in this book a new angle that i anyone else had really explored in the depth that you do here on the on forces that made a figure of such power. you know we think of teddy roosevelt as the manliest of presidents, right? hes wild game when he charges up san juan hill. and yet you that he was person fundamentally shaped by the remarkable women in his life. now you had a you had a long interest in teddy roosevelt. we'll talk about that in a minute. but at what point did youht that it is important to look at the women whoelt? well, thank you, susan, being here tonyou to all of you being here at politics and prose. it's a great pl loves of theodore roosevelt. you know, i as you grew up in north dakota and you

grow up in north dakota, you do sufferheroes. you've got peggy lee, lawrence know, maybe phil jackson for roosevelt, i guess i could say i chose roosevelt, but really, he chose me. to write initially about theodore roosevelt's formative time in the these two years as a rancher and a cowboy wher recovered in nature from the depression he suffered wife and mother. and i knew, of course, of bambi and, connie mitty, alice and they'd ner been the central character of any book. they're a in the background or surrounding and supporting. my i found these tremendous letters. i mean, everywhere i turned, bambi wasadvice to her younger brother or outlet for this impulsive personality or mitty who's been completely writtenis absolutely in his life, is actually sour a personality. so i just i was 20 years in media and when know

got story i said this deserves be told and i donhink that i've ever heard it before and so off i. so it found you. it found me. and i ha stand the shoulders of some extraordinary before me. dr. dalton, who wrote for my money best single volume biographyf theodore roosevelt a strenuous life. she had spent 40 year tr. her ph.d. was on roosevelt, and she opened up her home to me. literally shared that she had gone through. her book was published in 2001 and asked, you know why weren't people ready to theodore roosevelt as anything but the product of his ownill and with out hesitation, she said, time, time it was it might be time that people are will to theodore roosevelt, as someone who had a mother and a father and that he wasn't man. you know, it reminds me a little of julius zweig's biography of lady bird johnson was called hiding in plainshe explored this in

influential role in lbj's life and decisions. she found this inc in 1968 that predicted what what would you these majestic turn every page biographies of lbj that that don't acknowledge this kind of role for ladybird an material all that that julia time. does that mean is it sexism is possible now to see these forces with women in political lives that weren't before? well, lored , yo in the matriarch, right. barbara bush was a political in although, you know george, h.w. bush is mbeloved, really this powerful woman behind. the sc the chessboard in mind. and i, you know, in theodore roosevelt's case there's literalit of material. you know edith burned much of theirspondence intentionally, did not want her with some of his had barry, his older sister,

locked letters away that she had written him. cases, only his side of the discussio and, david mccullough, wrote their seminal works in the late 1970s, early 1980s, the rise of theodore roosevelt and mornings on horseback, they did not have access to 24 letters that joanna sturm, the granddaughter alice roosevelt lowo contributed to harvard in 1986, andbetter a fuller picture of alice, this only in theodore roosevelt's life for six years, but nonetheless informed this really feminist point of view. and absolutely, susan, part of it is misogyny, right? it's just it's just plain straight up, you know, not character was around this powerful and physical man. me in the sense hiding in plain sight is a goodacters were always there. they were always ave beesome physical archives have come available since some of the seminal works

have been written. but you have to paystories in order for them to be told. it shows why. it revisit these historic figures eve masterful biographies done exemption from in the past in fairness. some of these women as you just mentioned, tried obscure their role. why did they. why did they want to do that?te theodore roosevelt to be the quintessential self-madthey you know, barry, i mentioned lockletters bambi. is this extraordinary political strategist, i say in the loves of theodore roosevelt that. you know, she isy was to john f kennedy. and i think that, you know, she's someone what valerie biden is to the current president. right. she she seeing the political moves far ahead of her brother and yet, you know, they thought they would put all their energy, all their effort into him. i do remark in the book you know, you wonder what would n lived at another time and we we do have examples.

