i mean, you know, all the balloon, but you go. >> hey, it's a three-way tie by the way, between you three there you gotta ladies haven't but thanks, lance, you get i don't know. maybe a good job. there you go. there you go. thank you, everyone. and thank you all for watching. i'll see you tomorrow night from chicago of course, 12:00 a.m. 2:00 a.m. eastern until then as an cooper continues, our coverage and good evening from the united center in chicago, site of a far different and far more historic 2024 democratic national convention and was even remotely imaginable just four weeks weeks ago. >> tomorrow night, the former candidate president biden, will give a keynote speech finalizing the transition to the new candidate and presumed nominee vice president harris. she is heading here here from

pittsburgh tonight after spending the afternoon on a bus tour with running mate tim walz through some of the surrounding towns west of the city the two visited with firefighters in a fire dog and one locality reporters traveling with them. so they brought baked goods. they also went to a campaign office, not far from there talking to staffers are working the phones and later to convenience store. she goes into the convention pension with a batch of new polling to point to in one from the washington post and abc news, she's now just outside the margin of error leading the former president in a multi candidate race, cbs this is new polling shows no clear leader with robert kennedy jr. in the mix. but as her also ahead and beyond the margin of error in a two-way matchup. our cnn poll of polls still shows no clear leader, but a two-point game for the vice president over the last two weeks, she was asked about her apparent pulling momentum before leaving pittsburgh tonight we have a lot of work to do to earn the vote of the american people. >> that's why we're on this bus tour today. >> and we're going to be traveling this country as we've been talking with folks, listen

listening to folks, and hopefully earning their vote. >> so in the next 79 days while the trump campaign meantime, continues trying to define vice president harris and the former president's case, posting. >> an a.i. created image on his social network of her addressing and imagined communist convention believe with hammer and sickle, soviet flag he's also now taken to calling her comrade kamala harris, and he's doing it on another day, republicans taking to the airwaves and what has become almost a ritual asking him to stop with the name calling his policies are good for america. >> and if you have a policy debate for president, he wins donald trump, the province of the provocateur tour, the showman may not win this election. >> the message is very clear. if you stick to the issues, if you stick to what matters, this should be an easy race for donald trump well, in fairness, the former president, he does

talk about issues and his appearances on the stump, sometimes even saying out loud that he's doing it, but that focus never seems to stick for very long. >> here he is campaigning in eastern pennsylvania yesterday, talking about a commentator, he heard argued that vice president harris has an advantage over him because in this commentators words, she is a quote, very beautiful woman she said i had never heard that one they said no, her biggest advantages that she is a beautiful woman. >> i'd gone i never thought of that i'm better looking than she is. >> lots to talk about tonight with their team and political professionals here. and john king at the magic wall first cnn's jeff zeleny joins us. what a final plans look like for this event. what's the enthusiasm level you're hearing among delegates? >> well, anderson, the enthusiasm is strong and the unity is quite high, and that's significantly different than just a month ago. both think of the shape of the democratic party then coming out of the republican convention, which ended exactly a month ago. today in

milwaukee. i've been talking to democratic delegates, party officials. they are just overcome with joy at this, a condition of their party. however, in the words of vice president harris, there's questions from reporters campaigning in pennsylvania and yet she calls herself the underdog she said that this will not be easy. i'm told that isn't intentional message that she is sending to really remind democrats that this is a tough race. democrats have sort of fallen into a sense of exuberance because they've been a bit down on their luck for some time. and the joy and the it certainly is valid in their mind, but she is trying to say no, no, there is a tough race yet to come. i am told that will be a theme of the convention. she's going to be talking about the work that lies ahead talking about the values that democrats must instill and try and get voters to galvanize behind her. but for now, at least in chicago, it is a celebration. it is a party. and tomorrow evening right here on the floor of the

