good morning it is friday january night 2024. yesterday, congress agreed on a

bill funding the deadline through march and lets the battle for funding for another six weeks. there is now 34 trillion in national debt. we want to know who you trust to real and that debt. for democrats (202) 748-8000, for republicans (202) 748-8001 for independents (202) 748-8002 your text at (202) 748-8003 or on facebook facebook.com/cspan. the nation's national debt is 34

trillion and counting. we are asking you this morning how and which party you trust to lower the national debt. here's the headline from washington, congress passes a continuing resolution. this is on the senate floor, chuck schumer before the final vote on that legislation. [video clip] >> we have good news there will not be a shutdown on friday because both sides worked together the government will stay open, service will not be disrupted and we avoid an unneeded disaster. into the evening to work this agreement so i think everyone for their good work.

we stayed up negotiating amendments and timing. thanks to both sides working together, the senate is passing this cr with enough time for the house to take it up today and send it to the president's desk well before the deadline avoiding a shutdown. this is good news for so many who would have felt the sting of a government shutdown. i think my colleagues for their good work. it is precisely what americans want to see. both sides working together and governing responsibly. no chaos, no spectacle, no shutdown. host: that was chuck schumer yesterday with the final vote 77-18. in the house it was 314-108.

more democrats than republicans voted to support that extension. one of the members who voted against his chip roy, the congressman from texas. [video clip] >> i spent a good time going around the country iowa, as new hampshire, spoke to thousands of americans and not one of them said please add more money to the dead. bt. keep spending money we don't have that that is precisely what we are doing. kicking the can down the road. it is what we do best in this chamber. it is why the american people are so frustrated with the swamp.

we are sitting here doing the same thing again. it is groundhog day all the time, every day. spending money we don't have. host: one of many members who talked about the national debt. we are asking you which party do you trust to lower the national debt? 34 trillion and counting. these are the phone numbers for democrats, republicans and independents. we start on the republican line, good morning to you roy. caller: i don't trust the

republicans with the dead. even though i'm on the line for republicans. host: usa today with the chart showing this president has increased the national debt by 2 trillion at point but former president donald trump contributing 8.2 trillion. barack obama 8.3 trillion it was george w. bush with 6 trillion. this is william out of ohio on the independent line. caller: good morning. the democrats do a lot better on

the national debt than the republicans. donald trump spent 8 trillion in four years. i think the democrats have a much better chance than the idiots that were in their four years ago. caller: good morning, i thank you for allowing me to express i think it is the republicans. when the past administration was in office he hired his daughter and son-in-law to come in the white house and they are collecting money. he gave the rich a bunch of tax breaks.

■%biden has not hired any of his relatives to come in and help him. when trouble hires his daughter and son-in-law and relatives, they get quite a bit of money for spending a year or two in the white house. host: king of the trump administration more than 8 trillion added to the debt. in terms of covid relief and executive orders during covid that contributed 3.6 trillion, accident spending laws contributed 4.8 trillion. executive actions 10 billion

added over the four years of the trump administration. this is mark, a republican out of maryland. caller: good morning. i don't think either party has the guts to solve this. this is a huge problem that is going to take all americans to sacrifice and i don't think politicians have the will to do that. host: do you think america has the will? caller: i don't think they have the will therefore i don't think the politicians have the will to ask them to sacrifice. this problem threatens their peial security. this national debt is a very serious problem in american people really need to ask their

politicians to try and solve it. i am glad you brought up the point about donald trump. over 50% of its additions were due to covid. the biden administration has really lied because they have added to trillion to the debt every year that they have been in this their deficits have been running 2 trillion where trop was running between 600-$800. that is a huge difference. i wish they would start to solve this issue spending and raisings and social security is a major issue in anyone who has life

savings of over 2 million should not be receiving social security. host: the deficit accumulation over time is 34 trillion and counting. this is steve out of galveston, texas. caller: good morning to you how are you doing today? host: doing well. caller: both parties have betrayed the american people taking our tax dollars and sending them overseas and they have forgotten about the american people. both parties want to spend money like there is no tomorrow. they are both guilty and we

needed a new party completely because these guys are absolutely corrupt. the only thing they think of this other countries and not us. host: we have rate in pittsburgh the question this morning, which party do you trust to lower the debt? caller: i don't believe the national debt can be solved by cutting. nobody knows what one trillion really means they can't comprehend it or get their heads around it. if you lend me a trillion in my page you back one billion a day how long would it take to pay you back? host: a thousand days. caller: three years to pay back

