place, including azerbaijan with a 24-year-old who lives in dubai. what do you know about her onstage? >> again, just just like about door for don't know much about her. so i think her name just a beard in the russian news headlines only in the connection with the arrest. so she's young she has account on to each its platform where people stream how they playing video games among other things. and she's rather popular there. she invest in cryptocurrency and to use cryptocurrency and shaye advocates for cryptocurrency, but this is basically aid. so also some russian jordan is seven propaganda journalist tried to reach out to her family and they said that she left russia just two years ago and they maintain no connection with her. so she's the russia and russian national, but that's about it it's unbelievable how little we know about something that they could have such amazingly important strategic implications for russia and the world. >> thanks so

tonight on 360 his campaign calls it trump on steroids and says it's all hands on deck because the former president kicks off a new blitz through battleground states starting today in michigan so tonight, my conversation with former trump national security adviser, hr mcmaster about his new book, the complex portrait he paints of his old boss and whether he would ever worked in the trump white house. >> again. plus special counsel, jack smith points a finger at the judge has dismissed the classified documents case as he asked a higher court to revive it good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight with what might be described as the first day of the rest of donald trump's campaign and follows a week largely dominated by the democratic convention and several weeks of buzz surrounding his new opponents. now, we're told to expect him to hold multiple events a week and visit two states a day today began in arlington national cemetery where he honored the 13 american troops killed in a

suicide bombing three years ago during the chaotic pull-out from afghanistan. speaking later in a social media posting and then a detroit he incorporated today's anniversary into his campaign. >> it's vice president kamala bragg that she was the last person in the room. she was the tough ones. she was the last person in the robe during that disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan decision caused by kamala harris, joe biden, the milesian and afghanistan set off the collapse of american credibility and respect all around the world the former president also said he thinks the country is closer now to world war iii than ever. he coffee establishment of a space national guard to complement the space force. he launched his president and repeated past exaggerations about the military being in his words, out of ammunition. he also secured the endorsement is expected to former hawaii congresswoman tulsi gabbard, who is helping him pair for his first debate with vice president harris. if in fact

that comes to pass because the two sides seem to be debating the rules of it at the moment as we're seeing thomas is traveling with trump campaign. she georgia excuse me, kristen holmes. she joins us now from detroit with new reporting on the debate and more person i'm sorry, it's been a long couple of weeks there's been a lot of back i can forth regarding the mics for the september debate. where does this now stand the two sides appear to be at an impasse. >> so here's what we know when the original debate was between president joe biden and donald trump, they agreed to the same rules because they agreed to with the cnn debate, which was that the mics would be muted when the other candidate was speaking, donald trump's team thought that that debate went well that first debate with cnn and they want to mimic those results. kamala harris is team is saying, well, new candidate and new debate rolls. we don't want those mics muted. >> i do want to stress here that a lot of this is posturing as well as them trying to position their candidate on both sides in the best light. >> now, donald trump's seem to a little bit step on the

argument that his campaign was trying to make about keeping those rules same. take a listen to what he said when he was in virginia earlier today i don't know. >> doesn't matter to me. i'd rather have it probably on but the agreement was that it would be the same does. it was last time one thing to be clear here about kamala harris, donald trump three weeks ago, when kamala harris was moved to the top of the ticket and donald trumps seem to back away from the debate overall kamala harris was saying, wait, you can't do that. >> you already agreed to this debate in these terms, doesn't matter who the candidate is and donald trump's team was saying no, everything has changed. now the two of them have swap roles. kamala harris is saying everything has changed. there are new rules and donald trump's team is saying, we want it to be the same to what we agreed to with president joe biden. again, lot of this is posturing. we will obviously see how this plays out. the big question is, what this means for september 10. and will they both actually be on the stage? >> he's also obviously been

bashing abc news, which is the the side for the debate, will see what are you hearing from the trump team regarding the former president's campaign schedule for the weeks ahead so i want to be very clear about one thing. >> yes. donald trump's team is saying that they are going to ramp up their campaign. that is going to be donald trump on steroids, that it's going to be multiple stops in a day. but we have to include the capital we ought that we have heard this before at multiple times during this campaign that he was going to ramp it up, that he was going to change his posture. and yet we haven't really seen that now this week has been a little bit different. he still does have to down days tuesday and wednesday. he's going to be in florida, but he is visiting many battleground states. horse he was in michigan today is going to be back in michigan next week. it's also going to be holding this town hall in wisconsin. they actually just sent out a notification saying tulsi gabbard was going to be the moderator. i think that event is one to watch. and here's why we know the donald trump has had a hard time getting its voting now, the kamala harris at the top of the ticket, so they are trying

