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won't do that when i will what's next? >> la 28 were coming her way? well tara hunter, thank you both. good luck. we'll be rooting for you, hunter. bring home the gold and did the best he can for the united states were always in your corner. thank you. >> thank you. so much, guys. >> hey, i thank all of you for watching anderson cooper at 360 starts right now good evening former president trump is in the key swing state of arizona this hour receiving a potentially crucial endorsement and trying to take back the spotlight who democrats who were riding a wave of enthusiasm after their four-day national convention. >> former president's newest supporter is robert f. kennedy jr. the namesake of one of america's best-known democratic icon, who today suspended his independent presidential bid and did what no one in his famous family has ever done, embrace a republican
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>> how many for president? tonight, joint appearance comes hours after kennedy announced his decision to suspend his campaign and throw his support behind trump tried to quote, throw president trump in jail in quote now it's unclear what effect kennedy's announcement will have on an already turbulent race. and part because according to kennedy, he's not completely abandoning his campaign i want everyone to know that i am not terminating my campaign i am simply suspending it and not not ending it. i my name will
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remain on the ballot in most states, but in about ten battleground states where my presence would be a spoiler, i'm going to remember my name and i've already started that process and urge voters to vote for me. >> well, also unclear tonight is what role will kennedy will have in the remaining months of the trump campaign? whether trump and kennedy have agreed on a job for kennedy in a second, trump administration, should the former president win in november what is clear is that can be supporters in battleground states. now, without a standard bearer could potentially swing an election in a close state like arizona. in august in york times and siena college poll found harris with the edge over trump among registered arizona voters by three points, 45% to 42% but that is within the margin of error with no clear leader kennedy drew 6% joining me right now as kristen holmes, who's at tonight's rally in arizona. so talk more about how the trump campaign is feeling about this endorsement. and do they think this changes the
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race? >> they certainly do anderson, they believe that this is a very big when they started, according kennedy's orbit right before the rnc. but those talks really escalated in recent weeks after kamala harris took the top of the ticket. remember there was a lot of talk early on in this election cycle about where kennedy actually drew votes. trump did he take them from joe biden, didn't take them from donald trump know donald trump's team seem to think even then that there was likely some votes coming from their team. however, as kamala harris ascended to the top of the ticket, this became more urgent to get rfk to back donald trump because what they were noticing was that in swing states in particular all the votes or at least most of the votes were being drawn from donald trump. and that is something we heard kennedy say earlier today. he said he came to the realization that particularly in battleground states, he was taking from donald trump and not from democrats. and that was something that he didn't want to do. so this ago we saw him stage of this kind of
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almost crazy arrival that had fireworks music, and the crowd was cheering. it's clear he is popular among republicans, but how much is actually moves the needle seems unclear. here's what he said when he took the stage with donald trump the best way to build a safe america is to rebuild our industrial base and rebuild the middle class. and that's contrary don't you want a president who's going to get us out of wars and who's going to rebuild the middle class in this country just to be very clear, he did talk about getting us out of endless wars. >> donald trump has said that he would, but we have no indication of how exactly he would do that, but just the last thing i want to point out here is what you said about that polling, particularly in arizona, that is not the only battleground state in which kennedy was pulling around 5%. they believe that 5% could make up a razor-thin margin and give donald trump an advantage in states like arizona, in states like michigan. and that is what
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they are hoping with this endorsement. >> so what do we know about the behind the scenes campaign to get rfk junior to endorse the former president. and do we know what kind of a deal was done? what promises were made? >> what kind of a deal is done? >> here are rfk today essentially say that donald trump is that he wants to in his administration, donald publicly has not gone that far. >> i asked donald trump earlier in the week if he would consider r. ford administration post. he said yes, although he also said he hadn't thought of that yet. let's that happened in the last couple of days that rfk might have had some kind of conversation or at least it might have been communicated between the two camps. >> we also know this came to be, as i said, is there was a sense of urgency around kamala harris sending to the top of the ticket some of the people who are pushing this the hardest were tucker carlson, don junior and they've omeed malik, who is a donor and friend to both rfk and donald trump. they believe, again,
