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we are back live in chicago for the third night of the democratic national convention just wrapping up with minnesota governor tim walz accepting the party's nomination for vice president of the united states and celebrating his small midwestern town sharing his journey from nebraska to the high school assistant football coach, teacher, national guardsmen and his newest role as the running mate of vice president harris and making the case for kamala harris and directly taking on donald trump and his agenda. >> it is an agenda that serves nobody except the richest and the most extreme amongst us. it is an agenda that does nothing for our neighbors in need. is it weird? absolutely. absolutely. but it is also wrong and it is dangerous.

>> walz had a tough act to follow with the legendary host, producer and activist oprah winfrey making a rare appearance earlier and making an appeal to voters who may be on the fence. >> i am calling on all of you independents and all of you undecideds. you know this is true. you know i am telling you the truth, that values and character matter most of all. in leadership and in life, and more than anything , you know this is true, that decency and respect are on the ballot in

2024. >> we are breaking down all of the night speeches getting your reaction this hour and in minnesota is here cheering on their governor with tim walz and what you make of his speech? >> it was phenomenal. i think the great thing about it is you felt him and heard him and he has a sweetness about him. >> just behind us the minnesota delegation is still clear from a few minutes to go and every other delegation is left in minnesota is still here

cheering them on. what did you make of his speech? >> the great thing about it is you just felt him and heard him and he has a sweetness about him. >> there was almost a mocking of trumpet times and obviously bill clinton was mocking how long he got up hannibal lector at his rallies but what you make of those tonight in this thesis? >> i think the truth of the matter is that donald trump will continue to show us who he is if left to his own and there is a wackiness and weirdness going on in that candidacy. i did hear from people around him that they see an undisciplined candidate who can't stay on message boards can help to go to the mean and degrading things and not the issues at hand. i do think the appeal to moderates is just to say, wait a minute, but get back to the pragmatic center of our country and get back to the things we know we can do together to solve problems and not this sideshow carnival barking

meanness that marks the trump era. >> do you think it's a more effective way to reach those voters to say they are wacky and weird then to how president biden was arguing threat to democracy? >> we all have our weirdness and i don't like talking down to anybody but the reality is they are trying to say this behavior is not the behavior you want to see in the white house. donald trump, his whole career has been modeled on what we don't want for president whether it is mocking, demeaning or degrading. nikki haley or chris christie's weight or john mccain's military service and a disabled reporter and it's not what we want. i know the weirdness is what we say a lot on our side of the aisle, but the reality is let's stop talking down about other americans and we are all different and it's what makes us a great country that the through line that is most important is all of those moderates out there and there is a guy in the senate that

deals in the caucus from joe manchin the bernie sanders and i think we have a perfectly set up structure now to begin to get people to the middle and fall problems. with immigration you have this right wing conservative langford and chris murphy a blue state democrat come together almost to the finish line and then donald trump said let's not do this it won't look good. that has to go. i want to get back to practical problem-solving and meeting people and that is what democracies are about and that is what walz mocked -- is about. it is time we get america back there as well and stop this craziness that donald trump is infecting like a cancer into our system dividing us as americans against each other. >> senator booker, thank you. back to you, jake. >> you can still hear the minnesota delegation and their raucous cheers and i don't think they have been this excited since the twins won the world series in 1991.

>> if we could hear you over the minnesota and chanting, you are learning that vice president harris reached out to governor walz before speech? >> the minnesota crowd is going crazy shouting we want him and having the time of their lives right now. as you know, the vice president wasn't in the arena tonight to watch her running mate tim walz gives big speech. she was watching from her hotel room here downtown chicago. her team has kept her schedule book clear, so she could focus herself on the speech she will be getting tomorrow night, working with advisors and also getting input from members of her family and so many of them are in town this week to support her at the convention. even though this is somebody who has been vice president for three and half years already, we are told that she is still going to use the

speech as an opportunity to introduce herself to the american people in her own voice. one advisor said she has been thinking through as she has been practicing in these final hours help every sentence would be received by the audience in this arena. one thing she did as you said earlier this evening was called governor walz and wish him good luck before his speech. we do have a video of that phone call. >> hello. it is kamala . how are you feeling? >> i am feeling great. how about you? >> good. you will be fantastic. >> i am ready. thank you for the opportunity. it will be electric and there and the messages this week are so great. so go down there can deliver a freedom speech. >> you can feel the love in that room and you know we haven't seen it everywhere we go and enjoy the moment. thank you. it is a good night and am looking forward to it. it will be fun. we will talk to you

when it's over. >> take care. talk to you soon. >> do keep in mind that the speech that governor walz ended up getting tonight was the speech that vice president harris was supposed to give herself even as of a month ago to accept the democratic party's nomination to be the vice president, but of course, everything so different now including the speech we saw tonight and, i have to tell you that that delegation is going strong from minnesota. they are going pretty crazy there and absolutely excited. you can see the faces and the cutouts of tim walz and they are screaming their heads off right now incredibly excited about the speech he gave earlier this evening. >> all right. thank you so much. >> the maryland governor, wes moore , how are you feeling? >> i feel great. the energy is great. >> is it true that you wrote that speech this morning?

>> something like that, yes. i think coming up this morning i realized what exactly will be this woman and we went back to the drawing board. >> from here what you want to see tim walz and kamala harris doing on the campaign trail? what they need to do? criticism so far is there hasn't been a lot of detail on policy and is that a weakness? >> i am not sure if that is fair. i think about the policies that the vice president just recently put out about the child tax credit and making a $6000 child tax credit could have the most profound impact on child poverty we have seen in his country. the idea that she hasn't put out an in depth policy framework, frankly i don't think isn't fair because let's be clear neither has donald trump and we haven't seen anything from a

real legitimate policy perspective from donald trump. what she is doing by continuing to roll out not sister values but also real details about how you get an economy that grows and one that is inclusive and how you make sure that on the foreign stage we are standing strong and respected that's how we make sure we invest in things like housing or how it will address the issue of wealth creation, these are detailed policy issues that she has laid out and donald trump hasn't. >> how is speaking in this room different than elsewhere you have been? >> it is interesting. they will say that surf through. >> that is the seed that? >> even when the crowd stirs up keep on going and ignore the crowd. it is difficult because the energy is palpable. people are just ready and they feel there is a real path to victory and i think that is what is driving people to say that not only do we have a real chance of victory in november but we have a chance to make or change the direction of our country in

a really powerful way. this crowd is powered -- fired up. >> we are learning how oprah winfrey plans to help democrats and next the response by jd vance to the speech of tim walz tonight. we will be right back . is is the day . will will will