convention, there is going to be a literal passing of the torch has president biden arrives here to the convention? no doubt will be welcomed as something of a hero in his party but then he will take his leave. it's the last time we will see him at the convention. and then this is her party, but i'm told that she wanted to be in this convention hall. she'll be watching president biden speech, and that will be the last we see of him. and then we see so much from her with a lot of validators trying to fill in in the blanks about just exactly who she is and what type of forward message she'll be bringing this first and biden speaking tomorrow on other nights, who is speaking? >> look, it's going to be a book end of former president's on a tuesday night, the second night of the convention, former president barak obama right here in his hometown of chicago. i'm told is going to be delivering a strong affirmation for harris-walz, a ticket he is going to be talking about the way forward for democrats often offering something of a roadmap, if you will, that's going to be followed by the next night on wednesday, former president bill clinton, i think we all remember in 2012 during the very difficult reelection for

barack obama, it was bill clinton and gave this validating message for why i've voters should galvanized around him. so that bookended message from those two former presidents certainly will be interesting, but also doug emhoff, he's going to be speaking on the second night of the convention also filling in some of those blanks about who kamala harris is? yes, she's the vice president. she's well-known somewhat among democrats, but not to the country at hole so i'm told that that is what they're going to try and use this week to do. it's really their last scripted week of the campaign to try and remind people what the democratic party stands for, but remind people who she is. but anderson, that is no doubt democrats are celebrating, but she's sending the message. there's a lot of work ahead. yeah jeff zeleny hey, thanks very much joining us now our political commentators from across the partisan spectrum, david urban, ashley allison, david axelrod, and alyssa farah griffin, david axelrod how encourage should democrats be? >> is there a danger of them actually being kind of too euphoric? >> yeah, i've been talking about this for some time. look she has made extraordinary

progress. we were all in milwaukee a month ago and, there was euphoria there and a sense that this race was over, that they were going to win by a landslide, perhaps sweeping big majorities in the house and senate and things have changed dramatically but this is still a very competitive race if the election were today, i'm not sure who would win and i think it may well be president trump because it's an electoral college fight. and in those battleground states, yeah, we were looking at national numbers right at the top of this program. that's a mean, it's misleading. >> i've said and i've said several times hear that for a democrat to win those battleground states, they have to have a significant lead in the electoral college. remember, joe biden won by 7 million votes nationally, nationally last time, a margin of 45,000 votes or 44,000 votes in the three closest battleground states combined. so she's right to be telling people, it's good to be

enthusiastic that enthusiasm is really, really important for the democratic party. but you have to turn that into energetic action in order to win the election that that's going to be part of what you hear here. >> it was how important do you think this week is for the campaign? >> what's huge, because heading into labor day, you know, kids are back at school, people are really tuning in to the election in earnest. and i think this is the time that if you don't know a ton about her you knew of her as vp, you're learning what the messages. but here i think you make a great point that the rnc was almost over-confident. donald trump was at a high point and they leaned into that in the messaging. there weren't a lot of, you know, entrees to independents and to moderates it's, we're watching democrats. i don't expect are going to make that same mistake. she says she is the underdog. she has everyone who's been on a democratic ticket before. she's got hillary clinton, bill clinton barak obama saying, there is room for anyone here if you're more of a bill clinton democrat, don't worry, i'm not too far out of the mainstream. you can it'd be with me. so i think they're really running a smart race in this should be a very big week

for her campaign, but donald trump's back out on the campaign trail after basically playing golf for a couple of weeks because i think he's feeling that she's got serious momentum and actually, i mean, this is a chance for vice versa harris to define her herself to a lot of people who maybe don't know much better. >> yeah you know, just to the excitement point, if you're organizer, it's a lot easier to make a phone call with excitement to convert that to a volunteer shift that then actually closes that gap and speaks to voters is which is what they're going to have to do to win this race because it is extremely tight, so it's a lot easier to do that and then from a depressed base is questioning whether that should even be the candidate. but on this point, i was looking at the main speakers. you have to remember there a significant amount of voters that are going to vote this election that weren't even old enough to vote for any of those people? well, that are speaking tonight and so they are really talking to the gen, the boomers of the population, the seniors and our party to say like, remember, our democratic party, this is

still who we are. and then they're going to have a maxwell frost, the gen z congress, person come and speak to the young people so they really are casting a whole conversation that they're going to have to do to talk to the big coalition to ensure that she can get it across the finish line. >> david, do think democrats are too optimistic, but listen, kamala harris and this campaign have had the best month in modern political history she's done, they've done an incredible job of kind of wrestling the nomination away from president biden and knocked everyone out of the out of the picture. >> she's had up until this past week where they stumbled a little bit with this rollout of her economic plan, which i think was probably not a smart idea to do it and advance this convention. i think it kind of cost of bumps in the road, but she's had a great run and to access point, they are still neck and neck, right? she said that she they've been flawless but at this point, and trump in that cbs poll, and the three top issues that americans care about the economy, inflation, and immigration. trump is up on

