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we are just a few more speeches. celebrities, some musical performances, ink. oh way from the moment, everything has been building up to a historic keynote speech tonight from democratic presidential nominee almost kamala harris last night it was her running mate, governor tim walz your kids freedom to go to school without worrying about being shot dead in the hall i know guns i'm a veteran. >> i'm a hunter. >> and i was a better shot than most republicans in congress and i got the trophies to prove but i'm also a dad i believe in the second amendment, but i also believe they our first responsibility is to keep our kids safe there was a heartfelt

moment to when walz mentioned his family and you saw his son overcome there he is gus with emotions stand and mouthed the words. that's my dad just with absolute pride. and in a big surprise for the crowd, oprah winfrey showed up and gave a rare political endorsement, encouraging registered independents like herself to get out and vote for kamala harris. she also took a swipe at trump's running mate, j.d. vance and his childless cat lady comments we are not so different from our neighbors. when a house is on fire, we don't ask about the homeowners race or religion we don't wonder who their partner is or how they voted. no we just tried to do the best we can to save them. and if the pace place happens to belong to a childless cat lady we try to

get back cat out to with us. >> now cnn senior political analyst mark preston, also terri zoo plot, former speech writer for president barack obama, and author of the upcoming book, say it well, find your voice, speak your mind. in inspired. here any audience? mark preston, i want to start with you because you're the only person i know is probably a bigger celebrity than oprah winfrey i do want to talk about tonight first, what we're going to see vice president harris. yes, she's been vice president now for almost four years? yes, she is the democratic nominee but american voters, some of them say they still don't know her that well. so what does she have to do here? what is left for her to do? >> best-case scenario is for her to take what michelle obama did 48 hours ago and deliver that same kind of energy, what she needs to do, which is

amazing because people don't remember which shows you that the psyche of the american memory since covid, she ran for president, she's been on the debate stage. she's been in the united states senate, but she has taken a behind the scenes role as we've seen, as vice president, as most vice presidents do, she needs to sell herself and look not only strong, but confident to the american people tonight, i just like to congratulate you on right in some really good speeches for obama if you were writing a speech tonight for kamala harris, what would you put in it? what would be a couple of maybe zingers are lines that you'd want people to remember forever. >> sure. by the actually the most important thing she can do tonight is what tim walz did last night which is tell a story, tell us who you are. >> tell us where you come from, what your values are. i mean, i teach political speech writing american university. i would encourage every elected official, every political candidate in this country everybody, i would begged them to watch and study that speech last night. that was a master

class and how to connect not just speak at voters, speak to voters, but to connect with them. he didn't engage in all the usual slogans and word salad that you hear from so many policy he just got up and told the story as a husband, a father, kamala harris could do something similar tonight, get up and just tell the story of your life where you come from. family, working at mcdonald's, you know, the things that really people can relate to let's hear those stories. let's tell us who you are. that's the american people can vote for let me ask a follow here. >> because mark mckinnon, who famously worked for george w bush's campaigns also, mccain he called the tim walz speech the most authentic speech he ever seen in american politics. and i thought that mean some people might say that's somewhat hyperbolic. you've been in this game a long time, but you seem to be saying that this was something 16 minutes long. it wasn't long that this was something different. >> you know, who does the speech for 16 minutes long? barack obama, 2004. you do not have to say talk a lot to say a lot. i think that's a big

mistake that so many politicians, so many of us making our lives, we think we have to talk for a 30 minutes, 15 minutes to make a point. he did all of that in 16 minutes. again, all he did, he got up. he just told me do what he was like as a father, a husband, a coach, a veteran. he told stories from that experience and think about what he did. he wrapped everything. it was a political speech. make no mistake. it has edges to it, but it wasn't a partisan speech. you didn't hear the words republican, democrat over and over again. he talked about working with republicans. he framed everything around the very simple, basic idea of being a good neighbor. we do these things because it means being a good neighbor, taking care of one another. that's where these policies come from it really was a masterclass and i just i would bag politicians, sue to just to study this, this is what we, this is how you connect with voters. >> interesting when you said masterclass, i could have sworn you are going to be like michelle obama's speech the night before her, but, but the fact that you saw that in walz is really, really fascinating