different kinds of events. saw last week, it was a series of what they called messaging events which meant smaller crowds, smaller venues. one topic, donald trump often doesn't stay on that one topic, but it was shorter speeches, not this kind of all over the place, ranting type of rally speech. now they're trying this town hall. it is not being mediated overall by a news network the way they normally are cnn, fox news is doing another one with him and other day is just being done by tulsi gabbard. we'll see if that is a way for him to get his messaging to voters. and then there'll be in pennsylvania on friday, we'll see what happens the week after that. i always have to caveat it, anderson, because again, we've heard this before that he's going to ramp it up and then it kind of goes back to the slower pace. we'll see what happens in the coming weeks. >> or kristen holmes, thanks so much joining us is ashley etienne, former communications director for the vice president also trump 2016 about deputy communications director bryan lanza and cnn political commentator alyssa so far, griffin. alyssa, the harris campaign, obviously things keeping the mics are hot at the debate would be to their

benefit. do you agree yeah and it. >> shows how much the joe biden calculations are different from kamala harris's? kamala harris is a confident debater. she's a former prosecutor and i think they're calculation is they want to see donald trump get a little unhinged. they want the american public to hear if there's crosstalk, if they're name-calling, if there's some kind of, you know, goading her into something, will she has the floor this is a change from the rules that were agreed to, but i also think that donald trump's message on truth social about this is kind of laying a pretext to back out of the debate if he wants to, he's been going after the moderators. he's been going after the rules because he knows this is a very different candidate than he's ever had to debate before. she's the younger candidate. she's got the momentum we expected to be against. they can easily resolve this. the easy thing would be either keep the rules as they are and have a press pool in so that the american public knows what set off air i don't see any reason the harris campaign backs out, but i think donald trump's keeping that door open. >> brian, do you think he might

back out? >> no. they're doing debates. i'm not worried about that. i think it's important to remember that donald trump debated hillary clinton in 2016 and everybody felt she had momentum and they felt she was a dimensional candidate and he gets the viewers, at least the voters ultimately thought he won those debates. so i think he's looking forward to it i think from hayes, the standpoint is like listen, a deal is a deal was a deal you made the deal you wanted to see an end rules were doing the cnn rules on on abc. fine. the harris debates said fine if that's the final state, now they're coming back, wanted to change the rules and trump being like a businessman and his campaign been like a business is looking for an opportunity to try to leverage a second debate. how important is it that you want these mics muted if you want the really muted or if you want them unmuted well, let's get a second debate on nbc. i think this is all just a strategy to try to get more debates and that's a good thing. >> ashley a. do you think the trump campaign actually wants more debates and why do you think the harris campaign wants to change the rules around the microphone said their mics will be on. >> absolutely not. he doesn't he doesn't want it would crumble here is he doesn't want more than one debate with her. that's why to alyssa's point, he trying to you get out

of this one. he definitely doesn't want a second. here's the thing. the one thing, you know, his ego could not take is to be beaten by a woman. and what i do know about kamala harris is a couple of things. one, she suffers absolutely no fools to. she's not making the same mistakes that democrats have historically made. she's not going to pull any punches about but his record and she's going to lean into her own. and the third thing is this split-screen will really say the entire story. we'll tell the entire story. you'll have one guy who look old, angry, and small up against the woman who looks like the very promise of america. so i don't think donald trump really wants it. will kamala harris, that's why he keeps trying in a bag out of this thing and make it making excuse after excuse after excuse. and based on what i know about her, i wouldn't want to debate her either. >> alyssa, the harris campaign put out this video today in response to the foreign president. apparently waffling on, on the debate front play this but why not debate her moulay because they already

know everything trump see around not doing the debate. >> that's something i mean, right now i say, why should i do a debate of leading in the polls and everybody knows who, everybody knows me and yes, so they put a chicken sound over this. i bring this up just because it's notable how quicker the harris campaign is to put out videos like this. and i mean not that i don't think the biden campaign probably would have put out a thought to put out a video like this. but how quickly they put out something like this. i don't know it's effective or not, but videos, memes, this is a campaign that seems for more nimble, even though a lot of the same people are involved with it yeah. >> and donald trump's never run against a campaign like this. in fact, his team was always the one that was a lot quicker on social media. they would kind of play into the memories and has fast responses and he's kinda met his match in this now to be fair to trump in these debates, listen in 2016, he went against a very formidable foe with hillary clinton, and he performed well