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welcome back. we just have to very busy night in chicago with the official vice presidential nominee governor tim walz of minnesota accepting his party's nomination as he introduced himself to the american people in this truncated process. we will get reaction from the republican vice presidential nominee jd vance of ohio. thank you so much for joining us. what is your reaction to what you heard from your counterpart and from the democrats this evening in chicago? >> i think it is an interesting contrast before what president trump and i are offering. we are advancing policies that will lower the cost of housing, lower the cost of food insecure the southern border and raise

wages for the middle class and kamala harris can't run on accomplishing that because her policies have caused a lot of the problems and suffering we see in the country. what you see from the democrats is this argument that if you want to vote for donald trump because you want to change the direction of this country, you are somehow a bad person. i think that start message really doesn't jell at all with the idea that somehow the democrats of the joyful party. there are a lot of attacks on donald trump and criticism on what he is done and said and not a lot of positive vision for how kamala harris will fix the problems that plagued the country. >> there has also been criticism of you and pete buttigieg spoke tonight taking aim at one of your past comments from 2021 that americans that don't have children have "no physical commitment to the future of this country" and they want you to listen and get your reaction. >> you know, senator, when i deployed to afghanistan, i didn't have kids then. many of the men and women who went

outside the wire with me didn't have kids either. but let me tell you, our commitment to the future of this country was pretty damn physical. >> what is your response? >> well, my response is that pete buttigieg is taking a sarcastic remark that he made three years ago and turn it into something to distract from the fact that his leadership has seen higher transportation costs, fuel costs, and higher food prices for american citizens all over our country. these guys act so focused on a sarcastic quote i made that they ignore the fact that under the leadership of kamala harris, americans can't afford the basic necessities of a good life in this country. i do appreciate that pete buttigieg pretends to be offended by what i said but he should be offended by the fact that under his leadership of secretary of transportation, the government

can $8 million to build seven electric vehicle charging facilities at a time when americans are paying 45% more for the gasoline that transports them to work and that is what we should focus on and be talking about. it does illustrate my entire criticism of the democratic approach here. they are focused on fake issues instead of the real record. real record is that kamala harris has made this country poor and donald trump made the middle class richer and caused a lot of peace and prosperity to breakout in this country and all over the world. it is a simple contrast and i wish the democrats would focus on the issues. >> there was another comment i wanted to get your reaction on this evening and we heard about january 6, 2021 and videos of police officers getting assaulted and take a listen to what jd raskin said about you the other night. >> by the way, jd vance, do you

understand why there was a sudden job opening for running mate on the gop ticket? and they tried to kill your predecessor . >> do you have any reservations at all taking the opportunity to serve as the vice presidential nominee given what happened to vice president pence? >> no. not at all. i can't help but laugh at what he said. these are people who somehow always make themselves the victims. jamie raskin should be much more worried about the fact that there are a lot of americans that can afford to buy groceries or put their children in a nice home because of the policies he has implemented and what he is voted for. i just don't understand a person in american politics in 2024 who is whining about what happened to them instead of using their leadership and influence to

make the lives of american citizens better. i have no reservations about taking this job because i know that if we make donald trump president of the united states, he will deliver rising wages, lower prices, and a secure border. that is all worth it for me whatever the media or jamie raskin says about me. >> i want to play some of what governor walz said from his acceptance speech and get your reaction. >> it is an agenda that serves nobody except the richest and most extreme amongst us and it is an agenda that does nothing for our neighbors in need. is it weird? absolutely. but it is also wrong and dangerous . >> your reaction to that? >> when donald trump was

president, jake, you had people getting homes at record rates and young americans who could afford to raise a family and those who could afford the basic trappings of middle-class life in this country. winter malls said that donald trump's agenda doesn't work for middle-class americans, he was already president for four years and his agenda worked well for middle-class americans. and i would love for tim walz or kamala harris or anybody else to say that during the three and half years that kamala harris was vice president, here is the thing that she did to make groceries more affordable for the thing she did make it possible to help families or the things she did to secure rather than open up the border because they can't talk about her record. they are creating a phantom of donald trump leadership. the donald trump i know and the american people know i think produce really good results for the american people and a record to be proud of and a record i would like to get back

to because it was good for the american people. >> both you and president trump have suggested there is something wrong or illegitimate about the way that kamala harris replaced joe biden on the ticket and now that the democratic convention is here, you accept kamala harris, vice president harris is the legal nominee of the party? >> first of all, she is certainly a legitimate nominee of the democratic party. we will debate her and beat her in november but i think it is bizarre how the democrats went about this. for 3 1/2 years, kamala harris and a lot of democrats said joe biden was fit for the job which was revealed to be alive. when it became obvious that he was political that weight, they replaced him without casting a single democratic primary vote. and it doesn't make it illegal but it does make it a little bizarre and if i were a joe biden boater, i would be frustrated on the way this unfolded. >> before you go, quickly, cnn is reporting that robert

kennedy junior is expected to suspend his campaign on friday and considering endorsing donald trump, especially if he gets made secretary of health of human services and such. do you expect an endorsement and how much may it help? >> i don't talk to robert f kennedy junior. i certainly listen to what he says. i do think he is a guy who recognizes that the kennedy democrats of old have been replaced by the kamala harris democrats who support high inflation and open borders. i'm not surprised he feels left behind by the party and i think a lot of democrats elected like my grandparents feel left behind by the democratic family and i would welcome his endorsement of donald trump. i have seen the same reports. i don't know if it will happen, but i hope it does because i think it would be helpful because it drives home this idea that the democratic party of john f. kennedy is not the democratic party of 2024 and let's get

back to common sense. the only american leader running on common sense is donald trump. >> senator jd vance of ohio, thank you so much. safe travels, sir. >> tonight. thank you. >> dana bash, i would say that whatever one thinks about jd vance, he is a much more on message and has much more disciplined than that other guy on that ticket. >> i am not saying that that is the reason that donald trump chose him but he did choose him, a big reason, was because of how he does on television and making the case for donald trump for trumpism , which he has been doing since jd vance changed his mind about donald trump and supported him beginning in his own race for senate in 2022. that last answer about rfk junior welcoming him and trying to suggest that the party left the

kennedys, i am guessing, that will be a message we will hear more and more as they try to get that small sliver, but it will probably be an important sliver, in key states of the rfk vote -- vote . and even though it is one kennedy and most are supporting that ticket. >> the grandson spoke the other night. >> but his name is kennedy. that is part of the reason why he had support even though a lot of the people are supporting him. and maybe they know some of his policies but not all of them and they do know his name. >> i think the reason that jd vance is welcoming the kennedy voters and is because they are trump boaters and otherwise voting for trump . the reason from the beginning initially was to give voters a choice between two unpopular options, joe biden donald trump now that joe biden is out of the race,

the air has come out of that side of the balloon leaving the trump share. that is what the trump campaign needs to have back in this race that has suddenly become tight between these two candidates. there is no question that they are concerned that kennedy staying in the race will be the margin in some of these places where this election will be decided. it's not. it is disingenuous to suggest that these are necessarily kennedy democrats. these are people who are broadly unaffiliated and broadly disenchanted. maybe if there were no kennedy in the race, they would be leaning toward donald trump. those are the people that trump needs. >> there are two things with this answer. one is that

elections are a game of edition and in some of the states the margins will be so slim that sure it helps and i think i saw a poll of the current kennedy voters 50% would go to trump and about 25% to harrison 25% don't know where they would go and go somewhere else. the other point, obviously, is that john f. kennedy's democratic party was much more conservative. but also, richard nixon, when he ran against kennedy in 1960, that republican party was much more liberal than today's republican party. neither party is recognizable. >> rfk's father, robert kennedy, was probably much more in line with the democratic party today. i think that is a miss -- myth. he is running a campaign that gives people an option that is not the two major parties. he is running on a lot of conspiracy theories. >> i do think your question to jd vance about kamala harris and tim walz being the

legitimate democratic nominee will be something that we will look back on because we are listening to donald trump more and more talking about a coup and what went on that got kamala harris at the top of the ticket. we did see what happened in 2020 when he started to sprinkle breadcrumbs on the path to claiming a stolen election. >> how minnesota delegates react to the governors big convention speech and our coverage returns right after this quick break.

