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>> will certainly, we can one going back to july think that we see and very consequential in terms of the candidacy in with joe biden in his debate with donald trump and also i think that we are wondering here today change their minds elections typically will we have found, and close races, we have seen with the debates in the candidates they about since usually the case, and that they show that 95 percent of those debates in the viewers from the end of the debate that made up their minds are the way to reinforce the decisions and cheer on their candidate from the chosen get it yet the date debates have reach where we had

50 or 60 million viewers time were likely to be that up to 80 million viewers and really to touch those voters who have not been following closely and they are still undecided and even a small slice, two or 3 percent when you're looking at l electin is likely to be decided in the margins and we know the polls have been showing consistently not one or two points it away. no certainly, with the potential is there for this to be quite consequential of a debate. >> let's go back to the june debate between president biden former president trump will play portion of it and that'll have your comment on it. >> sure to have a jury convicted you up 34 felonies last month from you said that if reelected he would, have every right to go after your political opponents you just talked about the members of the select m committe on january 6, going to jail your main political opponent is jenny

and state you tonight, can you clarify exactly whatgh it means about you feeling you have every right to go after your political opponents. trump: wasn't a retribution will be successful make this country successful again because right now it's a filling nation. my retribution squid be success when he took hundred times let a convicted felon his son is a convicted felon and a very high level in the sun is convicted and going to be convicted probably seven times, should been convicteds to before but as justiceen department let the statute of limitation lacks the most important things, but he could be a convicted felon as soon as he gets out of office joe could be a convicted felon with elevate that he is not that he's done horrible things,ng all of the desk — at the border, and telling the ukrainian people want to $1 billion if you change a prosecutor otherwise you're not getting a if i ever said that, that squid hundred pro quote not going to do anything tomorrow going to give you really dollars less youll change prosecutor having to do with you been is a criminal you

lucky, you are lucky, i did nothing wrong with the system, it was rig discussing i did nothing wrong. >> and mitchell mckinney we make of that exchange. >> went well so to me this a very good example of the benefit of the debate of where it is the only moment the campaign come up with the two candidates meet face to face with her tonight that this will be the first meeting ever between kamala harris and donald trump. and in that moment, that we learn a great deal in terms of how candidates respond to their opponent and act with their opponent. and certainly we know the base, that there is a great deal of issue discussions. and often point out that there is little to levels of what i recall learning this having an l issue money in the debate viewers come away much more

knowledgeable in the candidates issues positions but there is also great deal when i call, image orr character morning of understanding how the candidates in the temperament the demeanor and we see that quite often the interact with each other and how they respond to t each other and how they address another and again that only happens of the baystate because is only time the long campaign, that the two candidates are together. >> but let's well with the muted mics it will not be able to talk to each of the isn't that right. >> will certainly, they will not be able to interject to talk over to her to interrupt and again, donald trump was directly addressing his opponent and they have another future of debate

dialogues thatgu is unique agait the debate stage, we have again ♪ imminent rebuttal is clear as you make your point and make your attack and then as the opponents turn or how you may respond and that's much like we heard from kamala harris speeches and what she said when she s was eager to join were toe on the debate stage that she hurt her opponent had been calling names and talking and she said, say it to my face well, that's with the debate will be and certainly will meet the bikes and w we've only had o presidential race in history of the debates with the muted microphones in the second debate in 2020 and then, the debate between donald trump and joe biden at the gym. and that feature does control the candidates ability to have a

more freewheeling and uninterrupted exchange but of course the muted microphone was brought about because it would a have in the first debate in 2020, where is simply was so chaotic, jiggly donald trump strategy to try to befuddle joe biden every time joe biden had his first speaking we had a great deal talking over really controlling to control the dialogue so they have you microphones predict we will have again tonight. and so therefore it does bring some semblance of control to the debate. >> at that last debate, president biden's age and shaky performance was a major factor in that debate and do you think that there will be renewed to scrutiny now on mr. trump's age mental acuity. >> will certainly, i think that

