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we want, we want to welcome great champion for our broad bands, for competition who served on committees of significant importance to our industry, on both on the technology, internet, all of the infrastructure. she serves on the commerce committee, judiciary committee -- education? agriculture. >> it's like a quiz. >> is t c broadband caucus and the senate rules committee. how could i forget? but she is you know an important most important debates facing our country and our industry, and so we're very thankful that she has come today to give a keynote and to talk

about the issues of most importance to all of us in this room. so with no further ado, senator amy klobuchar, thank you for coming. [applause] >> okay. well, thank you, everyone and it's wonderful to be here and get off the field for a little bit, i will say. there's a lot going on as you know we are not inown, or i might not be able to be here. we also have been working on the budget somewhat apropos of our topic at hand of competition. i been working to try to make sure that the antitrust division of justice, , which is not the topic of my talk today, gets funded as we believe senator grassley and i believe it would be with the merger of the change that we passed on something like 88-eight vote. if you only getions of their,

and so we've been working about some technical language that's in there here it all sounds really small ball but it's really a ball. and so we have been trying to get trees and talk a little bit about all the work that you are doing and wha be done to expand and to make sure that we have strong competition in america. and want to thank chip and angie for inviting me, and i know there's reps from great plains communications and metronet here. where are you guys? summer. there. of course minnesota's in the back. humble humble. thank you so much. i did notice they were the audience members that were nodding when i started out, thank you. so just so some of you know, my street cred still be here is ia. i was actually in the private sector for 14 years.

that's part of why i really care about competition. and one of my first big clients was mci. actually changed law firms to keep representing them when there was a conflict. their wor. back then they were a really scrappy company. the federal law was in the midst of getting pt taking on the bell monopolies at the time to get into the market. the case had been don but it was a time where they were actually doing the work. and i was loved some of the regulatory hearings which were maybe a little monday sometimes but i remember about when alexander graham bell, the first were decent as we all know when we got the telephone was come here, watson, i need you. right? that was a fuzzy set on the telephone. at the hearings i note that in the wild west world of mci when they were getting ready to

relate the first communication between st. louis and chicago, the investor erwin hirsch memorialized that great moment not exactly with connie watson i need you, but these words, i'll be damned. it actually works. know that mar companies and people you work with might feel the same way when new discoveries are made,, when new innovations are made but the really drove me, that work with mci which i loved and started doing work for them all i became a prosecutor. it really, it drove me big believer in competition policy because i saw what happened when i got in the market. i also represent macaca medications by the way and has a blue see how that really spawned cell phone market, right? before when they with the big bricks like the phone in wall street and how it brought down long-distance charges in a big way. that's what you wonder why kick

and obsessed with making sure we still of competition in tech in the fields and w broadband people can access them, it is really driven from that experience and from seeing what it means when weition. i'm also a big believer in capitalism. i believe one of the ways you do that is, i make sure your guided thereby enforcement of our competition laws. it was one of grandfathers of capitalism who said yes, beware, i want to get the words right here, , beware the unbridled por of monopolies. and we got remember that as■w ao forward. i actually wrote a book on all of this. it was called the antitrust, if remember, during the presidential campaign. my friend pete buttigieg, we truly are friends, we go back and forth a little bit in the

debates, and since we're on superue i may as will commemorate that moment, one of the more amusing things is when we got done with the campaign pete wrote a "new york times"■ best-selling book called trust, not to be outdone wunderlich i came up with my own two weeks on the noontime bestseller list book, antitrust. [laughing] that is actually true story. i want to talk about first of all incompas, your members have beenreat parer digital divide ad bring fast, affordable, reliable and competitive high-speed internet access to every household and mobile phone in america. your work is the bedrock of our digital economy, and we all know that you can't participate in 2024 in the marketplace if you can't get online. it's about education. it's about healthcare. i visit all 87 counties in minnesota every year, some counties are so small i know

