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tmunication support c-span as a public television providers giving your front row seat t democracy.shington journal" enjoined by media and syndicated talkshow host and author welcome tohe program. >> thank you for the opportunity you. >> tomorrow you will be leading a panel discussion on justice and the effects of climate change on black cover the on tomorrow night tell me what you mea b i justice. >> it's clear to me and most americans of conscience that this is the urgency now climate justice climate equity and climate resilience. in these. conversations that program the sporting they are raising structural a institutional that are deeply embedded in this kind of conversation and reality is theeople in this country who are impacted by the climate catast be people of color and at the conversations
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that were having at the places where the conversations are taking place at ground zero we think years t water and more recently jackson miccosukee and i'm here ino in many ways for so many climate but in this conversation that we are increasingly and thankfully having about climate justice and equity in who are being impacted by this have been left. with all due respect to my wife, brother and sisters across the country, salmonellae this conversation has been liberal caring i'm glad they care about those most b impacted have been silenced in conversation and this is the silent killer for me, attemptingow night which is part of a year-long campaign that were engaged in around climate justice in the african to do tomorrow unapologetically andrsons who have been left out of this conversation.
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tomorrow night on c-span at se pacific, you will see a stage full of color widely on national television talking about this issue and how it impacts in communities of color and airport commn election year nothing could be more important. >> how did you come to thist: topic what drew you your interest? re>> g humility tied for the balance of myeer to love and serve my people. i believe if you would be a leader, i don't mean to moderate mylling you a leader you are to be engaged in loving people in the notion of loving people inno serving people. what it means to me to be a leader what iseaty of your service to them. ea lders serving people in all try to do that with the balance of does for years i moderated and curatede one of the most-watched progra year the state of the black union we did that every year inl day long on c-span on a and afternoon panel full of the brilliant a
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influencers in the month of february black history talking about the issues that matter the most to black america, and the black america book that went to number one the new york timestseller detailing the issues that are most important to black americans that book comes out couplee barack obama shows up. i believe the covenant laid the groundwork in the enthusiasm and interest in giving us the first african-american i didn't do that by myself a lot of folks been engaged in issues that matter to our people, i said that there is no issue right now but many issues on the docket in the coveted anniversary of abu believe it or not it's been 20 years book out and in some ways we made progress in other ways words of to do but at the end of athe d the work that i think really matters. conversation about climate justice climate equity and resilienceng my name in l.a. we got together about how we can impact this issue and engage in the two medium dollar plus a a 12 month campaign around this tomorrow
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night on c-span is one of the issues on a campaign for the next 12 months. >> let's talk specifics what does climate justice l what are the policies that you yoare advocating for. >> a very good question tomorrow night iat moderating and not the expert because i don't have the answers to all questions that's where the panel was assembled on the stage tomorrow night to answer those questions from a policy perspective what i doo e so well ask all theo right that i know how to do i'm good at asking questions are not the expert in unloading as everybody else's learning and the 12 month campaign that we are in the mixup, when you have a stage and like robert mueller whovironment justice for 60 years he's been writing on this issue you may not know but inside of the community and black america people for six decades. he will be on the panel at 85 old still doing his work based in houston he's on a panel tomorrow night jones is thene ezos give
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$100 million to support the work ofof communities doing sports and this is some of the work that is funded. there night, doctor on the panel coach of the white house environment advisory council peggy she ? night macarthur genius on the panel tomorrow night been jealous of the sierra club right now in the foremost organization working on these on the sierraclub they happen to have an african-american leader a black named been jealous with the sierra club is on the stagetomorrow night so a powerful question and i'm hoping to assess same question tomorrow night at the exp wide what are we talng about on the moderator and they're the experts in this is good to be amazing and empowering and uplifting. >> there is an npr a year ago with this headline it saysdvocates are saying that reparations are the answer for sea level californiaonparations it is that something that you might be advocating for when it comes to justice. >> i assure you it's on my list in docket reparations will
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come up tomorrow night in our the challenge with the dialogue and her reparation has many definitions to many people. i recognize and discuss all the time on my program and were based here in a lhtightaration why impart lambasting california us i say after my half of the califor politics i've been casting a long shadow the nation. our hope will get this issue right indigo c long across the country. after a couple years of reparation tax wars they came in from months ago in the a california is working their legislation and what reparationsti actually mean. tomorrow night up with the reparation into this panel and asked specifically what is theet at the moment about reparations w night as well. >> 's syndicated talks and author he's going to be joining us until the eprogram. you can make a comment