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that this was something that would help donald trump in the long run in november. so they began pushing this was sort of orbit talking to orbit before it moved to an official stance of rfk suspending his campaign, as you noted, dropping out and endorsing donald trump. it was kind of a strange moment. i agree when we were sitting in that room with rfk and he said he wasn't ending his campaign. he was just suspending it, but then went on to say that he was taking his name off the ballot or reversing some of the challenges that he had made, particularly in these battleground states, some clear what exactly he meant by that. nazi spending on ending his campaign, but just suspending it. >> but clearly, he has something in his head there and i will tell you, i was told that he is going to be on the campaign trail for donald trump. and with donald trump in the coming weeks. all right. >> kristen holmes, thanks very much after robert f. kennedy jr. endorsed trump, five of his siblings issued this statement, which i'll read in its entirety and i quote we want an america filled with hope and bound together by a shared vision of a brighter future, a future defined by individual freedom, economic promise, and
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national pride we believe in harris and walz are brother, bobby's decision to endorse trump today is a betrayal of the values that our father and family hold most dear it is a sad ending to a sad story. that's from kathleen kennedy townsend, courtney kennedy, kerry kennedy, chris kennedy and rory kennedy, joined now by another member of the kennedy family, robert f. kennedy junior's cousin, former congressman patrick kennedy, son of the late senator ted kennedy patrick, it's good to see you, congressman. thanks for being with us what is it like to i mean, on a personal level? we'll seeing your cousin with the former president. and do you agree with the statement of his siblings that this is a betrayal of the values your family holds dear so i love bobby al-awda. >> he is we got to spend a lot of time this summer together. we all live next to each other and on cape cod and the summertime and my kids were playing over at his house and were on the beach together. i think of him as a cousin than this you know, case of him supporting president trump,
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obviously, there's nothing about donald trump that is anywhere close to root reflecting the legacy of robert kennedy's father. and my uncle, president kennedy, my dad, anyone in my family? you know, our family believes in democracy. we believe in the fact that my uncles, one of whom laid down his life in world war war ii, fighting hitler over germany, got shot down i mean, there were many veterans who were laid to rest in arlington cemetery who took on fashion this as we know in the oath to office, we have to protect our country and its constitution both foreign and domestic. and i think we thought the foreign wars against fascism. but now of course, where waging a war, if you will, against fascism here at home because this is a campaign by donald trump that
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wants to really terrorize people with the notion that government can easily come after them. this is so far afield from what we in the united states to him to be part of our very much take up. and you go to other parts of the world. we worry about government coming in and gotten up, went arresting you in the middle of the night, like the idea that we would have a government under donald trump that could threaten the very nature of what our democracy is all about, isn't you talk to, i mean, you're talking about senior your cousin. >> i mean, you you believe he's joined a ticket which is promoting fascism and leading may lead to fascism in america. >> do you talk to him about that i mean, all families look, have difference of opinions and we've all sat around dinner tables with relatives who think completely differently than we think so. everybody can relate to this. but is that something you talked about or is it not
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worth engaging on you know, to me, it's not worth engaging on. i did talk to him earlier in the campaign about not competing in those swing states where i felt that he could cost us the election. he chose not to do that. >> and at that point my effort to try to keep them from jeopardize saying in that case president biden's reelection, it was a non-starter that said, i think we you know, we all are fighting each other in this country. it's one of the major problems, so we have and i don't want us to have that all spill into my family next door to us. >> as i said, my kids, we have a good time together when we're on the ocean. i really i don't want to get into bashing my cousin i understand and so i just i have a feeling is i
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mean, my big issue as you know, anderson because you've had me on talking about his mental health and addiction and why i'm so pumped about harris and walt is harris as part of the biden-harris, have done more for mental health than any other president in our history governor waltz keynoted the kennedy forum last year. it's just before you. so obviously even in the thought of anybody at being a future vice president, he spent five hours with the whole mental health advocacy community talking about mental health. we now know his personal passion having watched all of us with great emotion as his son, gus, embraced him and governor walz soon to be vice president walt will carry our nation forward with mental health and addiction policies. we can count on that. >> i didn't like i do i do