a trillion dollars. how can we expect the government to give us stop far? the scope is too big and people don't understand it. it's just a number to put on paper to scare everybody. host: if we can't cut ourselves out of this do we bring in more revenue? caller: the sco is too big it doesn't mean anything is just a paper money. -- paper number. like i said, it's a number they put out there to scare people. i have heard about the national

debt and how it will hurt our grandchildren and great-grandchildren i never got a bill from the government saying you need to pay back your national debt. it's just a talking point. it's just like the border and everything else. it's just a talking point and it doesn't mean what people think it means. host: that's heart is breaking down a lot of information what information they try to break down that number is each citizen share of the dead. if you broke it down by each citizen it would be 101,000 per citizen if it was just tax papers it would be 154,000 from

every taxpayer to break down the debt. federal spending is 6.3 trillion . the biggest budget item medicare and medicaid coming in at 1.7 trillion. we spent 850 billion on defense. there are more numbers we can go through but those are just some of them. we ask you this morning which party do you trust to lower the national debt? caller: good morning. neither party is going to deal with it. i am 80 years old and that's all i hear we have to pay off the

dead. ■ylike the gentleman said a coue of calls before me. they don't really care. i have called my congresspeople and senators and they don't even talk to me. host: do you think the american public cares about that number? caller: they talk to us like we're stupid. it's just another payoff. that's all i have to say. host: we have charles next. caller: thank you for taking

my call. i don't see it going away anytime sure. we need to cut out these rich man tax breaks. are you still with me? get rid of these wealthy tax breaks. all this money that trump and biden were handing out. i would like to see the senators that took this money. host: when you say take the money, what do you mean? caller: they got those big loans. host: you're talking about covid

relief funds? caller: a lot of people got that they were already millionaires. everybody has paid into social security because that's not an entitlement program because people worked all their life to pay this sin. that is going to be the biggest suffering and women's right that is going suffering. host: this is from the hill

newspaper from earlier this week members, senator manchin, met romney, pushingor a new debt commission to look into this problem of the national debt. they bring some of the same concerns about whether or the dead would involve bigse to social security and medicare. e who claimt as a trojan horse for medicare by engaging in fear mongering. social security will become insolvent s th 10 years which would mean a cut in

benefits by. they are paving the road to bankruptcy of medicare. we need to preserve these essential programs. a new budget debt commission has been proposed on capitol hill and this was a proposal that came out this week with republican senators in the budget committee which would consist of 15 six from each party and outside members. consideration to move quickly and maintain a 60 vote threshold ahead of its final passage.

the budget committee chairman talked about the creation of this committee. [video clip] >> i am so proud to stand with the leaders here today. very proud of the constructive dialogue we have established in the committee. that we have been able to do something as a start to start the process of looking under the hood of this budget act and we find every way possible to create the sense of urgency in this chamber in congress. it's a big part of this fiscal commission. creating an urgency on the part of the american people.

people need to understand the magnitude of this problem and how catastrophic it could be if we don't intervene and everyone should wake up to that reality. that's a big part of this commission. with public sentiment you can do anything and without it you can do nothing. there is not enough pressure among the political spectrum, every member of congress and every candidate ought to be asked, what is your plan? host: the house budget committee advancing that program to form a new commission with democrats and republicans.

they would look into budget issues with plans to fix debt in this country. which party do you trust to lower the national debt? the phone lines are among republicans, democrats and independent for this first hour. we have ralph in alabama, a republican. caller: good morning. i don't see either party reducing the debt. we have no senators that even care. just like chip roy said, they are just going to kick the can down the road. these people who have been elected are getting rich.

all senators get rich once they reach the senate. host: on the commission to lower the debt, the op-ed in the hills said senator met romney, joe manchin, the national debt is the greatest threat to our country and it is time for congress to act. caller: i also see that you put republican in ont of met romney. is senator manchin really a democrat? nobody cares. they are sent. they don't feel the pain that

the american people are feeling. without accountability, they never will. host: this is gregory from west palm beach florida. caller: good morning john, c-span and america. i don't believe either party will try to solve the debt. it was increasing in the 80's and 90's. when everybody started using credit cards. i grew up during the jim crow era. i think one of the main reason that a certain political group mentions the debt. we started