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ask him a q numbers are by parties republican 202-748-8001, democrats 2,027,488,000 and it appended to a also have access to 2,027,488,003 orl on facebook.com/c-span or on the wj. you mention the environmental policies have impacted the african-american community whether it's water quality air quality, toxins in the soil. hisctual data show actual impact to those the data is incontrovertible to think the country i realize to your question the our country but speci americans and people of color. somebody saidd long ago that white america gets coldolored folk and poor people get pneumonia that is still the case. the case for whyacross the board to african american people. on the other side to your
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question we will also talk about how we can mitigate impacts of climate change and reduce thesehe environmental h s and beyond not just line but all the damagethat roper will. i thought it was nothing we could do it would be watching an's time mom i engage in this i believe there are people that we can mitigate these impacts if we miss mostly and ifin we move quickly but the data is absolutely incontrover the impacting specifically communities of color jacksonville i could go down south and there's all kinds of for now this is not an issue, for decades now peo contacting cancer because of proximity to the environmental hazards, and out of every three lack kids has asthma it's not happenstance there's a reason for their proximity to the toxic dumps in these omissions in california where live certainly in los angeles receive color why, of the freewayan system.
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freeways don't run through hollywood hills or beverly hills they don't run through beverlylthy areas in the city of los angeles but the freeways run t neighborhoods in a populated by poor people, they're always ininds of emissions into the breathing the air it is the poor andeoere putting in the year in just a few weeks part of my campaign is engaging community events. it's not just the symposium which having spirited conversations every week andbo white or otherwise is having as many climate conversations withg this year. if you go toyo where website kb 0 whole page of conversations to posted in experts about everything under the climate umbrella nhe way that we are all the climatenx geniuses so it's conversation but is also community so we know when the heat starts tohe rise i was looking at the weather thisrting to climb in california and southern
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california other communities year alreadyoi g away instruments for seniors this summer because the data shows to your questiople have health disparities and we die from heat stroke or mobile is very clear of whose impacting by these issues and the conversatioomn n c-span. >> be presidential election i'm sure you've seen the polls showing that president biden is losing support among black voters especially black man why you think that is happening we make no question about president numbers and black america i saw the prehe white house at the juneteenth celebration and no question his numbers are at best soft and at worst on some erosion called and i will discuss this topic and i"a do believe they have the right i've seen polls as high as 25% of black males voting for donald the door i don't think that'll be the reality and too often democrats take black
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voters for granted and t seeing the numberse but there's something there black voters by the democratic party and ignored by the republican party lipservice i we get i'm glad to see andaiay to a friend of mine i'm glad to see that black voters are in play they matter, joe biden says all time he black women in south carolina who came to his rescue and saved his campaign four is history. he understands the imptance of black voters in donald trump although his best interest of black people he with black voters speaking at a not so funny what he had to say but the point he's appealing the black well the good thing the black voters are being taken seriously even as we see the efforts to suppre vote even though the senate could get me legislation passed and nothing but policing reform in the george floyd a john lewis none of that stuff got past i'm glad to see you in the
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for granted the black voters i simply say this we lose too manyions of the simple margin of her absence at polls we lose too elections under simple margins ever absent polls people know that my job is all them accountable and i trouble in my black friends trying to hold barack obama accountable it doesn't matter who is if you leading the american empire io hold you to be accountable to the things that you sai ran and in the best interest of and black folk, joe biden should be held accountable, donald trump sulrs are. >> you mentioned the speech by former president trump in i want to play you a portion of those remarks >> millions of illegal aliens are pouring in and taking your hurt more by the illegal aliens 16, 1ll jobs you are down to six or 7% from where you were three years ago with me and is going much lower because millions and millions of people
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are comingnt4pmunity. it's no longer every state is a border state yto your community and taking your job there affected african-americans and that after that the hispanic americans more than anypa other group in there also affecting unions because unions are starting to lose being inundated. taylor: you said you were a fan of his comments but what do you kays about illegal immigrants taking the jobs of black people? >> it's a mr. trump i should say always but typically overreaction of reality number two as always thease the facts and the datath i wrong think about mr. trump a broken clock is right twice adisregard mr. trump's right in cases like new york and chicago and places i competition for jobs default undocumented workers is the default of a greedy business owr who would prefer to pick