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want to i just want to inform our viewers something that jack schlossberg, prison kennedy's grandson, posted online about this. he says never been less surprised in my life. and saying it for over a year, rfk junior's for sale works for trump bedfellows and loving it. kamala harris is for the people the easiest decision of all time. just got easier i don't know if he formally endorsed harris walz. i a.i. >> i. am a huge fan. i'm going on the road to campaign for the next president and vice president united states, as i said, i know governor walz, i served with them in congress. as i said, we've been friends over the years and, he spent five hours. we had a day long event and around how to improve our mental health and addiction system 90% american screen for mental health within ten years, 90% treated with evidence-based treatment, 90% supported in recovery. we wouldn't expect any less if there were any
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other illness. and yet we look for less than 20% of americans getting any of that today in this country, so much more needs to be done. >> former congressman patrick kennedy, i really appreciate your time. thank you thank perspective. now, from david axelrod, former senior adviser to president obama, ashley etienne, former communications director to vice president harris, and scott jennings, former special assistant to president george w bush, david does it make sense to you that he says he's not ending his campaign, he's just suspending it and he's going to be on the ballots in some states, but not a battleground states because he doesn't want to hurt donald trump in those states. >> well, first, anderson, let me say i watched some of his press conference today and there were a lot of things he said that didn't necessarily make a lot of sense to me. but from what i divined, what he was saying is he will continue to compete in states where he doesn't think he'll have an impact on the outcome of the race or the he'll compete in blue states and red states, but he won't compete in
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battleground states, which mean that just seems like a vanity thing, like just he wants to stay in the game, wants to have supporters out on the streets waving his name around. it just seems that that act i mean i don't think you have to be i don't think it's a great leap to suggest that it might be a vanity thing. i think this whole exercise has been a vanity thing. the thing that's concerning it should be concerning but it, does give you a clue as to what impact he might have is the fact that the trump campaign, he said at the press conference don junior and others have been soliciting him and he's had a series of conversations that j.d. vance confirm that they believe that he's going out of the race in these battles. well, grand states can yield the presidency to donald trump. and i think we had this discussion the other night with john king. i think that it may be a point that that is gained in these states for trump. but these states may
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be decided by a point or less than a point. so the fact that that apparently he's talked about taking a position in the administration, something that harris wouldn't do the whole thing kind of stinks in a away. >> scott, i mean, you're not what the trump campaign, but how concerned are what do you think about this? and will it help in? because in some of those swing states, is this, is this a deciding factor you think i mean there's going to great question. >> i look, i think by the way, it was wonderful to be with you both in chicago all week, we had we had great convention together i think that comment be had here yeah thanks. >> x i think there are votes to be had here. that's why trump's doing it. i look at some of the polling and the trump campaign has some analysis at the polling. they think most of the people who are still with rfk are going to come towards trump if they vote so obviously the transaction is, i got to get, i got to get
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some votes that's number one. however, what you can't no. but what i think is probable is the other side of the algebra, which is getting embed with a looney tunes, may have consequences. i mean, there may be people out there who know rfk junior's history of being a complete liberal provocateur before he became a conservative provocateur and say i'm not sure i want to be embed with this at all, so i see the impulse to do it. i understand the polling equation. he's got some boats you want to try to capture them. >> but there may be a cost to it because obviously he says and does things that are kind of weird. >> and any has done that for a very long time and i would just caution the trump folks, don't get so deep embed you can and get out of it because take you down rabbit holes, you you don't want to go yet. >> actually, again, i just find remarkable that he's still going to he's still wants his name on the ballot in a bunch of states, not in the one towards going to hurt trump. he still wants in i drove by a group of rfk junior's supporters last night leaving the convention they had like a
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van they were playing music and had right waving around flags like, i guess he likes that there's people out there who are actually dedicating days of their lives to waiving his name around, but it just seems to what affected this point other than supporting donald trump well, i mean, i think you're absolutely right. >> i've always thought that this was a vanity project, but, you know, also i thought he was in the race to not just disrupt the race, but to disrupt it in a way that supports his own interests. i mean, now he's been shopping himself around to both campaigns, trying to get a cabinet position, but i think scott is absolutely right. this creates an opportunity for democrats to further define republicans as extreme as conspiracy theories or as governor walz says, just plain weird. i mean, you have someone who says that he believes that there's chemicals in our water that's making kids transgender that he things broadband is causing cancer. this is this is the democrats like a it's like