economy 56% people a favor him, 71% on the border, 61% on inflation so on those three messages that people care about the most in america that are telling us in the polls trumps delete. so if he can focus his message back on those things if we can right and if we can define we being the republican party can define kamala harris as the 2020 version of kamala harris, right? the progressive? left, bernie sanders, the gun taking away anti fracking, get rid of your health care. kamala harris republicans will do very well if we can't if she's able to define herself in a different manner at this convention, it's going to be a really tough race at a tough election. >> the problem you have is not the message, although we could quarrel about that, it's the messenger you're you know, alyssa says, well the president is going to be at former presidents can be out there this week i'm not sure that democrats here won't be happy to hear that because every time he goes out there he doesn't deliver a distilled focused

message. he goes off on some crazy jag that's all about himself and his own grievances. that name him calling and he's reminding people why they didn't like them in the first place. he in this washington post poll was 22 points, 21, 22 points underwater. when people asked to rate him as a person in their favor, she was in positive territory that could end up being the story of this race. >> your point was, as long as she's a credible alternative to trump yes. that's enough to get across. i will say this. i think the campaign, what you're going to see more four of its factory visits otrs, adopt donald trump is the king of the ota. you saw kamala harris do it today, go into the fire station, going to convenience store, can imagine him petting a dog but he's going to pet a dog. i'll mark my words. so jd briggs says on the campaign, have you seen those things really? the resonate with voters. comments are smart to do that. trump's gonna do more that i think you'll see that focus the message a lot more.

that doesn't give them an opportunity to take kind of go off on these longer, say he's been doing something smart by the way, by not taking the bait when donald trump launches attacks, talking about her looks, her appearance, whatever it may be it's kind of elevated it and i know donald trump, i know well enough to know he wants her to fight back. he wants to get in this back-and-forth in beit kind of elevating the conversation. it really plays to her favor, especially with swing vote especially because of the historical nature of her candidacy. it's likability is something that women candidates is a word that is often thrown as she's not likeable. you know, we don't like the way she looks and it's not a fair barometer. but in this instance is actually working against donald trump because he cannot remain disciplined and just really shows his true colors over. >> we've got to take a short break coming up next john king at the magic wall of what polling now suggests for more ways for the vice president to get the 270 electoral votes she needs to win and how tight these races are and the swing states. later, john's conversation in the republican voters in iowa who once oppose donald trump, would they make the democratic alternative? is there especially convention eve

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me for the magic wall so take a look, shows the different paths to 270 now that the landscape has changed just a remarkably different price, sanderson, the were just talking to last with the panel while we were in milwaukee, right. here's where we have the map right now. dark red is solid republican light red leans republican, same for the blues, likely solid democratic leans democratic. harris at the moment, 225 to trump's to 19th. in milwaukee job joe biden had won one narrow path left and that was when the blue wall states pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, and even if he did that, he would have to pick up nebraska's second congressional district and i can tell you that was the democrats only path in milwaukee and that was an unlikely path. half because we knew he was in trouble and trump was in control. harris right now can do that. you can see that in the state polling could see that in the return of african americans, younger voters, suburban voters, who were just leaving biden back to harris. you can see that path right there, but that's not the only path she has african american support has jumped as well, including african american women. so the

democrats believe tough, tough, but they believe north carolina would be in play. georgia biden was probably toast in georgia. they believe that's in place. now i'm not saying she's going to win all these. i'm just saying that you have there's one and nevada back in place so you can have a scenario which she gets well above 300 at the same time, these states are all very competitive as david urban was just. so let's just say, for example, you don't get all their american voters back in the young voters and trump wins michigan will look. harris still has opportunities right? if north carolina state's republican harris still has opportunities to but when it so the bottom line is that joe biden had won very narrow path when we were in milwaukee, kamala harris has 567 different ways you can get her to 70. that means donald trump has those two. but when you have those possibilities, anderson, it just changes the composition of the campaign. she can now target those states donald trump has to spend money in places but weeks ago didn't think he was gotten to spend money. we are in a brand new world john, i know a lot of our panelists have questions for his well, david axelrod. yeah. well, john there are states and

