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starvation. a new plan to kill elephants zebras, hippos, and other wild animals for food. we're following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to cnn news central it's a battle for the battle battlegrounds as the race for the white house ramps up any moment now, vice president kamala harris will depart for georgia, or she and her running mate, governor tim walz pickoff, a two day tour, their ing will take them through thsoutrn part of the peach state as they reach t to voters in areas that typically lean republican, just to underscore how important georgia is. >> the harris campaign is pouring advertising money into savannah the first stop on their visit it's a state that president biden won. we should note, by fewer than 12,000 votes, four years ago all of this is coming as harris and walz prepare for their first

major sit down interview with cnn's dana bash that airs tomorrow. let's turn now to cnn's priscilla alvarez, who's live for us inavannah. so talko us, iscilla about how the campaign is zeroing o thatart of grgia well, ris, it's t st siificant that theice president and her vi esidential nominee, m walz, are in the criti battleground state, but ally notable about this trip is exactly where they're going to your point. >> that is southern georgia rural counties and it's taking a page from the playbook of senator warnock and his 2022 runoff. he had success in those areas by essentially losing by less peeling off voters from republicans. and the person who was leading that campaign, quentin fulks, is also the deputy campaign manager for the harris campaign, and he told told me that he is trying to bring that same strategy to this campaign. and in this case anticipating much higher turnout because it is a presidential election year. so what this looks like when you

boil it down is doing well in metro atlanta as they expect to do, while also trying to close those margins with republicans in the rural county he's in that they see is a pathway to victory in this critical state of georgia. but what democratic strategist also tell me is that something to watch out for here is a tim walz factor, of course, he has his rural upbringing. he has football and military routes and the question is, how he plays, how he resonates with the voters in southern georgia as they go on this bus tour now coinciding with this swing, as you mentioned, is the campaign pouring money into the savannah area media market over the last three weeks, already, 1.7 million in ads that's with much more expected. now those ads ran the gamut, run the gamut. we talked about it earlier in the week, they were focused on the economy. they're also launching ads on project 2025, which that blueprint that they're trying to tie the former president donald trump. now, trump has tried to

distance himself from that, but his former administration officials have been working on it, but all of this to say they are trying to draw a stark contrast between harris and trump, while also talking about the kitchen table issues which are really going to be front and center while they're on this bus tour. but again, boris coming back to the significance of this trip, it tells us that democrats still see an opportunity and southern georgia, which is something they saw in 2020 two, and they're trying to test it out again, whether or not it works, we'll find out in november, but certainly the campaign is making an aggressive play in this part of the state priscilla alvarez live for us following the harris campaign, live in savannah, georgia. >> thank you so much. let's get the latest on this upcoming interview tomorrow night with cnn's eva mckend, evil what questions are you anticipating that will be asked of the vice president and her vp pick boris. >> i know that there is a lot of attention on the policy differences. a lot of attention, for instance, on this issue of fracking when she ran as a presidential

candidate, she advocated for banning fracking that as a position that she no longer supports. but i am most interested in how she talks about immigration. you know, boris, if you read her memoir, the first organization that she visited after she was elected to the senate was cercla, an immigrants rights group in california. she gives a very passionate defense of undocumented immigrants. in her book, talking about how she was really distressed about families of potentially being separated under the trump administration, about how aggressively the trump administration were targeting undocumented immigrants. even those who are not committing crimes after being in the united states. well, now, she advocates for a border enforcement bill that doesn't even include a path wait, a citizenship for undocumented immigrants. so she should really have to explain her evolution on immigration. >> how about the fact that this is a joint interview? how is that going to shape the dynamic republicans are targeting her

for this, saying that she should have to speak for herself in this as far as interview, but she chose governor walz for a reason on the campaign trail as i watched them together, they have very good chemistry. they played well off of one another and ultimately she feels comfortable with him and americans are voting for the ticket. so i think it makes sense for them to appear together and it could work to her benefit eva mckend, thanks so much for the update. look forward to watching that tomorrow. brianna former president trump also sitting down for a new interview in a one-on-one with tvs, dr. phil trump made a pretty stunning claim about the assassination attempt against him. >> cnn's alayna treene is with us now on this story, what did trump say? >> well, he said a lot the things in that interview. but one of the interesting things was that he tried to place at least some of the blame for the assassination attempt in butler last month on both president joe biden and vice president kamala harris. now, we have heard him and other

