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interview, vice president kamala harris and her running mate, governor for tim walz. >> sitting down today with cnn's dana bash, the white house, hopeful opens up for the first time since president biden left the race and the army it is pushing back, accusing former president donald trump's campaign of ignoring both federal law and tradition, and his appearance at all and done national cemetery saying a cemetery sorry employee was quote abruptly pushed aside. the latest details on this incident and change of venue. the suspect in the murder of four students in idaho wants his trial moved. bryan kohberger's defense team claiming there's a mob mentality in the county where he is set to be tried. we're following these major developing stories and many more all coming again, right here to cnn news central first off this afternoon, the much and too who paid interview,

right now, vice president kamala harris is in the critical battleground state of georgia it's day two of her bus tour as she reaches out to voters and republican strongholds and this afternoon, harris is historically fast rise to the democratic nomination he's expected to face its next critical test when she sits down alongside her vice presidential pick minnesota governor tim walz, for an exclusive interview with cnn's dana bash, which airs tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern. >> this will be the first major television interview of a presidential campaign. the first chance for americans to see harris in this format, unscripted on the key issues facing the country cnn's priscilla alvarez is traveling with the harris campaign. she's in savannah, georgia for us. priscilla, obviously a big day for harris tonight a rally there. and then this cnn interview that's right, boris and sources have told me over time that the way the vice president prepares for anything is extensively and intensely

and that is the approach that she is taking for this interview. >> in previous interviews, major interviews that she's done one former adviser telling me that she will often include prep sessions over several days and involve multiple teams to be read up on all of the policies and include the subject matter experts in that preparation. and it is these interviews that are going to be critical, including the one tonight, because as you mentioned, it has been a scripted and choreographed after campaign over the last month and that has led a contributed to a momentum and enthusiasm and the raking in of thousands, millions of dollars. but this is a moment for the two vice president kamala harris and tim waltz to answer questions candidly to have those unscripted moments for her to make her case why she is the credentials to take office and to also draw a stark contrast with former president donald trump and create distinctions, or at least explained distinctions if she has any with president joe

biden. and notably, of course, she's doing that all being the crucial battleground state of georgia, a state that president biden won by less than 12,000 votes in 2020. and where she is, is notable, right? she is in south georgia. these are rural counties that typically lean republican, but the regressive strategy by this campaign is to try to peel off those republican can votes while also winning big in metro atlanta, combine the two and a senior campaign official tells me they see that pathway to victory and they're keenly aware that it's going to be a close race. polls showing over the last 24 hours that she has a slight edge over former president donald trump. but that is within the margin of error. so this stop was on this buster have given us a glimpse of what the campaign strategy is going to be here. now after the buster, the vice presidential nominee, tim walz, to be heading to north carolina, yet another state they're trying to stay bullish on while she comes here to the arena behind me to hold a rally, we're already seeing

many, many people line up this has been consistent with her rallies where thousands have attended. so this is going to be another moment for her to appeal to voters. of course, just ahead of that critical interview yeah, those folks behind you braving some, whether it appears priscilla alvarez. thank you so much for the update from savannah, brianna. >> today, the united states army issued a forceful rebuke of former president trump's campaign over an incident on monday at arlington national cemetery gary npr broke the story about a verbal and physical altercation after a cemetery official tried to stop trump's team from taking photos and video in section 60 we're recent us casualties are buried cnn pentagon correspondent oren liebermann is with us now on this story. what's the army saying? we're in brianna, this is a fairly remarkable statement coming from the army, not only because they hadn't waited until this point, but also because of what they're talking about here, a rebuke of a political campaign, and to force for president

donald trump. >> this is not somewhere the army often goes in the army also made it a point to stand up for their employee who was involved in this incident. now the statement itself doesn't mention trump or the campaign but it clearly references an august 26 ceremony and a subsequent visit. section 60, that's exactly what trump was doing there earlier this week. week, the statement goes on to say that arlington national cemetery made clear to the trump campaign federal laws governing these visits, army regulations, and dod policies here, which clearly prohibit political activities on cemetery grounds. according to this statement, as the employee attempted to ensure adherence to these rules was abruptly pushed if decide that's a key moment here, then the army goes on to say that once this incident started, the employee backed away from there. so as not to create a commotion or any kind of larger incident at arlington national cemetery. the statement goes on to say here and i'll read this bit. the incident was unfortunate and it's also unfortunate that the arlington national cemetery employee and her

