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us. national cyber director harry. harry is a graduate of the u.s. naval academy of postgraduate school in georgetown law center. director has received numerous accolades from across his many years of service to our nation. such as a national intelligence distinguished service medal for exceptional service he has served as executive director of the nsa. he played a strategic role across the intelligence community including extensive experience as well marked by a leadership and digital innovation. and science and technology and n public affairs. showcases his commitment to excellence and our nation is very lucky he has decided to return to service the cell is 6 feet in washington. i ask you all to please join me

national cyber director harry coker. >> good afternoon. i am delighted to be here and thank you, jason for that gracious introduction. he wondered who we were talking about but i will take it. i am excited to join well this afternoon to kick off this event i had a procedure i had my old left knee replaced two weeks ago so i may not build a kick this off in the fashion i would like

too. i still cannot get into my dress shoes i hope you will forgive me for wearing air jordans. i heard i need to kick this thing off so i will take the power of any athlete especially the go to get it done. but, and all seriousness i'm honored to stand before you as a nation the second national cyber director. i'm particularly pleased to be here at the summit you all have been great collaborators were grateful to an organization like iti for helping to create opportunities for engagement that drives meaningful change. at the office of the national cyber director we like to say engage early and often i will be here early in my tenure. i've been in the job for a little over seven weeks and i have to tell you i was humbled

but also quite excited to be called back to serve. i do not know any position could have brought me out of my second retirement due to the potential to make a lasting impact for our nation was an easy decision for me. after 43 years in the navy and the intelligence community it truly is a privilege to help new and tribute to the safety and the prosperity of the american people. but one thing you should know about me i love to solve harder problems that was a driving factor in my decision to return to government service and to quote the goat michael jordan obstacles don't have to stop you. if you run into a wall don't turn around and give up figure out how to climate and go through it or work around it. our problems do energize me i grew up as a cold or sailor in

the navy when our nations face the hard problem with the soviet union. part of the intelligence community i was extremely proud to take on what we now refer to as the great power competition. part of my contribution to those efforts included incorporating the open source enterprise into the agencies and into the centers. all of those challenges were hard with cybersecurity is a different kind of a hard problem. that stems from the threat which is very real and persistent. one example amongst many is the threat from the people's republic of china. last week i had the honor of testifying in front of the house select committee to focus on the chinese communist party with my colleagues from across the federal government in

particular. assistant director easterly fbi director wray my friend and former boss recently retired commander of u.s. cyber command and director. it was an important moment for us to appear together to articulate the full measure of the threat posed by china. and to demonstrate coherence and collaboration across our federal enterprise. cyber actors from the people's republic of china are actively working to gain access into our nation's critical infrastructure systems with the purpose of disruption or worse, destruction. in the early stages of armed conflict they want to disrupt our military's ability to mobilize and to impact the systems that allow us to thrive in our increasingly digital world. their intention is to drive home a point so many of us have known

for years. in cyberspace and the private sector as well as the american people themselves are on the front lines. and as we all know the vast majority of critical infrastructure in our nation is owned and operated by the private sector. folks, protecting and defending america from a growing number of cyber threats is a hard problem. ensuring the short and long-term protections of a defense and resilience of the systems that underpin our increasingly digital way of life is a hard problem. in ensuring internet remains open, free, global and operable and importantly secure anchored in universal values that respect human rights and fundamental freedoms is a hard problem. harder still is what we do about it. after all belligerent states have postured their military

forces aggressively for millennia. america said plenty of success last-minute domain of cyberspace but as we said last week the risk we face within the cyberspace today is unacceptable. there are plenty of actions that we have, can, and will take to address counters normative behavior and the necessity to partner with so many of you in this room is absolute essential. how do we collectively how do we take the talent your organizations and channel our collective energy toward countering the growing number of malicious actors. how do we collectively the technology to create and make sure they are source how do we

truly help local governments one of the more than 50000 public water systems spread across our great nation. thankfully the present has started sat on the right foot. from the very beginning of this administration present by the mid- cybersecurity priority. he brought in some outstanding people and some of them will be with you here today. my dear friend national security advisor at the national security council who will join you all later this afternoon has made incredible progress. 14028 pushing for the creation of cyber trust. and i would be remiss if i did not mention my white house colleague kobe, south carolina

but currently the director public engagement. you'll see him this afternoon for his outreach on behalf of the administration's key to strengthening our partnerships and delivering outcomes. at oh ncd we have been lucky to have had chris english setter organization on the right course. we were champions of this office and our mission. i am proud and lucky to build upon the foundation those two leaders said for us. we are also standing on the shoulders and the wisdom of the office of cyber director in 2021 following a recommendation by the cyberspace solarium commission. i was pleased to meet with many of those commissioners last week. i did tell you their insight continues to be a great value to

me and frankly to all of us. leaders note you cannot tackle hard problems. good old fashion grip. and i am hopeful this group has heard quite a bit about the national cybersecurity strategy. the two bold shifts. number one, shifting the responsibility away from individuals and small businesses and onto the larger institutions capable of bearing more responsibility in cyberspace. a number to a real lighting incentives to favor long-term investments in cybersecurity. that has been said before and i agree with that but allow me too share my take on this important strategy. it's bold because the underlying vision and the tenacity. the work of the off it sets out

explicitly the hard problems wee had to solve and takes them head on. the strategy says we have to take problems the fact the insured was built on insecure foundations. we are finally implementing improvements through the border gateway protocol. accountable when that russian rh insecure code to market. we are working with the academic community and legal expert to explore different liability regimes. will soon be engaging with you for the private sector perspective. that's smart regulations minimize compliance burden on companies. we are one of partners across inter- agencies to harmonize requirements using the feedback many of you have already provided us in response to our request for information.

the strategy says we need and diverse and robust cyber workforce to meet the challenge of this decisive decade. we are working aggressively to foster ecosystems across the nation to fill the more than half a million cyber jobs that are available today. too that end i have already been to a job fair and career event and thrilled to have heard from an incredible array of students, faculty and employers. it's great to see it we've made progress. some employers that had not visited that institution before and came away impressed rowing to follow up on that. we'll be doing events across the country exposing people to opportunities. but every one of the problems i have mentioned his heart in its

own right. each of the ones i mentioned has been studied for decades. each remained pernicious but unresolved. what makes national cybersecurity strategy bold is its clarity. one seem to complicate our precisely what we need to tackle to seize the initiative my predecessors made a clear commitment to transparency and accountability by publishing the national cybersecurity implementation plan. act as a former program manager i found it impressive as i come to watch the team put the shoulder to the real every day across inter- agency. trust is openness. we commit to you when we report on our progress not just where

