that the chinese communist party infiltrated the white house of the united states of america through the biden family, i do not take that lightly, it is not a joke, i was willing to die for this country, this is serious stuff. you should be asking how that happened, take the biden name completely out of it. how did the chinese communist party infiltrate the white house, let's start there and focus on those facts, what they did, how they did it, why they use money and private enterprises instead of military stuff, that is huge to national security. i appreciate you yielding that time to me. >> ms. presley criticized the investigation. most americans care about public corruption. the fbi has not done the job,

the doj has not done the job, all that is left is the house oversight committee, we will do our job. votes have been called again. the committee will reconvene five minutes after floor votes.

those. and judges rewrote those laws or even worse. the committee hearing will reconvene, chair recognizes mr. swawell for 5 minutes skwr-tz the committee will reconvene. >> in your interactions with the biden family, you've told us all about it throughout the day, did you ever observe the chinese government grant money to joe biden children while he was in office? did you ever observe the chinese government -- sorry, joe biden, ever own and operate any hotels while in public office? and take millions of dollars from foreign governments? >> i did not. >> did you see joe biden

implore any of his children or their spouses as vice president? >> did you ever observe the biden's install a family member to be co-chair of dnc? >> asked the question again? >> did you observed biden install a family member to chairs the democratic national committee? did anyone take $2 billion from the saudi government? >> not that i'm aware of. >> did anyone in his family to find $355 million for tax fraud? >> not that i am aware of. >> as you have observed, in his dedication and loyalty to the trump family, is that something you recognize as somebody who is in that cold before? is there hope for our man?

>> very little, i think. >> in your experience, on a scale of 1 to 10, how eager was the trump campaign to manufacture dirt on joe biden? >> 10+. >> what it surprise you that the russians in their campaign outlets have often cited chairman comber's testimony and allegations against the biden family to make their own allegations against joe biden? >> that does not surprise me a bit because that is what they want to happen. >> mr. chairman, it's over. it's over. it's time to pack it up. i want to give you the top 10 reasons why impeachment is dead. number 10, your key witness today is testifying from the slammer. number nine, key evidence of the bride that you relied on,

the guy that said that has been indicted for lying about that bribe and is a russian asset. number eight, another key witness has been indicted as a chinese agent. number seven, during the interview, you did not even stay for the whole time. number six, jason schmidt did not show up at all. the same day, number five, darrell isis said that it is a big nothing. number four, jim jordan began his remarks not by relying on any evidence for this investigation and he went off attacking the doj about what they are doing with the catholics. number three, you have not sent the articles of impeachment for the my work is impeachment to the senate and that happened last month. number two, you are not talking about a criminal referral, if you had evidence for a criminal referral, you have evidence to impeach someone for high crimes

and misdemeanors. number one, i'm sorry to say this, fox news is not even carrying this today. one of the anchors broke away 10 minutes in and said, this is the same hearing and over and over and over. at what point are you going to fish or cut bait? it's over. impeachment is over. don. goodbye. lights out. curtain drop. mic drops. peace. a language that you all understand. did i say that right? >> yes. >> i dare you to impeach and you will not because you do not have the evidence and because you do not have the evidence, you do not have the votes. it is dead. and so, i am now here to pronounce the time of death.

5:16. impeachment is dead. joe biden has been acquitted. >> the chair now recognizes ms. linda from florida. >> i want to read a few quotes that you wrote to the house oversight committee, i will remind you that the answers on the report of the house oversight committee published in this document, he has never asked or assigned to speak on anyone. are you aware that the u.s. state department official in the interview with the senate, hunter biden requested a meeting with him in november of 2015. he met with hunter biden and yes or no, the statement that you made was incorrect. >> the statement was correct. >> this is conflicting with testimony.

