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>> he spent 24 years in the u.s. navy is not officer currently is a professor of public policy at florida state university, welcome to the program. >> you. >> is a mention come you were 24 years in the u.s. navy, and several those years as captain, a destroyer in a cruiser, and can you start with your assessment of have the strikes have gone so far. >> i think we've certainly changed the dynamic and is unfortunate because it took a couple of months for us to reach the decision that we needed to change the dynamic and i think that it should be noted, that the deployed naval course of just a tremendous job in reacting to the unusual situation with these rebels firing all kinds of missiles and
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drones are commercial ships, houthi rebels and this is a degree of intensity that we not seen ever currency and for the u.s. navy to have essentially knocked down every threat, quite impressive and however, that we should be looking to chew the archer is a posted troubleshooting all of i think this wall street journal is reporting that u.s. drone strikes have killed the iraq militia leader, behind the deadly attack on that american based in jordan significant is that. >> i think it is better than we have seen in the past, when we have gone after leaders of ideologies that there are more people behind them. in the leadership void will be filled in just a matter of time. >> and kind of the balance military leaders they have to
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not have to think about and when they tried to thread the needle between responding and not escalating. >> right and so what you see is a broad effort, use the tools all his eyes military, to try to address what is happening is certainly diplomatic and we pay attention to intelligence information their economic factors involved, and those four things they were together and unfortunately, just in recent weeks, military artist taken for forefront and nobody in the military wants that to be the case however, there will these times rules of engagement in the law of the sea, they allow us to defend ourselves, and when threatened we should expect right of free commercial shipping through international waters and through the red sea were seeing a balance of diplomacy as i said, that unfortunately coming in some ways for a time early diplomatic cia director come i don't think that it should be that way i
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think we see the secretary of state performing in diplomacy admiral broadly but we did not and it will take time to unwind a bit. >> and the houthi rebels have a ending of their tax in the pentagon spokesman, major general pat writer i should say, was asked about that i'm going to play that, the portion and then have you respond to it. >> fact, they've been three attacks by iranian proxy forces in syria since friday, and you say that the assessment is that the strikes on friday night had good effects, and how can you say that when there three more attacks what will the response be in on the troops, at those bases then those outposts allowed to leave the base and to for those who firing the rockets in the drones in the basis. >> you so couple of things, so first of all your last comment, armed forces will always maintain the inherent right of
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self-defense and so they need to take appropriate actions to defend themselves using as do that in the past and in terms of attacks in iraq and syria, please try somebody visual tracking to incidents is what attack on saturday. february 3rd, that was too rockets are fired in mss you ladies in syria, i have no injuries or damage reported. and i am aware of one yesterday, february 4th, this was a one-way talk grown elated several kilometers from mss green village. and again no reported u.s. injuries or damage to those facilities. again, the strikes on friday, when response as i highlighted in my top u.s. forces are jordan and again, will take necessary action, or forces. >> what had i believed that there was a strike, they killed
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six fighter. >> i think what you're referring to is latter one that i highlighted and i am aware of this reports of serious democratic forces killed in that strike but it would have to refer you to them. >> in the u.s. forces were there were. >> in the vicinity of green village. >> and i will get your response but i want to let the viewers know that if you would like to ask a question, i guess jean ready to do so and winds are open, republicans 202-74-8800 wanted to because 202-74-8800 an independent 2027 or 88002 and also protect us that teams 8003 and we are on facebook i don't ask head your response to that and also, how military leaders would measure success in these cases. >> what it is a great question and i've been involved in start planning from the pentagon as an advisor to determine tomahawk
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issues, while in this joint operation vision and air were for planner planner for the eisenhower about a group as a matter of fact that is over there right now in previous deployments and battle damage assessment is something that is ongoing and we have tremendous intelligence and capability to pull forward coordinates on very precise targets and great care is taken to make sure that there is not collateral damage we all see what can happen civilians are hurt or some collateral unintended collateral damage she's place in the great effort is made to ensure that does not happen we rely on intelligence to determine where are the best places to actually make a strike to achieve the desired effect and it does take time to assess, how do we do and how close did it, did we miss by 10 feet or did we miss by the mile and we
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don't hit with 100 percent accuracy as hard as we tried to do that to know the person the world has this capability to be this precise and expect to take everything out of the first try i thank you so unrealistic and i think that the pentagon is indicated in the president national security team is indicated that there will be more this and that is because it does take time to see, how do we do. >> you mentioned intelligence, can you tell us about the targeting is done and given that there is no u.s. troops on the ground in yemen. >> well i don't claim to have information on who on the ground traditionally we do have advanced forces to some accommodation of agencies that telus collected information we also have tremendous electronic resources that satellite resources and is a fusion of