it could be a line of questioning and perhaps even a linene of attacks that he woulde the oldest president to have the presidency should he be elected. and is interesting about age question. it is certainly was a feature the late june debate and actually, the age question was less explicit and more implicit in terms of how would joe biden perform because the expectations have been set up by donald trump that joe biden was simply not be able to and in many ways joe biden in his performance enacted verified that question that some voters had we've had the age question interestingly in 1950 and when we started with vice

presidential debate of the age question was put to john kennedy and he would be too young and inexperienced to be president and again in ronald reagan's reelection, he beat too old to continue serving as president. so that question and really, and i would interpret it is a question a fitness of that candidate. what is their level of fitness, to perform their duties. and again, we see that addressed in the ability for the candidates to address that on the debate stage. >> and we would like to join our conversation with mitchell mitchell w mckinney, he is a national scholar presidential debates on the day because our (202)748-8000 and republic of

24880012027488002 are getting phone calls shortly and mitchell mckinney there is also not going tooc be any audience in the studio. when in fact do you think that house on the h debate. >> and certainly i think again, that is another feature from that element of structuring in this debate that's intended to bring more focused discussion of the issue of decline if you wiln place over the years now in some ways, this is back to the future of the presidential debates because of d the original inaugural presidential debate in 1960 and there were four of them took place tv studios with just the candidates in the journalist we've gotten away from that when they were with lots of live audiences and this time of several decades, more so within

a started to drift into our general election debates i'm particularly in 2016, and in 2020, when the audience became participant in the debate dialogue and much more so with the candidates were playing to the audience for their approvals their applause and much like the term the debate stage into a rally and we can, in 2016, we saw moment somewhere particularly donald trump was with the audience in getting applause from the audience and get that sort of creating that rally atmosphere that attractede from a more focused discussion of the issue and so, that's the

attempt we see that with removing the audience live audience from the debate moment in the focusing with the two candidates, their interaction with each other, their discussion of the issues, and without the live audience. >> so in o your opinion, mitchel mckinney, do you think that the addition of the audience has been a good thing or bad thing. >> was sometimes will reference primary audience the primary audience is a 50 or 60 or 70 million viewers who are tuned in to focus and learn from these candidates rather than enough all of the audience that again as i said, quite often other certainly there there as supporters of one for the other candidate, and then the big it's a distraction, to the primary for the primary audience and so i think in many ways, it is

certainly a beneficial now, for those candidates, who wish to use the debate stage something like a rally, it might work to their disadvantage justice we talked about the meeting of the microphones. if someone wishes to use a strategy to interrupt and to interject into control talkte time, the meeting of the microphones eliminates the ability sent currently of colors that we want to talk to you so. will start with grover in virginia the line for the democrats good morning. >> good morning, i would like to ask you a question, secret service question. and i will answer this question if trump with his background pretty apply for secret service job.

>> gives something specifically about the debates grover. >> yes, enemy well we've seen this man says 2016 of until now, they don't know' what he stands for.in and people broke into the capitol. in the american people did not dodo anything. and he had that done so the debate will mean one of the american people they need to turn 19. >> okay, and will hear from roger north carolina republican good morning roger. >> morning. and the aspect democrats made and in the debate that might you know, is somebody to change

their minds and thank you. >> certainly, as you noted, it is the debate form likely is the form that what is appealing to theirin party to try to change f mind. it is again, that coming to this moment, that really i'm sure undecideds morning to learn and in that regard i would say, into nights debate, kamala harris has work to do in terms of introducing herself and her ideas and i say introducing yourself certainly, she has been vice president but in terms of that voters looking at her as a potential president, there was out coming out at the national convention if you will and that audience to get was very much the party faithful to mobilize and to energize now, is a much

larger audience because 60 plus million where there will be many motors uncertain and unsure and this is the moment to demonstrate once fitness. i did discuss the issues into the colors pointed donald trump changing his mind i think that lesson on his side and again those who support him i with him i will not change my mind and those who do not support him, are not with them and will not change the right based on what happens in this debate. yet, t ohi use this opportunity to try to appeal to those small slice of undecideds in that regard i think, that kamala harris has morema opportunity simply because she is less known in terms of her