then there are states in most of the models that you see pennsylvania's that the tipping state. and it's 19 electoral votes so there's no other piece is there that can, you can simply swap out for pennsylvania if if a candidate were to lose pennsylvania, they would need more than one piece. certainly if kamala harris didn't win pennsylvania, she'd need to win a couple of other states in order to secure the to 70 without a doubt, the only one that comes close in this scenario here. so let's say trump wins pennsylvania, give him that right there. that moves him up right there, right. so that would still have are to 25 if you can somehow we tend to live in a national political environment. so if donald trump winning pennsylvania the blue wall states, for example, have voted together since 2004. they tend to go together, doesn't mean they will this time we're breaking rules all the time. but north carolina would be your best option there for getting close to that same number back, right there. but then you're fighting through there. but that's why david, if you just look at this, i just bring up the campaign ad spending a battleground ad

spending. this is forgive me for turning my back just since biden stepped aside and harris got in, look at how much more money is going into pennsylvania and any other state the campaign's agree with you, david pennsylvania's the most important one because it's a bigger basket, 19. so you can see that this is the campaign saying you're right, winning pennsylvania makes it all whole lot easier david urban, you know, pennsylvania better than most of you were there with the former president yesterday. john even more granular, right? you're talking about the states let's get down in pennsylvania to the counties because as you know, john, this is, this is kinda won a lost in several swing counties. we have erie county and my book right the north hamas it didn't lehigh and lucerne excuse me scranton area. lackawanna. so those four right? north hampton, eerie, lackawanna loser. what do you think? where do you think we should be watching? what do you think's most important there let me give you how i look at it and i'll give you another option. >> i tend to look at eerie i want to show you up here, northwest pennsylvania. look how close it was in 2020 donald trump won it in 2016. so i look

at every then you come over to north hampton county here. why do i look there? donald trump won it in 2016. joe biden took it back in 2020. there are only 25 counties in america too of them, right there in the commonwealth of pennsylvania, that barak obama carried twice, then trump won in 2016, then biden flipped back in 2020. there are only 25 of them all across the country. two of them in the commonwealth of pennsylvania. so i look at those, but to your point about the others, let's just look at one of them right here. this is joe biden's home county, lackawanna county, scranton. you see the margins pennsylvania won by 80,000 votes, right? you see the margin there in 2020, he wins it by eight. in 2016, hillary clinton won it, but only by three-and-a-half. so the margins matter if this one is if harris is close here, not winning it by a decent margin, that means trump's stronger in pennsylvania, if you will. so i'd watch the swing counties first, but no question. lackawanna lucerne also worked at the peak ashley you know, john, i'm all about building the coalition and i know that a lot of folks are interested in independent perhaps never

trumpers that harris can get over, but i'm wondering if there are particular constituencies like african-americans are the tino population, or even young voters that you think she can run the score up in a philadelphia or a pittsburgh or in a college town that could give her the advantage, even if she isn't able to pull as many independents over in this election? i am fascinated by never won. how does she matt you mentioned maxwell frost, a giant challenge that this election is to talk to young people, many of whom are motivated by the israel gaza issue. and our mad at president biden. and by extension now mad at harris here. so one of the questions here is the i was on college campuses a lot last time. i am looking forward to getting back out here. washington, our county. why a university of michigan, right? you move here more to the east wayne county is where you find wayne state university. does this convention, does she start to make a down payment on winning back those disaffected young people, many of whom are also people of color, either arab americans or african americans. we met on those campuses they've convention has a giant opportunity to begin that effort that's the

giant question she's in better shape. she's not in good enough shape yet to say michigan or some of these other places are a locked that's david urban's ban sound check dropped out the democratic question i want to ask you. >> i mean common wisdom tells us the top of the ticket, either boost or drags down ballot candidates. but there's this thought that now arizona and north carolina are potentially in play for kamala harris and republicans have to very polarizing candidates, kari lake in arizona and then mark robinson running for governor in north carolina is there a scenario we're having these candidates that have some major vulnerabilities could actually hurt donald trump's chances in those critical battleground. >> i think it's, i think it's a critical test, so let me just go to north carolina and use that an example. this is the presidential map in 2020, but you mentioned mark robinson, he's the rubble pumpkin candidate for governor. he's out there. shall we say? right? so why does that matter? look how close this was. look how close this was 49.9 to 48.6. so what the democrats believe is if you take trump and then you