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information that helps present a pretty clear picture to the operational commanders. >> intervention to the tomahawk missiles which is being used against the houthi rebels and what can you tell us about the muscles and how accurate are they and how much does each one of them cost. >> they are quite accurate and that is because based on a global gps is that is only been perfected over decades. their weapon is continually upgraded and what it allows for is a tremendous stand up capability since we do not have to put soldiers and sailors in immediate risk. however, the start planning specifically done is a coordinated effort with their powers well and we have a tremendous capability on any carrier about a group but you also saw the barber that flew 30000 miles to spend 25 or 30 minutes every target of the
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weekend and it is that integration of forces that helps make sure that we will be accurate pretty fast the cost will be raise a good point, and we are spending some expensive weapons on organizations and types of weapons coming out us, that are much lesser threat. there are other ways to get it goes weapons laser systems and microwave systems for example the navy is bringing those into the fleet but they are not fully deployed right now but those would be you know) in the last reaction sort of effort. tomahawk is a standoff weapon and more offensive meant to do things from a distance. >> how much does each one cost. >> there are over a million dollars each. don't forget that we have been firing standard missiles as well and the ballistic missiles and some of the drones also firing
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guns and unfortunately, but quite forcefully in the end of the u.s. has bravely engaged their weapon systems, this essentially a high speed gun and that is a last ditch method of taking on a targeted that means that target was seconds of impact ownership. unfortunately, it worked hard and that i think contributed to the needed to do something a little bit more forceful in the past week. think tank okay will you will take all south start with martin in louisville kentucky democrat hi martin. >> good morning and yes, have difficulty with the government was to get involved and going all of the back to 1979, the revolution, i was - at the time the iranians - they would expect to be the hatred you see everyday in these america demonstrations, and abc nightline, that some point it at the american coming as the american government from keeping little dictator in power the
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country for 25 years and five years later when i was in the navy, some of the people will be looking american politics exactly the opposite way that we do, they think that is republican party in the american the united states government to get involved his grocery chain and if the democrats don't want us to say understand with things rather natural course in these things without any interference from the americans students in the british to 19 so i do have difficulty whatever reason over there to protect saudi arabia and one of the reason is that i have difficulty with us and thank you. >> jean, can you explain what the u.s. navy is doing in the red sea think out of the impact of the attacks been happening. >> while i think it is a very fair question to ask in a broader sense and as our policy with iran but in this over the last four decades. we have been added in one way or another with various interests and abilities and more
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specifically to what the navy does, in the navy as fully deployed every day of the year throughout the globe so we have carriers certainly in the red sea right now from the eisenhower group another care is the pacific that are always forward fully deployed with the company submarines and ships. there's a jokes within the services the navy is always the first to start a war. i think that way sometimes because they are the ones that are deployed or some another garrison forced stays back in his deployed when called upon. we do this so that we can maintain freedom of navigation to keep the sea lines of communication open and it is critical that we have the ability to move commerce around the world when we saw immediately what happened when the suez canal was blocked, for one day, the block $9 billion in economic goods move through that chokepoint talk point throughout the world and we routinely test and demonstrate the ability to
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navigate freely on the ocean comments. >> let's go to newmarket alabama independent line, you. >> yes and good morning. - make the clay, right no mistaking a general somali qassem soleimani in the aggressive actions add unappreciated if chuck karen will delve into that event to do some fact checking and what wasa ransom reaction or response to that strike and their activities in fact, slow after that and if so, to what extent was that actually attributable to the strike itself and thank you. >> but i think my only point of that take out the ed of ideologies that there are nearly disruptions and other factors start to emerge i think what we
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see now this emergence of proxies, throughout the region, they clearly have connections to iran are operating with they believe is more freedom to maneuver. we did see that previously and so i think that is an outcome. but we as the states, we have a tremendous capacity to overestimate our ability to bring forth democracy around the world. it is a noble globe under goal but i think out often, we have trouble addressing the fact that we have to live in the world that we live in my cannot necessarily be added to our will. and to the appointed hand here with a naval operations as i said, we try to maintain communication with the sea and minds of excess lines of communication using established ceilings. >> catalina as next in the
