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were to tell you what this signals about the war and what was supposed to be an eight day trip will now last eight months-worth. tell you what nasa is when nasa is saying it will finally be able to bring to astronauts back to earth. i'm omar jimenez with sara sidner, john berman, and kate baldwin around this cnn news central this morning, the new dispute over the presidential debate, kamala harris, donald trump's scheduled to face off september 15 on abc, but now a battle over debate details may have put that a bit up in the air at issue, the microphones, the harris team wants mics lie for both candidates during the entire debate, but the trump camp i'm says that's not what they agreed to before trump. >> now, putting the whole event in potential doubt, questioning on truth, social, why he should go through with the debate? keep in the first place, cnn's priscilla alvarez and alayna treene are joining us now,

priscilla first to you what are you hearing about this debate drama while that the dispute is really those microphones as the only remaining issue that joe biden now, of course, it's vice president kamala harris and the harris campaign believes that the mics should be on over the duration of the presidential debate next month. >> and they say in a statement, this from a senior campaign official, brian fallon, quote, our understanding is that trump's handlers prefer the muted microphone because they don't think their candidate can act presidential for 90 minutes on his own because on to say we suspect trump's team has not even told their boss about this dispute because it would be too embarrassing to admit they don't think he can handle himself against vice president harris, without the benefit of a mute button, of course, the former president taking to social media over the

weekend talking about this debate. but clearly the harris campaign needling him a little bit here. and of course, the trump campaign has suggested that the harris campaign had one wanted the candidates to be seated for there to be notes. the harris campaign is pushing back on that saying that really, again, this is a feud about whether the mics should be on or off. now, the vice president is doing a lot of debate preparations ahead of that september 10 presidential debate. she already started this earlier in the month. that's expected to continue over the next two weeks as was doubled down on that with some travel here and there. that includes this week going to the battleground state of georgia. of course, that's a state that president biden only won by less than 12,000 votes. so it is one of those battlegrounds that is going to be closely watched by everyone especially these campaigns and so it's fitting that the vice president who now vice presidential nominee tim walz, will be kicking off their bus tour there this week and then concluding that with rally with

the vice president. so clearly, as they try to sort out these debate preparations behind the scenes and these issues over the mics. they are also still trying to keep a focus on the battlegrounds all right. >> thank you to you, alayna treene now, trump campaign, clearly chiming in on this debate issue, lots of other things being focused on as well. what are you hearing? >> that's exactly right, sara. so i'm going to read for you just quickly what donald trump's senior adviser, jason miller said in response to some of the back-and-forth over this impasse around whether or not the mic should be on. he wrote, quote enough with the games we accepted the abc debate under the exact same terms as the cnn debate. the statement so went on to say, we said no changes to the agreed upon rules. so look, i think the interesting thing about this is that actually in the lead to the cnn debate, it was the biden campaign that had wanted the microphones to be shut off when one of the candidates was finished speaking the trump campaign initially had

criticized that, but now they're saying we actually it's really want that to remain. we want the mics to be able to be shut off a when a candidate is not speaking part of that is because i remember in the leadup to the cnn debate, they had changed their minds closer to debate day thinking that perhaps having the mic shutoff could focus trump that he wouldn't go on to ramble, he wouldn't speak over his opponent. that thinking is still the same in the lead up to this september 10 debate. and quickly on that as well, just to give you a sense of the debate preparations that are happening with the trump campaign. they are still doing what they are calling quote, unquote policy sessions to prepare. that means no formal debate preparations know mock debating instead, donald trump has been meeting and informal settings with policy experts, outside allies, lawmakers, including tulsi gabbard a former democratic congresswoman of ohio, excuse me, of hawaii then turned independent. she's been helping them study up on how to go against harris because she actually had debated harris in the past end some news here

tulsi gabbard is actually objected to endorse the former president today. so stay tuned for that, but also this our sara, just to be very quick on this, is that donald trump, any moment now is going to be attending a ceremony at the arlington national cemetery and this comes on the three-year anniversary of the withdrawal of troops from from afghanistan. and this has been a very key point of messaging for the trump campaign. this is something donald trump has repeatedly railed against for against president joe biden. but now vice president harris and what they've been trying to do, and i think you'll see this happen this hour when donald trump gets there and starts or you can see him now engaging in the city ceremony. if he does make remarks, i think you'll hear him try to blame harris for part of that withdrawal which she has continuously said was a bad move on the path of the biden administration that they handled it very poorly. i think you'll hear a lot of that today at this visit. >> and just to note here, we're watching these live pictures at

