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sounding the alarm, is actually going to be joining us live talking about what he feels needs to be done. we're following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here. e cnn news central first stop, georgia vice president kamala harris returning to the campaign trail and jump starting a two day bus tour in the critical battleground state harris and governor tim walz are about to come face-to-face with voters and reliably republican counties and about 24 hours from now face-to-face with cnn's dana bash for the tickets first major interview, while harris is focused on 2024, former president trump is facing new legal fallout over his alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election. >> we're following both campaigns today. we have cnn's priscilla alvarez live for us from savannah, georgia. priscilla, tell us how the harris campaign seeing her chances, especially there in south georgia well, that's

exactly right. >> brianna, where they are going today tells us a lot about how the campaign is strategizing in this critical battleground state and how they plan to close margins with republicans. now, this is a strategy from the senator raphael warnock, 2022 runoff, who by the way, the person leading that campaign was quentin fulks, who is now the deputy campaign manager of the harris campaign when he tells me is what they found to be a successful was doing the best that they could in metro atlanta and then peeling off voters from republicans in south georgia, essentially losing by less in those counties, which if they look at a presidential election year when they already anticipate higher turnout and they see the harris-walz ticket as appealing to a broader base of voters, then they feel like they could pull off what warnock did in 2022. so that is why they are

hitting these counties on this bus door. now what democratic strategists also tell me is that there is a tim waltz factor. of course, he has a role upbringing, he has his football and military routes so the other question here is how he resonates with voters in these areas and how he can help boost the ticket. now of course, coinciding with this swing is also a lot of money being poured into ads in the savannah area media market with that, we have a new ad today that's the thing we've been talking about quite a bit over the course of the week, the economy earlier this week, now, project 2025, that's that project campaign has tried to tie directly to former president donald trump as some of his former administration officials have worked on it take a listen it's called project 2025 a 922 page blueprint to make donald trump the most powerful president ever overhauling the department of justice giving trump the unchecked power to seek vengeance eliminating the

department of education and defunding k through 12 schools now you can imagine that that's going to be coming up over the course of the bus. the bus tour today, but also those kitchen table issues especially in these rural counties and what the ultimate goal here is, brianna, of course, the campaign trying to do what president biden did in 2020? he only won the state by less than 12,000 votes so it is critical for them to peel off as many voters as they can from republicans. and that is exactly the strategy they're trying to employ in south georgia. >> all right. priscilla alvarez live for us from savannah. thank you for that. and be sure to watch tomorrow is cnn exclusive interview, kamala harris tim walz sitting down with our dana bash for the first time since launching their ticket. that's tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. eastern. boris so former president donald trump is making some wild claims during an interview with tv therapists, dr. phil even name checking jesus christ while

pushing unproven election fraud, conspiracies. >> cnn national correspondent kristen holmes joins us now. so kristen what did trump say during this interview was a wide ranging interview and it was very much donald trump fashion at one point, he railed against mail-in voting saying it promoted fraud odd that it should be outlawed. just a reminder yesterday, the rnc put out something's saying that the we should encourage mail-in voting and talked about how consistently donald trump has supported mail-in voting, which obviously we know not to be the case on top of that, he said that biden and kamala harris were at fault or at least to a certain extent? for the assassination attempt. and as you said, he essentially said that if jesus christ we're counting the votes, he would win in california. take a lesson vote because i gave a speech i had so i added crowd so big. i said there's no way i could lose california, but automatically they marked it down. if you're republican is a loss that you lose by 5

million votes. i said 5 million votes. i guarantee if jesus came down and was the vote counter, i would win california. okay? >> so you went on to say that essentially it would have to be the most honest person in the world. and if they counted the votes, you would want. but obviously as we know california goes blue because of those major cities like san francisco, like los angeles, those are democratic cubs. they are widely populated by democrats right now, donald trump has spent time there. he's going to go back there. but usually when he goes, it's not for campaigning. it's for fundraising exactly. but this again was just donald trump talking like donald trump does. >> yeah. notable given what we saw yesterday about mail-in balloting from the republican party, bakley, he says he wants republicans to win so they could change it's those rules. >> and that's something that he has said edben convinced by his team that that's why that they are promoting it. we hear this a lot. it's the same thing that donald trump essentially says about abortion at some point he says that we have to win the election and then we can change the rules on mail-in