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indianola mississippi independence next go right ahead kathleen. >> i don't know where to start. [inaudible]. total of ten constitutions, we would not be in the state and it is sad to mean, we call once a month and it is about well but again, and pompeo and afghanistan and all the troops and bite about them overcome. >> intervention, tommy tucker bill what can you tell us about the halls and any lasting effects on those military promotions wild. >> will really cost of - in the flow into leadership positions. the military operates at a
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number fashion where spirit toward the leaders are built from within so to speak and you cannot go out to the hiring agency and higher three-star admiral or general they have to be monitoring along the way. and when you just dropped that normal flow, without warning, the system struggles to respond. now i think that we saw that there were certainly implications were the world gets a vote in this and the bad actors get a vote and they continue to act and we did have some situations where the senior plagued officers in general officers were effectively wearing two hats at one time while they allowed some to execute their normal retirement plans summer held on active duty in the real destruction was to the families who have some reasonable expectation of flow pattern to their changes of duty
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station hard as a father of four daughters, my wife and i moved over 20 times 24 your career. that is a part of the lifestyle and culture there a lot of ramifications to that they can get lost, to the senate rules about one senator being able to put a hold of my first link i have a problem without it i think that it is too much power in the hands of one but that is really for the senate to figure out and i think that when a lot of pressure on the senator fell and eventually, they did not without some cost of destruction the active-duty military. >> all right if all is next and nampa idaho republican go ahead good morning yes thank you for taking my call. i think you sir, for your service to the country and the rest of the world and my question is, is it really beneficial for us to continue to go after the proxies as they are called root and i understand
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that the and some of the missiles but is a really worth it when we need to go to the head of the snake and cut it off and keep it for the continuing to give out direction and orders six through the region. i see there's no insight. because they accumulated over hundred billion dollars in funds some of the attorneys in a couple of other countries over there right selling their oil to the iranian for there is no end in sight the way i see it. i can continue to go on and on and on card so i would like the answer. >> or playing wacko mother for several weeks and even months as we reacted to how these third parties were taking shots at us and i think you raise an excellent point, that we are dealing with symptoms as opposed to the actual problem. and there is a flow of funding
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throughout the world that allows for these various systems and technologies to get into the hands these few groups. that is a problem. and you know the turkeys that they use go back to hundred years and we saw the barbara pirates do this by trying to take tribute from u.s. sailing ships that we come through what is changed as the tools that they have at their disposal of those tools are funded is somehow used to lead commercial delegations around the world and for time in the middle east that i have seen congressional leaders go face-to-face with senior financial officials in various parts of the world, talking about the specific issue we control the flow of funds into these groups pretty needs to be addressed in the international security issues and these are not u.s. navy decisions or anybody in u.s. military, because the collection of national security
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decision-making apparatus and he succumbed to grips with how they will handle this pretty. >> here's another call in south lake tahoe california dominican morning. >> good morning and how are you today. >> good. >> i have a question for the captain brown, well the other day i saw a pinpoint strike on a car and they got a bad guy and wondering for this was that, was it from bedroom. and what about israel and so the 2000 - warmed and think you so much and have a good day. >> i'm not familiar with the exact target we speak of and are precision guided missiles ripens rather can be launched from aircraft and from the drones. and there highly hard. come into the queue greeted with
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some of those systems are able to be integrated to do the situation with israel and hamas that i think that it is a different question they certainly have their set of capabilities and their fighting different type of urban warfare right now, i am not sure the power systems would necessarily change the game plan is under way to effigy what we know that the capabilities of those iranian reduced drones; think we are learning the face of the warfare is changing on it began with the predator drone the first recognition by the u.s. and little it could be armed successfully. and we see this evolution take place and believe me we are learning more about the capabilities everyday and i think that is part of her old meadow damage assessment and in
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hot water so to speak and how did we do at addressing these targets in which systems work to better which did not we continue told the lessons for years i'm sure. >> it doesn't go to the independent line in indiana, deacon morning. >> good morning. >> oya day. >> if you check the archives from former president trump was president there was interview were somebody asked him about war and he made the comment and he was the president, he made the comment, well i love wars. in any said it emphatically. interview hunters said will what about nuclear wars and he kind of got look on his face and he shrugged his shoulders and he