we succeeded but where we came up short. with the intent of getting better. in the coming months you will see the reports on the efforts to date in the next phase of the strategies of limitation. and i will say one additional thing for the implement strategy and plan. policy solutions are not self-executing. it is true developing solutions to the hard problems in cyberspace is a fundamental responsibility of our office but so is carrying them to fruition. thankfully i am not alone there are 80 incredible patriots that i get to work with every day. experts who hail from the industry, civil society, federal agencies in capitol hill. their work includes putting the good ideas and powerful solutions to thoughtful strategy into practice to improve the

digital foundation of this nation and to make our nation safer. i am excited about the work the talented staff is leading on the open research problem of software measurability that makes it difficult to understand the quality of code we use. 2016 newspaper we are continuing to make progress on. are also pushing government and private sector coders to ensure secure by design incorporates memory safe programming languages. some of the most dangerous vulnerabilities that criminals look to exploit our memory safety bugs and memory safe coding languages to prevent those errors from ever making into production and yes developers have been slow to adopt them even though many have existed for years. in the coming weeks you will see us put out a paper that

addresses memory safety and software measurability. additionally we are developing guidance to help agencies eliminate un- necessary degree requirements for contacting cybersecurity positions. while this has been mandated for years it's another tough challenge that has yet to be fully implemented. in many cases it turns out implementing the solution is the hardest part of all. that will take partnership the first shift in the strategy is about rebalancing responsibility in cyberspace to the most capable actors. that means the government, yes, it also means all the organizations represented in the rooms today and all of you. make sure the cloud improves cybersecurity takes meaningful partnership to stop adversaries from using our own systems.

as home or office routers to launch their attacks. to bring coherence to the federal mission coordination to unwind the sea of licenses agencies deal with on a daily basis. it will take innovative partnership in your technological know-how to scale solutions that protect pipelines delivering gas to homes in minneapolis or to a hospital with lifesaving care in my hometown. it will not be easy and that is why the national cybersecurity strategy is our northstar. i appreciate its traces its lineage back 25 years. that tells me that was and remains a bipartisan issue. that tells me the public-private partnership was and remains core to our success.

still dealing with some of the same tough problems. the office we have the team, we have the vision, we have the responsibility for not scratching our heads the same problem in 2050. so i say again please continue to collaborate with us in a true partnership fell and knows the truth even you think we don't want to hear. let us know what's working feedback and ideas. solving the hard problems for the our nation security and prosperity. thank you. [applause]

♪ joining us now jason, president and ceo of iti with david senior vice president of global public policy and general counsel at amazon. corrects high david. welcome to the intersect hour thanks your first speech inside washington incite his appointment this important role. this holds what we need to be thinking about but it's equally if perhaps not more important for us to have conversation with industry leaders about how we should be crafting our story here in washington and around the world. i am so thrilled to have david here with us today to help us think through the important policies of the debris as a thank you for being here for lex

thank you for having me. it's a privilege and an honor and it is great to be able to engage on these important issues. >> we've been around since 1916. we are 108 years old if i'm doing the math. amazon is not quite that old. but you have been with amazon for a number of years almost since the beginning, 24 years if i have the number right. tell us about how your role has evolved. and what you're responsible for today. >> i wasn't in the beginning for sure but i joined in the fall of 99. i was only litigation regulatory attorney with amazon back then. there were about 15 people in the company's revenues were just over a billion dollars. we did that for a dozen years

and years later my boss retired and asked me too take her job. and so the council 2012 the company was about $61 billion in revenue. and it was about 200, 2050 people. lester had the opportunity to step into leadership of the global public policy organization. which is an additional -- as this room knows more than most relate top-notch people. we are over five your billion in revenue. the more than 2000 people. it has been an amazing journey. i feel very lucky, very privileged to have the most interesting job as one could possibly have.

when to be hard to convince me that's not true for iraq as a recovering lawyer myself i can agree these kind of jobs are more interesting than a lot of other things you can do. that is quite a journey. i remember as it tech policy discussion has a lot to share and a lot to offer. were going to talk a lot about ai in particular in a minute. but as you discussed your own journey within the company i can imagine the company itself is change a lot over the 24 years you have been there as well. >> it is interesting. some ways it changed immensely. it is so much larger. i don't even come close to knowing which is disconcerting. i could not have imagined in 2012 alexa, 177 suite fly around

network. satellites, movie studios. even since 2012 we have had to grow and adapt and build those businesses. that includes lawyers and the issues in the spaces. it has been a constant exercise in building. i stopped somewhere around 2008 i stopped trying to predict the future at all. see the same faces when i walk in the door. a lot of my senior leadership were there. one of the guys on my team was on the energy move we still talk about the company we think about the company lot the same way. and as you probably know one of our big priorities can stay focused on trying to remain

which means staying nimble, staying clean making decisions quickly. making sure we are not too big to cause a slowdown. and we worry a lot about that. and many ways we change it in many ways it hasn't. went to particularly focus on ai. that's a lot of the focus it's happening on amazon, run generative ai. and obviously of as we have heard today the member of congress from california's 23rd is literally the only person with an ai degree. industry has an incredibly important role to play in a form of policymakers here in the u.s. and around the world about the

benefits of aip we hear about the scary stuff. we talk about how ai is going to end the world. we in industry not focus on that or focus on telling the positive story telling the good that can come from it. can you share with us in the first instance what amazon is and would generative ai and with the ai roadmap looks like? and talk about how we can tell that story to policymakers? >> sure. for a long time i resisted the term ai at all. i would not allow in my office. it really is another application of machine learning techniques. investing in machine learning in every aspect of our business for a long time. it's behind the recognition that's part of alexa.

we are very familiar with machine learning. a very large language models is a new application of that. that obviously is incredibly exciting with a lot of possibilities. we are fully investing in that as well. amazon has a three-tiered approach to ai. we are at the base of foundation level we have been working with chips that are optimized for training algorithms and doing machine learning the special design trips that make it much more cost-effective. there is a middle layer that we

built into amazon web services that are most easily access through a place like bedrock which gives our customers the ability to access the whole choice, a whole variety of large language models. she the shopping assistance on amazon. i think ai but it won't happen overnight. going to experiments with third

level customer facing apps that uses technology. some will be mine and blindly great. they're not going to build themselves. i think we have some time to figure out what this is and isn't. the weight amazon his providing and democratizing it if you will but also investing in our own models. >> given that brett of policy issues that has arise from the breath of business uses of ai. i wanted to ask you how you are approaching the regulatory environment. it is one thing for me too rely on aim i amazon.

treatment course to follow based on people with similar circumstances and the ai use case and medical. so obviously a risk-based approach is important. for amazon this is enormously complicated you have so many use cases for ai. and as you and your team and travel the world and talk to different jurisdictions some are further ahead than others, some are moving forward on the ai acts. here in the u.s. we are still talk about what might happen at the federal level. are there some guardrails? are there some we support.