for someone who writes a speeches. i mean, i am curious. mark just quickly ticking off what stood out the most to you last night because of course tim walz was opposed to steal the show. it was a short speech, but it seemed to certainly resonate with those inside of the convention will couple things. >> one is brevity is a virtue, okay? so 60 minutes wrap i say and are here no, no, no, no, no, it certainly brevity is a virtue in to build upon what you're saying is that tim walz look comfortable in his own shoes. >> okay. so he wasn't up there. he was selling himself, but he wasn't over overselling himself. he was being himself. and i think that is very important. but two takeaways very quickly we all thought it was going to be oprah winfrey was going to steal the show obviously, tim walz, son, i mean, he stole the show. he sold it for his father. you know, last night, but i would also say look at west moore. i mean, the governor of maryland, that guy's run for president some point. no question. >> you heard it here first and he was telling me vietor on the

buds, save america on his website says something to the effect of yeah, governor gave a great speech and never skipped armed day. it is how he described governor wes moore. >> he went and plea. he went in practiced with the university of maryland terrapins it's like the whole day the couple of weeks ago, we could probably start either the error is the maryland i know that's more of a comment than them than it is. >> don is jealous and his arms that's what we've learned today. >> there has been some talk. scott jennings, republican was here before saying that the democrats here so far and governor walz and leading up to this, they haven't told you what they will do harris hasn't shed said really what she will do if he's president, how much of that should be in a convention speech right? >> of course, take issue with that. obviously, if you listen to donald trump and republicans that they seem convinced they know exactly what she's going to do and so they just turn it every day. i mean, i think i think it's very clear. i mean, the section of his speech where he again, he talked about what freedom really is. you heard it all that a strong defense of work families, strong defense

of again, what the democrats are going to do for families like his i think it's important, remember that political speeches at a political convention or not state of the union speeches, we don't come here for a laundry list of 30 policies that's not what this is about. this is the thematic beginning of the general election campaigns. so i think that's why his speech was so effective last night at the semantics of any you talk about, yeah, they're seeing seeing his son i mean, that's you can't you can't script that. you make that up. that's just authentic. and you say the best leaders, the best politicians, all of us in business politics, whatever, there are people who are comfortable in their own once again, they know who they are. they don't need an adviser or a poll to tell them what to say or what to believe. and so we heard that last night. i think we're going to hear tonight. it sounds like you're saying it has to be hard, not head, and that's what we keep seeing resonate with people. >> it's both together and i think there's a lot of politicians struggle with what the balance terry it, marc, thank you, guys so much for coming on this morning over to

you. okay. >> thank you, guys will get right back to you this morning, donald trump is launching a new attack on democrats who at the convention this week, this time for their focus on the controversial project 2025 and linking donald trump to it cnn's kristen holmes is in arizona where trump is campaigning today. kristen, what is he saying this morning yeah. >> i mean, look, project2025 is become a real liability for the former president and democrats have seized on this opportunity and just a reminder to our viewers of what it is it is a 900 page document that was created by a lot of former trump administration officials to serve as sort of a roadmap for a potential transition. >> now they said it was for any republican potential president, but obviously now it has been linked to donald trump, particularly given the fact that again, so many people who currently advise donald trump and served in his administration were part of crafting it and it's very controversial. some of the policy decisions in their policy rights in there are very

far right. and donald trump has really hard to distance we're tried to distance himself and democrats have seized on that. we've seen it throughout the convention, and that's something that's annoyed trump, which you heard today when he did an interview on fox takes take a lesson no idea what it was. a group of people got together, they drew up some conservative values, very conservative values, and in some case, perhaps they went over the line, perhaps that didn't. i have no idea what project 25 is now. >> obviously, he does know what project 2025 is. and again, it has become quite a thorn in his side and something that he and his campaign have had to contend with. he has continued to say he had nothing to do with it, but kate, i cannot stress this enough. part of the reason why donald trump is linked to project 2025 is because of the authors who crafted it that's exactly right, kristen, great to see you much more from kristen holmes throughout the day. >> donald trump campaigning at the border. i'm trying to

obviously continue his counterprogramming effort throughout the week. thank you so much. >> get back to you, john alright, stevie wonder, john legend in our favorite sheila e. because you got love for cancian she's there near john legend that's not an on her either, but they are dancers. if you come back after the break, we promise we'll show you still shealy. will also talk about what you might see here on the convention floor night tonight. cnn is live from chicago vice president kamala harris delivers her acceptance speech on the dnc's final night. jake tapper and anderson cooper leads cnn's special live coverage. the democratic national convention tonight seven on cnn and streaming us start your day with nature me, and try new zero sugar gummies