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a wish list. it's like a dream for democrats. it's like continue down this path of defining the new republican party, the maga party, as extreme conspiracy theories that are just out of step and auto line with me here. can people, so this i think to some degree it plays to harris in her favor if she can take advantage of it, but also, the polls show that there's a sizable number of kennedy supporters that are independents and never trumpers who she could still play for. the campaign, put out a statement today saying that they're going to they're going to make overtures to those those voters. >> david, do you think that there are rfk junior voters that this may that harris could get i think she's gotten most of them. >> if you see after she entered the race, his vote really deflated and a lot of those votes were democrats who were parking themselves over with rfk and they can in back to the democratic party when there was a switch at the top of the ticket there may be some that she can get, but again, i
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don't think that trump would have made a deal with bobby kennedy if he thought that it wasn't going to help him, anderson, i just have to say one thing. my political hero in one of the formative heroes in my life was bobby kennedy, his father, who was a guy who was incredibly thoughtful at the end of his career about justice and economic justice this and civil rights and really was a global leader for human rights and as his family said, he you know, it's just antithetical to everything that he stood for. it's sad to me. i listened to a press conference today and he's not a well man. i mean, i'm not a professional. i can't make that judgment. and after listening to patrick kennedy, who is a champion of mental health, i don't want to use that term lightly, but you can't listen to him and say
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that they're everything's okay. and the fact that he was out on display hey, by donald trump tonight i agree with ash ashley, it's it is it reflects something about that campaign, but at the end of the day, it's still, i think he's there because they think he's going to help them win ashley, do you think it was a mistake? i mean, they're they're reports that the harris campaign wouldn't even really talk to him that he made outreach to both trump and harris was that a mistake for the harris campaign to not you know, entertain something with him? >> absolutely. no. there was more downside than there was upside to her talking to him. i mean, none of their they're not aligned in terms of their vision for the nation, in terms of policy, in terms of the challenge facing the american people today. i mean, i saw today, where he tried to co-opt a lot of her messaging on freedom and supporting the middle-class as but the reality is that's not where his
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policies are. that's not where donald trump's policies are. so i don't i didn't see any upside for her to have that conversation. it just would have done more damage than good. >> scott, how do you think he'll be used on the campaign trail? >> well it sounds like he's interested in going out there and being part of the public display, you have surrogates in every campaign. and look, let's be honest with his last name. he's going to be one of the most famous surrogates. i mean, that's ultimately what makes his candidacy interesting if his name were bob johnson of idaho no one would care i mean, bagley, his last name is kennedy and he carries it with him everywhere he goes. it makes him a draw. so my suspicion is there going to put them out there. but when you put somebody out there as a surrogate, you got to live with everything they say and everything this guy says could be problematic out on the stump. so am again, i think the polling anderson shows that acts is exactly right. the democrats had already fled back to harris. there's probably a few trump supporters in here, but the downstream consequences
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here are hard to quantify and it would worry me a little bit if i were managing the campaign. >> interesting, everybody. thank you. appreciate it everybody stay there. were going to come back more on a critical robert f. kennedy junior's endorsement could be for the foreign president putting some sound i'm from the rally that is still going on as we speak was how this endorsement fits the way that harris-walz campaign is frame the former president and his team, which can be summed up in that word, they use a lot weird anderson cooper 360 is brought to you by tebe visit sounds like td.com kate made progress with their mental health, but her medication caused unintentional movements in her face, hands, and feet called tardive dyskinesia or td so her doctor prescribed else seto exon, a once-daily extended release td treatment for adults costello xr significantly reduced cases it's tv movements. some people saw response as early as two weeks with us seto xr, kate can stay