supporting risk-based regulatory. we support the white house. we were at the safety summit. we supported those. that's an encouraging aspect of the fact this is all so new and everything is doing everything all at once we have the opportunity to build consensus about what are the risks what are the use cases we should be concerned about? and how can we work backwards which we all agree are bad. build the right regulatory guardrails. that will prevent the harms. i need what is -- what's a bad

thing or trying to stop? one thing about being so broad it's like both of the examples you use as one you should be concerned about and may be one you shouldn't be so concerned about. obviously anytime for using this type of technology to make decisions or civil rights or things that could profoundly change someone's life. you have to move very carefully and make sure you are using with the utmost responsibility, safety, security. the problem is as i alluded to before us we don't know what those things are going to be. it is a particulate fraud exercise to start regulating something you don't really understand and it doesn't really exist yet.

the very favorable that could save lives. or make people's lives much better. it is a balance. the good news is there's a thera burgeoning set of consensus in the uk and the u.s. and some other countries. where we can work together and i think the key is and this is where you guys are an incredible ally is to educate and collaborate with lawmakers and policymakers so we can help them understand the technology and we can talk together about the risks and use cases are. >> of those to use cases i've mentioned when medical is like primary i would don't make it up. it is fantastic. you mentioned the importance of

making that connection for policymakers with what businesses are trying to you and the impact of the public policy decisions i want to ask you as a business leader with a seat at the table of the business decisions made at amazon how do you estimate this will be a helpful practice tip for all of us how do you make that case ann your send out members of congress or parliament how to make that connection to help them understand here are the things there amazon is trying to use the benefit of our customers here is what the decision you're contemplating making is going to do to our ability to deploy that service. how do you make that connection? as you mentioned no one likes abstractions and some are hypothetical abstractions. you are trying to tell policymakers the decisions they make are going to impact their constituents accesses great technologies had he make that case? >> you have to make it real. like i said i'm not good abstraction anyway pretty hectic come up with.

i'll give you an example they didn't expect to talk about but it's a pretty powerful one. when ukraine was first invaded we worked with the ukraine government to quickly copy their government records, the real estate country get them out of the country. and upload them to the clouds. give them ongoing access to their records weeks before the record. and so under certain versions of what they call the you cloud there are versions of that that would have prohibited aren't a certain percentage owned by new entities from even carrying government workloads because of

what we would say are more protection reasons. what i was able to tell many policymakers as this version of that law gets past we can't help ukraine we are just not allowed to. that is what you break. when you look at legislation like this and you consider a solution and that goes over one weight in the france. it goes over another way in finland with russia. so you need to find a real world examples and talk it through. >> the provision of her talk about is deafly on our priority list. the idea of the security of a cloud service should be determined by the geographic location of the corporate headquarters of the provider is not one that makes much sense.

>> we are all nato allies. we already share the most sensitive geopolitical and military data that you can have. that's a little crazy to have legislators in one country and the other. who rail about the insecurity data and headquarter companies. >> not a good measure. not a good proposal. looking ahead we are now five weeks, six weeks into 2024. how is the rest of that you're looking for you? what's on the roadmap? any moon shots? >> were not going to the moon. >> what is on the roadmap we should be thinking about for 2024? >> we are encouraged by how we made it through 2023 and 2022 is very challenging headwinds for our business and every business for a couple of years.

we sort of address our cost structure the direction of our business. regionalized our logistics will deliver to customers with products that are closer to them. and get to them faster, cheaper and more sustainable. and so that work is still underway and that is very exciting. he asked that question about what opportunity is left at amazon? post a pandemic even. the percentage of online shopping versus retail is less than 20%. it's going to rise over time and the percentage only five or so% is in the cloud.

so just on those businesses there is a ton of potential to continue growing. tell me more customers we can serve. we translate that into our favorite groceries are pharmacies that are just starting their journey. and then when you get out of those two more established places you look at our project to launch 3200 plus low earth orbit satellites so we can provide a worldwide broadband service focused on rural communities. we are very excited about that. the prototype test. and they worked better than expected to work.

with the first order was placed losing those satellites. it's very exciting. we are going to go into production on those satellites in 2024. we'll be doing a lot of launches. we have this company which i am incredibly optimistic about. we bought it a few years ago. led by some visionary people who are pioneering electric vehicles that will be at thomas. and so there are moon shots. we've only scratched the surface with one medical with innovations working with one medical. so as usual at amazon there's a lot of investments.

i have never been more optimistic about it. >> great last question in 30 seconds we have left together. what do you need from iti? what does the industry need from iti as we address these policy challenges? and let every innovation bloomberg. >> first of all have to thank ici. it is another voice working closely with policymakers and communities so we don't get to always touch. to explain and help the educational process about what technology does. how we think about it but how we can regulate it without inhibiting information. that is a hugely important part of the policy and you guys are hugely important part to and want to thank you for that i. >> think i wound up appreciate your partnership thank you for being with us on the stage today please join me in thanking david. >> thank you.

[applause] >> please welcome courtney lang, vice president of policy at i.t.i. with congresswoman zoe

lofgren. [applause] >> thank you, congresswoman, for joining us today at the intersect. and thank you to everyone for being here. for those of you who don't know, congresswoman lofgren represents the 18th district of california, is the ranking member on the house science, space and technology committee, and is also a senior member of the house judiciary committee. so really glad to have you here today. i have to say i'm happy to be sitting in this seat. since i recently testified in front of the house energy and commerce committee and i have to say, it's nice to be giving the questions as opposed to receiving them. with that, let's get right into it. i wanted to start with an area that i know you have been focusing on quite a lot lately and maybe that's an area that, in the a.i. kind of era that we're living in, hasn't been talked about as much. but i really wanted to start with hearing your perspective on, as we're looking at other

emerging technology areas, one of the things you've been looking at is quantum and why it's so important that the u.s. is prioritizing quantum computing and information science and what you've been thinking about looking at in that space. ms. lofgren: the science committee has taken the lead on this issue. we took the lead on 2018 on the quantum initiative that i think has yielded the results we had hoped for in terms of research and supporting efforts in the scientific world. one of the great things about serving on the science committee as compared to the judiciary committee is that we are very bipartisan. the chairman, frank lucas, he's a conservative republican. i'm not. but that does not keep us from working together because he wants to get something done and so do i. so we are working on the re-authorization of the quantum initiative. we're about to begin a

four-quarters discussion with the senate because we want to make sure that we're touching all the bases. democrats and republicans, house and senate, in that endeavor. obviously quantum computing is not quite there yet. although we are making tremendous strides with -- especially with the hybrids. but it's not just computing, it's also sensing and other uses of the technology and i do think it's important that we maintain our competitive edge there. when you think about all of the things that are happening, sometimes i feel we're just on the door step. a.i., quantum, fusion, and you if we don't make some serious missteps in the next few years, our future is very bright on this planet if we continue the steps forward that we are trying to promote.