i mean, alice roosevelt losaid of bambi had she been a man that she not theodore roosevelt would have been president of the united states. it's a pretty extraordinary statement for, a top five president, you know, and none than eleanor roosevelt agreed that assessment. so i think they simply confirm the belief of the world all himself. so it was part o their lives doing, which is propelling not for their own glory, but for his it was their life's work toi think it was the collective of this extraordinary famienergy into one singular indivi success, all of them. now, do any roosevelt biographer tr biographers or historians the time think you're making too much of this? disagree with you on the analysis you've done. well, edmund morris isn' around to argue with me, but i mean, he you and sadly, i correspond with him before he died farat 78 and you know i don't know in to a lot of the biographers of roosevelt in actually

been women. you know, stacy cordery roosevelt longworth. i mentioned dr. cathyi, you know, betty compendium called the roosevelt women whichns across both families, the fdr and the tr linend down into the descendants, more like vignettes, the family. them when i was talking with them of shook their head vigorously. yes. yes, you should absolutely pursue this. this is a line that we haven't been able to do a about. but there's plenty of material there. and does this should how we think about or assess our view? teddy i mean, it upended the way i think about growing up in north dakota, i was told of the myth of the self-made man. out to the badlands to theodore roosevelt, national park and. there's something mystical in e that like to say when you're in the east, you feel the presence of theodore ghost. when you're at sagamore or his

boyhood when you're in the west, you really feel the presenit. this is a place where he came to recover true depression. even though many fam never that word and, it's a grea story, right? it's romantic and got a sweeping narrative arc and it's almost irresistible able to see this individual as the product of his own au will that he just found his way through any challenge. and it's certainly true to a certain extent, but help. and the thing that i found when i' the loves of theodore roosevelt with people is that everybody has, if they're fortunate, a brother or sister or a father o colleague, friend, somebody that has picked them up and them when they're knocked down. and it doesn't makeheodore roosevelt any less. in fact, i think you makes you appreciate him more that he, too, ndeand when you talk about him going to the badlands, this was his his mother and his wife died on the same day.

and what was the what was the impact o that great tragedy? wellmoment. i mean back up to february some reason he's a bit of ad in divine signs and serendipity. and theodore roosevelt was absolutely convinced that his first child would be born on february 14th, 1884, because it was four years to the day that public to his wife. so he leaves for albany. he goes now, it wasn't unusual all at the time for the husband not to be during the birth of the child. so but he goes to albanyt there when child is born on february. the next day he gets a first telegram that says that baby has been born and alice is only fairly well. and we don't know the contents. they've been lost history. reaction. there was interviews with fellow state legislators. white and ran from the new york state assembly to station. he took an agonizing five and half hour trip. normally would take two and a half hours. there was descended over new york

city so thick that thean article calling suicidal weather, andldn't get a cat. he couldn't get a handsome cab. herun to six west 57th street from grand central. he arrives at the house where his brother has said there is a curse on this house. mog and. alice is dying, too. he runs to the third flo holds wife until 230 in the morning need to come to the second floor. miti, our mother is dying. they gather around. she passes of typhoid fever and then he returns upstairs the third floor and holds alice in his arms for 11 hours. and she tdimorning on february 14th, 1884, the day he expected his child to be born. so it was absolutely devastating.i mean, he puts that x in his diary, theight has gone out of my life. the light was alice. her nickname was was, her personality so was his light, his sunshinou far from

submerge her from his memory, which is he was the loss was so tried put it out of his to. the daughter that they named you know he really at that point his life had been lived out that he would go to the bad landhe w wte and he would be a rancher. and that political lifelarge was over. you know let's help people identify these five women. you mentioned them but let's let's tick through them and tell us about him first. his his mother mighty s born in connecticut, but lives the south. she moves to georgia. she is vivacious. she is impulsive. phrase is the one who introduces to african proverb speak softly and carry a she the one who will soothe his hi literally the blood out of his chest quite literally saves his young life and the credit. she was due seen as as not a rticularly significant person.

well, this is part of the so you biographers objected to the description just inverse. some of the most fascinating conversations i had with other theodore r biographers were that what if mitty knowing that she was this dominant personality, this incredibleactually willfully withdrew herself from the family r's vanity and connie to shine, to step forward, that she you know,extraordinary letters that do survive between mittysb see they i mean, they have a dynamic. i mean, first of all theodore and his brother and in a nation divided in house. divided. in a nation divided. she there are witnessing the disagreeable. i mean, over the most profound issue you could possibly imagine. the civil war, right. she has two brothe confederacy. she refuses to allow he serves in another way. working withbut these letters between them they the war. they talk about, you know many do

