ashley. >> yet ten years ago to this very day barack obama stood at the podium and wore a tan suit. the whole world within an uproar about it, republicans were calling for investigations. fox news were running headlines saying how undignified it was that the president united states is wearing a tan suit, vintage politics, how far have we come i've been incredible kamala harris and her coconut brown at the dnc was a whole thing as well. they let happen. i my how times have changed. everyone. thank you very much for joining us and thank you. for watching these night's state of the race. laura coates live starts right now georgia back in play,

the new data backing divide tonight, a political mystery in florida enters day number 20. why hasn't donald trump revealed his stance on the state's abortion amendment, and a trip down memory lane. you won't want to miss ten years since the scandal that shook washington, dc. tonight on laura coates live georgia georgia. president donald trump cannot win this election unless he wins georgia. and that's not me saying that is a fact as are the top republican in the state believes governor brian kemp said the following this very week saying quote, there's no path for former president trump to win or any republican again to get to, to 70 without georgia you know, who else might know that the harris campaign, they're now stepping

on the gas in the battleground state literally vice president harris and governor tim walz spent today on a bus traveling the southern part of georgia near savannah, topping at a high school band practice a barbecue pit. they're targeting rural parts that tend to vote republican and they know they may not win these pockets. but i think the thinking go if they lose some by less that could be all the difference in a state that was just one by under 12,000 votes the last time now, such as the vibes and have democrats thinking the state is suddenly in play. it's also the numbers. a brand new fox news poll out tonight has harris up 50 to 48. it's within the margin of error. so technically tied. but look at your screen there is no denying that she has changed the race face would fox poll georgia back in april, trump was up 51 to 40 45 against president biden. that's outside the margin of

error. >> so harris and walz tomorrow we'll keep stepping on the gas and georgia with a second day of their bus tour and there will be one very very important pitstop along the way. >> their joint interview with my colleague dana bash that will air right here on cnn at 9:00 p.m. eastern. it'll be harris is first interview since becoming the official nominee. while democratic congresswoman lucy mcbath of the state of georgia joins me now. she's a member the house judiciary committee also has endorsed the harris-walz ticket. congresswoman. thank you so much for joining me this evening. and also as a personal note, i have to tell you and watching your presentation and your statements at the dnc. i cannot imagine a more poignant moment at any convention to describe your sen. to describe the loss that you and the other mothers and parents and a teacher experience. it was truly eye-opening and i hope that you have received the appreciation from those who want this to never happen

again. >> thank you so much, laura, that means a great deal to me and so many survivors like myself, we just want to make sure that our loved ones are never forgotten, but that we do everything in our power that we can to make sure that these tragedies don't happen to anyone else. >> absolutely. you become a champion for all of us mothers who hold our children that much tighter every time we recall. so thank you. >> i want to turn the page for a second, though, and i want to get your reaction to this new poll from the state of georgia that everyone everyone's focusing on tonight. >> it's from fox news harris, edges, trump by two points, but there's still no clear leader because that margin of error that's actually though a huge shift from when biden was in the race and then losing by six points. what do you make of this? this new change? >> well, actually we're very excited about this, but of course, i don't doubt it at all. we know the georgia is a

very critical battleground state, but we do know how to win races here in georgia, and we know that vice president harris and tim walz are doing everything that they can to reach every voting demographic all across the state they're listening, they're paying attention, they're listening to the needs of the voters, and they're doing their job of course, it's really hard to win races here in georgia. it isn't difficult to do so. >> i know that more than anybody else. when i ran in 2018, i ran on a gun safety policy agenda as a black woman here in georgia, people said, i couldn't when he was unprecedented, it would never happen. but i won by 1% of the vote in the suburbs. in the state that was once held by newt gingrich we know how to fight. we know how to win. and that is the model of the harris-walz campaign. when we fight, we win it is their motto and they're going to areas that have not really been traversed by many democratic

candidates since the 90s relay when glenn clinton won. >> but you represent a suburban atlanta district. i am curious what your constituents are telling you about their concerns and how they feel about the harris-walz ticket addressing them while they are very concerned about exercising the right to vote. as you know, most recently here we've had issues with our state elections board and they have passed a rule that would possibly delay or not certified the county elections. that's very cool. concerning to us because georgia families want to make sure that their voices are heard more so they want to make sure, make sure that their voice and their vote counts. there. >> you are no stranger to a lot of the obstruction and the divisiveness with with voting and elections here in georgia. but as we have always done, we will stand on the shoulders of those that have come before us. our icons martin luther king, junior and andrew young. ralph