giving women and african-americans social security. now they want to cut out social security because the only reason it has increased is because other people other than anglo-saxon white males. host: here's a look at the national debt from the treasury.gov. you can see the job at 2003 and in the past 20 years we are up to 34 trillion in debt. the treasury backs up that figure with quotes about the

piece where they talk about understanding the national debt. there is a picture of benjamin franklin with a quote saying i would rather go to bed without dinner then rise and debt. borrowing cannot be doubted so in order to borrow on good terms it's essential that the credit should be well established. i'm sorry, that's alexander hamilton, benjamin franklin and alexander hamilton. this is debbie, from pennsylvania. caller: the way to reduce the debt is to stop spending money overseas. the wealthy don't pay their fair share. my husband and i make 40,000 a

year and we pay more taxes than the wealthy do. why don't they cut their own page? y? his side we don't spend money on our own people. we have housing problems so why is the government not spending more on that? there are people living on the street. they have to go to places to keep warm because there's nowhere to live. something has to change. host: on foreign aid spending that's one of the strivers, it accounts for about 70 billion a year. that number quoted in u.s. world news report.

but were talking about 34 trillion in more than 6 trillion spent every year, 70 billion is not huge. caller: that builds up over 70 years. over 20, 30 years. it is not just a yearly thing. i guess we just don't have the right representation in washington. that's all i have to say. host: this is lloyd in pennsylvania, a republican. caller: don't worry about it. we don't have a country anymore.

if the media is allowed to light of the country, i don't trust the media as far as i can throw them and i have a bad back. hr 57:36 needs to be reversed. the news needs to start telling the truth and people who are watching cable news network, by a computer and look up real news. i think i'm going to be dropping my cable. the amount of the divisiveness is causing her people. when i go on the internet. host: where on the internet? caller: wolves and finance. i know people who work for the district attorneys office in the

way they are prosecuting donald trump is unbelievable. he only wants to do well for this country and i pray for him every day as i pray for the united states. both republican and democrat. donald trump used to be a democrat but became a republican and then everyone who hated him. i saw a video from him in 1980 in his message is not changed. the american people are angry, the debt doesn't matter anymore. if you want to spend money, spend moneyn the american people instead of dropping bombs and israel or saudi arabia.

who cares about ukraine? nobody cares about this. take care of the american people first. host: this is lawrence via facebook answeri this question, he says neither party. it is time to think about term limits and move out the people who are not doing the people's work. we have steve next, a republican. caller: you had an excellent call the last call. the united states is going down slowly but surely.

i thank god i was born in 1952. it was the best time to be born. this is the third time i have suggested on your program that you bring in a democrat and explained to the american public what is plan b when we become bankrupt? when no one will buy our treasury bonds, what is plan b? i truly believe that they are cutlass and you will not be able to get someone from the democratic party or the republican party for that matter to explain to us what is plan b?

host: the number from 1960 of the united states dead as a percentage of gdp was 53% back in 1960. by 1980 it was 30 4%, 2000 close to 60% and today, the debt to gdp is 122%. this is monty out of phoenix, and independent. are you with us? caller: i'm here, can you hear me? this whole thing about the national debt. as far as paying down the debt,

that cannot happen for a while. deficit spending needs to be under control before you can even do anything about the national debt because you can't have deficit spending and not increase the national debt. as far as people talk about this country being in decline, you hear that from a lot of politicians and that is wrong. we are not in decline. there are things that need to be done but cutting taxes is not the way to deal with deficit spending.

that has to be dealt with first. you can't get to the debt and pay it down before you get rid of spending. host: what is surprise you that we are a hundred years away from when the president held down deficit spending enough where debt did not increase? it was calvin coolidge over the course of his presidency the debt went down by 5.4 billion. the only other president to do that was warren harding. now presidents are decreasing

debt by trillions. the first one to see one over one trillion was ronald reagan with debt increasing by 2 trillion over the course of his eight years and george h w bush 1.5 trillion, president clinton one point eight over his eight years. a .3 under barack obama and donald trump eight trillion over four years. caller: i get your point but this will be the last thing i have to say about it. as far as debt and deficit spending, i'm getting my point

-- getting to the point of understanding it and the voting public really doesn't understand it. when you talk about all of those statistics, what was happening with taxes and tax because when all of that was taking place? that's a correlation i would like to see. every time there has been tax codes we wound up with more deficit spending. i don't see how you can reduce your income even if the spending levels will remain the same. there are a whole lot of things that have to be looked at.

