only a few years younger than biden would -- biden. the reason people are more concerned about biden's age rather than trump's age is the perceived mental acuity issue. but, now, clearly this is and there are democratic voters who really do think about this purely in age terms, for generational reasons. israel and the hamas war right now. people of biden's generation, people who are in their 20's and 30's do not hold those views. so, there is a pure age factor, and then there is the perception of whether biden is physically and mentally up to the task of being president. people do have some of those concerns about trump, but to a

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with the center for american progress action fund. he serves as their president. guest: good to be here. host: a little bit about the fund. tell people what it is. guest: it is a center-left advocacy work station. our mission is simple, which is to improve the lives of all americans. we celebrated our 20th anniversary this year, and a lot of huge successes we are proud of, in -- including extending access to health care for all americans. plato huge role in the passage of the american character and defense of it. we work on a suite of issues from national security, education, democracy reforms, and proud of what we have done, and obviously a lot more work to do in this country still. host: when it comes to this time of year politically, up to a presidential ninating contest, what was the action fund involved with? guest: we do a range of things.

÷the communications infrastructure has changed a lot in the last 20 years. we invest a lot in messaging research, trying to understand■> where voters are at, how to talk to voters, a kind of messages and issues resonate with them. we have a huge digital communications on what is called the organic side. not just paying to put content in front of voters, but actually create content that gets shared organically and working with a lot of our partners in the progressive space to do that. we invest in storytelling, of finding americans' whose lives have been improved by progressive policies and have something to lose by, often, conservative or republican policies. also the core of our operation involves a lot of policy thinkers, so we can do a lot of really powerful analysis on the impacts of policies, both for the good and bad. host: on the idea of messaging

and storytelling, what was the messaging and storytelling out of iowa yesterday? guest: i think it is pretty clear. it is the one that has been playing out for several years, and they think really hard to deny, which is maga has taken over the republican party. i think it is it -- it is as simple as that. have this faction donald trump has led, much bigger than donald trump now. not only at the elected leader level, but tt base of voters has grown. and it is this extreme faction that now actually runs the republican party. largest take away from last night is how much that is sort of where the base of the party is, and caucuses are really the base of the base, right? you are asking people to come out at a specific time and it is much more of a commit than voting often is. i think that is sort of the largest take away here. that is something we have known for a while. there was this sense that after

january 6, after republicans sort of got rejected in the midterms in 2022, that the party my chart a different course. last night was a reminder they haven't. this is just who they are. host: was it the number that donald trump won by yesterday? guest: it is a few things. the horse race side of this, which is on the one hand donald trump was the incumbent. he has been president. ■yhe won in 2020 unopposed, so from the perspective of an incumbent it was a pretty poor ow to only get half the vote. from the perspective of an open primary race, which it -- which is how most of the media has treated it, it is an impressive victory. but this is not a guy who was unknown six months ago.

he was president for four years, and continue to be in the political conversation. that is one element. all with a grain of salt, but some of the telltale signs of maga work revealed there, which is had two thirds of the people who caucused yesterday do not believe joe biden won in 2020. that is a very extreme view in america, to continue to believe that joe biden did not win legitimately in 2020. you have two thirds that think that, even if donald trump were convicted of a crime. so, a court of law has decided that he has conducted crimes. two thirds say he would still be fit for president. and then you have 60%, i think, support a n on abortion. stripping away a fundamental right women have enjoyed for 50 years. also the revealing of where the

base of the republican party is today. host: what does that mean for president biden as he goes on with his reelection campaign? guest: i■í think a lot of where they started to draw the contrast much more aggressively at the start of this year, >> we will leave this here to keep our commitment to live coverage of congress. we take you live now to the floor the u.s. house, here on c-span. ■z the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the chair lays before the house a communication from the speaker. the clerk: the speaker's rooms, washington, d.c. january 16, 2024. i