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providing balanced unfiltered coverage of government. taking you to where the pol andh the support of america's cable c-span 45 years and counting >> joining us a story is michael steele with the hill newspaper. mychael schnell is begin this weak congress and willn start with the senate. headline hill.com, schumer he's up around two for bipartisan border bill. remind viewers what the bill is and what is a plan. >> guest: good morning. this is the bipartisan border deal that group of senate negotiators james lankford, kyrsten sinema and chris murphy struck back in february. it essentially would amend some asylum laws. it within the so-called program called catch and release and it would give the president authority the border if a certain number of individuals across the border if

that reached a certain threshold. come together after months ofly those painstaking negotiations that initially convene republicans have demanded any aid for ukraine be alongside bordvion. that group convene, they came to an agreement unveiled this deal which was essen and immigration reform has been something that has lawmakers for years but very quickly after he became clear this bipartisan border deal finish line of republicans casting doubt on the significance of the legislations former president trump come out and urging republica tainst it. so essentially republicans have blocked this legislation from moving forward and then congress went ahead with considering foreign aid without border security. now schumer is trying to comeme back to this, teeing up another

recognize in this dear colleague letter last that this is a slim chance of passing. likely defection of both sides of republicans and democrats but essentially what this is it is a political move as we close in on the november election. as the border continues to surge and be a top issue on the minds of voters, this is a way the democrats to flip the switch on republicans to do some messaging on the bor give some billfold senate democrats jon n object cast a vote on the record in support of cracking down on the situat aer border. all that being said what follicle to see this vote this it is all that sure to fail but the political replication democroping could be significant. >> host: when in republicans vote for >> guest: it is very unlikely that willt happen. emissary who worked day and night tirelessly for months to come to a consensus.he cast outt

week in an interview saying this is not a serious effort and he had not received any outreach from democrats to try and move the ball forward in of border security. he essentially said this is a political gambit as we close in on the november election. thwe few others back in february, the likes of mitt romney and some other more centrist individuals like that. we could see them come on board but the now. but he don't have james lankford, i think that's a good thathere will not be significant if any republican support this time around. host: what major pieces of legislation, if any, d neeto pae november? guest: in the short term, very few. >+just one thing as of now is

government funding in september. lag down that september 30 deadline to fund the government for fiscal year 2025. legislation on the calendar. congress has already passed the y finished up the reauthorization and finished the fy 2024 preparation so they are in a glide path to september where we will likely see these messaging bills on the floor in both chambers. the expectation is that in ort-term continuing resolution to keep the government funding until after the november election andhat is when the fight will really take place for apri and government funding for the next fiscal year. host: congress sets the stage for side deals spending fight with white house is your guest: this all comes as we discussed the government funding and the appropriations process. lawmakers in the house or

getting started on this effort. ideally, leaders in the house have said they want to get all the appropriations bills over line in the lower chamber before folks leave for recess. that is all but certain to not be reached. the house has moved slowly and that's up high in the sky go but it shows the leaders and trng to hit the ground running now to go avoid what we saw in the previous fiscal year. i believe -- i believed was for short-term continuations and a number of shut down cliffs whe n and they finally finishappropri. that was supposed to be done in september. lawmakers have no aptitude- appetite for up in the process and i want to get things done early. it will probably be successful because that's the nature of congress but they are giving it their best attempt now. ho i want to invite our

viewers to join in this reaction to what they are hearing from the reporting about congress in the weeks leading up to the november election. s di in this morning at (202) 748-8000, republicans (202) 748-8001, an independents (202) 748-8002. you can text us as well include your first name, city and state at (202) 748 or go to facebook.com/c-span you can post on x @ wj. on the messagingwh sort of topics will both the house aningi up in these messaging bills and? what's the strategy? guest: what we've seen a lot of recently is having to do with immigration goes bto reason why schumer is teeing up about on thatiptisan border