voting. his team and republicans as a whole believe is a detriment to the party to not support mail-in voting, to not support early voting because they believe there's a large swath pause of voters who can't get to the polls on election day while it is true that republicans in general are the ones who are going to show up and wait in line on election day. there are also republicans who can't do that and they think that it will take votes away from them. donald trump just hasn't really gotten that night message. >> kristen holmes, thanks so much for the reporting. brianna former president trump is facing a new superseding indictment. >> the special counsel, jack smith, rewriting the original federal election case against it's trump, as to take into account the supreme court ruling that gives trump some immunity for official acts that he took as president. that distinction between official acts as president versus private acts is central to the new language in this court filing we've cnn senior crime and justice reporter katelyn polantz joining us live on this

tell us what is different in this superseding indictment well, brianna, it's the same for criminal charges that donald trump has been facing for more than a year now, in federal court in washington related to the 2020 election but it is tightened. >> the language which and less evidence than what the justice department originally wanted to show to a jury. that's because the supreme court has said that they're going to have to not use anything that donald trump was doing while he was officially in the presidency either as evidenced or as the allegations that back-up the charges does in this case. and so the justice department, in bringing this new version of the indictment through the grand jury. they've cut out a lot of what donald trump was talking to and hearing from and doing in the west wing of the white house, talking to officials in his administration, telling them to do things refocused him as a kid candidate who was giving direction to private attorneys and hearing from people on his

campaign about this effort to bring ideas of fraud across the country in courts, et cetera. the way that the justice department phrases this brianna is that they write in this indictment where they see the line between presidential immunity and donald trump, just a guy. here's how they phrase it. the defendant had no official responsibilities related to the certification proceeding, but he did have a personal interests as a candidate and being named the winner of the election all of the conversations between the defendant and vice president described below focused on the defendant, meaning training power. so that's how the language in the indictment looks. now, that wasn't there before, and it sets up what's very likely going to be months of court fights over what can stay in this indictment. can this case even go to trial and can things like those discussions between donald trump and his vice president, mike pence, who was presiding over we're the senate in the certification of the election. can that say in the case or is that something that the courts

want to have protected for the presidency as well? brianna katelyn polantz. thank you so much for the update joining us now to discuss all these headlines, we have meghan hays, she was the director of message planning for the biden white house and republican strategist matt hours, he was a trump administration official and now runs a strategy firm, valcour. >> thank you both for being with us. matt, first to you on this superseding indictment trump calling it an act of desperation by democrats. we've seen how he's used his legal issues in the past to benefit him specifically with fundraising. how do you anticipate he's going to utilize this to his advantage? well, okay if past is prologue, it's going to supercharge his base. it's going to unite his base. he's going to raise a lot of money as a result of this. and it is going to have an impact on the election because of those reads he's in so i mean, if you ask anyone during the republican presidential primary, what was the moment you knew donald trump was going to become the republican nominee? he had a iron grip over republican party. it was after that first round indictments and the spring of last year so this is just going to continue to do it, doubles down on the message

he's been telling his supporters as well, which is that it doesn't matter whether it's biden or harris there. one of the same and they haven't entire government, they oversee and right now they're trying to keep me and therefore, voters like you away from it. and that's the message he's telling them. >> i wonder meghan because he had this new interview that i know you both watched it. he had with dr. phil and in it trump says mail in voting should not be allowed. it's actually something he'd want to rectify if he were reelected. and now you have the rnc chair, michael watley, really trying to course correct here he said, quote, as president trump has consistently said, voting by mail, voting early in voting on election they are all good options that is not what he said in the interview and just yesterday in pennsylvania, the rnc actually rolled out a new website, re voters can request mail-in ballots. they're banking on on people voting mail-in. oops. >> i mean, i wonder how long the chair of the rnc is still gonna be the chair after he just corrected his boss, but we'll see how that goes, but i do think he's just trying to create more discontent and more chaos to people when he, when he loses, he can just say, oh, i told you the mail-in ballots weren't a good idea or this is