take robinson and then you'd go here and here and you try to improve your standing in the suburbs, right? you try to improve your standing in the servers by saying they are so extreme. now, biden did pretty well in the suburbs last time. but if you just come into the raleigh-durham area here and you bring it out? come on for me. there you go. 62%. that's pretty good. move over to durham, 80% there. so the question is, can you boost those numbers? were the democrats are just a little bit more because the state is so close again, sometimes the tiniest margins make a different and sometimes a candidate out of the mainstream can help all right, everyone stay there, john. >> thanks very much coming up. why republican voters in iowa who wants to oppose trump are ready to vote for him. and what they think about the harris campaign it's momentum part of john king's all over the map series that's next we'll be right back he be on the edge, moments that shaped our culture coming this fall hold on cnn

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sketches slip is the harrison trump campaign's criss-crossed the battleground states are john king went back to the deeply red state of iowa, part of his all over the map series that tracks the 2024 campaign through the experiences of key blocs box of voters, is purpose, is to see why the republican voters he met there last year who were once critical of donald trump are now so comfortable supporting him and what they make of the reinvigorated democratic ticket. here's john's report shanen ebersole cherishes her maverick streak, not afraid to wander a bit from the hurt their lead buck going off like little boys wrestling that's their version of it. but now it's time to line up and bring things home i think it's an easy trump choice because we have to put the american people first i think that the policies that have been put in place in the harris biden

administration, they heard this they heard our land and they hurt the people in middle america. >> the most ebersole supported nikki haley in the iowa caucuses, a rare voice of republican descent and conservative ringgold county. she then gave some thought to voting third party because she cringes sometimes at trump's combative tone but her family and her farm come first and ebersole sees backing trump as the best path to reverse democratic trade and climate policies. she says, punished family farmers phil supermarkets with foreign beef. >> i can tell you that cow right there isn't better at carbon sequestration than anything else on the face of the earth. and when she does it she turns it into the most nutritious meat than we could ever offer when katla raise the right way, they help the earth, they don't hurt the earth. >> and washington doesn't understand that. >> they don't at all. they don't live here they don't ask, they don't.

>> if you want to see a 2024 race up close in iowa, the state fair is your best shot. >> are making burgers for debates over food here and games for the presidential campaigns are nowhere to be found their time and money is for the swing states. that's because trump is strong here. and not just in rural farm country this is cedar falls in eastern iowa midwest solar is busy in part because of biden administration, clean energy tax credits. but owner chris mudd is as loyal a trump voter as they come. >> i think if all i was selling was government incentives i don't think business will be very good but that's not what we're selling were selling the power to help people save money it must seize trump is off his game a bit since the switch to harris atop the democratic ticket, i think he spends too much time bashing and complaining i don't know. i think you'll catch his stride and i think that he will get back on his horse and i think he will say what needs to be sad and mud thinks the media is

too easy on harris and like trump, he sees no way harris wins and honest election. >> i just don't believe it's possible, john, i really i really don't. yes. i would think that i would think many like me would think that same thing if kamala harris gets 81 million votes something something really went. >> haywire. >> betsy sarcone, see such talk as a waste of time. >> i don't buy the stolen election if she went, she wins i'm not i'm not getting on that bandwagon. >> but that's sarcone plans to vote for trump is a big change. she backed haley in the caucuses. and when we first met a year ago about running carmel sarcone said she would vote for biden if 2024 ended up as a 2020 rematch. but grocery prices are still high, she says, and her real estate business is slow i would describe myself as being resigned. >> i suppose to voting for donald trump again, i just i can't vote for the status quo. and i was absolutely better off during donald trump's