security deal. immigration has continued to top pose as th mind to voters in the lead upnovember. border, immigration so lawmakers are trying to take advantage of that and try tli on those views and go full-court press on messaging for the border. we've seen a number of republicans have brought up resolutions to denounce the the border so expect to see more of that. another thing we've seen inhe house is the topic of anti-semitism and the pro-palestinian protesthak placs across the country. the israel-hamas war has been a difficult topic for democrats. their caucuses barely fractured with pro israel democrats want to defend israel's right to defend itsago-palestinian progro are conrned about the mounting humanitarian deaths in gaza. we seen these dynamics play out

in the public eye a number of as the house is voted on expect to see more of that because it sort of a twofold benefit for republicans. it gives them an opportunity to ow israel which they consider to be an important part of theirm buit also helps highlight the divisions. republicans are always looking to somehow refute the idea that they are not a united party. democrats want to fracture republicans in a way republicans dot want to. it allows republicans to argue and say that■ democrats are the party that does not defend israel. it'sging strategy for them in recent months so expect to see more of that. democrats will go with the flow because as you know, the majority parn house sets the terms -- sets the floor

schedule that's obviously republicans. democrats will have to roll to act on legislation as it comes to the floor. the senate has a different is the leader there. we are alreadyk ssaging legislation again on the topic of the border because it continues to be thewe are seeine with the bipartisan border deal. each chamber is trying to pick up wins and give their members and of ammo to go home to their districtndreason why they thinky deserve a few more years in washington. host on the house side, what about efforts to impeach the president? guest: tt has sort of fizzled out. we have seen a number of times republicans struggling to connect the dots onme that they have accuse the president of engaging in whether it be bribery's, influence peddling or what have you.

there's been mpr impeachment inquiry we've seen over the past few months. they have not found that smoking gun to prove the president is guilty of high crimes or one of the big events they had hyped up was hunter biden testifying before the senate investigative panel. wi a thud and them not finding the smoking gun. we sort of seen lawmakers not fuss too much about the impeachment inquiry because is fizzling out. one thing we have seen making center s effort to hold attorney general merrick garlandcoempt of congress. some folks think this may be an framp for republicans leading the impeachment inquiry and saying we held him in contempt to shift the spotlight off of impeachment and onto garland to give some back story on that. lastly, the house judiciary committee in the house oversight

committee advanced a resotig pat garland in contempt of congress. the issue that republicans have with garland's that they have of president biden'sh special counsel robert hurt who was looking into biden's mishandling of classified documents. can that final report come he saysnot arge the president with any crimes for his handling of less of i docume there was a little aside about the president's mental acuity, saying he wa acting -- i'm paraphrasing, but in old them a good-natured old man and that's why this -- why they decided not to charge him. republicans of as forhe recording of the interview which the justice department has not given up. the justice department has provided a transcript of the interviews between garland and herr but republicans are still seeking the audio recording.

now republicans arein in contemt remains unclear when they will vote on holding garland in content and remains unclear if it will pass have such a small majority. it really has no room for error. the really has been a less focus impeachment and now holding t. host: we will go to bill in florida, republican. caller: i wish that lady would be quite a few minutes. schumer let them all off the hook. on, it's not even a crime to lie to congress because it's schumer. that lady it as well as speaking half the truth about the republicans. host: what are you referring to? caller: what you mean?

host: about schumer. caller: he introduced a bill last week that from now on, it's not a crime to lie to congress. no matter what biden does or his son does congress, there is nothing they can do about it. host: are you fiathis guest: i'm not entirely sure at about in terms of lying to congress. it is a crime. we've seen several witnesses before congressional committees be rebuked for lying to congress so i'm not sure ofha referring to there. host: vincent, ohio, democratic caller. caller: yes, michellemsl. do you know wh conductivity for? i got an email from both j.d.

vance and sherrod brown back in april saying they were still working on called one of the oes yes they were. i company that i go through h said they've given me the deadline of the 22nd of this month. have you heard any? guest: there has been some chatter i believe is the american conductivity project or program. provides internet to internet in low income areas. there ch about that program and refunding that program potenti cde ione of thos that came across the finish line recent weeks whether is faa reauthorization or the four -- or the foreign age back to -- or the foreign aid package. to my knowledge, it did not happen.

