the 1870s of the ended. actually, it's not the similar . it's that the same debate has ngoing for a century or more. and because arguments have beene in the past because we are have been made of police reforms that have been prime people to e into these debates and tell people what has been done before, what the mistakes have been made, and1] where are the avenues where we can actually try something new try some things that that have not tried before. matthew quarried earlier what the electronic■; frontiers foundation thanks for giving us a little bit of a history of rveillance in the united states.good evening, everyone 'y

barth. i'm the director of the clinton presidential library. and on behalf of the clinton qpschool of public service, the clinton foundation and the clinton presidential library, we welcome you to another offering of the clinton presidential center presents series. i want to welcome you all and very thrilled you're all here. in particular, i want to welcome congressman french hill andmarts evening. our three guests to little rock at the clinton presidential center this evening have committed themselves to right our understanding of the inflnc a spouses on our life.n's policy

from the first textbooks to be used college classrooms to the of a more general audience text. remember first ladies to establish flair and or the first association dedicate it to the study of the evolving roles in history of america's firs travey to talk thisyf w they are really a movement to bring first ladies to the cent e happenings and presidential as part of that building, our three authors spen houwistudente southwest high school. today talking with teens about the role the first lady this year team at the clinton presidential library is closely with southwest high schools students as part of the acrsademies of arkansas. their class talks by our staff about their work, job shadowing, experience and social media, inte and a social media internship focused on first ladies. those this evening those were

introduced to work at a presidential and in federal government service broadly as public service as southwest. our authors the first lady's, explores thevo■won honoree role of the first lady and its historic on the american presencyreaking work shines light on the influential women who broken our country and at ts the book argues that first ladies have been uniquely to soy policy, diplomacy and, li■qn prs individual first ladies bring their achievents, legacies to life. readers will learn the dopole oy from its origins under martha washington through its cre bide. the authors will be around after thn copies or remember the first lady's run outside the

starting on this in diana b carlin professor emerita of communications at saint louis university and retired professor of communication studies, the university of kansas. eaching are in political communication and with an emphasis on women in politics, first lady's political rhetoric and political. and she continues afz very research agenda in the middle. anita, residence, director of te first lady's initiative at the studies in the school of public affairs. an ari includes service in three u.s. presidential on shows at the white house and department of, state and as chief of staff to firs bush, nancy keegan smith, previous se aal materials division of the national archives and records in that role, she was central the development of the museum. presidential she is the president of the first lady's association for

research education flare, which is coeditor of modern first ladies. their documentary, legacy and lectures on first lad's anident. let us welcome our guests. a friend, stephanieclinton founa central role, whi transformed that role will moderate. tonight's conversation. stephanie, i'll let you take it away. thank you. ome, everybody. we're thrilled to have you here with us this evening. and i'm sohr with for this fascg conversati.rghat's all right. there are numerous memoirs,irst, plus plenty of significant articles i'd love to know why you all■q decided this time to write book. and diane must start with, if i may. all right.

well, this book, the read one, started with the blue one. i was approached about a little over three years ago from a publisco textbook. i could pitch an idea to them, d i been teaing a course either an entire course or part of a course on women in politics, on ladies for 30 years. cobble things together. there was a lot out there, but it didn't really do justice any one book. so i just pitched the first lady's book and they loved and i said, but i can't do this so i proposed to coauthor and i gave them r crentials and i said, yeah, i think they're qualified to work on that with you? so. textbook and our editor what we doing. and that was looking at the entire t of the history of the first lady, the role. so there are a lot of biographies she's edited volumes

on an issue or whatever, but we waed tdo different looking at how the times in which they led own backgrounds changed over time, stayed the sam then really look at the position and what each hee textbook editr was so engaged and this isn't read like any textbook i've ever read it's actually interesting and so and readable and so you consider converting it to a book for the general public. so we did that. soe gone and it gave us a chance to really add some f their experiences as people with families and, how their own individual backgrounds affected them. hat was what happened. and we also have thematic units, you■÷ know, woven within this. we, in fact, one of the real important chapters is one on the history of relations and civil rights and from martha washington all the way through