professionalism has been unfairly attacked. arlington national cemetery's and national shrine to the auteur debt of the armed forces. and it's dedicated staff will continue to ensure public ceremonies are conducted with the dignity and respect the nation's fallen deserve. so again, a remarkable statement there, first for its rebuke of trump campaign and then noteworthy that the army he's standing up for its own employee self those on the trump campaign had suggested she was a despicable individual and might have mental health issues. so you'll see the army standing up for the professionalism and the work of the employee there, it is worth noting, the army considers this matter they're closed because that employee decided not to press charges stemming from that incident all right. >> oren liebermann, live for us from the pentagon. thank you for that report the trump campaign is also facing backlash that's today for a flurry of recent social media posts by the former president. he reposted a number of items calling for retribution against his political enemies, taking aim at the american justice system trump also shared an

image of both kamala harris and hillary clinton insinuating a sex act impacted their careers. and he also promoted qanon can conspiracy theories. jesselyn cook joins us now. she is the author of the new book, the quiet damage, qanon, and the destruction of the american family. just lynn, obviously, some pretty terrible posts here. i do want to talk to you about this qanon suppose because you have looked so deeply at the impact of these conspiracy theories on people. what is the effect of trump re-posting qanon content? >> i think a lot of people have been kind of mildly hopeful that they're qanon believing loved ones have started to drift away from the movement. q. this shadowy figure out the center has been dormant for quite some time. but days like yesterday when donald trump is explicitly posting qanon slogans they really reverse any progress that has been made. so many families have been destroyed by this phenomenon. and believers who may have a little bit of doubt in their

minds that goes away when the former president and possible future president of the united states is posting qanon propaganda. and so i think we're not only going to see people starting to draw back toward the movement, but there's now more faced for new people to wander into that territory. >> and in your book, you tell the story of five families who are there torn apart. your title says it by these conspiracy theories, people that you've talked to, they cut across all kinds of different lines that i think maybe people might not realize race, class, even the political spectrum. there's even a character in your book who got into qanon when he was 7-years-old? how are you seeing these conspiracy theories take hold this election cycle i think there's an assumption that conspiracy theories, especially at the qanon level, only appeal to people who are stupid ignorant, crazy. >> we hear a lot of worst terms than that but really conspiracy theories meet different needs for different people. and especially ahead of an election cycle, we're seeing a lot of

very powerful people, influencers elected leaders weaponizing conspiracy theories for their own game, whether for profit or politics reasons and it's really having a devastating, devastating effect on so many families across the country who are having these partisan divides deepen and deepen and having people who they love and respect and notably kind and decent and good. drifting into these rabbit holes that makes so little sense to them. >> what did you find makes people particularly vulnerable to qanon and conspiracy theories in my reporting, i profile five families in the book, but i spent three years talking to hundreds of families and i really wanted to understand how to ordinary people end up in a space like q anon. >> because again and again, we're seeing that happen. it's not just the stereotypical crazy guy who falls into q1 on their a lot of even in my book, we have a very educated lawyer who gets into qanon and i think what unites all of these believers is not a low iq per say, it's that

there's something unfulfilled in their life. they either feel like they're lacking a sense of belonging, a sense of community, a sense of purpose, being in qanon, being a digital soldier as they like to call themselves that makes people feel good. it gives a lot of people a reason to get up and get out of bed every day and feel like they're fighting this big war that donald trump is waging against the so-called deep state. and so to understand what draws people in, we need to look at what was their life like before qanon, were they feeling fulfilled? did they have these unmet needs that made something like q anon really alluring to them just one cook. >> thank you so much for the great expertise as you said, you've spoken to hundreds of people, you know, a lot about what is drawing people to this. we appreciate that thanks for having me boris if you've been paying attention to the news cycle, you know, it has been a wild few weeks in this election and new fox news polls shed some light on how voters are reacting to it. >> we're joined now by cnn's tom foreman and tom the most

