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we need alive of excited moving forward to tomorrow. once again i'm former senato norm coleman in the u-boat coc bipartisan mission and i'm honored to introduce our next conversation impact .24 how will america lead? time to the time candidates up why we should trust them. as you heard a there's no shortage of challenges or opportie stage. i think it's important -- leaders understand what happens overseas and that's with here. a little town in china that will change the world.■u■ if we want to advance their interests and our values need to be engaged and that's the core of our024 initiative

that bipartisan educational plan of action to ensure that all candidates running■ep in 2024 he a vision for america's role in the world and fully support our diplomatic and double of mental tools and globalal leadership. i'm honored to coach cochair this initiative along with stephanie murphy. i know she wishet me tell you ht you are. one of my favorite is the leader without followers is just a guy gal seeking warmth. we are nothing without you. they are a lot of great leaders appeared today but the reality that we need you candidates want to hear fromout to hear from you and business leaders and faith leaders military veterans humanitarians civic officials and community activists. you are the ones with the power and to meit that power multiplis

their voices. here's what we need from you. one, tell them the importance in showcase. in elevating american demand that they are to give for important that the u.s. be a show them in the midst of partisanship which can often area where republicans and democrats can come together for the good of the nation and the good of the world. you can be part of that discussion and you canpaake a difference. we thank you for your continuede two political strategists$ who are nationally recognized for their continued analysis and commentary on political and evet and prospectus for an audience ofg millions. donna brazile a veteran political strategistw best-selling author

and on and on. an extraordinary woman and first woman to serve as the manager of the presidential campaign and former vice president alchairedc nationalal committee. joining her will be scott jennings a conservative strategist authored to and founding partner and political media and crisis committee patient. he writes for gannett l.a presio bush administration. i could go wanat on. we look forward to hearing■b abt the 2024 election cycle and the ruolof campaign conversation. ladies and gentlemen please join me in welcoming donna brazile and scott jennings in

conversation moderated by ceo jason gross. [applause] ♪ how are you all doing and i are going to make you stand up.■ we have one and 56 days remaining inh> 2024 presidential season and let me tell you y■> i love the panel that moderates itself. it makes my job easier.■x >> y k didn't tell you that i moonlight as anan actress and he --

>> thank you very much donna. ie would have to do a darn thing. >> i thoughtt look so i got some colorful socks on. >> we will get into tv appearances and farming and already you know why this is one of the conference's favorite panels the intersection of foreign-policy,fk politics alwas aavite o t form these two giants on tv leaping from tv room today. let's get into it. you said 146 days away from,■,

from an extraordinarily consequential presidential election. november 5 luvall see the first presidential rematch in 58 years since adlai stevenson and dwight the first and 132 that sees a rematch of two previous incumbents grover cleveland and benjamin harrisonou look at thee the court decision of last thursday we certainly saw the polls neck-and-neck.mer presidep leading narrowly among registered voters. joe biden a leading voters. canh their basis extraordinarily unpopular with the other party

right now implemented of the polls and where we stand right now but what did these two o do to win over the few shepherding their s for the polls this november to start with donna. what does joe bidennd do? >> very easy answer -- he gets his toes and not fountain. everything else will appear i have nothing it. clearly i like mick jagger. if somebody gives me some tickets i'm going to see him. i like harrison ford and m■v■>gn freeman. i don't know what's wrong. an older man is welleasoned.

and you don't have to tell them to put the seat down when you hh should also count. this election is going to be very close.s close and knows i was there 537 votes. if you thought 2016 when i chaired the democratic party unusual to see a republican candidate letth no previous poll experience crack the wall, come on now. that was groundbreaking and yes we saw in 2020 that democratsome sunbelt namely arizona and georgia. this election is going to come do to six or seven states. it depends onta if i half bourbon or why. if i have whined up day

riding normally cabernet and ate blue wall again but i better call my nieces and nephews because they make me proud and you know what i'm saying. we have -- i went home got some barbecue shrimp five my nieces and nephews over but never sir point because i'm not ebbing away my good wine. they haven't risen from bs fahren get. here i am -- boons farm yet. i said after they had their cheetos with a later.

