that. it is really hard to those close friends. we are comparatively small air force and we know each other by names and of course we know well all our all our fallen friends top of the hour. >> i'm rahel solomon with john berman, sara and kate are out today breaking overnight. the first major title oh, there's an interview with kamala harris is in moments from now, donald trump's running mate, j.d. vance, will join us to give us his reaction. >> vice president kamala harris sat down with cnn's dana bash much to answer questions about her run president biden and her rival donald trump. >> the inflation reduction act. what we have done to invest by my count, if you are elected, what would you do on day one in the white house? well, there are a number of things i will

tell you first and foremost. one of my highest priorities is to do what we can to support and strengthen the middle class when i look at the aspirations, the goals, the ambitions of the american people, i think that people are ready for a new way forward in a way that generations of americans have been fueled by hope and by optimism i think sadly, in the last decade we have had in the former president, someone who is really been pushing an agenda and in an environment that is about diminishing the character and the strength of who we are as americans really dividing our nation and i think people are ready to turn the page on that. >> you have been vice president for three-and-a-half years the steps that you're talking about now why haven't you done them

already well, first of all, we had to recover as an economy and we have done that. >> i'm very proud of the work that we have done that has brought inflation down to less than 3%. the work that we have done to cap the cost of insulin at $35 a month for seniors. donald trump said he was going to do a number of things, including allowing medicare to negotiate drug prices never happened. we did it. >> you had a lot of republican speakers at the convention. will you appoint a republican to your cabinet? >> yes. i would anyone know what no one in particular mind i got to. we've got 68 days to go at this election, so i'm not putting the cart before the horse, but i would i think i think it's really important. i i have spent my career inviting diversity of opinion. i think it's important to have people at the table and when some of the most important decisions are being made that have different views, different experiences and i think it would be to the benefit of the american public to have a

member of my cabinet who was a republican. >> i want to ask you about your opponent, donald trump i was a little bit surprised. people might be surprised to hear that you have never interacted with him, met him face-to-face? that's going to change soon. but what i want to ask you about is what he said last month, he suggested that you happened to turn black recently for political purposes. questioning a core part of your identity and his same old tired playbook next question, please that's it. i have served with president biden for almost four years now and i'll tell you it's one of the greatest honors of my career truly he cares so deeply about the american people. he is so smart and loyal to the american people. and i have spent hours

upon hours with him being in the oval office or the situation room he has the intelligence, the commitment, and the judgment and disposition that i think the american people rightly deserve in their president by contrast, the former president has none of that and so one, i, i am so proud to have served as vice president to joe biden and to i'm so proud to be running with tim walz for president united states, and to bring america what i believe the american people deserve, which is a new way forward and turn the page on the last decade of what i believe has been contrary to where the spirit of our country really lies. >> so governor walz was asked about his experience with fertility treatments in the cnn interview, reproductive rights will be central to the harris

campaign's new bus tour. it kicks off next week, cnn's eva mckend joins us with the details. what are you learning on this eva? >> well, john, the fight for reproductive justice has always been a core focus of the campaign. the harris-walz ticket, they're running under this mantra of freedom. and one of those pillars is reproductive freedom, or specifically the freedom to make decisions about your own body is how they describe it on the campaign trail. but the, former president now weighing in here, raising ivf is an acknowledgment that republicans feel vulnerable in this space. and it's an issue democrats very much want to run on. governor walz though, did have discrepancy in how he described a fertility treatment that his family used. let's take a listen to how he explained this to our colleague, dana bash the one thing i'll tell you is i wished in this country wouldn't have to do this. >> i spoke about our infertility issues because it's health and families know

this and i spoke about the treatments that were available to us that had those beautiful children there that's quite a contrast. and folks that are trying to take those rights away from us, i think most americans get it if you've been through that, i don't think they're cutting hairs on ivf or iuie. i think they're cutting harris on has an abortion ban and the ability to be able to denied families the chance to have a beautiful child so john, i think that it's telling that they're beginning this reproductive justice bus tour in florida democrats, as you know, have suffered heartbreak in florida cycle after cycle, but it's clear that they feel confident to compete on this issue in that stated starts on tuesday in palm beach with senator amy klobuchar and harris campaign manager julie chavez rodriguez, among others, the bus tour is going to make at least 50 stops in key battleground states. >> and it also seems like it's going to serve as a recruitment tool for them to mobilize volunteers all right. >> eva mckend for us. eva,