the arlington national cemetery as the soldiers who were killed in that afghanistan withdrawal are being run remembered, and honored donald trump there standing and listening at this hour, just when you look at this scene, we know that he's also headed to talk to the national guard convention where kamala harris was also invited. what are you expecting to hear from him when he makes his speech? there at the end of their convention right? >> i mean, i think look, what donald trump is going to try to do is say that he is the person who is fighting for the troops. are you seeing that today with this visit, arlington national no cemetery, but that will also be the message that they have when he addresses that national guard conference. and i think as well, remember a key line of attack from both trump as well as his running mate j.d. vance, has been against harris is running mate tim walz's military record and some of the comments he has made about

seeing military combat and then walking those comments back. that is something as well that i think you should definitely keep in mind when you when you you see that visit to the national guard summit because of course tim walz was in the national guard for 24 years. vance for his part also served in the military, though. he was deployed abroad to the middle east, he did not actually serve in combat. there's gonna be some of that comparison as well and as we know, a lot of the talk around some of these military records has become very nasty, very personal. many people telling trump to move away from those attacks. but as we know, he sometimes can help himself. >> he had the whole snafu talking about the congressional medal of honor and the congressional medal of freedom and that quite a few veterans there. so we'll see this part of the cleanup of that and also a recognition of what happened in afghanistan, alayna treene and priscilla alvarez thank you to you, both omar. >> well, joining us now to talk about a whole bunch of things. of course, senior correspondent at the grio, natasha alford.

thanks for being here all right so as we just saw, trump is at arlington national cemetery right now for the honoring of some of those killed on this anniversary. but i want to go back a little bit to the debate portion of things between he and kamala harris, which is scheduled for september 10, but a lot of the debate about the debate right now, at least from the harris side of things, is they want the mics to be hot the whole time. i guess my question to you is, what is the benefit to harris if the mics are hot the whole time? do you see he this has a good strategy it's interesting when we watched the last debate with donald trump and joe biden it was, it was painful at times to watch if felt as if there wasn't the sort of natural exchange that you would expect. >> i think there is some benefit when you are debating and you can see one candidates instant reaction to the other. and so the formality of it took

away some of that excitement. >> it exposed against some weaknesses in both candidates. and perhaps they want this element of just true exchange between the two, not just repeating a talking point points asked, answering question directly, but also be able to see how the candidates respond to each other. >> i think harris is sharp. again, she has this prosecutorial background and so that could make for some interesting and lively exchanges. and they want to bring that element back to the conversation and of course, look, this, this debate was at least perceived and created under the under the pretense that it would be joe biden versus donald trump? >> at least this whole debate season. and now it's kamala harris versus donald trump. obviously. but if you're trump's camp how different of a debate does this become based on? again, what we saw in the first debate with joe biden

versus donald trump versus because what is expected to be the second one well, it's a totally different conversation, right? >> donald trump has gained a lot of momentum over the past year, being able to beat up on joe biden for his age, for the style, the way that he talks. and so this is a totally different race now, because of the candidate. and i think that that's factoring into some of the hesitancy, some of the back-and-forth. but let's be honest, donald trump has been boasting. he's been saying, you know, any time, any place, right. so if he's really confident than he should have no problem going toe to toe with kamala harris. what's the concern? what's the fear if he's so confident in his policy positions, if he's so confident in the fact that his critiques of the biden-harris administration our strong enough for the american public to support him. so i see this as just another excuse frankly,

for a campaign that is anxious that they're seeing the momentum that kamala harris has and they haven't quite figured out how to attack her, how to engage with her. and so they're trying and to use this as an excuse to sort of delay and say that this is a matter of the harris team changing things when really if there's so confident, then they'll just show up and have the debate and i want to bring it back up. some of the live pictures we've been monitoring out of arlington national cemetery because that's where donald trump is today. he is honoring at least there for that, honoring ceremony for those killed in this attack. now, on this anniversary and look, he has gotten himself into some trouble over his description, over over military veterans, over description of at least reporting around those that were actually captured and even killed in some cases, politically, if you're looking at this display as a voter what

is the first thing that comes to mind if you were to put yourself in a swing voters shoes as a daughter of a military veteran, as someone who comes from a military family service is something that we should honor and we should respect. and so i think that regardless of political party taking the time to honor and remember those who sacrifice for our freedoms. that's something that should happen. again this, that should not be a political thing. >> but i do think voters should look at the long record of donald trump, not just what he says in this moment, not the way that he defends these recent comments that have come up around the congressional medal of honor versus another award. >> i think they should really think about the way that he has let's talk about service members of the call that he made to that one family where he almost didn't remember the