in those debates. and obviously one, but this is different. keep in mind this election. he's running against an effective communicator as a former president post-january six, who is now a felon. there's, there are things he's going to have to answer for in this debate. that are so fundamentally different than 2016 where he had no record and he could just give a vision and an idea of what he wanted. and i think he's afraid of that. we never really saw that moment in the biden trump debate where he was called out on his history of sexual abuse or the fact that he had these felony convictions. and i think that's something that he's really dreading. in having to face brian. i want to play some of what the former president said today when asked if he was preparing for a debate with harris i'm not spending a lot of time on it. >> i think my whole life i prefer grant debate. you can go in and you can have all sorts of sessions. i watched it probably go in as they work so hard, for weeks and still locked himself into a lock and then he developed lockjaw. he couldn't win you have to be

real there you can't cram knowledge into your head for 30 years of knowledge and one week. so, you know, there's a little debate prep, but i've always done it more or less the same way and you have to know your subject. and i think i know my subject. i think i know it better than anybody it's i mean, it is interesting his approach to debates. >> i mean, there have been some who've said, well, look, i, you know, he prepares more than he says and that may be the case. but he definitely i mean, if you look at his debates over the years he says you have to be yourself and he am whether you like it or not he is that in these debates, he shows himself, he shows who he is again, whether that's a good thing or not. >> yeah. listen with respect to the bates, i mean, you have to remember donald trump is very comfortable with the skin he's very comfortable taking risks because he's been in the camera for a heck of a long time. so let's as a very safe space for him. i mean, he is an effective communicator, leases always felt the has been and he's his campaign's best communicator so it's, it's,

it's he he overperforms in debates from we traditional republican operative standpoint. i'll always, always nervous when he does these debates. i always felt that he didn't do as well as he should have done. and then you sort of look at the polling a couple of days later after it stabilizes the turnout, he did. okay it's just it's he's just different at debates. i mean, he decimated hillary he didn't do so well against biden. hillary is exponentially stronger, more debater than kamala harris. that to hear the kamala harris is an excellent communicator. i think that's a joke at this point. she's literally a voting every possible press opportunity in existence. so she doesn't have to communicate her message to the people's. so i mean, i think we're ready for the bates. we want more what for someone who is a joke. i mean, it's you're certainly seems to have the trump campaign a freaked out and trying sweat it out or sweating it out right now. but again, i hear your point about not doing doing interviews. she has now done sit down formal sit-down interview, and obviously, i think she said that they will do that by the end of this month we'll see about that nothing is scheduled by the way, that's in a couple of days. >> yeah. >> well, we shall see everyone

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about it on the campaign trail in michigan, speaking to a meeting of the national guard association, detroit, he promised to fire every senior official responsible. he did not. whoever invoked president truman firing general mcarthur or president lincoln relieving general mcclellan said he invoked himself and his old reality show the. >> voters are going to fire kamala and joe on november 5. >> we hope and when i take off his will ask where the resignations of every single aphasia we'll. get the resignations of every single senior official who touched the afghanistan calamity to be on my desk at noon on inauguration day, you know, you have to fire people, the app to fire people and they do a bad job. we never fire anybody he had a firearm like on the apprentice, you have fired yet, did a lousy job

joining us now is retired army lieutenant general hr mcmaster, who served as the former president's national security adviser from 2017 through 2018. >> his new book on his time in the white house is at war with ourselves. my tour of duty in the trump white house gentleman minister, thanks for being with us in the midst of the book. and i'm really enjoying it you right he says you got to fire everybody who, who touched this policy as you write in the book, he touched this policy. >> he had a lot of hands on it. you write in the book, trump establish the first sound long-term low-cost strategy for afghanistan and south asia then, abandoned that strategy and replicated the obama policy of negotiating withdrawal timeline with a terrorist organization, setting the stage for the biden administration's humility, humiliating retreat from kabul in august 2021, you were out of the white house at the time that this was done, you write that you quote, watched with incredulous incredulity revulsion as he directed an envoy to negotiate withdrawal with the taliban. you would not have advised him