thank you very much. rahel. >> alright, john, let's break this down further with errol louis, cnn political commentator, spectrum news political anchor and host of the big deal with errol louis. they're already got a lot of titles there. >> have you? it is the morning after. how do you think dems are feeling about her performance last night? >> they should be feeling good about it, in part because there were no mistakes and that's of course the first threshold you want to cross. but then also she's really kind of indicating how she's going to walk a very narrow path between being an incumbent and part of an administration that has a record that can in fact be attacked so. sort of being a candidate of change. this is a change election. there's no getting around it either. we changed parties by giving controls with the republicans or we have a different kind of a change, a generational change. and she's trying to make the case that even as an incumbent member of the current administration she represents changed and i think she did that. >> she also tried to make the case that while some of her policies may have changed her values, habit, listen i think

they the most important and most significant aspect of my policy perspective and decisions is my values from not changed you mentioned the green new deal i have always believed and i've worked on it that the climate crisis is real that it is an urgent matter to which we should apply metrics that include holding ourselves two deadlines around time we did that with the inflation reduction act. >> we have set goals for the united states of america. and by extension, the globe around when we should meet certain standards for reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. as an example, that value has not changed my value around what we need to do to secure our border. that value has not changed errol, as you know, i mean, this is one of the issues that the gop loves to sort of attack her on. >> do you think that response was enough to address the concerns that some may have about where her policies stand.

>> well, people who want to attack are going to attacker. i think you could take four months in 2019, which he was a candidate for president and say, why did you change from that? or you could look at the four years that she's been in, basically part of the administration, that 80 million people voted for her to do certain things and she was part of an administration that began to do those things going back to the moments in 2019, even the primary voters weren't interested in that. and so she adjusted it's interesting if you want to ask her to sort of trace her evolution from where she was to where she is now. but i think it's much more relevant what she actually, you know, the votes that she cast when she was vice president, the tie-breaking votes of the policies that she signed onto the ribbons that she'd cut for ev manufacturing plants and other kind of tax cuts. i mean, i think we have a pretty good sense of where she stands. it what can she didn't choose to weigh in on is trump's comments a few weeks ago at nabj, more than but a month ago now, at the national association of black journalists convention, that

she had suddenly turn black all of a sudden and dana asked her, we played the clip a little bit earlier and she said something to the effect, old, same old, same old playbook next question, moving right along, thoughts about that response well, look, i think is right on brand because once she says we have to turn the corner on the left as decade, what she's really talking about, the nine years of the age of trump, and what she's talking about doing is both dismissing and moving beyond the vulgarity, the obscenity, the childish nicknames, the unpresidential conduct she's just not going to engage it. >> and so i think she's modeling the behavior that she's hoping the voters will follow and say, look let's just put that behind us. that's not what this country is about. >> you know, it's interesting one strategist told me a short time ago, this was an interview that she had to get it over with. you know, she she sort of did what she needed to do. she understood the assignment is how it was described to me, looking ahead, how much more important now and does the debate become? and also does she do more interviews now that she has gotten this one under her belt, the debate is hugely important. there was a recent

poll that suggested that something like 90% of the poll respondents said that they're going to be watching the debate. everybody is going to be watching the debate it will be very, very big but beyond that, i think there's a really interesting set of questions. there's a lot of proposals that are out there. there's what's already on the website because the biden-harris website is still up in all of the issues and promises are still there. and then you have to sort of ask her, are you going to keep those promises? are you going in a different direction? there's a big 92 page party platform and that was just approved at the democratic national convention and includes really interesting stuff like an infrastructure bank and high-speed rail. well, which of those are going to be important to you? those are really important questions, not just from the media, not just even from the voting public, but from within the of the various lot of interest groups in the united states, people want to know what she's planning to do? and they want to try and influence her to go ahead and do those things. universal school lunches or whatever it's going to be and so we all have an interest in finding out what she's she's thinking and where she might want to go any missed opportunities that you watched

last night as a political observer thinking it's going to use this platform to address this, to say that any, any dropped balls, i wouldn't call it a drop ball, but as always, because we really are in the thick of it, we're coming down to the last few weeks. >> i would have expected her to say things that were specifically directed at pencil sylvania or wisconsin or arizona or are some of the other battleground states? i didn't really hear that too clearly. i also didn't don't think she took that much about reproductive rights. obviously, she's saving that for the current news cycle. so she's gonna do this bus tour, but i was expecting to hear a little bit more about yeah, we, did have that news this morning about the bus tour. so perhaps that was part of the strategy errol louis, always good to see you. thank you. thanks, john. >> all right. in just a couple of minutes, republican vice presidential candidate, j.d vance joins us live. what he has to say about this exclusive interview with vice president harris and governor walz, the trump legal team launching a new push to delay his sentencing past election day. and police say they cracked cold 40-year-old murder case. was them help from some

