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four, live coverage of the iowa caucuses as theinal pitches to a caucus-goers. follow the campaign analysis with caucus experts who will get your social media reaction. watch our live iowa campaign coverage on monday on the c-span ■ o.iunetwor, c-spanmobile app t c-span.org/campaign 2024. c-span, your unfiltered view of politics. >> good evening and welcome to c- coverage. we are counting down to the iowa caucus with three days to go before iowa republicans vote in the first of the nation presidential contest. evening we will bring you the latest from the ground in iowa as the wehewrench in the pe candidates and the media covering them. we will talk about how the
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dangerous conditions are impacting the race. we'll also hear from the candidates. we will preview the caucus, and of course, get your thoughts on the presidential contest. here's how joithe co 202-748920 democrats 202-748-8921. iowans only -- all others dl in at 202-748 -8923. you can join us on x or on facebook.com/c-span. cold temperatures are forecasted for sunday and monday. this caucus is on track to be coldest in the contest's 52 year history. the forecastedin -25. the previous coldest was in 1972
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when it was -21. in iowa today,as discouraged by state authorities. candidates canceled some or all of their events.
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scheduled. today we saw nikki haley have to cancel events. she tried to do tele-town halls. ron desantis, some of his events were canceled. he did■ make it out to a couple of stops but it is really treasurers. as you noted, the authorities are telling people not to drive. even iowa are used to severe winter weather and used to snow on the ground, they are going they do not nt impact turnout on monday night when it is going to be really frigid. it's going to be dangerous. if that weather. so the campaigns have to grapple with those questions but we are starting to see that turnout will probablystate who have worked caucus is for many years are also predicting that. and so it couldturnout much lesn 2016 when there were about
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180,000 iowans who caucused with republicans that year. host: what are the candidates saying if anything at all about how they may scramble to get thei yeah, so the trump campaign claimed they had "old-school methods" to get le out to the caucuses, which could mean getting people rides. a lotcampaigns, all they can really do is tell people please brave the cold, be safe and use your best judgment. but this is really important. ;s■today on her virtual town ha, nikki haley was telling folks, please bring layers, if you have to stay in line because they are checking party registration and things like that. bring layers in case you a she -- i'm a south carolinian,
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this is cool for me but i will be out in the cold all weekend out. so, they are asking people just to put on a brave face, show up, and cast their ballot on monday night for these candidates. host: let's take a look at the latest polls, done by insider advantage. just yesterday. it shows that the former president at 51%. florida governor ronestis 17%, tied with the formesoh carolina governor nikki haleyt 17%. and ramwa at 7%. let's talk about exptaons >> the expectation is clearly that this is donald trump's to lose, he is over 50%. he has been for months and months and months. people like desantis has spent
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week after week after week, holding events in iowa, and it has not shifted the dynamic of this race. nikki haley, yes, she has managed to catch up and#3 supprs desantis in the race but no one in the polling, even -- no one in3l the polling so far has been able to eat into trump's lead. we saw early on the polling candidates trade-off leads here and there we have seen people drop out of the race. trying to campaign really hard in iowa and weren't getting anywhere. but ultimately, this is going to most likely, barring really uned circumstances, this is probably going to be a donald trump victory. and the others are very much nikki haley, they areace.
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locked in an intense fight right now. the super p'■' supporting them in their campaigns are spending millions on attack ads. if you look upon tv at any given moment you're likely to see o attack ad,ey or ron desantis, calling them a liar in■ some cases or the wrong position on china. and these two candidates are talking about each other. and they are getting questions about each other. we are very much seeing nikki haley and ron desantis with elbows out for each other because they both know that second place is ait is, as, in l world, we call it a ticket out of iowa. any year there is maybe ticketsu have viability for the rest of the race. you've a case to make■r in new hampshire. and from there, of course, how you might say in south carolina or in nevada.
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for this year, it is really important for someone like ron desantis to get in second place in iowa. he has spent many months here. he has basically staked hiwhole. his performance here. if nikki haley manages to come in second place, after rea starf energy towards the end of this face, that is not going to be a good time for-- good sign f's c. host: desantis's, his campaign, the candidate has made a stop in all 99 countie reference to theo makes it a tradition to visit all 99 counties. talk about his ground game versus the other candidates. >> ron desantis had a backing of a super pac called never back down that since the summer have sent folks knock on doors all across iowa. they have spent many months touting their field operation.