fraud and this is isn't, you know, now jesus christ means account about, he's just trying to create a reason for why he'd think to lose. and it's just it's not it's falling flat and it's going to continue to fall flat. >> i will say this. you've seen donald trump in 2020 was very skeptical mail-in-ballots told voters not to use them and you saw the result of that. he has since changed his tune largely understand his comments here. but what they've said, it's been almost a nuanced type of messaging and clear from laura trump from the rnc and others, which is, you need to find any way to vote this year and then we can change the rules, but that's not and so well and i expect you will see him come out. >> that's my point to you mount though, is he really needs these mail-in votes. does he do you think? he understands what he might be doing here and if you look at some of the late primaries, are seeing some key states, florida and you saw similarly in pennsylvania, you've actually seen an uptick in republican requests for absentee ballots as a result of the fact that some of his messaging has changed. and so i don't think one comment on one interview changes that anyone who is still skeptical mail-in voting it's going to be skeptical is going to showp on electn day anyway, the key

thing is for himn th campaignhanics to be able to get those ballots in the hands pplo may no show uand vote on electi day fascing becae in this inrview and brianna inted thisut to mearlier, he says that the u.s. should use france as an example where they have this like only same-day voting system. don't think he knows thatn france they also vot by proxy. so i cld ask mat, for example, to go and vote for menevertless vote by proxy appreciate them. >> good to know it. only french elecs, that's right pivoting though meghan to vice president kamala harris and her vp nominee tim walz giving this interview to cnn tomorw. what address in this rvw? whatto impression do yothink they ople? leave the american >> well, i think that they are running off a lot of momentum at their backs right now. and i think that they need to start talking about policy and i think that's the one and that's missing and they need to start talking about issues. mostly the economy and what they're going to do for people. but i do think that because she hasn't done an interview and there's been so much churn about the stakes are incredibly high for them, so they need to hit the mark here

because any, any sort of mistake will be seen as a disaster. and so they really need to lay out policy and they really just need to hit the mark. and then they can move on. so the campaign for the next 70 days, it seems like republicans are getting ready already to hit harris no matter what happens in this interview, i'm trying to campaign never it's so strange. but what do you think that this interview can do that she can accomplish in this interview to try to silence some of the criticism, i think it's overstated sometimes and circles in dc about how well-known people think she is right now by the american public, they may have a vague awareness of her. they may have a vague feeling about her, but they don't have that type of deep can no action tour that traditionally you need to get elected president and she hasn't had the opportunity to just let me a candidate as a presidential candidate for 30 some odd days. so she hasn't been able to close that set i think she's to meghan's point. she's got to give them a reason to actually go and get voters to actually vote for other than vibes and feelings. i mean, vibes and feelings are not going and end the conflict

that's happening in the mideast or what's happening in ukraine. it's not going to drive down the cost of goods in the price of gas. and the american people know that, and i think it's actually been a little assaulting from the harris campaign to assume that voters are good at somehow suspended their concerns about what's happening on the world stage, what's happening at home in order to go vote for someone based upon a feeling, there voters are savvy smart campaigns, know how to respect voters. the losing campaigns under underestimate their ability to use their own judgment of these things. she has started to tell, given them a reason to vote for that beyond vote for me because he may may like me i am a feeling piece though. >> i think that she's giving people a feeling of hope and feeling of optimism for the future. so i think she needs to lay out some policies so they then thinks with those feelings, if it's like, okay, great. i feel good about you. i feel hopeful about two and here with what you're going to do. so i think that they go hand in hand. >> i also just one thing is because the harrison it's campaign has refused to engage with the press and candidly with voters outside scripted settings to this point, they've now raised the expectations so much for tomorrow night that any sort of misstep is going to be highlighted dramatically