night three of the dnc officially in the books and the headliner speech was tim office he accepted the party's nomination for vice president and we will go to kaitlan who spent a lot of time with the delegation. what was the impression? >> i feel like an honorary delegate and we have been

hanging out with the minnesota delegation this entire convention. it just emptied out moments ago. this delegation in minnesota stayed long behind after every other states delegation left the building. they were here chanting every chant they could come up with with tim walz and vice president harris and we are standing right outside what you are looking at now as they were chanting and so excited clearly after their governor left the stage and it was palpable excitement there. we have all been watching this convention closely. i can tell you that also the former president has been watching closely and he just posted a post a few months ago ranting about the speech you heard on stage tonight from the pennsylvania governor, josh shapiro. he was saying even though trump was saying he is the best friend of israel and saying vice president harris hates israel even though last night about 24 hours ago and stage we were listening to her

jewish husband talking about how she makes brisket for them on shabbat, but he is watching this convention just as closely as everyone else. one thing i am told that has irked him and the campaign are the references you have seen almost every day to project 2025. you saw a state senator from michigan brought out an entire book she supersized about the proposal from the heritage foundation and we sought referenced tonight from the saturday night live start making fun of what a second term would look like and trump has repeatedly tried to distance himself from project 2025 even though dozens of his former staffers helped him play a big role in crafting it, but they have been watching closely. they are irritated by that. you are watching to see the enthusiasm and excitement generated by this convention about a month after his own

convention. >> we will talk to you a little later and i hope you get to go home after this. >> i am just going to sleep your. >> we have some new reporting. what you hear? >> there is no doubt that this has been a true line of every speech and every appearance here in our conversations with party leaders throughout the day but it was oprah winfrey's appearance at this convention hall and i was watching her off the podium as she was looking out into the hall before she came out and made a surprise visit. i am told she volunteered to be here at the convention and also told that the harris campaign said she would do whatever she can in the next 76 days or so. that is extraordinary. back in 2016, oprah winfrey didn't get involved in that campaign and didn't actively campaign for hillary clinton. she did back

in 2008 and that was her first foray into politics endorsing barack obama but that absence in 2016 is really another piece of reporting and lessons we are picking up. democrats view this race in an entirely different way because of what happened in 2016. so talking with the campaign chair earlier today, she is leading the campaign and she said complacency is the thing that keeps her up at night. as democrats had home and everybody is gone and minnesota's delegation is gone. tomorrow is the final day and vice president harris will still say that she is the underdog and then tell the democrats to get to work. an entirely different feeling here. it is excitement. but there is also worry about what could come next. >> thank you. and as michelle obama said, do something. i want to play a little bit from oprah winfrey's speech tonight . >> there are people who want you to our country as a nation of us against them, people who want to scare you, who want to

rule you or people who would have you believe that books are dangerous and assault rifles are safe. that there is a right way to worship and a wrong way to love. people who seek first to divide and then to conquer. but here is the thing. when we stand together, it is impossible to conquer us. >> the question is how involved will should become? she did campaign for kennedy obama 2008. >> i know she has been concerned about the state of democracy and concerned about rising hate and intolerance since -- and if she decides to deploy fully you have suburban women that she could get power

with and you have the black turnout. she could do both. you could send her to pennsylvania and michigan so if she decides to do it, she could do a lot. we also have to raise money. if you make her central to a fundraising effort, that will go well as well. i think what you see is somehow kamala harris, who was so underestimated, is turning out to be a magnet that you can build this incredible lay go transformer thing around from those like tim walz and oprah winfrey and i don't know how the republicans will fight this thing but it is fun to play with. >> calm down a little bit and let me say to you with the candidate and the team are saying to people in this arena. i am not sure if the election were tonight , donald trump

wouldn't win that election. john king will show you the map and these battleground states are battleground states for a reason and in many of them, she is not winning right now and she has had a good month. there is a lot of work to be done. it isn't a slamdunk. >> how do you see a surrogate like oprah? effective? not effective? >> honestly, now i will get package and i will say i really haven't seen the numbers or how people view her as a surrogate for a candidate in this race. i thought she was outstanding tonight and i loved the line about choose common sense over nonsense which in some ways is the tone of this whole convention and they are going at trump in a different way. >> she followed on a theme from several other speakers and she said as an independent talking to independents and pete buttigieg directed his comments to people at their kitchen table. you also have , and i

think earlier the republicans who said, republicans like us who believe xyz and tim walz at the end to say okay this is the part of the speech you should clip, save and share. there was more called action from the stage tonight. to hear it from oprah, i think it can be meaningful. >> i think it is important that people sober up when they leave and say we have a battle ahead and it isn't over. >> john, you have been looking at robert f kennedy and obviously he may drop out of the race and the impact of that. >> we have talked about him for months and about the prospect of this third candidate . we talked about tone wise kamala harris running against donald trump and a smaller field also and maybe robert kennedy endorses donald trump and i will make the argument that still helps kamala harris. this is 2020 and you see donald trump at 47% if you round that

up. you go back to 2016. donald trump is at 46.4% and the same number essentially even though turnout was bigger in 2020 and higher donald trump got the same number shy of 47. there is no evidence at least with the two campaigns but before us right now there is zero evidence that there is a majority support for trump or trumpism nationally or even a battleground states in 2016 when donald trump got michigan but only with 40% and he couldn't get to 50 and that was wisconsin and this was michigan when it was 40% he couldn't get the 50. let's drop down to pennsylvania. he got pennsylvania with 49% and couldn't get to 50. in 2020 in the same states he is at 49% and you do come out here and come over to michigan and this time he flipped the blue wall back at 48% then to wisconsin at 49% and that is close to 50 but not 50. what is the difference? in the 2020 campaign, the third-party candidates combined got about 2% and in the 2016 campaign,

the third-party candidates combined that 6% shy of 6%. that was a huge difference. one last point is that kennedy getting out and we will see what happens and we talked about this on your show, back in may i was raising the prospect of we have 819 92 campaign was a third-party candidate getting into double digits because he was at 9% and 10% in pennsylvania, 9% wisconsin and the other candidates will be low. here is where we were a week or so ago and we are using the exact same poll down to 5% in michigan and 5% in pennsylvania, 6% in wisconsin. this pole ended two weeks ago or 10 days ago and i have seen data since then that shows those numbers different but lower. robert f kennedy's numbers are going down and fundraising going down . he

will step aside. maybe he endorses trump from 2020 through 2016 the lesson is the fewer candidates the better the democrats and we will see if that holds this time. >> john, i have long adhered to the theory that trump has a high floor and low ceiling and the more third-party candidates and there, the lower the threshold to win favors trump. but when you look at these poles and what robert kennedy has lost, he is largely lost the democratic meaning voters who have come back into the fold. that leaves more of the right wing populist conspiracy theory folks who have gravitated to his candidacy because of anti-vaccine and so on. what makes you feel that those folks aren't going to gravitate toward trump? >> i think they would if they vote. they would gravitate toward trump. we met several in the campaign and i am thinking of him from new hampshire who was a trump supporter in 2016 didn't like the chaos of trump and heard robert f kennedy on the rogan podcast and a lot of

kennedy supporters listened and heard him and liked him and not just because of the anti-vaccine things but because as an environmental lawyer he thought polluters and the fishermen like him because of that and we did have genuine support who are disaffected from politics and thought he could help. if it gets trump from 46 that the 48, it isn't enough still. another point, when we walked out last night, i saw a young man with the howard university shirt on holding a jill stein sign in a state of michigan and even if robert f kennedy steps aside, jill stein has been working the palestinian community there and was a thorn in hillary clinton side and 2016 and kamala harris still may have to deal with her right there in 2024. >> and here look ahead at the convention finale tomorrow.