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trump is trying to create another pathway to overturn that felony conviction in the new york hush, money case. >> and he's also looking to indefinitely delay sentencing in that case. he's asking the federal court to take the case away from the state level. trial court is also asking the federal court to confirm that how that issue is being litigated. he can't be sentenced. ultimately tried to push that sentencing beyond the 2024 election. and to date, tbd, i want to read a little bit of this because donald trump is arguing that this case should be moved to federal court because the prosecutors in this case presented evidence that falls under official acts that he committed that are otthe supreme court's new immunity ruling. he argues, quote, the impending election cannot be redone. the currently unaddressed harm to the presidency resulting from this improper prosecution. what virtually impact the operations of the federal government for generations, it goes on to argue, sentencing is currently scheduled to occur on september 18, 2024, which could result in president trump's immediate unconstitutional incarceration

and prevent him from continuing his groundbreaking campaign. you may remember that the state-level court judge. judge marshawn, who was the trial court judge in this case, is already weighing a separate request from trump's legal team to both overturn the conviction in that case. there's 34 felony counts and to delays anything until after the 20 24 election. prosecutors have deferred that decision to judge marshawn. they didn't oppose it. he was scheduled to weigh in on that on september 18, the same day as sentencing, but now trump opening this second avenue to try to delay sentencing in that new york hush money case yes, it sounds like things are really picking up. again. i've talked to us a little bit about jack smith's office and trump's lawyers filing a joint status report today in trump's federal election subversion case. this is as prosecutors are apparently trying to get more methodical with the case that's according to cnn sources what is the strategy here there has been interesting because for months and months and months, we saw jack smith really working as quickly as he possibly could to try to bring this case to trial. >> but ever since that supreme court ruling on presidential immunity, that pace has really slowed down according to our sources, we saw that in the way

that his team spent eight weeks after the supreme court ruling on presidential immunity he going through the indictment line by line and trying to pare down and cut out the parts that maybe did not apply. and we're protected under that immunity ruling. and now we're hearing that he's not going to move quickly to put on what some people had proposed as a mini trial, right. to potentially put witnesses like former vice president mike pence and former chief of staff, mark meadows, on the stand to testify but it sort of tried to present that evidence before the 2024 election were told that he does not appear that any sort of a hurry to do that he may ultimately have to show his hand a little bit in what was called an evidentiary hearing as he tries to convince the judge that the remaining charges and the remaining conduct in that indictment do qualify as crimes. but as of now, jack smith is moving things slowly and it sort of acknowledging that there will not be a trial in this case before the 2024 election. but he wants to preserve that evidence and preserve that case, keep it intact in case there could be a trial at some point in the future. whatever that might be. zach cohen live for us in washington. zach,

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campaign then put out a statement that said, trump has not yet said how he will vote on the ballot initiative in florida. with me now is former president trump's running mate, republican vice presidential nominee senator j.d. vance center. great to have you with us. you can help us clear you're this up. how can you vote for more than six weeks without voting for the amendment well, i think all the president is saying, and of course he's going to make his own announcement on how he's going to vote on the floor. >> bill is that he thinks that there should be more than six weeks and he's been very consistent in that. he says he doesn't like just six weeks you see obviously doesn't like late term abortion. i think like a lot of americans, the president is sort of somewhere else on this issue and he's also said that he wants abortion policy to be made by the states themselves individually and not by the national government. i think that's the most important thing here is that he's of course opining on this as a florida resident, but when it comes to national i will see john president trump has been extremely consistent that he