he to support it right and they looked at me in silence but i thought maybe i should turn up my hearing aid. you are all going to support joe biden, hairs and they are like in every election season vm■ especially the young votes and t all that some minorities are looking for a new dance partner. biden has make sure heow can reclaim those quoe unquote red states michigan wisconsin and pennsylvania compn south. this is i don't know how close i'll tell you one thing 99.5% of us do not

really are in the shot. we have less than 6 million voters had upeligible that wille whether it we start■ in 2016 to cross that ble wall and in 2020 with biden expanding the coalition. it's going to be tight and i hope ass you vote. this election is not the to the a partisan i don't dislike conservative to republicans. they are someone i best drinking but he's,lection is not just abt partisan. it's about what's at stake for the united states andt the worl. the world ishe world is democracy. new mexico friday afternoon i believe the thursday we saw the.

this is about america standard in the world and now more than■n ever we have to think about the stakes of our country not just in the short term but the next four years. in the long term. we are up against our 250th anniversary. america and get our young are not feeling it. we have a lot of work to do in this electio election of politicians. it's about making sure we can reimagine america's future and the world. cynics got the same question to you how does donald trump's fall me grover cleveland and not adlai stevenson >> before you start i to say don't spend much time with

my panelists but wn you are froe southelevision pundit this is somebody look up to for their candor and theirheg discourse. it's an honor to be on the stage with donna brazile today. [applause] >> thank you. thank you. >> i think first of is currently winning the election. if the election were held today i look at this map into chunks h carolina and i look at the northern blue wall. wh■mdl■d i the sunbelt states icy t ahead and all of them and i see rfk jr. getting on the ballot in some of them and mostly hurting i think it's 4-3, three have, te

sunbelt does he have to do to wn quick siesta when pennsylvania and michigan and wisconsin and i look at two of those who may thin trumphead into the fray the three but when i analyzed the map today i think trump is ahead. i have not yet fully absorb w tk will mean other than to impact. if i i command center and tracking to groups he would be senior citizens who have stuck with joe biden and they supported him in 20 more than they usually do democrats and they stuck with him. they are the most likely to be offendedy and also low-infoion voters. people who get very little news and may have only just seen the headlines trunk and picked it. they may not know what the case

is about or know anything other than that. if i were trump i'd be those two groups very closely. i've always believed there's a cohort of voters who wou not a . i'm not sure we'll see that was■ out in the polling just i yet. my view is that trump's strength is simply that the american people basically want to fire joee biden. he's still at 40% approval and augustce of 2021ulled out of afghanistan these never been above water inoval since august. they are stuck in mud and this month of june is an enormous them to shake the ball. they got the conviction debate. in the polls today i'm that's the consequential month

nothing has changed. if i wer in the biden headquarters i'd be in a today month. if i were in trump headquarters i'd be thinking about how do i prevent them from sinking in as quicksand that they appear to be in s c is if trump stays focused on the reas thae ■ñbiden's job approval is at 40 he will n it'd one more thing on turnout for my entire career which started in a presidential camign with george w. bush the paradigm in the republican party has been high turnout helps democrats. bt turn everybodyut on that will be good for them. in this election it' opposite. throughout everything youou thought you knew about turnout. low turnout biden. look at why democrats are winning.midterms off year and sl

elections. the highest tend to be democrats now. people call this degreers in the mid-to low propensity voters tend to be so if you have a high turnout in th e likely means trump was abl t■& successfully bring out a bunch of infrequent d a bunch of new people and changed the composition of the electorate. onng right at the trump campaign isan drives turnout as high as possible because if they do they will win. >> great insight from you both on the overall election. let's get into foreignich is ims well in their leadership across the country. theresuti some fissures within their perspective party on foreign policy. we will turn

the to then to donna. during consideration of the last national emergency spending sers public splits between republicans and the republican2t paid to ukraine and a number of other issues. you have the establishment long serving republicans like fellow leading one faction in some new arrivals in the senate and congressay be opposing support e skeptical of america's traditional leadership role around the world.na given that how do you seei messaging america's role in the world and foreign-policy?■.■[ >> i think one of the ws to be a successful president is to havesful country in the world and i think both these candidates know don't believe tn