high-profile republicans tried to argue that the rhetoric from democrats particularly you could hear trump references in that interview on the line about him being a threat to democracy as being something that could have perhaps contributed to this. of course, there's no evidence of that, but then he also went on to talk about his secret service detail. i want you to take a listen to exactly what he said when this happened people would ask whose fault is it? i think to a certain extent it's biden's fault and harris as well and i'm the opponent. look, they will weaponizing government against me. they brought in the whole doj to try and get me they weren't interested in my health and safety so a lot to unpack there, but parts about secret service. he went on to say that he thinks that they perhaps try to limit some of the secret

service that he has had or that that has affected the secret service protection that donald trump has. i mean, there's just no evidence of that whatsoever, although i will say that this is an unprecedented election, you have a former president who still has secret service detail, and then it was then a current sitting president who's both running against each other. now you have vice president kamala harris, so there has been a lot of strain that we have reported on thoroughly here on the secret service and whether or not that impacted them that day. i think we're still waiting to learn more details in their investigation. but all to say, this is some really nasty attacks now from donald trump are entering that news phase new phase of the election where we're going to continue to see some of this. there's obviously no evidence that vice president harris or president joe biden contributed at all to this, but he's trying to argue that their rhetoric, some of the land and perhaps did play a role that day donald trump has said this before. >> i think we're going to continue to hear some of these lines, but obviously no evidence to back it up. >> all right. alayna, thank you so much for that. we appreciate

it let's talk more about this with pollster and communication strategist frank luntz frank, listen so to what trump said something else he said in this interview, he covered a lot of things as alayna said, with dr. phil, this was about vote counting in california i look at california. >> i gave a speech. i had, so i had crowds so big. i said there's no way i could lose california, but automatically they mark it down if you're a republican as a loss that you lose by 5 million votes. i said 5 million votes. i guarantee if jesus came down and was the vote counter, i would win california. okay i do frank like to point out that jesus took some bread and fish and made a lot more bread and fish out of it. >> so maybe not the best vote counter, however i just wonder when you're looking at voters on decided independence, does this cut through? how do they see these kinds of comments i want to make one clarification

about jesus and politics. >> jesus was jewish he lived at home to lose 30. he went into his father's occupation and his mother thought he was god so that's something that donald trump should understand. is he speaking about jesus? >> nobody cares genuinely, nobody cares they don't care how big your crowd sizes. they don't care about whether you're going to win california, lose california. it's not relevant. california with all due respect to your california viewers, the state is not going when to vote republican, no matter what what matters is how it plays in pennsylvania, was constant. michigan, north carolina, which is not what for grabs. georgia, which is now up for grabs again or the states of nevada and arizona, that's all that madison and selection as somebody one number two is the negativity does not play the public is just frustrated with it. it's had enough of it. and when you compare the two candidates sam by side on

personality commonly harris beach, donald trump overwhelmingly but when you compare them on inflation, when you compare them, which is really affordability when you compare them on immigration, which is really security and safety in a sense of not being afraid in the country when you compare them on those two issues which matter more to the voters than anything else that's for trump as well. and i want to emphasize this to every viewer thinks i'm anti trump or anti-harris. >> if you talk about things that voters don't care about, they're not going to vote for you. >> and donald trump is already talking about this election being stolen. >> you can't steal something that you gave away i've never seen a candidates more missed the mark than trump as his advertising is exceptional, it's very explicit and very clear. >> but in terms of he himself, he's all over the map and he deserves the fact that he has been falling. but again, i have to give you one caveat and then i'll be quiet. he's actually

stopped falling. >> even though they had pretty strong convention last week. it looks like the harris bullitt has reached its peak. where they're having roughly a three point advantage i remind you that that was the advantage that hillary clinton had over donald trump. on election day 2016. and he still beat her in the electoral college. this election is way too close to call we do bring you on to make noise, not to be quiet, frank but i wonder as we see the vice president heading to georgia with her running mate, the latest new york times sienna college poll shows trump leading harris in georgia among registered voters, 51 to 44. >> so that's a, that's quite a spread right there, seven point spread is that what you think georgia is out right now? >> trump is leading in georgia and trump wins georgia and wins pennsylvania is going to be very puzzled as can indicate