to present. and we were veryden gave us an w so have and wrote thejf foreword the textbook. so it's current is it could can be at this and we're excited to share it with you you need to from your special role as chief of staffo time do you have anything you want to share about why you thought this now. well i think you know i've been working at a university for over years at american university is mike knows and i was asked to come to the university to develop program an initiative aroundtudying ladies. their impact and their legacies. and it's the only university in the country that has this kind of initiative, but was really clear, though, there was a gap d this. i mean, we were hosting conferences around theountry at presidential libraries, bringing together all the best voices, the who written about first ladies and worked with

first ladies. t still to have an hour and 30 native text like this didn't exist. so it was a great exercise. i have to say. i was intimidated about writing a book. i'm glad i had two coauthors to ly help me. diana had written textbooks before, nancy hink the publishes shocked, was notconvinced that n write a book. but we had such and process andi think we've given a gift to schools and college you and universities■ around the country to actually have something so definitive like this, so it we're on a mission to get it in the hands of as many■npossible. and i'll just say one last thing. every student a tested this booe it was actually published all thing. why did we never learn this? so that's why we know we were on the right path.

a great takeaway. ll, ÷e■úna i, the opportunity to work together during the clinton you when you we t us to get all of our documents in boxes. and 'd ve from your perspective, having worked at the national archives bein ladies, why you think it was important for this think it is important these u.s. first ladies have done so ings and in teaching in with textbook history, still in 2024 remains very male. and we would be continually asked by the men in classes and men who read our general book why didn't we know this before and so that they're important legaes were somewhat hidden and weren't showcased the way

they should be and records at the presidential■n libraries ara wonderful way of buttressing that so that was i think, an interest to make the history more fulsome on rykf, very important group of women. and the more modern first ladies have leftege high. today, anita was t to laura bu's and. initiative? yes. yes. legacy wildflowers orcn■w it's very personal legacy. the cancer and thank you.that

let's a of role of the first lady. let's gokíabigail adams and doly n.ma establish important nancy, i'm going to start with you on this one. well, i'm to be i'm going to these were three very important. first ladies that we want to m going to condense down. and then if you have course sete precedent and marthashe thoughto retire and they were going to entertain at mount and then he '.wr awzetsaying surprise several months latero finds that george has that he has tasked her role but he and his

advisors did not think to ask martha how she would like handle that. and so she was told that she coul not go to people's houses to thank and vis w was of her sn heritage. and that's partly that letter that she felt like she was a■p48 prisoner. but martha balanced, you know, it was a new nation. it was very to be seen as important, regal, not french. and shealanced incredibly well. she wore clothes. shegeorge did receptions ford ds since in which shegeorge was mo. and so sheentertaining, the dids is thatring slavery into

the white house. so t her legacy, too. but martha started the long tradition that se ed by every ff supporting military and being close to we get to abigail and abigail, although she was from a different part of thery, massachusetts, and she was in congress final minister's daughter and. she was vehemently opposed to slavery, really liked martha and respected martha. and when she became first lady, she askedentertainment. and sheand abigail wasif almostf john adams term, either because of sickness or because she was taking care of adaughter.

but you can document■/%e has things, feelings this first ladies in the which is at the massachusetts adams. it's an of early founding of our nation. so what did abigail do that very unique because she was john's policy advisor one was very gooe advised john sedition acts which basically made it a crime to speak out against the government and thomas jefferson and who was adams vice president at the time left and went back to monitor he wasl7■h and many people get reelected because of the ha.

anbe became president she wrote what is our title forw the trade book, which is she wrote m in the continental please remember thladi to them r cestors. so john basically thought that was he didn't take it that serious.■/u. then we get to dolley, who's a very interesting first lady and ■ strength. then the0& eomponent and made really created enterta. before that it was prty m invits were friends or they needed to e they squishes

because you really could hardly move in the room and there receptions and she invited foes and and she charismatic she would wear turbans clothing. she was beautiful. and she m man thinking that she totally te which just so wonderful ability. and she sent james madison, her husband, who would wear black was shorter than dolley. brilliant, briiant mind, but not outgoing at all. so she really helped madison in getting his policies her outgoing opponents said if y he could■madison not out of $1 s