>> thank you. you mentioned the quantum reauthorization act which iti was proud to support. what will that do for the u.s. quantum capabilities and how will that help to bolster those capabilities and maintain that competitive edge? rep. lofgren: we are trying to move beyond the truly scientific into some of the applied. nasa is a player, but they were always excluded from this, so we are including them. we also want to make sure that u.s. scientists have the resources necessary, which is a big problem. i love the private sector. i love our private sector companies, but it is important that the scientists and academic researchers also have access so that they can make process -- progress.

we had a hearing just yesterday on that subject. >> i wanted to ask you a little bit more about this in the context of ai in particular and certainly the national science foundation discussing the efforts on the pilot program which is going to be one important mechanism by which to advance some of these research and development activities as well as give access more broadly. we have been very supportive of the mission as well as some of the legislative efforts like the create ai act to really do that. i'm wondering if you can share your thought on how we can make sure that there are federal resources available for this to really succeed moving forward. rep. lofgren: as i say, we had an excellent hearing in the science committee. we invited some nonmembers who

are very interested in this. as well as don buyer who has had great interest in this. it is a resource issue as well as a workforce issue. the two are related. the barrier for entry is very high in terms of computing power. talking one of the leaders in openai expressed skepticism we would be able to provide the resources necessary to catch up. i hope that is not the case because much as i love the private sector, ai should not be owned by three companies in the united states. it should be accessible to the academic community and to researchers and to scientists. and to start ups that matter.

not to mention the fusion program. courtney: we certainly hope to see that moving forward. this resource is going to be really integral to innovation and democratizing access and making sure multiple players in the ecosystem are able to harness this resource. we hope that those efforts are successful moving forward. i guess sticking on the topic of ai which will surprise nobody, it is a big topic of conversation right now and i think it is important to remember that the science committee has been doing work on ai for over a decade now. certainly as the conversation progresses and as we moved to a place where there are different thoughts about how to best regulate and oversee the technology, i want you to share about how you and your

colleagues are thinking about the areas you all are prioritizing. thinking about the right way to approach governance of this technology. rep. lofgren: we tasked them in number of years ago with doing a collaborative process and laying out a non-regulatory framework. i think they did a pretty good job of that. in the end, we are going to need some regulations. they have laid a foundation for how we might proceed. there are disagreements on approaches. should this be risk-based? do you create one giant agency to do the whole thing. it is impossible for one agency to be an expert in every single thing.

it is important that we know what we are doing before we do it. we have had some bipartisan informal briefings. so that we are better educated. one of the issues and this is a judiciary committee issue is the role of intellectual property. there are a lot of questions about that. the product of ai and its connection to intellectual property. the registrar of copyrights is engaging in some investigation on that right now. i don't think in the end she will be the definitive voice. i think the courts are likely to be it. one of the things that she established and i think it is correct is that a creative

product has to be created by a human. you can't copyright something that does not have a human touch. there is going to be a line. where is that line? she is going to work on that. the issue of ingestion is before the court right now. people are discussing whether 230 applies to this. i don't think that has any application to ai whatsoever. the whole theory was to protect free speech. that is not an issue for ai. the real issue is what about humankind for the data that has been ingested? i also look for transparency. one of the things we are looking at in our ai discussions is greater transparency and better access to high-quality data so that ai could be improved, not just generative ai, but other

aspects, where we have a lot of opportunities. people are afraid of misinformation. that is valid. there was recently a deepfake with taylor swift and president biden's voice was used as a fake. all of that is worthy of concern. on the other hand, the use of ai , let's just think about what google did. you would have a phd student unfolding single protein in the human body to write a thesis on that. google unfolded all of them into weeks, posted them for everyone to have. it is going to charge the development of medicine and others, medical advances, tremendously. there are all kinds of wonderful opportunities that we need to keep in mind because there are a number of people on capital

harrow -- hill whose hair is on fire and the sky is falling and that is the wrong approach as well. courtney: i really appreciate that perspective and it is important that we are recognizing how transformative and innovative the technology can be. while also recognizing the risks. we put out principles a couple of years ago on that so we welcome your guys' focus on that as well as some of the other challenging issues. copyright has also come up. rep. lofgren: i would guess congress is not that great at legislating. we specialize in failing. the chances are in the near term other than what the science committee is going to produce which is not the big regulatory theme everyone is talking about it is the private sector efforts in the near term that will be addressing these issues. adobe is coming up with a

tagging system that is very promising. others are also looking at that. i think we may see some real advancements. it is not going to eliminate the need for advancements, but the private sector will carry us a little bit farther and bad actors will tell us more of what we need to he worried about walk-on dress continues to be dysfunctional. courtney: there is a lot of work going on in the industry that people are thinking about including what you just referenced. i think one other area i wanted to ask you about is you mentioned the role in pushing vista development in the ia -- ai risk management framework. that has been a foundational framework for organizations thinking through how did they manage ai risks through their lifecycle? but given where you said, i was curious if you could speak about the role that

international standards play and standards in advancing the conversation on ai risk management and how that ties into the work folks are doing in the actual standards development space and implementing some of the ai executive orders or otherwise. rep. lofgren: i think this standard-setting is very important. we are not where we need to be, but if you can't measure it, it doesn't exist. we also need to work with the developed world on international standards. i'm skeptical that we will be successful with some of our developed countries. china tends to go off on its own. i'm concerned that going off in a direction that may not be that positive. but i think if the united states can take the lead in standard-setting even if it is

voluntary standard-setting, that will help some order into this thing. i think the science committee may play a role in that. we have some excellent scientists and technicians, both in the private sector, but also in government and i want to call them out for the excellent work they did pulling people together. we have an opportunity to leave and i think it would be a mistake not to do that. courtney: thank you. standards are going to be super important so i appreciate all you have done to really push that forward. i think with that we are nearing the end of our time, so i really appreciate your joining us today and we will look forward to continuing to work with you moving forward. rep. lofgren: thank you, i would look forward to it and i will look forward to more work with the last bipartisan committee on capitol hill. [laughter] [applause] courtney: thank you. ♪

>> joining us now, the executive vice president of policy at idf, the deputy chief ai officer and director of cyber policy at the u.s. department of the treasury, director office of critical and emerging technology at the u.s. department of energy, and the deputy chief technology officer at the fbi. >> well, good afternoon, everybody. thank you for joining us at the intersect. it is great to have you here today. we just heard from congresswoman lofgren and if you were at lunch, lots to talk about the importance of ai.