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>> the chemicals out of our food and don't you want the regulatory agencies to be free from corporate corruption and that's what president trump told me that he wanted. also told me that he wanted to end the grip of the neo-cons on u.s. foreign policy back now with our panel, david, i mean, you were working for then candidate barack obama and in 2008 when the kennedy family endorsed him over hillary clinton. that was a huge moment for, for obama. i'm wondering just seeing rfk junior on that stage. what goes through your mind that he's trying to defeat come? why harris, who is obviously been compared to barack obama in many ways look, i mean, as i said earlier when ted kennedy stood up in 90 92,000 and caroline kennedy
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with him and patrick for the three of them. >> it was a it was a watershed moment in that campaign because they stood for the ideals of the democratic party. and it was like a torch passing to a new generation of leaders their ship that stood for the ideals of john kennedy, of robert kennedy and ted kennedy that's not what this is. this is a guy selling out, selling himself out to donald trump, apparently for a job if he can get one who is, who is sort of gone around and the bannon is a conspiracy theory provocateur, dangerous on some issues like vaccines but has a following and they think he can help them win. last night, kamala harris said that trump was not trump was an unserious man. this is, this
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but he could have very serious consequences if he's elected. this is what's so interesting to me about it is that it's rare in this day and age that you see something so transactional. >> so obviously transactional just played out publicly. i mean, usually it's like behind the scenes and it's not the idea. i think robert f. kennedy junior's sen. videotaped his father talking to trump on the phone and i know what his father was allegedly upset by a didn't know about it and it was taken down but it's interesting. i mean, if this has all played out publicly, the idea that he reached out to the harris campaign, reached out the trump campaign obviously, trump's smelled a reason to do this has sort of embraced him for now. who knows what promises were made? who knows if a promise will be kept given the folks we're dealing
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with, but it is just it's so interesting, just kinda see us so publicly play out yeah i mean, i think there's a reason to played out publicly because the person who's in the middle of it, rfk junior, wants it to play out publicly because he wants the attention i mean i mean, some of this is just about ego attention that the search for relevance in a world of our politics right now that, you know, in a close election, i guess he thought he could find it you know, it's i look, i do think this there are lots of american voters who are very, very anti-institution. >> they think the institutions have failed. they think they're being lied to by government and corporations et cetera, et cetera, and so on. he asli, there is an audience for what he is selling, at least on some fronts. and it's that kind of anti-institutional sentiment that i guess he sees more of himself and trump than he sees in harris. you get the marketing appeal of it. but when you really look deeply into it and you see what's probably motivating him you
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know, the personal search for relevance and the personal search for influence and an administration maybe some of his supporters won't see him. as pure as they once did but i totally agree with you, anderson, the idea that this whole spectacle is playing out in front of us and the transactional faced by the way, i think there are a laws against promising people jobs before you get get into an administration like this, they do have to be careful about that. >> ashley, because michelle obama spoke and i don't have the direct quote, but about the affirmative action about people like trump, who she said had failed forward and just talked about the affirmative action of inherited wealth. >> i mean robert f. >> kennedy jr. is the poster child for anybody can look up his past that at harvard, there was just an article about alleging he was selling cocaine and to students he's talked
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he's been very open about his own struggles with addiction but i didn't go much on the brain worm story because i felt i felt bad for him that he had a worm in his brain as unusual is that that may be but i mean there's the 2014 he said he placed a dead bear cub in new york central park after he founded on the side of the road and the hudson valley, which i'll play a clip of that is driving up maybe you know, really early like seven woman front of me hitting him there and killed it a young there i pulled over and i picked up the bear and put them in the back of my van because i would spend the skin the bear and it was very good condition and i was just going with the beat my refrigerator. >> and you can do that bear in
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road, killed there yeah. >> that's roseanne. he was talking to two and then he went on to say he'd gotten delayed at peter luger steakhouse with the dead bear in his car and then he remembered he had to catch a plane. so he drove the dead bear cub to central park to dump it there with a bicycle to make it look like the bear was killed by a bike i don't even have a question here. i just wanted to say all due laundered into central part there. i mean, i did it just last night i mean, i grew up in the city. i didn't know there was an option i raised this before. what are the valet think? >> what i mean? >> even rosen's face. i mean, even roseanne seem to think that was odd and i got to say that exactly anyway, it's been a long week, ashley. thank you. david, extra. scott jennings. thank you very much. coming up. the democratic party strategy to make the foreign president, it seems small. there were plenty of zingers. the dnc, is that a smart move former u.s.
