and at least said it hast gaveled out for the day after working on a judicial nomination. on wednesday with voting on measures with lectured vehicles lecture vehiclesand cybersecurih live coverage of the senate when you return here on cspan2. the ceo o social media companies will tti wednesday on child sexual eloitation.■a mark zuckeer tiktok and linda of x along with the heads of discord and snap. watch the senate judiciary committee hearing live starting 10:00 a.m. on c-span three also sees bend our free mobile video app and online at c-span.org. ♪ c-span is your unfiltered view of government that we are funded by these and more including charter

communications. quirks of charter is proud to be recognized as one of the best internet providers and we are just getting started. building 100,000 miles of new infrastructure to reach those who need it most. charter communications support c-span as a public servi along with these other television providers giving it you a fronw seat to democracy. >> we are joined by celine at the national put a court reporter for the washingtonexam. also a columnist of the "new york post" to talk about aspects of 2024 think if your time this morning. for having me. >> you can explain this but in 2016 you traveled across the country because you wanted to know what was going on election. i want to ask you about that but factor in how things have changed and she made the initial travels? >> traveling across the country

has always been a way i approach how i cover american politics. whether it's a pde election or a midterm election. that is also significant in a lot of ways and a lot of people's and in 2016 i decided the best way to capture the most important stake in this election meeting pennsylvania, ohio at that time if you remember in 2008■&their votes to barack obat was very much a battleground states also wisconsin, michigan, indiana that was also estate that at one time given barack obama their votes. i went across the lincoln highway which was u.s. 30. and only take the back road because i think it understand nt

just visually what you see how places are coming back or how places were decaying. but also capture the sentiments of people. i came back andte basically this election is over i'm people just don't know it yet. i understood that donald trump was appealing to voters. in particular in counties where he should not have been doing well. counties that were traditional democratic counties but that doesn't mean he was forming a coalition just with democrats. but democrats or joining republicans including reluctant republicans who do not particularly care for his style but were not happy with the status quo there were not happy with hilary clinton. that felt they had been aprospes are being heard.

and that's how i understood it back then. fast-forward to 2020 it's important to add 202020 in this. people where they are in their neighborhoods. bowling alleys, coffee shops, or evereo congregate. what i learned then was we remember 2020 was the middle of covid. it was a very difficult time for people. while they had felt they had done better under trump they were very unhappy about this comportment. so 2020 cou way. that was my conclusion. i could see it going in either direction. in particular older americans

they were unhappy with trumps comportment. if you think about it a lot of older american senior citizens have lost friends, lost family members. they thought he had not handled this with the dignity and not seriousness but the dignity that those losses deserve. if you look at the exit from 2020 you saw indeed senior citizens have shifted away fro donald trump and he narrowly lost to joe biden. fast-forward to today, still doing the same thing. still on the i don't live in washington d.c. or new york. i live in western pennsylvania. alexa called the character of appalachia. a lot of these voters are the kinds of voters that will decide elections. that is what i try to focus on.

people who live in pennsylvaniak spending a lot of time in michigan is of the states to decide the election. what's working and the president said it was working against them. >> him. [laughter] i wrote a piece recently what happened everyone's talk about what happened at east palace in the ohio town where the train■l derailed. the lack off response are the perceived lack of response by

the biden administration. that's where my great grandparents are from. and so the federal response was there. however the visual of president biden showingsu up was not prest or even the visual transportation secretary people to judge. but donald trump was down in the ll this is about february 22 of 2023. he was down in the polls. a lot of republican voters were very unhappy or skeptical of him. because of what happened in that in themid turns and that past november. they felt as though he had supportedov candidates that were unable to winin in a general election. supported them in primaries. he was probably at his lowest

points. up to east palestinian and was walking around. just watching how people responded to him being therefor. and i forget how many truckloads of a bottled water he brought with him. i wroteowime if this guy is able to redeem himself, if he is able to beat be offsomewhat like a ron desani has had a remarkable win in november of 2022 it happened here it is because he, out eithr running, considering running or was president he showed up and that projection is important because when voters see visuals such as that they see themselves in that

as a great song back in the 80s billy joel sang called allentown. i wasn't just about allentown. i member people were i lived and where i grew up feeling that moment of watching their t dk and trump understood intuitively that was an important place to showan up. i think that was a turning point spread. >> with us until 845 but if you want to ask her questions about aspects of campaign 202 202-42027488000 for democrats 202-748-8001 for republicans and 202-748-8002 for independence. you guys text us 202748. what is your assessment now we passed iowa and new and we are looking ahead to south carolina? what is your perception of the former present become the presumptive nominee also factor into how it nikki haley factors into it.

