♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, this is shooting from the hip. please welcome from second amendment foundation, alan

gottlieb. from florida, congressman cory mills. and your moderator, host of the carl higbee frontline on newsmax, carl higbee. carl: are you ready to do some gun stuff? congress and cory mills -- congressman cory mills and alan gottlieb doing great work challenging basically the biden administration is doing to take away our freedom. i want to get to a little social stuff on guns. first legal. congressman, the left has been waging a war on our gun rights for 60 years. now it is kind of turned to an

atf administrative state because they cannot get it through congress. the supreme court is smacking them down left and right. how are we navigating the administrative state banning things and making laws outside of your body? rep. mills: it would be good -- the fbi has been tracking close enough. we know there has been a continuous asian and weaponization. we have seen whether it was the nsa, which should be repealed. i truly believe in the abolishment of the atf in its entirety. carl: here here. rep. mills: you pay attention to every single word of every single bill text. the second amendment cannot be clearer. it's a shall not be infringed. we have a constitutional and inhalable right to the defense of our family and home and ourselves. what you are seeing is there is a multipronged attack of not only allowing open borders to give millions of people to

stream across and hundreds unknown watchlist as the fbi indicated. these are individuals who are wanting to say more laws and more regulations are going to stop criminals from the laws and regulations they are already violating. it actually stops the american people from their ability to protect themselves. as a constitutionalist -- i consider myself a constitutional conservative. those seven articles, the 27 amendments, is our right and protections. i will die -- fight to my last breath to make sure our second moment is protected because that is what protects our first. carl: the other fundamental thing is you have a significant number of people, not in this room, that believe we will ban guns. we tried that with crack, cocaine, heroin. parmesan cheese, my bed. alan, you are the fundamental

people challenging nearly every single tyrannical thing that comes out of this administration. you have three cases right now at the supreme court. what you have going on? alan: we have 59 cases nationally we are working on a court. we have filed two cert petitions . one on magazine capacity. one challenging illinois's similar ban on so-called assault weapons and magazine capacity. those are at the supreme court. the third one is the federal government's. we won a case challenging their regulations. in the fifth circuit we won. they are not happy about it. they are trying to overturn a victory. it'll be good for us. it will reaffirm our victory and make it national. [applause] carl: congressman, they push

these rules, the atf, sometime states. i live in the socialist republic of connecticut. they are basically trying to take everything for me. they make stupid laws and then say you can't have this anymore. with 1160, the assault weapon ban a connecticut, 68% of law enforcement say they will not enforce that. when you say i'm taking everybody's ar-15's, 30 round magazines, whatever it may be, whatever is fun, who are they going to fight to enforce that? come any people want to knock on your door or my door? rep. mills: we have to go ahead and call this what it is. this is not about policing. it's politics. they are trying to weaken the american people to make us dependent upon the administrative state. they have continued to do this. they thought they could just tax us out of it. they could charge us with these frivolous payments. you have to pay this to own this weapon. you have to pay this to hold and possess your weapon.

then you have these red flag laws that are unconstitutional. i come from the greatest freest state in america, the state of florida. there are a couple of my floridians out there. while everyone in the blue states is talking but the highest regulations, you know as they have? the highest criminality. if you come to our house, you better bring a corner with you. -- coroner with you. this is why it not be infringed, the ability to protect ourselves, the businesses, the american way of life. i wore the uniform. carl wore the uniform. we swore to protect and defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. the greatest threats we have, i have got afghanistan, iraq, somalia, kenya. blown up twice. the person i'm concerned with is

the united states government because they are continuing to be weaponized. we have to stand tall. we cannot be the silent majority. we have to make sure shall not be infringed shall not be carl: he is most threatened when he comes to d.c. rep. mills: i had to wear a bullet-proof vest in the capitol. carl: it is the individual's right to have a gun outside the home. i live in connecticut. i have been trying to get my gun license there for eight or nine years and they will not give it to you. how do we enforce the supreme court's decision? alan: we have lawsuits going on against connecticut and new york. what is interesting, i expect that they would figure out we

will try to be a little less so we can try to get away with it. they did not do it. they doubled and tripled down on laws that are worse. it makes our job easier with court cases. we had one in the ninth circuit where they tried to ban advertising that might reach minors and might entice young people to want to own a firearm in the future. the attorney general end california try to get a panel of judges to hear a case and get it thrown out. they could not get one judge in the ninth circuit to say yes. carl: california. i want to get to the more social aspect of the war on guns. you look at all these mass shootings happening recently, most of them happen in joe biden's gun free zones that he was the original architect of.