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neil young, who i believe told the trump campaign at one point to stop using that song and apparently no such problem with the democrats this evening. we are coming to you live and this just wrapped with tim walz and his family celebrating. we will get a fact check. what stood out to you? >> this was the second straight night where speakers made a very small number of false claims and i counted just two flat false claims on my they are important because both were on a central subject of democratic attacks which is project 2025 and conservative think take proposals -- hank proposals. here we can hear this. >> he has with his friends said

the quiet parts out loud but not only said them out loud but wrote a book about it, what is a called?'s project 2025. >> that is itself. trump didn't write project 2025. it is the policy document published by the heritage foundation think tank with dozens of people as authors and contributors and donald trump is not among them. a spokesman told me tonight that no candidate was involved with the drafting of the document. it is fair to say that trump has extensive ties to it and cnn has reported that more than half of those authors, editors and contributors work at some point in his administration but that is different than saying trump wrote it and we will play something that colorado's governor said about what is in that document. >> page 451 said the only legitimate family is a married mother and father were only the father who works.

>> that is also false. project 2025 doesn't say there is only one kind of legitimate family let alone say that families where mother works outside of the home is a legitimate. a heritage foundation spokeswoman, a working mom herself, said that that claim is a lie. the page that with mentioned expresses a preference for a certain kind of family, families comprised of a married mother, father and children are a foundation of a healthy society and criticizes biden policies that supposedly subsidize single mother -- motherhood but nowhere does it say a family is not legitimate if the mom has a job. >> daniel, thank you so much. let's talk about one of the most powerful moments from the night. and that is when gusts walz -- gus walz stood up

weeping so happy and proud he was of his father and said that is my dad. that is my dad. let's to show this. >> i am letting you in on how we started a family because this is a big part about what this election is about. freedom. >> that is one part of it and there was another part that he stood up after he said something and said that is my dad. that is my dad. the family has opened up recently about the learning challenge that he has and it doesn't really matter in terms of how moving that moment was but it is an important part of the context of the story. >> it is. i just pulled it back up and the family spoke to people magazine and told them about their son gus having what they call a nonverbal learning disorder in addition to an

anxiety disorder and adhd, conditions that millions of americans also have. >> i think it is time to leave the club. >> going back to gus. the other thing that i find so heartwarming about him is that what tim and gwen walz have said is that it turned out that what could be something that would very much sidetrack anybody was there superpower or is his superpower because he feels things and sees things and he recognizes and recognizes situations that may be other people who don't have this get to recognize and we saw that tonight. he was so

hyper proud of his father. and any kid would be hyper proud of his father, but he wasn't afraid to show it. it was a remarkable moment. >> it is a superpower and what a contrast with donald trump, who has been known to openly mock a disabled reporter and according to his former chief of staff, john kelly, he expressed discomfort about being around disabled wounded veterans and quite a different republican party than george w. bush who signed the americans with disabilities act years ago. >> i think that the walz family, like so many american families, they have a lot of challenges. they have challenges getting pregnant and challenges with their son's learning disorder as described there and that people magazine piece. i think that is incredibly relatable to a lot of people. i was also watching

gwen walz a lot from the stands. she is such an interesting character. we didn't really see much of her on the stage and she was in a video or 2. she seems ready and willing to roast her husband in a kind of jovial what -- way. >> as the data on the panel, i will say that that is relatable. >> i think it is very normal. the one thing i have noticed watching this is so many republicans are frustrated that the attack on tim walz have not worked in the way they had hoped and there have been negative things that have come out, but they haven't pierced the persona he gives off broadly to the american public. >> looking ahead to tomorrow night, we have learned that pink has been tapped by the dnc for a closing night performance in the main event on the final night of the commencement will be vice president kamala harris presenting or accepting her

nomination on stage and you will see it all live on cnn and stay with us as we pick up the coverage right after this break.

that was zero and 27 into state champions it's the honor of my life to accept your nomination for vice president of the united states we've got

something better to offer the american people it starts with our candidate, kamala harris well, highlights from night three of the dnc. as the clock strikes midnight right here in chicago. the delegates say the slipper fits the coach. i'm laura coates inside the united center with cnn's continuing coverage of this historic convention in an arena that has seen some of the greatest players of all time. tonight, they want you to focus on the coach their coach. minnesota governor tim walz, the flannel wearing former teacher and veteran minnesotan, walked out on that stage to accept his party's nomination as the vice president. forget the

similarities between the midwest princess hat. make way for the midwestern dad and as proud dads do you know what he began by doing? telling his kids he loved them. that's his son, gus becoming emotional after hearing his dad say those words while standing on the biggest stage of his life. for many, walz came out of nowhere and we minnesotans will try to get offended when you think that the gps says nowhere when you go to minnesota. but another day. but for many people, even a governor and former congressman seemed unfamiliar. when kamala harris picked up the phone and called the minnesota governor and asked him to run with her, she told the governor of the home of the golden gophers that they were in fact, underdogs and tonight, walz delivered that message in a way some say only a former high school football coach could it's the fourth quarter.

>> we're down a field goal, but we're on offense and we've got the ball we're driving down the field and boy do we have the right team. kamala harris is tough. kamala harris is experienced and kamala harris is ready. our job our job our job, our job for everyone watching is to get in the trenches and do the blocking and tackling one inch at a time. >> one yard at a time one phone call at a time. one door knock at a time one $5 donation at a time we got 76 days. that's nothing. there will be time to sleep when you're dead. we're going to leave it on the field all right, i guess. >> no sleep is coming to the rest of us. joining me now is cnn political commentators david urban, karen finney and jamal simmons, and senior

political correspondent for the wall street journal, molly ball. okay, so he already told us none of us are sleeping. we're all alive right now. and you know what this united center was alive. it's been alive. and frankly, a palpable energy for the last three days. but now the coach took to the field this being, of course, the united center, by the way wasn't there a show once called coach and it was minnesota state, a fictional actual university? yes well, this coach is now a nominee. >> yes he is. he did a beautiful job. i mean, it was a wonderful night. again, a lot of joy, a lot of talking about kamala talking about our vision as democrats, where we want to go from here. um obviously having worked for him, love to see bill clinton. um, but you know, coach walz, i think his son almost stole the show. >> he was just it was even david urban could appreciate a crying son. >> no don't go there. i'm not look, i like look, it was a good night, right i love a bill clinton is, uh, you know, is is