wants abortion policy to be made by the states, florida, california, ohio. they're going to have different approaches. that's okay. what he wants is to focus on eliminating inflation, bringing down the cost of groceries and housing, and closing down that southern border that kamala harris opened up. that's we're he's focused and that's where we'll continue to focus for the remainder of the campaign. >> he said he was going to vote for more than six weeks. so what's your understanding of how he will do that? >> well, i think what he's saying is that he doesn't like doing it. it just six weeks. obviously, he's going to make his own judgment on how he ultimately votes on the amendment. i think he's probably making an argument about how he feels about the issue he's not making some proclamation about how he's going to vote on the amendment. of course, they clarified that's the words that he wasn't making an explicit determination of how he's going to vote or announcing anything that look, the president, i'm sure we'll tell the american people how he's going to vote on it eventually but it wasn't making an announcement last night. >> so it was a grammar thing

sorry, could you repeat that, john? it was a grammar thing. it was a speech thing. it was, it was somehow some confusion in the words that he chose senator vance. >> can you hear makes for static key center vance, i may be super static. >> you may not be hearing the loud baritone of my voice here. center. can you hear me? alright center. of asked you a little bit, but it's sorry, could you could you can you just repeat those kitchen to wherever you go? >> all right. center. we're gonna take a quick break, figure it out, be right back, maybe cnn's harry we got a race for the ages here with nibbles, the hamster jumping out to a ten point advantage over jaws, the goldfish, what the heck is going on here? >> swim can be done, pill. >> it's a decent assessment

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president is simply saying he doesn't like six weeks. he obviously has said he doesn't like late-term abortion, and i think he will make an announcement on what he actually wants to do on the florida law in particular. but again, president trump's has been extremely lee consistent that he's going to make this decision as a citizen of florida, but he wants the national government that he intends to lead to be focused on national issues like inflation, the cost of housing, and the wide-open southern border. he wants states to make their own abortion policy and that will be his position for the remainder of the campaign and the remainder of his press doesn't. say he used that. >> he's been consistent, but of course, there was a period in donald trump's life where he was not anti-abortion then he became anti-abortion at one point suggesting that women should be punished if they have an abortion. now he's saying he's for more than six weeks, but it's not clear how he's going to vote in an amendment in his own state. so that's why i think people are seeking clarity. you can understand stand that well, john, the dobbs decision, what it fundamentally did is this goes back to democratic legislatures

and the people of course, who elect those legislatures, i think the president has said in a post roe, a post-dobbs world he wants voters to make these decisions. >> i think it's important to remember, of course, that kamala harris has come out for taxpayer funds center. but in this case, there was a there's she resigned. >> i just wanted to these votes. go ahead. >> well, of course it matters what his position is and i'm sure that he's going to say what his position ultimately is, john, but i do think it's important to say that between republicans and democrats, democrats have talked about trying to defund christian hospitals that don't do late term abortions. donald trump is trying to preserve some ability for the states to make these decisions. it is a very different approach to a highly contentious issue. i actually think what donald trump is trying to do is identify some common ground so that we can focus on the big national questions like, why can't americans afford groceries and housing? that's what we're going to focus on when we went in november the president, former president, announced yesterday that he wants

insurers or the government to pay for ivf. how well he's, been consistent again in this job that he wants he wants people to be able to afford to have families. and it's one of the reasons why we supported an expanded child tax credit that donald trump actually got done. he didn't just talk about it. he got it done. he supported a whole host of policies to make it easier for women to choose life to bring new life into the world. and this is just part and parcel of his broader view that if we want to have more families in this country, and i think all of us do, we have to empower young women and young families to make those choices and to have access to what they need. you know, this, john, i'm sure everybody who's watching his dealt with somebody, a friend or a family member who's struggling with infertility. it's a terrible, terrible problem that a lot of young families suffering in silence. i think all donald trump is saying is we want to help those families make it easier for them to bring new families into the world. >> how is he going to pay for

it is, is this an expansion of obamacare? is this a mandate? >> well, look, i think you have insurance companies that obviously are forced to cover a whole host of services. the president explicitly said that he wants insurers to cover additional fertility treatments. i think it's also important to point out that it's become way too expensive to raise a family in this country, john, thanks to kamala harris, is policies a lot of young families feel like they don't have the ability to buy a home, to raise a family, and they can't afford groceries if they have additional children, you can't separate the pro-life issue from the fact that it's become way too expensive to afford a family thanks to kamala harris, his policies. and that's the thing that donald trump most wants to change. >> how would this work if a state in you believe that states should have the right to make these decisions. if a state bans ivf. but donald trump says he wants to guarantee and or pay for ivf for everyone who wants it, how would that work if a state banned it?

