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access to fast reliable in that. that's why we are leading the way to take you to 10g. >> mediacom supports c-span as a public service along with these other television providers giving you a front-row seat to democracy. >> host: joining us to talk about the senate legislation on the j border, stef kight with actions who reports on immigration and related matterso thanks for joining us. >> guest: thanks having. >> host: wiser so much republican resistance right off the bat? >> guest: there's kind of two sites to why we've been seeing this. there's the politics and the policy of it. obviously former president trump has been very aggressively opposed to any border deal really, which goes with republicans and democrats. that political pressure is real. recent house republicans already especially come out very strongly against this deal. speaker johnson has been saying this bill would be dead on

arrival even for the bill text was dropped. he has kept with that kind of language and the enjoyment of the republican leadership in the house. but we have also started to see senate republicans also expressed concern about this bill and an unwillingness to fully get behind it. this is both because of former president trump and also the reality that many republicans in the senate maybe would be willing to vote for this package but if it's going to only die in the house, some of them are unwilling to be sticking their necks out just to see it dies later on. the policy of it they are really focus on this one part of the package, the emergency actions. this is if using people talk about the 5000 number, this is is what this is related to. what the bill would do is win average daily border crossings over the course of a week reach 5000 a day, the federal government would be forced to

they are saying shut down the border in between the legal ports of entry. this would force border officials to automatically turn back migrant who illegally cross the border without a chance of us either. right now doesn't matter how you cross a border, you have a right seek asylum and go through that process. that would end that. how republicans you this is the bill allows 5000 people a day to be let into the country. that term let in is where negotiators of the still have issues. it doesn't just let in all 5000. many of the 5000 that would be counted would still be turned back for other reasons. >> host: as far as what t we're seeing flow wise from the southern port of how good that easily be achieved a 5000 figure? >> guest: very quickly. if this a been a place the border would not have been open for the last four months. the number has been surpassed frequently, i think there've been seven days singular days in the past four months that have not been be on 5000.

there have been moments in this crisis where we're seeing border crossings surpassed 10,000, 11,000 in a single day single day. this would certainly, would've been a place for long time given what we've seen over the past year but still republicans think that threshold should be even lower. >> host: one of the point of this bill was, to find asylum in who gets it. how does it change their current process when it comes to those asking for asylum? >> guest: right. what this would do is expedite the asylum process. that's the key point here. right now what happens is that people come across a border they are given ann initial screening and initial test with the express their fear of returning back to their home country. fear.alled credible it's the first step in the asylum seeking process, and the passenger of migrant are able to surpass this initial test. it's very easy to get through. they are then put into a backlog asylum system which often takes

years before they have any final decision on the immigration case, which means anyone crossing the border legally or illegally who are seeking asylum are pretty much guaranteed a few years in the u.s. with a work permit because the process takes a long because of the backlog. what this bill does is they convinced this process to around six months is theco goal here. there would be three months to pass an initial screening which would be tougher than it is right now son they're making it harder past the first step, and then they are going to expedite the full asylum process giving people decision within another three months, so six months total and the idea would be to more quickly deport people who do not reach the full standard of asylum. >> host: will that all take place in front of an immigration judge per se or will the be surrogates now involve? >> guest: seems this bill would move the process way from immigration courts and towards uscis asylum officers who were house under dhs as opposed to

the department of justice, homeland security as opposed to the department of justice. that is something democrats have said should be d done for a long time to exabyte this process. again it would also limit some of the ways asylum-seekers have to keep appealing any decision. it would limit the number of times they could appeal that which would get expedite the process crime of our guess is with us it would ask questions about the senate bill and what it contains what it comes to the border, you can does on the lines, 202-748-8000 democrats. 202-748-8001 republicans. and independents. >> translator: . to step back a little bit, $20 billion, how does that money breakdown? >> guest: i mean in order to impose all these policies you need a lot of resources at the border. and just to be clear right of the resources at the border are incredibly strange. you look at some of the key immigration agencies and their frankly out of money.

i.c.e. in particular is an agency i've covered that's really don't have money and i.c.e. is a critical part of immigration process. when people think of detention, i.c.e. rates, arresting people but the really are in charge of transporting migrants from the border to other destinations. they are charged at detaining people who have been found to be criminal with criminal histories as most of the people. they run the alternative tracking program and the also remove people wants you found to have no reason for illegally staying in the u.s. they really have no money. a lot off these funds would be investing in expanding shelter space, expanding detention space, expanding the availability of deportation flights. just mechanical things that cost a lot of money to make sure the immigration systemo can meet the large numbers of people coming across the border right have trauma back to the politics for a second. if for some reason the procedure vote scheduled to take place us

in happen, what happens to the bill itself? >> guest: that is a question. it always seems to be on life support as it is an republican state senate republicans say they want time, they want to be able to amend parts of the bill they think should be fixed, but it's hard to see any momentum really building from that because again -- >> we believe this year to take you back now like to use senate which is returning from recess. comment up a vote on the confirmation of kurt campbell to be deputy secretary of state, and after that lawmakers are expected to work on the nomination of a u.s. district court judge for oregon. you are watching live coverage of the u.s. senate here on c-span2. a sufficient second? there appears to be. the clerk will call the roll. the clerk: ms. baldwin mr. barrasso. mr. bennet. mrs. blackburn. mr. blumenthal. mr. booker. mr. boozman. mr. braun. mrs. britt. mr. brown. mr. budd. ms. butler. ms. cantwell. mrs. capito. mr. cardin.

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