david abernathy. and will continue to fight, will continue to make sure that all of the obstacles that have been placed in our way to obstruct the ability for people to exercise the right to vote. >> we're going to challenge those obstructions at every turn. this is not new for us, but we're ready to fight. well a spokesperson for the governor, congresswoman says that he is asking the attorney general and are all of this aid if if he has the authority to remove members from the election board, a board, i should note, raffensberger, secretary, ever described as a mess is the governor doing enough by one and taking out that authority to remove the members, but also enough to anticipate any event he cannot well, we have not had any response from the governor yet, but we do hope that he is going to follow the rule of law that is his responsibility as the governor of the state were

hoping to hold him accountable as well as the electors on the state election board. >> we'll just have to wait and see, but i do know that my colleagues and i are not going to stand by. >> we're going to do everything in our power to make sure that every voter in the state of georgia exercises the right to vote and that those, that the elections are certified in a timely manner. >> that is the role of the state election board. and we're going to hold them accountable to that. >> as they say, democracy is not just in the voting, it's also in the counting. and i guess now in the certifying congresswoman lucy mcbath. thank you so much for joining thank you so much. >> let's talk about all this with our panel, tia mitchell washington correspondent for the atlanta journal constitution is here. shermichael singleton, i, cnn commentator and republican strategist, chuck rocha, a democratic strategist, is here as well. so glad to have you all here congratulations, of course, to jackie is a newlywed

yards very sweet he has been off the market, but but not onto the market of politics for a second, telea, begin with you. this is your state and everyone is looking at georgia. but it's also not just georgia, right? it is the fox poll showing this dead heat in places like arizona also in nevada. and nevada, i was told in that i hear you, it's nevada, north carolina as well is this sort of resetting battleground states as we speak? >> well, i think it's putting states that we're starting to look not so battleground like back into the battleground category if you will. and those includes states like georgia, like nevada like arizona, like north carolina, where, you know, there were times when biden was on the ticket, especially georgia, north carolina that it just seemed out of the question. and now i think it's important to note,

it's not just about, of course, it's about winning, but for right now, as the polls tighten, it's about the money. kamala harris is raising a lot of money. she's got a lot of money to spend. she's forcing donald trump to spend money to, in states that just a few weeks ago, he thought he had in the bag and that can make a big difference as we get closer to election day. because all these, you know, all these choices in campaigning have consequences. >> no one can get to overly confident when it comes to elections. they were 70 what, 70 days away from the general election. and early voting starts as well. a lot of people had been talking about the impact of biden on down-ballot races and whether he could get the senate and whether he'd be able to have a true majority. >> the poll though, check it also showed that democrats and senate races in places like arizona and nevada outperforming harris. does this give democrats new hope that they might be able to retain and add to their leaving the senate. >> there's a few things that

fact, in a campaign and folks know i'm one of the few folks who've run a presidential campaign. and this post to the election, there is no such thing as head pops. you, whatever you're doing, watch where they go because there's one thing in a campaign, shermichael knows this, you can never get back. and that's tied. so they're there for a reason, they would not be there to try to faki by yeah. they're there because they think they can win. and these down-ballot races have done one thing which is overperformed, trump at every step. there's one thing i've to folks about donald trump is there's only one donald trump. when you put that mantle on somebody else, he just doesn't get the performance from voters. it's much like on the other side, bernie sanders folks tried to be bernie sanders in 2016. there was only one bernie they want the real thing that's why i think you see that separation down-ballot. what about trump? they kept the campaign. this has got to be pretty eye-opening for them before it was a 12,000 vote margin and thought they had the security of the georgia republicans coming out strong. but this is not bode well for trump's confidence, i would assume that he can get georgia this time. >> i mean, that's why you saw the form of protests president repair and his relationship with the governor who has 64% approval in the state. he's