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the calls they are making, the doors they are knocking, what they call caucus commitment cards, where they get people in the parking lot or even at their doorsteps somewhere to fill out this card, saying i'm going to caucus for ron desantis. that's a common tradition. people have done that for years. but when you have someone filling out that card in august, there it is hard to guarantee tt those people who told ron desantis's field staff months ago they would caucus for him,at those people will show up monday night at -20 temperatures. but ron desantis has had the benefit t most sophisticated ground game in iowa, compared to the other candidates. nikki haley in the last several weeks has had -- the conservative group that is funded by the koch network that endorsed her. and they have a decent network
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here. that they are group that already had an interest structure here. they know what they are doing. but she has only been doing that for the last months and a half. the question is, is early enoua republicans -- keep an open mind by the time the haleyks were coming around. trump campaign have been relying a lot on the volunteer network of grassroots■s activist who talk to their neighbors and their friends. there is an argument to be made that maybe that is just as effective as paying someone to knock on strangers doors. we wille monday whose ground game paid off, who's able to get voters or caucus-goers to come on monday in unprecedented conditions. host: after iowa we have learned
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that the florida governor said he wvote -- go right from iowa to south carolina. why that move? >> well, traditional you would go to new hampshire. that is what you'll see the rest of them doing. donald trump has scheduled a relic, nikki haley will be in new hampshire immediately after iowa. but ron desantis ignored new hampshire for most of this -- as a result he is not pulling -- polling very well. this is a strategy by their campaign to show that he has a better chance in south carolina. so they are really going to go all in on south carolina. going to catch up with nikki haley in new hampshire because that is a lost cause. there is a little over a week until the new hampshire primary, and■ there is not enough time fr ron desantis to make up the grounds that he lost the argument is that he is a case to make to south carolina voters. in a state not too far away. the electorate in south carolina is more open to the politics of ron desantis than more
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independent minded voters purchase a painting in new hampshire. the campaign is saying, we are not out of it yet, even if potential he does get in second place in iowa, this is an attempt by them to say, we are still in this race, we have a strategy. it is not ideal, but theyay, het getting out soon. host: to follow her reporting, go to politico.com. thank you for your time. appreciate it. of course, we want to hear from all of you we want you to join the conversation and letsnow your thoughts about campaign 2024, the presidential contest, the first in the nation caucus about to kick off on monday night. republicans voting in that contest, register republicans voting only in their caucuses. start dialing in. because we want to get to your calls. you can join us on x or on
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facebook.com. voters we want to hear from you tonight especially. what is it like to live in your state especially with this weather? the ads acaucus? how will you get out in those frigid temperatures to your local caucus? all of that this evening here in this hour on c-span. a reminder of who is on the ball ot in iowa. on the republican side, you have come as we said the former president, the former u.s. ambassador to the united nations and south carolina governor nikki haley, florida governor ron desantis, and businessman vivek ramaswamy as well pin asa hutchinson is also going to witn though he dropped out of the race this week. ryan binkley. and then will be an option for othe democrats are not holding a caucus for voting on the president. they are a caucus for party business.
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but, today they mailed out this ballot, because they are having an entirely mail -in system in the state of iowa. they mailed this out to registered democrats and they have until march 6th to get these ballots back■8 and the results will be announced after super tuesday. and you can see on the ballot there is the president joe biden, maryann williamson and dean phillip calls. jimmy in texas, your thoughts on campaign 20 tony for. -- 2024. caller: i have three poin toake. one, are you any better offer the present administration then with trump? ask if any candidates would give up their salary to donate to charity like president trump did ? number three, yeah, number three, ifou think that this
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meant is the right-- this man is the right person, then you do not know what -- he means t god? host: we will hear from a democrat, lawrence -- stephen and lawrence, kansas. g-- in lawrence, kansas. caller: hi, greta. enjoy this on a friday night. i would emphasize that this thing is not over at all. i think nikki haley is sort of street out of central casting, and she is running within the margin of error in new hampshire. it would be very important for her to have a strong showing and i think ron desantis is probably done at this point. the quicker that he steps down and gives his supportive nikki, the better chance she will half of pulling off an epic upset.