>> well, john, i think it's such a ridiculous hypothetical because alabama, which is maybe the most conservative state and the entire union has actively protected fertility access and fertility treatments. there's no state in the union whether a rightwing state or left-wing state that i think is trying to ban act sister fertility treatments if alabama's protecting this stuff, i think it's safe to say the whole country is as well. so well but he wants to do you say to access who is to say there's not another court and another state that could decide that at ivf should the bad had happened in alabama for a minute, you also voted against a measure in the senate that would have guaranteed access to ivf around the country. so it's possible, right? >> well two things. john, first of all, yes, a court made that decision, alabama and like the next second, the alabama state legislature fix that problem and ensured women had access to these fertility treatments and all that i voted on john is for

religious liberty. i don't want christian hospitals or christian charities to be forced to do something that they don't want to do. we have multiple republican measures that support fertility treatments, support ivf, but don't require christian hospitals or other religious organizations to violate their conscience. i think all of us except that we live in a big country with diversity of opinions. we want women to have access to this needed medical treatment we also want to make sure that christian organizations can live their conscience. i don't think there's any tension. there are any conflict and fundamentally, it's democrats who are trying to force people to do things against their will. that is a way to inflame this topic instead of solving the problems for young families, is it fair to say the details on ivf haven't been worked out yet, how either the government shores would be forced to pay it or it well, well, john, of course, all details get worked out in the legislative process and we're not in the legislative process because we haven't won yet. but i think the president trump again just believes that we want women to have access to these fertility treatments. he wants to make it

more accessible, more affordable for more families. he's because we believe in the republican party and donald trump believes american families are the foundation of our country. they're the best thing about living in this great country. you have a lot of young women today who say they'd like to have more children. but for some reason health or financial, they're not able to. we want to try to solve that problem because we want young women and young families he's to have the family life that they want and that they choose vice president harris in her interview with cnn last night, that you would put a republican in the cabinet. do you and donald trump commit to putting a democrat in the cabinet if you're elected? >> yeah, of course, john, we've got democrats who are actively on the team. tulsi gabbard who ran against kamala harris in the 2020 democratic primary, rfk jr. these guys have all come on board the dimmock are the donald trump ticket. and why have they done that, john? because our party is the party of commons since we don't agree on everything, we may disagree about tax policy or

environmental policy, but we think we should have a closed border. we think american family should be able to afford housing and food, and we want calm and peace all over the world, not the world in constant conflict that kamala harris is delivered. so we've got a great big ticket with democrats, republicans, and independents and then it's on the donald trump team, and we're going to keep on running that way. and then we're going to govern that way when we when you cited robert kennedy jr. what role could you see him playing in a trump administration? what cabinet position? >> well, i don't want to commit bobby to anything, but look, he's a very, very smart guy. he's got a lot of interesting ideas about why do we have an obesity epidemic in our country? what is going on with our food system? how can we better ensure that americans are living healthy lives? so i hope that bobby play some role in answering some of the big questions and we'll see what that looks like. of course, he's joined the transition team where i serve as the honorary chair. we're going to work with everybody again, we don't have to agree on every issue. john. but what i love about president trump's campaign is that we're talking to everybody. we're going

everywhere and we're trying to persuade the american people that we can win with this big tent party and we can govern effectively would you trust robert kennedy on issues around vaccines? could you see him involved with health policy that way we'll look again, john, i don't agree with robert kennedy. >> i don't agree with bobby on everything. i've gotten know him, i think is a very smart guy. but again, while i might not agree with them on everything about vaccines, i do agree with him that something is clear hughley messed up about our food system because we have a terrible obesity problem. and i certainly agree with him back in 2020 that we should not be masking toddlers and keeping young children out of schools. he was right about that while a lot of public health experts were wrong and this is my point, john, as you don't have to agree with everybody. but when you're willing to listen to big voices and your not trying to censor people, but you're trying to have a debate with people. i think it surfaces the best policy and allows us that allows the best ideas, to rise to the top so if vice president harris in the interview last night, said she'd like to see a culture shift, not based on,