isolationistn the or■der of some of the people who are trrue isolationists in the republican party. veryep concerning. i don't think he is. we'll have■2 to how the administration shakes out in the end. but i thinkwere to be elected what's happening congress is equally if notot moe important and here's why. the vote on the foreignid packe overwhelmingly bipartisan and showed that pe wo stand up for america's role in the world can win these debates. it w peoples twitter feed may have made it feel was close. united states to be engaged and they wanted to help our friends and allies and help it's obviously what the people

want and people will respond to leadership and we have got some in the senate and the house under the speaker. trump deserves an enormous amount credit for standing up to peopn own conference. i took great we saw and to forey happen in the election mitch mcconnell are no longer be the leader. but he will be unburdened, unleashed and a senior member of the appropriations committee. everyone in this room knows what a great asset that will be for the people who believe that we can deter the enemies freedom with hard and soft and one works with the obvious out there and i'm telling you this much is what the next president doeses whoever does you are going to have a in the united states senate appropriations committee buyingll up the hard and soft

power that anyone can findill b. i'm as interested in thel elects anything but as i think you'll continue to see true bipartisanshn congress on this topic. on the democratic side it's a different dynamic. it■ sor■e about the prior decision of foreign-policy rsus domesc comparative. democrats largely got behind7u t in an election year especially wherae democratic candidate and voters coming up on this choice on prioritizing foreign-policy president biden's vision communicating on foreign-policy or the domestic?h the reason ihink it's about walking and chewing gum. without a strong leader who

understands america's■i security interests and america's place i the world you're going to be a look to see on the domestic front as well because the protection of america's power and america's leadership voters think aboutcandidate th. it's important to talk about america's place in the world. by way a triion dollars in our defense budget military which is warranted. we can have a small military but we also have to have we have it to use those diplomatic tools to use soft power as well as hard power. i want to say something, right after the 2020 election after -- i have a lot. after the 16 election i traveled abroad. went to germany and france and ended up in the.

america and>c the elections and many people pause because they thought since i was a democrat and a former chair i was for the election of donaldfirst of all o trav and close to half of the american electorate simply because they disagree withra me. i'm not going to it. .. other major democracy. when feel like there's no hope anding on e outskirts of hope and wanto

somebody to bring them into the opportunity that is what trump prepresents. i've just the challenge to saydt i see you too and i am the leader that can help you and your fo0amily. i can help bring americans to the future. that card. if he can pull again. i read something when i saw i was going to be with jason. luily with that gray hair i did not know. he can be my boo any day at. [laughter] >> i am available.. [laughter] suffice to i am a handful. it. woman. let me tell you something my fullitle i'm cooking with grease. [laughter] i'm going to serveki shi.

61% of republicans, 61% of independents of democrats believe america should have a leading role affairs. they are a little different. the fact is where the majority of americans are. the talk about foreign policy in the u.s. role.s' ers who perhaps did not have a great understanding of what happened abroad. we tend toocusn the policy withr country. the cultul we like to fight about. that is one of the cnn and fox ane. not going to fight with you. i'm sick of that. ng with the neighbors would disagree they are growing

corn and grove. the fact is we make succotash. parks cooking■5■/ but this is america. we are a jewel but i get a chance to read the application hundredshousands of students who are applying to give f b scholarships. thank god i only he a d house. my■2oo unlike child got accepted to mit. course i'm going to prove that. but what this is aboutrica looking forward and learning here was so they can go home but what they can take from this experience to go back, this is amazing. we sit here and other out every day do not know how important we are to the world. ur story.