presidential bid we have a question for you on tax from dell in florida about the moderators role in you said professor mckinney, is a fair, do you have only well known cleaning moderators tonight and there should be one from fox and one from abc, to make it fair q and like a hard follow-up questions to kamala harris, are likely as in dana bashes interview of the kamala harris and tim walz interview last week. >> will certainly the role of the moderator studying the agenda and asking the questions, it is very significant in terms of influence had debates in the discussion that the debate and i would also say the ability to follow-up, depress the candidates on the responses those elements are very significant in terms of left-leaning are bright bringing what he is like this been one of the most contentious issues in

the presidential debates and to balking not to participate in leading us to well when we had independent debate sponsors, such as the voters in commissioner presidential debate, it is always the case that in negotiations of the debate, the candidates will agree to participate or not required but only by their willingness to agree to participate. and it oftentimes comes down to the question will who will be selected to question and to interrogate the candidates and to appoint trying to influence the decision, reset over and over again fell garbage and if you had left-leaning that fox news will i included it does not seem to matter that were aware

that their selected there will be questioning and we have had it with donald trump questioning "fox news" journalists, wallace for example, has moderator presidential debates. others in the primary. some ways it's used with some candidates is a strategy to try to work the rest of you will, that they will be bias against these in the question is always there in terms of will the journalist be fair. i things important for us to look at okay, was sort of issue discussion and agenda do they bring to the debate and when candidates arere responding, depress the candidates to respond to the question. to clarify those are important issues and they can be very difficult for the journalist.

>> independent line, you next. >> good morning, i'm a democrat and i am proud to be democrats. and you donald trump, he spews hatred. i never heard a politician anybody but this guy, i think he's out of his mind. last may, he did not answer any questions or do anything. he doesn't start trouble everywhere he goes he wants to start trouble trouble trouble trouble he does not want to debate in theth users, he wantso start trouble. in a really don't understand what people see in him. >> your comments about and about the idea that if a candidate does not answer the question.

>> will certainly what we typically have seen in the debate stage is the opportunity for the candidates to enact and i refer to it as the presidential reality of do they come across in early able to persuade the voters that they are presidential when he said of the station performing the stage jim the question, we generally see the differences in terms of their the speech at the and how many will attack and talk in the claims and make but then that's usually tempered somewhat when we get to the debate stage and that is not always been the case and i'm sick tonight too i said earlier that kamala harris has is incumbent upon her to introduce herself to discuss

what the issues that she views are important, and again the voters have the question in terms of the woods all of he be able to this gets back to the microphones being controlled will you be able to perform at a level for those who are questioning hisis temperament ad wealthy be able to control that outperforming in a manner that he does appear if presidential. and to your terms of responding to the question in nature debate of that it was clear after line of questioning that quite often that the candidates can simply ignore the question put to them

and respond so again to what their agenda was in quite often to attack their opponents. so, the journalist must be willing remind the candidates in then follow-ups and reminding te voters the listeners, that okay, they evaded the question puthe o them. in this important i think for those feeling the debate and can the candidates address in a substantive way, was largely issue -based questions in some waysup that's up to the journalt with her performance tonight inn their ability to hold the candidates to addressing the questions from the line for them that's in silver spring maryland, barbara, your next.

>> good morning, thank you for taking my call. and i was just listening the gentleman before me, really made a lot of very good points. my five is that i don't know if abraham lincoln already had the nickname on estate, before his debates but as long as the candidate can stand up there and performan instead of actually answering questions, is a gentleman before me said, when asked a question, where they can just evade answering that does not give us any kind of information and lesser fact checkers which with her kind of technology nowadays, i do not see why there could not be a red

light go off for every lie that is told because otherwise we just watching circus performers and. >> okay barbara, thank you. >> very good points even in her pointing out, that the voters are detracted or the ability to learn, when the candidates will evade the questioning. and i noticed that she concluded, and what that views of the candidates andat so therefore we find this quite often. for those viewers to learn something about the candidates who consistently evaded will not answer the questions and it is available morning about their preparedness and temperament and their ability to serve as