'e current status of that program is but there was some conversation on capihithere have been various stakeholders and lawmakers who have beenating for a refunding of that program. stay tuned because there are folks on the hill aware of it. i'm not clear right now whathe status of those refunding efforts are. host: atlantic city, new jersey, independent. : good morning. thank you for taking my call. i love you on the morning show and i want you all the time and i think you're great. really baa suggestions to the white house and so forth. i'm sending a meh you and i wanted to see what you thought of it. the press has to be careful this election year not to elect donald trump like they didn't 2016. he's not a normal candidate they have to be careful. i had an idea and i want toeef t

the public service commercials are great with especially women with abortion telling their experiences. more of that is fantastic but here's my idea and wanted to see what you thougit. bring back the fireside chats with president biden. maybe twice a month with president biden, one cabinet official, to press people and to regular citizens and just retu the press conferences are so crazy for me as a citizen with people yelling at each other basically and insulting each other. return to civility with the fireside chats because i love president biden and people should love him as well because -- this would be a real fairway to show the public real information with all sides in a civil way. i you thought of that. guest: tt's perhaps why did

the biden campaign may want to embrace as we close in november. the president has been --dn't st expand different types of media he's doi. an interview recently with cnn but he also raise some a bad way when he set for an interview with howard stern for about an hour. i believe that conversation lahich slowed things down have an elongated chat about varith policy or personal or whether it be politics. that was pretty well received among some folks. maybe slowing it down and having that conversation weatherby one-on-oner catered to the public and more relaxed setting. that cou potentially be something the biden campaign embraces as we get close to the no host: this week in congress, lawmakers willls the secretary of state. can you talk about his testimony? guest: antony blinken is said to

be on capitol hill this week to talk about the funding for the state department for fy 2025. it offers lawmakers an challenge secretarytly talk to of state antony blinken. he's been at central figure of the n administration as we have different conflicts developing all over the world whether it be ukraine's war against russia or the israel-hamas war in the middle east. some folks have been critical but tickly when it comes to israel-hamas war of how president biden has handled his relationship with the israeli prime minister. and how he's handled the dynamics with the mounting humanitarian strip. whether it's about state pecthere to be some sidetrack and other missivesbout those complex that continue to unfold across the globe.

tary of state will testify tuesday we'll have coverage on c-span and you can watch and are free mobile app, c-span our online c-span.org c-span.org at. lawrence in new york, independent. caller: yeah, this is lawrence. i want to say chuck schumer is n congress right now. most of them really act professional. think they are very immaturan think fe news on demand and you guys do a great job, thank you. host: let's talk about what's happening in the house and effos by marjorie taylor greene and thomas massie to oust speaker mike johnson. could that come up again before november? guest: it coul

something about marjorie taylor greene is she needs to keep her powder dried not taking anf thtt being very vague about what her plans are. i believe it was about two weeks ago that congresswoman greene finally forced a vote on her resolution to oust speaker mike johnson from the top job. it very quickly failed in stunning fashion and she called just was called to the floor fae to table the resolution minutes after and that passed overwhelmingly. afterwards, congresswoman greene said she is not ruling out bringing it up again in the near future but again, she is not forecasting any plans ats point. it was a pretty embasi blow for congresswoman greene. she had been threatening this vote to vacate and there were e individual and the

congress who were in favor of ousting johnson than had come out publicly which was just three at the time when he forced te. congresswoman greene and congressman thomas massie and congressman paul gosar ended being republicans voting against tabling the motion to vacate resolution. some of the test those folks have said it's because they have procedural votes. and wanted an opportunity to vote on the actualolutn because it was privileged and they would vote against it. y embarrassing developed for congressman for ied to spin it by saying republicans are on the record. you can see who is part of the unity party but i don't think she will run and try to offer another opportunity for ousting johnson anytime soon and that's the indication now. itid not go the way she had intended. also because there is not any