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consequences but the consequences of putting donald trump back in the white house are extremely serious. >> you know, when i was teaching every year, we'd elected student body president. and you know what those teenagers could teach donald trump a hell of a lot about what a leader is join me now, someone who served as u.s. >> senator from everyone wants a state of minnesota communion. al franken and former senator al franken i want to talk about the convention the second, just in terms of robert f. kennedy jr. what do you make of him? this choice that he's made? >> well, i think the bear cub was was it that you think that was the breaking point? >> i think that was the breaking point well, i don't know what was he added before, like 9% or 10% and then suddenly down five and 6%, yeah maybe harris is entering my eye
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last time. >> i didn't hear, you were talking about it. yeah. i was i was going to the details because he went to peter luger steakhouse with the bear in the trunk. >> that was a thing he found this bear cub on the side of the road and inside he might want to eat it for dinner, right? >> as does who hasn't not thought had that after you've been falcon that we'll see other nice detail so he goes into the city and then he realizes he has dinner at luger as a steakhouse. >> this guy like he likes his meets, he likes me and then he also realizes he's got a plane to catch after dinner. so he really doesn't have time first of all, he's got to have dinner. he's having dinner in any way so there's the bear. >> the bear is that's the bear. that's him with his bare in the back. >> well, very he's got a sense of humor you saying he's right he's posing with the dead bear pending the dead bear is biting. yes. not quite as
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jacked up there, i will say as he is now, but it takes the bear any dumps it in the park, right? yes. yes. >> bike. >> so that because so that people would think think that but a bike collided bear, bear. yeah. >> i'm not sure where the bike came from. >> i think he must have been bobby's bike, but i don't know. >> he just dropped like in juniors, it just had the bike in his car for those purposes to tell now, cunning, you have a bite to move quickly. i don't know. yeah, it's it's it's yeah, it can't make it up do you think it will help trump in the swing state i don't know. >> i think it's hard to tell. >> i mean, who are the 5%, who are people who are left? are they people who are maybe they're going to stay home, right? >> yeah. >> or maybe they're going to equally divide between harris. i mean, does his endorsement means a lot to these people, right you know governor walz,
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you were like you for his first race. >> he talked about running for congress he was he was a high school teacher a coach. everybody knows that most people know that story by now. but when he chose to run, he said he had no money, no real connections, but he just decided to go for it. >> yeah. i went to somebody's house for fundraiser. my wife and i went there was nobody else there and they had to mortgages on their house. >> this is when he was running for his first campaign for his first for in the successor, you have to understand this is the southern tier of message rural district and has a couple of cities and it has rochester where the mayo clinic is and it has mankato where he he's show up, nobody's there except show up. >> no one's there. me, my wife, and his incredibly great and so as giving his pitch to you, basically, those living room, yeah. >> and the host and so i just
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by wife and i fell in love with them and i said, well, and then we max to him and i had a pac at the time, political action committee. and it max to them and then i hosted some kind of big fundraiser for me. >> what was it about him? >> because he the guy we saw on the stage, was he liked that already. are you as clearly not as polished know? but what was it about him, but his essence was as essence was not polished, but it is essence was there, right. and i immediately like the man and we did a fundraiser where we got them enough money so he could keep going and i've started campaign with them around the six and rahm emanuel was head of the d triple c at the time. and i called him up and i go this guy is incredibly talented and he goes, he can't win it can't win. >> no, because it was it was a red district. >> it's a completely red district and i think no one had
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one democrat, not one since the 1800s or something like that. and so i just kept going around the sixth district with him and introducing him and he and i kept calling rahm up or his guy, rahm's guy. and say, you got to support this guy and then one day, if finally got a call from rahm's guys said we're going to put $50,000 in the mankato. and i said mankato oh, i'm sorry. i got none, none, none. i'll call mom. could you get $50,000 and so they did and then he he ended up winning and how was he able to do that in a red district? >> he's a great campaigner and it was also that was 06 and 06 was the year that democrats took over the congress. >> so even though war, the war in iraq, even though this was his first campaign, i mean, you
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were out on the trail with him he was he was connecting with people. that's what that was. the bottom line. yeah. >> and you go to college campuses and connect with the college kids and they volunteer me. he did it all the right way, but it took it just took a while to bill. what did you make of his of his speech at seeing his convention was done there? oh, yeah. >> in it saying that's my dad. i mean, as somebody who has to dads, like i dream that my kids will one day say that about me. very well but he i know no, i was very moved by it. >> and of course, there are some people criticize, it, which is crazy and but no, what a beautiful moment. >> yeah, that's going dad. yeah. it's the best we're out of time, but i would love to talk to you longer okay you know, what let's go to. put luger say, yes can't, let's go there, find a bear yeah. >> well know, not on a day, i find a bear he roasted a dog.