an icon in politics. interestingly, though, i'm not sure that the democratic party of bill clinton, the same democratic party of today. >> oh it's a little bit different, but in what way do you think? i think it's, you know obviously it's a lot more progressive than when bill clinton was around. bill clinton's more of a dlc kind of democrat. more, more traditional blue dog, if you would you know, um, but necessarily exist anymore. but but still, it still is a big night for democrats. a lot of energy in the room and and look, you do what you have to do. these are, these are these are base events to motivate the base. was the base motivated yes. and so people are going to have to leave here. and look i like the coaches analogy you're down three still right. that's that's what i think you are. you're down three. uh kamala harris has had the best 32 days, 33 days. now in a few minutes right of of, uh of campaigning. and she is still down and, and i've heard this cautionary tale from from hillary clinton, from barack obama, from president clinton today and from the coach, like,

you know, donald trump is is no joke like, now we got to go out and fight the fight and win but so it's it's tough. it's going to be tough. what i do love though about what we've seen over the last couple of days, because remember a convention is really a narrative arc over four days. our party is big enough for a bill clinton for a michelle obama for coach walz, for stevie wonder for you know, i forget the name of the dj who i love so much, cassidy, dj cassidy right? and i think that's part of what we're trying to show here, is that this is a very diverse party, and you heard tonight from tim walz something you've heard over and over again it's okay that we're different. we don't we can be we can disagree without being disagreeable, which was an old clintonism right? that it's all right that we're different. and we may have we can disagree. and yet there's still enough for everybody that we're better,

because i'm sorry, but we're better because we're different. not just. it's okay. right? can you make a good point? but we're better because of it. and this is the part about america we can compete with any country in the world, david, because we've got the best people in the world from all over the planet they come here, they fight for what they have to fight through to be able to get there. but there is a party in our country that doesn't want them here. oh, it's a problem in our country that says, you can't, you don't get to come. and if you come, you don't get to, you don't get to participate so we're going to do mass deportations unless you come from mass, unless you come from an. >> i want to i want to come from an country then you don't even get to come legally. no, no. that's what the last guy i want to hear from both. >> hold on a second. just so we know there's supposed to be a good vote. we had stevie wonder earlier today so i want you all to feel your part time lover all the way. ribbon in the sky. i need to have some more. not signed, sealed and delivered his election. look, i'm telling you, first of all, stevie wonder. no, in fact, was my very first concert. so my musical direction is always intact. >> hello. >> i want to hear from molly quickly before i go back to david on this point because this is the issue when we talk about those parties and there is the middle class, one of the

big unifying moments of both parties seeking to have that coveted base as well. more broadly, i want to listen for a second, molly, to what he had to say. coach walz as they say about the middle class and what he thinks kamala harris as president could do for them listen if you're a middle class family or a family trying to get into the middle class. kamala harris is going to cut your taxes if you're getting squeezed by prescription drug prices. >> kamala harris is going to take on big pharma if you're hoping to buy a home, kamala harris is going to help make it more affordable and no matter who you are kamala harris is going to stand up and fight for your freedom to live the life that you want to lead the economy stupid right? did he make the case or is this a reality or a vibe check. >> it was more vibes than it

was details, but that's been the theme of this whole convention. i mean, i think to karen's point, we've seen a sort of progression over the course of these three nights where the first night centered around joe biden was very much about what's being left in the past the second night, everybody here obviously loves the obamas, but they are themselves kind of a nostalgia act. and we didn't see a lot of the new talent of the party until tonight. and so this felt like the first night that was really about the future where the democrats were really pitching it forward where you heard from a lot of rising stars in the party, right? the governors who are so promising. josh shapiro wes moore, the transportation secretary pete buttigieg. so this is really about the future of the party. the bench of the party and culminating in coach walz, who, as you said, is such an unknown quantity to so many americans. but i think you could really see in that speech what kamala harris saw in him, why she picked him when there wasn't an obvious political calculation for it, but because of that regular guy appeal so to your question was he giving a policy

laundry list? was he doing a bill clinton speech where he tells you the ten points of the platform over and over again for an hour and a half? no. he spoke for 17 minutes. it was tight but it was about being your neighbor. it was about being relatable for a democratic party that a lot of people worry is out of touch with regular folks, particularly in middle america. this was about saying to people if you are from a small town, if you are someone who just wants to live your life and be left alone this is a party that can speak to you as well. >> well, there's an interesting moment, of course. here we are in chicago. we focused a lot, obviously, on the hometown welcome for the obamas but i mean, this is oprah's town and oprah. i mean, it's oprah's town, i don't care. >> i was on the floor when she came out. i swear to god, you could feel the floor shake. >> it was it was oprah's town. i'm just saying i mean, she spoke tonight and when she spoke, she was taking the stage to make the case against trump to persuadable voters as well, which is a part that needs to

happen if you're talking about outside of the convention hall. listen what she said i'm calling on all of you independents and all you undecideds let us choose the sweet promise of tomorrow over the bitter return to yesterday we won't go back we won't be set back, pushed back, bullied back, kicked back. >> we're not going back david, i mean, you know, there is a group of republicans who are disenchanted and that's being nice when it comes to the trump trump/vance ticket. >> they have been for quite some time. there are older republicans who think they can't recognize the party at all and so you've got democrats and republicans trying to appeal to the persuadable does this convention or the platform as it is right now, make you a little nervous as a strategist about how to course correct? >> no, not at all. he was never

going to no, no, listen, i tried to say no, this is the honest truth. >> people say, how do you feel? i'm like, i actually feel pretty good. after beating the convention. listen, james carville, once famous, and i'm just talking about pennsylvania because that's all i could talk about, right? with any any sense of authority. carville described pennsylvania as philadelphia and pittsburgh with alabama in between. there wasn't a whole lot of this convention appeals to people from alabama. >> kaitlan collins is here. so that's fine. okay but my point being is, you know, the coach is there a little bit try to be coach, right. but there's not a lot of bass pro guys out here, right. a lot of bass pro on that stage. this this party needs a little more bass pro if they're gonna win those people over and that's what that's what i didn't see to molly's point about, you know, can you speak to those people in middle america? we'll see if coach can speak to those people. that's his mission. that's what he's got to do. if you're going to win, because you got to expand that base. you know, trump is everyone said it's going to be a tough race. it's going to be a tough race. and so again, after the biggest 32 days in political history of having a

great first start, we're still dead heat leaving here tomorrow. it's going to be a dead heat on friday. excuse me. and you know today we had listen the economy had a terrible jobs report today, right? the the downward downward estimate of close to 1 million jobs that weren't created during the past year in the biden-harris administration gina raimondo, when asked about it today, she wasn't familiar with it. she's the secretary of commerce right. unemployment is at 4.3%, the highest it's been since 2021. 11%. credit card defaults, the highest it's been in. i think, since 2009. so the economy isn't great and people feel that in their pocketbooks at home. and we're going to leave here with this great sugar high and this hope. and then people are going to have to pay their, their bills. and so it's going to be tough. it's going to be a tough race. >> but what we know is at the end of the day, it is going to be obviously about a choice, but a choice about who do you trust, who do you trust is going to be the person who will help continue to try to lower your costs who sees you and