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to think this is all over and it does not matter but this does matter. get out there and vote no matter who you vote for, but keep your eyes on nikki haley.
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y be able to pull off an all-time upset. greta: what you think about her chances in the general election? she likes to say when she is campaigning that in match up wie president, she wins by 17%. caller: right. and, also, she has the backing, i know it is controversial but she has a money backing of the koch brothers, plus, like you said, she appeals to all sortsbr
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the republicans of what you would think and ideal candidate would look like. just don't understand what everyone thinks this race is over. it is not over at all. we have got to pay attention. even if you are a trump supporter, get out and vote because people love to call these things and you believe the stuff that happens in politics. greta: steven, you are calling on the democratic line. if tre election -- between the current president nikki haley, how would you vote? caller: oh, boy. you sure got me there. i would definitely consider a third party at this point. i would probably go third party. it depends who the republican nominee would end up being, but labels or someone like that,
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where i could make, have a more range of decisions, let me put it that way. greta: steven, thanks for watching. john, in rochester, new york. republan. caller: hi, greta. it is nice to see you on tonight. i've got to say i -- i'm disappointed.i thought the formt trump would make it out there no matter what. he's got everything going on with the tele-rallies, it looks like. even everything clobbered until sunday. you can't find the tel on anything, or any of the social media. through c-span. greta: john, you should go to his website because they are streaming those types of things on their website. speaking of candidates having to
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cancel, there was one candidate who has been determined to get out across iowa today and that is vivek ramaswamy. he sent out a tweet at 8:24, saying george washington braved the weather, crossed the delaware. another snow day in iowa, another day of events for us. the first event starts in on r, and we wi continue as long as we can physically make it. he has four set up and througho the day he has been tweetingt certain places, talking to people along the way. he has had supporters show up at his events. and then there was this tweet sent out by tricia maclachlan, an advisor to maswamy's campaign, a 60 minute tn hall from -- in the middle of a blizzard in iowa this is my favorite town hall vivek has ever done by far. vivek ramaswamy has not only visited everyiowa, but he has done it twice.
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governor ron desantis, he was able to get out this morning before conditions worsened. he went to the northside conservative club this morning along with governor kim reynolds, who endorsed him. here is some of what they had to say to voters. >> and leadership does matter. not ly, but i can tell you it matters in florida as well. this morning i had the opportunity to not only introduce a good friend, a c grd husband, and somebody that i have a lot of respect for that i was proud to endorse and that is governor ron desantis. we got to and some of us republn governors were out there on an island and it was certainly true for ron. i had so much respect for not only the courage, had to bring experts to the table to listen
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to what his constituents -- to put hisd do the right thing under unbelievable pressure from not only the media but from the administration. and i think, you know, as we look at hindsight, those were the right decisions and we've because of that. i have a lot of respect for him for that the other thing i admire, too. i'm a get her done governor. i do not know slow,ethoughtful,s sustainable, but go big, go bold, and let's make a difference for the people we serve and we hcenly seen that from him down in florida as well. he's got a phenomenal record. look at it. follow-through 100% with what he said he would do. ■& what we need, somebody that has a record that will step in on day one and get this country back on track. so, if, i can tell you you will love what ron will do
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for this country. please join me in welcong the next president of the united states, governor ron desantis. [applause] ♪ gov. desantis: thank you, good morning. good to see you all. thanksintroduction. thanks for her endorsement and most important, thanks to governor reynolds for being one of our nation's great governors. guys are very fortunate to have her and the leadership as well as the great legislators here in iowa. what i run into the iowans, they like coming f but they are very happy with what is going on in iowa. you're lucky because that's rare in this day and age, even a lot republicans are not following through with what they say, either. the democrats have done a horrib job. so, you have kim reynolds. you guys should be very very, feel fortunate for that.