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at nine on cnn joy. joy joy, joy john we will be joyful warriors. >> we are going to bring back to the journey of our nation shin joy tonight is about joy. >> we need to choose joy over anger the scripts, tells us that we may indoor during the long night but joy will come in the morning. like i came, jeffries 21 in america, that's more joyful. >> let us choose honor, and let us choose joe this joy person was very popular at the democratic national convention. no, i mean, look, the message, not subtle, not at all. as many of the speakers as possible use

the word joy as many times as they possibly could. with us now is the governor of new york democrat kathy hochul well, governor, thank you so much for being with us. how much is joy a real viable strategy what it does is it lifts up the human spirit when people start talking in those terms and reminding people that america is not a hellhole. >> it's not a dark place, is not a place that is a horn to others the way donald, donald trump describes it, it's about time we bring that sense of happiness and optimism back into the political conversations ronald reagan talk about morning an american, it lifted people's spirits up. we have that same opportunity now to start changing the dialogue, the climate around the politics. it doesn't have to be so, so visceral and so cruel. and that's exactly what this convention is about, about john, you miss the opportunity to say it is a joy to have you on this morning, governor

hochul i do want to ask you i do want to ask you about how this is going to need to be an order to have this all translate this joy into votes. what democrats need to do in your mind to keep this momentum going? >> first of all, the thousands of people who've been joining every night for this convention. they are going back to their hometowns, cities, rural areas with that sense of even the sense that they have to bring more people along with them. they will find others to. he experienced the same joy and happiness that because associated with the harris walz campaign. so you have those people in that room, but there are millions of americans who are tuning in, who all of a sudden are thinking, you know what, we're not talking about, dark things, we're not talking about stripping away women's right to have an abortion like one out of three women in america today live under an abortion ban because of donald's from they're not

they want us to have a sense that things are going to turn better, that there's returning the corner on all that negativity. and when this election is over, and kamala harris is elected because of all the people who may not have been tuning in politically, but are so sick and tired of being taken down to a dark place by donald trump. there. it's going to change the political discourse and the body politic for i think for the next generation, once we have the pro, pro post trump era, which i can't wait for. the post-trump era when the republican party's starts rebuilding itself with using statesmen of the past as their role models and not the cultive personality that is donald trump. everything is going to change for the better it's long overdue. but we're on the cost food as soon as kamala harris and tim walz are elected in november but ease, joy, a governing plan. >> i mean if you're running for president, i can't imagine vice president harris will say tonight to the people, i

promise you two joy, i mean, does she have to lay out but more of what she will do more than just how she wants to make people feel no joy is just an emotion. >> it's an emotion that has been long overlooked in politics since donald trump was elected back in 2016. so that's just bringing that sense of possibility and that american can-do spirit that was missing. so that's not what she's saying is going to be here. economic plan to put more money back in the pockets of everyday hardworking americans this is a convention speech. it's a big pep rally, its funding, it's exciting. i don't think it's a fair criticism to say that, oh, that means he doesn't have a strong economic plan. i don't hear a lot of people saying, well, where's the economic plan of donald trump other than project 2025? so let's be fair in the comparison you will hear her plans. there's plenty of time for that to get out there, but this introduces the people to the american public and that's exactly what they did already with tim walz. i think he just

created an expectation and excitement and energy that people didn't expect in this and again, that goes back to kamala harris, is decision-making, her first major decision that she made on the national and global stage was to select an individual who represented the heart and soul of middle america. and he's so relatable, that's going to bring people to the election with a sense of, we can do this, we can turn this around. he have a coach who's one of our leaders in kamala harris, you'll hear all her plans. >> so why don't you ask where donald trump is, like 20 point plan is to get more money back in the pockets of america. do you haven't heard that you've heard his plan to get more money back in the pockets of billionaires so that's the kind of analysis that should be talked about, not the criticism of convention where he we're just so happy to be together governor kathy hochul, thanks so much for being with us. >> really appreciate your time this morning. >> one of the governor's constituents westchester counties own former president