not become a strong minded to late. you know she already is. then mentioned just briefly tell us well she'sbachelorette in boston and she brahmin. so she's from the highest ec society. right. the good old boston toast. and in the cod where the locals talk only to the cabot's and the cabo olkto god. she's a cabot. right. so the who's you know, a geeky. he's doing he's he smells like formaldehyde. us stages of decay in his pockets. from mount rushmore. right. so imagine that going after the most eligible bachelorette in boston and then his older sister, bam, you've talked about her as an incredible pillow strategist. well bambi, only three years older than theodore. but she is almost substitute mo him his harvard a she decorates it for. she is the one who will sell sixof

her mother as well. she will well, he is absent. she'll take care of his for three years while he's in the badlands. and more consequentially you she she meets queen victoria, her stay in london and she becomes an emissary of information from the u.k. to the u.s. ggests that theodore roosevelt consider assistant secretary of the navy which, of course, will propel into his role in the she's the one who has the white of her home. 10 minutes from the whit known as the little white, where he will sneak away for all kinds in theodore roosevelt's own words, on the whole world rested. and then their yconnie, love. connie. connie. so e wanted advice. you went to bambi. if you want sympathy you go to connie. connie is the emotional outlet. she's a poet. she's the younger sister. and she is the one that will sort of empathize with t.r. she becomes his his press secretary existed. she will slip stories to the press oft?

i mean, emily spinach the the snake that alice roosevelt had because, you know, she didn't like her aunt emily and she didn't like spinach. so obviously, let's have a snake named spinach. she's the one who would tell these stories to the press over edith's objections because knew if people fell the roosevelt family her brother could accomplish wanted in policy. and then finally the first woman in your roosevelt, his second wife, edith. so edith is amazing because you could first of all you cld find two more opposite women on the face of the earth than alice and edith, and yet ty both theodore roosevelt in the in the course of seven years. edith is a childhood playmate of the roosevelts, home schooled with them. ows theodore from age three to his married for over 32 years. so she knows him better than he knows himself. and she is taciturn reserved. her stepdaughter will say she's sort of harsh, meant it's an

imperial kind of quality. i want to talk to you about whether. you might see barbara bush in and she just she but she's also. where i mean, theodore roosevelt says, i go against edith. i regret delano roosevelt will say of managed and she managed uncle theodore, a quite without his conscious of it. no slight achievement. anyone? yes. thskill. how did these five women get alonwell, a fascinating question because as i just mentioned, edith grew up the roosevelts but she wasn't one of them. she was the connie because they were the same and, you know she had a hard life. shead alcoholic. he'd suffered an accident. ore he ready because his father had died. degradation of the caro fortunes. talks, hiding her toys when the roosevelts come over because they're so shabby and she doesn't want them to see them. you she writes these poems.

i mean these survive and they're mournful and they're talking about, you know, and the extinguished. and so i think there's this where she comes from the outside andof the inner circle. suddenly she's his wife. and the most important in his life. and salg. but i think the sisters, bambi ande liked alice more. i mean alice would come theodore, she would say to her come share him. and that isot how eedith would say, i think we've seen quite season or this summer. and so i think there waswho's who's got the inside edge, who's most trusted advisor. and that dynamic from childhood really played out amongst them. you know, it's one thing for family members to give it's another thing for person getting the advice to them. so what is it about? and this was it a necessarily as seriously as political

strategists or as pr consultants or, whatever. why was teddyten to them? because he was raised by women. i you know, theater. this is the part that think other really paid as much attention to. the civil war breaks outr mother and her sister up fromhe roosevelt family. the beloved father is away. so theodore is, two sisters, and he has his grandmother, his aunt and his mother basically raising d and then influence women. alice, when they meehe late 1870s, you know she is from a progressive refor minded family and he's surrounded by this influence for hiscollege years. in 1880, theodore roosevelt writes his college thesis he endorses suffrage. 40 years before the 19th he says women should be doctors and lawyers. they not necessarily take theirhusbands name. they should keep their maiden name, own property. these pretty progressive thoughts.