to do that absolutely. >> and i advise him to do quite the opposite of that in the run-up to what was his decision in august of 2017. and i tell that story in detail in the book about how it really trump made the tough decision and made. i think what was the best available? we'll decision and put into place in 2017, the first sustainable reason approach to afghanistan the war. but by that point, had not been a sixteen-year war. it had been a one-year war, floods 16 years, 16 times over. but you know, anderson, he couldn't stick with the decision. he didn't stick with the decision. and i think people were in his ear and manipulated him into with these mantras. end the endless wars and afghanistan is a graveyard of empires and so forth. and so when he is critical of the biden administration's withdrawal which i guess the biden ministration could have not gone along with the deal that was made aid biden did push back the trump had said a guarantee withdrawal date may 1st.

>> biden pushed it back to august. trump had cut troop levels down drastically, even though the taliban was still attacking the taliban had allowed terrorist organizations. again, to have a home in their government, in their country but trump had his hand on. i mean, does trump bear part of the responsibility for what happened? >> oh, yes. i mean, the whole premise of talking to the taliban before you leave afghanistan why the heck we're even doing that? >> he was going to invite them to camp david, right? >> even though obama administration, when they made the mistake of pulling all of our troops out of of iraq in 2010, which really set conditions for the rise of i.s.i.s. and so forth by 2014, the obama attrition didn't negotiate with al-qaeda in iraq on the way out. and so if we were going to leave what it just leave what happened in these series of negotiations and concessions to the taliban is we got through the afghans under the bus on the way out. >> cut the african government out of those negotiations, right? >> so loosely, so that was mistake one, then forced them

to release 5,000 of some of the most heinous people on earth. and then began trying to force the african government to release 5,000 pelevin, correct and then also stopped the active targeting the tel ban, which president trump again to his credit in 2017, had restored because he was convinced to how the heck does this make any sense to give your enemy a timeline for your withdrawal and then say now i'm going to negotiate a for a favorable senate settlement. i mean, so we'd raises the question about the atmosphere within the white house, which you write a lot about, the portrait you paint of dysfunction in the white house from sort management perspective, is pretty alarming. >> you say trump pitted people against each other instead of building collaborative teams, you say it was administration at war with itself do you have any reason to believe that if there's another trump administration, that it would be any different because doesn't i mean that doesn't that tone get set by the commander-in-chief. >> as historian to anderson, i realized that that was not unprecedented, right.

>> so one of the things that gave me solace as always in that position was that thing about the first reagan administration how tumultuous that was. and so i knew that this was really nothing new. it happened it's an all administrations but in the trump administration, i think everything was magnified in the one of the things you she said that's it's gotten a lot of pickup. >> you told your wife after over a year in the job. i cannot understand putin's hold on. trump but in the book towards the end of the book you actually provide some insight may be on why the former president does seem to seek the praise and approval of strong menu, right? i came to see trump's embrace of dueterte, who has that point was the kind of strong man leading the philippines and his braiding of me as connected to his struggle well, for self-worth, if he was accepted by strong men like dueterte putin and xi he might convince others and especially himself that he was strong. that's really interesting. >> well, i think you've had some time to reflect on it and

i'm trying to explain really the strength in some of the aspects of the presence character, but also the vulnerabilities. and of course at times i was reluctant to write. so this i thought i don't want to give if he's reelected kind of a playbook of how you can maybe manipulate leader knows. >> i mean, every reporter who interviewed trump knows. i mean, i learned this early on back in the first round. he's the most susceptible to flattery of any public figure. i've ever interviewed. and i think every world leader knows this, right? i mean, you, you compliment trump in an interview you can then asked several questions which are aggressive, that he won't get as annoyed by because you've complimented the size of his crowd or whatever, right? >> yeah. so what i what i hope is the president will learn from his first experience, understand vladimir putin, for example, will never be his friend he has real friends among our allies who you ought to value higher. bio, those relationships ire and to recognize once again, as he did

and i tell the story in the book about how prison to trump came to the conclusion that we needed to punish russia to inflict costs on russia beyond the cost that they consider when they, when they act aggressively against us and our allies. and so in that first year, the trump administration, he puts more sanctions on russian entities and individuals then the previous eight years of the obama administration, he closes to console, is he expels scores of russia undeclared agents, although the same time was upset that you weren't with us, wasn't expelling as many people as russia was expelled, right? >> and as the europeans were expelling that meta maghreb because what he would often say is, i'd like the word reciprocal, right? he wants others to do at the same level anything that we're doing, you, you write that you said that you hope he has changed and learn. do you know a lot of 78-year-old like billionaires are alleged billionaires who have really have a big