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these immigrants african-american fellow citizens citizens, these are citizens, be clear about that they were to put these against each other and as long as too many of the businesses can hire cheap labor they will do that so mr.or in the labor mov innocence of undocumented immigrants are being denied and rather more swiftly and quickly than african-americans, that' problem the citizens to have first dibs in acces he' about that but again let's lay t belongs this is not a blame at the feet of alone democrats and republicans have not been engaged as they should been over years decades engaging in meaningful reform and when you let meaningful is what you get you get republican with morley and knapp game of putting polk on t the places parts unknown they don't know where they are and what t being dropped off and i don't like to see the dis these people. on the other hand democrats have
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not bee are about meaningful immform if you see joe biden doing something now and we need democrats to agree with, closing y blaming them rather than holding others accountabl well there are be rules in this country there is the rule of law i respect that you can't make peout if congress would do its job in passing meaningful reform we would not have these undocumented workerse being pitted against african-americans accosting them their jobs. in t regard mr. trump makes a legitimate point is wrong. >> obviously we have several callers that want to talk to you first, first on the line in point pleasant beach new jersey joseph, good morning. >> how are you cannot make three points the first point i want to s called up erican: president trump the i maga and part of the kkk i find thatve back on the ku klux klan didn't like catholics i
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wish you would push back on that if i would've said something like that about and right away. second how are you doinglling from new york city i don't know if you've ever heard of staten island, have you. >> i've been there many times are. world the only man-made structure you can see from space and i live there highest cancer rate in the country, we were getting from bronx brooklyn and manhattan to black communities and i didn't hear anybody cal it racist i had to deal with thatancer from that, staten island is 90% white and they used to be, i would ask you when are you going to start t without color i look at and i see a particular guy but i don't see blackuy or white i don't like't you be like martin in like that judge me by my character in my i was born in 1868 and any african-american bor has had every freedom that i have the 76ers are starting to get a littleitnd
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jackson and yourself blew it up in 80s and the last 30 or 40 years this counthe way to another civil war if we can't start looking at non- color and a white man is wrong or black meat is wrong that's another thing >> let's get a response looking for so i would get. number one with with staten island and experiencing environmental hazards there people are contracting cancer there, he's exactlyis no argument there t my argument is simply this that poor people are the disproportionate victims of catastrophes,isproportionate, that's number one not suggesting you didn't see what you saw and i with republicans have these issues of climate justice climate equity and climate resilience more seriously is not just happeni of color and is not just happening to poor people but disproportionately given location i will assure you this article what part of staten nd up
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in but i assu to that, that's a fact ite am certai color import i didn't see the poor were black but the disproportionately impacted and one underlined word is d to regard to the that you and others feel that you're subjected to come i do believe in that and engage in it every life has worth and dignity in every life has in particular ottav unapologetically progressive you will never hear me or the most of people i know engaged at homonym personal tax and you've experienced that thatck that person did not make case in trying to convince you view is correct. thirdly and finally to them okay i know something about this i wrote a book a doctor king the new york times best-selling book i must say called death of king i wrote about doctor king inw is just my assessmentrican this country has ever produced that is my assessment of doctor king he is the greates e we've ever produced. i try to be like doctor king every single day. doctor king talked about judging people by the character of
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content in not the color of your that line to makeha didn't mean. clearly doctor king's agenda is me and dignity and appian rple and african-american people, his love for started on the side of town anders, he said clearly injustice anywhere is a threat everywhere take doctor king's words and twist them to mean things that they did noture the african-americans had human rights and civil right extent finally if people say they don't see c i will close on this nowhere in king's work orss and his light will everwr find him use the phrase colorblind h not believe seeing people for who they are and their dignity and nevermind there color their race, religion ethnicity. we have t words
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right to move on to a congress under. >> harry is a democrat in atlanta, georgia high. or taking myin call. to point out and have your comments on, firsts the power islands of the power companies put up also thought to be the cause cancer-causing and certain neighborhoods where they are installed the second for president, bobby kennedy junior running for think joe biden has dementia and you said you got trouble with holding barack obama accountable accountable, i don't thank you got trouble i do think that utre him becoming president that they didn't want to hear a about it andpularity wane i would like to talk a little bit about that. took out your pencil to. >> i didn't get the college first name.