presidency than i am today, right? >> i say kamala harris, you say i'd say far-left. >> i'd say woke i'd say sidestepping. >> i'd say not truthful sioux city is to the west where iowa meets nebraska and south dakota. >> attorney priscilla forsyth is happy to vote for trump a third time even though she too began the campaign, hoping for someone new cheers. >> i started with ramaswamy and ramaswamy, then i went to nikki haley now, back to trump, but i see kamel but and i see walz has been so far left that it concerns me i'm comfortable with trump. i wish we had four years of trump. we know what trump is. i'm not voting for him to be my valentine. i'm not voting for him to be my best friend forsyth isn't worried about iowa, but the past few weeks do have her worried. harris might win the white house in lawyer lingo. she says trump at the moment is

presenting the wrong case, focusing on his grievances instead of her record, i think he can win on the issues. she doesn't seem to want to own anything. she doesn't own the border. she doesn't own anything. i think right now he's off balance now, will he get back on track a loyal explorers fans and a loyal republican in a solid red county and state but at the moment, she thinks her candidate is struggling, just like her team and john king joins us now, it's so interesting. i mean, you that you track those people for so long and see that in the end, they'd have come back to the, to the form president. they see him as hard having a hard time adjusting to harris. do most of them do they feel that he will kind of in her words, get back on track there's a mix of feel that he will and hope that he will. >> now, three of those women, the three women and the piece, chris mudd, who lives here in cedar falls those area he's been a longtime trump supporter. the three women they're all voted for, nikki haley, right. but look at this

anderson, this is why it's different than other states. look at all that red iowa's a more conservative state, republicans tend to come home that's what they're doing. but as they watched this race, they see donald trump rattled all three of the women, think that he's been part rattled because he's running against a strong woman, rival. they want him to get back to the issues and away from the personal stuff chris mudd, who i said lives up right up near here for cedar falls. he's been with trump since the very beginning and he sometimes likes it when trump mixes it up. but what he sees here is everyone he thinks the media as being too soft on harris. he thinks she should be sitting down now for more interviews, he channels the same criticisms that trump and fox news do about her. but at the same time, he also says the president better focused on the issues and not he he thinks he thinks he will get there because he's seen him adjust before, but i can tell you if you're a little nervous in iowa, then that tells you a lot democrats in iowa are excited by the way, look at the margin that doesn't mean kamala harris is going to win iowa, but democrats finally say they have something to fight for two, and it is making a lot of their republican friends, at least a little nervous all right. >> john king, thanks very much

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this was a moment ago outside the convention area here in chicago protest the conduct security professionals and democratic officials are expecting to see this week and intelligence report recently obtained by cnn said that among the concerns of u.s security officials ahead of the convention were obviously protests, many of which are expected two to be over u.s. support for israel in the war in gaza. but officials are also of course, alert, on special alert in the wake of the assassination attempt on the former president. shimon prokupecz that's joins us now with more. so what do the security preparations look like out there a lot of fencing and this and i'm sure you saw it as you got into the united its center, you can see we're just outside the perimeter. >> the perimeter stretches over a mile, at least a mile. and there's just fencing everywhere you go here around the united center. i just want to show you anderson, this is where you are where you're said is, look how far that is.

that is where the united center is. and this is how far back they have place this perimeter. and it just stretches all around here for several blocks. what's also really interesting and i think kind of remarkable here that we didn't let's at the rnc is that there's actually people who live in the middle of this. most of the rnc was surrounded by businesses that were open and people will able to go inside biden hear a lot of the businesses that are inside. some have closed and people are actually living here surrounded now by all this fencing as the the convention here it gets underway tomorrow. this is what they're going to find. there's going to be homeland security officers, fbi agents are here and the secret service is in charge of the tyre perimeter here with the chicago police department on the outside, anderson i mean, what is the plan for dealing with? >> the protester they're not going to get anywhere near here. >> the protesters right now are fighting with the courts to try and get closer. they are i'm

gonna be able to march for about a mile. they say that's not enough that mile anderson actually, i'm going to take you back here. is all the way all the way down onto the other side. it's for blocks and blocks. they're going to be able to get some what close to the convention center. >> we may be able to see he and hear them, but it's going to be very difficult for them to get anywhere, anywhere near the perimeter of the convention right now, the protesters are saying they want to march, have more space to get closer to the convention center of the city right now is saying that's not going to happen. they're limiting how far they can yes. but we'll see what happens tomorrow at a press conference today. anderson, one of the organizers said we're what's going to dictate where we go and how we do things is by the numbers and the people but come out and they expect thousands, tens of thousands to come out. they say they're coming from all over the country to come here and to voice their concerns over the war in gaza.