there was a guy named beagley, and trump talks about cutting taxes but who benefited from that taxk/ cut? corporations are buying rental properties. my social security goes up by 2%? give me a break. host: this is gina on the line for democrats. caller: every person wants their representative to say i would like some help and i want you to bring home the bacon. everyone tries to bring home the bacon and we end up with problem.

s. the republican party says we need to balance our budget like the states do. that can't happen because the state is always asking the federal government for money. when you were explaining about how much taxes we take in versus how much we spend, when they cut 2 trillion from the tax roll can you imagine more taxes we would have brought in and that would've brought the deficit down? everybody is to blame for this problem. i hope and pray that people don't do anything about our social security because it is not an entitlement. it is earned income. thank you. host: federal tax revenue 4.6

trillion and that includes income tax, payroll tax, excise tax, the federal spending 6.3 trillion. that is creating a deficit of 1.7 5 trillion. we are asking you which party do you trust to lower the national debt? caller: if we are in such a national debt why is the government growing at 47,000 employees last year? they hired 50,000 government

workers last month. what about congressional budgets? they only get paid 176,000 but what about the budgets to operate? every congressperson runs their own office. why don't they cut that budget? why does mr. koontz get to go to davo's? s? they pay for their own private security? why don't you wanted this? host: member spending comes out of the appropriation bill, one of the funding bills they gets past each year. the fiscal 2024 request, 5.3

billion for the legislative branch appropriations bill for the house, senate, all of the member salaries you're talking about. that's 5 billion a year. that is its own separate budget item. caller: why isn't there a cut? they want us to cut. they are talking about social security. it's not an entitlement, we paid into it. we got a 3.8 increase but the federal government just rose 4.2. why do we pay so much for them to operate?

why don't they talk about that rather than grandstanding going to iowa on who's dying? ime? host: this was the appropriation bill passed out of the committee at 5.3 billion representing 263 million cut from last year's level. about 2.5% is a cut they propose for themselves and fiscal 2024. caller: are you sticking up for them? host: i'm just giving you the number here. caller: a cut is a cut.

on the congressional side you show me that they are trying to cut but what about on the government hiring side? they hired over 48,000 government jobs last month■2. the percentage of that from private hiring to government hiring, where do you stop hiring workers? host: there were 11 other appropriation bills. go ahead and finish your point. caller: they are still running deficit so they are not cutting enough. host: this is john out of

virginia. caller: good morning. i don't trust either party to cut anything. they both have spending problems. i heard this morning donald trump's tax cut added to i wouo explain to me how his tax c uts added to the debt because it doesn't make sense to me. host: next for michigan, a democrat. caller: i'm a jfk democrat not

like a democrat today. host: what is that mean? caller: i don't trust either party but the democrats today are 10 times worse than the republicans. in terms of economics and national debt. you keep showing that chart with a lot of numbers on their own and it confuses people. you need to focus on the important things and is not the national debt is the medicare cost. medicare is horrible and it does not work. i pay 600 a month and i don't get any benefit out of it. hospitals are allowed to charge 20 bucks for one band-aid.

100,000 per citizen but 264,000 per taxpayer. only the rich pay taxes, the poor don't pay any taxes. the next time some liar calls and tells you that the rich don't pay taxes is the opposite. only rich pay taxes, is a very progressive system. host: the biggest line item in the federal budget, medicare and medicaid combined account for 1.7 trillion in spending.

social security 1.4 trillion in defense spending comes out to 850 billion in the interest on that 34 trillion is 73billion this year. those of the four biggest line items in the budget. just about 10 is left in this verse segment. caller: thank you for taking my call. the national debt has been going up and up and what i would love to see is a politician who tells you these tax cuts will cause the debt to go down. they will never say what they were doing did it work and we have to go another direction.

back when our constitution was written, george mason said those who enjoy the fruits and privileges of our nation giveback at a rate much greater. after world war ii, when our debt was near this ratio the top tax rate was over 94%. i know the last caller said that wasn't true that only the rich pay. in a way, that was the way it was designed. i think the tax rate is not nearly what it was during calvin coolidge or after world war ii.

spending to save money doesn't cause the debt to go down and lowering taxes doesn't cause it to go down. the last president who asked people to sacrifice anything was jimmy carter and he was vilified. americans need to pull together to reduce the debt and get all the same page. i appreciate romney and manchin trying to do the right thing but is less a population gets behind them, i'm not sure it will happen. host: do you remember that debt commission from seven years ago and they talked about the national debt in 2010? caller: yeah, and why do we stop the earmarks and pay as you go?