what north carolina is going it's going to very hard for harris to win. those are the key states and we still go back to did donald trump choose the right vice president? vice presidential nominee? he did not need that to win ohio. did harris choose the right vice presidential nominee she does not need the governor of minnesota to win pennsylvania. i think that both campaigns are calibrated perfectly. both candidates are not and you're going to have this bigger divergence as time goes on between now the candidate performs and now the campaign performance and mark my word, they both matter the fact is that debate on september 10, when it is side-by-side is going to be mind-blowing. arguably, it's can be the most important day of this entire campaign, except for the day hey, want biden and trump had that same interaction and joe biden came up wanting yeah, know, very good point, frank. thank you so much for the great analysis we do appreciate it. >> and i can tell by the way,

if you're laughing with the jesus line, that wasn't jump. >> i was laughing. i was just thinking, are we going to get in trouble for our jokes? but no, i took i took your joke frank. >> thank you. appreciate it. ahead this hour on cnn news central, a new hampshire man has died after contracting a rare mosquito borne infection. it's known as triple e. what we know about this virus that has some new england states enacting curfews plus namibia. namibia says it is going to kill hundreds of wild animals were talking elephants, zebras, hippos, and offer their meet two families struggle killing amid the country's deadly drought, we are live from africa, but first, it's a story that you'll only see here. cnn gets an inside look at iran's hacking operation, including one of the phishing emails sent to trump's allies, that once clicked gabe iran, unfettered access to the user's computer trains train

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really this. cassian is wide net as sort of an intelligence collection effort that does focus on national security issues that are relevant to iran's future security, right? and want to take you inside a specific operation that we're learning more about this hack, hack and leak operation targeting a former trump administration official so who is close to former national security adviser john bolton. you'll remember john bolton very hawkish when it comes to iran. not exactly. one of her iran's biggest fans per say, but this former official had his personal email account compromised. iranian hackers were able to impersonate that former official. sending out a wide net of emails, protect tending to be this person seeking advice on a manuscript of book manuscript that they were working on. i'm gonna read one of the emails impersonating this former trump official that was sent to dc-based think tankers who are also hardliners on iran. it says, i'm close to finishing the manuscript and have begun asking experts like yourselves to review the chapters, the email then has a link and asks the recipients to click that link, purporting to

be innocent enough linking to the chapters of the book you want reviewed. it was actually a link to malware that would have given the hackers access to these various individuals accounts. what we don't know the scope of the success of this operation, but we do notice that the tactics are very similar to what we've seen recently by iranian hackers is saying moroccan hacking group at target trump campaign officials. i'm using roger stone's personal email account that they were able to compromise. we're also learning that they were able to successfully infiltrate the account of a former biden ambassador who has a lot of visibility into issues, issues dealing with israel. so you can kind of see why there, who they're targeting and why evan put this into context for us given the capabilities of iran compared to russia and china and other actors that have been aggressive toward the united states with the cyber attacks, right? >> well, we, i mean, they're clearly very much aggressive, but in comparison, the chinese obviously so much bigger and much more you know, much more forefront the forefront of this effort. and certainly the

russians had a lot of success in 2016, you know, they, they did influence that election into 2016. and so what the iranians are doing now certainly intelligence officials are very concerned about because they've gone from just routine intelligence collection to what appears to be an effort to try to influence voters before november. and that's what is the most concerning part of this. obviously, iran has a lot of things that, that's on their agenda, including, of course, people who were critics of the regime, but also, they clearly want to sow chaos with the 2024 election and sow that appears to be one of the efforts that they're making this year evan perez, zach. thank you so much. appreciate you both still to come. former president donald trump faces questions after a possible physical confrontation between staff at arlington national cemetery and his photography team?

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and free panel at for patriots.com the trump campaign is facing backlash for an apparent altercation at arlington national cemetery between the trump team and cemetery staff. the former president was in arlington on monday mark the third anniversary of the abbey gate bombing, when 13 u.s service members died in kabul, afghanistan, according to npr, while there trump campaign staff verbally abused and pushed a cemetery official when the official tried to prevent the trump campaign from filming in section 60, which is a section of the cemetery reserve for those recently killed in america's wars abroad. arlington national cemetery confirmed the incident, telling cnn, quote, federal law prohibits political campaign or