gaza all right. >> shimon prokupecz, thanks very much joining us now, a national co-chair for the harris-walz campaign former democratic mayor of new orleans, mitch landrieu. it's good to see you here. first of all, just the protest. are you concerned about it no, not real. >> this is par for the course for every convention. and of course this is a really emotional issue for a lot of people the first amendment, critically important, everybody has a right to protest. they should, they should protest as loudly as they want, just the protest needs to stay peaceful. the last time you and i talked. >> i mean, this was a completely different race, completely different campaign. >> it was going to be president biden's convention here. he's speaking tomorrow night. what do you expect him to say? and i think you'll find that the folks in this building are going to show, but joe biden, how much they love him. they believe and i believe that he will go down in history as being one of the most consequential presidents. he's done more in three-and-a-half years and most presidents have done in eight years. and the fact that he made the selfless

determination to turn this over to a new generation of leaders will go down as one of really the most respected decisions at a politician has made. and i think you'll see that tomorrow night, there are a lot of people out there who don't know much about the vice president don't know much about her backstory how important you think that this week will serve to inform people how much policy is there going to be i mean, by end of this, what's the objective? >> what you've heard that thing you said it took me 40 year to get famous you know, act as a tell you that someday, this is a young woman, as you know, that grew up in oakland to an indian mother and a black father who is from jamaica who went to howard university, really was an excellent student. she was a district attorney. she was the attorney general, which means she ran the largest law firm and the united states in california as the united states senate, distinguish yourself and for the last four years has been a partner with joe biden in creating one of the strongest economies. we've seen a long, long time. so this is somebody who's got a tremendous amount

of experience, but these, these conventions are an opportunity as you say, to introduce yourself to the people who may not i've been paying attention to the things that you have done. >> the eu said she's been a partner to president biden. that's obviously the case it is difficult though. i'm the position she's in now is trying to i assume to some degree, trying to figure out how closely does she connect herself to the last four years and how much does she tried to define herself separate from? >> i don't think that that's hard at all. i was i was a lieutenant governor and are the two governors. and so i know what this is like. when you're a lieutenant governors, it's the person at the top that actually sets the agenda. and she was very much a part of the four major bills that he passed. we now have 60,000 projects, rebuilding roads codes, and bridges and airports and ports and waterways the inflation reduction act was something that she had a big role to play in terms of reducing prescription drugs, but she will be her own person. she will speak with her own voice and she will find issues

and she's not going to be afraid if she feels the need to chart her own course. i fully expect not make the country went expect for her to do that as well it does seem that the music's obviously pretty lab, but like a good band dance she has done something that i don't think anybody else has figured out how to do with the former president, which is not necessarily engage with on personal attacks like marco rubio attempted to do back in 2016 she's approached it with a kind of a laugh and it we're told vice president, by the way, is coming off the plane. internet gallego about that there were her husband beautiful thing but does it surprise you that she has sort of figured out something that no one when else seems to have been able to do, you know what it doesn't surprise me at all because as a black woman been used to have a guy like donald

trump just drag her down hard time can life it's just like this. >> all right. it's like nothing new, right? that's right. people are tired of donald trump. this is so old and tired, it's been going on in this country forever. and i think people would get really getting china tied. so when he i can't figure out how to pronounce her name, although he can pronounce a lens, he's name or whether and when he's talking to her about vienna dei hire, when in fact that she's got more experience than he and j.d vance together she's just like man, you know what this has been with us for a long time, which is why she sure. that the people in america ready to go to the future, not to put the past behind us. and let's see if there's something else better for us going forward. >> mitch landrieu, it's always good to talk to you. good, nice to see you. thank you. >> appreciate our panel with some final thoughts on what they'll be looking for when the convention gets underway tomorrow, we'll be right back there's fall comedy u.s coming to cnn. >> what could go wrong? i got news for you for me or saturday, september 14th at nine on cnn in a baseball