next question. in your statement that you made to house oversight, are you aware the engagement of the strategies allowing the u.s. government according to sally painter the heads of charisma. the statement was incorrect, yes or no. >> you are incorrect. >> it's okay, chairman, i've got him. the corporate secretary of burisma sat down for dinner with joe biden and that statement was incorrect but you wrote to the committee, yes or no. >> i would like to give the remaining of my time to the amazing representative from florida. >> the democrats could've sent anyone. they could've sent hunter

biden, joe biden, rob walker, the democrats could've sent any person to, and refute the direct evidence backed up by bank statements, calendar entries, backed up by emails, backed up by text messages, who did the democrats send to clear the name of joe and hunter biden? he was charged with enough crimes violating the campaign finance laws to serve 50 years, he gets four months. the grand conspiracy he is involved in is using russian oligarch money to get marijuana licenses. that seems odd. using that russian money to plow into campaigns in order to achieve that objective. the fraud that he committed was not on the election system, it was also a fraud on investors

who did not get it. as you hear maxwell frost say that fresh off of his prison time is the most credible witness we have had to address these business dealings, what is your reaction to that? >> it is laughable that the democrats are asking him to weigh in on my credibility, a convicted felon, that served jail time with an impeccable record. he warned me that they are coming for me. i look forward to that. >> is that a threat? did you say that they are coming for me? >> i said that if you keep lying you will end up in prison. >> you don't even know what you're talking about. >> for lying and defrauding

your investors. >> the list is long, we do not have enough time. >> you are a little scared. mr. gates has not even asked the question. we have been here for six hours and not one committee member has asked me a question. >> i asked questions about your legal business dealings. >> fraud is a crime. >> you observed fraud on part of the bidens. >> i have an independent law firm that spent $300,000 to analyze that fraud and put together a lawsuit against the biden family. >> bribery is a crime, correct? >> what you observed with joe biden trying to get you into this business deal with hunter biden that we learned about the business deal and how the money was flowing from the chinese communist party to hunter biden and other members of the biden

family, did that concern you as a potential feature of money laundering? >> it did. i started to grow concerned after i met joe biden and then i sat down with jim biden. i went back to my lawyers and i asked them, something is starting to feel on right and they hired another law firm to give me a full workup to go through the details of what could be done and what could not be done. >> high crimes and misdemeanors. i yield back. >> the chair recognizes the chairwoman of the house education committee, dr. fox from north carolina. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to thank my colleagues for what you have been doing here today. unraveling these issues. in your written testimony you state that you are trying to build a device averred equity platform for a wall street brand together with a political

name, biden. is it correct that the harvest fund management, the financial services company, closely connected to the communist party was interested in partnering with you in your business partners? >> yes. that's correct. >> why was the cefc interested in doing business with you and your partners? >> the only plausible reason was because of the access that was provided. henry zou i talked about the access provided. there was contemporary what the interest was. >> thank you.

is it correct that joe biden would take a seat on the company board after his presidency ended? >> yes, that is correct. those were circulating as part of the conversation. >> thank you. >> are you aware of hunter biden ever speaking to his father about the plan to join the board of harvest fund management? >> yes. >> it is clear that joe biden was aware of his family's use of his office to influence and do business with america's adversaries any choice to pursue personal gain over national security. is it true that former vice president joe biden met with the chairman of c efc china energy?

>> i personally was not at that meeting. >> when did this meeting take place based on what mr. walker said? >> it would've been february of 2017. after they had a meeting in miami. james gilliard got on the corporate jet of cefc and flew to d.c. in preparation for that meeting. >> after this meeting with former vice president joe biden, where any payments made to the biden family or associates? >> $3 million was wired to rob walker's account on march 1st. they sent two wires. the first got kicked back in and they sent a second on march 1st, 2017 and then as the committee has shown today, they portion that out to the biden family in different payments. >> it is clear that joe biden is the common element in all of

hunter biden's attempts to do business with china. the biden family and associates, including joe biden himself deliberately chose personal gain over the safety of the americans joe biden was elected to serve, protect, and defend. i will yield the balance of my time to mr. gates. >> do you think some your business associates that we have spoken to today, do you think they had an expectation of any role or involvement in any of your joint business dealings? not an expectation for me. there is not a single time i remember saying, let's get my dad involved her on the phone. hey, what can we get out of dad for this. what is your reaction to the testimony from hunter biden? >> it is false.