you beating people down a politics where you beat people down, but a politics where you lift people up. >> how do you feel about that? how do you feel about the idea of lifting people up in politics look, i think it's a great idea, john, the problem is that kamala harris hasn't governed like that during her three-and-a-half years as vice president if she wants to tackle the affordability crisis, if she wants to lift people up and inspire this country, why hasn't she done it for the last three-and-a-half years? >> i think most americans think that we're on the wrong track. i think what donald trump has really believes is the way to lift people up is to open the country to all voices, to not try to censor people that you disagree with have a conversation with somebody rather than try to shut them up, we have to remember back in 2019 that kamala harris wanted to kick donald trump off of all social media. we believe in debating and having a conversation with our fellow americans, agree or disagree. that's how you lift this country up, not by shutting

people down, making life on a forum portable for their families. >> you are talking about donald trump's social media. would you describe his posts over the last 40 hours? is lifting people up, voting, re-posting. q anon statements, re-posting these massage and istic memes about vice president harris and hillary clinton. that's the kind of open discussion that you think think he's lifting people up john, i think if you look at donald trump's full campaign appearances and yeses, social media appearances. >> what you see is two things of guy with an agenda to lower prices and bring back american prosperity. and a political candidate who isn't stodgy, who likes to have some fun and likes to tell some jokes i'd much rather have a candidate who's willing to go off script, who's willing to give every interview and is willing to tell some jokes. i do think that's how you lift people up. a politics of boring scholes telling people they can't laugh. that is not lifting americans out. that's how the terrorist down. >> all right, fun and jokes last night after cnn released a small clip of the harris interview you on twitter posted

a clip from a miss teen usa beauty pageant from 2007 kaitlan upton and you wrote, i have gotten a hold of the full kamala harris, cnn interview now, this thing that surfaced around the internet for a few years she had, you know, she struggled answering a question back in this beauty pageant i'm not sure you're aware in 2015, kaitlan upton did an interview in new york magazine about all the social media attention this clip, god and she said, i definitely went through a period where i was very, very depressed but i never let anybody see that stuff except for people i could trust. i had some very dark moments where i thought about committing suicide so when you posted this last night, were you aware that the woman you are posting a picture of had contemplated committing suicide for the attention that it received no, certainly not john and my heart goes out to her and i hope that she's doing well. look, i've said a lot of things on camera. i've said a lot of stupid things on cameras. sometimes when you're in the public eye, you make

mistakes. and again, i think the best way to deal with it is to laugh at ourselves, laugh at this stuff, and try to have some fun and politics i put posted a meme from 20 years ago and i think the fact that we're talking about that instead of the fact that american families can't afford groceries or health care, young families can afford to buy a home to raise their families. and those are the real crisis that we should focus on. and there's nothing that says that we can't tell some jokes along the way while we to deal with a very serious business of bringing back our public policy, politics has gotten way too lame, john, way too boring. you can have some fun while making a good argument to the american people about how you're going to improve their lives. >> i just want to be clear, though. you said you didn't know. would you like to apologize? kaitlan up there for posting that last night given what you've now learned john, i'm not going to apologize for posting a joke, but i wish the best for kaitlan. >> i hope that she's doing well. and again, what i'd say is one bad moment shouldn't define anybody and the best way to deal with this stuff is to

laugh at ourselves. >> last night, vice president harris was asked about the middle east in this situation in israel. she said that she supports israel's right to defend itself, but she also talked about a two-state solution. there how do you feel about the future possibilities for a two-state solution well, first of all, john, i just step back here because, you know, camilla's interview, she said a bunch of things about what she would do. >> she is the sitting vice president of the united states if she wants to tackle the affordability crisis or close down the southern border she should be doing it now and i think it takes a lot of shame. shamelessness, i should say, to be able to stare at the american people's eyes and say, i'm going to fix your problems now, what i've already been in power for three-and-a-half years. and this israel issue, john is a great example of it. she says on the one hand, she wants to empower israel to defend itself while on the other hand, minimizing civilian casualties, her government has limited the supply of precision weapons to israel that would allow them to

cut down on civilian casualties and end this war is rapidly it's possible donald trump's view is very simple. we want peace in the world. we want israel to destroy hamas, and we want this war to be over with as soon as possible, because that's how you rebuild the middle eastern peace process. you don't do it by making it easier for israelis to kill civilians and harder to minimize civilian casualties, which is what kamala harris has been and doing. >> senator j.d. vance. we appreciate your time. we appreciate you sticking with through a width us through the technical issues, will talk to you again soon thanks, john cia all right. >> the latest numbers are out on one of the major issues of the election, inflation when you're the leader is disaster clean up and restoration. how do you make like it never even happened, happened happened all