so sort of take and she saved the gilbert stuart nice right that courageous ■$the 1814 when the british were invading washington she remained madison there very few people there and shethe portrait was rolled up and preserved and some very important government documents taken and let the white house very shortly before british entered in. i think you can consider her the nation's first archivist. i mean she knew protected not getting what say yes really interesting. let's talk a little bit about the of first lady started to change and develop in really critical ways. can you talk about two of the

most important d of, the office of the first lady, andlady's kig role with communicating with the well, i'll start with the first creation of the office and the structure ar

first of all, it wasn't until rosalynn carter auaher nce in tt was an office theirst lady. they all worked up their bedrooms and in there, the no office for for a first lady. they were working out of■ádresse mostly there working■h remotely there. you know there was also no staff other than of course, our first ten or 11 first families had had slaves and they tended to their person all needs. of course. but it wasn't until edith rooselt was the first first lady to hire the first staff position to the white house. we're talking 1901. oh, my goodness. and the position wasml. that was the first position.

that woman's name was isabella hagner. she was a local washington kind of social person, well and this so that was the first pression position because edith roosevelt came into the white house■sunctious children. she was right. and she found her husband six. and so there are you. there you go. and a stepdaughr. teddy? they asked alice long. roosevelt longwowaays doing something and they asked teddy if he couldn't. he said, i can eitr rund i choose to run the country. do both can do both. but. but the position so this now starts professionalize and the the important too is she got her ree that this needed to be in the federal tois posit. roosevelt now manage the social and at the same time remember she she was overseeing ahouse. this is the creation of an

ng we now know is the west wing. later there was an oval officed. she needed all of that spacen. . prior to that, the office, tll . and so so things change with that and it really changes the dynamics of t complex. was that controversial you said it had be approved by congre■b m curious like how that was received improved by her husband because it was appropriation form for the white house. i mean, i think she was another personality that was pretty strong. and hea't going to say going to say no. yeah. and then but that, you know, we're talking 1901, that's the first time. and then there are other positions that are added, but mrs. kennedy was the first to have an assistant for press relations to manage the pr an was and this was under the social office.

it wasn't a communicatns job per se, but her guidance, her pr was, when dealing with the press telem pot in a nice way. she just did not engage with the press but she understood images and. she understood what interesting and needed and valuable. of course know the walk and talk tour that she did in 1962 of the white house and of course, lady bird johnson really professionalized the role secretary and brought a professional person from the media liz carpenter, into the role and then i'll just say again rosalynn carter changed the game in 1978 was the first time there was actually budget established for the first lady's office through the white house personal personnel authorization act. now there was really a staff was a policy multiple additions to

a dyreally saw it changed the ge and and then later, you knowle d be chief of staff to a first setting up my office. and i thk■6 it's interesting that rosalynn said it was your biggest fight. jimmy. yes, because kinds of shoes. yeah, i didn't know. she said they had a terrible vibecame in wanting to talk the budget. when she first askedim■lsaid eve offices complain about losing staff and she said, jimmy, w i'm working so hard? i'm overwd toot give me staff? and she kept going and got yeah. the communication inside, you know when probably the first fit lady to make any of bl

utterances. we call this speech on the way to new york. s in pennsylvania, thanked the military that, was accompanying her and thanked the crowds that had come out. but you know, that that was very uncommon me speeches in this country until the 1830s and then thethreatened to burn down the buildings when were doing it, they considered it an unnatural that we expect first ladies to be out giving speeches no that didn't happen until the 20th century before wom started giving speeches after the civil war. you women doing a lot more of th t ladies were very hesitant and they were wives, md of the ideme so woman supportedr husband. she didn' politics. so and they didn't talk to the press and julia■f grant was the first to actually make it presst

was i do not intend to be a shn ctor also said something about what they were expecting at first ladi social to to be fashionistas and julia buthawas. but what she did with communication, she began in to look at the settings for dinners and let cover her daughter's east wing wedding, east room@ weddin, so that they felt like they beginning to see the family. and so she began creating the notion of this presidential and she began she wouldn't give but she would invite the media to everything she doing on and. they could film it, they could talk to she'd make offhand comment. she was invited to give a speech to a republican women's group, she sent the speech for somebody to read because she didn't think it was appropriate for her to to be up and giving a