i think there is documentation that says it is an untruthful statement. >> what i'm trying to understand, there you are, sitting in a prison cell for a financial crime where you were an associate with hunter biden and some of the other players there, they are out enjoying southern california and you are sitting in a prison cell. they have the ability to give this false testimony to congress. is it your opinion that the justice department's retaliates against those who speak out about their crimes. >> i am leaving that. i took responsibility for my crimes, i have rehabilitated myself quite a bit during that time. i would say that is unquestionably the pattern.

this is the lived experience that i have gone through. >> i yield back. >> for what purpose does mr. biggs seek recognition? >> i would like to add an article into the record. the call against trump. >> for what purpose, mr. gates? >> i have consent to enter into the record the press release for the department of justice, without objections ordered. chernow recognizes mr. woltz from florida. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i find it incredibly rich that he will come to this committee and lecture us about how china penetrates our government. that is something he might know a thing or two about. how has china penetrated the

highest levels of this government. the visual is incredibly important. hunter biden portrayed the chairman of cefc as a protigi . is that accurate? >> was not just hunter biden, it was rob walker. i would not use the word protigi. you don't run the largest state energy company without being close to the chairman. >> in the 2000's, he ran a business empire with tens of billions. including from a national security standpoint, the critical piece here. implementing the initiative not just all over the world, right here in the united states, is that accurate?

>> 100%. cefc was the shadow arm of the chinese government around the world. very well documented. at the peak, doing $50 billion of revenue during the year. >> that diplomacy when they are taking electrical goods and as collateral. airports, clean infrastructure that the chinese government can leverage and use against any country and also here in the united states. that is how the initiative works. i was in the armed services committee, of pacific command talking about how china is gobbling up infrastructure around the world, including here. by 2015 and 2016, hunter biden has a lucrative business relationship. by 2017, he has such a

partnership that he planned to share an office space with him and removed vice president biden in washington, d.c. correct? here is what is interesting. within days of him leaving the vice presidency, for work performed for $3 million through these companies that we have depicted here. you can see how complicated this is. the key piece is a flow to holly biden. to hunter biden and his various affiliates. and the kicker here, mr. chairman, we know that hunter is complaining about paying all of his dad's bills.

new freeloaders, to use all this money to pay the big guys bills, house renovations and all kinds of things. correct? >> it's important for the american people to understand, $3 million for the work in 2015 and 2016. that is not just my word, that is documented. >> bank records, text messages, emails. bob mendez's wife cannot get paid by the egyptians and provide that money. i cannot have my daughter paid by cause it's done, russia, and pay my bills. when we talk about crimes, let's talk about the crimes. he perjured himself and was acting as a foreign agent, was he registered as a foreign agent? >> not that i am aware of.

>> that is a crime. >> 100%. >> that is crime number two, he was clearly acting in that capacity. we are to have him thanks to the work of this committee for tax evasion, there are multiple crimes that this committee has established ample evidence. we must move to impeachment and we cannot allow this to stand. i look forward to the references of the department of justice. this is a security issue. they call this the print slings. it is right out of their play will book and they have done in the highest levels of the united states government. >> one is from devon archer

testifying that joe biden had nothing to do with any of his business ventures. second is the declassified intelligence committee from the council in march 2021 detailing efforts to interfere in the 2020 u.s. elections. most importantly, the district court decision from new york in the united states versus glamis where he was described as a con artist that wanted to be in business with hunter biden but never was. if i can have those introduced. >> without objection, so ordered. now the chair recognizes mr. gates, from florida. >> you are a serious business person, right? unlike the convicted felon next to you, you have served in the military, correct? you have done big deals.

complicated deals that involve foreign businesses, right? what i'm trying to figure out, when you came to realize that you showed up at the wrong party, you strike me as a guy that showed up to do a legitimate business deal and ended up instead at a bribe. as you are looking at cefc and having this meeting, as hunter biden is introducing you to his contacts, when did you go from serious businessman to a guy worried that you are ensnared into the bribe operation with the chinese communist party. >> i appreciate the question, it was not an aha moment, it was more of a process. the different deals that i've done around the world and the success of them. the biden family was not my entry into this.