more so than if they were doing what j.d. vance is doing right now, we're saying i'll talk to anyone. yeah. i'll go into any interview. i don't care if you're msnbc on here. but you're cnn. i'll carry fox news. i will sit down and i will talk to you. down trumps doing the same thing right now. harris, has raised the bar to a point that if past is prologue, she may not clear her team would argue that they have engaged with the press when she's boarding and deboarding planes loading and unloading vans, but she has not said down for an interview and i'm curious, megan, how you think she addresses a question that we don't know what we haven't been privy to the questions that dana was preparing to be clear, but we can imagine she's going to be asked about some of the policy positions that she seems to have shifted. how should you respond to those questions? >> i think she should tell people why she shifted. i think you are representing california and that those are your constituents. your policies may be different than when you're when you are representing the entire country, you have to evolve as your constituency-bas ed evolved and not what's happening but she just needs to say that she needs just be honest about it and say why they shifted or what her policies are that are different. and i just i think the american people understand that people change and evolve all of the time i guess there

in case kilohertz for change have on every position you've had in a really short period of time, that short period of time is when you're running for president again, i would say the other thing she has to do say whether she has changed her position. >> we know some campaign staff has leaked anonymously that she no longer supports a fracking ban because it likely hurt her with voters in pennsylvania or that she now believes it is maybe a crime to be in the country illegally because border security is ranked as one of the number one issues, or maybe she doesn't want strip away per quality private health insurance for middle-class americans. the way she advocated for just four years but she has acknowledged to likely tomorrow night whether she has changed her position on those and to meghan's point, why? and if it was why why is it now and not just seen as some sort of political opportunism a lot more questions to get to we'll leave it for next time at mauer is meghan hays. >> appreciate you both. thanks so much still plenty more news to come on. news central, a new behind the scenes, look at the after for math of january 6. cnn has obtained video of nancy pelosi's real-time reaction, blaming the former president

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act civilize. >> he said these people gave a damn and she later went on in that clip to say shame on us know, one of the other moments worth talking about in this video is that she's very mindful of the messaging, even as all this chaos is unfolding around her so we see her very clearly, tried to direct the messaging back at president trump on the morning of january 7, one day after the attack, she's sitting in her office talking to staff and they say do you want to call it this upcoming press conference for the resignation of police chief and she says, no, no, no, i will if asked, but i'm not going to come out and say it. >> the focus here. she said this must remain on president trump. >> what is what the timing now two-and-a-half years later? >> yeah, it's a good question. this was all from a documentary that aired in 2022 that was shot by her daughter, alexandra pelosi for hbo. one, i'm said that hbo, of course, is owned by time warner excuse me, warner media, which is our parent company as cnn and hbo had to turn over the unseen footage, unused footage from

this documentary to the house committee on administration. they are trying to go in investigate again and try to potentially just discredit the work that the january 6 committee and did so again, 50 hours nearly excuse me, 50 minutes here, 15 minutes of unseen but it really fascinating but it's three-and-a-half years, right? three, three-and-a-half years. >> since the documentary. >> that's right three-and-a-half-years-old. see thanks, boris. >> salma. thank you so much. it really is an interesting look. we appreciate it. coming up. the founder of a popular app appearing before a judge, after being arrested for a slew of alleged crimes involving his platform, we're going to have an update on his status and then happening right now, the fbi is giving an update on the investigation into the assassination attempt to former president trump. we're watching that briefing for new details. >> tomorrow. >> the most anticipated interview of this election kamala harris and tim walz sit down with dana bash for the