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text now the democratic national convention tomorrow at seven on cnn and streaming on max tomorrow night will see history made. >> a sitting president and winning the democratic primary will make the case for electing someone other than himself back now with the panel, it is i mean, when you just step back for a moment and think of what occurred of the last month. i mean, it's mind boggling. it's mind-boggling. and that president biden is going to be speaking tomorrow night at it would have been unthinkable a month ago? >> no. he very much was planning to be speaking on thursday night and it's going to be interesting, anderson, because on the one hand, you want to burnish those accomplishments that people do appreciate, and you want to

have her share in that credit, but you don't for her sake, he should not want to be making this a handoff and suggesting that this is going to be just a continuation of what you've seen because people are not in that kind of move. >> so just let me ask it in delicate question. in a campaign, i mean, who has final say over it's a very good question well, i was just telling a story to some folks earlier today, i was in charge in charge of working with the president clinton to make sure that we saw his speech and we did see his speech about an hour or two before he gave it but it turned out that he had memorized the other half, which was all great by the way, it was one of the great speeches he did everything we had hoped but you know, i don't know who is going to say mr. president, we really need to see your draft. >> there may be it may be an article of faith here and it'll be interesting to see because

this has been in some ways, it's been a very smooth transition to her as a candidate. in other words, there are clearly some hurt feelings and different the other night, there was a scrum when they were together and a reporter asked well, what if she differs with your economic agenda? and he turned around and barked at the report, said she won't that wasn't necessarily a great message. and if you further republicans? you've turned that into an ad. >> i didn't even notice that acts that was that was right on that. that was really just take your questions. go onto the helicopter with that martin sheen i'm that i have it memorized that's exactly what you're concerned about here, right? because kamala harris needs to run as her own candidate, not as an appendage of the biden-harris campaign, which she is she's she's tried to distance herself from the failures of this administration and it gonna be very difficult to do when the guide on bears here saying, great job madam vice president, here it is, take the guy on ford and stand next or so. it's very delicate

because he is the president. he has, served his country for very well for a long time. >> so you have to give him his due and at the same time, we can't knock her down in her campaign before it begins. it that that'll said, i'm sorry i just want to say i'm sure you'll hello. >> agree. he's going to get a hero's welcome here tomorrow night. and the fact that he was willing to step aside and the fact that he facilitated to be shamed not understand. but. >> not only separate, but named mean that was when i was going to make is that i think for whether you like joe biden or not, i think joe biden knows the historical moment that he is walking into tonight. >> not that he's just not running, but who is running and i don't think he will take it for granted and use it for selfish reasons. i hope not in moments that i have worked with the president he has been selfless. he has been he may have hurt feelings, but he has an opportunity. the reason why he ran for president because he saw something possible for this

country. he talked about saving the soul of this country. and i think the president can get up tomorrow night, re-introduce kamala harris to the world and say, there is so much more possible for this country to get one step. let's take it further and let her show the directions. but when you watch these conventions, you remember there's the people listening in the convention hall who want to hear one thing and they are going to, they're going to give him a hero's welcome. >> they love joe biden, but there's a lot of people who are tuning in about this new, young, energetic candidate. some gen z voters who weren't even thinking of engaging and they i need to see something for themselves. it's obviously by design, he's coming monday and he's taking off to get back to the white house, that there's going to be a stacking of other people who are the more forward-looking version of the democratic judge ears don't watch linear television as we know so the issue is, i think though that he was, he was he didn't want to go he was going kicking and screaming because he was a fearful the kamala harris couldn't win, that he was the only person that could win. >> remember that? i think that there was a massive irs has

seen it seems like it's been asked much more one interesting thing is, yeah, i think that maybe how he felt a month ago and now what it has happened in the month, i think he probably feels i think everyone feels a little a lot more settled. there's a stage back there behind that, even when joe biden is on stage, they're going to have tiktokers and instagrammers and people who are on eggs and stich and all the platforms that some of us aren't even on who will be translating what joe biden is saying to their audience. and so it's, you're right, they might not be watching linear, but they will be getting it in their feet. and if they do it right, i think it can land. >> thanks, everyone. the news continues right here on cnn and good evening. >> i'm erin burnett and welcome to a special edition of outfront tonight. harris is riding high hours before for she arrives in chicago for the