speech. the first give a formal speech was lou henry hr herbert hoover smyth. now, she's the woman to graduate with the she couldn't get a job. that's how she met herbert. languages and she was very involved in the she was the president during her time in the white house. there were a lot of girl, but e radio. she had her own studio to practice and she ge radioaddresf what she didwe think the first a comforter in chief that laurbust after 911 when there is a some the school shootingsndalking to who were going through a tough time during the depressshs the t herbert and then edith eleanor came in and changed the whole game where she called a news

conference, had women reporters. she had her radio show. she's writing a daily column. she's doing magazine stories. she's giving speeches. she's running around the■ county being his eyes and ears and legs. and so she changed the whole■a thing. and we kind of backtracked a little with bess and mamie. they were doing a lot behind the scenes, and jackie kennedy didn't really like to give speeches. but then we got lady bird and again and every since lady bird, we've expected them to have a very visible cause and give speeches and really propose■é wg everything she could to promote husband's programs. so she choose sites that would helpith. talk about head start or his other great societyronment. was her issue. so really, lady bird was one of the big, big change. and since then, we just sort of expect first ladies to bethe ste

giving speeches, to be going around and doing many of these same things. yeah, well, that's wonderful. segway to myt and i want to recognize the folks that are tuning in tonight because all of our programs, obviously we're thrilled to have people here in the room that we also have home. and so we solicited questions 'm going to ask a few that were came from our audience up to what you just said. i'd like to know a little bit about policy initiative during theirure and what have been some of the most successful ornduring initiatives of first lady's. well, rolling it on■= policy, yu can start by looking at eleanor. but the problem eleanor had her ngers in everything civil rights, education women's righ, huma she wasn't focused oe issue. so you sort of flash you go for

and jackie kennedy focused on white house restoration she had been to the white house when she help and she really wanted impot x with husband and his staff they to reach bele godliness and but went forward and you get to lady bird and lady bird comes in after aassasa she didn't want to choose any priorit assassination■ and mrs. kennedy invites mrs. johnson to tea, she's still in the white house

and she talks to lady bird and. this is the only case we know of about continuing■3 white restoration. she wants her to continue white house restoration. she gives her a seven page, some legal hand to this she's to set up a committref johnson's to make the committee permanent and needs a(á anent white house curator and that is just aaz because mry was able mrs.oh comments how beautiful she looked and so toer just four days after her husband had been assso6 so. the first initiative which mrs. johnson never thout do, was doing picking up jackie e restoration president johnson in march 1964

exact set of order that made the committee for prvation of the white house permanent. it is permanent todaynd white house curator then mrs. johnson chos this issues that made her heart sin was the environment and but she she couldn't call it environment. it was to substantive she'd have to use the word beautification yeah she campaigned on johnson asking her to in of 64 and house start and children's education so she had and and pas she had a whole range of programs supporting and then you go on to betty ford and breast cancer and you' very gray

and nixon a formal to foreign countries and volunteerism michelle obama women's education and and i mean obviouslyo hillary clinton i have a whole section on the back of that so so you get very it's de rigueur. it becomes deinitiative you hav. issu o that first lady's focus as far as you know several them betty ford. you know you stop and think about the hazelden betty ford center out in california. i mean, that that is incredible. what rosalynn cartermental heal. she continued that caregiving. right. which, you know, became lives.

