to achieve? what's the best-case scenario for them as the democrats have their big week next week sorry stewart, i'm going to let laurie answer that one. >> please go ahead. >> we'll come back to you yeah. i'm curious to see what stewart has to say on this as well, but ultimately, trump's campaign is trying to blunt harris's momentum, find anything that they can do to stop it. >> because right now, democrats and the harris campaign are expecting that coming out of the dnc, they will have another little boost and it will just add to the momentum that she has as i'm on the ground here in chicago already and, you know, a lot of the voters that i've talked to, yes, they're

in illinois and it's not a swing state, but they just talk all the time about how much the vibes of this election have shifted. and it already felt like a vibes election before now, especially since voters didn't really respond to some of the good economic numbers previously. and so it felt like a vibe session to voters. and that's why they were more leaning trump prior to president biden dropping out of the race. and harris is trying to add to the to add to the momentum that she has right now and trump after not being out on the campaign trail for about a week ago for a whole week he's now trying to really get out there in those battleground states and siphon off voters at the margins, whether it is black voters or whether it is latino voters. and i take stewart's point that historically black voters vote democratic, a vast majority of them more than 80%. but there is some concern among some of the democrats that i'm talking to about just at the margins, whether or not black men specifically will are still curious about trump or if

harris is actually helping bring some of them home? >> stuart, let's get your thoughts on all of that look, if i was advising donald trump god forbid, i would say just stay out of the way it next week, i've been in the situation where if the other teams convention i don't think there's anything you can do this going to break through that you're going to have whatever you create is going to be a bad split screen for you. >> you can't be in any kind of audience like they're going to have at the convention, any kind of setup like that you know, trump is not helping himself when he campaigns now, he has these speeches. there's supposed to be about the economy and it goes into these attacks and it goes on and on. i mean, this guy is like for they'll castro problem inside this campaign that you can come up with all the good strategies you look at the speeds that they wrote for him to give us his acceptance speech, didn't look good to speak to the actually gave and that is the problem with the trump campaign. and it's the candidate. and j.d. vance only

reinforce the worst aspects of donald trump the ultimate maga candidate i think that this is a problem they have that they have no idea how to deal with laura to stewart's point during the rally tonight, the one in wilkes-barre, pennsylvania, he launched into these attacks against harris, focusing on her looks, i want to play everyone a clip of that i'm a better look in person. >> then kamala know i couldn't believe it. >> she said, you know, i had never heard that one they said no, her biggest advantages that she's a beautiful woman. i'd gone i never thought that i'm better looking than she is. >> laura, one of the key demographics would be female voters in the suburbs. i'm thinking about the collar counties outside of philadelphia for example this is look, this is president trump, as we know him. this, he

does this sort of thing for years and years going back to when he first ran in 2016, attacking people personally. but how do you think this is playing with different voters that he needs to win in november well, i think that already a number of those swing women, suburban voters regardless of race or ethnicity, we're looking at the abortion issue looking at reproductive rights and women's health care issues. >> and we saw that in 2022 that drove a number of women towards democrats, including some that hadn't necessarily previously voted democratic and so you add on top of that, abortion is still going to be an issue. reproductive rights are still going to be an issue. this election cycle looting in some of those key swing states, it's going to be on the ballot in states like arizona. also, it sounds like in states like nevada and then you add on top of it these very specific attacks on harris be at about her gender, about her race and some of the women voters that

i've spoken to so far don't really like that kind of rhetoric they don't respond well to it. it reminds them of issues regarding trump's temperament that may be turned them away from him in 2020. and it's going to only potentially push them further away from him and ultimately, it's difficult to see thank we might have lost laura for a second. stewart, while we wait to get her back on it. i want to ask you, do we still have stored here with us? all right. stuart, i'm going to ask you just on the issue of reproductive rights. obviously, that was that really lifted democrats in the midterms in 2020 and then in all of these kind of one-off elections that we've seen between when roe was overturned and now, do you think what is your sense of how how pressing is that issue? how much of that is going to be still galvanizing voters to go to vote democratic this time