every single person in the county, but it also does a lot hospitals including just about last month winners of four hockey days, all another store in waroa there's never been a gold medal men's hockey team in the olympics without a player from not just minnesota, from account of 1500 people were road minnesota. and went to some hospitals near their and the use of they are vs phenomenal because they have realized a lot of their seniors some of this came out of the pandemic are much better off accessing from home nearned to r coming into more likely into the hospital, their rural hospital. they set it up. because the primary doctor there, that's clinic, its clinics attached to the hospital and then they get a doctor from mail or someone else who talks them through what's going on. this is just an increasing use

of technology -- mayo -- some of the last mile areas i would say that m internet. and you see this with mental health care. the wazoo. all of the innovation going on that is a must for these areas for not going to be able to have a doctor with every specialty have mental health provider. it's a game changer but it's not going to exist with the head if they don't have high-speed. i remember several hearings, i used examples of why we need high-speed to every household. my favorite was one of my colleagues i always use this example, i commit the mom of a high school kid who had to do all of his college exams in a liquor store parking lot. it's a true story, right? i don't know if you want to keep talk about that kid going in the liquor store. unlike know, that was the only place that had high-speed. no, they just didn't get it because i don't think of of rural areas. these are true stories of what goes on. the doctors who sit in the

mcdonald's parking lot reading x-rays. so that was wig believer in the bipartisan infrastructure law. i do want to thank my colleagues who worked on it. i worked on the broadband part because of the debt deal with clyburn but the group the work on, , i mentioned that today because senator sinema has announced today she's not running again and i just want to say thank you to her for her work on that agreement and negotiating including this latest agreement where i worked extensively with her trying to help my afghan refugees, the 80,000 people who are here that are interpreters the worked with our troops that are still in limbo, and she worked really hard to include that in the border bill. it got included and then unfortunately that part of it we will see another day i hope because really important part but it's just an example of the work she does every single day. so the bipartisan infrastructure law younow, it makes sense to me that we go those extra last

miles. i've some counties in my s that maybe 20% don't have high-speed. i look at it having visited iceland went and saw that they the best high-speed internet next to spewing volcanoes, maybe just maybe we can get it on the canadian border where there's like no hills at all. so those are some of the things that really motivated me to get involved in this. you know the investment we see in states across the country, and also making it more affordable that program is already empowered over 20 million american households to get ]v online. including 218,000 in my state, but who's counting? other things that i've worked on and believe in when it comes to fair com÷:peti neutrality. since the communication act was enacted in 1934 congress always intended for the fcc to have the

authority to ensure americans have reliable and state-of-the-art communication service. as you know way back that meant telephone. now it means broadband. for years net neutrality divided the framework just do just that. it held large internet providers accountable for providing the connection consumers expect while promoting investments in next-generation broadband networks. it's also a reason one of the reasons the inee one of the great american success stories transforming not only how we communicate also the way companies do business, how consumers buyoo how we educate our kids. unfortunately, from my perspective, it was repealed in 2018. and i going to have to focus in that area and make sure that everyone is going to be able to access the internet on affordable basis, spatial with ai coming along. i'll get to that in a moment.

there's just a reason we want to make sure it continues to be accessible. i'm glad this last year the fcc took the first steps toward restoring net neutrality, , andi lo the commission along with business leaders from across the telecom sector to make sure a fair and open internet. next up, privacy. i have always found that to be one of the more ironic things. i don't think you thought i would say that, in the lobbying world of washington, d.c. in that when i first got to the senate no one really wanted to ha privacy law but companies were lobbying against it. it's kind of an instructive for just kind of giving a little at the beginning and maybe that's a good way to be because it was all this lobbying against it and then you know what happens, right? we see it happen and then t the void and so then one state think something is okay, that's okay, another state to something