our narrative needs toha >> absolutely.■ [applause] >> i could not agree more with this. there are peopl who■ believe there is political benefit right now to either a, telling us america is the badus guy inhe world or o be, america is a diminished power. i the same coin. but that is that with the american people, s believe . wewe are a force for good and te is a better place we are in it. so you are talking to having conversations with political actors to dreamed up l do not listen but t be are two t places in the weight forward in

any campaign is to believe er■:ll■çica is good, we a are ae for good. there is a that believes that right some are liberal, some are cd some are a. the vast majority of us believed in the united states. are diminished. we don't believe we are bad.■z that is where most candidates are going to find a campaign to collect the spirit of the organization to your channeling from this audience q&a and a second get a couple of questions to make sure pretty qui■cklytoma couple weeks ago lost eight member of its family and a friend and a colleague of both of yours and alice's stuart stage.was a she traveled to africa. she is your bully pulpit on television to talk about

america's role in theo■9 world. she was a republican colleague a colleague of yours at cnn. she taught at the harvard school of polits in your own words what madeia alice's special whym colleagues who worked as a from. alison many years were fellow travelers. we came to know each other very wellin our time at cnn. the reason everybody loved a doll alice as she was a nic person. the power of being a nic person, alice and emb first pern to have her hand out and talk to our d■emocratic try to make the convsations f civil. to try to at the end of the

date make it the audience believe despiteurs differences she was a nice i don't know a single person in the media business howeverad a b als her middle she is middle perspective people from the coast in urban areas i appreciate that about alice too she represented adl well. she meant a lot to us at cnn. it is a huge hole we miss her greatly does not seem real to me she is one of the best andthank you.

>> i am not afraid to tell you my age because i have been involved in politics is i the ae of nine. experiences. ten presidential campaigns i have campaign 49 states will more say i will be ms. usa without the bikini. [laughter] commentator when you go for being a campaign operator to a political we were erthe only three women at forgee started to bring in mored women and people of color and every one els would assign me to the republicans only if the nott drink wine -- and of course the first two at the tea party our fees to wear a red a am not teae

read on, okay this is when i would go to the republican debate which work for michele bachmann. she is going to be on her rockers? is she one ofhem and alice was like this. she was smart she knew politics. when she went to ted cruz and said are you okay you went from michele bachmann to ted cruz you need an interventio said not going to be okay. went my former i was at cnn until became chair mariaa call we all gave each story. i cannot tell you all because i want to cover■y whatever is on y

face covered. she was woman. god needed hurt now because god needed strategist to sort all this out. alice is not god's strategist thank you alice.ng to keep time runs a short let's get a couple of may be too we compared together so we still have a littleha time. i see kerri over there has a question from the >> yes thank you so much for another extraordinary big. >> please tells who you are to question because of time. >> of course of course mark■óron florida by way of election 2000. we have a new resident of florida you may be apparently%i involved in the presidential election. i would appreciate your perspective on one issue that certainly is consistent national security economic security,

human rights, humanitarian concerns. how or whether climate this upcoming presidential election? i said that for florida and givr things the florida legislature and the florida governor -- current governor signed and implemented legislation that will strike any reference to climate for climateen change frm a range of statutory provisions. that question. let's group them together maybe one more. >> i think is goingo beh5 a big issue another big issue in the elec f young people care deeply about.o lives in orang county florida, orlando cares about it we cannot affo the insurance just to live in these states. i talking to someone from boca raton the other day and he saidhe bathtub

quality. i was talking to senator coleman hope you guys get m snow. i never thought i wouldea for ar something. we need■e theincursion of waterf up the mississippi river which will threaten the liv o others whether it's the force of wind,ai significant for this is a major issue why not prepare fort can? how many mudslides we have to see? fires to be controlled and how many people now in place folks this is a real issue. was a real issue is a girl growing up in the south. it is a r let's not it does not exist let's mitigate it, letplan ahead for . i have 31 solar i love

renewable energy. here to. >> think of bob hollister from pennsylvania the question as a panelist, do you believe there t america's foreign policy during the election season given the stakes we have been given everything you've just talked about. no is at a fault or obligation of media■ir? >> verse about myut to be violated repeatedly. [laughter] >> at his trooper. >> your tv a your telephone any other device you have for communication.ñ& i think in the actual debates which they are goingo occur. there will beisicy. the actual debates between the candidates will feature ic here. however, we get outside thedebay

going to be spun around domestic issues,■ú inflation, the econom, immigration,hat is in the actual debating arena you are going to hear because the media will treated fairly. might get 20 minutes. the candidates will minutes. given ukraine, the middle east, teio in china, taiwan, what between now and june 27. see it will be part oó?f theut is i? no. right now i'm talking■■nd the counties outside of philadelphia them talk about reproductive rights if ing people i'm talking about climate change. some of you probably already know this you are so targeted.

