what's on your mind? >> good morning, john. trump talked to us every day. he lied to us every day. i was calling about mike johnson. how much of life and the essence of life must you deny to believe that the earth is 6000 years old? you have to be in denial of earth's history. you have to be in denial of just about anything with ol og y on the end. these are the people that are running our country. if you don't see that as a danger, what's wrong with the taliban? what's wrong with the way they run things in saudi arabia? and those are the questions that the people in america who are smart enough to realize,

realize. that's what i've got to say. >> paul in missouri, our last caller in this open forum. and a very good monday morning to you. go ahead and start calling and now. this is the headline in today's washington post. the white house warns congress of an urgent need for ukraine funding. it was national security adviser jake sullivan in the white house briefing room echoing those warnings yesterday. >> on ukraine, as you've all seen earlier today, ome director shalonda young sent a letter to congressional leaders, which karine was just referencing, explaining that without congressional action the administration will run outa of resources by the end of the year to procure more weapons and equipped for ukraine and to provide equipment from u.s. military stocks without impacting our own military readiness. the resources congress has provided for ukraine and other national security needs have halted russia's advances in ukraine, help ukraine achieve significant military victories, including taking back more than 50% of the territory that russia previously occupied, and by revitalizing our own defense industrial base, jumpstarting and expanding production lines and expanding good paying jobs across the country.

now it's up to congress. congress has to decide whether to continue to support the fight for freedom in ukraine as part of the 50 nation coalition that president biden has built, or whether congress would ignore the lessons we've learned from history and let putin prevail. it is that simple. it is that stark a choice and we hope to congress on a bipartisan basis will make the right choice. there is no magical pod of funding available to meet this moment. as director young said, we running out of money and we are nearly out of time. congress has to act now to take up the president's supplemental request, which advances our own national security and helps a democratic partner in ukraine fight against russian aggression. >> jake sullivan from the white house briefing room yesterday. that letter from the omb director getting this response from the speaker of the house, mike johnson, yesterday afternoon, saying the biden administration has failed to

something we address any of my conference's legitimate concerns about the lack of a clear strategy in ukraine, a path to resolving the conflict or a plan for adequately ensuring accountability for aid provided by american taxpayers. meanwhile he said the administration is continually ignoring the catastrophe at our own border. house republicans have resolved that any national security supplemental package must begin with our own borders. we believe both issues could be agreed upon if senate democrats and the white house will negotiate reasonably. that's the speaker of the house yesterday. this was republican senator ron johnson last week on these issues, talking about border security and ukraine funding. >> we have one leverage point here. the administration wants funding for ukraine. we need to use that leverage be point and we need to make any funds that go to ukraine contingent on the administration actually reducing the number of migrantsn that are being dispersed in america. now since this administration started there's been about over 6 million people, at least 6

million. 1.7 million of that are detected got aways. we have no idea who these people are or where they would be located. we really don't know where the other 5.3 million people are, the ones who were encountered, processed and dispersed. is completely out of control. you have hamas now calling four days of rage. do you think in that 1.7 million or the overall 6 million there may be a bad person or two? it's a clear and present danger. so what the senate must insist on is if they take up a supplemental, if they are looking at funding for ukraine, republicans in the senate must hold firm and deny cloture on any bill that doesn't include benchmarks, hard metrics. again, the metric needs to be number of migrants dispersed into america, whether they are encountered, processed and dispersed or detectable got ve aways, or any other category,

and we need to deny cloture. a bill that doesn't include that hard metric. >> senator ron johnson last week, and today we are expecting that senate majority leader chuck schumer will try to move a bill that will serve as the vehicle for ukraine aid, for additional ukraine aid and other emergency funding as well for israel and for taiwan as well. e after a classified briefing with senators with that emergency aid package that the biden administration is trying to move, that vote expected in the senate today. it is expected to come after a classified briefing with senators. it is bringing president volodymyr zelenskyy expected to address them. >> we are taking your phone calls. randy is up first out of millington, michigan. randy, good morning to you. >> good morning. i would like to start by thanking you and all the other men and women it takes to bring us this program. you are doing a great service.

happy holidays. >> seem to you. what are your thoughts on ukraine? >> i believe we have to definitely support ukraine. that is a real threat to this country. we deny that it is just as important, if not more important than what we did for 9/11. now we are dealing with the gentleman over there in russia that actually has nuclear weapons, has a military and the navy, air force. terrorism is a terrible thing but terrorism is more or less a nuisance, not a real threat to the national security and as far as the administration has been negotiating, to have our goals, we had a goal to eliminate terrorism on 9/11. we still went after them yo because we had to. you have to negotiate with people that are willing and

honest to negotiate. you can't be throwing out these -- we need to support ukraine and i believe that is our top priority. thank you, john, for my time. >> thank you. this is bill in alabama. the line for those who say they are not sure. why is that? >> will, my opinion has evolved. i think no more funding for ukraine until they have an inspector general or someone from intelligence watching where the money goes, where the weapons go. i am really disappointed that our government, the biden administration, is taking money

to pay ukrainian wages for their government. why are we spending so much r money in ukraine guarding their border when our border is wide open? >> bill, if there is a deal that comes together that includes new funding for new border measures, would you then support that along with initially to ukraine? that is kind of the crux of the argument right now. >> well, to be honest with you, i don't trust this administration to do anything they say they're going to do. he is not trustworthy. he should be impeached, and i'm sure he will be. >> that is bill in alabama.