president, and even if they do not know something or they're unwilling to take a position and so there is some level of e morning even even with the question in the issue of fact checking and certainly i would say here all of the post debates, and we have outlets it will be fact checking us debated it is quite difficult time. to offer that level of fact checking as the candidates are speaking and there have been some attempts, there has been some attempts in terms and whatever the issue is to provido but it is difficult in fact the important fact checkers on the stage of the two candidates what, i mean, by that and what i

said earlier about a minute ago was one candidate exclaims offers their version of fact, then to be here in response the opponent p point out inconsistencies or point out for the basis of the claims just made it can be difficult as well because of again, the entire time is a coming to clean up or respond, to opponents had been drop message not getting the message t out. and we ask that you expect some level of that response, to one's opponent when such let's say, the claims without anyth basis outlined outlandish claims and exaggerations are made, and then as i said earlier and followed up by the journalist for clarification and there's an

opportunity, they can be very dangerous and we see that happening debates and then the attacks of the journalists in terms of trying to clarify with all of these elements are important, to help us understand they have the viewers in the voters understand, from the debate dial-up. >> and here's dora in virginia, independent line, good morning. >> good morning. i would like to know about these debates. these people are not being their true selves anyway you know we get all this promise is what they will do. and we see partly none of this them and they tell us something that they blue come they do not tell us how it will happen they say i'm going to give you thisay much money which i don't think they are to be given anybody any money. and if they need food, the need to give them food or shelter or whatever, but they don't need to be handing out money ... anywa'h

confidence in any of these today. thank you. guest: they are raising a good point in terms of duty get the true candidate, their true self? certainly in terms of their ability to provide an in-depth issue position on how they would enact policy, and a 90 minute debate, we can get some level of detail. we c we could get some level. it is some sense of their views and their position. yet, is this a true candidate? i often point out and we find will meet ask voters the utility and what they get from the debate. so here is a moment where the candidates come to the stage without the aid of teleprompter,

much like in their controlled appearances whether it's their rallies or their stump speeches they're controlled planned event. not so on the debate stage. it is just them at a podium with no handlers as i said. no prepared text. no teleprompter. voters do find the debate moments as perhaps one of the more authentic moments. we heard itt from the candidate. we can question what we are hearing from the candidates i think on that level we will make an assessment if you go back they have some to offer but they respond to that question. they have a substance in terms of their response. or they don't. and again from the debate performances unlike any other

moment of the controlled messaging and communication. quickly got this from calvin and michigan on text. it is my observation that today'sde debates are not debats but a double interview whichf adds to the perception of a bias on behalf of theha moderator. where is the give-and-take? what you think of that? >> we hear quite often in terms of whether we regard true debate. some went reference earlier to lincolnln that involves the lincoln douglas debates where for example it was just the candidates on the stage. just the kenneth on the stage were three hours the first speaker had one hour to develop their position followed by 30 minute rebuttal. george and linda out for mount is not going to be available to

the american public. oftentimes the true debris as a reference like a collegiate debate about rapid back-and-forth between someone who take the affirmative and negative side of one single position. on the presidential debate stage we have tried instances of the moderator, mr. north offering up a topic and then let the kennethgo back and forth. that was tried in some vice presidential debates. for example al gore and dan quayle that experiment did not work.h instead of interacting with each other the candidates would try to filibuster and talk and talk over again and this is what brought us to the buyers. i think one can regard whatever

it notion of true debate. yet, what we have is the ability for us to hear from the candidate, to also see candidates interacting with each other and responding to each other. therefore we consistently find debate doers come away with much more informed. they know more about the candidate issue position. they form assessment of the character from their debate thee performance. and so debate and counters are quite useful for voters. >> diane and ohio republican line good morning. >> caller: good morning. thank you for taking this call. it was in reference to think two fellowsha back now that made the statement trumps just barbers

and blackbirds and yells. he does have that kind of personality. he don't mean half of it. they talk about what he's doing out in the open. they don't know what biden is doing behind closed doors? my god he's got this country insomuch trouble it is unbelievable. it's not just kids at the basic of middle income is getting shot down from everything going up so high and him doing nothing and keeping them at gates totally open. and my god, they arest just flooding in and now for example shirts and is wanting us to be a sanctuary state. i've got family that live in those states they give their eye teeth it was not a sanctuary for a 16-year-old two years ago.