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i'm really impressed that so many people came out given the weather. we are going to be, i'm going full speed ahead with whatever we have. we want. if it is not safe, we will do what we do. i get that going forward. i do i have a fight -- have our five-year-old son with us. a months ago he had never seen snow and now he is in a blizzard. i did promise and whenever we get a break in the action today, he is going to be able to do a snowball fight with me. we're going to figure out where we can get that done and make it happen. i'm excited to be here. i am excited we have to run up tohe caucus. i think the choice is simple. donald trump's running for his issues. haley's on the donors issues. i am roaming -- i am running for your family and running to turn this country around. i'm only one running thatas delivered on 100% of the promises i made. these are things that people have been talking about for years as republicans.
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they run on it;i and neveriveree board. i'm also the only one running who has actually beaten the left and the democrats, time again. i'm sick of republicans losing. you look at what is happening in washington. another failed budget bill, massive increase in spending. not dealing■y with the border. all of these things, where they campaign one way, and they do not do -- the democrats seem to win. it is like lucy with the football. in floor to, that is not how it works. greta: governor ron desantis earlier this the weather worsen, the super pac that is backing him has other events on the books for him to attend but they had to cancel those. as we said the weather has thrown a wrench and candidates' plans, and the media as well publications on the ground in iowa all stuck in the snow, not able to get out and cover these
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candidates. vening, we are getting your thoughts on campaign 2024. and joining us from iowa is rick in spencer, iowa. where's owacaller: in the northn of iowa. greta: ok. w would you describe your political philosophy? caller: my political philosophy is primarily independent, but i am going to caucus for the first time in my life this year. greta: and why? caller: why? s ■zbeeuse i've seen enough over the last 10 to 15 years, where it is timeor p■eople at it involved, to make the points and get our voices heard. greta: so, which candidate or what is motivating you to come out and caucus? caller: the candidate that has
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motivated me is ramaswamy. very strong on the constitution. very strong on his plan to make america great again. and■q just move the country forward. greta: and why not the former president? you just use his tag lcaller: ir president will not be allowed or will not be able to get to the final ballot in the general election. greta: ok. so, you plan to make it out on caucus night when it is going to ■oome record temperatures with the wind chill. how will you stay warm? caller:here is no such thing as bad weather, only bad gear. greta: ok. caller: dress warm and being ready for the weather. greta: ok. so, you have to register as republicans are at have you already done that? caller: i have already done that, yes.
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greta: and you know where to go, you know what the plan is? what is it for those that don't know. caller: it's the spencer middle school here spencer, iowa. and th is where basically all of the county's precincts are meeting. greta: and what you think turnout will be like? caller: i think it will be light, but as i said, it's my first time caucusing, so i really do not have any perceptions of what it will be. but i think it will be very interesting and i think there will be more people out than the news media thinks. greta: old are you if you do not mind my asking? caller: i am 58. greta: and you have always lived in iowa? caller: no, i've lived in north dakota and minnesota and texas but mainly in iowa. greta: how long have you been in iowa? caller: this time about 20 years. greta: all right,. rick, independent. he's going to caucus.
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he's changed his registration. first time caucus-goers, thanks for calling in. daniel and dubuque, iowa. caller: this iseta: would you bn monday night? caller: i hope to. i think the roads will be cleared by then. we have two days to get the roads cleaned. it's going to be cold but iowans are used to it. caucus for or how you will vote? caller: i'm thinking about desantis because i just heard him on tuesday and i like his views. i question that he should ask nikki haley. she brought up, desantis said he wants to be president for our issues. and one issue i am concerned about is contraception. and nikki haley said she wants to increase access to
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contraception. i d't k, because the world health organization has declared the contraceptive pill a category 1 equal to tobacco smoke, radiation and asbestos. so, it's even on the, pill label, it says it can cause heart attacks or cancer. so, i think why would a s harmful to women? greta: ok, so, daniel, your candidate is governor desantis. how many times have you gone out to events to see him, shake his hand and hear him speak? caller: just once. in dubuque on tuesday this week. greta: did you ever make it out to any other candidates'event? caller: c-span on our watch all of the different candidates speak. greta: we're glad you are watching.