you hate, no, increasing patchwork of laws. sonata number of the same companies are saying we need a federal privacy law, which i believed all along. i'm still hopeful, i'm on senator cantwell ill. there's a number of other proposals way back. i had a proposal with senator kennedy on these lines lit hope we are able to reach some kind of agreement so that we have a federal privacy law like so many other countries have. it would jusnt make it a lot easier for everyone other things along these lines that i just hopeful we can move on, very the internet. you know we had that rather famous hearing recently, and i am myself i'm sort of done with the throwing the popcorn at people and i think we need to actually legislate and get something done. i think onehb of the issues thas so challenging for families with the internet right now is yes, what's on it on the platforms in terms of what the kids can see,

and the need to do everything we can to help those parents be parents. i'm glad we're going to empower them with better tools and the like but i do get sometimes just relying on it as the postage is trying to get the stuff off of their and monitor better through technology would be better. one mom told me she knows there's all these controls but she has three kids and every ong on one platform, then another thing, the kid gets around it and then just to have older kids try to teach the younger kids what to do and she just gets fined she said it's just reminder like there's a a bigk in front of her and its overflowing all the time and teachers out there with a m try to clean it up, those were her words, not mine. and i think we just have to remember that as we look at howe actually going to work so that these kids don't get exposed to

really dangerous content. it's one of the reasons i'm reve issue in some of the issues with dr. singh where kids think their has tricked them into sending a naked picture. we've had 15 suicides according to the fbi of kids just this year, and that we jt needis is e fentanyl laced pills, 30% of people that have exposure to fentanyl, we will have to do something on this kids front in addition to the privacy law and to be go into somewhat other stuff, go to talk about today on competition. at all of this, just think putting our heads in the sand because the privacytuff is probably a great example of that, if you wait so long and you do nothing, and that's what senator schumer and young and heinrich and rounds are trying to move on a eye. not just a cohesive federal

policy. that's why on ai i think we did some rules of the road. so i'm one of the few senators that attended nearly every session, , i had a near perfect attendance■ record of the meetings that they had on ai. and maybe because of my background, the work i've done with tact and appreciated that a number of the companies have come forward and said we want to have some rules of the road in place when it comes to ai. and as you know we had been working with them as well as consumer groups, nonprofit groups and the like to get those agreements. first and foremost, senator thune and i, neighbors in minnesota and south dakota,e' me introduced kind of a base bill for non-securitñ>y ai, would bes for the federal government when it comes to number of companies

and groups have endorsed this bill. we non-security topics into two areas. one is is high impact, things that could be more dangerous like critical infrastructure, criminal justice, biometric identification, if a power grids using ai to improve efficiency we need to make sure the systems undergo rigorous testing. so put some higher standard on some of those uses of ai. and then a second group is the ones may be health care, education when we task mr. pak which is widely believed to be the one that could do this with developing some of the standard -- with nist dash instead of expecting agencies will go off on their own pickup talk better federal agencies that seems a a little scary. so the idea that nist woulde wok at nist. i'm kidding. he works at an agency.

up first. other things. voice scams primarily concern about this at protecting peoplez identities and voices in general. i was just meeting with our veterans groups on this, and actually my state director at home her son is in the marines and at the time they got this call he was deployed and they did nowhere. it were not supposedo nowhere,, and they get this call, her husband who is a recently retired reporter, and gets a call and its and their sons voice. it's beencraped off the internet and says dad, dad, i'm in trouble, i need your help, need your help. i think it was a grapple or if it was someone that was more naïve than the somewhat cynical reporter, i think it might've fallen for it but he immediately starts saying where are you? how can you be calling the? and then hung up. and so that is just one example and a talk to other families that are seen this so the

scraped his voice off the tern a were probably trying to suck the pair into sending money, which is what we've seen in a lot of places. so senator collins and i have teamed up to call the ftc and the fcc to raise awareness and preventi voice calling scans. i think see more of this last thing i've been really focusing my work on ai and all of these things i hope will b included in this base framework of yet, you see them going to start talking about democracy -- [laughing] and okay, there we go, thank you, russia. that's nice. [laughing] okay. so this is going to be like hair on fire problem if we don't do something about it. i believe fcc is going to try to use with the camp of their laws, and they have traditionally been pretty dysfunctional. they have been doing a few more things on a bipartisan basis