evolutions at age 78 i'll probably not, but but i do but i did see him learn and adapt and evolve his understanding of situations, right? people would often say to you, does he listen, does he? yes, he does. but oftentimes when he does come to what i think is a really solid conclusion based on talking to a wide range of people getting a wide range of views oftentimes he can hang on to that decision and then your policy becomes unmoored. >> well, that that's the knock on him. and what has been well-documented is that he listens to the last person who's in the room. so we'll you can convince them of something and he'll back something you say, and then you say he talks to a wide range of a cast of characters jurors who have access to him. certainly these days in mar-a-lago or elsewhere and he comes around to a different understanding that's got to be somebody who's national security adviser. that's got to be i don't know if terrifying is the right word or frustrating at the very least. >> well, the key for me was i saw myself and this is one of the titles, one of the chapters as a guardian of his

independence of judgment, right? i wasn't there to manipulate him into decisions or to feed him the information i think might lead him to a particular course of action. i was there to give him best analysis and multiple options. and that's one of the lessons i had learned from studying vietnam. >> i want to play some of what other high-ranking military officials have said about the foreign president after working with him we don't take an oath to a king or queen a tyrant, or a dictator we don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator we don't take an oath to an individual. >> we take an oath to the constitution. >> i think he's unfit for office. look, it's he, he puts himself before country his actions are all about him and not about not about the country. >> i think he's dangerous enough. he shouldn't get a second term bolton cdu as a national security, one of the many, one of them. but at general kelly, i mean, his painted a really brutal i mean, very damaging descriptions of things that he says the

president then president has said to him about wounded troops, troops who have service members who have laid down their life for this country, calling them losers and suckers. do you believe general kelly that trump said those things? >> well, i wasn't there, anderson, i was gone by that time. it sounded out of character to me. i never heard the prison say anything like that, that bad. >> well, you did hear my criticized john mccain, who was very show it was dear friend of mine. >> the integrated people who absolutely hate the president, is quite often very offensive, brash, says things that are outlandish i relate a lot of those in the book. but he's extremely disruptive person. i saw it as my job not to try to constrain him, but to help him disrupt what needed to be disrupted, would you trump white house again no, i think anderson i will work in any ministration where i feel like i can make a difference, but i'm kinda used up with donald trump. would you work in a harris administration? >> well, i think i don't know

if i would be affected they're either based on probably by different points of view and what is a sensible policy toward the middle east or really fill in the blank, but but anywhere i could make such approach to serve, what are the themes in at war with ourselves as heck, yeah, we are at war with ourselves. that's not only bad for our psyche, it's bad for governance and spent for our country. >> and i hope that young people, if they read this book, will feel a call to serve because the tone in the book is not one of you is that was such a hard i mean, it was a privilege to serve in the complex portrayal and there's a lot of stuff you liked about what went on there, menstruation and you're also very honest about the things that you saw there were disappointing. it master. >> i really appreciate your time. thanks, anderson. great to be with you. >> the book again. at war with ourselves. my tour duty in the trump white house is going to be available tomorrow. it's a great read up. next, vice president harris said she'd do an interview by the end of the month, still nothing confirmed as of yet. i'll get the panel's take on that strategy. it's getting a lot of criticism by the former president and a lot of members of the media as well. we'll be right back next monday, a

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than i have tremendous respect for lieutenant general mcmaster. >> we barely overlapped in the white house, but there was a level of perhaps it was different much earlier on where i wish i had the optimism he does have what a second trump term would be like. he mentioned, he takes a wide array of advice he's from national security advisors around him that often wasn't my experience and i worry about his second term. it also matters who is in the administration, who staffing the west wing, who staffing the department of defense listen, there are certainly policies that i agree with donald trump on. i think hr mcmaster would agree how he handled or ron that's something i can agree with. but the committee men's to not supporting ukraine to letting russia invade nato. there's a reason that myself mark milley, mark esper, john bolton, have all warned that he is a danger and that his approach to national security completely understand undermines america's standing in the world. >> brian, what do you make a mcmaster saying trump wants yes, men around them and he talks about how susceptible he is flattery and i don't know if