military service members mean he didn't say it out loud. >> all of those things they should look at his long record as they think about their decision when they go to vote in november natasha alford. thanks so much for being here as always sir. >> all right. thank you, omar. it's an important day for trump allies charged in the arizona fake electors sir, case. i hearing could determine if a conviction needs a prison sentence for a lesser penalty plus a nightmare in ukraine, russia launches a wide jailed, deadly attack on cities across that country and dozens of people had to be rescued after flash flooding hits the grand canyon. we speak to one woman who is escaped. those rushing waters, all the stores more ahead you're still going to win class president will be slogan, wow, working on campaign posters yet, well, in my experience, the best campaign slogans are short and memorable

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campaign. but today's hearing reminds us that several of his closest allies including his former white house chief of staff, still face significant legal exposure here in this key swing-state, you'll remember that 18 individuals were criminally charged by a grand jury for an arizona for their efforts allegedly participating in a conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election results on they include rudy giuliani, as you've mentioned, christina bobb, who's currently the top lawyer for election integrity at the republican national committee. boris epstein, who also remained it's very close to the former president's. so today's hearing will be the first of many pivotal hearings in this case, as defense attorneys are going to try to get the charges against their clients thrown out. these individuals phase nine felony counts from conspiracy to fraudulent documents related to this fake elector certificates. we're also going to hear defense attorneys argue that prosecutors are trying to impose overly harsh sentencing using arizona state law. all in an effort to try to basically convict these individuals as multiple time offenders rather than first-time offenders. if

the judge sides with defense or when prosecutors in that motion, these individuals could face likely prison sentences if ultimately convicted. so a lot on the line here, i talked to one defense attorney for a trump ally who said the stakes couldn't the higher in this case well, i'm glad we have you there and pheneas to keep an eye on everything. >> zach cohen always appreciate it. >> sir all right. thank you. omar. later today, the bipartisan congressional task force investigating the assassination attempt on donald trump we'll visit the butler, pennsylvania site where a gunman injured the former president and killed a father and firefighter joining us now republican congressman mike kelly. thank you so much for joining us. today. butler, pennsylvania, your hometown. you were also the chairman of the congressional task force investigation of the trump assassination attempt. thank you, sir, for coming in today for us first of all, i know you were there in the audience with three of your grandchildren when this shooting happened, can you just give me a sense? of what your experience was on

the ground that day. it gives you even better insight into the investigation. now that you are ahead of that yeah sara, thanks for having me on. >> i appreciate it. i think that that particular event for whatever reason, there was more chaos was just seemed to me that things weren't organized my wife and three of my grandchildren plus my oldest son, were there so. >> for, me, when this all started, it was almost so realistic. >> you hear the shots go off, you see the president grabbed the side of his head and go down in behind me in the grandstands a lady is talking about somebody's hurt, somebody's hurt and i'm trying to find my wife my grandkids, and my son, and then i was sitting beside me was marc fogel of the teacher. the diplomatic teacher who was in russia. of trying to shield her. it was just one of those things. everybody don't get down, get down. it was just like total chaos until the president stood up and put his hand in the urn, said fight and it just like all of a sudden

things came back together again. but this whole unwinding from the detroit where whoever made whoever made the decision to come to butler and that's fine. i get all that, but i want to follow through on from what happened from the time that decision was made until 11 minutes after 6:00. that afternoon when the when the shooter tried to take out president trump, but there was too much in-between there. that's chaotic and trying to put it together now it's going to be the biggest effort for the task force you have lots of video, you have lots of eyewitnesses and of course you have the secret service and the other police officers are local officers. >> that are all there on the ground as well. nevermind all of the witnesses that were in the stands. i do want to ask you about butler, pennsylvania. you had said that you said it again, that you're not sure that that was the right place for trump to be doing his rally. why was that in did you express that to the trump team as they made this? they're rallying point in pennsylvania that day yeah. >> that's why i said earlier.