doing a fundraiser. i think either today or tomorrow for the former president going down in south georgia attempting to turn out those voters is going to be absolutely pivotal. a tia made an interesting point earlier today about how the fundamentals in certain cities like atlanta have completely changed and made the state it really more competitive is a lot of people of color are moving their, so it's not just enough to perform well in the suburbs as a republican, you really have to turn out laura, those low propensity rural voters who typically don't vote in every single election, some of the gun owners in georgia who typically don't vote in every single elections. so you're seeing the campaign spend resources there. but i do think they have to become a little bit more judicious. the harris campaign is in south georgia for a reason. i'm not necessarily certain that they're expecting to win south georgia, but strategically speaking, if you can force your opponent to spend resources where they don't want to spend those resources. and you have more money to spend and other places where you need to close up that gap. it does make it a lot more difficult. for republicans. one of the things that their focus with key data

points talking about the polling. >> but one of the big data points i think for many voters is going to be this interview tomorrow on cnn. you know, you've got harris and walz together with dana bash. it's the first interview that they've had since really announcing. it's been several weeks now that we've known that biden's not in the race, how consequential do you? we think this interview is going to be a for voters to see the dynamic at play and the specificity of the platform. >> he's got a whole lot of people who've omar side of the aisle, who've been happy saying wean him, we ain't crazy. vote for us because we ain't trump they have to introduce himself now, really nobody knew who the vice president was a danger, didn't know who tim walz was but on this show to remind everybody, i called the football coach early on with you laura coates, show but that's why they won't people to get to know him in that way as the football coach or as a woman who grew up in a house who she had to read the story she told at the convention about knowing the proud of her mamas face. that's you only get one chance to make a first impression and they've been riding a high. now they've got to get down to real talk about policy. and i think that's why

it's so important. >> you so far you think about how many impressions you had me. she's been the vice president for three-and-a-half years. she's been a senator as she's been attorney general of california, minnesotans obviously know who tim walz's and he was a member of congress. but there is the consistent re-introduction we were talking about the national stage 70 days from 2700. >> let's welcome. it won't matter tomorrow. i'm 69 days, so it doesn't get mad again. >> talk to me about the impact of this particular interview as you're seeing it, in how the overall context is going to be viewed as one data point before the debate. >> yeah, i think it's important because yes, from the but the story they're telling, their story also showing off their ticket in their chemistry. that's important but also putting the meat on the policy will be important. yes, people know kamala harris, the vice president. they might not know a lot about her, but they know who she is but kamala harris, the presidential candidate, has only been around for about six weeks. and so there's a lot for her to

introduce as far as what type of leader xi would be. i think she did a good the job in her speech with be at the dnc, but now it's going to be put to the test because now it's not just her delivering a speech. she's got to respond to the questions as not knowing what's going to come her way. >> and it's not just her tia on that point. i mean, it's also walz together and it's not unheard of at all to have joint interviews as this happens quite frequently. we totally different political landscape and a truncated schedule. but she's already been criticized or they're suggesting that he is a chaperone or suggesting that he is a security blanket, not a running mate. i mean, look at this, harris gets an interview crimes. this is the wall street journal and i'm publishing at one point we knew this was coming, but does this make a difference in terms of this having legs for people know, i don't think it really matters. i mean, i've seen a lot of conservatives have sort of brought it up on social media personally, who cares? i think what's more important lower is how the two of them respond to actual policy we've seen the vice president attempt to moderate and alter her positions on multiple issues.

she wants believed then when she was a senate senator, positions that she held when she was a candidate for presidency. the first time around and she's changed on all of those fronts. and so i think for some of those skeptical voters in places like pennsylvania, where it's still very close. they want to know what would you do over four years was given the opportunity that you could not have done over three-and-a-half years as vice president. that's something that i think republicans should really be focused more on instead of several, whether or not walz is with her or not. that's i think that's a moot point for voters. they want to know what can you do to improve my lot in life in terms of cost, in terms? so of immigration, in terms of foreign policy, where we find ourselves in an expense of conflict over the next two years, potentially, those questions, i think voters really want answers to and i'm hoping that dana bash will absolutely forced the vice president to provide some concrete details because we haven't seen that thus far. >> you have to wonder, especially given the way in which we were introduced to walz on a national stage, his military record and service called immediately into