idealizes strong men or sort of kind of want strong men to like him because of his self-esteem listen, i'm not a shrink. >> i don't think mcmaster's is even though he's tried to play one in his book and i always common it's funny how these people sell a book and then they tried to give a positive i'm an nda negative comment in this trump's space you listen, by the way, throughout his book, is both positive, negative. >> he's probably evolved the people. he's not, this is not like molotov cocktails at the trump white house. just, you know, yeah. yeah he he punches any any covers. >> he does it really well but i would say this, you are trump trump very much likes having i wouldn't say yes, people around him, are people who are affirming his position he wants to sort of offer some criticism, say ultimately where he lands. >> i know what a yes-man know allison my my experience with trump is i've gotten in the room and you during the campaign, certainly not what he's been in office. >> i'm not going to apply that. but when i've got in the room, i said, sir, you know, here's the mistake ice is taking place. here the consequences. this is why i would recommend not going down this route and it was very,

very accepting of changing positions. i think we can count many of times in his administration where he's changed positions. and that goes to the point of mcmaster's is whether we like it or not, he's open-minded, almost two open-minded, some my good friend, anthony scaramucci would call it transactional but yeah. it is easy to move the president's position from time to time. it's new, can't move his position related to china because he very much feels that the trade, the trading of parameters are on, even there. >> yeah, i'll tiktok anyway ashley, i want to play something that vice president harris said a couple of weeks ago and get your thoughts that's been a lot of questions about when you're going to sit down with for your first interview since being the nominee i talked to my team. i want us to get an interview scheduled before the end of the month it's now the last week of august, not scheduled yet as far as as far as we know, do you think it's going to happen and do you think she needs to? >> yeah. i mean, i definitely think it's going to happen, but i really honestly believe that this is much ado about nothing. i don't think the

average american really cares about whether or not she sits down with with an anchor to do a big interview. this is just sort of beltway chatter and it's more than anything else is a deflection. i mean, here's the here's what really matters. 75 days out from an election. it's the money, the infrastructure in the message. and that's where donald trump is losing on all three. so this is a desperate for him to turn a page. she's she's raised three times the amount of money that he has you know, he the republican party state parties are broke. they can't get volunteers. she's in a matter of weeks, got 200,000 volunteers on the books in addition to that, she's winning on each one of the message fronts, crime is down, inflation is down border crossing is down. so really that's what he's trying to do is deflect from that. what really matters at this point of the election and he's losing on all of those fronts. >> alyssa, let me ask you this. this just kind of big picture

question has trump changed the game for president? presidential races forever? i mean, because it seems to me the harris campaign probably wisely from a political sense, is taking a lot of like the tricks from the trump campaign and using it to their advantage. i mean, not immediately doing a sit-down interview trump's does plenty of sit down interviews, but by and large, you know, he buried charles his way through them and lies repeatedly through them. and they're there. they end up being not really much of anything other than a performative piece for him. a lot of the kind of things that trump has done, it seems like the harris campaign they're not repeating exactly, but they've learned from and i'm and i wonder if it's, you know, she's getting some criticism for not doing a sit-down, but i understand the strategy behind it. >> yeah. listen, he's completely rewritten. the rules are running a campaign. i think it's a direct result of trump that you had someone like bob

menendez who is under criminal indictment and refused to resign for a period of time because we just don't operate the way that we used to. but more specifically to harris. i think that there is so much built up around the idea of doing a mainstream network sit down interview, which trump does very rarely calling into fox news is very different than that hosting a press conference at one of his country clubs where he decides what reporters he's going to call on is very different than standing at the white house podium and taking any open question from anyone. what i do think she's making a mistake of his allowing the buildup to be there. so there'll be such scrutiny over an interview. she's gotta do it ahead of the debate. she should be gangling on the campaign trail, which it sounds like she is a bit, but she should be talking to her press she should we talking a national press daily. >> ashley etienne, bryan lanza, as griffin. thank you so much appreciate it. just ahead. a florida judge appointed by trump toss the classified documents case out last month. but today, the justice department urged a federal appeals court to bring it back details on that next the pros for have i got news for you?