the director speaking about the risk management framework read congresswoman lofgren said we are at an inflection for ai. if we are, it is because of the brass tacks of the real work agencies already have to do to implement ai and they are doing that because of the ai executive order and the guidance, the draft guidance from the white house to agencies that by my count spells out over 200 different things that agencies are going to be responsible for. that covers such a wide range of coverage thinking about how agencies are going to manage risk not just for themselves, but the entities they are responsible for. it covers workforce and how you are going to fill capacity. it covers ai products and systems themselves and within the ecosystems that they exist. that is a lot. one of the first questions we all have is how our government agencies going to go about doing that? elena, i would like to start

with you thinking about how are you prioritizing that? especially when we just saw agencies submitting initial inventories of ai and the department of energy submitted hundred really cool audits. there are cool things about the environment and energy. how are you thinking about balancing all that? >> that is a great question and we have a huge responsibility to deliver, both in terms of innovation, that is one big section of the executive order about how to train workforce, how to develop tools, foundation tools, foundation models. we also have a big responsibility working with members of the interagency. this is providing safe and secure ai. model valuations. we were really pleased last week to submit to dhs our assessment of the sector risk management agency of the potential risks ai

poses to the electricity grid. >> that is a really great point at the end because none of u.s. departments are in a vacuum. you have entities you are responsible for. brian, i know the same thing for treasury with the financial services sector. they call out the expectation that you are going to do that work read hopefully can share with us how that is going. >> as far as the executive order , we were assigned to produce a report on ai for the financial sector. we really did this as part of a continuation of an effort we posted a year ago on cloud. we did that same model again. we started to talk to a bunch of different firms, financial firms, ai providers, other folks in the space to really kind of understand how ai is being used within the financial sector where a lot of the risk was about opportunities and how we

think about this space going forward. i think some of the key illusions we had which are not finalized yet, ai has been used in the financial sector for many years. one firm has been using it may be up to 50 years and we heard some other small firms that are just starting to think about it. so these type of models aro is helpful within firms to understand the risks they are having and how to address that. but ai really fits in that risk governance model. they don't see it as a large change from what it is. we always look back to this cyber framework. your biggest challenges always to identify how to make sure we are thinking about this. understanding how it may fit within their ecosystem going forward. as we are looking at this and continuing the conversation to understand what is being done in it? what are the challenges doing that? should we be working with industry to develop tools and

techniques to harness the energy better and prevent bad things from happening? how do we work with all of that together? that public-private partnership and that engagement strategy has been really helpful. that is why we are excited to be here to listen to other folks. the speakers here, the people in the audience, understanding what your risks and challenges are. this organization has always been something we have looked to to thing about leadership. when you have comments and thoughts, please pass them on as we are trying to do our job and develop policy to address these challenges. >> thanks. i want to come back to the governance points you are raising, but before you do that, it is not only brian r., there is a national security and law enforcement implication here as well. and a lot of what is in the guidance from the white house is about managing those risks to individuals and property and so on. i know the fbi has been doing a

lot of work in that regard. hopefully you can give us some of the latest on that. >> certainly. i would like to maybe highlight two activities demonstrating our activities under the executive order 5960 that have again shown value. the first activity is mapping risk to mitigation. the ai risk management framework. prior to that, we did a full on regulatory review on ethics and implementation. we grouped the risks and connected them to internal

processes and technological control. a concrete example of a process control that we have identified. it is probably a common one. the fbi must ensure that our employees are fully trained and have the proper agency to assume the overall consequences of any decision that is made with naia or tool. and so with that mapping as prerequisite, we then began the ai ethics council. this is patterned after a review board. for medical experimentations. we took great pains to ensure that the composition and expertise on that board reflects

the bureau widely and the american population. the ai ethics counsel is complementary to the risk profile that we have identified. every risk case is evaluated on the merit of its risk and this allows us a forum to dive deeper into the nuances of ai. this is explicitly where we can get into conversations about undesirable risk. in areas where ai in novel ways that traditional information technology systems do not. i feel that these two activities in concert with the totality of the fbi's ai response and i guess governance models have

been hugely successful. they have been implemented by fbi employees and subject matter experts. i attribute a lot of that success to the conversations they have been having with their fellow government players, academia, and the mystery -- the industry more broadly. thank you. gordon: thanks, brian. i think a lot of what you said tied back to your points about the importance of government, having an ethics counsel and risk profiles. one of the questions i have for you is how do you balance that with this desire for innovation for the mission people and you have mission responsibility to move forward as fast as possible, do not want to wait and say this technology will help us catch a bad guy or solve a financial rhyme or fix the climate and sustainability challenge tomorrow? we can't wait for the governance process. how are you balancing those engines? >> this is pretty exciting.

as we are building out a new field here, i have been the deputy chief ai officer and if you saw in the new york times this weekend, the highest job across is the new chief ai officer which means there will be a lot of new people showing up in this space who have not been trained in it because there is no training at on what a chief ai officer is. that will be interesting to figure out how we build these components out with the ability to understand the technology you are working on, understanding the mission you were working for , and making sure we tied that all together with the ethical issues another challenges we have. as the organization tries to deliver on its mission, you have to not slow it down, but jill build in the right efforts going forward. this goes into the whole education and hiring effort. i saw today dhs has 50 people who they are looking for in ai.

i'm not sure how many within treasury we will be hiring, but there are not a lot of folks out there. how do you make sure you were pulling in the right folks with the right skills to address that. how do we make sure this does not get out of control? you know that ai and other things can always go into a direction not originally intended to read that is where governance comes into it. how do we make sure all the different components within treasury are aligned. we have 13 different bureaus. that they are not coordinating so we are doing 13 times spend without the benefits we are getting for it. so understanding how to coordinate this is going to be really huge. how do we also work with our brethren in other departments and agencies like energy, fbi, and the like to understand how

they are looking at it to align resources even better. working with trade and other folks like the folks here today to understand, how are you looking at it? how do we take best practices and incorporate those into what we are doing to be able to make sure we are doing this the right way? governance is hard. nobody necessarily likes it, but if it is done correctly, the benefit is huge. we know omb has a draft memo out there. you may have already commented on it. if not, please do. it is still open. but making sure we are setting it up the right way. a lot of headaches for us in these positions, but the good headaches because hopefully we build out the effort so that the organization run better. gordon: i'm sure many of you in the audience help contribute to that guidance. there are lots of questions about intellectual property and ownership and how the government

is going to manage all of that. that certainly is an active area where you know everybody is interested if i could follow up on that. the question i think the from members of the public, how do we provide continuous and real-time feedback? it feels as though it is moving so quickly, technology is changing so weakly. >> part of my offices efforts for the last 22 years has been a public-private partnership. once the sector is doing it. we are highly dependent upon it. you can't run a bank without power. it doesn't work that way. how do we make sure we are engaged?