lately with some of the newer people we put on. i chair the rules committee, its inner jurisdiction. so i'm hopeful they will step up in some way. you will receive fcc and others, but the best thing would be as if we put in some clear roles in law when it comes to our election. and what we've seen so far is disturbing. new hampshire primary in january, fake robocalls using the president's voice to tell people not to vote. we now know that came out of a democratic campaign, although the candidate was not aware. won't say who it is. they hired a magician and he talked, i don't know. but that is a very kind of lukewarm little example, , but just put it out where there's actual major forces trying to do this in aig way. and you could literally trick after voter after voter into thinking it is your own

candidate last year, one republican presidential candidate released false ai generated images of former president trump hugging dr. fauci. viral video of what appears to be my colleague elizabeth warren where she basically says republicans shouldn't be allowed to vote. people thought it was. this is not ai but if you don't believe me how bad this is going to ago, or two weeks ago if you solve the horrific shooting, the murder of the two police officers in minnesota, they were kille they rescued seven kids. think of the kids out of the house and then they were shot the paramedic that went in, , rn into rescue them was doing cpr was also killed. well, a few days after that, photo goes out on the internet and it was a true picture of me at a rally, at a political rally keith ellison was in the photo. we actually have the picture

í>whh things happen. and someone, and actually think it is for and interest based on the tax i've had on my aocacy but they put defund the police signs in the hands of everyone there. i was strongly against defund the police. i read the bill for cops funding and the senate the cops bill. but that thing went viral and finally had to call x and facebook and actually we could show the actual photo which is st people end up with altered cotton, false content. there were some articles written and it basically went away. but that's just one example of that using ai, of the pure evil of what we are going to come out of this when it comes to democracy. so that isd because of my role h the rules committee. the first is to go after the really bad stuff, the deepfake we call it. that bill i have with josh

hawley, and it actually bands the deepfakes. it has exceptions for things like satire. we've had it reviewed by democratic and republican lawyers, susan collins -- i iw your face over there.susan colls well as many, many democrats, supported by democrats. rickets is on the people realize people can mess around with this on both sides if we don't have some clear rules in place. the other bill, it's yvette clarke spill. also worked on a bipartisan one right now with some other senators that i did mention but that is a labeling bill, right? not like every little thing you use ai four, which is a problem. we had a hearing on and i kind of thought you don't want to like you change the color a ai. it's going to make it meaningless as a label. we are trying to capture that middle ground for things thatift

the deepfakes to put the labeling on it. that is another bill that will be introduced i believe soon similar that clark has done a lot of work in the house. just wanted to let you know i don't mean a bigger one thing on your mind to think it will become just with a huge effing deal if we do not get ahead of it. and get somhing books that which will enable the platform to say no, we're taking this down because. no, you have to have a label on this because, because a you know i'm not telling you a secret in the area politics, if they start going off and just making up their own stuff they may have to do if they won't have choice, it's much better if it is submitted in legislation of what the rules of the road should be. so those are some of things tha, i'm working on right now, but i'm really excited in my own state just of the expansion of high-speed. we have already seen what that

means for people. i'm a big believer that if you grew up in rural minnesota you should be able to live i small d that's that can happen if you don't have access to high-speed internet. so for those of you on that area of work, i to thank you. for those of you in the kind of tech provider side, thank you for all the great innovations that you have given us. and i'm just hopeful we are going to be able to come up with some rules of the road that actuallyorhen it comes to the children's issues that i mentioned, privacy, and when it comes to competition policy or news organizations. there's just a lot of the things that in sitting there waiting for action, and i just think it's time to kind of find some kind of move ahead, and hopefully ai will go out the first because we have to do that immediately and can be a model for us getting