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meanwhile, at a vrbo when, other vacation rentals aren't what they're cracked up to be dry one where you know what you get i'm dr. sanjay gupta in atlanta and this cnn new developments night in trump's classified documents case that was dismissed last month in the first formal filings since the case was toss, special counsel jack smith urged a federal appeals court to bring it back and argued the judge cannon's decision to throw it out based on the argument that the prosecutors lack constitutional authority was quote, novel and laugh thank merit. with me now cnn, justice correspondent jessica schneider so just walk us through what the special counsel jack smith is now arguing in this new court filing. >> yeah. pretty simply anderson, he's saying judge cannon got the decision wrong last month when she dismissed this classified documents case against donald trump and his co-defendants. and what jack smith's is now urging the 11th circuit court of appeals to do is he wants them to overturn

her decision, which would then allow the criminal case to move forward and specifically, when he's pointing to is really years of court decisions including the 1974 case from the supreme court usv nixon, where the supreme court did say that attorneys general do have the power to appoint a special counsel. that is exactly the opposite of what judge cannon ruled in mid-july at the time she said smith's appointment was unconstitutional. that is office was unlawfully funded. but doj is now arguing they're saying, look that decision was clearly wrong based on past precedent, but they're also warning that if this decision is allowed to stand, it would effectively barr the attorney general from really appointing any deputy positions are other positions at doj or even other heads of other agencies being able to appoint other officials smith's argument has a lot of precedent behind it and that we'll see how the 11th circuit handles this and what happens next. >> yeah. so the special counsel in the brief is asking for

in-person arguments in the case before then we'll likely hear from trump's team arguing that canada did the right thing. what's unclear is how quickly the 11th circuit might actually act or schedule anything. of course, we're just about what eight plus weeks away from the election. and then there's that if trump wins, he could ultimately get rid of this case. i will note the 11th circuit. it does have a conservative tilt however, they he previously overruled, judge cannon just about two years ago when she decided to name a special master to review documents in this case. so this will be a case to watch anderson. we'll see when the 11th circuit hears it, and then it could ultimately be appealed to the supreme court does kitchener. >> thanks very much more perspective now from cnn, senior legal analyst, elie honig does special counsel make a good case here? >> i think jack smith is going to win this anderson. i don't like to do predictions, but i just read the brief and i'm convinced he's going to win. and here's what the argument that donald trump made is congress has to pass a specific

law saying we hereby create the position of special counsel in order for there to be a special counsel but what jack smith with argues, i think quite persuasively in his brief is there are four different laws where congress says, well, the attorney general has very broad powers to delegate authority to enlist other prosecutors and fbi agents to do the work that he needs done. and i think that's a powerful argument. and by the way, this same argument has been made to various other district court judges an appeals including in the mueller case in the hunter biden case, and it has not succeeded. judge cannon is the only one who's now in this way. if if this is reverse, could smith try to get cannon removed? so he could have asked in the brief that he filed today to have judge cannon removed, but he did not. it's very rare for doj to do that. we really i still say we doj, but we only do that in the rarest of circumstances that said, sometimes courts of appeals will remove a district court judge on their own. it's extraordinarily rare. but if they reversed judge cannon

here, that'll be twice. jessica mentioned the other one that is a whole new playground there that is something that very rarely happens. so if they reverse her again, it's possible in my mind they remove her as well that what the appeals court would remove her, that jack smith wouldn't have to petition to have her exactly. >> a lot of times when this does happen, the appeals court will do it on its own without even any of the parties asked. >> that would be imagine not great for her career. oh, my gosh. it would be humiliating for her. it when it happens, it is a mark that stays with that, judge for a long time. the federal appeals courts are extremely reluctant to remove a district judge. they only do it where they feel like that judge cannot fairly continue on the case. >> and if the special counsel is allowed to proceed, i mean, to jessica's point this is not going to happen before the election. yeah. >> the timeline is blown up here. i mean, i don't think we're going to even get a ruling from the 11th circuit before november that said, i do. as i said in the beginning, i do think jack smith's going to win here. and then it's all going to depend on who wins the election. because if trump wins, the federal cases, including this one, they're out the door. if kamala harris wins

soon she would let it go forward and that i think underscores the stakes here in this election for donald trump. i mean, if he wins these two cases and probably all four of them go away. if he loses, he is going to trial in all likelihood on one or two or both of the federal cases in just in the trump's attorneys in georgia in the fani willis case had petitioned again to get her removed. what's going yeah, that brief just came in about an hour ago. >> i just read through it. i actually think they have a very good chance. donald trump's team of winning that case. and now we're in georgia and the state case and winning the case in terms of getting her removed or is warning the case, winning the case outright and getting it thrown out. and here's why a lot of the focus has been on this conflict of interests fani willis had this relationship with another attorney on the case and they intermingled their finances. i'm sure i've said to you, i never thought that was the issue. i think the issue is what trump's team hit on today, which is fani willis has made wildly inappropriate public out-of-court statements. and what trump's team focuses on in this brief is fani willis