understands those kitchen table challenges. and that's part of what democrats are trying to talk about. and look, i think president clinton made a really important point. donald trump talks about himself over and over and over again he has money. he's not hurting. i mean, he did a whole event in front of a, you know groceries. what was he ever in a grocery store? so he gets told about it. maybe he talks about it but again, i think part of what this convention is about and part of what i think the next 70, almost five days is going to be about is who can you trust to be the person that's going to get up every day, think about you, think about how to lower your costs. and also by the way, don't be afraid of people who are focused on the middle class who want to bring you health care but your point, karen, remember, it's a vibe election, right because as you pointed out, mollie, there weren't a lot of specifics in this. >> right? and so kamala harris and the teams are going to have to fill in specifics as they move forward. you know, it's a little light on specifics so far. it's been a vibe election. and the vibe about

the trump years was trump years were good for my pocketbook. it was good for my pocketbook that's the vibe. so you're not hold on. >> go ahead real quick. real quick what are the what are the trump specifics thank you. trump specifically trump's mass deportation. no, no. hold on. no no no no. the specifics about the economy are i'm going to cut regulation. we're going to increase energy production. you like what we did before when you when i was president, we're going to do it again. what does your pocketbook feel better. people looked at their 401 k's. there weren't brackets around them. they felt better. it was a vibe. they felt that's exactly what they're feeling now. so it's interesting when it's when it's trump, it's a vibe. no, no. democrats you want specifics? >> no, no i'm saying it's a vibe still to jail. no no no no no no no. >> for weeks we've been talking about the macro economy and jobs. and you guys told us that stuff didn't matter. now today you want to tell us that that stuff matters. the ball keeps moving. here's the thing. >> here's the reality people are out here. people are out here tonight and they know that kamala harris and coach walz care about them. they know that they care about their freedom. the one word you heard every single time tonight is about freedom and americans want to know that somebody wants them

to be able to live their lives without having the government in their bedrooms, and the government telling them what to do. >> oh, i'm all about. i'm all a libertarian. i'm all about that, i love it. >> listen, tell your guy, tell trump he made him over, okay? during the break, these two are going to arm wrestle or braid each other's hair. one of those two things will happen. stand by everyone, let's head right to the. let's head right to the cnn political grill, where harry enten has been holding down the fort. harry, i got arm wrestling in here. what's going on over there i heard you caught up with the head coach of the high school football team. where walt was. >> i absolutely i absolutely did. let me just tell you the vibe right now at the cnn grill is, to quote buster poindexter, hot hot, hot and earlier on today, i was able to catch up with that head coach of that 1999 state championship team, rick sutton. let's take a listen talk to me about how tim walz was. >> and as an assistant head football coach well, you see

tim on stage, you see tim at any kind of events. >> and that's the tim that that i've always known. uh, extreme energy kind of guy that walks in a room and he's totally engaged with whoever he's in contact and conversation with. uh, just a guy that as a coach was, uh you know, very much involved with, uh, developing relationships with players, which is extremely important. >> yeah. you know, when i was played football as a youngster, i played baseball, you know, high school sports. we had players, coaches, and then we had sort of tougher coaches. how would you describe governor walz as sort of a coach um, i think like most of us, tim was able to do both. >> if you had to put him in a category, i'd say more of a player's coach. uh, as the head coach, i was more of the discipline disciplinarian, you know, just kind of the roles that you take on, uh, but you know, tim was able to, uh look at and transfer, uh based on the situation, the kind of coach they needed to be. >> hey, you guys want to state championship in 1999? i do believe that is correct. >> that season didn't necessarily get off to the fastest of starts how did how

did he deal with adversity under pressure when maybe things weren't necessarily going the way that they should have been? >> one of the things that we talked about throughout that year is as the season started poorly, was just staying the course, uh, understanding that, uh, you know, we had the potential to, to become a good football team, uh, to, to maintain the positivity. and, you know, that's one of tim's biggest strengths is his positive energy just let me know when we're done you know, you know, let me just say this much. >> this guy knew a ton about football. i think tim walz knows a ton about football. and is a huge buffalo bills fan. my only real hope is maybe the two of them can team up and the bills can finally win a gosh darn super bowl. maybe once the other thing i will note laura coates live, is this is going to be a whole sports theme hour. stay tuned. later on, i'm going to play a little bit of cornhole with the pod save america bros. you're not going to want to miss that one, are you kidding me? >> you get to do cornhole. are you kidding me? i love it, there's actually a cornhole national championship i've

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kamala harris the president of joy to lead us oh. >> poor guy. >> well the 42nd president, bill clinton leaning on his folksy charisma during his speech at the dnc tonight it was clinton's 13th consecutive convention speech. he gave his first 1 in 1976 at just 29 years old. but for this convention, sources say clinton ripped up his speech after watching opening night on monday, inspired by what he saw as joy and youth on display. well, tonight clinton laid out in stark terms the choice before voters so in 2024, we got a pretty clear choice. >> it seems to me kamala harris, for the people and the other guy who has proved even

more than the first go round that he's about me, myself and i my panel is back with me. >> let me go to you on this molly, because he has been portraying this split screen as, frankly, many of the speakers have between a trump and a harris. the idea of narcissism versus public service. did he help to make the case? >> i think so, i mean, i think the old guy's still got it right. it was funny to watch. i was in the hall while he was speaking, and you could see the teleprompter at some point just stopped because he wasn't using it. now he was reading to your point when he ripped up the speech, it must have been too late to get it on the prompter because he was reading from a text that was on the lectern. but you could hear, you know, his voice isn't what it once was. and sometimes he was a little halting, and he'd get to that point in a sentence where you're a little on edge. and then he would see it through, and he would make the point. and so i think he really did bring that that folksy appeal he talked about twice as long as the actual vice presidential nominee. but you

can see why they're still having him speak at conventions. >> and in fact, jamal, at one point, he was mocking the relationship that trump has with world leaders obviously, the presidency is going to be very important at a time when you're thinking about foreign policy, wars, invasions and beyond. listen to what he had to say president what are they supposed to make to these endless tributes to the late, great hannibal lecter i mean, president obama once gave me the great honor of saying i was the explainer in chief. >> folks, i thought and thought about it, and i don't know what to say it's interesting especially because as a woman who would be the nominee, there have been many who talked about how world leaders might view her. >> he's talking about the idea of the absurdity of the reference points does this

work? >> yeah, i think people think that this hannibal lecter thing is weird. yeah it is odd i mean, why, clarice, tell me more you know, so listen, you know, i met i met karen back when we both worked for bill clinton, when we were basically children and and he cares about this stuff, about going around the world and the american reputation. and this is something that i think every other american leader took very carefully and when you go back and you think about the trump administration, you've got north korea and putin and these you know, these odd relationships that that the former president seemed to have when the rest of us are interested in nato and developing nations that were trying to encourage to grow and expanding trade and opportunity while the while donald trump wants to create trade barriers, it just seems like it's an odd mix for us to want to go back to a guy whose policies will take us in a bad direction. >> when biden took office, his famous statement was also secretary of state antony

blinken. we're back, right? he kept saying, we're back, we're back. this had some feel of that as well. is this enough, though, strategically, to convince voters particularly those who might be on the fence about where to direct their energy to one candidate or even the couch well, i'm going to let the couch sit for a minute um look, you know why? >> go ahead. yeah. >> look aly vance, that's part of the case that vice president harris will make tomorrow night. she will have to lay out the she is the closer, if you will. >> right and she is the person who's going to have to take the these last three nights culminated into not just all this excitement and the balloons that we can see up there that are ready to drop. but getting people to the polls and so, look, i think that we are back argument is an important one because i think most of the folks who believe in nato and those alliances believe the world is safer when we're not aligning ourselves with putin and north korea. >> what do you think, david?