from the very concept of coming to butler. and then when i was notified that they were coming in, they said that while they're gonna be at the butler farm show, i said no, no, no, you can't do it there that's site is too small the entry and exit is going to be difficult. it would be it would be very hard to have it there. and the what i was told was that what we've already made a determination and i said, well, who did the site visit and who's doing the coordination because when president trump comes into western pennsylvania the last time he was here was in october of 2020, over 50,000 people showed up and the response i got, well, you have it that was then this is now the probably be only six or 7,000 people. oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. >> this is going to be a massive proud of. it can be a massive group of people coming in. i just don't think the infrastructure holds up. there's only a two lane highway in and half of that highway was under construction or reconstruction so my concern from the very beginning was the site wasn't the right site to

handle what i know because i've been to so many trump rallies what the size of the rally was going to be, and it was i think from that point on, i was disturbed that that was the decision than that there was no there was no compromising. and then sara, as you know, going forward, it's the preparation for everything that is the most important part of any event that's taking place anytime people are going to get together, what's preparation? who all was involved and what was the information that was shared? what were the assignments that were already put into place? and that's where i am right now it just didn't make sense to me from the very beginning. >> i have more quick questions for you, senator ron johnson has reportedly said that the secret service of the secret service and the fbi, that they're basically dragging their feet in his words, there stonewalling us. is that what you're experiencing as you look into this case while we've we've requested reports from both the fbi and then secret service. >> we want everything that has

taken place we're ready in both jason crow and myself, we requested that i think we've gotten partially what we were looking for, but we don't have the transparency that i think in this case and i think there's one thing that everybody should be concerned with. >> this this has happened in the past and people have walked away from either be the kennedy assassination or things that have happened after that with never having a clear picture of what happened, who was charged that day, and how do we how do we make sure it doesn't happen again? the transparency is going to be the most important thing. >> we have the duty more than anything else. >> and i know there's a lot of people trying to rush to get something out there. we have the responsibility that when we're done with this, the american people will then have the faith, that trust, and the confidence that they have to have on these type of task force and on these different agencies that were involved that day, i think when we stonewall and when we don't get things back right away, it starts to make you thinking, wait, what is it that they're trying to hide? now, i have great faith in our law enforcement people. i want to

make sure people understand that the local law enforcement people were on the ground, that they were willing and able and just ready to do anything that good. i think that when we look at this and we go past it, it's still at the end of the day. >> how did we prepare for that day? >> how did we understand what it was going to look like from safety and security? and if there was a problem, what was the exit strategy? because all of those things come into play right now and that's where i think when we're done with what we're gonna do, we are going to have a very clear picture for the american people. what happened, whose responsibility that lies on and at the end of that so what takes place now, what are what are the results of that and what happens to those who did not carry out their job that day the right way. i think the american people are owed that they deserve that, and we have the responsibility to get those answers for them. >> it was a horribly frightening day. we know that the secret service has taken some responsibility for sure for what happened. and some of

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progress has been made on a gaza ceasefire deal. >> the final details though still needing to be worked out, i want to get right to cnn's jim sciutto. so jim, what is the latest? it is that you're hearing on this front omar, i spoke to a u.s. >> official familiar with the negotiations, and i'm told that they did make progress yesterday in these talks to the point that they're in the discussion of final details, final paragraphs of an agreement, right down to nuts bolts issues such as the names of palestinian hostages that would be released or prisoners rather that would be released in exchange for israeli hostages held by hamas. now that does not certainly does not guarantee that they reach a final agreement, but they did make progress and particularly, i'm told that one of the most intractable sticking points could end up being surmountable. and that's the question of a continued israeli military presence in gaza. the debate, the discussion at this point it seems to be focused on

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might force israel into bigger concessions. now that hezbollah, for now has carried out its attack, that that might remove some leverage. again, all these comes with caveats. but this u.s. official with knowledge of the talk says that they did make some progress on sunday. >> all of these negotiations she is in negotiations intricate, but as you mentioned, even if someone believes that some of these sticking points are potentially surmountable, that's progress in its own right. jim sciutto really appreciate there according sara. >> all right. brigadier general steve anderson is joining me now to discuss more on this and while the middle east conflict continues, there was a massive russian assault on ukraine overnight just moments ago, the references defense ministry announced it hit all its targets more than 100 missiles and up to 100 drones hit multiple cities across the country, leaving at least four people dead. president zelenskyy is calling it one of the largest attacks that ukraine has faced yet all

right. to you, brigadier general how long can you cream continue to fend off russia when you see an attack like this one? >> well, thank you, sara that's a very good question this is a war of attrition neither side is truly capable of conducting decisive military actions against the other so what you're going to see is continued actions like this you know, attacks against the people, attacks against hospitals and schools and apartment buildings. >> i mean, that's right out of vladimir putin's playbook because that's really all that he can do. his military is just not good enough to really penetrate ukraine. they've been under donbass now for two-and-a-half years again, a war of attrition. is simply targeting energy. he's trying to make things painful for the people. >> tried to put political pressure on zelenskyy and i