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>> terry. >> thank you for your phone cal appreciate it let me move to your issues quickly you're power plant i won't go on long, that's what ron c-span for three hours seven eastern 210 eastern talking about these in a panel that will talk of the impact that these power plants are having on people ool color and even people on staten id have to be an advocate perhaps. we'll talk about that tomorrow night and the impact her p were having but this is serious pushback on that. these corporations are getting greedier and greedier by the day and they want to undo every bit of environmental progress that we made we want tory back and we'll talk about that tomorrow ni tomorrow he's not with us tomorrow night campaigning for the white hoted scholar he'll be the last speaker tomorrow night on c-span during o program seven eastern talking specifically about the in justice in juneteenth it's not lost on mere on c-span the day before and juneteenth eve were having this conversation because i
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would make sure we take the da and we engage in juneteenth is not changed about barbecues and parties in good music and good food, no nothing wrong with that it is their for that but we oug conversation about what mart the close to the panel first to doctor to talk about ars in the intersection of climate justice and juneteenth you will see cornell west on thisil program. you shall see what him a bobby kennedy another shall dos and if n state-by-state but i think what troubled meeople call cornell west cheney a spoiler, you could be a joe biden supporter and not use that word i hateerm've checked with a lot of people on that. nobody calls republicanobody called the democrats spoilers when they be republicans wire independents were voting for president call spoilers they don't o you you did not pay for them. if your 35 in an american because
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i run a newuse they like my platform over yours that does not make me a spoiler stop the nine sensible langu finally in regard to joe biden does he have dementia i'm not a physician are never diagnosed joe biden. what i do knowci done an admirable job of leading our said earlier to hold them accountable every day on things he is done but i would be wrong t counted on whether he has dementia andnce again i've never seen joe biden in mn doctor's office to diagnose him withth anything. i'm watching his work and make my decision based onil new york, independent line. >> thank taking my call in hello mr. smiley. i wanted to mention a point that is misunderstood and active climate change and the incident of pandemic and susceptible and
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disproportionate effect on people of colors back to 1981 not just covid. first i would like to make the between the number of pandemic smr 1981 to 2000's unprecedented decades before that. that is because of climatechange. >> heis next to with the facial group is evident via death rate in infection rate going back to hiv which is still in all group. to become a 40%s, of cases are up 12% of populations compared to whites who are population in incident cases. you have the disparity in a pandemic that went back 40 years as well as the most recent one covid-19 not counting impacts which was relatively mild only 140 deaths
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although every death is terrible but compared to a million deaths is relatively small. >> let's get a response or a comment on that. product related to me. that is he is not on here there levels of mistrust and distrust in scien and health and medicine at an all-time high in communities of colorn general and black american particular is onto something we were talking about this tomorrow night on c-span in a climate justice eastern tomorrow night will talk about that we at panels and what is this mistrust and distress inside let me be clear there are many offerings on the right are a lot of people who did not want to take theg the pandemic. my whole family and i'm african-american and black folk who did not and have not still taken shot some of them got it and survived it thankfull.