question, pitted against senator j.d. vance himself, also a veteran. and you've got this news out today where the trump campaign has an under fire for what they're calling an incident at arlington national cemetery. and pr reports that a cemetery official tried to stop the trump campaign in from filming the area where recent veterans had been buried and federal law does prohibit, by the way campaign or election-related activities. there. and then trump posted a campaign video to tiktok. he says that he had their permission of the families that those who have fallen but this is something that i think will check a core with me many people, given the way that we were introduced nationally to walz military service trump's previous comments, how will this bode well or not for the campaign? and going forward, i think there was a reason and a real difference in the way we saw this convention go down for democrats and democrats talk about patriotism. i think that was very much us trying to get back the flag and say, look, we're patriotic i can't republicans. we all believe we've all fought in these wars, but this is very personal

for lots of veterans and lots of folks that are undecided. i worked for votevets and organization for many, many years and help start the organization with john salts, who was a dear friend of mine when i used to go to arlington cemetery with him way back when memorial days, you would see folks and he first thing he told me because i wasn't in the military. my father my grandfather was in world war ii. he say, here's the protocol. you should know this protocol. i know you're well-meaning, but this is how you act when you're at the cemeteries. and i was so appreciative that john would tell me that they helped me learn because it's a very solemn place. and when you're out there, especially on memorial day it's not, happy memorial day. it's learning the respect this sacred ground, and i think that cuts across lots of party lines and could really hurt in many ways. >> you have to go ahead. >> i'm just gonna say i just think it was an unforced error. i think there was a space for trump to create contrast that you know, on monday, he was remembering those 13 people killed during the pullout from afghanistan. you know, president biden, vice president harris chose to put out statements, but they did not have any public or forward

facing events to commemorate the day. and so trump was able to lead the way he started out, making that contrast and criticizing the withdrawal from again, a stand if he had left it there, i think it could have been a political win for him, but the choices he made at the cemetery from camp creating a campaign video, the altercation with someone who's just literally doing their job in trying to uphold the rules in solace of the place now, he's got this negative news cycle that didn't have to be there. and it's going to cloud. and quite frankly, trump on the issues of veteran and military service that's not the strongest position of trump because he isn't a veteran and was accused of draft dodging. so instead of it being a win for him, it's it's, it's alive ability, unforced errors. >> how many are you allowed? 70 days of before an election. thank you so much, everyone. and ahead, we still don't know what donald trump thinks about

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success passing ballot measures rejecting restrictions well, trump's state of florida, which bans abortions at six weeks, has a vote coming up this november. it's called amendment four. and if passed, it would protect abortion access in the state of florida. but voters have no idea where trump stands on this, at least not yet. the last time he was asked about this was on august 8. and here's what he said. then well, i'm going to announce that i'm going to actually have a press conference on that at some point in the near future. >> so i don't want to tell you now, but florida does have a vote coming up on that and i think probably the vote will go in a little more liberal way than people thought joining me now is one of trump's fellow florida resident and top allies, congressman byron donalds, who says he is opposed to amendment for congressman. >> thank you so much for

joining us. congressman, you have made your position clear. others have as well. >> but it's been 20 days since trump said that he would reveal his position on the florida abortion amendment, and he hasn't. >> why not? >> well, it's good to be with you, laura. look, i don't want to tell you a why or why not because there's really for the president to answer and him alone. but he's obviously focused on the presidential election i think he's also aware that, yes, depending on what his decision might be, the harris campaign is going to try to use that because he's been very clear that the federal zero level he will not sign any abortion bans at the federal level because he believes that this belongs to the states. now in the state of florida, as citizens everybody is going to make a decision on what they want to do. on amendment four. i've made my position clear. i'm opposed to it, and the reason why i'm opposed to amendment four is number one, i do not think we should regulate abortion in the state's constitution. number two, as the amendment is right and it is very vague. it talks about

abortions up to viability. viability could be as much as 22 to 25 weeks now. and even florida's previous law did not allow abortions after 15 weeks. and so this is something where i think the voters of florida are going to have to make it decision. obviously, donald trump votes in the state of florida. he's going to come out and make a statement on his position when he's prepared to. but when it comes to abortion nationwide, he's been very clear that as the 47th president of the united states, he is not going to entertain or sign a national ban on abortion at any level. >> what congressman certainly, this is a florida specific notion, but it also could be read as a barometer for a national electorate who are very, very interested deeply so, and reproductive rights as a part of the conversation, there are some anti-abortion activists who are wanting him to come out and actually state his position and are angry that he has not done so. they're upset that he said he's going to be and i'm quoting great for women and reproductive