we know where you live. we know who you are. you get your news.ut we know how as a black woman i love to subscribe to the golf digest and national review every now and seriously.y look a littlece and once i got the nascar subscription. [laughter]■=and heard the good t tax cuts, donna? >> i am so close to my retireme a want to have a conversation with me. i alsolumbia let me encourage yu all to go out more. bite some things and help our local economy. >> a great imperative from donnr tomorrow we are going to group

together to more audience . my first question with a roll tide requestll the tide. i knew you would let me just say something. at one sec champnsshotput so att all that hateful. i like the states but again i don't like the team.yk >> we are so delighted to have you all question about a couple of things one you look or president biden is in president trump is regarding china there is not a very significant where the art immigration there's eight marks difference but look at international relations and foren tell me your perception where

the similarities are and where two candidates. >> maybe one question rerences,s between trump and biden with foreign policy. >> and one similarity i alluded to it. obviously biden adopted trump's new economic posture on china. they have different views on interpersonalpe relationships wt going to bee campaign. it's interesting to me the issue that sucked biden under in the polling was a foreign issue. it was afghanistan it wasn't else.ng that was the when people kind of lost confidence. it might be were in his issues and might be thinking how to repair that.t. possible but something to think about if

you were in theirir >> i think trade, the tariffs, there is no even the so-called executive order that will be issued tomorrow will be one crafted under trump and struck down by the court. so yes that is politics.othing h the congress. so is going to play that game. there are a lot of differences between the leaders. their projection of america's sn alliances. again foreign poly going to matter in the margins but not in the middle. >> this has been great dominant ones that have taken a lot of our time so far. we have time for aat paddle but we wish we could go on ■vforever. scott and donna many in this crowd will go to capitol hill tomorrow to talk to members of congress about the importance of

thlomacy and development tools in america role in the world. i want to try something different for both of you. i am going to ask scott to give with democratic members of congress. what would be your advice as a of what this crowd should say why america should lea the donna i'm going to ask you for advice for the public and then ose it out for a little jujitsu for you. >> my advice honestly w b modele, johnting of the democrat right now i've on television referred tos a betterment republican lately. because he is swn aol on israel. he has shown a willingness to not listen tody in our politics. i do not agree with him■p on everything. i will tell you one thing that i respond to and i think other people could emulate his

kbone and a willingness to tell the fringes i do not want to hear not need e i do not need you to chase me into an elevator. am here is myr position if i was making the democrat right now you should do like john fetterman. since he burst out of the dude's approval rating is up by 15poin. thank god for people like john fetterman is what i say. >> thank you. donna meeting republicans tomorrow but what is your advice for seaso pit expert? >> when i see the talked talkto the majority leader steve scalise who is from my nk woods. when i see mr. mcfall are some of the members of the united states senate and the green room i talk about america's despite the problems we■ h here with our concern about inflation but concern about crime but are concerned about reproductive freedom at all the

voting rights and all the issueo maintain america's lears will ge examples. when you the lawmaker you, tell them about your own experiences. what you know, who you know so they can learn from your experience why it is important. and i have to close up 30 seconds and i'm going to■s tak [laughter] a couple weeks ago i■ was invitd to the state dinner. now, iool commitment speeches that david those are tough speeches by the wa hig school. there are a college you could catell them for things you are done, goodbye. high school you're like you know you're going to be a freshman again, right? but i got invited to the state to dinner. the president of kenya.

at 19 i left ameonference representing the united states. although lsu but that's another story.■z■% reagan, ronald reagan's daughter. i went to kenya in 24. n campaign with marine reagan. she was our leader and africa i've been to then johnny carson a former ambassador to kenya he had no quote ud not hai learned the former ambassador, somewhat i went asn cochair ande was my date.l your experiences k about when you are a kid thistha

talk about you go back you are at7w an important conference and talk about even your most recent experience we had two or a you could barely get into. but i did the r was proud. stories will make a difference'r whether it is republican or de them on several occasions when i was a sional staff or they don't see theon world. they do not get out. but if theo there.e. words are to live byearned so mh of the tv. when they thank you for it

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