you know, when i think is underappreciated about this is how this reaches traditionally conservative voters so for a long time, those of western republican party attacked obamacare, our national health care program for as we take, you don't want the government to come between you and your doctor? so that is exactly what has happened now in, since roe v wade has been overturned, that same argument that resonated with more conservative voters about obamacare or national health insurance resonates with these voters when it comes to the question of having the right to make your own decisions about your own medical situation and in the lincoln project, a way that we go after this is talk about rights and talk about the heavy hand of government. and there's other groups to come in and they talk about abortion rights specifically. and these are complimentary. and i think that the complete picture of deaths is a world in which we felt that for too generations there was a constitutional

right that's been taken away. and no one likes a situation which rights are taken away from them. and it's only going to get worse with donald trump and j.d. vance. they just seem to be on this mission. is there any group of women in this country that they can't offend i mean, what trump is saying about beauty, you wouldn't say that like i school class president, race i mean, it is just so insulting and their daring whether or not to vote for him. and i think they're going to take them up on it. >> all right. we're gonna leave it there. stuart stevens. thank you. laura barron lopez. thanks to you as well. we're sorry that we miss you here at the end, but thanks to both of you for your time. >> thank you. >> we have more to come in. the cnn newsroom tonight, including jim sciutto, who is live in tel aviv. jim thank you. >> jessica talks to reach a ceasefire in gaza and a hostage deal. they wrapped up until next week, but the israeli prime minister offices saying this evening, their negotiators have cautious optimism. we're going to speak to the former israeli ambassador to the u.s.

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qx at covering the harris-walz campaign you see in it breaking news, new video of an israeli air strike which killed two hamas commanders. >> this in the west bank you could see it there the very, you're watching released by the idf. hamas confirmed those killings, the deaths of those commanders earlier this evening the war continues also tonight, cautiously optimistic that is how israeli diplomat to describing their outlook as they and others tried to reach a deal on a ceasefire with hamas, as well as the release of remaining israeli hostages. the secretary of state, antony blinken is heading back to israel his hope that this is the week when those talks finally succeed. president biden said yesterday, negotiators are as close to a deal as they've been ever before. michael oren is a former israeli ambassador to the u.s. he joins us now to

discuss good to have you on ambassador. thanks so much for joining always good to be with you, jim. hi so as you know, there are legitimate questions about how interested hamas leaders are in making this deal, but there are questions inside this country about whether the israeli prime minister is serious about coming to an agreement here, what is your view? >> you do you believe that netanyahu is ready to make a deal well, i think he'd be willing to make a deal if the deal meets sort of his minimum requirements. >> i can't speak to his political interests. i'm not as adviser, i'm not even in the government anymore, but it's this. he doesn't want a deal that's going enable hamas to come out of the tunnels and declare victory will go up do the v sign, and proceed to take over gaza again, rearm reorganized and mount another october 7. this is his fear and the way he feels that can be prevented as if the ceasefire is not open-ended. it's not permanent, but it's it's it's it's it's time limited 67

weeks with giving the israeli the option to renew fighting should hamas come out of those tunnels and start shooting again. another big issue is the control of what's known as the philadelphi route as the 16 kilometer border between gaza and sinai under that route, just this week as well discovered 50 smuggling tunnels. those were the tunnels switch all those armaments, all those explosives into gaza one wants to stay on that route. hamas wants it back quite obviously let me ask you this though, because to get to this deal, israel would have to acknowledge that its stated goal of eliminating hamas is a failure because hamas has not let been limited it liberated, eliminated rather, many hamas commanders and fighters have been killed perhaps numbering in the thousands. >> but their leader remains a live somewhere in those tunnels. is the israeli prime minister ready to grant that reality that hamas has not been eliminated?