election-related activities within army, national military cemeteries to include photographers, content creators, or any other persons attending for purposes there were in direct support of a partisan political candidates campaign the trump campaign says an unnamed individual did block members of trump's team but denies a physical altercation occurred and they claim to have video to back up their account. however, they have not released that video. trump has. however, posted a video from his visit online fine in which he criticizes the afghanistan withdrawal under under president biden we didn't lose one person and then they took that disaster, believing joining me now is retired army general and former nato supreme allied commander wesley clark. sir, i just wonder what you make of this news and of this alleged altercation well, i think it's

totally inappropriate that donald trump has used that part of arlington cemetery that way for partisan political purposes. >> monday, but it's deeper than that first of all, we know that in private, he doesn't respect service, he doesn't respect to sacrifice. he's never for doughnut for anybody and show this was a stunt and it's particularly distasteful for those of us who have lost friends and these conflicts to see this kind of manipulation on arlington national cemetery. that's how long ground for us. and he should know better, but for president former president trump, anything's that can help him. that's what he wants. that's the only service. he's ever been in service to his own benefit here. so it's deeply offensive and it doesn't really matter whether there was a physical altercation or not. he was told not to do it so we don't want to get distracted by what there are some tape that shows. there

was a push or somebody put their hand job. he was wrong to do this, he should apologize to the national veterans community and to the families i wonder how you make sense of kind of two different things, which is yes, we know that in private, he's referred to people who have died in war as suckers and losers and that's really just the beginning of a long list of things. >> he didn't want to be pictured with veterans who were wounded. >> but then you have families of these 13 largely who feel seen by former president trump. >> and they do not feel seen by the biden administration that's very clear when you talk to a lot of them, we had paula canal self on yesterday. she's the mother of army staff, sergeant ryan christian canals, who died at abbey gate and then on the other hand, you have this sacred space, right? where so many service members are buried beyond these 13 and their rules. so that their

memory is not a political tool. how do you make sense of these competing interests? >> sure. would you, there's no problem if the family members want to endorse president trump that's perfectly within their right after all, we had a gold star father endorse president biden, and british eyes, president trump. and he came on again and the democratic national convention this man are kizer khan show fine. civilians are allowed to endorse anybody they want, but not to use that portion of arlington national cemetery for partisan political purposes they didn't have the right to use it for partisan political purposes and neither does donald trump and trump attacked mr. khan as well as his wife, who appeared it at the convention years ago so how should the campaign have comported itself?

>> it caught off you could have done the same thing was a was a tweet but not in arlington national cemetery. if he wants to attack president biden, if you want short taxi, afghan withdrawal, remember, he's the one who set it up he's the one who ordered the negotiation. he's the one who ordered the release of $5,000 bond. he's the one who said to our military, we can't accompany the afghan john combat missions so that we didn't get the correct information. so he has significant responsibility for the outcome of this. he's not blessing and most on this, but if he wants to use it in politics, that's his right. but not at arlington national cemetery yeah. >> certainly there's a lot of blame and many critics of biden's as well when it comes to the withdrawal. but i do i do wonder sort of just broadly if you can speak to this, this really comes down to the politicized jason of the

military specifically in this case, we're talking about those who paid the ultimate sacrifice. what do you wish people would understand about why that matters so much? >> this country has been formed and sustained by the sacrifices of men and women in uniform. and it, for years, there was conscription, there was a draft, and every american had an obligation to serve since the 1970s. that's not the case. these men or women who've died since are people who volunteered every american should feel in my view, an obligation to serve the country. most don't but they certainly those sacrifices certainly shouldn't be politicized and by either side, you know, there has been a long effort after the vietnam war or by the republican party to take over and gets support from the military and the democrats are the ones trying to cut the military budget. but donald trump hasn't been particularly kind to the military. and if you talk to any of the senior

officers who served anywhere near donald trump? they don't want him in office again. and if you talk to the people on the national security council steps, i'll tell you, not only is he sort of bumbling and incoherent at times, but he's just security risk. look at the secret documents he took those of us who served in military. we all had our security clearances. we all did everything to protect the country. and part of that was protecting the secret intelligence and donald trump stolen and now we've got a court case on it. so i think if you look at the big picture, you have to see what's happened here and the military shouldn't be in the political limelight. we're going to serve whoever the elected president is and we're going to be all legal orders the port of the constitution. it's about protecting and defending the constitution but he's a commander in chief, whoever he or she is. we're going to keep the military, especially those in uniform, out of the political business general