send us comments. we love to read and learn. austin back to understand it the right way to do it? it is new in most places. hopefully some of you have ai officers out there that we start to engage with. what are your best practices so i don't make this a mistake. what do you do right. this dialogue is going to be critical. iti is critical to that to make sure we are learning and understanding of the best way. over sharing is key to understand what is going on every of whatever we can do to get to a better spot is huge from our side. it is going to be a huge effort. not every sector will do this individually. we have to figure out how to do it best to get those economies of scale to build through and

get to the right spot. gordon: just so everybody knows, i did not prompt brian to say come to iti with feedback. unsolicited, but we thank you. i will go to the other brian and then helena. you are all sort of one person at the moment. there is a huge workforce implication to all of this. the executive order and the memo talk a lot about plans to build capacity, but it is early days. how do you think about expanding the workforce and bring in more people who don't just read an article about chatgpt or generative ai? what are you doing in the agency brian r.: we have programs to increase digital acumen the particular

recipient is the university education fund. these types of opportunities really need to be fully explored in a more wholesome and comprehensive manner. i recall even back to the 2021 commission on ai which really drove home the need i'm really hopeful that we are going to find some capacity in the future. gordon: you said your whole office is you and two fellows at the moment. [laughter]

maybe congresswoman lofgren or senator blackburn will realize that some appropriations are in order for helping to address these, but what are you doing? that is not tenable for long term. >> i would say i'm really fortunate to work with a full slew of technical experts across all of our programs. of course, the over 50,000 scientists are truly a resource for the nation. they are not all ai experts, but they don't need to be. we do have a tasking within the executive order. we are looking at building programs, expanding programs with the communities and the academic institution in their areas and seeing how we can ramp that up more. one thing i would add to all of this is people often associate

us with clean energy specifically and climate. i think the thing that i would really like to share is that we have so much enabling infrastructure. to solve today and the future. both from the computing that we have. it is second-most energy efficient. it is something we have tried to couple through our partnerships. i think this is a resource we should be able to use in aid of the nation. gordon: how does industry find out about those things. you visited some companies about those things.

what do we do collectively to close that down. helena: i feel like it is my personal responsibilities to be leveraging this for the greater community. d.o.e. is very deeply interested in these areas and the energy efficiency that will need to underpin a lot of this future work. in terms of how people find out about it, we are also tasked to develop partnerships with industry in the academia to build some of these tools, to leverage our computing facilities to be able to push the frontiers of this field further. gordon: i'm sure people here would have lots of interest to help doing that. people from oak ridge would have to come sell to individual agent, we have a computer. do you guys have any uses for it

i know there have to be better ways. brian, i would like to ask you the same question. you are doing this external facing research right now and making import, but what can industry be doing to find out what is going on treasury engaging with them? brian p.: we have the federal private-public partnership. we encourage every financial institution to engage with that and work that partnership model to understand what the challenges are, what they are seeing with the solutions they may have to be able to help. you can always call us directly. we are doing our 150 day report. we are getting best information

from folks within the sector. what we have to keep doing is listening more. solutions are going to come out. how do we make that an environment that is comfortable with that discussion? the report we did on cloud, we did not cite anybody with it. we heard a lot of negative things that they had addressed. that is our goal, to really make that a safe environment to share that information. one thing to add generally is i have to get smarter on this too. things that you find her helpful that you use within your day to be able to make sure you understand this. we get smarter on that stuff. some are highly scientific papers. whatever those are.

the more conversations we can have that identify the things to help us get smart across the board is going to be helpful. i don't have time to go through every scientific publication, but i know a lot of people in this scouter reading stuff and say, this is much better than this other one. send that over to iti to be able to say, here is something we found that is helpful so we start that conversation and the more we can build that in and use you as a sounding board to get to us the right information, hopefully we will be in a better spot. hopefully, we get all invited back next year and we will be able to say, this is what we learned over the last year. is this the right stuff? are these the challenges you are seeing? and then be able to focus on that conversation. to have that conversation over and over again. here are the things that are helpful. that feedback is going to be critical.

how do we use the opportunities to get better? gordon: thanks, brian. we only have a few seconds left, but one of the questions that that all bags and it is great to hear that and if you are going to disclose report results, you are welcome to come back and do that here, but one of the challenges for us and for member companies and industry's treasury has their approach for that engagement and outreach and energy has there were roach. -- their approach. helena, how do you think industry should be thinking about interacting across all those agencies as well? [laughter] helena: certainly, associations are one way. if there are things we should be considering, we are happy to hear it. gordon: you heard it there.

helena willie for phone number and email address another way out. [laughter] and feel free to contact her. we are out of time and we will yield the stage to the next panel. thank you. [applause] ♪ >> please welcome iti's executive vice president the policy for a discussion with senator marsha blackburn. [applause] >> i'm honored to be joined on

the stage with senator marsha blackburn who represents the state of tennessee. she is in a powerhouse set of committees in the senate including the finance committee, the commerce committee, the judiciary committee, and the veterans affairs committee. i had an opportunity to testify against -- at a committee and we talked about how to increase transparency in artificial intelligence systems. senator blackburn has been a leader in pro-innovation policy for all technology and in particular for artificial intelligence and for quantum computing. i want to start there with ai. there has been vigorous activity on the hill. there have been a series of ai insights, discussions, and the two committees you serve on have done a lot of due diligence in the area of artificial intelligence. based on the discussions you have had, at this point, what do you think it is congress can do to promote a pro-innovation

artificial intelligence agenda for the united states so it continues to lead the world? sen. blackburn: that is exactly what we should be doing is realizing that congress will create the environment for jobs growth and innovation. we need to be certain we do not legislate to a technology, but focus more on the utilization and use of that technology. that is the mindset that we should go into this with. and i have been so pleased that we have been able to have some hearings, judiciary committee has been very active. commerce committee. we even had a veterans affairs hearing. rob: i missed that one. sen. blackburn: on the utilization of ai and what it could do.

we have a relationship of the good, the bad, the ugly when it comes to ai. then you look at entertainment and we have issues around name, image, and likeness. my hope is we focus on the environment, we put the guardrails in place and we realize that if we are not allowing innovation, china is. rob: we talk about having a tech neutral framework. sen. blackburn: that's right. rob: you touched on these many industries, tennessee is a leader in transportation, health care for many years, increasingly in telecommunications.