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never answered that pretty and always thought that was kind of a hard terrible thing for a president of the united states to even make that comment even though he sometimes does not think before he says something. and that is just my omitted he must be really enjoyed what is going on now. this is absolutely awful what is going on in the world. that's my comment that i just do not understand. >> okay d percentage of adult vernon pennsylvania democrats be back hi, i have a question for captain rendon would like to make a few points afterwards after he answers because it would be the position, the comment of them and captain moran, and recently come to the biden administration claim to no connection to gaza and that's
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military people in the text on shipping and what you think about that. >> we can draw a linkage of the proxy groups to around and whether one caused activity in the red sea and they may be more tenuous connection cannot be made but i think that the common leakage point is around. >> like a gym. >> well, i think that he invaded like ebay to my question which was, this connection to see that there's a connection to gaza, obviously there was one to but what about gaza. >> you talk about hamas and also. >> yes well more concerned about the israeli reaction and the fact that president biden funded
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and in doing that is funding more crimes and that makes him a criminal and the co-conspirators are in these war crimes. >> okay. >> and charles, fort worth texas, democrat. >> i seem to be in the same line, that it should have been, i was going in about whether the president was a part of that insurrection on january 6. >> okay, we'll get to that in a very shortly we're going to finish up with our guest first little buddy can in fairfax virginia independent. >> i think it how are you. >> good. >> great happy friday and just a couple of questions, so we have consistently and constantly support nations in their efforts to defend themselves against -
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and i guess in a lifetime the russia has always been a threat in a gap of the question comes a point we just go ahead and eliminate russia so we no longer have to continually support ukraine question would be going to the audience about essentially that we give endless funds to certain nations for example israel, he could you explain to those unaware of the 1967, u.s. liberty incident and could you explain it to people that are not aware of it exactly what happened. >> well be reluctant to try to recount history here but i think we seen throughout the world with our nations the dealer help and in a point of u.s. policy we have made the decisions to and try to help prevent things from escalating in the region so that we do not have to fight worse at home we would much rather have things be addressed overseas so
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that we can live the life and lifestyle that who we choose and run the prophetic way. sometimes that requires interacting with actors who are you know of a different makeup than we are. and who have different views on the world should be previously have a great capacity to over and overestimate or capability to try to influence and change of mind to another reminder want to be changed pretty the degree to help them and supporter more broad goals pretrade in for example and relative peace and despite the wars of the last 20 years the world has been a relative please use from u.s. perspective and we do not feel threatened day-to-day in this because were engaged globally we dress things before they come to
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our shores. >> he ran as a retired circus for argus officer with the u.s. navy in public policy at florida state university think it was yesterday. >> thank you. >> thank you everyone i think you for joining the congressional budget office said i am going to talk first about the federal budget and discuss the economy. in the projections projections we've released today, the deficit grows from $1.6 trillion, 2024,
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22.62034 trillion and measured in relation to the economic output, deficits during the time are about 50 percent larger than their historical average over the past 50 years. then interest cost for a major contributor to the deficit and the growth is equal to about orders of the increase in the deficit from 2024, after 2034 and initially, then interest cost similar to the mouse discretionary spending for the defense and for nondefense activities and by the end of the time at $1.6 trillion in interest la is a roughly one and a half times larger and nondefense spending and also boosting deficits are to underlining transco the aging of the population growth and have spending to beneficiary is transferred upward pressures inventory spending and measuring
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in relation to economic output, federal debt held by the public prices from 99 percent in 2024, up to 160 percent in 2034 suppressing the historical peak and the debt ratio continues to rise reaching 172 percent by 2054. and from 2024 - 2033, the deficit is about 7 percent smaller than we projected last year printed primarily as a result of the fiscal responsibility act of 2023, the subsequent continuing resolution and together those laws reduce the growth of discretionary spending including the effect on surfaces and legislative changes reduce deficits by $2.6 trillion for the next ten years. in our projection, the deficit is also smaller that it was last year, because economic it puts
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greater as a result of more people working. labor force in 2033, is larger by 5.2 million people mostly because of higher net immigration card and more workers mean more outputted that in turn leads to additional tax revenue. as a result of the changes in the labor force, we estimate down from 2023, 22024 gp will be greater by about $7 trillion and the revenues will be greater by about $1 trillion and they would've been otherwise we are continuing to assess the implications of the immigration for revenues spending and in particular, we are still analyzing the immigration legislation that is been considered in the sense. two key factors, partially offset the deficit reduction relative to last year's rejection predict the first is that this clause rise as a result of higher interest rates and secondly, the cost of energy related tax revisions, are much