wesley clark. thank you so much for being with us. we appreciate it thank you, brianna. boris some news just in to cnn, the faa now says its grounding one of the most important rockets in the space industry spacex's falcon nine, most importantly, the rocket that was supposed to be used in the company's ambitious polaris dawn mission, which is now in limbo. >> kristin fisher joins us now live. kristen, why is this getting grounded? >> so last night, spacex had three big launches planned for its workhorse, the falcon nine rocket one crewed mission for the polaris dawn crew, and then to uncrewed to get starlink satellites up to space. the crude polaris dawn mission scrubbed due to weather then they moved on to this uncrewed starlink lunch and they successfully got all those satellites up to space. but the booster that propels those satellites up to space spacex is something that nobody else does with this booster and it lands the booster on something called a drone ship. after it

gets its payloads into orbit. and so last night, it suffered a very rare explosion on a drone ship. and this is a booster that is flown to space and back over 20 times. so it happened out in the middle of the ocean. nobody hurt nothing was severely damaged other than this drone ship and the booster, but the faa says they are now investigating this as a mishap investigation what does this mean for the folks that are stuck or maybe not stuck isn't the right word. they don't want us to say they're stuck. >> they were delayed on the international space station for months. >> it was supposed to be an eight day trip how does this impact them if spacex was supposed to get them down at some point in february? >> yeah. this was the backup plan. their their ride home it's really too soon to say and you'll likely the faa will clear this rather quickly within days or weeks and then, spacex can resume its launches. but it could have an impact. it could also significantly impact the launch of the polaris dawn crew, which is right now

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8085920400. that's when 808, five-nine, 2,400 today marks exactly one month since the disputed elections that spark unrest in venezuela authoritarian president nicolas maduro declared himself the winner of that vote. a claim that raised suspicions from the opposition and internationally as well. thousands of venezuelans have since taken to the street and protest. and political violence has claimed the lives of at least 24 civilians. and one soldier, vice president kamala harris is now calling on venezuela's armed forces to protect the country citizens she writes, quote, i strongly urge the security forces in venezuela to demonstrate restraint respect to human rights and freedom of expression of all venezuelans, and protect the venezuelan people from political threats and attacks violation of these rights only deepen the crisis and hinder efforts towards a peaceful and democratic trends position. let's get the latest from cnn's stefano pozzebon, who's in the region for us

efano the wake of this elecon, hundreds oactivist fleeing the untry. what more >> yes, ris, in the last few weeks, i was able to spe with several of the members of the opposition campaign, several freedom activist and these are people boris, you genuinely believed that a democratic change could happen in venezuela this year they believed it in the campaign run by maria corina machado, the opposition can leader, and they believed with the numbers that they have released, that says that edmundo gonzalez, the opposition candidate, one with over 67% of the vote. however, because of the repression from the forces of authoritarian president nicolas maduro, many of them have left the country. i think that there are more than 1,700 political prisoners

at this moment this morning in venezuela and jails according coming to a local ngo foro penal. and as i was saying, i was able to speak with several of them about ten of these activists who have all left the country through different means. who some of them did so legally, others did so clandestinely. they traveled to the neighboring country here in colombia, where i am, but also in ecuador and the united states and most of them asked me not to reveal their names. take a listen to what one of them told me but guest interested, anonymous after they put out an arrest order for me and i left, the police, took my wife and my daughter to make me surrender we are safe now, but my family remains in venezuela and i'm worried for them that climate of fear is perhaps the immediate legacy.

>> offer that controversial election, as i was saying, more than 1,700 political prisoners, right now, one of them are probably been added to the least as we speak, we're hearing that an opposition leader, he's been detained in caracas. as we speak boris. and so more and more repression and fear in venezuela it's steffano pozzebon. thank you so much for that important update still to come on, news central, namibia's controversial plan to kill hundreds of wild animals, including elephants zebras, and hippos in order to feed those struggling from this historic drought, the country is facing. >> plus the fbi has released never before seen pictures from the assassination attempt against former president trump flooding the explosive devices that were found in the trunk of the gunman's car we'll be right back good morning with dark glass good. good. a minor yeah don't collects two-week