of course the wonderful artists that do the performing and the songwriting in tennessee will certainly be able to use artificial intelligence. i want to bring you to another technology that we touched on briefly in the program today and that is quantum information sciences and quantum computing. i know that oak ridge national lab is a leader and you have taken a keen interest in this. what is the promise for tennessee down the road? sen. blackburn: yes indeed, oak ridge has the world's fastest computer. we like to take a little victory lap on that one and celebrate it. what we have seen is one of our cities, chattanooga, tennessee, that is in close proximity to oak ridge has focused on quantum. chattanooga is a very innovative

city and they focused on broadband acceleration, fixed wireless broadband, and enabling innovators to be there. they actually have a city quantum initiative. i did a quantum roundtable this summer and it was actually fascinating because of that. we have a couple of bills we are pushing in the commerce committee. the quantum initiative needs to be reauthorized. in order to move forward and senator ray luján and i have a quantum sandbox bill that would allow that innovation that needs to take place. to be able to move from r&d into commercialization.

how we build these quantum systems so that there can be a more widespread commercial use. likewise, there is a second bill we are working on that deals with testbeds and making sure we have the testbeds that will be in a classified setting or a commercial setting. we want to make sure we do our part in creating that wraparound and that environment so that we can keep that innovation here. so that we can know that there will be a support system to elevate that technology. rob: you are being prescriptive

and a narrow way to make the use -- best use of taxpayer dollars when you set up these public-private partnerships and framework for innovation to make sure that is transferred in a smart way with the private sector leading a lot of those initiatives for success down the road. sen. blackburn: that's right and we want to make certain that they are doing that. when we look at what is happening in the military space, we need to look at those partnerships and how we do security clearances space forces going to be an area on quantum and ai. when you talk about next generation warfare and generative ai and some of the applications that can be there, be utilized, so yes, it is

important for us to think forward on that. rob: we are glad you are there doing it. tax policy. tech companies to get what they need to go and scaling up invest more in r&d from their base revenues than any other sector of the economy. we need good tax policy. last week, the house passed the bill that includes immediate r&d expensing. how would you prognosticate the future in the area of tax relief this year? sen. blackburn: we anticipate this piece of legislation that moved from the house and senate will come to us at finance committee.

everyone agrees it is vitally important to do for people that are innovative in this space. we have such a short window and a lifecycle for many of these technology applications. you need to be generous in allowing them these rmd credits. and this expensing, this immediate expensing, because they are going to be in to the next iteration and we need to keep that. it doesn't matter if it is quantum or ai, that structure

needs to be there. on ai, let me say this. some of you are focused on what will happen with the entertainment industry and senator kunz and i filed a bill with klobuchar and tillis adorning us -- joining us in it and it is called no fakes to put in place the protections for name, image, likeness, and voice when it comes to ai to be certain we protect the creative community. you've got chairman cantwell working on some ai bills. you will see other components that are going to come from judiciary that will focus on protecting intellectual property. so that you have the right to benefit from the work that you do.

getting the patent and copyright those are all in our bucket of bills. rob: sounds like that will be a very active legislative agenda. sen. blackburn: we want to hear from you. rob: well as i mentioned, our time is at an end, i just wanted to ask the audience to join me in thanking you for being such a leader for innovation and championing american innovation, as well as joining us today. sen. blackburn: thank you it is my pleasure. thanks a lot. [applause] ♪

vice president of the americas

vice president at cisco. [applause] >> i was wondering if you would applaud so thank you for that. good afternoon. our purpose is to power and inclusive future for all. a technology based solutions drive the ability to address critical challenges and communities, power hybrid work, transform infrastructure and cities you to secure the networks that run it all to ensure they can be deployed it takes forward thinking policies that foster innovation and emerging digital technologies. no matter how remote with the networks that bind to the the se channels of communications openness and competition or a world where ai propels us forward and does so responsibly

they emerge as foundational pillars shaping our society, economy and governance. to fulfill the potential of this moment right to size investments in government policy and research innovation security and procurement should lead the way. at the heart of this critical discourse is the federal communications commission and its pivotal role shaping with innovation inclusion and investment are also ensuring the transparency and accountability where the challenges are significant as the opportunity as the fcc has a lot on its plate and knows that this new chapter requires more foresight, collaboration and most of all a balanced approach.

to have access to affordable service as we work to propel the program forward to help the schools and libraries get affordable servicing secure telecommunications and internet access and as we work to cement the global competitiveness by freeing up spectrum of fostering spectrum sharing and accelerating research development the fcc has been and will continue to be a critical partner that's why it is my honor to introduce to the intersect stage the commissioner anna gomez a trailblazer in the telecommunications policy world playing pivotal roles in key public sectors and commissioner

gomez brings a deeply personal commitment to bridging the digital divide in advocating for high-speed broadband accessibility for every person in every community regardless of geography or income. the leadership of the federal level ranges from issues as diverse as public safety communications to international spectrum negotiations. the technology challenges facing the united states will you all please join me in providing a warm welcome to the intersect stage commissioner anna gomez? [applause]

let's pretend this is your first time in front of an audience of technology professionals. i'm sure it's not but we love having you here and appreciate. your arrival was eagerly anticipated might be an understatement. you filled out the commission and are joining a majority of. i want to start because everybody here whether they know it or not has issues before the fcc. why you assumed this role the role of the fcc and the role that you would play as a commissioner and what your priorities are, tell us what it's meant to you coming into this office? >> thank you again for having me and i want to point out that i've known you for almost 30 years that i've been and i'm just delighted to see how well you are doing.

i would like to talk about my regulatory philosophy which i'm still finessing so i have a bit to go but overarching lay, i want to ensure competition drives vibrant innovation for the good of consumers. what that means is ensuring the users in the united states are connected to high-speed broadband and that it's affordable and means having beans havingspectrum for new ane services. ensuring public safety has the resources it needs to meet its mission and also that consumers have access to services that make them safe as well. on the media cited means protecting localism and making sure that we have diversity and

competition in the media marketplace. i particularly want to make sure that we take all of our actions of keeping in mind how it affects historically underrepresented communities and so that's basically in a package where i come from. let me ask about a couple of issues that you've mentioned in that framework one is spectrum and another is affordable access to broadband, both very much in the news largely through no fault of the commission but through some action or inaction is better to describe and issues ranging from disputes on how much broadband connectivity we

should have as we take off from the runway and a lot of issues in between that and at a high level, what are some of the things you would like them to pay attention to in the spectrum debates and what's coming up at the fcc or what should we be urging congress to do to make sure the spectrum is unlocked for the best uses. >> there's been this amazing thirst for spectrum for new and innovative services and it's not slowing down. if there is a constant search for finding ways to repurpose the spectrum. there's a lot of different services that rely on the spectrum from the normal mobile

broadband now to satellites, science issues. i just got back from dubai. i was there for the first week of the confidence where all of the issues were front and center and one of the items because the fact that we are looking at a framework for allocating spectrum and how will be allocated for these particular uses so spectrum is a big deal and i'm glad you raised to the authority. the pioneered options as a way to efficiently assign spectrum licenses and it is a much faster