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did you hear this? >> i heard i saw it some sort of a picture. i was actually a dog according to jonathan alter who said he checked up on it? that yes. he received where the worm from the brain worm could have come from. i would think senator franken, thank you for your time. you bet. i appreciate it up next a cnn investigation and how donald trump's businesses are making millions of dollars from republican political campaigns, including his own some are means millions flocked to america's national parks. but nature can turn disastrous when tourists has crossed the line she started by my left leg, my initial thought was new, definitely in a dei the whole story with anderson cooper sunday at 8:00 on cnn not every decision you made will be as good as getting a volkswagen savvy vw summer sales event
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businesses. here's kim law my new book, save america published by winning team published a is now available for order in the ways you already know former president trump publicly makes money selling books and bibles. god bless the usa bible gold seekers surreal and trading cards. >> it's called the america first collection. >> it's at trump properties like mar-a-lago, trump's opulent florida home, where republican campaign dollars are pouring into trump's own pocket more than 150 congressional candidates and political groups have spent millions at trump properties and associated businesses according to a cnn analysis of federal campaign finance data with 2024 on track to be the biggest year of spending since 2016 the vast majority of the candidates are republican and most endorsed by trump a vote for trump and merino is a vote
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to put america first. a clear example is ohio businessman bernie moreno, a political novice who made his fortune selling luxury cars. the same month, marino announced his run for the u.s. senate last year, he spent $13,000 on event catering at trump's mar-a-lago the same day, one of the payments was made, trump posted on truth social. moreno is a highly respected businessman, was thinking of running for the senate. trump endorsed moreno months later, calling him a maga fighter, two days after the endorsement, marino spent $17,000 at mar-a-lago and a month later, 80,000 more on a fundraiser at the private club, attended by some in trump's inner circle. >> we asked her year of florida is that we get bring him here to the president we can, share with you. >> marino is now locked in a competitive battle for ohio's senate seat with trump by his side. >> he's a hero. he's a winner that coincidence of this
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significant spending nearly coinciding with a trump endorsement doesn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that there has been a bribe that pattern does ensured. >> raise questions in the minds of voters about what's really going on here. >> incredible carolina will do everything in my power to make sure this man gets back in the white house. >> we need him now more than ever, another republican endorsed by trump is also one of mar-a-lago's top political spenders. this year alone, arizona senate candidate kari lake's campaign spent more than $100,000 on lodging, catering, and facility rentals other top spenders at trump i'm properties include retired football star and former georgia republican senate candidate herschel walker, his campaign spent the most of any congressional candidate in the last decade, nearly 200 and
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$215,000 at mar-a-lago, trump's golf club in west palm beach, and his las vegas hotel not only georgia hero he is at american legend. >> trump endorsed walker, who would go on to lose his race. political groups also dropped big money at trump's businesses. the rnc spending more than 2 million since 2016. but at the top spot by far is donald trump himself, whose campaigns and associated political committees have funneled more than 28 million and political contributions to his businesses from renting his ballroom to his campaign to using election donations to pay for his private jet. trump force, one trump, the candidate has been paying trump, the businessman. >> it's not illegal the law is that candidates can spend money at their own businesses provided that the businesses provide real goods or services at a fair market rate. but it's certainly raises at least an appearance self-dealing that
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is very concerning. i'm from a corruption standpoint in a statement, the trump campaign told cnn these allegations are false, adding committees are paying the fair market rate for all venues and services kamala joins me now, what are the candidates who trump has endorsed have to say about all this well, anderson, as you can imagine, they think it's just fine. spokespersons for both bernie moreno and herschel walker's say that their mar-a-lago fundraisers were wildly successful and herschel walker added that these known trump for 40 years at his events had nothing to do with the endorsements. we did reach out to the kari lake campaign but did not hear back anderson. gentlemen. thanks. coming up next dangerous wild animal encounters inside yellowstone, america's oldest national park. cnn's ed lavendera investigates the shots you got to take was on it it's been
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