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there's a huge mistrust in the science and public health in medicine to assess with the disease and they change leaders there's no doubt about that that's not just black folk, like jeff and others feel the same way something has to be done about that. is what is a distrust inshe intersection there withoutan be the impact but to me by simply is this if these communities who are being impacted by these the first place so it's not just republican senat electives who think it's a joke and i do there is a real issue and i don't run away from the tough it means black people don't trust the dy medicine what we do about that in the months and years to come it'll be a c topic tomorrow night i issue. >> on the line tom gipson bird ohio. good morning. >> this seems to be when we went back for the ice cream in the
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industrial revolution we have things going worse for health on all people. not just the one-of-a-kind who got it worst for all and everything like that's been worse and getting worse all the time. but the tli climate change is going to be because were going to go into another ice age the way i understand >> there's no way of stopping this. >> on that point. >> from the point we disagree, i'm notimist and i'm internally a trainer of are things we can do right now before the damage is the tide against what's now. much of this is man-made. what were here right now is because of us. you will that and how we are complicit we beings are to blameht about now. if we were too blame for if we
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did it we can do it and if we did it we could do better so peoplengan and beyond pookie for others and what we can do to try it up and up against rakomplicity that we need to be honest about. i'm not one of those p hands and say nothing can be done. we had this conversationerrr tomorrowence deniers, we talked about that, this is not something we should sit back and fold arms and expect is going to happen, well there's nothing we can do ang wrong wrong. i'm not an optimist but i'm always afraid and hopeful that we can address this tomorrow a way for suggestions and ideas of what can fix it before it's too late. >> gary next in decatur travis. >> i listen to the republicans and they always talk abouthe dent that were leaving for a kids in the whole 9 yards they don't seem to care for can
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breathe or drink the t leave here in decatur alabama and they tan the fish because they have chemicals my second point i wish when you hit your panel that maybe you have somebody that can help people research, i'm having a problem looking at some of my land that was stolen as a family ands thing in the world to get anybo property we had 165 acres stolen from us the man that stole it and the judge ame last name. as far a climate change i wish he have somebody to say anything about how they're shooting the rockets up and out of the atmosphere and does it affect the climate change in any way o form. >> let's get a response. >> thank you for of p
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there are literally a dozen pitiless tomorrow night i got my work cut out i'm used to this his work so i'm going to navigated dialogue with 12 minds 12 experts on the issue so i assure you all 12 of to find the research that you were talking conversation i promiseocumentary out done by raul peckow an amazing document about a family other brothers went to jail and stayed t years because they would notceive getting off the land that was stolen from and the director is raul peck and you highly re watch it and all the programd is about climate justice and equity in climate resilience.
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>> lewin henderson nevada democrat.d in wisconsin republican, david are i you there. >> i am. >> i have so much toch talk about you are talkingboututparations and it's a complicated issue and we've had so many immigrants come to this country that were disparaged in irish and equation go for americans that were may be descendents and we have otherants hello. >> we hear you. >> i do understand how that would go and what would that do to if you pump
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billions of dollars into the black communities. what with the black communities do with billion dollars. about money there's a whole lot of free benefited from and built on the backs of freeaborcestors so there is a legitimate conversation about reparation and how we ultimatelyit is up to the california legislature in the country that walks the sea but we do difficulty in conversation with peopl respectfully who think there's no righteous conversation to had about this and what the country to do to mak tigiry families who were denied the income that they rightfull entitled to for the work that they did and for generations of families who after being denied the opportunity the will, income have struggled mightilyime at the top of the hour but we'll talk about this tomorrow night greater depth but again the legitimate conversation to be had and how we defined the term without veneer and i promise you
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i'll get into an estimate tomorrow night on c-span for the justice folks. nd author thank you for joining us >> thank you for the opportunity. i appreciate you. >> you can find es os c-span not more online at c-span.org. >> c-span "washington alive forum involving government, politics and public policy. frin morning looking at the heritage foundation 2025 transition process of a compilation of policy proposals for the next cons the director paul vance. and then jake with alliance for upreme court decisions in the question surrounding the court. c-span "washington journal", ay morning on c-span c-span now or online@c-span.org. >> president biden and nato
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ian stoltenberg talk about different including the ongoing war between russia andhe white house. >> this meeting follows a trip to italy for the g7
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