and that that was a real big issue for her. and also immunizations. sheta continued to in the white house. and then she it after the white house. but no one knew about most of died. and i want to recognize our former first lady of■f arkansas, betty bumpers. yes. who worked■á, absolutely and ang about partnerships, rosalynn carter and betty ford became very good the other one and and jointly tested fired on the health carery clinton. hillary clinton. and they wanted mentalalth care. so, you know, those have been lk about the laura barbara bush and literacy. i mean, barbara bush is within just two months of

becoming wow, first lady was the barbara bush foundation for family literacy really was tackling adult illiteracy in this country still is an en problem and so that foundation estabsh in 1989 is still in existence it's just 33rd or 34th year it's raised 200 and millions of dollars programs that are in all 50 states. and and it really again, it's taking a personal interest and and passion and turning it into something that really can help the country. i know going to talk about mrs. clinton but■i■c]3 vital is anotr example of a long lasting, you know, legacy and something that is still helping women around around the world. so are we have so many out on ad about d it g tmade a big differa big difference. absolu traction. diane and nina and i just from

flair's first national. oh, yes and wrap it■ up and you have a pin on it. yes. yes. we'd laugh and and it was very interesting. we were seeing the original conference and segments of was rosalynn carter and betty ford and rosalynn carter was0 talking about her her mental health and how hard she worked and she couldn't get the press to focus him because it wasn't sexy. mm. you know, and mr. so treating an work hard on these issues, but some of them don't pick up traction because aren't that interested or theress tout for the white house staff for the west wing. gh know, i think one other we have to mention is michelle obamahe was doing with educating girls went to

that school in immigrant studene just would resonate. and you look at what she's doing now amal clooney and with melissa french gates and you them. i mean, this is a global initiative that she's involved in. think about educating girls and ing with some of the pushback. so i'd like to add though, i cod on on that of mrs speech in 201e convention and she said i wake up■t every morning in a house built by slaves and that i'm boe historical association and our website site crashed immediately people information about and we really didn't have enough we didn't have anything really and this about three

years to research slavery the president's neighborhood we're still information it's an aminabt there in lafayette park stephanie with you remember where know slaves labored and immigrant labor la and then all of the in the l-surrounding areas of indicator how do you see house is still hd that were slave quarters i said the last remaining slave quarters in washington d■. thatd an initiative that now is material information history in perpetuity about the building, the white house and the full story leaders the emeritus or the full story? yes. and i'govilege. i'm going shout out a wonderful runs. the george bush presidential

center in dallas. and ourhat program is here. many of you may not know this, but progscholars, it's an incree group of, 60 leaders, the most dirs group, people that you could ever imagine that we assemble through this program country right. and mike, what year was it when? we were at the dur the first was 26, team 17, and the decatur house is across the stet and that's where the offices of the white house historical association are. d we having a fabulous tour and. one of our colleagues said, at is? that little closet over here said, oh, those are that's part he slave. and she said she was just part 't. i mean, again, it was very to make a very long story short, because of that and because of a lot of what you were just talking about, our presidential e fundraising to bring that

initiative to life. and now there is a full story abouthe work of the slaves in building parts of the decatur house. and that part of the decatur house is now part of official tour. it is it's restored. it's really, really very important that thank you for this nonpartisan, wonderful program that we run■ together. we do all work together. believe it or not, people might not believe that in this age that was a great legacy. yeah, i'm irn their attention tr screens because we are■; in the clinton presidential center. and as i mentioned, we are going to talk a little bit aillary rom clinton i'm going to show this clip and then we'll have some q. i gathering in beijing, we are focusing world attention on issues that matter most in our lives, the lives of women and their families.

i bel that no t of, a new millennium, it isim se for us to, say beijing and for the world to hear that acceptable to discuss women's rights as separate fm human rights rights. it is a violation of human rights. when a leading cause of death worldwide died among women. ages 49 to 44 is the violence they are subjected to in their homes by their own relatives. it is a violation of human rights. ■2en brutalized by the

painful and degradingb mutilati. it is a violation of. human rights. when women are denied the right to plan their own families and includes being forced to have abortions or being sterilized against their will. if the forth from this conference, let it be that human rights are women's rights and women's rights are human rights once and for all. no, that very powerful. anita, i'm goin start the

questions with you here. i'd love ton secretary clinton r role as first lady from, her efforts really to to promote the white house as a showplace for, the best of americanher goals a, save america's treasures. and then also leaning in how she leaned into some of president clinton and the administer policy goals. talk a little bit about that, right? i'll talk the white use.fy impa. of course, i love that t ing the white house. historical a association. again, a legacy of jackie was tr establishere were never be enouh government money to protect the white house in the way that it should be museum standard. so obligation to be a good steward of.