>> i was not in new hampshire i was in iowa i had of the caucus there. and i think that nikki haley had in her fin days leading up to new hampshire had run a very, very good campaign. she was making a good and compelling arguments. but it certainly was not enough to get hurt narrowly close to president trump. we have seen this play out before it i know it seems like a million years ago. but john kasich did this in 2016. ted cruz did this in 2016. they played the long game. haley certainly has an argument to stay in there. at least until super tuesday. and i understand why she is

doing it. this is 2024. we know every day when we wake up there's some other crazy disaster that happens. she is sg in. she is going to get delegates. she is there in case something happens. but if things continue in the trajectory that they are going you look at the numbers trump has in every one of his states coming up it is very difficult to imagine her path forward after super tuesday. >> one of the cases she's made she's talked about age, she talked about competency. as far as themes do you think that's gained any traction is far as how we look at who may be the presumptive candidates for each party? x that is a very effective argument if you are a republican biden. against joe

there are plenty ofou see he struggles with names, where he is, in terms talking about anotr place. he certainly hasn't struggles given his age i believe he is 81. she has an effective argument in terms of competency she also has an effective argument. the date joe biden dropped in the polls was the end of august and 2021. that was when afghanistan happened. people believed that america should leave afghanistan and theybelieve how we left afghanin was incompetent. heas has never regained traction in the approvale polling. competency ads in there.

not going to east palestinian was considered i think that ignoring hawaii while it was burning and going to lake tahoe people do that as incompetent. and so on those two issues she has a compelling argument. with donald trump there are 100 different ways to say he is vulnerable. but i don't think talking about age or competency is probably the best argument to used to go against him. he has plenty of other problemss you can text the independent line if you are on with our guest off the washington examiner. go ahead, call her. >> caller: first of all i'm a true independent i left the democratic party over the obsession with doctor many years ago. but never vote for a republican today's republican party is a

socially acceptable fascist movement i'd also like to add note candidate is talking about the lives of corporate landlords which are responsible for 50-cent of home purchases in this country which is causing the housing crisis. it also causing first-time homeowners to be pretty much twiped out. i would also like to add that rump himself is not an intelligent individual but he has no platform to speak from. he has a grievance use supporting generally six people in my opinion committed treason and calling them hostages which they all work for him attacked capitol. many work chanting hang mike pence who was a vice president at the sign time. i find your guest rather partisan when she talks about ohio and hawaii and some of these other places when donald trump never went to jackson, mississippi with the water crisis or flint, michigan per she is very partisan does not seem to be a person cloaked in

reality if she thanks donald trump is legitimate presidentia candidate. i don't knowe anyone who's votig for donald trump. through it okay, thank us or we will let our guest respond for a quick. >> guest: what's as famous quote when t anyone who voted for nixon after he won largely? first of his point about localism that's a very important you talk about land ownership. locall issues, candidates should do a better job running on those issues because those are the things that affects people's ■daily lives. they feel as those those are the things that are ignored. those are impacting their daily lives. you cannot dispute ohio has changed. it wants was the battleground state in the country. and since then that does not

mean it won't change. however, right now and they're porting i'm i'm working on on a story about the race between sharon bwn since 2006 and has been an office since 1974 in some capacity in ■■ohio. it is really having aav struggle running against a republican who they don't even know who the candidate is going to be at becaus the prima i held. so that would be my answer to that. in terms of donald trump, people like who they like. and no matter what darts you throw at them sometimes when you throw those darts athe them they tend to like the person more and the same as with joe biden. people would say i can't believe

anybody would go for joe biden. people who voted for joe biden and they will come out and vote for him again presumably. stuart in florida at hsu's on the line for republican type. >> hello. i did vote for trump and 2016. i did not vote for him and 2020. i probably will not vote for him in 2024. when we had the pandemic i thought he was way over his head. he did not know what dhec he was doing. a lot of people were scared they did not know what was going on. i thought if we have another crisis like this you've got a presidents who to me was very ineffective. did get the vaccine going and everything else. but governors were bidding on ventilators of.