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next time you hear him, don't count the last count they he's like one of those tenors opening up for. he walks out on stage like i did, try to get it lungs open by saying me, me, me, me, me, me that was for president bill clinton, of course, speaking had his 13th democratic national convention and joining us now, former republican presidential candidate vivek ramaswamy. >> thank you so much, sir. for coming on this morning. i want to talk to you about about you. so lucky for you. we're talking about you right now. >> when you were running, do you feel like and watching what's happening with walz and harris? >> do you feel like you came in? would you change the way that you that you tried to run

for office, the way that he spoke, what you said on the debate stage? >> look, i was a first-time run for office. i ran for us president. i was the youngest ever presidential candidate in u.s. history for the republican party. >> and one of the things that i learned is the more you can stay on your own vision for the country, the better off you're going to be. >> my best moments in the campaign. where would i stay true to our vision of reviving our national identity? and also when i was able to engage with people who had disagreements with me. and if we don't do that enough in our politics and those are my favorite moments from the campaign what i would do a little differently is i realized it is to address directly address your question is one things that happens in politics, just new to me coming from the business world is people come at you personally and they come directly. and the approach i took as if you're going to hit me. i'm gonna hit you back ten times harder, which you gotta do. but you got to do more than that. well, i would say that was part of a learning you're only going to get from running for u.s. president. and it was an experience of a lifetime that i'm grateful for i do find this very interesting to hear

you talk like this. >> and i have to say we saw this in political unit a 45 minute phone conversation and some of the discussions you had with them, but we're just like what you said here in it does relate to what we've heard i think at the democratic national convention so far and where many of the speakers have said, and i'm sure you disagree with them on policy, but it sounds like there saying what you're saying, which is that you have to listen to what people are saying and you feel like maybe you came in a little hot when you are running in the republican primary. >> will look, i take a look at the presidential campaign. i often judged as a business leader, i've been by results. the reality is i came in with no name, i.d. most people didn't know my name, let alone knew how to pronounce it. i was even expected to make the debate stage i'd be the vice president, multiple former u.s. senators and current senators and governors. >> some proud of what we achieved. but at the same time, i didn't achieve my goal of receiving the nomination and being the next president. and one of my learnings from that campaign was that there's a lot of distractions along the way. there's a lot of things that will pull you off of your original purpose. don't seed to

that temptation. so as it relates to the race right now, what you bring up in the democratic convention, i think one of the things that's missing in this race right now is a rigorous debate on policy. you do get a lot of democratic criticism of republicans and trump in particular, including even that clip of bill clinton that you played, that it's built around a culture it's a personality. >> i see a little bit of projection right now. >> and right now, we see a campaign that's built mostly around style rather than substance. and i do think americans are going to be best served if this is an election built around competing policy visions for the future of the country. and i do think right now that's missing for being very honest from the kamala harris campaign and the democratic and the demo campaigns more generally and not from the trump campaign cult of personality really well, look, that's why i bring it up. like it or not, trump has offered deep policy specifics from everything from a vision for a crypto currency in digital assets framework, all the way to his specific proposals of what tariffs he would or wouldn't impose was a

clear position on how to end the russia, ukraine conflict. a clear position on mass deportations in this country, and exactly what he would do to seal that southern border. you may or may not agree with the policies, but he has offered a policy specifics at a level that we have not heard from kamala harris. >> and i do say this. i think it's accurate to say this, i think right now so far in her campaign, it's early. >> but i think the media has been covering for her absence of policy specifics in the same way they were covering biden's cognitive deficits for the course of three years. >> and i do think americans are we left off worse as voters? when we don't get those hard answers. so my advice to voters across the country would be assume that her positions are what they were when she ran for u.s. president in 2020. that wasn't a long time ago. and if so, we ought to be having a debate about abolishing private health insurance about taxes on unrealized capital gains, about the green new deal. that's the debate we need to be having, but we're not. and i think americans are less well served as a consequence so i will say

this politico article and conversation you had with them, you basically said you've been telling trump he's got to do a better job of staying on message on policy because look over the last four weeks and five days is the nominee became vice president harris? >> he's questioned whether she's black. he's made front of her name repeatedly. he questions her intelligence constantly. that's not the message you seem to be suggesting is the right one for him i think there's a gaping, wide-open opportunity to go harder after kamala harris on her policy record, i think the reality is, most people do like their private health insurance who haven't. >> she has favored taking it away. most people do like fracking and drilling and the effects on energy prices that, that has she's opposed fracking he is opposed to even offshore drilling. these are issues we should be hitting hard on. take that tax on unrealized capital gains. that means most farmers and most small business owners will have to pay taxes with cash. they