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we appreciate ath. i do not think, i think just be another four years of what he went through. he is being attacked, a lot of false accusations against don'tl of that again. i think we need somebody new, somebody that will do many of the things he promises to do. but they won't be attacked as much. greta: ok. daniel in iowa. another caller, mark, a hi, mark. caller: how are you? greta: well. mark, what is your plan for caucus night? caller: i will be caucusing in black rock county in northeast iowa for former president trump. greta: ok. and have you gone to rallies or events that he has held in the state? caller: yeah, matter-of-fact on
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the fox -- greta: townhall? caller: townhall. it was actually quite nice. i thought he performed quite well. it was the first time ever met either a current or former president. i was stokedi still have a lot t for mr. trump. i know he has gone through a lot and i know that he -- people tend to be a bit of -- he tends to be a rabble-rouser but i think he is the strongest candidate from the republican side. greta: did you ever go out and listen to any of the other candidates in iowa? caller: i did. i had, i'm in cedar falls, adjacent to waterloo. i saw vivek at local barbecue place and he absolutely was, was wonderful. truly i think he is the future of theepublican party. i actually saw ron desantis a couple of weeks after that, the same place. again, very, very quality candidate.
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matter fact, i'm pretty happy with all of the candidates, but ultimately i have to make one single choice the one concern i have aboutruwill only be able to serve one term. and he needs to, i wish i would uestion on wednesday, needs to make sure that there is an heir apparent. i do not want him to necessarily rip on■ph ther current candidates or other current candidates because they may be the future. and that is one of the reaso why think vivek is more, i think the favorable to me, just because i think he's younger and his ability to potentially serve two terms or be obviously a very quality next candidate. greta: mark, what is it like to turn on the television in iowa? well, not too physically difficult -- [laughter]
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that was a good, that was a good play. caller: i'm fully capable. but, yeah, i think i know what you're talking about in regards to the commercials. and there are plenty of commercials but the one thing i was a little bit -- is more annoying than the le really text messages that we get from all of the candidates. once you actually go to one of their rallies andline and intro, you're on their list. i routinely come ink 25 text messages and emails from all the republican candidates. despite the fact that he did n'm actually receiving text messages frare you looking forward for ts contest move on to another state? caller: i really am. i know, but it is what it is.
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you have to accept that. we are part of the united states. although we may not be the most representative of the states but we are pretty validating in regards to what we do. especially from an integral cultural point of view and an educational point of view, too. i have a feeling probably some of the press -- and probably some of the candidates because, when they spend so much time here, i think the issue is that they don't have the opportunity to get out to other states, and that is really important for them. greta: mark, w appreciate the phone call. watching as well. we will, of course, have coverage of one of the republican caucuses on monday night. we'll preview the caucus starting at 7:30 p.m. eastern time on monday night. we will of the caucus on c-span, unfiltered, uninterrupted at 8 p.m. when the proceedings get
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underway. on c-span2, we're going to do what we are calling a caucus cast. we will have two experts giving us real time analysis, historical context, play-by-play takes of what you are seeing on the is happening at a caucus. that's monday night. join us on c-span and c-span 2 for that. eric in louisiana, republican. thanks for watching. what is your take on campaign 2024 so far? caller: we, i've been watching and i have been hoping that we get our first black president obama. have've never voted in m. but if i would i would vote for nikkivs haley because e is the best for the job. donald trump is worst
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president we ever had. and i don't want him back in the office of -- i don't want m the simple reason he is a crook. i'd vote for nikki haley because she has got,ñp she makes some good, what's that word i'm trying to use? she makes a good, made a good -- only conversation i can do, she makes a good sense. greta: got it. eric in lake charles, republican there, would like to support nikki haley. when he gets to vote.earlier the with drake university's polical science professor dennis goldberg about the history of iowa's first in the nation caucuses. here is some of that conversation.