how does the foreign policy element serve or hurt the trump campaign so generally, people don't vote on foreign policy. >> i mean, election after election after election, poll after poll, nobody foreign policy is not in the top 20 things even now. even now, people don't care about the top 20 things. it's not there. i mean, just look at the polling in every poll doesn't show up anywhere, right? i mean it just doesn't. factually, the economy, what i what i would say is, look, bill clinton did a masterful job i think he's he's very good at what he does. i like the fact that he's his voice is a little quieter. i think people pay attention when you're not yelling at the top of your lungs. i think he was he was very persuasive in the things that he said i would say to the detractors about trump's positions on those things, the response would be um, uh, there were no nuclear missile tests from the north koreans. i thought putin had, you know previously invaded ukraine and then stopped those four years of the trump administration. no further incursions. >> um hamas and hezbollah were not launching missiles into israel at the time. iran was

kind of quieted. and so the world order was a completely a little bit more peaceful during those four years of the trump administration, our nato allies paid their fair share towards nato during the most recent davos meeting, the nato leaders looked around the table and said look, trump was right. we need to we need to pony up more. we need to pony up more than our fair share. if we don't defend nato. this was a donald trump saying this. these were nato leaders saying we should be responsible for taking care of ourselves. i don't think it's fair to ask people in any state in america to pay more than a nato country is paying. if norway is the richest country in the world, what trillion $500 billion sovereign wealth fund? they're not meeting their nato commitment. why should we care? well, we'll have to see how the voters view it. do they look at this as the culmination, or do they look at this as the president of the united states dictating all the behavior we see around the globe, really important conversation. thank you to all of you. so much. listen, as we mentioned, vice president kamala harris is getting ready to deliver the biggest speech of her political life. so what should we expect? well, one of her allies joins me next on

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tonight, cnn's learning that she spent today focusing on that speech focusing on how the audience will receive and feel every line. i want to bring in one of the vice president's allies democratic congresswoman from california, sydney kamlager dove. congresswoman. so happy to have you here. you've been in the audience watching all of this unfold. it is all leading up to her speech. what do you think she needs to address to really seal the deal for the voters who already support her but also bring in more to the fold oh, i think she needs to just finish reintroducing herself to the country. >> right. this is a a woman who is the child of immigrants, a biracial woman someone who's broken her own glass ceilings in my state of california someone who is part of a blended family. this is a blended nation. i think she needs to talk about the hope and purpose of her candidacy and of our fight for our freedoms. >> we talk about introducing

herself. there are those who are eager to hear more granular detail about policy and then there are others. think about introduction, meaning, one's identity and as a black woman that she is, there will be a huge focus and there still has been on her race, on her identity as it relates to that. should she lean into those topics as well, or should she focus more broadly on the politics? can you distinguish the two? she can do a little bit of both, right? she can talk about the diversity that is the party, the strength of our immigrant community the fact that so many of us, i mean, the census says, you know, 13% of us identify as being biracial or multiethnic yeah, she should talk about that. and let's celebrate it and then talk about the bread and butter issues that she has started to talk about on her campaign her economic plan talks about that. right childcare, housing medical costs. you know, those are the things that are weighing americans down. and she's got a plan for that when talking about the plan some praised her

economic plan others panned it. >> there is an expectation that as the part of the incumbent administration and as the nominee she has got to have the details when they talk about donald trump, many look at him as being reactive to details that she gives a double standard. so to speak. what do you think she should do to? on the one hand, please, those who want that specificity and others who are looking at a more broad statement about policy, well, i think we need to go back to what michelle obama told us, right no goldilocks complexes here. no one is perfect and we are not waiting for us for for her to have an answer to every single question. the details are going to come. who she's going to put in her cabinet that's going to come, you know drilling down on some of the granular issues around policy, economic policy per state, that takes a while to unravel. right now, she's got to galvanize this country. we have to make the energy and the momentum coming out of this convention translate into action mobilization. and then

voting plan so that we can win. >> one thing we heard from oprah today was about the idea of the persuadable voters. obviously conventions are going to have a preacher and choir vibe but you got to go outside of that to get that 270 and that includes a large swath of america that might not be as covered in the national media, but there are persuadable voters of republicans and democrats and those who might not want to participate at all in the elections what do you think your voters or constituents want to hear and need to hear, to be persuaded that they've got to vote and vote? you think for her? >> well, i don't know that they need to hear anything extra. i think they want to talk. and i think we have to listen. barack obama said that. we have to listen. we have to stop wanting to be the oppositional instead let's find the opportunities right for common ground. and that only happens when you stop talking and you start listening to your neighbor. let them get all that angst out, and then they'll tell you what's really

on their mind. and then you talk about the policies or the hopes and dreams, or how you can work together to achieve that. but democrats, we need to do more listening right now. >> well, many of us are listening to personal attacks against the vice president of the united states, and she'll have a chance to and a choice of whether she wants to talk and address them should she no, i mean, i still think she has to keep it high. >> this is high level. she's a woman of integrity. i think she has to expose her vulnerability, her charisma how personable she is and how she cares about each of us. i mean, i have my own stories about her checking in on me wanting to make sure that i'm doing well when i was in the legislature. and now that i'm in congress. i love the stories that doug shared about her taking time to talk to her step kids. i mean, you know, as a step mother that is incredibly important. those are unsung heroes so i think she needs to lean into that. humanize this woman who is going to be the leader of the free world you indeed have

talked about these issues so often, and i'm so glad you extend that passion in every conversation we have. >> thank you so much congresswoman. thank you well, democrats are playing up joy and also freedom and trying to tie trump to project 2025. next, my conversation with colorado governor jared polis, who says the democratic bench is far beyond what the republicans have to offer democrats welcome weird. >> but we're not weirdos. telling families who can and can't have kids who to marry or how to live. >> our lives it's a lot to be a caregiver and a daughter, bec take a step back. >> she's a tough chick. she doesn't want to ask for help, but i know she needs it. my mom feels i'm her daughter and i should be able to do for her