ahead of things instead of simply saying oh, we've gone years now, companies are no longer little startups in a garage, like every medical device company in minnesota starts in a garage. and at what it was going to do? we don't have any rules in justd way to run a railroad. someone who strongly believes in competition and capitalism, i want it to thrive in one way it thrives as if we have rules so people feel good about the businesses that they work with and you don't get ripped off and they don't have bad stuff happen and the kids don't get addicted to fentanyl. i could could go on and on. but we've got to just try to do better. i wrote a book actually, i'll end with this, in the last year that was maybe not so aptly just so suitable for our time. actually came out on the same, it was announced the same day

that bernie's book was announced in my book is called the joy of politics and bernie's book is called it's okay to be angry at capitalism. true story. so this was at the end of not this year the end of last year, and so i was desperately trying to get that afghan refugee bill i just told you about done back then. lindsey graham was my lead author and it's got you know, ricker a deal to the military to get this done. i just couldn't get attached to anything about just getting madder and madder and getting this way and obsay. ernie can't come up to me on the floor and going, where's the joy? i don't see the joy. [laughing] so i hope i answered some of this for you today. there is a joy in supporting the great work that you do. there is joy in trying to find common ground because courage is a longer just stand in an empty senate chamber and scream at people. courage is whether or not you

willing to stand next the people you don't always agree with for the betterment of this country. i hope you take those words and that joy with you, and i'm going thank you, everyone. [applause] >> there and hope still in congress. we are thankful for senator klobuchar, our work, her commitment to competition and were very thankful that she came to share all all of theh us today. our next speaker is going to be another tremendous policymaker and leader, congresswoman doris matsui. i don't know if she's here -- here she is. now, we going to set up our chairs, doors, and then we will

have the conversation. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations]

>> could i have everyone's attention? today, i set out on a marathon race to make tremendous speakers and panels, and i want to thank you for, one, your work in congress, two, for this is the second year in a row that you've come to our policy summit.ntly l your good work in the energy, on the energy and commerce committee as the ranking member of the subcommittee that has all of our member companies your

thoughtful leadership, your good relationships across the aisle and this is kind of a critical time where the midst of modernizing every single network from copper to fiber, wireless to 5g, low-earth orbit satellites, technologies come into the marketplace. our technology and internet companies have just had the commci introduction of generative ai applications. a lot is happening and you are in the midst of everything. i'd like to ask you to start, you've been a great leader on spectrum policy, the wireless deployments over all the different years. you have a great staffern flynn tell me what you think

about the spectrum strategy that ntia has done but more impornt o give auction authority to the fcc? >> well, thank you very much, skip. you know, i really feel that you were one of the reasons why i like to come here. you know, he's really wonderful as you all know. i remember you in the house pick you were always somebody who was easy to work with. and in technology basically it's not really political. many ttúim it might be regional but on it's not political to a degree. and we find common ground probably much meas but i must say that this is an interesting time. but we say that about almostow. because we are at a moment in time when things have so drastically changed. i think particularly since we all experienced the horrible

pandemic. people started thinking a little bit differently, and young people in particular a looking at the things that we do all the time in much more different ways. and more advanced than we are. they understand these things much more quickly. they pick up these devices and they know what to do. they exploit. sometimes the export much more than we want them to explore and then we have to get involved. but i must say that it is a thrilling time, too. i don't know whether i can bring joy as senator klobuchar says, but i really feel thats particular area of technology as it impacts everything in our lives is is such an interesting place to be. there's nothing that technology does not impact. i think that is thrilling but i also believe it is really challenging, too. in many days try to look at

various things that might impact various sectors and he it geo be overwhelming. but we have to be engaged. the world is moving so quickly. i know we're talking spectrum. most people used to think what spectrum? what's spectrum? but now more people know what spectrum is, and we're trying to do with it. obviously we don't like the fact that the spectrum authority has lapsed. that's not a good thing and it's been almost a year and we do so. it is unconscionable. it affects innovation. global leadership. it affects everything we tried to do. it's very fundamental. and i have to say that what's happened with, i have hope though, because with a nationale president memorandum we have a

way to actually start doing things. and because i've always said that when it comes to spectrum governments, the united states has to speak with one voice, particularly today. we don't need to have a whole cacophony of different voices. and i believe that's what the president memorandum has done. i mean, what's trying to virtually tied to bring, and power ntia to really bring the federal agencies together, to really look at what we do with the spectrum we have available to maximize its use. it's very limited. and then with the national spectrum strategy is to look at what might be available there and really looking be really, really ready for some sort of use, right? so with the two of them i think we have a lot of opportunity to move forward.