could not find gloves. we h■ad a fauci who is giving bd advice. now, i probably will not vote for him. ue florida thanks. >> guest: thank you. i have written about this a lot. in the past couple of these are part of his vulnerabilities into the point i made in the beginning these are the types of voters that trump p lost in they felt to her point they did not handle covid correctly. and he did not rise to the occasion and needo it. i did a series earlier this year in which i looked at three groups of voters. those who are biden they are not going to vote for anyone else. the next week i looked at right

or died trump voters than i looked at voters who wish they had needed to choose from. there is a striking amount of those of voters who juice do no. not just with politics but it is a reminder of the year of covid. and a year that arguably change everyone's life. you lost a job, he lost a friend, gossip family member you did not go outside for six months. putting that match up again is another reminder of how much 202020 impacted your life. >> florida independent line. >> hi, how are you? i just want to make a i grew up in new jersey, south jersey. anyone who knew donald trump in the 70s i am 45. my father was thought and construction. what donald trump is always

destroyed unions britt always destroyed small businesses. he was for that working class made under $100,000 a year you should not be voting for donald trump. if you know how to read go to the laws that were passed and tax cuts that donald trump and the republicans you are screwing yourself. you are screwing herself. he's nothing more than a continuation of his reality self. people that vote for trump that. and think he is for the working class, there's no jobs here anymore because the republican party have given to china it's the republicans for donald trump is no exception for that. going bankrupt.ying and ste dealing with working-class people. sue and okay thank you.

>> guest: the issue working-class is union labor, however you want to pull it together or look at it. the voters are often in the crosshairs of american politics. and to his point, his perception of trump's that he is for the management and not for the working class.ception of a bides among these voters is biden and a lot of ways is working towards a limited in their jobs. in a workforce justice executive order put out.th

i don't like trump but i don't like what biden is doing either. th■basically eliminating my job. but scott and the most is the working class voter. >> presidentg biden benefit frm the recent endorsement he got from thehe iw? i had a piece about this it has been since bill clinton that unions -- mike union workers and labor have moved away from the democrats move towards the republicans. working-class voters union households have shifted toward republicans. now they don't when the majority, the republicans don't.

hence unions are different city does not just labored units or social justice unions. but they are all lumped together when you are look at exit polls as being a labor household. but union leadership is ver fil. even that uaw president admitted his rank and file mark more than likely not despite the endorsement perk is on target one other segment of the voting population women in light of the recent verdicts the new hampshire republican member who e, meeting mr. trump won't t women voters who are swing voters theht bore women will not get either if they were to behe a close election, yes hs comets could sway talk about comments he's made about women in the past has been documented

a lot. as far as the former president's appeal to women those on the fence. >> it is complicated. [laughter] do september 2016. the case comes out where he says grab someone something. pretty much everyone wrote his obituary that moment was six week ahead of the election or seven weeks ahead of election day.y. people didn't think female voters are going to vote for him. that didn't happen, they did vote for him. 2020 they did not vote for him i do not know what happens in 2024. they're so upset because a, b, c may be. i don't tower at the polls say right now.

it is too early to determine what that impact is going to be. come back to me on the third week of october iba will let what i think is going to help with women voters they are not single issue voters. we have ait multitude of concern that range from caring for an elderly parent to having young children. all sorts of other things. we need to watch what happens. see how this election evolves. see what the most important is going to be with inflation. wars also on the table that changes voters and mines again. i think it is just too early to figure tha out yyúet. >> how is abortion policy factor into that? >> it depends how the republicans respond to it.

it's a touchyk issue. at an incredibly personal issue. and in a lot of peoples minds ps there is a percentage of people who are in one direction and another and then have the squishy middle. it's the argument that is made by the candidate individual candidates running for office in the senate and the house. it also in the republican the presidency. see what this is selena's use of the washington examiner. she served as a natnal political reporter for the publication of a columnist for the "new york post." john is in pennsylvania democrat line. >> you mentioned allentown and inyour segment

ewart name is very common up there. i was wondering ifou could explain to the public especially the working union members ronald reagan was a guy who destroyed the unions. i wasn't the democrats it was ronald reagan.estroyed the union. it was a republican president. i have two questions for you. biden have a chance in the lehigh valley and does bob casey have a chance making it as a senator in the lehigh valley. >> house homeland security committee has been meeting to mark up articles of impeachment against homeland security secretary mayorkas be the markup started this morng at