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they want to take us backwards, but we aren't going back like ever ever, ever colorado democratic governor jared polis speaking tonight using obviously taylor swift to declare that democrats won't succumb to project 2025. >> he's emerged as a straight talking attack dog for the vice president. and i spoke to him earlier at the cnn, politico grill after his speech well, i'm joined now, of course, by governor jared polis. >> i'm so glad to see you today. this has been quite the exciting time. this convention many people would not expect this to have been this way a month ago. everything has changed. what has been your assessment of how the democrats have done? trying to convince voters that they are the right ticket? >> i think they really have put together a really thoughtful, cohesive convention so far. i mean, starting of course, tribute to joe biden thanking

the man for the work he did, his transition to leadership. now leading up to his leadership of the future. right. bringing in different voices, mainstream voices, really americana. that's the story. they're telling here today, of course, leading up to coach walz tonight, a good friend of mine from the united states congress ready to serve ready to lead and ready to inspire. and of course, tomorrow, kamala harris it's true that you point out the idea of the future because democrats have been trying to convince that this is a deep bench, that it's not just one person or a one off or one leader, but a future entirely. you've heard from a number of people tonight, people who may be the future of the democratic party. when you look at the different speeches that took place tonight from buttigieg to, of course, former president bill clinton to even governor tim walz, are you trying to suggest to the american people how deep this bench could possibly be? >> i think it's really inspiring for somebody like hakeem jeffries, who could be the next speaker of the house. this was his first major address to a national audience. right. passing the torch from nancy pelosi. it's kind of

like a similar thing to joe biden passing kamala harris. so this is the next generation part of what i think democrats are saying is it's time. i mean, bill clinton said it very poignantly he's younger than donald trump, right? he was president 23 years ago, and the american people are ready for this message of turning the page on the divided partizan politics of the past and welcoming in a new era. and there are so many new leaders for that era. first and foremost, kamala harris tim walz. but yes, pete buttigieg, hakeem jeffries, and so many more. >> well, as you know, there is a bit of a preacher to the choir effect of any convention where the enthusiasm that is within the convention halls, they hope to mirror what's happening outside. but you've got to have a broad tent to become the president of the united states and get those 270 electoral votes colorado people are focusing a great deal on what do your voters need to hear in order to be secure and confident on issues of the economy and immigration that this is the right choice? >> really? two things this convention is accomplishing.

one is exciting democrats and people who are ready to support kamala harris. >> it's there. these are the foot soldiers. these are the people going door to door these are the people making calls. these are the workers and donors of the party that are going to help propel kamala harris to the presidency the second piece, talking to that small sliver of undecided voters, i will say, saying, hey, look, we got the normies here. the other side of the weirdos, the dangerous people they're talking about strange conspiracy theories. we're talking about helping you afford to live in your home, helping you afford to buy health care for your family, getting a good education for your child, upwardly mobile job opportunity. if you work hard and play by the rules in america, you can get ahead. so that's the contrast that they're showing and they're doing a great job. so far, there have been a number of republicans who have been speaking as well, those who have felt almost homeless in a sense, not recognizing their party of yesteryear as compared to now. >> what do you say to those voters who may be looking at this very reluctant to cast a ballot for democrats, but looking at donald trump and his

campaign and saying i don't know, that reflects my values any longer. >> well, i think it's really important. democrats talking about public safety. they did it today. they did it yesterday at tom suozzi, talking about tough border security. democrats had a plan to secure the border, a bipartisan plan republicans support. why isn't the border secure? donald trump struck it down for his own political reasons this is about america. we care about border security. we care about our neighborhoods being safe. tim walz talked about the freedom to know that your kid won't be shot in the hallways of the school. we got to make sure that people who care about public safety, who care about securing our border, know that kamala harris will do that. >> on the issue of immigration, every state is increasingly becoming a border state, and obviously colorado has been one where immigration has been a huge impact. are you confident that your voters or constituents believe that the achilles heel that is frankly plagued the perception of the biden-harris administration, that a harris/walz ticket can solve those issues? >> look immigrants are an

amazing asset to our country i'm third generation american. many friends are first, second, third generation there in a minute. but you got to do it legally and you got to play by the rules and that's really what americans by and large believe. and it's what kamala harris's policies will help do protect our border, secure the border, and then make sure the people who want to work hard and get ahead, do it the right way and legally, rather than illegally. >> governor always great to talk to you. thank you for joining. thank you laura well, up next, a game of cornhole and some candid conversation. >> former obama aides and host of pod save america spill the tea with none other than harry enten. harry tells all about it in just a moment oh, that's money the last few years have been really tough on my family. this never ending cycle of inflation is taking more and more out of my paycheck. hard working families like mine are hurting. we need help and relief from rising costs. why

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back with me. harry. all right. who won all right you know, that's the wrong question to ask me. >> i don't believe it's who won or lost. it's how you play the game. laura coates live i think we know what the answer is then. no no no no no no no no no no no. i would believe that no matter what look i, i was interested in playing with jon favreau and jon lovett, two veterans of the obama white house, the two members of the pod save america crew because they were two of the most critical voices for joe biden sticking in the race earlier this year. and so i was really interested in catching up with them to get an understanding of how they think the campaign's been going since. kamala harris, of course, became the likely and now actual democratic nominee and so it was quite an interesting thing. and we have so many fun things going on here at the politico politico, cnn grill, and i wanted to try some of them out. so i decided to challenge the two of them to a little bit of

cornhole. let's take a listen did you guys think a month ago, or i guess a little bit more than a month ago, that we were going to be here where we are right now with kamala harris getting the democratic nomination and joe biden actually stepping out. yeah, i mean, that's how we, us and nancy planted that was the plan. >> that's that was the plan. no it's insane. i've never i would have never expected this in 1 million years. it's the it's of all the time i've been in politics, this has been like the most momentous surprising consequential month i've ever seen in a campaign. >> my any decent at cornhole i was pretty close. >> i'm gonna go. go oh come on come on. >> you guys are in the podcast space pod save america. you know, in the internet and just the difference that you're seeing or even getting from listener response between now with kamala harris obviously forging ahead and sort of the

sort of excitement that you're seeing, especially maybe among your younger listeners or hearing from them compared to where we were just a month ago one thing we hear, just like is politics is this what politics can be like? is it especially for younger people? >> they're like, can it feel like this kind of just talk about that, that sort of just difference in sort of attitude? >> a lot of people felt incredibly angry and scared because trump had become president and one of the things that one of the risks of the cynicism and viciousness and cruelty that trump engenders is that it turns it turns you cynical to it makes you angry to it makes you sour too and it's dispiriting. i'm going to take another shot. >> let's take another shot let's take another shot. why would i why would i do that but i already, you know, you can't go can't go wrong boo! what's been different about this campaign with kamala harris and tim walz compared to almost every other opponent donald trump has had, is they have not let him throw them off their game. they have thrown him off

his game and as long as they can continue to deliver their message and keep going and keep fighting and not get pulled into the donald trump, you know crap, i think they'll be good. and then other than that, we just we all better get to work. >> all right, well, we'll see if i can possibly make a shot here oh look at that cornhole cornhole. it works when it works. but sometimes the wrong person wins anyway. >> just like elections. there you go. >> now oh, yes come on laura coates live. >> the only thing i have to say is. will you do me the honor and come here to the grill and play a game of cornhole with me tomorrow yes yes. >> harry enten. i will yes. thank you so much. yes you have made me the happiest man on the face of the earth. >> god bless you, laura coates. god bless you. i can't wait. i have one much more of our

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at all you haven't been to the border i and i haven't been to europe. and, i mean, i don't i don't understand the point that you're making. >> here's her grim scorecard. murders rapes, attacks on children. a 12 year old girl in texas, a mother of five in maryland, a nursing student in georgia all savagely murdered by those biden and harris led into our country unlawfully. >> we have a secure border. >> kamala harris was and is a complete failure at her job now she's asking us for a promotion. who in their right mind would give it to her? restoration pac is responsible for the content of this advertising a consumer cellular. >> we pride ourselves on getting you fast, reliable, nationwide coverage at up to half the cost of the leading carriers. but don't worry, we've got more than that going for us. >> get the

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