i like the fact that we are now looking at this as being something that is so ior us thag our way into it right now. and my understanding there with the implementation soon, this month, at least some kind of strategy or plan moving forward which will really help us particularly as we move forward. so that as being a very positive. and obviously we are hoping that we can do anything we can tore e get off the dime on some of these things, the lower three. and the chairman and i've written both dod and ntia to say let's figure out where you are. would like to be engaged as much as possible. this is a time that we really have to decide that we have to move forward. anything we can do to have that

conversation we are available. so we're looking forward to thay hopeful manner because it took some time to get to this place. so now we kind of our focus on one needs to done, particularl with those two agencies. >> we ended the last session on joy, and you brought in the first minutes hope. to the session. >> reality? important aspects of the spectrum auction authority, the it could help us solve other problem n our global leadership and 5g, 5g and beyond wireless deployments, but it could also help pay for important critical programs like the acp. >> sure. >> or rip and replace. anything would like to add on the acp and rip and replace? >> well, you know, those are two

critical programs, we all know that. i have not had some people come up to me, just in the general constituency at home, then mike, the acp. it has reached the people that know that they need the connectivity. its probably the most important connectivity we've had in history, reaching 23 million households, just an awful lot. l areas which it had much difficulty. and when you think about what happened during the pandemic and the lack of connectivity, people embrace this. you can have access but if you don't have affordability, you don't get to theight place, people don't get it at all. so now it is so important to make sure that we don't lose the funding that we, in april, so we're looking at this as

something that is an emergency. we need to get some stopgap funding for this. i thins critical that we are doing this now, because it is, you know, many times we do in congress where people may not be aware of what we've done, right? that's what happens a lot of the times because they don't see the effects of it right away. with acp they know. i really feel that we owe that to our constituents to get this done. and i realize we need to make it more sustainable but at this moment in time let's at least try to make sure the funding continues. i think we have something in a bill where it goes to the end of the year, that's not enough but on the other hand, let's try to get that done. i am a member of t usf group of us. we are trying to look to see how we can make a usf better also to find a way to make acp

or systema president having to wait all the time for appropriations. soqp we're doing that and we hoe to come up with something, but you know how it is for that. that's a huge deal so it will take time. so as we work on that wee make sure that the funding doesn't lapse for acp. there are so man really remarkae want to make sure that there's something that when the constituents really feel i and ask for it, we have to respond. and we're really ready to try to fight for this. >> earlier today senator my para lot of this. >> yes. he also enjoyed the trouble and senator welch and fans have a package that would extend acp come believes that we'll get to the senate. the question is get to the house? can we find a vehicle in the next few weeks as we have the

appropriation and different funding bills so that■- the hope can be actual and realize? >> i think as you know it's more challenging in the house. but having said that though, a lot of this acp funding has been, well, let's face it. it doesn't matter whether you're a red state or a blue state. everybody loves us here. has always been urban. it is still mostly urban. but now in the last redistricting i have a huge ral area of large territory not too many people but wonderful small farmers, big phrma's, towns, hamlets and things like that where i talk with them and listen here they really need this connectivity and they know what it can do fon the business lives. it's a sense for the young

people to really get the sense that they can find opportunities and be able to connect in ways they never could connect before. and so i'm working with my rural colleagues. it is so important. i've always felt, i have an urban area, i should say mostly urban, but urban areas and rural areas he to w i have have s many unserved, event in the rural areas you know, they are not serve ate a reason to be engaged in this, and i really feel particularly when you think about it, it is really bipartisan, nonpartisan because many of the senators and governors of rural areas, in al. so i think we are going to make sure that this becomes louder and louder. as you know sometimes you have to many, many voices here and just like the person who came up to me at a local concert, he was