the white house, mrs. clinton, you know, came in era. this is a baby boomer gn really looking at what impact, that's new and modern. and■i sclass american some new ideaso, the wte house, to show that it's a living, breathing museum. it doesn't ay in past exhibits of modern sculpture, pottery, modern art,lassware. these were temporary exhibits that in the white house and very, very interesting. but since also was it was a for the historic rooms a beautiful restoration and renovation of the blue room happened under the clinton administration. then of course they are there on the eve of the millennium. and so the and she brought other

let meces of art to and to artists that she brought to the white house. the fit artist, henry tanner, pg that she brought to the white house in acquisition of, the white house hist first 20th century, a o'keeffe, that she brought in ataig hanging in the white house library since that t been moved. and then alsat lea of the millennium, the china that she designed, which is the most used china to this day. beautiful 200th anniversary of the white house. so again, even though when we think of mrs. clinton, we think for the policy s on, of course'e only first lady to go on to be d as a senator or serve as a cabinet officer. ru■gn r for president, be

nominee of her party. most first ladies have had this obligation to protect the white house. and she did. and then the save america's point that year again on the eve of the millennium, aogni that americans needed to be invest it in really■ protecting and being caretakers of all of our how they needed to have this was an initt when laura bush came into office and and laura bush continued to support it and expanded it with the preserve america initiative. these two programs ran in tandem save americ'exists. and i'd love to invite you all seen wonderful temporary exhibit. right now which is all about it's ca guest and

it's all about state visits how the president and the first lady really take a deep interest in those visits because they helped set the tablelomacy. right and they take such care in designing special for for that leader and one of the things that73t#tb thy clinton which was perceived as a li controversial. she first got there was to bring house right there was a french chef and affs were served with a french tóservice where they go around d everybody sort of awkwardly has to try to grab the tongs and get your get your item your beef and and she really wanted again as said to showcase the best of american and therefore, she brought an american chef. formal with american service plated meals. and i think a lot of people

didn't realize that she she in t of the role of fir l absolutelye craft collection. oh my odwent out to cft there pn dispy i's been on display sort of a competition in all 50 states because again first on floor there had never been americandisplayed in the w. and so sh form, having this cont and then white. and then it traveled all over the country and there's a beautiful book. oh, yeah, there is printed about it really, really amazing. let me go how first ladies, many firturning during their tet

affected their aiv and just saw this incredible clip from the then first lady, hillary clinton's speech to on women conference that was held in b it put a finer point. i think her long dingefforts tod girls and also it laid of a platform for her■ future as secretary of state. i diane, if you could maybe comment about a little bit about that and how sort groundbreaking that wasll your perspectives. yes. this you know, she had some international trips before hand and had talked about some of the issues. school days and she was doing th, dealwiomen and children and her work with marian wright edelman and children's densfund this was ese was. and you had some slides up when we walked in about rosalynn carter going to latin america,

pat nixon is really the only first lady who's ever on behalf of her husband. and had gone to more foreign countries than any other first lady. but the time of beijing, and that is just an incredibly powerful speech there are we had tensions witho be something that continues to this day. and wem because of their human rights violations. and a chinese american named harry wu had been had gone to t@ china. he was exposing a lot of the human rights violations. d so in order for hillary to accept invitation, she had to really get past the wing because i'm sure you you are well aware of what went on because. they didn't really think she could go and do that. well, an a citizen was being imprisoned in china.

well, they eventually let she t a little easier. it■@ didn't ease things with china. in fact, the chinese media did not cover that speech. right. the world media did. you heard some ofe said and the saudis walked out during the was, you know, her on a age, really that no other first lady had probably ha was credited with giving probably the strongest first statement of the clinton administration on human rights and where that really became a turning point was after that, she really took that issue and ran with it. and, you know, prior to that, the health issue. but she continued through some of the legislation that was going through incremental, incremental change, but she ended up goi gave like 70 some speeches