in 1880. and, you know, it's not jumily members. theodore roosevelt will correspond edith wharton throughout his entire will correspond with ida b wells. he took an audience with susan b anthony. you know the first the first presidential suffrage the first women to work as high ranking positions. a campaign, the first w to second a nomination was tr his nomination. i mean it's a consistethroughout entire life starting that influence of his moth grandmother, his aunt. yeah. if if these women had in this generation, how would this who would be the president baby? barney would be? yes. i mean, i think barney the political skill and insight of a very smart, strategic advisor know whether she had the personality everybody loved herpersonality, you hear? i mean, you know,roosevelt was a showman and enjoyed the crowd. he was extroverted. i thininteresting is, again, connie

ikodore roosevelt dies actually begins to take his dies 1919. and he was for presidential nomination in the republican. we he does not does that come to pass? connie speaks the republican convention. the first woman to do so. sh that eventually her grandchildren say when they see her. lar. so they they i think what was strategic mind for politics. theodore had a little bit of both. and thank goodneim. so i'm going to ask one last question and then i would invitepeople that have that have questions to, line up for the microphone and we'll gto y in just a moment. so here's a question i ask about barbara bush. when i did a biography of her. almost everybody i interviewed said were george h.w. had become president. barbara. and the only people who said. yes, were barbargeorge h.w. bush and everybody said no. so let me. you would teddy roosevelt have president and had been an

incredibly influential figure our history wiinterest of women around him. no no. theodore roosevelt was inche followed his instincts to his and he needed the the the women in his life as discussed in the loves of theodore roosevelt to sue that tempestuous nature, to to play different roles at different points in his political trajectory. i mean, so edith, you know, he said of edith, you know whenever i go against her judgment, ilet's take a look at examples of that. right. election, his own right to the es for reelection in 1908. he makes himself and edith is seen to wince. she knows you have just made the worst political mistake of your life. in 1912, when he decides run again, it is edith who comes to him and says, put it out of mind, th be of the united states again. ouch. but also she was the only one who could say that to him. and she was right.

i mean, he was never president of the united states again. it was a valiant run. and it's interesting in history. but she knew that the political forces would and so i just don't he had the temperament. there's the interesting sort of what if alice lived? you know alice i think i think in the four years that he was with rocket. youngest member of the new york state know, wrote the first the naval war of 1812. he succeeded with her and then he after her death. thinke died theodore roosevelt does not hold elected for 15 years. he only lived 60. arter of his life. so i think he could haveice or but not without bambi and carney along the way. interesting. and is there another clan in american history that reminds you of the roosevelts. i mean, the kennedys the the hyde park branch of the ring. we need this to be adapted. this is the amer i, the roosevelts, take you through beginning of the country

th way the 1960s. it's pretty extraordinary tof one family. the bushes, bushes, the kennedys and their cousins, the fdr hyde park roosevelts.well, go to questions from our audience. yes, sir. please go ahead. thank you so much for being here today. i'm at graduate of montgomery college here in the washington, d.c. area, and i've had ain theodore roosevelt from a very young age i'm and first toward sagamore and first toward sagamore hill at age 11, in d my question and i'm hoping ultimately toamerican history. and my question isabout the dinner with booker t, the theodore well, i was i read about when theodore rooseve in october 1901 and about how carneyrted extending that invitation to booker t washington. and did carney not was carney supportive, but she also herself invited booker t washington to dinner at her home in new in at her in new york.

and my question some about the dinner and about carney's dinner wondering do you know if booker t washington came to dinner at carney's home and and what they discussed at and what they discussed and how thevening transpired. hey, thank you so much for. your question. yes. so extra. first, when theodore roosevelt assassination of william mckinley, thfirs president of the united states is to booker t washington.basically i'm so sorry i won't be able travel to the tuskegee institute. i've become president, but perhaps you can come and see me. and the 30 day period of mourningce and literally two days after the 30 day period of mournibooker t washington was a guest at the white. so it was that early in his presidency that he had booker t to the white house a caused an extraordinary firestorm. i mean, there were speeches on the floo of, the senate in which they said no harm would have come to the under the table, under the dinner table.

theodore roosevelt incidentally bannedstepping in the white house again. and so, you know, it was and he paid the political price. i mean, heouthern state again in had to rely on his support in the northeast, the west, because of dinner with booker t washington and support for equal rights. and yes, you're carney test run the dinner she had a dinner with bookerw york. unfortunately we know the contents of the discussion unusual for carney and theodore to work together and sort of figure out what should be done in a certain circumstance when when theodore was governor of new york, he would often have ca breakfast with the bosses, and then the bosses would, clear out. now it's time for me talk with the governor. and he would can stay. i mean, what harm would it be to have ae your sister can stay and she would knit converse ation. and then they strategize afterward.