this is michael from lafayette, tennessee. good morning. >> good morning. thank you for taking my call. i completely support the biden administration and the ukraine funding. we need to secure that funding today and get it past. these people are fighting for democracy. if we lose that, there goes western europe and eastern europe. putin will roll right over. im i support biden completely and vice president harris, i think they're doing a great job. i know they will be reelected in 2024. trump is not going to be in thet white house. he will go on trial and hopefully be convicted of his crimes that he is accused of. thank you so much for your time.. >> anthony in iowa. the line for those who say no two additional aid for ukraine. why? >> we should not be given all of these to other countries. we need money for ourselves.

quit giving it away to other countries. i don't care who was the next president. thank you. >> you don't care who the next president will be? we lost anthony. this is john from new jersey. good morning. you are next. >> good morning. i totally support aid to ukraine. we have to defeat putin. it is unbelievable what he is getting away with. he fought in the background with the israeli issue and no one is talking about it too much. i am a republican from the nixon area. i am 75 years old. i don't like the fact that our republican colleagues are raising all of these issues about what is wrong with ukraine. we don't know what is wrong with ukraine but we know we have to defeat russia. we have to absolutely secure

the border. biden has been a disaster. that will cost them the election. at this point, you need two separate issues. >> you talked about the nixon administration and going back to that time. what were your thoughts when you found out henry kissinger died last week? >> he is a great man. they destroyed nixon. he is fabulous people. these are great people who stood up in the middle of the cold war and try to work things out. i don't understand it, frankly. >> an interview with henry kissinger from this past spring with the economists, they say for the safety of europe get ukraine into nato, highlighting

the conversation at the economists had with him just months before he died. what are your thoughts on ukraine joining nato as henry kissinger was advocating for before he died? nd >> he is a smart man. he knows better than i do. of course, you want to do that.t the argument has been that russia has reacted this way because we pledged not to do a it. it is very complicated. russia was supposed to be an ally. it seemed to be working for a while. we have had very good relations, business, all of

that stuff. i am not sure what the turning point was. i am not smart enough to know. putin felt he was threatened with nato expanding in the crimea and georgia, et cetera but he has to be stopped period , end of story. >> that is john from bridgewater, new jersey. the tribute from henry kissinger continuing in today's paper. we showed you a couple yesterday on this program. this is from the wall street journal. henry kissinger on power and morality. he writes for kissinger, the construction pending a repair of a sustainable balance in global affairs was the supreme moral and political challenge especially as nuclear weapons threaten to make great power of war on survivable. it is a restoration of balance required in power at the height of his career, so be it. if it requires more bombs in north vietnam, then send in the

b-52s. any guilt or shame attacked belongs in his view, to those whose follies had left the united states with nothing but bad choices. once america's position in the world has been restored, americans turned in revulsion from the methods and the man responsible for turning the tide. jimmy carter wanted american- born policies on rights. ronald reagan wanted to replace kissinger detente with a more robustly anti-soviet approach. neither camp fully understood that the ability to pursue far- reaching ideological gills with the consequence of kissinger's movement. do you want to read more from walter russell? that is in today's wall street journal. back to your conversation about ukraine and what is happening today on capitol hill. again, a vote to move the vehicle that would be the funding vehicle for additional aid to ukraine. that is planned in the senate

today. this was chuck schumer on the floor of the senate. >> america's national security is on the line around the world, in europe, in the middle east. autocrats and radical extremists are waging war against our values, against our way of life. before the year is out, it is important to pass emergency national supplemental package, providing aid to ukraine, israel, humanitarian aid to civilians in gaza to turn against adversaries in the indo pacific. both parties understand the consequences will be severe if e we fail. just this morning, we want congressional leaders that the absence action from congress, funding to help ukraine, will run out by the end of the year. alarmingly, the process on the national security package has been on ice for weeks.

not because republicans objected to israel aid or aid to ukraine or humanitarian aid to innocent civilians in gaza or the indo pacific but because republicans have injected partisan and extreme immigration measures into the space. let me repeat that. the holdup on the security supplemental has not been over ukraine or israel or the indo pacific but over republican decisions to inject hard right immigration measures into the debate. democrats agree. immigration should be debated and addressed. if republicans want to raise the issue of immigration right now, it is on them to present us with a bipartisan idea. >> chuck schumer. that was back on monday. it has be continuing for weeks and months.

had of this vote, out of this briefing, senator patty murray, demoat from washington saying the administration is out of money to support ukraine. now it is up to congress to act with the overwhelmi partisan w -- either step up or support our allies where we chseto give putin the upper hand. mark warner, the democrat from virginia saying me to pass the assistance package. we must act now. then, jd vance, the senator from ohio, quoting from his letter to the editor. weapons of war are made in america and do not justify sending them abroad. his tweet from yesterday, taking your phone calls this morning as we ask you, do you support additional u.s. aid to ukraine? lines for yes, no or if