>> well, he'll say is yes, the goal hasn't been achieved yet, but it's still might be achieved in the future and he's still committed to that's why he wants a temporary ceasefire that will enable israel to renew the fighting should hamas britt that ceasefire, keep in mind, hamas is broken every single ceasefire history including the ceasefire of october you can almost rely on them to break the ceasefire that's what i think, but that's now is hoping for is counting on and that a permanent ceasefire won't be imposed. it's certainly a peaceful a pro-ceasefire means, indeed, as you say, jim means hamas wins and that'll be very difficult for a large number of israelis, but not all israelis. living number israelis who say listen, the major thing is to get the hostages back we'll get the hostages back. hamas wants to declare a clear victory. we will rearm, we will get ready for the next battle and next time, we'll know better and will do better without getting hostages taken. >> as, you know there are many israelis who've grown quite impatient with these negotiations and frankly quite

impatient with the israeli prime minister. there was another protest tonight here in tel aviv and they questioned his motives. they, they, they and you've heard this even from senior israeli officials, as you know, questioning whether he's putting his political interests above the interests of the hostages and the possibility of getting a deal. do you believe that netanyahu is placing his political interests first? >> i have no evidence to substantiate that. i don't it's a highly political issue. i think that we're looking netanyahu is looking at the strategic picture. if hamas wins, what does it mean for our regional deterrence? what does it mean for our peace relationships with the gulf states? they've made peace with us not because they love us, but because we're strong because we're standing up against both well, sunni extremism in the form of hamas, i.s.i.s. al-qaeda, the muslim brotherhood. and shiite extremism in the form of iran and his villa. if we show weakness, people be able to golf may not want to make peace with us so quickly. so there's a very big picture here. the big question about whether

sinwar, the commander of hamas, even wants a ceasefire. he hasn't showed up for these talks yet. >> i think what he really wants is a war between israel, hezbollah, and iran, which could draw all of israeli forces out of gaza to fight in the north. and tremendous international pressure on israel weaken israel economically strategic and you get a better deal, you have to think about some time, not just from the israeli perspective, but from the hamas perspective. >> and meanwhile, there is a war in the north the north is the north is being removed, right at every single day in all the rockets but you, know that this constant search quest for showing strength establishing deterrence, which by the way both sides or the many sides in this conflict are constantly communicating. >> they must do so. iran is communicating that now, following the strike on honea, that that cycle is an endless one and it's one. you and i have witnessed for decades here my question is is the israeli government willing to discuss the outlines of a way forward

in gaza and by the way, hamas as well that is not purely forced for force that there is some peace process going forward, but also system of governance in gaza going forward that involves power-sharing and not just at gunpoint, right? you know that's the only solution it's not a black and white situation, jim, it's not a zero sum game i'm strong at the opinion after being involved in this for many, many years that the way to get to pieces by showing strength iran is behind all of this instability in the middle east, all this violence if no one stands up to iran and stops it right away, the violence is going to continue. >> so someone's got to stop and zap up an exact a price from iran. so if i run hasn't paid any price whatsoever in order to de-escalate against iran, you have to escalate because iran and i hope the united states would take that leadership role on the other hand, i would like israel to take gestures more than just gestures concrete measures to

try to advance the peace process. the saudis say they want to talk about a pathway to a palestinian state. i think is probably about a pathway pathway doesn't obligate israel in any way. i think showing a diplomatic horizon for the palestinians would open such a pathway yeah. >> and as you know, oppose political dangerous for netanyahu with his right wing, we'll see how that end of this is resolved. >> ambassador michael oren. thanks so much as always for joining he will be safety will do and back to you, jessica, in new york. >> a great interview there, jim. thank you so much. still ahead. we're going to take you inside donald trump's finances. there is new information on how he's making millions, even as he faces costly civil lawsuits. that's next fall. comedy u.s. cnn. what could go wrong i got news for you. for me or saturday,