interesting part of these polls, war the sunbelt numbers and sunbelt states take us to those battlegrounds that really could make a big difference in all of this. take a look at this. there's no clear leader here. arizona, georgia, nevada, north carolina. and yet in three of the four, even with no clear leader, the numbers are tilted in favor of kamala harris. if you look at a little more specifically like this plus one plus two plus two plus one only in north carolina for donald trump's again, in the margin for error this doesn't make a difference mathematically, but you don't want to be the campaign on the side, the downside of all this? >> yes, it does support the harris team's view that north carolina lineup is up for grabs when it hasn't gone to a democrat and that her group is moving. his numbers have said very still for a long time, she's on the move one way or the other and the trump team has yeah. >> and what are the issues that voters here are most focused on is great. >> take a look at georgia, because this is interesting. if you look here on abortion, boy,

they're giving a huge advantage to harris over trump on this, on health care really sizable advantage. now, he gets an advantage here on the economy and on the israel-hamas war. and his biggest advantages on immigration down here. but again, to talk about that that movement. this is how high harris has risen on all of those compared to where joe biden was. so that makes a very big difference. and one more thing after really look at here what was the real message of the barack obama election? the donald trump election, the joe biden lecture, one way of looking at it as people wanted something to change and these voters are overwhelmingly except again in north carolina by one point, they're saying harris represents change. she could bring needed change. i want to point out this is beyond the margin. kind of error. so how much, how much weight do you put on that? i don't know, but it's a big deal right now. >> that is interesting when it comes to where these candidates are spending their time i imagine that the numbers we just saw may reflect the

roadmap. yeah, at least for the moment we know that harris is down there pounding away at georgia trying to get people out there, lit up, not just in atlanta but move it out into the countryside, try to get some support out there and at least weaken trump's support out there, which he believes can work and trump and vance there up a working weigh in michigan, and wisconsin and boston. >> this sort of very to do whatever they can to move the numbers here. all of these campaigns are going to have to be very, very, very busy over the next you know, 60, 70 days, whatever it is here. they've going to have a very, very busy because it's all about margins at this point and honestly trying to keep it a close race for both sides. neither one wants the other side to get some kind of breakout that gets them ahead. so we talked about a close race being a big deal. they may want a close race if the alternative is the other side getting ron yeah, absolutely. >> they will be visiting these blue wall states. i'm a sun belt states and tom foreman will be busy at the magic wall. i've spent a lot of time talking about a lot of numbers. >> appreciate your time. thank

you so much. still plenty more news to come on. news central including a source telling cnn that a top ukrainian pilot has been killed while flying a u.s. made f 16 fighter jet. this as ukrainian officials plan to show so the white house, a list of targets in russia, ones that ukraine says it needs to strike if it wants a fighting chance against moscow. plus a crucial hearing the idaho college murders bryan kohberger's attorneys are requesting a change of venue, saying the potential jury pool told them they would quote, burn the courthouse, death if he was acquitted. >> and a taylor swift terror plot, what we're learning about, how american intelligence helped stopped, well, could have been a brutal attack stay with us this fall. >> comedy is coming to cnn. what could go wrong? i got news. for you. for me or saturday, september 14th at

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fish also helped his country convinced the us to provide those f-16s. >> it took more than a year to do that now, these top ukrainian officials will make another big request of the united states. but asked to lift the restrictions on long-range weapons strikes on russian territory they'll present a list of targets inside russia to the defense secretary tomorrow, joining us now is cnn military analyst, retired major general james spider marks sir, thanks so much for being with us. i first want to get your reaction to this news that moon fish was killed fighting while flying. a us made jet boris, it's a real tragedy that ukraine would lose one of its very best and brightest it's also a condition of warfare, right? >> he knew exactly what he was doing any probably it's without doubt that he loved what he was doing. but i think it's important that we realize that there will be more engagements like this. there will be more

casualties like this. the f 16 is a combat enabler, which really can help redefine the conditions of the fight by itself. it's great when it's used in concert with all the other enablers. it can really be an operational, provide an operational impact that can turn the tide of this thing. if ukraine is able to link up all these different very successful operations that they've had so it clearly is, is a tragedy, but also bear in mind that flying an f 16 and fighting and f 16, any type of fighter aircraft are entirely different tasks. those, those fighter aircraft provide air to air capabilities, air-to-ground capabilities deep-strike capabilities they are synchronized with other forms of combat. so it's an incredibly sophisticated, powerful, enabler and it takes a lot of training to bring them up to speed. >> how do you read the fact