there because someone gave him a ticket. he was a senior, and he came up to me and said, congresswoman, what do you with acp? i thought we, he knows about acp. but then there are other people can represent are you talking to we need that funding. listen company, when i have people like that come up to me at a concert, it's got out there far and wide. so i'm using that, and i listen to them, too. you need to speak. you need to be able to talk to people in a sense, you of small-town newspapers, you can talk. let's blow this up in a sense so people understand exactly what this means. >> you know, one part of the acp than most people don't realize, are our member companies l sonic in san francisco that is rated as the best isp with the highest speeds, is a competitive

fiber to the home and just tremendous story of one of our member companies, but acp is very important for them to deploy new networks. because they can create a business model and the business case that if they deploy everywhere and people can afford it, and acp allows for the big business plan and financing to deploy to all neighborhoods in all parts of the city or town. >> that's right. >> and sometimes people forget that very important component, and that's true or in urban san francisco. it really helps or sacramento, if it helps us to play the networks. >> it does create new businesses and it's a huge economic develop aspect of that. i realize we can emphasize the other side of it at that side of it is really important, too. that's why we get so much

support. now we've got any sense to make sure everybody understan■eds it like you were saying, too. so that might be something we talk about even more now. thank you. >> one other area wherely been d helped lead is on 12 gigahertz. the proceeding at9, at whether e high-powered to weigh fixed. there's another company from california that's a a great su is really one of the best examples of how much imp we have in fixed wireless technologies that minimize interference that maximize capa, and we are seeing rapid adoption of fixed wireless broadband around the country. >> sure. >> and as we have a huge infusion of historic funding, if we can also have a tremendous

infusion ofpectrum and behind the band, and 12 is a stat opted. >> it does, it does, it really does and i been talking about this even for the nprm. because he gets an opportunity because this limited spectrum, we know that. this is another way of opening this up. i really feel we have to look at everything. and in essence we are a very creative society we have a lot of innovators. people something about how can do this thing better, and where do we have to find new spectrum. i'm all in at this because we just really need to do it. i have written to the chairman rosenworcel to make sure let's try to push this out and really think about it even much more intentionally. i know some of the 12 gigahertz people have made some kind agreement with i guess the cherokee nation to figure out if they can do this, , which i thik is really critical because they

really i think they can work on this thing and would be something that would demonstrate how good this could be. i'm hoping that's just one example as we move forward. >> well, we thank you for your leadership on that. it means a lot to our member companies as we been running the coalition. member how many years we have been making the case. weekly that the record is complete, the time is now. you have now joined senator lujan, senator blackburn and you calling for the fcc to act now and quickly pick so we appreciate the bipartisan, gett2 approved for to weigh fixed. we do think the timing is essential becauseí, coincides with the federal funding with the deed and if we can get the convergence of spectrum in the market and private and public funding, it can do a lot of good. >> no, it's huge.vt

>> closing the digital divide. >> we have to grab the moment. we have funding opportunities now that we are ever going to have. we need to take advantagefat ans are thinking about what we do here, and i'm excited about what we can do now. and we have to be all in on this. you know, we've got an fcc, it's a full fcc net and i think we're going to compel them to start working hard on these things because we have, when you think about it, you know, the young tw technology in a way that we didn't even know ten years ago, right? foears ago. and it's moving so quickly. we really have to explore all these avenues. not only to see what we can do to be understand that privacy and security are part of this, too. so it's not an easy bundle of

things that we have to do. but we have to do it all and we have to do it now. >> i think that's the right message. you know, this morning, and the other conversations we've had this morning, ai is top of my. s morning a center for in public policy and responsibility. we have a number ofj3 academic, industry, government leaders who will be on the advisory board. anything that you would like to leave the audience on ai, best practices, publicemendous benefo wanted to make sure we prevent as senator klobuchar said, some of the misuse and abuse at the things that could be damaging, both to our children and to our democracy. any words of advice to us as we