james gilliard who i have known for 10 years kept trying to get me involved, i have no interest. i sat down in the spring of 2017 to work through things that i put together to businesses. after the meetings in los angeles with hunter and joe biden, bells and whistles started to go off when he used the term, plausible deniability, that is the first moment right on the heels of your discussion where you start to think, this might not be legit. >> correct. my lawyers at the time can attest to that because i reach out to them, listen, i am a former naval officer, i cannot have someone take me to dinner for $50, this does not make sense to me. >> later this thing starts to

get a lot uglier. you are analyzing this, now you know, this is a crime that you are bearing witness to. >> the end of july when they were put right front and center in a transaction with cfc, a surrogate for the chinese communist party. >> the deals you were involved in where you started to see the money move around the business enterprise towards the pockets of the bidens? >> the challenge with that, at the time, they move the money, you have the text messages where he shot down the -- that does not make sense to me, where is the money, i had lawyers to dissolve the two entities, i did not know that they had gone paid all of this

money and all of this craziness. >> it is a bribe. >> was a bribe from the chinese communist party. i don't say that lightly. there are 1200 pages, eight days of testimony. i encourage everyone watching me and hearing me say this, they are publicly available, go read them. the department of justice outlines in intimate detail the bribes that they were deploying. all over the world. i believe they did this and every other country, with the biden family, it was pristine, a clean business, that is absurd. you came to know that, that is when you blew the whistle and started to get worried. >> i cannot give them kudos enough for the bravery.

i am voicing the concern of the deal. >> you saw that this was not just a corrupt bribe or business deal, everybody is making a big deal like you are a bad guy. you are trying to give life to these facts that you have endured. observing this, it seems like it would be unpatriotic for you to stay quiet. >> of course. >> joe biden running for president clearly motivated the chinese, did this also motivate you? >> i did not want to go public, i wanted to unload the facts and personal experiences, there are 15 people in this community with law degrees. first-hand testimony is the most powerful evidence that you have. i have given it, along with a host of other witnesses. then on top of that, thousands

of documents and pages of weevils and stuff like that. congressmen and senators, nobody brought a fitting single piece of evidence that for a moment discredited any of the evidence you have given us. i yield back. >> that concludes the questioning. i want to thank the witnesses. we are going to close now. i will give it to the ranking member. >> well, well we are on mr. gates, you are upset about a few different things which is fraud, that is fascinating to me considering that donald trump has been convicted of insurance fraud in the civil case. 454 million unless that has gone up with interest. to pay f making that, but i'm sure mr.

gates' constituents will help them out when they are shaking down republican voters to pay for donald trump's criminal lawyers or civil lawyers. he is also upset about china. well, if you check out the democrats report, princes, prime ministers paid off president trump. you will find china gave more than $5 million to donald trump when he was president of the united states and direct violation of the clause that says nobody in federal office shall accept a payment, office, or title of whatever kind or whatever from the king, prince, or foreign state and we spent the day jawboning about hunter biden who has never held public office and has never done a business with a foreign government, yet we have right in front of our very eyes, mammoth corruption unprecedented in u.s. history by donald trump and my friends don't say a single word about it emma but he wants to lecture

mr. parnas about the illegal donations he made on bro -- behalf of pro-trump super pac's. people have this enthralled themselves and have gotten out of the trump colts, as mr. parnas puts it, people like michael cohen, there are articles about them. there are dozens of those people . i would be fleeing for the exits now too. what is so fascinating about it, they don't mind when these people lie for donald trump. when they get out and tell the truth, that is when they call them liars for what they did when they worked for donald trump. mr. parnas, they are not lied -- mad that you lied and went to prison. they are mad that you stopped lying for president trump. >> absolutely. >> when i was the state