that this happened while responding to another barrage of attacks by russia against ukraine. some of the most intense that we've seen this entire war. i'm wondering how long you think ukraine can keep defending against that kind of line of attack really is how long can russia continued? >> provide this type of capability against ukraine when you know, and we realized that the russian capacity to execute these kinds of operations is dwindling. look, they have the law of large numbers going for them. they continue to put ill-trained, inappropriately trained young men into the fight with the certainty that they're probably going to be engaged in combat. they're gonna lose their lives and those numbers first continue to tick up russia is not going to go anywhere. they're going to continue to expand these

resources. ukraine's advantage is that they have really been able to demonstrate an incredible capacity to out, think out, maneuver out, deploy these capabilities against the russians. but you have to be able to tie all these together if you're really going to change the dynamics. so ukraine support that it gets from the west is essential. and what's also essential that we're going to talk about here is the fact that the ukrainians have to be able to take the gloves off and be able to bring the fight into russia against military targets which is what they're asking to do take the gloves off, let us strike deep. let's try to connect all these grounds successes with deep strikes that deny the russians the capability to bring forces into the battle that are ready to fight. let's attrit them before they get there. that's the message of the ukrainians are asking the united states to

support. >> we'll see what comes of that meeting with defense secretary lloyd austin and his ukrainian counterpart tomorrow. before we go a general, i wanted to get your reaction to u.s. army rebuking the trump campaign for this story over his visit on monday with the families of those killed at abbey gate and his controversy. that's been stirred over how his campaign approached an official on the grounds of arlington national cemetery the thing about arlington is it is hallowed ground. it's for lack of a better description i described early tennis is a chapel as a place of holiness and honor and you don't want to use that for any personal public game that's the issue. and so the rules are very clear and arlington really describes them, makes them crystal clear

in advance of any visit to arlington. it is understood that this is an opportunity for personal grieving for personal embrace, for an opportunity to gather together and recognize these incredible sacrifices that these young men and women have made so to go forward into use that as a i'm assuming it was a campaign effort. that's what it's been described as, that has a definition to it. i can't get into that. >> but arlington owns that place america owns it and arlington insurers that america can honor those that are there. >> so there are rules that we follow. i go to arlington, i've buried too many of my fellow soldiers and friends i i am silenced. i follow the orders. i know exactly what the rules are, and i am in step with those rules everybody needs to do that irrespective of who you are major general james spider marks. we appreciate the

perspective, sir. thanks for being with us thank you, boris. of course. >> still ahead. attorneys for the suspect in the university of idaho murders want his trip trial moved after they say a survey showed people in that town, quote, would probably find him and kill him if he was acquitted. we have the latest developments in a coup crucial hearing when we come back tonight, the most anticipated interview of this election, kamala harris and tim walz sit down with dana bash for the first interview. harris and walz, a cnn exclusive tonight at nine the ics vapor stick, provide soothing non-medication vix vapors easy to apply for the whole family. v6 webo stake and try new webo shower max for steamy vix vapors in fifth grade, i lost my front teeth i was devastated after dentures

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murdering four university of idaho students. defense lawyers are arguing that a survey taken where the killings happen found that people there are two bias. they say, including one respondents saying that people would burn courthouse down. if bryan kohberger were acquitted, his lawyers want to move this trial to boise, which is of course, the state capitol, arguing that the area where it's currently set to take place cannot provide an impartial jury for a fair trial. cnn's jean casarez has been following this case from the beginning. jean, tell us more about this survey and how prosecutors are responding to it. >> well, you're right. the big question ms cheney is, where can bryan kohberger in the state of idaho, get a fair and impartial jury, a fair trial. well, james murphy just took the stand, just got off the stand. he's the president of true scope, which is media monitoring and media analysis. and he looked at the frequency of pretrial publicity. what for the population in late talk county which is moscow, there's a huge amount of pretrial publicity, but also

its neck to neck with the state's capital boise, which is exactly where the defense wants this trial to take place. moscow, idaho college community known for the university of idaho and small city life. but on november 13, 2022, that all changed when four university students were fatally stabbed while asleep at their off-campus apartment the case got international attention. but the residents of moscow, this was their community. and now they want to justice. >> hope to god that justice comes for bryan kohberger was arrested and charged with the murders in december 2022 the state is seeking death now with his trial set for june 2025, the defense does not want this case to be tried in moscow. they say their client can't get a fair trial there. some of your reporting from television to social media, story after story, and local newspapers and