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higher than the stuff of the joint committee on taxation originally projected pretty those costs reflect new emission standards market developments, and actions taken by the v administration to implement the tax provisions. and turning to her economic projections, the u.s. economy grew faster in 2023, then they did in 2022 come even as inflation flow and resulted economic growth is projected to slow in 2024, amidst increased unemployment, lower inflation. so the stack the federal reserve to respond by reducing interest rates and starting the middle of the calendar year predict headed our projection i can only throw 302,025, and moderates in the later year. since february of 2023 coupling the published his last full economic forecast, the agency has lowered its projection of economic growth and inflation is measured by the price index were
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2024. they expect interest rates to be higher from 2024 - 2027 the projected last year and after 2027, the cbo current and previous economic forecast for economic growth are generally similar to our previous projections. and let me stop here and i am happy to take questions i would be grateful if you would just singer named news organization when you ask a question. >> sorry about that. and they can be down at 1.4 trillion over ten years or something like that mainly
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because of - >> that is the biggest contributor reducing deficit and then offset by a range of other things that technical the tax provisions on the 2022, reconciliation legislation and that leads to a higher deficit and there is no range of changes in each direction a full discussion in chapter three of the report. it starts with figure three - one on page 76 and he goes through all of the other category details. >> and i noticed by 2017 from them mention it about 20 times the report and then connected to references that expires in down in the revenues then they go up just the opposite. >> yes, that's correct and you
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can see those a facts into revenue figures, that from 2025, 22026 the revenues your because of by little bit less than 1 percent of the gdp and that's attributable mainly to the expiration the personal provisions in 2017 taxes. >> mezzo david with reuters news service good to see you again in person and i'm just wondering if you can kind of take us to the clean energy tax credit adjustments here and handling of 4,120,000,000-dollar figure includes i think bpa new estimae tax revenue that epa changes ant sort of what the inflation reduction act part of this is and how much are those estimates higher than what the gtp came out with so that when the bill was passed. >> will sure, just
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flipping pages, and you see on page 86, the report is fox 31, it's not quite will supposed to full pages they go through some of the details. and i challenge here it is the new baseline, compared to the baseline on which the 2020, act this estimate is again of originally by g etn well to baselines ago, just because the baseline was estimated was the 22, so there is also the changes so makes it will be difficult to apple to apple comparison but i can discuss some of the key components and the biggest single one. mr. schumer: mr. president, i'm glad the senate took the next step tonight towards passing the
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supplemental. the senate will convene tomorrow at noon. as i've said, i hope our republican colleagues can work with us to reach an agreement on amendments so that we can move this bill more quickly. if no agreement is reached under the rule, the next vote will be approximately 1:00 p.m. on sunday. i yield the floor. no, i don't yield the floor. i ask unanimous consent that the commission on health, education -- committee on health, education, labor and pensions be discharged from further consideration of s. 1147 and the senate proceed to its immediate consideration. the presiding officer: the clerk will report. the clerk: s. 1147, a bill to amend the child abuse prevention and treatment act and so forth. the presiding officer: is there an objection to proceeding to the measure? without objection, the committee is discharged. the senate will proceed. mr. schumer: i ask unanimous
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consent the cornyn substitute amendment at the desk be conditioned and agreed to, the bill as amended be considered read a third time and passed, and that the motions to reconsider be considered made and laid upon the table. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. schumer: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that the senate proceed to the en bloc consideration of the following senate resolutions, s. res. 555, 556, 557, s. res. 558. the presiding officer: is there an objection to proceeding en bloc? no objection, the senate will proceed. mr. schumer: i ask unanimous consent the resolutions be agreed to, the preambles where applicable be agreed to, and the motions to reconsider be considered made and laid upon the table all en bloc. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. schumer: i ask unanimous consent that the appointment at the desk appear separately in the record as if made by the chair. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. schumer: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that when the senate completes its business today, it stand adjourned until 12:00 noon on
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saturday, february 10. following the prayer and pledge, hour morning hour, the journal of proceedings be approved to date, the time for the two leaders be reserved for their use later in the day, and morning business be closed. that upon the conclusion of morning business, the senate resume consideration of calendar number 30, h.r. 815. the presiding officer: without objection. so ordered. schumer human if there is no further -- mr. schumer: if there is to further business to come before the senate, i ask that it stand adjourned under the previous order. the presiding officer: the senate stands adjourned until >> u.s. senate is gaveled out for the day lawmakers have voted to begin debate on foreign aid legislation, providing $95 million for israel ukraine taiwan and said lawmakers will continue work on the legislation tomorrow throughout the weekend watch live coverage of the u.s. senate when lawmakers return here on "c-span2".
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