>> is your question about the debate regarding immigration might be handled? is that what you want? >> oh yes. >> that raises a number of important issues in terms of economic issues, armed immigration and so what we find as we said earlier 90 minutes in these debates typically cover a range of issues. they usually will cover those issues have been identified as important to most i voters. now it will voters come to the moment to really understand what the candidate ideas arenng thes?

again the caller raises several of his issues. from then we make an assessment. it seems like this candidate has some ideas on how to address whatever the issues might be. the cost of childcare for example. we make an assessment they did not sayem much of any idea how o address this issue. this debate moment affords us that opportunity. brian is in akron, ohio yorktown who says what role might gender play in tonight's debate? >> interesting question. i think of this gets caught up for example the meeting of the mike. again the last caller pointed to

trump debate style that's typically a very aggressive, sometimes bombastic style. he likes to control the moment. now we saw in 2016 the last time we had a female nominee hilary clinton the democratic nominee theirs were those moments i'm thinking about moments in the town hall presidential debate. we had a town hall debate in 2016 client noted in the discussion that emphasize the performance nature the performative aspect that candidates are performing in the town hall it's very much the case they are roaming about and interacting with citizens. it was in that debate for example where there were moments

suggesting donald trump while higley has clinton was grimacing, the thing we heard and other debates to this was before the mics were cut off. the name calling the talking account the previous caller mentioned some characteristics awful donald trump. like she is a nasty woman thousand interjection will hilary clinton was responding. there some question tonight this may be where the muted might mics will work to the advantage of donald trump to control the tendency or ability to taunt or attack that could be seen is not appropriate or not presidential in terms of how one interacts with their opponent. there is a lot of questions that are raised in terms of how these two candidates will interact

with each other. >> gregory sherman oaks california democrat you are next. >> hello. i would like to ask professor what he think of this idea. why not a presidential debate moderated by a trio of twentysomething student moderators who will ask the candidates about the issues that would have the longest term consequence the issues that will affect this part of the electorate. sadly the least engaged inly voting. question that will affect their future. i would start with climate destruction and global heating. this is really the most important issue we have got. the price of gasoline by the way it puts out climate emissions up

and down over several months are not nearly as consequential over the rest of our lives especially young people's lives is what we are doing to the planets and the world we live in. this is the important stuff. younger people should be engaged on it. i would like to suggest c-span sponsor a presidential debates try to get the candidates to engage with these young moderators would ask them a really important questions about the long term carbon budgeting. every year were supposed to be doing a financial budget. how about a carbon budget? some european countries i believe our carbon budgeting along with their t money budgeting. we should be doing that in the united states. for the most carbon intensive country in per capita in absolute terms as all of thest countries.

>> guest: i like gregory's idea we could have different questioners i think gregory you, questioning the candidate because they wouldld bring to tt debate a different issue agenda. and we have found similar in our analysis of debates. we have tried to interject, to include different questions. we did that in the form of town hall debates a group starting in 1992 in the town hall debates continued until the last cycle in 2020 it is not appeared that they are on the agenda for this cycle of debate. now the town hall debates a group of citizens randomly selected in the city were that debate was located to be the

questioners. to interrogate thehe candidates. our analysis they interestingly found the issue agenda the question raised by citizens in the town hall debate are closely mirrored the most important issue that citizens indicated were important to them in the election for even more so than the journal led debates. the reason being is a typicallyy in the journal was led debates you will have included a sequence or series of questions and sometimes i call them character-based questions are even gotcha questions your opponent has said this about you, how do you respond? or you have said this but then you've also said this. those could be on issues. when citizens stand and ask the