attorney general, i saw a judge say, son, you forgot the very first rule of lawyering. when you go to court, you've got to bring the evidence with you. you forgot to bring the evidence. there is no evidence. hundreds of thousands of pages of documents, dozens of hours of testimony but not a shred of evidence of presidential wrongdoing much less an impeachable offense by president biden. you are making not just the majority laughingstock, the whole committee laughingstock. it is hurting us. y when will we call off this nonsense? here we are. again, mr. parnas, thank you. you have explained to america the allegations at the very foundation of this inquiry were based on russian propaganda and disinformation just as you did at the start of the hit job you and rudy giuliani were sent to do in 2018. i want to thank you for showing america what real intellectual honesty and personal honesty look like and how you can grow out of the deranged trump

syndrome so many of our colleagues are still suffering from today. it is time to call this investigation what it is, mr. chairman. it is not just an embarrassing, historic failure, but a historic betrayal of democracy, freedom, and the rule of law as vladimir putin tramples on the freedom of the people in ukraine. we should spend our time standing up for democracy, not tarnishing it with spectacles like this. i yield back. >> i want to thank our witnesses for being here today. mr. bobulinski , mr. galanis have delivered testimony in front of the american people directly implicating president biden and his family's influence peddling schemes, schemes that brought over $24 million into the biden family and their business associates' pockets. for what? i never heard the minority say what they did, or what business the bidens were in.

mr. bobulinski and mr. galanis have provided documents supporting these claims and provided hours of testimony to this committee. mr. bobulinski and mr. galanis have not changed their stories. mr. bobulinski and mr. galanis did not ask for this hearing but they showed up for it because they have nothing to hide. i also invited hunter biden to this hearing. in part due to his own request that he be allowed to provide transparency and testimony before the american people. or at least he did request this hearing. then he sat for a deposition with the oversight and judiciary committees. now he is nowhere to be found. mr. bobulinski, mr. galanis, and others have implicated joe biden in the biden family business. hunter biden denies his role in the biden family business. this is a material discrepancy among witnesses in the highest order. i attempted to solve

this problem by getting the witnesses in the same room together to straighten out any misunderstandings. it should be clear to the american people that hunter biden's word is just as valuable as the fake services he was selling. this committee will not play games or belittle the institution of congress by allowing hunter biden to call the shots about who he testifies with, or when he does it. at this point, the only person who can resolve this discrepancy about joe biden's participation in his family's influence peddling schemes is joe biden, himself. as i said at the beginning of this hearing, joe biden was used by his family over and over again, paraded in front of his business partners to rake in millions of dollars, or he knew exactly what he was doing to enrich his family. joe biden was either complicit or incompetent. the american people deserve to know which one it is. which one

it was. but neither is acceptable for the leader of the united states. i don't think anyone believes that this is acceptable behavior for the family of the president of the united states to receive tens of millions of dollars from our adversaries around the world and they can't say one single thing they did to receive the money. nobody supports that. i don't care if you are democrat, republican, or if you are from a big city, or a small town. that is not what democracy is about. that is not what the founding fathers set this up for. to set this up so we could have public servants come provide public service and the line. they did not set this up for public servants to enrich themselves through their family , through influence peddling. no one is denying -- is anyone

denying the biden family was influence peddling? no one was denying the family was influence peddling. what we have here is a major discrepancy on what role joe biden played. we know the three former biden associates say joe biden was actively involved and knew full well what the schemes were, what the family was up to. but we have hunter biden testifying under oath that his dad didn't know. so in the coming days, i will invite president biden to the oversight committee to provide his testimony and explain why t his family received tens of millions of dollars from foreign companies with his assistance. we need to hear from the president himself and i assure the american people they will be able to evaluate for themselves the president's honesty and fitness for the

office he now holds. with that, -- >>ld wait, mr. chairman. will you invite donald trump to come? >> y'all have investigated donald trump for years and i'm sure i have written a lot of papers that no one has investigated. >> you are invited to impeach joe biden. >> are you going to work with me to see that joe biden comes and answers these discrepancies? these are big deals. >> there are no discrepancies. there is no evidence at all he has any high crime or misdemeanor. what is it? >> in closing, i want to thank the panelists for their insightful testimony today. with that and without objection , all members will have five legislative days to submit materials and additional written questions to the witnesses, which will be forwarded for response. if there is no objection, the

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