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$19 kamala harris, yellow trump. >> the debate. everyone's been waiting for follow. cnn for complete coverage and exclusive pre and post-debate analysis. i cnn special event, the abc news presidential debate simulcast september 10 at nine on cnn and streaming on max. >> people who are watching. and then our world change tv on the edge premieres sunday, september 22, did nine on cnn we spoke to the republican vice presidential nominee, j.d. >> vance, just moments ago. he

was reacting to statements that both president donald trump made yesterday and to the kamala harris interview, which was right here on cnn with us now, republican strategist, rina shah and democratic strategist chuck rocha, or rina, let me just start with you here because senator vance, one of the things he was talking about last night was that kamala harris has not governed. how is she says she's going to govern he said she said three-and-a-half years to do this, she hasn't done it how is that as an argument in how did harris do in maybe stemming that argument? >> well, senator vance should know because he's now the vp pick the vp doesn't quite govern. you lend support to the principal who is the president, united states, and you don't directly have a chance to go make laws, to go execute policy. and the way in which a president does. i think it's quite rich of him too. >> do frame it this way that she has failed in some way. >> i didn't see it that way, john, i looked at that

interview last night and i had three r's for her and she had again, a job of reinstalling confidence reinforcing, trust, and retelling her story prior to vp and i think when we talk about the game basketball, when we talk about how athletes show up on the court she showed up on that court and made all the shots. xi came to make. did she make any three-pointers? i don't think so, but she got the job done of those three rs and to me, that's what i think he's a little bit afraid of because what's he going to step too with that? >> and chuck having listened to that j.d. vance interview, did he make any points for trump side of the thing? for trump side, i mean, did he help him in any way in that interview j.d. >> vance has already done the one thing he is supposed to not do and that is stay out of the news about anything negative that vice presidential pick is only got one job and that's not to be seen to be supportive. and did just stand over there and be nice but not be in the press everyday. so j.d. vance has already failed that but as a political professional who

runs campaigns every single day, if you watch this interview, it tells you what strategies they have in their polling that says will work because they keep repeating it. and so what they're trying to do is they want to tie the vice president to the president's record. they want to tie it to the economic downturn the more expensive prices which are now coming down. but that's their narrative. and the other thing that really struck me as somebody who's prepped, somebody like this to be on tv, who goes through polling every day is the way they're walking back. the choice issue donald trump owns the supreme court and the dobbs decision, and it is crushing them in the battleground. states that's why you see this absurdity pretty yesterday in florida with him saying six weeks is not enough. you see j. d. walking that back as a professional who does this every day. it tells me exactly what their numbers are saying and they know what's their achilles heel and they're trying to push back on it in any way that they can i want to actually talk about your basketball metaphor there. you said she made a bunch of

baskets, but no three-point shots. the thing about the game today is he need to hit the 3-2 win playing safe with the twos doesn't get you a victory in the nba. and i'm wondering if you can extend that metaphor to a campaign is safe good enough at this point, you know, the answers that kamala harris gave, you they were they were long, they sometimes we're meandering and they may be didn't address head-on some of the issues that some voters may have wanted to see john, i disagree. >> i think those answers were quite concise and quite good. she did the job that most of his political professionals know she has to do, which is eerie. tell what she thinks is most important for the public to know that was an interview aimed at moderate and independents last night that was not an interview for anyone else. it was not meant to get very detailed. she repeated herself over and over. could that was the job she had to do. she came to do one thing and that was essentially it re-instill the trust. and i can tell that because she said i am

who i am, and i'm not going to change from it. i've said it once and i'm not going to say it again. you can trust me to be he the first and that's why she brought her values. i love the phrase diversity of opinion. i thought that was a key phrase because that's what we need right now. donald trump and j.d. vance, do not court that. i made a couple of notes here listening descender vance, i found his response to her interview last night to be quite weak. and if i was advising him, which i'm not i would say it's bad of them to keep talking reproductive care and access. that's a losing issue for them and looking, women are not a monolith. we care about the economy too. and that's what i heard. kamala harris talked about last night. she's not in more like a republican to me in some ways, talking about tax credits for families, children, talking about tax credit for small businesses talking manufacturing, talking about having a clean driving energy policy that does not ban fracking, basically making us independent of foreign sources for oil. i loved all that because that was what i heard from the republican party right