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country club and a meeting space it is a place where all of the maga world, or at least the richer members of the maga world come together and it's a place where they can show their support for donald trump by renting space, thereby having meetings there and so on. >> but trump also had other interesting sources of income despite once calling bitcoin scam, he helped more than 1 million in cryptocurrency, has a six-figure investment in gold bars. he reported making more than $5 million, largely in royalties from his books, letters to trump, and our journey together and he made $300,000 for endorsing a bible with country singer lee greenwood game is on and trump realized early on in his life that if you can attach his name to lots of different products, get his name out there, people would see that as impressive but there's one enormous financial albatross for trump that's also reflected in this report. >> this income has weighed down by legal debt. he owes e. jean carroll money. he owes the

court for the fraud case in new york. those are up on appeal. he's unlikely to prevail on appeal. >> those judgments against trump for defamation in the case of columnist e. jean carroll and a civil fraud case in new york amount to more than $100 million in financial liabilities according to this disclosure, that doesn't count. legal fees. he owes his attorneys and possible other cases on the horizon and so the mountain of money owed will increase if he's not elected and trump's actual overall wealth, including over 2 billion worth of shares in his social media platform, truth social is a bit of a house of cards according to one biographer donald has always been desperate for cash because he's not a wealth builder. >> he is a wealth extractor. >> will this financial disclosure hurt trump politically as his race against kamala harris titans anytime we discussion is about how rich donald trump is, it probably helps him with his base it

gives them the idea that this is a man who knows how to one, these filings also show that former first lady, melania trump, earned significant income of her own in 2023 and part of this year, she took in more than $230,000 for one speaking engagement with the log cabin republicans and more than $330,000 for a licensing agreement for the sale of digital trading cards cnn reached out to the trump campaign for comment on the overall trump financial disclosure report. >> we haven't heard back jessica brian, todd. >> thank you very much. former president trump back talking about one of his favorite subjects this week, that would be crowd size. after bragging about his own large crowds, trump has been downplaying harris's crowds by phone falsely saying artificial intelligence must have been why vice president kamala harris has large crowds. and elon musk, who owns twitter now, x has a new tool that can be used to have a.i. create fake images of biden-harris and trump

cnn's donie o'sullivan joins us now donie, we have seen the amount of misinformation formation, ballooning online and it just keeps coming, break down what we're seeing yeah. >> and just real fire hose of misinformation. i mean, just this week alone, the week started with trump pushing these lies misinformation, disinformation about the crowd size at harris rally isn't look, we've spoken for a while now over the past year or two about the role that artificial intelligence could play in this election, especially when it comes to miss misinformation. and a lot of that conversation has focused around what if somebody creates a fake video or a fake image, or a fake peace? of audio. but what's interesting here and what is happening is something that experts refer to as the liar's dividend. it's basically what trump is doing here. it is just the idea that this technology is out there you don't even have to do anything with us.

you can just use the fact that it's out there and that it's possible to deny reality and that's what you're seeing here. trump is saying with these crowd size images does that they are a ai-generated as a way to cast doubt even though of course that is totally false. he also did a pretty recently when he was seen coming out of a courthouse in new york. he was seen waving and on his hands had some kind of red blotches on his hands. they had been captured by multiple press photographers and who knew he was asked about that a few weeks later he also tried to claim that that was a.i. generated, which of course it wasn't. and then of course, as you mentioned, he was live this week, with elon musk on x and that platform we shouldn't pretend that x or twitter as it was formerly known, was ever this place. only facts and only troops and no haze, but really that platform has just gone totally downhill under mosque kias, obviously re-platformed a lot of election deniers, but

also a lot of whites premises. and hateful pecker's as well on the platform and really just created a space as we saw on that, on that x conversation this week as space for allies to really just flourish and we also have new cnn reporting this week on how trump made $300,000 from his trump bible. what more can you tell us about that yes. >> so says it says a lot, doesn't look we saw a few months ago that trump was selling. they said trump in forest bible, basically with lee greenwood basically a bible that just says, god bless the usa on it. and we were at the rnc a few weeks ago where we saw people well buying that bible and forecasts money. take a look are you working here? >> you're buying what are you buying? >> i'm buying the greenwood i want trump to sign it and lay greenwood $75 and look, i mean,