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dennis gold for is drake university's political science professor. what is the significance of the iowa caucus? >> caucus -- the iowa caucuses are not about delegates, they are able to test out the candidacy, and test out a> purely historical accident. it is not the case that a democratic and republican officials got together 50 years ago and said in w order to the states go for the nomination process and gee, iowa meets the criteria best. iowa's caucuses are about state
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party building and state organization events. it's the four tiered process starting with the precinct caucuses leading to counting conventions -- to county conventions and congressional district conventions and leading finally to the state conventions typically in june. so, if you back time from those, you see you got to startucuses e mcgovern in 1972 and jimmy carter famously in 1976 decided there might be a way to get ourselves known by starting so early. that's, of course, what they did. thing to remember, even if it hurts the feelings of iowa ns is that iowa's not first important. it's important because it is first. in any nomination process, rbwhveimportance simply because of being first. greta: how do caucuses work versus primaries? >> the primary, in iowa, r a ge,
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have a 13 or 14 hour window where you can go at a time at your convenience and show up at voting bootha and leave. caucuses a very different. they are always set for 7:00 on a monday night in an iowaand bog that winter big time right now. and you have to hope that the babysitter shows up, you have to hope the car starts and hope you have not taken ill, and especially have to hope there is not a blizzard, which is what we have. people show up. again, caucus comes from the native american word, meeting a gathering or mting. and caucuses do two preexist the presidential elements. caucuses have been around since statehood, they are held in the two years durincaucuses do two . first of all, they enable party activists to talk about issue positions they want to see taken
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in the state party platform later in the summer. second, they select delegates for the county conventions. those other two principal things that caucuses do. you are not actually directly in any legal sense voting for a presidential nominee. this occurred really, the presidential element that piggybacked onto them because in 1972, long story short, essentially some democratic officials said to the caucus-goers, by the way, while you are here, whom do you prefer for our party's nominee? in historical terms, that's how the9g■o caucuses got underway. greta: how do the candidates get the caucus-goers to commit, to come out on what you are talking about is going to be very cold monday night? >> well, it's difficult .
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always say remember the real estate people tell us that the three most important factors in real estate arelocation, location and location . well, in electoral policy, the three most importaut, and turno. and the most important factor are the -- three most important factors our organization, organization and organization. so, in 2016, for example, then candidate trumpe in second. by all accounts he has a significantly better and well-te to get those supporters to participate. it is the same thing for all of the candidates. ron desantisesting he has more of an organization than we seem to be aware of. it's essentially getting y friends and neighbors to turnout and agreed to sit with you and maybe listen to some speakers supporting various candidates and make your choice, which recommendation. it is not technically a vote
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that counts towards national delegates in the summer of a presidential year. greta:=[ident, when he holds rallies, when he has held rallies in the hawkeye state, he has talked about, he's called them■( to commit to caucus rallies and they passed out cards. but they want folks to fill them out and promise that they are going to caucus for him. other candidates are doing this. are these binding? >> no. no. their way of connecting with you and making sure his joe smith or jane doe showing up or not? we have got to card. no, sure to get those people here. so, it's a communication and mobilization device. i don't believe there is anything legally binding aboutre private events of the political parties. they are not going to be official state run elections that runs formal primary elections and general elections.
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these are the private events of the two political parties, and while there is some loose regulation, they have reasonable flexibility to run these the way they wish. greta: how does a republican caucus differ than a democratic caucus? guest: first of all there is a meaningful republican caucus being held this year. the democrats are having a caucus and they're doing those two traditional things, talking about platform issues, and electing delegates to the county level conventions the next year -- the next up, but they will not express a presidential preference. they do it by mail to be open on the first week of march, super tuesday. democrats are the ones that have that -- move around the room and you line up publicly showing yourllegiance and what candidate. if you're group did not have 15%. it has to dissolve and go to somebody else's group. or go to undecided. i mean, we remember that with id
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second. he finished second to undecided or nonce. that was about 37%. carter had about 20% of the votes. he finished ahead of the human candidates, but he finished behind undecided. the republican method is more private. att your electoral support. in both parties, they often have the opportunity to listen to a speech by a supporter of a particular candidate and supposed to listen politthen ref paper to be one of their own or something handed o not an official ballot and simply write down the name. you stick it in a box or a hate or a collection the precinct, ar tremendous supervision and strict observation, these things are ld they -- are sent
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to part headquarters. greta: as you said, democrats are not holding their caucus this y they are not doing their normal traditional caucus because they have changed up their primary calendar. for republicans, m there out ofe state of iowa, would you say, this time around? guest: i think it was my old friend david -- memory serves me correctly, coined that phrase that there are three tickets out of iowa. in 1988, for example, the eventual th republican side was george w. bushe. george h w bush. he finished third. on the democratic side, michael to caucus finished -- michael dukakis finished third. it is hard to see how anyone who finishes forth manages to do well. remember that donald trump finished second. that is one of those three 2016. but in 2020 joe biden
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finished fourth but in new hampshiryeah, it is just a ruleb that we say three tickets out, but again, many candidates will bet the house or since it i we m on the iowa caucuses, and they may decide if they have not dropped out like mike pence or doug burgum and people like that, they may decide if they can't accomplish what they need to accomplish in iowa, which i will mention in a second, it is time to drop out, because the money will drop -- dry out. what they need to accomplish is this. in both parties, at both suggesl candidates have exactly the same opponents. that opponents name is expected. did you do better than expected, meet expectations or do worse than expected? so, if you were projected by polling to come inn first, thatg bites man story.