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what what he's being accused of is allowing telegram this social media platform to be used as a way of being used by, criminals by peta files, by political extremists, by neo-nazis and antisemites and things like that, and other criminals to congregate together and to operate freely. indeed telegram has sort of prided itself on the fact that it is relatively unmoderated compared to other social media platforms like facebook or x or some of the others? and that was a gamble, which pavel durov has turned into billions of dollars. it's made him immensely successful. but of course it's put them in the firing line when it comes to at least the french authorities in this instance is a french citizen at telegram back in 2015 was used by the terror attackers in paris on their bataclan terror attacks back then as well. and so telegram

has pretty much been in the crosshairs of the french authorities for some time now. and so we're waiting to see what the french authorities will do. will they hold the owner of this social media platform? accountable for the content that it carries that would be a really significant step if the authorities go ahead and prosecute pavel durov for that, in my view, it's really interesting because the kremlin is being very outspoken about his arrest. of course durov actually fled russia in operates telegram on, telegram operates out of dubai because he didn't want to be cooperating with the russian government are wanted some autonomy from it and yet, telegram has been something that the kremlin has been able to use when it comes to its propaganda processes, tell us about this yeah, i mean, the kremlin used telegram quite a lot. >> i mean, they they use it as a platform to carry your officially sanctioned propaganda. ukrainians use it as well as i say criminal gangs use it, pedophiles, nazis who

you name it, they, they, they use telegram and are very much in favor of the sort of unmoderated way in which operates. and it's led to this very strange sort of coalition of supporters for pavel durov, including autocrats and criminals and people files is extraordinary situation. >> yeah, it certainly is a matthew. thank you so much for the latest on that. boris this just in to cnn, the fbi says it has still not identified a motive in the attempted assassination of former president donald trump the investigation so far has also not identified any coconspirators were getting this from a call that the fbi is holding with reporters updating the investigation into the shooting at trump's rally on july 13 in butler, pennsylvania? >> as we get these details, we want to discuss with cnn, senior law enforcement analyst, charles ramsey. sir, thank you so much for being with us investigators. have gotten considerable insight into the shooters mindset from his

internet searches. but again, they don't have a specific motive that they've identified what do you make of that well, first of all, it's not that unusual not to be able to come up with a definitive motive in a case like this, the shooter is dead. >> and unless he leaves behind something in writing or be spoke with someone, or what have you it's very difficult to access they come up with a precise motive and that's exactly what they're trying to do now, i'm sure they've gone through as digital footprint to find out what's going on. they interviewed family, interviewed france to see whether or not he gave any indication as to what he was going to do and why he was going to do it. so they've got a lot of information, but it's not unusual to have difficulty of not ever finding a motive chief ramsey, this is the fbi's first briefing since getting a victim impact statement from former president trump how is that used in an

investigation like this? one more piece of the puzzle and remember, he's not the only victim he had other victims in this case, two. and so they one is deceased, of course, but another that was wounded other people that were witnesses. all those all that information is very, very useful and trying to piece together the case, it won't necessarily lead them to a motive. but that's part of an investigative process that takes place in not only a high profile case like this, but in homicides in general there were members of congress earlier this week who were visiting the site in butler, they're investigating the incident, this bipartisan task force how does that investigation going to be different from the fbi's? >> well, hopefully, it remains objective and doesn't become partisan. and i know it's a

bipartisan group that's conducting the investigation. but the investigation, it really will lead to some concrete information in my opinion would be that conducted by the fbi there may be some additional well information that may come out of the congressional inquiry and they should certainly go ahead and do it because again, we can't have anything like this happen again not just this election season, but at any point in time, i mean, we have very high-profile elected officials, secret service has responsibility for maintaining the safety and security of the president, vice president, the candidates and they just something happened and they. just didn't do it. and so someone has to take a deep dive into this to find out, is this a procedural error? what kind of mistakes were made and how do we correct them? the congressional inquiry will really be of some benefit, but it's criminal investigation that i think is the one that would lead to any kind of motive or more concrete