basically out of this beijing topic. and then that led a lot of what she did in the senate and what she did as secretary of state and a lot t so it really was a turning point for her and theknow continues, like you said, vital thean afghan women's council that done laura bush and laura bush continue to be the co-chairs and are still working on making sure afghan are getting educated in some ways so it was not only a turning point for her, but i think it was also a turning for the position first lady and the type of platform that they could become independent and could enhance what then was doing and put an issue the worldwide stage. yeah for sure that really again into my next question legacies n endure and grow after they leave the white house. you gave some examples of

michelle incredible work that she's doing now. but in secretaryy this is partiy true given her historic rseat nu all and maybe nancy i' s to the significance of her legacy and around the world. and you did a little of that, had an incredible impact on'/'■s pushing women forward, on ceiling, on running when she was still first lady. i mean, that was unheard of. right. and being and then she is secretary of state she runs for the democratic presidential nomi then she gets it in the next race she getthdemocl

nomion■r has at she's the only women history endowed chair the world at oxford universal city. they did that in 2022 and it's attached with st john's college. and they did it because h vsubss first lady and there is also an history projectr center, the fst fir lady in the miller center, which is of virginia normally does like presidential r projects. well they decidedsignificant thn

secretary of state years when her advisor historian a leader ack is heading that and then she you ow as this isn't enough she writes she'got play's interesting hillary clinton channeled in her memoir eleanor roosevel■kyou know she a chapter and talking to eleanor roosher s talking about oh, when i'm gone to this country, it's good for me to know eleanor's been here before me. there's a lot of■á■h similar ben the two women, has created a lastingwomen and d

not in a box. i was going to add thing to that, as nancy was talking and diana mentioned yusef again, counsel and it made me think of one thing that came out of the ma t that secretary clinton did when she was the state department, particularly dealing with the afghan delegation athey wover course os we were making in reconstruction. she refused to meet with any delegation. if they did not include women. tion. i mean, really set that standard that we're not going to put up with this. the other thing thats an interat amongst the■u aid and developmet agencies to really integrate the focus on women's and women's empowerment and development in each of their appropriations and their their initiatives and

their focus. so that's really leading kw, using the position to lead an effort that changes it's not an easy thing to do and and gets me a thought eleanor conferences limited them to womereport because women reporters were telling her they tarving and because they couldn't the male press they couldn't cover the press and so it's it's a different issue ten years there. there are so many in that evolutionary trend, so many things that you can see in the arc. i'm first ladies were obviously here at the clinton presidential ich as you know all of you all know is made up the little rock offices of the clinton foundation, the clinton school of public and the clinton

nd museum and the archives of documents, all of the everything from the eight years of the clintonese presidential around the cabinet, best american history museumsm that particular time. i'd love to hear a little bit presidential in doing your chives to put this book together. well, we nancy's favorite was that year we. yes, because i love i spent 44 years in the archives are photos the the the lady bird johnson's story the race when et invites marian anderson a black operag on the

lincoln memorialt. the american revolution hand refuse to her that that documentation is at the fdr library. so we used the documentation of what we were doing something on president. bush 43 and and so we find a quotevjit is bs said. see, there's again that educate section is one of the most t civil rights issues. we we're bush saying that. so it's not■8 that we didn't do original research. we and today i, i love the clinton archival staff.

and i said well what have you in several of them think are here can you all waivepa the library staff it's here tonight. thanks for all your help. you write work and they're happy to help you and you should go over. they just opened up a lot of mowlam van beers, hillary clinton's chief of staff's files, and they weredt fascinating documents. i mean, i took them to the high summary someone and then a summary for hillary of her eight years and it would be daunting to give hillary clinton a summary. her writing was■< all over that summary. you forgot you forgot yourite this as it was never. that could be great. summary was about 12 pages. oh, even speech. just that show evensouth trip. she is pushing rights andmn,

girls rights and she comes back from one of the■ trips someone secretary of state who i believe warren christopher at thatshe cd puts to press clinton. yeah so this communication visul like that■z tape the three libraries that have tape recordings onlinere wonderful there's no substitute for their own words and their ownmuch as we've compiled really wonderful !formation written about from martha washington to joe biden, there reallyr own words. i mean, the john and his to it goes from old to new.