get started? know, it's interesting because i don't think anyone really thought about ai until we had ctgpt, and yet ai has been involved in our system for a very long time. and we need it. but when we think about some of the damage that social mediaas come around, particularly archly, i think everybody sort of hesitates. let's try to avoid all of that. but as difficult as we know, and i think we first of all have to look at what the harm could be and answered some guardrails, but also understand that there are ways that i can help, particularly i look at health care. you look at the many scitists and researchers who are looking at certain diseases, and to try to look at the whole range of

what is happening implement thing or using ai to see where the research is and what type of outcome ories might is really remarkable, particularly now when we think about in this time we have so much going on and we are looking at how do we solve some of this as far as some of the h the world. you look at energy and you look at the way we use ai in many of the■@ energy things pipes and everything else, timing and all of this. that's really, sector by sector you canee where it's been implemented. it's just that when we get to the point where we wonder whether thet whether our jobs will be taken, and once that gets into what people are thinking about, all of

it becomes the human element of what can we do to ensure as human beings we can control our own destiny in the way we live. and there is that fear that comes through, so there's that and then there's the fact that there's a practical element to all of this. i like to be involved in the way we look at this in way that is intentional and reasonable about how we can use ai. ..j8 +s >> we need to ha

conversation with a lot of the people, the american people's parents what this really means. i have a good friend whose daughter had been involved in social media and she was on all of these, you know, chat things and she got very much influenced by the whole thing and she he couldn't do anything about it, took her to the psychologists and had to talk to her friends and he is at the point where anything that comes up, anything new, like with ai, he's constantly texting me and saying, you've got to stop it, you've got to stop it. that's really not the answer, but i can understand the fear. so that's a lot of what we have to deal with. we don't want irrational fear to really get in the way, but

we do need guardrails. we need to have understanding and teachers involved in this. we need to have people who actually work with other people to say, this is what we do with this and where it can go awry. the human element is really, really concerning to me and we have to figure out how to put w doesn't interfere with some of the good things that can happen with ai and probably more of understanding about what other help us with our lives and then try to bring in what we need to do in order to protect our children, too. that's a long way of saying that we're just at the beginning of this here that we can't have overrun us. we've also got to be very, very careful and we know there have to be guardrails here and we understand that pa of finish upu know, our conversation. i think that's a good place to end. >> okay. >> i think it's wsp

and a very thoughtful approach as we, you know, we've seen ou know. it's kind of amazing. >> yeah. >> i think google 1998, that it's hard to comprehend what the early days of the commercial internet and all of the things that it's to every individual, every community, every sector, every part of our daily lives now. ai is going to be just a pervasive and just as profound. >> exactly. >> and it will be so for the next decades to come and so, i look forward to working with you, trying to get it right, and trying to take an approach that's thoughtful. that brings in all the stake holders and gives our

makers like you the best information possible as you make the decisions and we really appreciate your your ser. >> well, thank you. let me just say that it's like i've always felt that i needed to work with everybody. because i need to hear the voices. policy makers can just talk to each other and get nowhere because we need to hear from all of you and just like the parent who called me up or the person that came up to me about acp. we don't know everything. so weeedo hear from you and that's really very important in this world today in particular because it's complicated. but we don't want it toecome so confusing that we can't find a way out and solve some of these problems and move forward in a very productive and

optimistic way. that's why i've always felt being a policy maker is -- can ging, but it can be fulfilling at the same time, too, as we all work together to try to make sure that the people we love, our and our country can move forward in a way that shows not only the fact that we believe in each other, but we also believe in how important our country is in showing leadership to the world, too. i think that's really critical for all of >> i think we can say we've closed the last two sessions on joy and hope and that's a good place to be. so, thank you vereciate it. thanks a lot. [applause] >> all right, so we're going to quickly set more panels and then we have a reception to follow after the last two panels.

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