at one point went in front of a church with national tv cameras and said, the reason these defendants made this motion is racism. you are polluting the jury pool when you do that and trump's team argues and i think they have a good chance of winning that. that's misconduct and that requires dismissal. the indictment because it undermines the rights of the accused. they have the right to be presumed innocent. if you're tainting the jury pool, it's a big problem. >> elie honig nic, thanks so much coming up tomorrow. morning's scheduled space to excellence not only may mark a major step or private space flight, but signal how nasa hopes to bring home two astronauts stranded right now aboard the international space station, we have details next the source with kaitlan collins. >> next wants to get back to eating the food she loves. so she's been thinking about getting dental implants, but the cost seems like it's out of her budget a clear choice. we specialize in permanent teeth replacement, offering a range of solutions to fit your budget. so you don't have to

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exclusively on max sometime early tomorrow morning. elon musk space x is scheduled to launch a new four person mission will be special for two reasons. one, the crew of the privately funded polaris dawn mission consist of astronauts who hope to conduct the first ever commercial spacewalk. they're also going to attempt to reach the highest ever orbit for crewed mission. the second reason is that tomorrow's launch now comes with the knowledge that over the weekend, nasa selected spacex to help bring home two astronauts who can't return from the international space station due to safety issues with their boeing starliner airspace grabbed cnn space and defense correspondent kristin fisher joins us now so nasa has announced the astronauts who've been stuck up at the international space station are not going to get back until february 2025. how are they going to get back safely? >> well, anderson, it's not on the spacecraft that got them in

this space. boeing starliner, the first crewed test flight for this mission, it ran into so many issues, helium leaks problems with the thrusters. and so anderson over the weekend after weeks of testing, nasa official said, hey, we've learned our lesson from the challenger accident, from the columbia accident ben we're going to put the astronaut safety first. and so rather than take any risks, they decided to keep those astronauts up at the space station until february 2025. and hitch a ride back on a spacex crew dragon. so that means what was supposed to be an eight-day mission is going to turn into about eight months up there for them. >> is it true that some of the astronauts personal luggage, including their toiletries, didn't make it into space because i how could that have happened? >> i know. >> yeah. so it turned out to be not the right thing to take off. the spacecraft they had too much weight to much mass on the spacecraft when it launched, and they needed to get a critical piece up to the international space station the

you're in recycling pump wasn't working and so literally bags of astronaut you're in were piling up up at the international space station. and so in order to get this replacement pump up there, they put that inside the starliner spacecraft and took out two of the astronaut suitcases. to inside all of your toiletries i kind of want them if i were up there for well, i mean, these much less eight months i get it. >> not wanting the bags of you're in i going to get maybe give them a break on that. although i do think given that i travel a lot, i do think you should just carry your toiletries in your carry-on bag in case they lose your luggage, little pro travel trends tip so spacex has separate, unrelated mission scheduled to launch. what do we know about that flight was actually just moments ago, delayed about 24 hours due to some issue with fueling on the ground that just took place. but when it does launch, anderson, this is going to be one of the most daring human spaceflight missions in modern history. the world world's first commercial spacewalk. and what's really

cool here is spacex designed new spacesuits just for this mission, nasa has been trying to develop new spacesuits like this for about 40 years, spacex did it in about two-and-a-half years. and i'll let the missions commander, jared isaac man explain what they eventually hope that these spacesuits will be used for i think we're all really confident having observed all this for the last couple of years that some iteration of it, fifth or sixth is going to be worn by somebody walking on mars someday. >> and that just makes it even more of a privilege to be part of it. >> and so in addition to the spacewalk anderson, one of the other things that this mission is going to be doing is these astronauts are going to be flying into the radiation belt. this is the first time that any humans have done this since the apollo astronauts back in the 19th. so it's a really risky mission. but all these astronaut say, they've been training for two years they think they're ready. >> you mentioned kristin fisher. anks very much. appreciate it. the news continues. the source starts. >> now, say tomorrow