lyndon johnson's love letters to lady bird. he was way more eager than she was. you know, hyerou ready to marry. and lady bird is much to know . and ie're to the speeches. you know that my is communication and speeches like barbara bush's speech at wellesley. there are four first lady speeches that weredentified as among the top 100 political speeches of the 20th century. were 137 of us faculty who were sveto speeches on the univl de gave at the sorbonne in france. and hillary clinton's beijing speech. and i spent a couple of weeks at e bush library looking at presidential debates, but mainly looking at barbara bush. and that speech and the things i found about the background, that speech was controversial because

the wellesley women choose her. if you remember, was a protest. and so to see memos, to see the decision making it added to what we were able to talk about and even the thanking everybody for sticking with her and helping this become so successful. so those the kinds of things you just can't talk about unless you those documents and to laura bush give the first radio presidenal address. and so it's true r afghan your o out of her in fact we heard■d fm melanne verveer my predecessor in the white house, who is laura bush's chief of staff at the time, heard fromil, of course, f of staff in the white clinton de that, read the radio address to

the nation that she wou vilifie. it was not expected of laura bush to do tt. where mrs. clinton was known to be an activist a w handed an initiative by her husband in the and the administration, a health that was, you know, controversial. but she was more than qualified to do it. the country wasn't ready. well, before i go to my final question, i just again, i want to underscore whatble resources all the presidential library when you just hearing about e types things that you all saw and were able research. and i don't knowyo all that but you all can make appointments and to the the of research and see thedo documents and the margins that it's really it's reallyt want to thank all of the staff that work here at the library and everything

they do to preserve those for hie history of our it's it's so that's right and not making news h but you may have seen a little press that we kind of put out there last summer where we that we're going to have an expansion of the presidential center. we've hired an those here in ars may know was the lead architect for the the museum of fine arts. and so we'reg on that right now. but one of the exciting expans'e talked about, first ladies, is n institute, which will be located yyreand part of that may not bee final name, bu now. but one of the what's so exciting aut clinton library is going to be the home of all . and that's good for all of, not just the f l good. you're here, but this is her

senate papers should be the papers that are allowed come from the state department,■ right? i just said allowed, allowed and her campaign records. think about that for historians an for future students and journalists, all of that will be here. and i think■>d more unique. to have all of her recor for ou, obviously, we know that only women occupied this role in the white house, in american history. and i'mone day we will have a first gentleman serving t to hear from each of you. and we'll start down here. u, that may evolve or change when the first gentleman is the spouse holding that office?changed. every single woman who's prior. so this will just be ano■uthers. i come from a state that's its

third n governor. so so we've seen a little of this and the tee men different s and you kwe have a second gentleman right now and there are a lot of other, you know, women governors. that probably maybe the biggest change will be yless hands on with the social, although there will be social obligation. and you know, doug emhoff is doing some of the soci t■whing'e surprised if most of those men follow dr. biden and they will continue to have a job outside, will continue wo doug is teachit georgetown. it's difficult because you have a position and that's going to have a conflict ofbut i you e willthey'll be out speaking will probably have some issues. and i know n onn now has been asked too so you know step. and that's kind of where i think

it's that. it's true. doug emhoff ishe does. he's working outside thewell. but i've seen interviews. he has asked what his most imrt what he see as the most important thing he has to role. he says support the vice president. that's a very■ tradition. no response, male or their spouse. the elected official. window onto the fact of how when gentleman role, how they will adapt, they will support the president of the united states because that's the elected official. and they will carve out issues andn. i'm very convinced that the white house has to its occupants and.

the occupants adapt to a■ç needs point i it will be they will adapt to what the first female press sees to serve well. and it will be that relationship as saw first ladies have either needed. diane and i can give you a whole ho were held back by their should do. so part of this answer on the president, he is married to and what her concept is, the 2016 camp, clinton, that she would definitely have the clinton did dealing withhe+ economic issues, but, yo■÷u knod what that supportive relationshp

ladies who are most successful definitely get this supported of their their husbands. some it is in different ways but they definitely need the freedom and support of their husbands well i hope you all join me in thanking our panelists for a very lively conversation