before donald trump came in. and i thought it was brilliant in its execution, was it perfect absolutely not but it was not intended to be perfect. >> tuck. did she say enough to address voters in pennsylvania independents and moderates in pennsylvania because, you know, we've spent a lot of this week, right? frightfully talking about georgia, but you say that pennsylvania may actually be the most important state at this point? >> i think it is because you can't win the presidency without pennsylvania. i was the political director of the steelworkers union for 15 years and came from the rank and father my son lives in pittsburgh and he's a union steam federer with my two beautiful grand boy twins, the rocha boys this is middle america. these are folks who get their hands dirty every day. these are people who take a shower after they leave work. these are the ones you have to have to win this election. i ran bernie sanders presidential campaign and no, these workers right now, they want to be with kamala harris. they really like tim walz and they just won't back some common decency seeing

their government if you cared deeply in this election about an issue, guess what? you've already made up your mind. this is not a congressional race or a senate race. there's a lot of working class blue collar steel workers, auto workers, and building trades members in pennsylvania who just won't stability in their life, they lacked gas to be a little cheaper, which it is today, groceries pleased to be cheaper, which it is today, but they want to trust somebody that will get that done over the next four years. and i think this is going to be an ongoing conversation more than just one bite at the apple through an interview, i think as long as they keep making that and pivoting to helping people buy houses and bringing costs down there in the right place. >> well, on pennsylvania and fracking, she was asked about this position, schiff, she's had from 2019, which he's a candidate where she said you would ban fracking and then she said that when she was on the vice presidential debate stage in 2020, she actually came out for fracking, which isn't exactly we accuracy said that president biden said he would not ban fracking and she supported president biden there does she need to explain more about how she came to conclude

that fracking is not worth banning at this point, especially for a state like pennsylvania, rina i think she did enough and i would advise she doesn't do more than that because again, then you lose people in the weeds there. for me, it would enough for her to stay. what she said now, with it perfectly accurate no. but look at how donald trump talks every day. he thinks he says something and it's true. and i just like so many millions of other americans, i'm mentally exhausted of the lies, the misinformation, disinformation out of trump world every day that congressional republicans and other elected republicans that are actually good people and don't believe in line, have to defend what this party could have done, john, they could have dumped trump, isn't but they chose not to that's why they are where they are right now. and kamala harris, in order for to get through the door fully with independents and moderate ours, who i think are continuing to take a second look at her. she is just going to have to do more of these types of interviews like yesterday, and she's going to have to get more detailed one place in which she did so brilliantly yesterday,

illustrated really well exactly where she stands and what went wrong and how she'd get it right, wasn't talking about how donald trump killed the bipartisan immigration border bill. and i think if she's able to do that on other issues, then she gets people start talking. but whatever she did last night, republicans are going to slam her as too scripted, not presidential enough. i didn't feel that defender vance's arguments were enough to really put a thing think in her sale excuse me, her ship of her interview last night, i think overall, i give her an a minus all right. >> rina shah. chuck rocha. thank you both so much. rahel all right, john, thank you. and new inflation numbers just in this morning, a short time ago from the fed's preferred inflation gauge, that would be the personal consumption expenditures holding steady at 2.5% on an annual basis. let's bring in cnn's matt egan, who joins us now. matt, what could this mean for potential rate cuts? we heard jay powell will say last week, i believe it was the time as come what does this mean well, rahel rate cuts look like a slam dunk in september and this report does not change

this. >> this is the pce index two-and-a-half percent up year over year. this is slightly better-than-expected. some contexts, this is tied for the lowest rate since early 2021. and when we look look at the trend here, you can see that there's been massive improvement with this inflation gauge. and really all of them at 1.2 years ago, this was above 7%, so not quite back to the 2% goal yet, but getting there as this chart shows, moving in the right direction. now i do want to stress, no, this does not mean in a prices are falling across the economy. the rate of inflation is down, but that just means that prices are going up more gradually. of course, that is good news because the same time paychecks are going up as well. now, as far as what this means for interest rates, as you mentioned a week ago, jerome powell at that big speech in jackson hole, wyoming heat all but declared victory victory over inflation. and he said interest rate cuts are very likely to come wall street