literally do not have, that is a formula for a great depression so my assessment is we have not been going hard enough at her for that policy record. you look at the other side, their strategy has been to call about 70 stay away. but state but stay away from the personal. are you saying stay away from personal stuff attacks? >> i think that's a winning strategy for us, especially against the backdrop of democrats who have made this with personal stuff, not the personal is that right? because i think that's a contrast from democrats. you think about the democratic convention chants of lock him up, chance of weird, effectively calling 70 plus million americans on the other side weird as they're level, they're not calling the americans, that. but i just wanted they're not calling americans weird. they're not calling the electorate weird. >> they're just weird ways with the bawling. >> their weird was the broad phrase they know there's civically talking about the vice president, republican vice presidential nominee, and donald trump, not the electorate well, i think the beg to differ on that characterization. >> you look at the way that many republicans, even down-ballot republicans, are treated in these races. my goal

is not to play the victim card. michael is actually tie light an opportunity that republicans have to say that at a moment where they're leveling personal insults at you you know what you have an opportunity. we have an opportunity to attack even harder on the policy record. and i think our country is going to be better off if we have those policy debates, we still have two months ahead. i'm optimistic that's where this is going to go after the pageantry of a well-produced democratic convention after john legend and oprah winfrey, you're done. now we can get past the show to the real action of a policy debate that americans want we've ache ramaswamy. thank you so much for coming on this morning. appreciate your time thank you i'm going to cross tim walz takes the gloves off of his minnesota nice reputation last night what we know now about how kamala harris is approaching for a big moment tonight for the biggest speech of her political career hen to

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news literacy project, a nonpartisan group they analyzed more than 500 unique examples of election misinformation they're launching a searchable database today hoping to raise awareness and combat the lies. we got an early look at their data and found that about one in ten of these examples were actually the fake endorsements like you just showed. look at this, you showed it. i'll show it again. just this past weekend, donald trump put this problem front and center when he shared these a.i. generated images of swifties for trump many of these images especially that one on the top left, there's simply not real. they were made by a computer designed to deceive. but it's not just trump the misinformation is coming from all angles. here's another viral post from earlier this year claiming that taylor swift endorsed joe biden. she did not support him in 2020. she did support him in 2020, but has not yet weighed in in 2024. and here's ron maura kate, look at this photoshopped image of

actor ryan reynolds supposedly wearing a shirt supporting kamala harris. some of these lies are easy to spot like this one is photoshopped, but others are far more sophisticated with a.i and they regularly rack up millions of views online. the news literacy project is hoping to fight back against this problem and stem the tide by releasing this dashboard so people can check it out for themselves. and it's just a good reminder for everyone out there that it's really on us. if people see something that's just too good to believe us eye-popping celebrity endorsement, you might want to take a closer look before you hit that share button. >> yeah, we have learned that over and over again with what we've seen online and how effective or ineffectively the social media companies kind of go after these, the news literacy project, a great organization doing some really important work. it's great to see you, marshall. thank you so much for bringing us that and so tonight, vice president kamala harris will take center stage at the democratic convention for the biggest moment of her political career,

officially accepting the party's nomination for president ahead of her democrat after democrat who have already taken the stage, have worked very hard to lay the groundwork for this moment that they hope will propel her to victory kamala harris, his top kamala harris is experienced and kamala harris is ready. amola harris is fighting for our freedom. kamala harris is fighting for our families kamala harris is fighting for our future. together and joining me right now is cnn political commentators political anchor for spectrum news and host of the big deal with errol louis. >> errol louis and joining us also is cnn political commentator and republican pollster, kristen soltis anderson. thanks guys for being here. errol, what do you think tonight means for kamala harris other than everything? >> every day and really, it looked there's a lot at stake for her answer. the democratic party, we've seen a lot of different versions of where the