so much so that theodore said to carney haven't, we had fun governor, new york. so so he would often use c did with booker t as sort the test run of the conversation in and what would happen and so it' for that to work that way. thank you. let's have the next person up i want to put a plug in for the gaithersburg book saturday. it's a great event. i'm looking forward you discuss your book about barbara walters, rule breaker. and i've been to every one and great authors and it's really great event and a free nowit was 50th state. and for those who know dickin university in north dakota holds a two hour symposium every years scholar trip and. clay jenkins was there and. it was when stacy corduroy, theyfour women authors talking about his life and we went t n the rider hotel. and it was really a great event. and what i'm curious about is library, is it going be open next yearschedule for that? and also, t.r. didn't spend much

north dakota. it's a in relative to new york. and when we were there it was going to be was dickinson going to get it or was medora going to and medora got it. and so, you know, do you know why new york library? so i get my new yorkwould with you with that question. thank you for also the ceo of the theodore roosevelt presidential library, which is currently under construction in medora, north dakota. we are opening on july 2026 the 250th anniversary of america. we're under construction now and tell you one funny story. when we went of of acquiring the land f a congressional act an act of congred the four pillars of congress and that three quarters of the four corners. you know what i'm talking about. yes. e the book on pelosi and we we just needed senator chuck schu so theodore roosevelt. the fourth arranged for a call the senator during the omnibus negotiations 2020 slightly intense

and we got a few minutes with the senator and he said, look at it. don't don't pitch me on this. i love the idea of a tr library. i just have one question library? and we said,it's far, a little farther west eryork. and he's long pause and said i'm going back. it was a very that they supported it. the short answer there were any memorialize theodore roosevelt, a theodore roosevelt national park, the preservati sagamore hill the boyhood home. but he predated the presidential library syst there have been thoughts to potentially have it in the. the west.e f natewe invite you all to come to north in 2026 or beyond and enjoy the tr library and connect. i o much more time just to moderate a two vp debate, you've never been in north dakota. it's really beautiful and huge animal and number two as dickinson state university has thw' theater roosevelt digital library.s right. i'm sorry. yes please go ahead. one of the favorite books that vet featured theodore roosevelt, i think it's called the white's about his kids, quentin

in parti anecdote and i was wondering if you pickedand theodore roosevelt as co-parents. the question in case you couldn't hear it is about theodore and edith awell, edith like to say she didn't have six children. she had seven. and that th temperament about a six year old because he was, as rahmbo and as lively as loved to play and to wrestle and, you know, do all kinds of antics with them. he's the one who encouraged his son to have encourage his son to bring algonquin thee elevator, bring him up to the second floor. mean, one thing is sort of interesting that i discuss in the loves ofelt about sort of that co-parenting is i mean, one had five children in 15ried ages during time none of which the miscarriages the about tr one te house. similar to jackie kennedy and you know and she had a stepdaughter alice so so you know her focus during those

years was really the primary caretaker and and then all the energy was was put into theodore osevelt's career. he was a wonderful loving, demanding and was edith who held thatanjust one last point to your question. she edith, i would say, is the first modern first lady. you know, she does some interesting physical things with the white how she she starts the white house china collection. she starts the portrait collection that sits in the white day. she begins the colonial garden that became the rose garden. 40,000 guests in the first year in the white house. she begins the salons that are it bring artists and musicians and poets into the whitese. in addition to reading four or five newspapers a dayaracter, being the first one to talk to her husband in the morning. the physical changes to the white house, too. two she hiresite because bambi recommends and they function and a residential function because, she i'm there. he was 42 when he became t, the youngest president in american history. and she really house, which they by the way

coined the termhe executive mansion before the roosevelts. she wantedt the the the home the place ofgovernment. and so that was a real characteri think, you know, co-parenting. he was in he was involved, but really edith who made that family. that family s center, her life. she could she could leave or take politics, but she was devoted to her family. g3i. right. thank you. please go ahead. i alice from edith's. your comments about the courtshiplice by tr and increased of the two. re just how it succeeded where sphere important in bringing that about or question is about the courtship if you had this odd geeky naturalist pursuing the most eligible how he achieve it by sheer will imagine being the object of theodore roosevelt's.but he did also

need women in when kathleen dalton who mentioned before, came up with t phrase, a campaign of encirclement. nd alice. he spent the equivalent of tens of thousan dog cart the equivalent inhe 1roadster. take the 12 mile round trip to chestnut. he was so afraid someone else was going to win alice's hand mind, wandered the woods of cambridge, shouting names other suitors and the family had with suitors and they had to they back rest. i mean, so this an intencourtship, but it was his sister. so what he did uknew that if fannie connie and hill, he would win her over. the family. and i think then that's exac chestnut. they stayed at chestnut hill. she got to know his mother and his sisters. and then they came to new york. they entertained the roosevelts, entertained the lees.