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but if you are pollings the mans dog story, that everybody will pick up. you want to meet or exceed expectations. i think this time around, because donald trump is been polling at high numbers around 50% plus here in iowa, i think at this point, they are more concerned about failing to meet those expectations than they are about staying ahead of desantis. if they were close to donald trump, that would be a major upset, huge story here. so, you can never tell in american politics, but at this point, he looks to be safelyl ahead. his bigger opponents is not haley or dissent is the expectations. greta: that was drake university's dennis goldford. ■eyou are looking at pictures of des moines, iowa, where a
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snowstorm has brought campaigning to a standstill. the candidates have had scramble today to adjust their plans. the media has had to do so as well, because the state has been walloped by not one but two snowstorms and now they have blizzard conditions. the wind is picking up, the temperatures are going to drop, and they are predicting the coldest caucus night in history with a wind chill of -25. tonight on c-span, our campaign 2024 coverage continues in this hour, w are getting your thoughts on the candidates and the race. we want to hear from you, especially voters in iowa as you prepare wito before the first in the nation contest. we're going to have coverage throughout the weekend as well. and on monday night, we of course, be doing what we have done in years past and we will
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bring you a caucus on c-span, unfiltered, uninterrupted and on c-span2, we're going to have some extra -- guests to give us real-time analysis and contest, all of the coverage begins at 7:30 p.m. eastern time on monday night. paul in cedar falls, iowa. good evening to you. will be you at a caucus on monday night? greta: paul, are you there, in cedar falls, iowa? paul, i'm going to put you on hold and hope we can get a connection there. stewart in nebraska, a republican. stewart. caller: yes, ma'am. i would like to thank you and c-span for your valuable service. i'm a registered republican who has voted in every election and
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primaries in nebraska since 1980. i do not believe -- i believe that joe biden won the election. i am not an election tonight. if the things that president trump has done but i am voting for him for the simple reason is immigration. to, i get the omaha world herald, i watch cable news, and according tothe repo't over million undocumented the country from an over 100 countries. and some of them are e our country. none of them are being vetted. and we do not know who they are. they been getting a lot ofchine. they are not vetting them
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everywhere. -- very well. theyive in a suburb of omaha, ad we don't have a lot of low income housing. and i think what's going to happen is when the people, and i -- i have some sympathy for the if i lived in the conditions of they were, i would come up here, but who will pay for the education of the kids? o' bills? who's going to give them houses? greta: stewart, understood, immigration a big issue for you er president. let's go back to paul, are you there? caller: can you hear me? greta:wv do you plan to caucus monday night? caller: i do. i have caucused everything time since 1980. i ve voted single, excuse me, every single
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presidential election since 1976. and i will be there on monday night. greta: all right. i believe i have it right that you have your area in recent days, you ve haley, ron desantis, and vivek ramaswamy all in that area. have you been not to hear those candidates? caller: i have not, but interestingly enough, this has been an interesting cycle. i have read perry johnson's book, red tim scott spoke -- read tim scott's book. i was a tim scott supporter early in. i sim think that donald trump is a bully. i think that he is doing a disservice to the country. and i kinda wish he would go away. greta: how will you vote on monday night? caller: i am thinking that i'm gog greta: tell us why. caller: i like some of the
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things that she says. i think it's time we new generation and new blood. quite honestly, i likethe unite. i think she is probably the answer to us going forward. and interestingly enough, your previous caller talking about immigration. it's not often that i agree with nancyn pelosi and yet, she said that this is an election cycle that is all about liberty. i totally agree with her on that just are going to go at it from a different side. i think immigration is probably the thing that could destroy our liberty.paul in cedar falls. paul saying he is going to vote for nikki haley on monday night. she did have to cancel her events today but she switched to
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tele town halls. she went to webster county, which political analyst says -- say she needs to do well on monday nign a little bit of whe told voters who logged on for her tele-town hall. >> i'm curious, what are your plans -- to address the overwhelming student loan debt in the united thank you fori'mn fort dodge. i wish i was talking to you in person. the student loan situation, it really is, if you think about it, it is amazing to me that what biden wants to do is go just sweep away all of the student loans. and require people who didn't necessary go to college to pay for it. time paying off student loans. we did it because it was the responsible thing to do. but let's go back and see what
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is the responsible thing for government to do in this situation? when we buy a home we sign our life away in paperwork. when we buy a car, we are in there for a half hour signing papers. right now if a student gets alone,- aoan that money does not go directly to the school. it goes to the student. the student can spend it way they want. you can have an 18-year-old, they can go to the movies and buy pizza and buy books and do whatever they want with it. before any student gets a loan, they should have to sit through at least of someone explaining to them what theyre' getting ready to do. how much the student loan will be. whatwhat it does if they do noty it and what that means.