this just i think really what you'll see next in coming up after this show are episode of misinformate, misinfonation on the whole story just really shows that there's this whole industry behind pushing missing formation and very much of it as a grift, there is all these products, basically a whole economy to support all the people who are peddling misinformation who boy. all right. donie o'sullivan, it makes my brain hurt sometimes. thank you for tracking this all for us we appreciate it. and next, our donie o'sullivan dives back into the world of misinformation, will it cause chaos in november's election, the whole story, misinfonation part to airing at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. still ahead tonight. former president trump has been repeatedly talking about a crisis at the border, but how bad is is it cnn returns to migrant hotspots and finds that encounters are now down. this

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now. just take a look beyond the border fence. >> in this hotspot south of the border wall, you see rows of razor wire and piles of fencing. >> a huge difference from when i was here more than a year ago, when hundreds of migrants in a makeshift camp are waiting to turn themselves into border patrol during another migrant surges, migrant families with children slept at the airport. and large groups of migrants rushed the international bridge towards el paso some of them in tears about the cumbersome asylum process is sibling go babil or second rule. one of the biggest indicators that migrant apprehensions are low, are the streets around this church take a look. >> you don't see large migrant camps on sidewalks and on the streets but during migrant surges, hundreds of migrant families called the street home garcia the priest has seen the cycles of migration before. it has become a big political

issue. >> garcia says migrants stopped showing up in large numbers in june when president joe biden's executive order bar to asylum for those who cross illegally and ahead of the election, he doesn't expect the democrats to let up politically. >> it's not good thing to do the humanitarian thing to do, but it's not politically the drop in migrant apprehensions is not just happening in el paso. >> it's happening all along the u.s. southern border. i wanted to show you this spot because this is one of the illegal crossing hotspots were actually in new mexico sukkot. and sometimes when you look beyond the border wall, you can see smugglers on the other side. i talked to a source familiar with the government data who says that last month, about 57,000 migrants were apprehended at the u.s. southern border. compare that to 200 250,000 in december of 2023 he does that mean that the migrant flow has stopped

absolutely not velazquez garcia from the international rescue committee says, another reason for the drop in migrant crossings is that more than 1 million migrants are stuck in mexico as they wait to enter the u.s. >> in what he calls a carousel, or mexican authorities busing migrants to southern mexico over and over again, you more aggressive policies, but by the mexican government, cnn has reached out to mexico's foreign ministry for comment and did not hear back the days when hundreds of migrants were camped outside sacred heart church are a thing of the past, at least for now. take a look at the mt ally the around me. but if covering the border has taught me anything, it's that the situation can change very quickly rosa flores, cnn, el paso, texas jake tapper, weekdays at four on cnn when you get your tools from harbor freight something about the job feels different your wallet,

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to patriotic propaganda it's very kind of 1980s to its very mtv, their videos broadcasting, mass games military parades and yes missile launches to some 26 million people who call kim jong-un's secret state home. >> the videos, all tam how grady is at an aid. everybody crying and loving hair peter began recording i thought it was so do you feel like. >> these programs do? have power to influence people's minds? >> absolutely. after watching one full day of the north korean content for two nights in a row, i just had why a very

bizarre dreams as if i was there hosting an edited version on his youtube channel for newsom you know, what did you think this was going to go viral no, absolutely not go viral. >> did peers, videos racking up? up almost 2 million views in less than two months people were basically giving comments that were all over the spectrum from they loved it too. >> they were terrified by it. >> viewers called the content surreal almost like going back in time, some of the most popular clips, eager to kim jong un visiting hot spring so in the shooter is happening. a dinosaur part because of cam, it's become kind of a cult following whenever kim comes on, everybody goes crazy. it's like that's the funny part. that's probably before his part people kept saying give me more, give me more. i want to see more of peters pirated pyongyang propaganda, a window

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