news stations i'm saying there is pervasive media coverage in this case it's prejudicial media coverage. >> the prosecution in a january hearing said it believes this is moscow's case. they live this nightmare. >> the case should be held out here is lay talk county case. >> the court allowed a defense trial sulton to conduct a telephone survey of residents of the county to see if there was bias against kohberger their results lay talk. county makes up only 2.75% of idaho's population, but has received 36% of the media coverage of this case 98% of the community knows about the case. 70% believe he is guilty 51% have a fixed opinion. some responses from the survey included that if kohberger wasn't convicted, they burn the courthouse down. outrage would be a mile description they would probably

find and kill him. there would likely be a riot and he wouldn't last long outside because someone would do that good old boy, justice. boise on the other hand, they say has more than ten times as many jurors, a larger courthouse and airport for witnesses to fly in and out of the prosecution countered by calling the defense hypothesis this is flawed a random survey of 400 residents was far from the entire jury pool, lay talk counties, jury eligible population could easily accommodate a panel of hundreds or even thousands of individuals been summoned for jury duty we at least lay talk county that people wake top county, be attempt to seat a jury here. first. >> and not just rely on there's been a lot of publicity. >> how long hopeless everywhere now, if the judge would determine this trial will take place in boise, that means the judge, the witnesses, the counsel on both sides, staff. >> they all have to go to boise 300 miles away, stay in hotels

for three months that will cost the county a lot of money, but yet constitutionally everyone deserves a fair and impartial trial and this is a death penalty case which takes it to a completely different level. >> all right. jean, thank you for that update. we appreciate it. still ahead. peach state pressure, vice president harris spending and other day in georgia trying to woo voters. there paula state's democratic party chair hopes to keep the momentum going next everything you want is right i can the disney plus hulu max bundle your best defense against erosion and cavities is strong enamel. >> nothing beats it. i recommend pro enamel active shields because it actively shields the enamel to defend against erosion and cavities. i

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georgia where they will sit down with cnn's dana bash for exclusive high-stakes interview set to air tonight at nine eastern. it's a major test for them. it is their first joint interview since becoming the democratic nominees and a chance to show americans where they stand on critical issues, joining us now is democratic congresswoman nikema williams of georgia. she is the state's democratic party chair as well. congresswoman. thank you for being with us first. i do want to talk to you about georgia, as i mentioned, extremely tight race this is according to the latest fox poll, what does harris need to do to win enough georgians over in your opinion well, brianna, we are doing exactly what we have to do, but what we know is she might be up in that fox poll today, but polls will go up and down and vice president harris is still the underdog dogs, so we cannot take anything for chance. >> that is exactly why you saw her yesterday and sandfly, georgia and hinesville, georgia today in savannah, georgia because we understand that in a

battleground state every vote is critical and we can't not cede any territory. were going all over the state having, the conversations with voters about a future for this country that is about opportunity, unity, and freedom. that is something very different from the stark contrast and donald trump and his republican party's campaign of continued division and hate in this country. vice president harris is coming directly to georgians there's a voters in battleground georgia, because we understand that the path to the white house runs right through the peach state is her path to victory in georgia. this year, different than it joe biden in 2020? >> so what we're thing and the aftermath of vice president harris becoming our democratic nominee within a third, and volunteers that helps us get our message out. we had over 1,000 new volunteers and just 24 hours after vp harris

announced her campaign for president of 320 percent increase in donations just at the democratic party of georgia. and the first 24 hours. so that is huge and it allows us to reach more voters that allows us to go into these places where we have to shave off the margins in these red areas of our state. but also maximize turnout in the deep blue areas like the district that i represent in atlanta, georgia. so we understand what's at stake here and we have to continue to do the work. vice president here is this taking that spirit of being a joyful warrior. and we have to add the warrior part because she is fighting for every single vote, because she will be a president for all americans, not democrats, not republicans. but all americans. and that is also a stark contrast from donald trump and his project 2025, who continues to look to divide us and only represent those people who are supportive of his. >> the polling shows that voters in georgia, they trust trump more on top issues like the economy and immigration by