the top 10 most dangerous cities are democratically held cities, some in republican states, but they are not prosecuting the bad guys. none of these guys to my knowledge are nra members. how do we fight back on this social matter when all these groups demand action, all these groups with billions of dollars in their pocket, they play the social war of if you do not want to give up your guns, you are for guns but no one is for gun violence. rep. mills: this is where the fake media and fake news comes in. the only report on mass shootings when it fit the narrative. let it be in illegal migrant. let someone of color and watch our fast a runaway from the story. they want to not vilify the actual criminal committing an act which is illegal they want to criminalize our ability to

hold arms. what we are seeing right now is there is this weaponization in an effort to control the narrative and we have to stop being silent majority and we have to be more vocal. as joe biden has already leaked in between his ice cream and hair sniffing, he made it clear our constitution is not absolute. let me tell you something -- let him go walk through arlington, the headstones of people who fought and died for this nation to make sure we could do something worthy of their sacrifices. protecting our rights, our second amendment, our sovereignty and making sure we are not allowing a police state to be weaponized against us and that is what i fight for every single day in d.c. carl: that is a problem. there is not enough politicians to put your name to it. rep. mills: you said politicians. it needs to be statesmen and

representatives. we have to many politicians. carl: 100%. it is an armed citizenry. after the germans bombed pearl harbor -- it is like animal house -- after the japanese bombed pearl harbor, they refused to invade america because they were worried about a gun behind every blade of grass. had we make sure people understand this is the part, the deterrence against maybe not someone breaking into your house but we are talking about people nations getting nuclear weapons the want to do harm to us. how do we encourage people to say to protect yourself? alan: that is a great point you are bringing up. i like to point out when there are international incidents like israel being invaded, all gun sales in the u.s. jump in numbers. people get it when it comes to protecting your home and your country, it is up to you.

any time there is an international incident or national incident that happens with someone being attacked, gun sales go up. the american population gets it. it is the liberal democrats who do not get it. talking about the social part of this, we just had a court case in hawaii, the supreme court of hawaii ruled it overrides the constitution. deal though how spirit says you should not have -- the aloha spirit says you should not have a gun. groups are extremely well-funded, they are outspending the gun rights lobby by millions of dollars. we could not do it without people like you and the audience supporting us. carl: we can invite the aloha spirit to have this conversation. rep. mills: after the october 7

incident, a horrendous incident that took 1200 lives in israel, we saw where the need to be able to defend ourselves was so important. only days after this occurred i could not sit. i have said this before, in october of 2021, i was the only person who went over that sits in the house, october 10 i went over to israel and was very fortunate through our actions to be able to get out 255 americans trapped in various places. at that point, i realized what keeps america, to your point and to your point, safe, free is a well armed, well-trained militia the shall not be infringed of our rights and we should have that as long as i am alive. carl: in the same vein, i was a navy seal, i spent nine years in

and out of iraq. i understand a society that is unarmed, uneducated and untrained can fall to basically anyone. but in the same article that congressman mills is talking about, the liberal left, they cheer when we armed ukraine. we will not even secure our own border until we arm ukraine. we want to give millions of dollars in weapons to every black hole in the world but not take care of our own citizens. yet when we want to own a gun for our protection because they just let 20 million illegals into this country, we cannot have that. alan: it is so blatantly political, their agenda of socialism and controlling lives, gun control is not about controlling guns, it is about controlling people. . that is what their agenda is. fax, figures -- facts, figures, statistics do not matter to

them. all they are worried about is taking away our rights. carl: the constitution is not absolute, you cannot do this or that, to your point, the shall not be infringed is pretty clear. they always say you can have april action rifle. why do you need in ar-15? our founding fathers did not come back from a hunting trip. rep. mills: the way i look at it is this -- i would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six. the bottom line is we do have that right. we are the longest standing -- by the way, not democracy, constitutional republic. i want to make something very clear -- one thing that is clear about this is our constitution is backed up on one key item. our judeo-christian beliefs. are inalienable rights, our god-given rights that exist from god to man -- the biden

administration would say it is from god to government to go ahead and politic and then to man -- our right to defense, free-speech, religion, our right to have a jury of our peers and b tried -- the idea that we have to protect these rights and they will go after the first little fracture. that fracture is our second amendment. i have said this multiple times, our second protects our first amendment. if we allow this to happen we will see more indictments against other americans. they will continue these frivolous indictments like letitia james in new york or fani willis in georgia. this is a hill to die on for every american. we must protect our second amendment. alan: you mentioned the ar-15,

america's most popular firearm. the national media does not want to talk about it. there are people out there every day that use a so-called ar-15 to defend themselves and their family but you never see in our national news. you never see a story where someone sent their family or children -- sometimes going about in the house and their mother because they had an ar-15 for self-defense. it is a one-sided debate in the national media. it is disgusting. carl: most of them do not even know what "ar" stands for. some say assault rifle. the reality is, our millett rifle. it does not fit their narrative. we have to be louder. help to support things like the nra. continue to fight this. we have to control the narrative. we have to control our ability

to control our own rights. rep. mills: democrats are the greatest gun salesman. every time a democrat comes into office they keep driving up the numbers. we are at 400 million -- ricky numbers -- go ahead and buy some more. carl: congressman cory mills, alan gottlieb, we appreciate you coming out tonight. ♪