questions it typically always about some issue that affects them that matters to them. i am using that as an example i think gregory is onto something. we could have different questioners and debates. and i think that would highlight a different issueue agenda. >> also in california it looks like we lost that call. will go to wsrc and morehead, minnesota independently good morning. >> good morning. i want to tap into these skill of the guest. what information can we tap into that shows in past debates what rules were followed or used during the debates. what resources can we go to, to

follow or review those past debates and what rules were followed? >> good question. one resource that comes to mind immediately we had gone away in this cycle the commission on presidential debate that had been the sponsor the independent sponsor of her presidential debate starting in the early 1980s. the debate commission, i'm sure it is there i'm sure it'snd debate.org has an archive of past presidential debate transcripts one could go if one is interested it's like wait a minute what did they talk about a 1960? and also ascertain the formats, the rules of thele debate how those debates were structured.

i find it fascinating when i am going back and trying to make parallels. for example i was having a discussion yesterday we started with 1960 the very first question in 1960 presidential debate was the age issue of john kennedy at your opponent that said you are too young and inexperienced to be president. and i thought that shrek network we are still on the age issue in this debate. in that debate we noted the number of times the two candidates praised one another and complemented one another. again fierce opponents and pointing out that is vastly different than the political discourse the political dialogue in general and also the political discourse we hear on a presidential debate stage.

i think there's great value in going back and looking at those moments sometimes it raises questions how have we gotten here? where are we now in our civic culture? >> sandra brooklyn, new york democrat good morning. >> good morning. yes professor, i wanted to really find out, do you think from his presidential material? all over the world people are looking at the united states of america as being the number one country. and yet the things trump is doing to this country, he is tearing it apart. not only that people are so busy trying to find out vice president harris what are policies are. and yet you never really seeing them going after trump and his policies.

i am really hoping that tonight they hold his feet to the fire to find out what is his policies? and one more thing i'm hoping they will do a fact check for the first time that they actually do a fact check showing what either one of them are having. next go ahead. >> i appreciate that question in terms of presidential and what is presidential? i would suggest that's what we the voters, we are asked to define. and that is what we do in an election. and to that point donald trump him self it was in a tweaked before he had "truth social." this is going back to 2016 after elected he commented on his

ability to redefine presidential and the new presidential. i think that is some of what he said again on the debate stage that performance gave voters the opportunity to define that. and, as to what is desired, what is acceptable in our president? and another thing the debate moment allows a student unlike any other time in the campaign is to have that ready contrast. it's the only moment arm ag major party candidates are side-by-side it provides as a contrast quite often and sometimes a stark contrast. and then we make a decision. there is another element of what the debate allows to do.

>> professor i want to end it with your advice to both of the candidates if you were asked by the campaign piece of advice would you give them for tonight's debate? ld go back earlier in our discussion. and by the way, very good discussion and i enjoy it responding and being with c-span callers. i will go back earlier in terms of i think there's a different directive imperative for both of these candidates. one for kamala harris to use this opportunity to introduce herself as a potentialse presidt and what she believes her vision and how she will address these important issues that are significant to voters. and as i said she is relatively newof to the scene of a possible

president. donald trump is certainly more well-known. in terms of again those and so therefore i think we are looking to see his ability, how does he comport how does he respond to this new opponents? or does he convince voters that yes, he is a presidential he can and should service return to service as our president over voters decide no, that is too risky we do not want that. that is his imperative i think tonight on the debate stage. >> wright mitchell at mckinney university of akron, dean of the college of arts and sciences but thanks muchy, for joining us today. >> they give enjoyed it very

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biggest issue this election season is probably the bias in the media i feel if we do not have adequate coverage of both parties. we have a very leftist media it might top issues women's rights and reproductive rights. i have a wife, i have two daughters and two sons. the most important thing for me is to make sure my daughters are safe, my wife is safe and every other woman is safe. i am a big believer. >> not just people's rights but every woman has a choice. that is my top issue is the preservation of democracy and freedom. it seems like our freedoms are being eroded. here in the national mall and world war ii museum is right next-door there's a lot of people paying a really heavy price for that freedom and that is what i think we need to focus on. >> i think about whose voting for will center around healthcare and women's rights, our rights to choose, our race to be in charge of our own bodies a