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and it's widespread and we don't always see it because parents don't always talk about it. i'm very often when i encounter parents across the country there talking to me about their kids challenges, not about their own, but in my work on youth mental health, i came to see very quickly that not only are parents struggling, but they're struggling, it's surprising levels 48% of parents are saying that they, on most days feel completely overwhelmed by stress. 48% of parents that's compared to 26% of other adults. so that tells us we've got a real challenge and there's a lot that's driving that parents are they're not only contending with the usual stressors come with being a parent wearing about finances and safety. but they're also worried about how to manage social media and phones for their kids, something that my parents didn't have to worry about. they're trying to figure out how to contend and with a youth mental health crisis and a loneliness epidemic that are hitting kids, really hard right now. so you put all that together with this really pernicious culture of comparison that has been amplified by social media that makes parents often feel like they are constantly comparing

themselves, other parents and falling short and you've got a recipe for this struggles that parents are guaranteeing today. >> you described it as a culture of comparison and it's interesting how it not only affects parents but their kid as well. and that's how you got to the conclusion that parents were being affected you write quote, parents who feel pushed to the brink deserve more than platitudes they need tangible support what what does that look like well, here's where this is coming from. >> i don't think there's anybody who would disagree that parenting is important in the country. but there's difference between saying something is important and me taking it a priority. and if we're going to really make supporting parents are priority. and we've got to have a major culture shift in our country such that we see parenting is central to the health and well-being of citizens society, parent a well-beings. i just a moment for parents, but my health of parents affects the mental health of kids. and if we want to raise kids who are healthy and strong and he would create, a foundation for our future that we should care about parenting and that's got to drive changes in three areas and policies and community

programs and individual action policies. we need more people we've for parents so that they can take time off to be with a sick kid. for example, we need parents to be able to get access to affordable childcare to high-quality mental health care and themselves and their kids. and on a programmatic level in workplaces, we need not just cultures about policies that support parents providing predictable schedules for example, that allowed them to accommodate work-life demands. but finally, i want us to never forget about the individual actions so we can take all of us know, parents and our life most likely. we may not know that those parents are struggling but not understanding the numbers as we do now we know that many parents are simply showing up for those parents to check on them to remind them that they're not alone. to offer to help run aaron for them or to watch their kid for a short period of time so they can just simply sit down breathe, take a shower, get a bite to eat. these seem like small things, but they go a long way. toward helping parents feel supported and seen, yet feeling like you have a safety net sometimes is

enough and you don't always have to fall back on it if you want to sort of crowd-sourced what some of your friends or your neighbors taking an interesting approach as surgeon general, i wonder if you can talk about it because you have advisories on social media, youth, mental health both loneliness, firearm, violence now, now this parental distress, if i can call it that, how would you characterize this this approach? it's a little different it's a little different because i when i began my first term as surgeon general, about almost ten years ago now, i was contending with the opioid crisis with e-cigarettes, with a number of other more traditional challenges there's per say. >> but what i came to see really quickly was that we have a mental health crisis in our country that, and that was true bacteria. my first term, it is even more true now so i've made much of my focus on mental health and well-being and trying to understand fundamentally what is driving the deeper struggles that people are experiencing. and

that's what led us to focus on youth in the uk and a health crisis and on other factors that are driving it, like loneliness and social media and what's happening with parents is one part of that broader puzzle that we've got to solve as a country doctor we only have a few seconds left, but i'm really curious about where you think this is headed. if there isn't the shift that you're talking about, this epidemic of loneliness specific well, if we continue down the path of increasing loneliness and isolation, we're going to see that manifest in both depression and anxiety and suicide, but also in the physical health complaints that we know are associated with loneliness, heart disease, dementia, premature death the bottom line is that we've got to start seeing mental health as health is no less important. >> gordon that our physical health. and if we can attend to both our mental and physical health, then we have a good chance of being happy, healthy, and fulfilled. and that's what we all want for ourselves. and especially for our kids. >> dr. murthy, it's great to have you thank you for joining us in studio for this conversation. >> i'm so glad we did this cnn

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