future can take us. we heard from the labor movement, we heard from the women's movement the environmental movement, the base of the democratic party everybody's got some place that they want to go. she has to bring them all together and promise them victory. and she's got to do it. living up to all of this rhetoric we've heard speech after speech, literally hundreds of people getting on stage over the last four days saying she's great she's this, she's that well, she's got to prove it now setting the bar high, but necessarily so. >> anyway, good point of thing. kristen what is polling? what are voters and all of your research telling you about voters want to and need to hear from her now at 20 point plan of what you're what you're going to what she's going to do, what she's going to do, or tell them how she wants them wants to help them feel. said another way, joy as a strategy. what do you think well, i think voters certainly are looking for a turning of the page to a brighter, more optimistic future. >> the challenge for harris will be tonight demonstrating how much is she a different case? age than the current

administration in which she is the vice president. her challenges that she has to say she's the person to do the next four years without being too closely tied to the last four years. >> and she's so far been able to somewhat definitely navigate that polling that came out this weekend showed that only about a third of voters really think that she's had a significant influence on her administration's policies on things like the economy, on things like immigration so she has a real opportunity to distance herself from the more unpopular policies of the current administration. >> but how she threads that needle a little bit key it will be key if it does come down to it that errol voters at the end, they always vote in their gut. that's the thing we always talk about. it's kind of like an old adage and how, and how they feel and how they make a candidate make some feeling. you can see that in the, at this convention they really are leaning in to that joy. but we also have tim walz who leaned into that. >> do the bringing joy going back to the campaign. but also as a politico headline put it,

watch out trump walz shows he's not just minnesota, nice. what did america learn about tim walz last night, and what role he plays in the campaign. and a possible administered well, one thing we learned is that he's got a sudden really loves him was this a wonderful moment oh, i look, i think what we've seen is that minnesota nice, you know, those vikings are also, they also hit pretty hard, right? and i think that's true for the frontline to the minnesota vikings, but it's also true for, you know, the high school team it's true for for tim walz, they come at you and they keep coming, you know, he's he's a cafeteria high school cafeteria, a monitor for 20 years. you know, he's in the national guard for 26 years. they just keep coming they mean what they say. and i when he says he's from a small town and that the connections of that i thought was one of the more meaningful politically of sort of themes that he hit on is that from a town of 400 people and that you don't have to like the politics of your

neighbor. you don't have to share their religion or their lifestyle, but you do have to look out for them and that's sort of a core value that i think is really important. that's the kind of thing you want to connect with. and if along the way, you still a few rural votes that otherwise would have gone republican so much the better and carrying about your neighbor was also a theme. kristen, that oprah hit on in her speech. oprah winfrey surprise appearance and speech. she made appeal very directly to independent and undecided voters. and i saw you you definitely written about this, but i saw you also post about this last night saying oprah is still a very influential voice among many of the very voters. both campaigns winds are actively courting which voters and what's the influence so i did a focus group of women who had voted for donald trump in the past presidential election, but said they were open-minded this time. >> now this is before the switch at the top of the democratic ticket. but nevertheless, these are the sort of republican women who are not guaranteed to vote for donald trump this election. when i asked them, who do you

wish was running for president who isn't right now, the first answer that came out was oprah even though it's pretty well known that oprah has more progressive or democratic views. she was a big advocate for barack obama when he ran for president she's still retains a lot of these qualities that many swing voters like. >> she's a businesswoman, she's very successful. >> she's a good communicator. >> and that's something that people really admire frankly, that love for someone who's successful and businesses part of why they still find trump to be appealing in some ways, donald trump and oprah have a lot that are very different about them. but there are certain pieces about them being successful individuals that is appealing to a certain kind of swing voter in this election. >> but that is what was so fascinating about her op-ed is like there's actually something there's a connective tissue there of why they like trump and why they like oprah, which you say that sentence and people will think kate has absolutely lost her mind. >> no, no, not at all. >> there was a point. i mean, i remember when he first was running and speculating about who he might choose as a running mate, donald trump said he wanted oprah that was you

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president, joining us now, democratic congressman from minnesota and to craig and new york congressman pat ryan. thank you both for being here. here what does kamala harris have to do tonight to solidify not just the fact that she's going to say yes, i accept the nomination, but to actually solidify the presidency, do you think it is that important of the speech? >> from literally day one, she is just knocked it out of the park. day after day, better and better, stronger and stronger, more unity, more energy, more joy. i think tonight she could take this from sort of a campaign to an actual movement where you see across the country, folks just feeling like i'm now partisan something bigger than no knock on vice president harris, who's amazing, but like to really feel like we can send a message as a country, as patriots that we are going to reject this other thing that has been brutal for the last few years. and we're going to be for her and governor walz, and that feels good.