just don't think that that's going to work because in ukrainian people are incredibly strong ukrainian people having been there a couple of different times, it just makes their resolve even stronger when they see russia do something like this. but the question is, do they have the weapons? do they have the ammunition and the and the number of soldiers that they need to try and continue this until which time there hopefully able in zelenskyy's words to end this war. i do want to go now to the middle east. we heard from jim sciutto, his reporting is that hamas seems to be more amenable to compromise when it comes to what is happening in gaza, the israel-gaza war than they are putting out publicly. what do you make of that well this is really good news, is a great report from jim. >> i mean, of course we did down this road before we've been talking about this for months, but the fact that they're really getting into nuts and bolts of the idf

withdrawal. and how would you define withdrawal from the populated areas? i mean, that's a really, really good sign. the other's a good sign on this is that there that these talks are happening at all. remember what happened yesterday? sara, we had a preemptive strike by israel. we had 340 rockets fired by hezbollah despite all that they were able to continue with negotiations. so hopefully they're going to continue to make progress. and then we're going to see some real movement. i really hope that the israelis a-band a little bit on the issue of total withdrawal of the idf because they really need to get the hostages out of there. and we really need to start setting conditions for the development of a two state solution is something that we really haven't done yet. >> yeah, we're not hearing that on netanyahu's agenda for a two-state solution. but certainly the horror for the palestinian civilians. there has been unimaginable and the horror for the families of the hostages and the hostages themselves as well. it has been

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everything was underwater. so we spent the night in the school and slept on the floor and our wet clothes and we left the next day, friday around 7:00 by helicopter and did you get a sense when especially when you are waiting to be finally taken out, did you get a sense from some of the other hikers? >> cnn visitors that were there of their experiences. i mean, were they panicked? they feel okay once they were rescued, going to bring us into the scene that time we got to hear a lot of stories about people that didn't quite react fast enough and water started washing their tents away while they were inside of them. >> some of them had grab onto trees and help each other to get to safety there was a lot of people who've spent the night in caves and in the you know, just in the brush trying to keep safe until the water

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boeing starliner spacecraft that got those two nasa astronauts, butch wilmore and sunny williams up to the international space station was safe enough to get them home, especially when they had a viable backup option in the pipeline and that backup option is boeing's big competitor, spacex. and so now the starliner spacecraft that got butch and sunny to space, its first crewed test flight is going to be going back to earth without a crew that's going to happen sometime in early september. and then butch and sunny could it be staying up at the international space station until february of 2025 before hitching a ride back to earth on a spacex crew dragon. but sara, when you talk to nasa leaders, they say, look, we are acutely aware that nasa has made mistakes in the past look at what happened with the challenger accident, look at what happened with the columbia tragedy. those were times when nasa engineers didn't feel comfortable or confident enough to raise their hand and speak

up and have management really listened to them in a meaningful way. nasa administrator bill nelson saying today they e not willing to make that mistake again, that they've learned lessons from the past, and decision over the weekend. sara. yeah. i mean, nody wants to see or go throu that again with what happened with columbia and with challenger. i do want to ask you about something else that could protect should we be historic for spacex they are sending civilians are trying to tell me where they're sending the civilians and why this is such a big deal sara. >> this is one of the most exciting and potentially risky missions that i've seen in quite some time, what you're going to see is a entirely private crew and this is funded by a private citizen, jared isaac man who's flown on a spacex vehicle before. and the inspiration for mission he is now funding a test and development program with spacex. this mission called polaris dawn. and what they're going to be doing is the world's first commercial

spacewalk. sara, up until this point, only nasa astronauts are government astronauts have ever actually gone outside of a vehicle. this is the first time that just private citizens are going and to be doing this and what you're going to see is the entire dragon capsule opening up. all four people inside exposed to the vacuum of space, never been done before and if all goes according to plan, they're going to be launching late tonight, very early tomorrow morning. excuse me, sir. >> i want to go. >> yes. and can you go me on i don't mind. i'll try it. thank you so much. that's so cool. appreciate your time this morning, kristen. thank you so much for joining us. this is cnn new central with sara sider know from our jimenez the newsroom of that the polls for have i got news for you are pretty yeah. what are the kinds we could run out the news? before then would never happen if i got news for you, you the mere saturday, 14th at nine on

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