rights. so and one activist says that he sounds like a democrat, and they said, it looks like trump is joining the other side. i mean, the silence from many is deafening do you think that voters ought to be able to hear after all this time and wait, not waiting for more preparation, were 70 days before the election shouldn't they hear from him now? >> well, actually, i don't actually agree with that. president trump is going to make that decision when he's prepared to make that decision, like every elected official in florida makes that decision in their own timetable it came up in a town hall meeting last night that i had in my district. i chose to make my position known at that town hall meeting. everybody is going to do that. >> i think i don't want to get you off, but i don't want you know, i give you a chance to speak by just want to understand a little bit more about the preparation part of it. >> what did you have for preparation that you think donald trump is still lacking to make his position clear? i

actually was said that's not the way to look at it at all. i have i had a chance to read the amendment. i did that and then i move forward. i decided when i was going to make an announcement to my voters about what my position was. donald trump is in a very different position than i am. he obviously is running for the highest office in the land what he does as a citizen of florida is a decision he's going to make. but you made the you raised the key question. they'll barometer because we do understand that in this political environment, you have people on a national perspective who are going to try to see through his decision on amendment four in florida to dictate what he might do in the future as president of the united states. and what i want to communicate to you is that as the 47th president, he is not going to sign a national abortion ban of any length. he believes it should be left to the states. and as a citizen of florida, he's going to make that decision as a citizen of our state, like every other citizen of florida has the right to do i understand the distinction you're making that

as a voter, his personal views will be on display, but as a leader and a national president, he'd be acting in service of the people who have elected him are all americans at that point. >> if he were elected. >> but there's still are many bits expectation that he would have his position in line with how he would ultimately conclude with the national ban as well. >> but they move on to another point because what we're talking about is most assuredly congressman going to be a part of the debate coming up in less than two weeks. and trump said yesterday that he, they have reached an agreement to have muted microphones. harris's campaign is actually not yet confirmed that surprisingly, well that i heard from say senator ted cruz, who said that trump should just agree to whatever rules they want. essentially articulating that this is all some pretextual reason for her not to want to debate. and this is a distraction. do you agree with senator cruz that he should just agree and get the debate? >> well, i believe that president trump and vice president harris i harris, i

think they both want to debate. i think the thing about microphones, quite frankly, the reason why kamala harris wants them open is because she does want to use that as an opportunity to interrupt interrupt president trump to try to create so moments in contrast or conflict with president trump. and i don't think that really isn't the best interests of the american people. we were just talking about amendment four and what's donald trump's position? but the american people need to hear clearly what our kamala harris has positioned on many issues that the president of the united states, the next one it's going to have to weigh in on. she's not lead us really see any of those issues. so i think in a debate, muted microphones are the best because both candidates need to be able to project clearly what they're going to do as the commander in chief, we've seen these debates in the past where there are more about hot takes and highlight it reels as opposed to clear policy positions and american needs clear decisions,

clear policies, and clear leadership. kamala harris hasn't stipulated any of that. i think it's actually an hurt interest to have muted microphones as well. so the american people can think, can hear clearly from her what she intends so do if she becomes the next president well, one, i think both candidates would like the opportunity to interrupt your hoping for a moment from a debate, but to harris has laid out some economic ideas basically tied to lowering housing costs. >> now they're 3 million new homes, $25,000 for first-time homebuyers i know that this has been equal parts panned and praise with this specific details and beyond. but we haven't heard the specificity that you are seeking from harris from trump consistently as well. do you have the same standard that you want both candidates on behalf of the american electorate to be able to have that granular my new show sure. and specificity on this stage well, laura, we've got now we've got to be honest and direct. >> kamala harris is economic plan has been panned mostly.