>> what's great about having both of you here? you are two of the members who you're in frontline districts, who you guys win by really small margins. and i think both of lost by really small margins also, when you've run what has changed in the last four-and-a-half weeks on the ground in your district and in your races. >> the democratic enthusiasm is off the charts. we're seeing record signups to volunteer to phone, bank to door-knock people want to turn the page on the last several years, people want to reach their hand out to their neighbor again. and so for districts like ours, it's both democratic enthusiasm. but enthusiasm to get back to the doors and to reach out your hand and tell your neighbor, okay. we're done. now is the time for joy. now is the time for hope. now is the time to come back. tibet together as one country. and of course in minnesota, it's also the time to make sure that our governor becomes the vice president of the united states. >> you talking about the way that people are feeling, but it has been three plus years,

almost four years of joe biden in office. and you talk about the shift what have you been hearing about how people change? because there is a painful part of this for a man who has spent his entire life in public service i think it's an underappreciated actually, how president biden's truly patriotic and selfless decision seated this ground and reminded people actually, we can have a politics where where people put country ahead of party, ahead of itself. >> we haven't seen that. and certainly in my lifetime and so that then created this fertile ground for vice president harris for governor walz, for this kind of campaign in there running. it takes both, it took him, president biden doing what he did, and vice president harris, governor walz doing what they're doing. and that's just like a one-two combo that look at the, look at the apa are the other choice here, where they've just done the opposite in every way. >> but you're in this district,

right? that could go either way and you face that every single time. so what are independent saying like, what are people saying to you, who are not team democrat? >> yeah. >> i have a lot like angie, a lot of independence. >> they are responding to that as well in a way that has exceeded my expectations and it really makes me proud. it's again, it's like people want to be called to something better, something more positive. we've heard this throughout. so many remarks, including governor walz is very compellingly last night. and when we give them that positive choice to be for something it really, i think a patriotic feeling that we're staring in people it's just a very easy choice for folks. i think. all right. you're part of the minnesota delegation. >> one of the other delegations on the floor of the cameras are all around it spill on gusts. >> tell us about tell us about that moment. what you guys were all thinking then. >> well, look, you know, when john legend came out and saying, let's go crazy, you should have seen u.s. bouncing up and down. so crazy but the most meaningful, i mean, think

about this. i'm a mother of four sons to have your son stand up. that's my dad that's my dad. look, this is who we've known in minnesota for years though, right? ghassan, hope i mean but guess who fis these are the kids and the kids are growing up. but you can still see that joy and that love and that's something else that i think america wants to see again, that love for your neighbor, but also just the joy and love and family can i ask the neighbor thing, which is something you brought up in something explicitly that i think speakers have brought barack obama, bill clinton, you know, governor walz are all made this point and i understand you're building a contrast with donald trump in this case, but i also feel like it may be something of a warning to democrats out there to and how you would prefer them to approach the next 75 days? well, look, i you know, what's been interesting is i think none of us have realized the group therapy that we've

all been in together over the last several months and several weeks, but we need to reach out to one another again as americans, my family may look a little bit different than pat's family. i have a wife and four sons and paths married to a woman and has children that are a lot younger than mine. but you don't want we all have the same hopes and dreams and i think that's what this campaign is reminding us. and i think it's so critical for this nation at this moment in time, as we think about who can we be in the future, that's the difference this campaign is turned to the future and i think we're optimistic again, that you, you touched on this, you said, look, i what i heard was hope and joy and pushing it forward. and the thing you didn't say is we should continue to attack and attack and attack donald trump. do you think some of that should be stripped away now that the point has been made elections are about choices. >> we got to draw contrasts, but my my first boss an army used to say if you're, if your

enemy is making a mistake, get out of their way. >> and i mean, we've just seen this over and over and on a very personal level to see donald trump say what he said about medal of honor recipients as a combat veteran of 27 months he's got to own that. i'm going to talk i'm speaking tonight. i'm going to make him own that every american should make him on that. so we've got to pick those points to draw the contrast that can be done in a still respectful civil way. we can't get them let him get away with that kind of stuff though. >> right? congressman pat ryan, congresswoman angie craig minnesota, new york here. appreciate you both being with us together. really interesting perspective from the front lines in congressional races around the country and a new hour of cnn, new central begins right now hi good morning. everyone. i'jo