must pass pieces of legislation coming up soon. that would be a catalyst for her having to spark this resolution before it was the government funding process and then it was fisa and then testing ukraine aid which are hot button issues that divide republicans bitterly. we't add that until september but we had to do with government funding and the expectation is it glide path until then. the so is a caveat when you talk about congresswogre d not forecg and could surprise you how she handles things. it could come is not anytime so. host: returning to the issue of emigration and the bipartisan order view, this is the view from new york. i guess not to bring up this

senate bipartisan bordered deal, what is the evidence? guest: trump said publicly, we saw a number his account telling republicans to vote against thisipered deal. we heard some republican lawmakers themselves tng to oppt came to the floor because they didn't want to harede a w so cle election. were talking about the border andn that have bedeviled lawmakers for decades. they struggled to come up with compreheiv reform and policy to respond to the ation at the southern border. president biden signing this bill would be a massive bipartisan feet that he would no doubt use on the campaign trail to argue he is trying to fix the problem that is top of mind for most voters. it's believed that trump would not want to hand biden that when

an republican senator said they did not want to give biden that victory. former president trump was very publicly urging members to vote against this. whether they were private conversations between him and johnson is not clear. i don'tary because he was publicly urging lawmakers to vote against it. his feelings were very well-known and documented. host: let's go to joe in massachusetts, democratic caller. caller: good mog. that's a grease two questions -- it seems that the border bill is one of the big campaign policy issues ngwhat do democrats need to do o republicans to get a bill passed in congress to resolve the border? the second question is i heard one previous guest sate 5000 people per day seems to be a big sticking point for republicans

ounot wanting to pass the bill nighy thing 5000 still way too much. in the 5000 was included people th border legally like for work back-and-forth so it's everybody who came over the border, not a surly new immigrants. can your guest respond to that question? guest: in terms of your first question ofo ge the comprehensive border security legislation over the finish neiparsan effort and i think a lot of lawmakers r÷sa if this bipartisan bordered deal is not getting lawmakers on both sides the aisle to do something about a politically charged matter, it's unlikely anything will. a number of individual said this conservative borders gerty legislation that had been craftedit had an endora akeholders and outside groups. the

the feeling was that if couldn't do it, nothing would ie able to. again it's one reason why it's an election year. the border is a top issue to voters. a lot of challenges and difficulties but the core legiatn was hailed byti a number of different stakeholders. if not this, very unlikely to be anything before election day. in terms of your question about the 5000 individual figure, i'm good at to go specific and see if those individuals or just individuals who came over the border in general. again thisio legislation rolled out in february. a lot of i details there's whats a good question. i don't want to give you an exact have to check theecifics. >> host: let's talk about the new york trial, the hush money trial f president trump up there today and itike this could be the last week. we have seen s members of congrs going upo witness the trial and talk to reporters outside.

at strategy? >> guest: we have seen a number of republican lawmakers both house andrs senate members marched up to new york and stand by the former president at the manhattan courthouse and deliver remarks outsidemm the probes rigged against the former president, as the department of justice is ap ahoddy case, what have you. this sort ofpublans have seen ad to do including speaker mike johnsthe highest ranking republican to go up to manhattannh tuesday. it has a couple different elements to it. it's not for republicans to tie themselves to the former president who is ofho course is the leader of the party. the presumptive republican nominee. some of these republicans clearly see that it would be beneficial to hitch their wagon to the former president so

they're trying to curry favor with them byy going up to manhattan. another element, it's been beneficial former former president because he is under strict gag order. one his viotoumbe of locations and the judge icasease violates it again there's a ibily he could face jail time. for example, the former president is unable to talk about the witnesses, disparage the witnesses in public on social media, whatub you. we have seen the republican lawmakers serve as surrogates fornd slammed those witneother parts c ways the for cannot. for example, speaker johnson went after michael cohen when he was in manhattan week, that something former president trump is unable to do. itugh this gag order and see edwin a former president likes public support. he's a man who made his money and came up the ranks through reality television. he knows how