quite a wide margin. she is doing better than joe biden was doing on these issues. what does harris need to say tonight to win on those particular issues? >> so, what i also know is that housing and the cough than they economy are big issues right here in georgia. and vice president harris is the plan to bring down the cost of housing so that more people have access to the american dream, more people can understand her plan of not just getting bad but getting ahead in this country. and that's exactly what you'll hear her layout as she has already like put out in her economic agenda, but she'll continue to do that for the next 68 days on the campaign trail, we have work to do, brianna, but we're willing to do it because we understand what that state and what's at stake is the future in this country? that people can look forward to, not a fear of going back to the dark days of the past that donald trump and his republican party want to take

us back to. we are committed to doing this work. we've always been counted out and battleground georgia, but we know that we can win when we show up to vote and we will bring our message of freedom and opportunity trinity directly to the voters. and that's what we'll be doing over the next 68 days all right. >> congresswoman nikema williams. thank you so much for being with us thank you, brianna and still ahead, new details in the plan, terror attack at a taylor swift shows in vienna, the cia says the suspects intended to kill tens thousands of people tonight the most anticipated interview of this election kamala harris and tim walz sit down with dana bash for the first interview. harris and walz, a cnn exclusive tonight at nine in fifth grade, i lost my front teeth i was devastated after dentures and fixer them. i can

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hospital. the faa says it is investigating and country singer and american idol alum scott mccreary making headlines after he stopped his own concert to call out someone in the crowd once this right here, right here a lady you absolutely not, who just sit stipulate mccreary was performing at the colorado state fair when he said he saw the incident then called for security to get involved in a statement to kk tv, the county fair said they provided crowd control and the incident is still under investigation. brianna in today's home front, the important fight to prevent military suicides among active duty soldiers and veterans like the american legion says it just held what is believed to be the largest single training session on suicide prevention. >> officials say 5,000 people received instructions now,

there is a new war raging unfortunately, it is being fought in the hearts and minds of those who served veteran suicide as the most important issue facing veterans today. >> and too many are battling it alone joining us now is columbia university professor of psychiatry, dr. kelly posner, gerston harbor. >> she is the founder and director of the columbia university lighthouse projects which led this training. a doctor tell us about this. these were your colleagues who put this on. tell us how this went. training 5,000 people in one day it was inspiring and of mythical proportions and really important, you because let, let me just set, set the stage for a second. >> you know, it's not only veterans, we know that suicide takes more firemen than fire more lives than car are accidents, more soldiers than combat, and 135 people are

affected by every death. and those effects linger across generations because of the silence that follows. and this training was really representative of breaking the silence and not being silent anymore. we know but this, is our preventable cause of death. and what do we need to do we need to find the people suffering in silence, and we need to break down those myths. you know what one of the biggest lethal myths have been that this has the doctor's job. it's actually not. most people. most veterans don't actually even get to the doctor. we know that we have to be upstream and get them as early as possible. and you know what this also represented, this remarkable work with the american legion. the importance of family and spouses and being the front line of defense that we know that 80% of people who end their lives communities, veterans, whoever it may be, do

it in their homes, right? we know how to save lives, but we have to get as upstream as possible. and i, and you know what we know that works guess, guess what, guess what happened with the marines the marines put this in all hands, legal assistance, financial aid counselors chaplains, et cetera. do you know what helped them reduce suicide? 22% and that's what the american league yes. >> it's amazing, doctor and i've talked to spouses who's service members died by suicide and so often they did not see it coming. and then in retrospect, they looked and wish that they had known more ahead of time and that's really what you're trying and to do here. it's so important in the latest data there were 492 service members who died by suicide in 2022. how does that compare to the general? relation and what are the unique challenges in addressing this with veterans compared to

the general population yeah. >> so the unique challenges with veterans are that we have to work even harder to find them where they suffer for in silence, right? >> we have to find veterans where they work live thrive recreate, and they have more difficulty with isolation and feeling disconnected from society. so that's again the good news. you know, what we're doing, we're taking this to the bartenders, to the slot machines we know that we can save lives on one of the other myths. brianna is that well, if i ask, it's going to be harmful to somebody it's actually not the case when people are suffering, they want help, they want to be asked and there's nothing more important than this movement that's beginning, beginning to build we can get these particular questions. the columbia

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