there's been very little very little praise about this plan. $25,000 for first-time homebuyers is only going to raise the price of homes on first-time i'm homebuyers by $25,000. her price gouging or price control regime. however you want to phrase it, is only going to lead to scarcity amongst food products and potentially higher prices as well. so that's not going to help and that's not just me saying it. you have economics, economic economists on the right in the center and the left who were all saying that. but to a broader level, donald trump has been given interviews day in, day out, so has j.d vance, people know what donald trump is going to do because he was already president and he did it his positions are on his website very, very clearly kamala harris has not given any specific specificities, let alone any vision of what she really wants to do from a public policy position. and then you have the flip-flopping that has occurred, the pressure is on her in this debate to

demonstrate, i would argue that her support right now as a mile wide, but an inch deep the support for donald trump is rock solid. it is not moving. so the pressure is on kamala harris to communicate to the american people. donald trump has been communicating to the american people for, for really nine years now, people know what donald trump is going to do as the next president well, i think there is some factual support. obviously if they idea that there is something lacking about the specificity, even over the past, i think nine years you've quoted, he may have been in the public eye. he certainly has been the president united states, but i think the debate and the next 70 days are going to be crucial for electoral votes. first to understand what their positions are, not just grand overtures or statements and bald assertions, but actually the specificity of how one plan to get from point a to point b. and in my opinion, humbly, it's on both campaigns to do that for the american electorate congressman, thank you so much for joining us.

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states of america. and in 2020, joe biden was the candidate. the platform said, quote democrats continue can you to support abolishing the death penalty? but here we are in 2024 and the death penalty has not been abolished, but it has been omitted as an issue from the party's platform. >> live a change. >> anything to do with the candidate itself, you have to wonder kamala harris is santos death penalty. >> it has changed multiple times. as san francisco's da harris refused to charge the death penalty and she didn't, even under immense pressure to do so when a 21-year-old gang member was accused of killing a police officer when harris ran for california attorney general, she softened her tone, saying, she would quote enforce the death penalty as the law dictates. and again, she kept that promise. but when she ran for the senate in 2016, harris portrayed herself then as a progressive prosecutor as the

phrase was no in favor of sweeping reforms like imposing a moratorium on the death penalty. so what does she think now? and does the omission of the death penalty from the platform reveal anything? let's bring in new york city councilman and member of the exonerated five, yusef salaam huntsman. thank you so much for being here. i mean, former president trump he took out ads calling for the death penalty be reinstated over the 1989 rapes. women in central park, you were wrongfully imprisoned for that crime. do you take issue with the fact that democrats are now removing abolishing the death penalty from their platform i think it's important to really consider all of that because when i think about my so to speak part in time, right. >> the central park jogger case donald trump said he wanted the death penalty to be reinstated specifically for our case had he had his way, we would have been we would have been put to death but imagine this, the

real perpetrator because they got this case so long was out there committing more crime, ultimately, killing and maiming many of his victims, killing one of his last victims load has gonzalez i think when i think about something such as the death penalty, which is the sole strong, we absolutely should abolish it because why? because if one person is in prison for crimes, they didn't commit if there's so many things around that case that says this person didn't do it, then we definitely should not put that person to death. i'm thinking about people like george davis in this particular instance the death penalty should be on the platform and we really should abolish it in america why do you think it's off the platform? >> and typically given i remember when merrick garland, the attorney general was being confirmed, he himself, who had been a prosecutor in the case of timothy mcveigh. he talked about supporting death penalty at the time, but then he said that he didn't have any regret about process the king the case, but that he had since

developed concerns about the death penalty in the 20 some years since then, tried exciting a large number of exonerations that have occurred and the increasing because in increasing almost randomness or arbitrariness of its application and enormously disparate impact on black americans and members of communities of color hello given that's his position in the federal moratorium discussions. why do you think it's not on the platform i can't speak to why it's not, but i can't tell you why we really should put it back on the platform i sit on the board of the innocence project and ap the hundreds of people that we have allowed to see a day three because of dna evidence that in and of itself is enough to say that we got something that we have to look at. >> the system is not perfect and it never will be. but we have an opportunity to at least plugged the holes, allow for people to live another day and not be put to death. we've seen so many times where people in power have said, you know what,

my last act is either going to, i'm going to pardon so many people or i'm going to murder kill so many people by the state. and of course those people looked like me they look like brown people. they looked like black people in particular and that's egregious you have called on many reforms then also include the abolition of juvenile solitary confinement, capital punishment, of course, as well. one of many issues that you have been so passionate about, thank you for joining us today, councilman, use of salaam. thank you. >> my pleasure. and thank you as well. thank you for having well, imagine you're living your life, your mind, and your own business when all of a sudden you find out that your image has been stolen, it's been edited, and get this it's been plastered all over social media with a message to voters. >> vote trump. >> that's what's happening to dozens of women. and a cnn investigation about it is next i've spent my career working