process in the traditional during a beauty contest between the different license applicants and because the authorization expired and congress hasn't reauthorized it there's a lot of work the commission cannot do in order to prepare for additional spectrum and every day that goes by that we don't have that authority it's going to put us further and further behind in terms of new licenses for new services. >> you mentioned the importance of those two license use of spectrum mobile broadband that we all rely on from different providers so i want to ask about that balance and how you are looking at the need to make sure that innovation we all benefit from ranging from garage door

openers and baby monitors and everything in between how do you view the role in terms of allocating the license and unlicensed to make sure there's innovation in both areas? we need to find the appropriate balance and they did to take action when it allocated the van which was unprecedented to have that much spectrum allocated and larger bandwidth unlicensed. that was one of the items we did very well at the communication conference that remained for the wi-fi services which is important not just because they are bringing in the next generation of wi-fi that needs to keep up with of the

high-bandwidth broadband but also because it's so important to maintain for equipment making it lower cost and more deployed so very pleased with the outcome of the good work the delegation did at the wrc. >> which is something since the president plucked you from one role where you were heavily involved to another where you are still heavily involved i'm sure that was particularly pleasing to see that work continue. you also mentioned broadband as part of your portfolio on board at the commission. the news of this week is the potential end of a very important program that made affordable broadband available to address that digital divide and i think the commissioner has announced that tomorrow is an

unfortunate milestone should congress not act between now and tomorrow which is probably unlikely what should we be thinking about the importance of that program and other programs that congress may or may not move forward and what should we be asking congress to do to continue to address the digital divide? >> so glad you raised this question and i do hope that congress passes the current a bipartisan bill that has been dropped to provide funding to extend the programs. it provides support to close to 23 million households nationwide all over the country, rural, tribal, everywhere. of these are folks that qualify under the program and we believe we will run out of funding sometime at which point there

will be no more support for these households. i'm very concerned about it for some reasons we want to make sure every user is connected. it's so important for participation and society and our economy. it's important for finding a job, applying to college, doing homework, doing remote school, telehealth, seniors. it is central to our lives now that of those who cannot to be connected are going to fall further and further behind. for me though i also want to make it clear there is broad thd effects on the economy because you don't know what kind of innovation you're going to bring from that one student who would not have that connection but somehow is able to create some

type of online product that becomes the next, i don't know, google. also telehealth reduces the cost to medicare and medicaid by 23%. the majority of subscribers are seniors in high costs to serve. for that reason they tend to be higher priced despite the universal service goals and we need to make sure that the companies that are providing the services are able to continue to provide the services in addition to spending tens of billions of dollars throughout every corner of america we need to make sure that those are sustainable without subscribers they won't

necessarily be sustainable so we are looking at you downstream affect losing the support for 23 million households that could have a significant effect on the economy. >> it would be good to see congress take some action there and a lot of communities i think close to half of the program participants are military as well so definitely important for the nation. want to ask about two other areas important to the tech industry that they've recently stepped back to and one is cybersecurity and the trustmark. i was pleased to participate and we will hear later who convened the group at the white house the fcc and power to to move that forward so tell me about this later security efforts and how important you think those are. >> i'm very excited about the

trustmark. if they put out another proposed rulemaking that would create much like the energy star logo that means that it makes standards for cyber hygiene and it also had a qr code to find out more about the manufacturing of the product itself and how secure it is. i think it could become a real competitive edge if it is adopted widely innovative consumers actually accept it as something that is trustworthy. i'm excited about the industry is excited about the trustmark and i think that it could be a good public-private partnership between the fcc and manufacturers to lead to better

cyber outcomes. it's a voluntary program so what you want is to be market driven and to make sure that it succeeds through wide deployment. >> we look forward to helping support that program and it is as you said a competitive differentiator for companies to use to inform consumers about the care they take with the manufacturing of the deployment of products. the last technology question, not surprisingly given what we've been talking about all day, ai. we've seen fcc engagement with aia in the headlines this week helping track down a robo call callerwho enabled ei to be usedo spoof the president in a political primary. ..

when you and i were baby lawyers back in the day at. [laughter] i think there are several ways we are looking at ai. both its benefits and its risks. and in addition to looking at it how it encourages robocalls or can be used for robocalls to mitigate against robocalls and robotech looking for an accessibility point of view lot of work being done with ai and speech recognition the advisory council is looking as a working group on ai. the potentials and risks with ai.

the chairwoman to announce she circulated and voted to approve a declaratory ruling that artificially or faked of voices using artificial intelligence are covered under the telephone consumer protection act. they are prohibited without prior consent. this will help ensure consumers are not subject to fraud. and really harassment through these terrible robocalls and robotech strip. in addition there is a lot of talk about looking at it for classroom management. there is a lot of good and interesting uses for artificial intelligence that i think we are going to see develop more and more. and of course we need to be careful about the risks and make sure it's used responsibly.

but how industry can help, for me i've been on a mission to educate myself as much as possible on ai because i'm not an expert. i just went to a conference this weekend one of the professors said that professors like to say i don't know anything about this, but. [laughter] and i want to stop having to say i don't know anything about this, but. >> look forward to helping on the educational mission we are so lucky the president picked you to fill this role at the commission please join me in thanking fcc commissioner ana gomez. [applause] [background noises] ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ ♪ please welcome claire ceo salesforce ai global technology correspondent at alex rios. ♪ hello everyone. everyone here has been drowning and ai hype for a year now. it's going to save and revolutionize the world at its winter revolutionize the world and kill us all. i don't remind either i want us to stop in some real practical round and how people are practically using a isa maybe kick us off our vulgar thousands of clients what are some of the surprising ways and uses you have seen? >> what a fascinating time. i feel like it's 1998 for ai.

we are starting to simple use cases but so much of the potential and some of the risks are still to come. it's her tremendous learning moment for everyone whether you're in the public sector, private sector academe is an exciting time for there is tremendous opportunity for ai to really benefit all kinds of people from around the world and certainly in our country. we are very fortunate to be in a pole position in america when it comes to ai. in terms of what we're seeing we are seeingfrom customers andy interesting reverie enterprise customer and small businesses were hearing everyone start the same question which is how do i trust her generative ai? both from data privacy and security since as well as ethics as well as understanding this a black box input generates an output given ai and generative ai in particular is not

deterministic it is statistical. the same exempt prompt you put in can output something different every simple time you ask it. so that's a new paradigm for software it's a new paradigm for technology that everyone is going to have to get used to. the number one question is trust. this also happens to be our company's number one value. how we engineer trust into the product and help our customers deploy ai in a safe and secure way that respects their data privacy and security? that is number one. the number two question is companies felt underwhelmed by the earlier investments in the last big trend around the blockk chain and the meta- verse. so this time around in the economic environment every ceo what is the business case for ai? brennan, training on the