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what that does to their credit. how long they have to pay for it. give them the information to make a good decision. because when they get that information, they wl know one, it is a responsibility they have to pay for. two, they will know that this affects their credit. and three, it lets themannot juh government isa going to pay this off for yout. we owe it to them to educate them on what this means. not only that, this is why in south carolina and why across the country we need to have financial literacy classes in our high schools. kids need to know how to buy a car, they need to know what it means to buy a house, they need to know what credit is. rates can fluctuate. they need to know all of this information. i think we owe it to our kids not just to go to the basics and do math, science, reading history, those -- give them
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financial literacy so/e be they even finish high school, they know how to balance a bank account. they know how to prioritize their money. they know their families. those things are hugely important. and we are going to make sure we do that. you will find i over educate. i over communicate. i do not want government telling you what to do or how to lift. -- how to live. but i want to make sure that everybody has all the information they need to make a good decision. i o i wanted my citizens to know everything i knew. i over communicated. at the u.n. i wanted everybody to know what our friends and foes were doing around the world. i am going to do the same thing here. as a mom, i think we owe it to these kids to empower them to be strong with information so they can make good decisions the rest
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of their lives. greta: republican presidential candidate nikki haley in a tele- town hall after she had to cancel her event due to very stormy weather in iowa. now making plans to get their supporters out for caucus night. this is from politico. the trump campaign is complement and is live events to reachaudie begun signing up drivers with four wheel drive cars to shuttle pushing for neighbor to neighbor contacts and hoping that -- it will convince people to bear the -20 wind chill on monday night. joshua in oregon, a democratic ? caller: i would like to see, i know that, i come fromi am 39 y.
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we have changed as a nation. we are a very young nation. i mean, china has athan our nat. and what i would like to see -- a man and a woman, and together they will embody the presidency. a democrat and republican. because times are changing. and the future of our economy right now and how everything is, we need to focus on ourselves. america is very young. the infrastr to start focusing n going into space. greta: who's your candidate of those running? caller: right now it is trump. president donald trump. i don't know yet, because it is still early in the race, but i would also like to see a woman for, in the, the presidential
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seat as well. greta: ok. i'm going to move on to steve and spring, texas, a republican. caller: yes, hi. ali know i am not in a caucus state. however, i want to give a birds eye view because i cannot speak too much about the caucuses. in al, this country of ours is undergoing what is called a controlled rage. and the rage is what the institutions have violated, it is the border. it's immigration aveforeign, ec. people are hurting. people are hurting. that's why you see trump taking 20% of the hispanic vote or more 's got street credit. the bottom line is i hear a lot of your other colors -- there's
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a lot o emotional problems, i don't like the way he acts. well, you are hiring him to be president. if you honestly consider what he has done in his previous administration after he was attacked for all those years and the unbelievable things w do, t looking at your country first and get over your emotional angst over you don't like the way he projects himself or what have you. host: we will lead the conversation there for now. our coverage of campaign 2024 continues. tune in to c-span or go to coverage and you don't need to be near a television to get the latest on span's campaign 2024 coverage continues with the
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