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views it saying vote for trump in 2024 what's your reaction my to be honest, what was my reaction? >> that was my reaction because i have nothing to do with the united states was crump the political things over there and if people following this account believe that this is, you, what do you want to say to them? that it's definitely not me definitely it was never me and it will never be me and they have to i'm unfollow, please wtf sounds about right to me, cnn reached out to x regarding these accounts, but did not receive a response. >> however, in the last 24 hours before publishing, x took down the majority of the accounts, there's no indication that the trump

campaign is involved joining me now, emily horne, she's founder of a leg grow public affairs and former spokesperson for the u.s national security council for twitter. thank you for joining me, emily. i mean, this is pretty unbelievable to think about. i mean, but debby, she's not alone in this. there are a number of i think it was nearly 60 fake accounts. how widespread is this problem? >> oh, first thanks so much for having me here, laura, it's great to be with you and to be talking think about this really important topic in the run-up to the elections. >> so there's a rich, rich case here, and there's a lot to unpack. >> first, it's not surprising that whoever is behind this is using images of conventionally attractive and young women to gain followers and likes and gain traction on social media platforms. it's widely been documented that that's a great way to get followers what's new about this network of accounts which to be clear, we don't know who was behind them still that attribution is still undetermined, and it may be very difficult to assess from the outside. but what's new here are some of the techniques that the perpetrators are

using. first of all, they're pulling image does from other social media platforms like tiktok and instagram and repurposing them on x. so there's cross-platform activity. there also using the same women's images throughout the accounts. so we've seen before where about actor will impersonate someone by stealing their profile extra and then tweeting a whole bunch of memes or a bunch of span the content. but this is labor-intensive. whoever is doing this, they are that have been red flag earlier that had all that cross pollination, the same women, the same wording at different points in time. >> so there's a couple of things there. so there isn't track record. and among social media platforms working together when there are clear laws against this kind of cross platform activity. so when you're talking about things like terrorist content or child sexual exploitation, there is a track record of groups working across industry the big platforms and also some of the smaller ones that will work

together to find images. the break the law the interstitial them, or watermark them so they can't be repeated. but the difference is that's illegal behavior. we all agree that this is illegal behavior and this is the kind of place where the laws simply have not caught up with the technology. >> so how did the user is weed out the fake from the reel that seems like an impossible ask. you believe that they can identify so something that i think is great for everyone to keep in mind in the run-up to this election, is that if it seems too good to be true on the internet, there's a real good chance that it's a bad actor that someone is lying to you. >> if you're looking at a picture of a beautiful young woman who is just tweeting over and over things that reaffirm your political beliefs. and there's no other content that's a good sign that maybe you should take a second look or think twice before amplifying are following this content yet the eco chambers indulge that very premise that no, you're not alone. they do. but look, i was at twitter in the aftermath of the 2016 election, and i can't tell you how many calls i took from

reporters and researchers and congressional staffers all wanting to know, did we find the russian account? did we find the network of russian accounts and those miss the forest for the trees because the damage that was done there, yes, the russians incited a lot of it, but we did a lot of damage to ourselves by plucking this content from the muck of the internet, having and politically divisive figures lifted up and amplify it, and then making it a part of our political discourse history might repeat itself. >> let's hope not, emily. thank you so much, emily horne, everyone. up next. >> it was these scandal that rocked the country ten years ago to tan gate and suitcase. >> the outrage that ensued after this wish, my tv provider, let me choose what i pay for all wish my tv provider let me choose what i pay for handling paul, it's lots of friction went on offline. what do you do that using customize

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when was the last time you saw president obama's suave in beijing? and earth tones for crying out loud. >> he is a president coming out as such, a serious moment, we he should be addressing the country three on such a serious matter. and he looked like he was on his way to a party at the hamptons, only the democrats and only liberals could actually elect a guy with a tan suit, dark color suit when you're doing simple, we haven't seen or go for all out cyr second i want to talk fighting domestic terrorism look like you're welcome to focus on whatever aspect of the news conference you would like. but if you want to actually understand what the presence trying to communicate, i would encourage you to take a close look at his words while we're where jones well, in retrospect at all seems so tame compared to the flurry of political scandals these days. i mean, it was just a tan suit not to mention republican icon ronald reagan wow, he weren't the same suit obama actually honored the anniversary today posting this