and that sealed the deal. i think alice fell in love with fanny, connie and mitty she did theodore. that's a strong statement. i. please go a about the library is actually the first conversation my partner and i her when he gets north dakota is her 50th state and i really wanted to go to the library. so it'to have north dakota is bringing together. exactly. exactly so my question is, it sounds like like obviously, you know a t subjects you've were able to consult a bunch of great biographers for it. and there's aformation. so i'm curious, all the research you're doing from they surprised as like a brand new kind of ideation is what surprised me, i mean, again, i think the btheodore roosevelt, perhaps the most masculine president in theamerican, was the product of unsung and extraordinary women. me the title take away in the loves of roosevelt. other little surprises along the way. i mean, you know, i was asked other day what part of the book didn't make that broke your heart? and i incredible obsession that theodore roosevelt had edgar allan poe, you know, he so

theodore in 1878. big year him in february his beloved father dies just interestingly you father dies when you're age 20 and you already consider him a new echelon of importance in your memory. another reason that i th many diminished over time and thenaugust of 1878, edith has turned 17. she's eligible wed they go picking water lilies. they take a they ascend. this ironically because the roosevelts were there, it was anything but and. and something happens on au it's lost to history. and theodore and edith will only talk of it briefly in their lives they'll take the secret to theirrapturous, horribleeryone thinks they're going to get married, thinks they're going to be engaged, and and up. and later theodore will sayo, bambi, i suppose we, had and i suppose we have tempers far from

being the best. and edith will had not been nice. that's all we know abouwhat happened. and two months later. he meets alicealice hathaway, lee and had never seen that chronology drawn out that way. do you a theory on what happened? well i yes, this is where the adaptation comes in. i mean, we can have so mucll save general jones later that theodoree rejected him. but that doesn't make a lot of sense because in the victorian tradition you would propose demure once and then propose again soreally doesn't add up. i think he took her for granted ihi there and he sort of yes. and when she didn't fall him or accede to his his thoughts. yeah, you know he lost his temper and whatever happens. so i thought that was kind of a fascinating way to look at it this consequential year 1878 because then comes into his life and it is edith who you

knowges and two years of a mad pursuit ensues. thank you. yes, sorry. hear about two colle letters that we came either lost or inaccessible you said was. it was destroyed in a fire, intentional fire.and and the other, you said, was locked. so for burned were you able to fill in the gaps were you ablto figure out what might have been in those letters? and thlocked away, were they unlocked? so you did yoution? so two bits of research themselves during the of the loves of theodore roosevelt number one, there was assession of the theodore roosevelt and its president, safe the first they a safe that was locked since 1954. no one wanted to look inside. so apparently they didn't have a safecracker around that.er theree were letters inside that had never been sor reported.

so were you there when because wouldn't that have been pretty remarkable about? well, and not only that. well harvard, those ttere single discovery since theodore roosevelt's death in ave looked earlier is all i can say. i agree with you. sometimes it's just luck. better to be lucky than good. i mean this and they are 11 letters, one of which isletter from three theodore roosevelt's father to son. and it's got to written to him or you know he obviously ul he thi is in washington from the house of the the president governs, our whole country. and saw this statue and i want for you to ask your mother to read it to you and learn it by heart. so when i get home, you can repeat it to me andrew jackson that stands outside the white house to this day. and it says the federal union. it must be i mean this is he's writing

to thet of the united states describing meeting with abraham lincoln example, unity of the also shows that kind of relationship he's getting a dig in at his wife read this to our son so can th preserved so. i just found that from a psychological standpoint. it was a real insight into their o the the myth and the mythos that theodore with. and then i mentionedth alice longworth's granddaughter that detail the lovewe're not available to mccullough. we're not to more as they were donated in the 1980s to harvard, and they're traordinaire. i mean, theodore roosevelt writing these phrases is there is nothingr else. but you add underlining nothing i mean, he loved this woman so deeply, sobut there was never any evidence of it. you know, a historian say couldn't say that definitively. you could only speculate and

there it is now. you can now you can see it in his own hand. well, what a wonderful book. what greatew things like these letters but such great insights so a going to want to read it and get it signed. ed o'keefe,6w