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situation in southern africa, the country of namibia is facing its worst drought in a century. and it's now planning to kill over 700 wild animals were talking about elephants, zebras and hippos just to feed people who are hungry, this drought has pushed nearly half of namibia's population to the brink of starvation with both food and water becoming increasingly scarce cnn correspondent larry madowo joins us now, live with more larry. this is obviously a dire situation that's right, boris, brianna, desperate measures. namibia having to kill wildlife to feed people who are starving. and yet the country seeing it as a necessary evil. in fact, the ministry of environment, they're calling it sustainability intervention. why? because these animals will die anyway, because because of this drought, the worst in 100 years and the practical parts of this first, they will come from areas that the government

says have sustainable game numbers and they will be killed by professional hunters and distributed to people in need all across the country. so that is the background for that. what kind of animal that we're talking about? it's a fascinating number of different species. we're talking about here at three elephants, 60 buffaloes, 30 hippos, 300 zebras, 100 brute blue wildebeest, 15 pilots, and 100 ii lands so these are some of the animals that are earmarked for that already about 150 animals have been killed, providing more than 125,000 pounds of game meat to those that are needed across the country that maybe, and most of southern africa facing the worst droughts in a century because of the linear weather phenomenon, rain has dried out there, and this it has been exacerbated by the climate crisis and the other part of this is because the water is dried up, there's grazing lands are in limited supply. there's been some deadly human wildlife conflict. so especially the elephants have been going into people's homes

and the people fight back. and so this is part of the reason why 83 elephants, a part of this that's a big number. elephants are protected in many parts of the world, but southern africa has a population of about 200,000 elephants. so this will not make a big dent in that, but still truly desperate measures to see a country having to kill wildlife too just feed the people who are at risk of starvation, almost half the population. boris, brianna. >> yeah, it really tells us how bad things are, larry. thank you for that. we do appreciate it. and joining us now is wildlife biologist and host of wildlife nation, jeff corwin jeff talk to us a little bit about that. you heard larry's report there, professional hunters the idea is to do this in a sustainable way. do you have concerns as you look at this good afternoon, brianna and boris. >> so first of all, let me share that. my heart breaks for the people of namibia. this is one of my most favorite country. some of my greatest story i've told over the

course of 30 years have happened in namibia. incredible wildlife. the most extraordinary landscape on the planet it's a country that's known as being largely arid. a big part of it is the namib desert, one of the most celebrated deserts in the world and it desert that meets the coastline fine that is infamous for being tough to survive, hence its name, the skeleton coast. so it's tragic that they are in this situation with that said, i struggled to better understand how going into a national park and taking animals that are protected species, some of which are threatened like the yellow light, the african elephant, and having them being the most sustainable resource to help as an emergency to prevent this population from starving to death or dying of thirst namibia is unique, unlike the countries that surrounded,

maybe has a very small population compared to south africa, for example, a couple of million versus tens of millions of people. the other interesting thing about africa and specifically namibia, is because it's always been on the edge it's regard to rain and resources. many of those animals are transients, we look at elephant conservation. we shouldn't look at it individually as an image. but how it reflects interconnected to other countries that surrounded, for example, an elephant could spend its morning in namibia. and by the afternoon the crosses the show bay river and it isn't but sauna to that point, jeff, i'm wondering how you think the ecosystem and these herds might respond to this calling it as resilient, as the namibian government seems to think it is. >> well, we know that the

african elephant population has been under great threat because of the black market wildlife trade boris, which is 50 billion a year, illegal industry, and their poached for sometimes for bushmeat, but largely for their ivory. >> a lot of these other animals now find themselves in peril because of drought. >> people are now going to protect his spaces, not just in the mid-70s up, but in kenya and tanzania they're now going to national parks and preserves to graze their cattle for these nomadic communities that move from one place to the other to follow the reins. >> but i don't know how how resilient these populations are already to survive in namibia, because it's a desert there on the edge of survival as it is namibia has far smaller populations of wildlife compared to other countries. >> so they find themselves in this desperate place, but it's quite shocking to see that they

feel that they're at this recourse where they have to kill their own symbols of their natural heritage yeah, really a shocking that they're at this point, jeff corwin. >> thank you. we appreciate your time. >> and still ahead. the fbi releases never before seen pictures from the assassination attempt against former president trump, sharing why investigators there's believed trump was targeted and they really going to spend all day streaming college football on directv. can you blame them? they've got the biggest rivalries and bowl games, speaking frank, run a slant to the bolded chips. >> bobby wouldn't hook to this salsa what are you going to do? coach prime, don't question. you. coach harlem has everything but i couldn't find pilates anywhere we were i started my own studio and with the right help, i can make this played by law even better, earn up to 5% cash back on business essentials, chasing business cash card from chase for business the best part of any

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