there have been initiatives but you get another guy in there and it changes. there is one more comment i would like to make. the president is going to write some executive orders in the next president will write more executive orders may be resending the orders of the last president. congress is complaining that the president is not writing more executive orders which in my mind as congress is not doing their job. rather than executive orders every time we need congress to write the laws that need to be written. right now i think the border is being played as a political game. that's what needs to stop. it shouldn't be which party wins

the pulpit doing right for the american people. host: this proposal on a new debt commission, a national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform. former chief of staff a bill clinton who cochaired that commission along with wyoming republican senator alan simpson bowles. from 2011 this is senator bowles talking about debt and deficit 12 years ago. [video clip] >> i'm not going to use any notes today i'm just going to talk to you. i am really concerned. i think we face the most predictable economic crisis in history.

a lot of us sitting in this room did not see this last crisis as upon us but this one is really easy to see. the fiscal path we are on today is not sustainable. this debt that we are incurring on an annual basis are like a cancer and they are truly going to destroy this country from within unless we have the common sense to do something about it. i was with senator bob carey about a year ago and he said look at the nations current income statement and i tell you what you will see. a hundred percent of the revenuy

spending and interest on the dead. bt. every dollar we spend on these two national security, homeland security, education, infrastructure is barber road and have said that is borrowed from foreign countries. that is a formula for failure. host: former chief of staff of bill clinton. cochairing that commission in 2010. mary is next on the line for democrats. caller: how are you? host: doing well. caller: i'm an old guy and as a

kid i would get five dollar bills with red seals on them. abraham lincoln needed money in the congress would not give it to them. he issued 14 million for the war. that law is still on the books. different types of currency than what we use today. so for 10 years you could add these extra bills into the economy to pay for whatever you want to pay for. and then they would gradually take them out. that would be worth looking into, you might be able to finance care for poor people or whatever you wanted to do with it. host: this is mandy out of

daytona beach, florida. caller: i have a couple of items i wanted to bring up. one, if the country is going bankrupt. you should look at your assets and liabilities. how much land as the government owned that they are not using? we could liquidate what we don't need. i don't know if anyone is looked at that. another item i wanted to bring up when donald trump put in the tax cut it was to bring business back so people would have jobs so we would be competitive with other countries and other nations. they were setting up plants everywhere but here.

the final point i wanted to make, i get tired of people hearing that the rich don't pay their fair share when 50% of the people pay no taxes at all. we should all pay our fair share. host: time for maybe one more call this morning's in mill valley, california. caller: just one quick point. i think you are geographical unfair to the west coast because we have to get up at 4:00 a.m.. the $34 trillion debt number is just the debt for dummies number.

the republicans established an accounting trick to hide the true debt and unfunded liabilities. we need to include that number with the 34 trillion, my final point. the pitiful reality is that every gear we say they disagree but every year they unite to pay welfare to billionaires who run our country. the oil billionaires, weapons billionaires and israeli billionaires. after congress pays them off, that is when the disagreement starts in the republicans say we are done.

the debt is too high and the democrats try to be nice and say, let's try to give a few crabs to the people. -- crumbs to the people. host: that was our last caller for this segment but stick around their spending more to talk about. today is the annual march for life taking place on the national lawn. we will speak with sarah mccammon who has covered the later, mortar phone calls. -- more of your phone calls. we will be going from two lawmakers who will be joining us. conner smith glenn ivey at republican matt rosendale --

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set to take place on the national mall in washington today. joining us to talk about the debate is sarah mccammon, npr correspondent and host of the politics podcast, joining us from new hampshire. good morning. guest: good morning. host: two years into the post -roe v. wade era, what is the message today at the march for life? guest: they said the theme is going to be with everywoman for every child and that is a reflection of where the movement is headed in terms of its messaging. this is something i have been reporting on for a while. in the years leading up to the overturn of roe v. wade, the goal of the antiabortion movement was to get there, to overturn roe v. wade and get enough conservative senators elected, get a conservative president to elect not justices to achieve that goal. that is something donald trump

promised. they achieve that adrian have to go after decades of work. now there has been it it it in the messaging as we have seen the impact of that decision. that allowed state antiabortion laws to go into effect all across the country and we see many cases of not just people being turned away for abortion, but patients with severe medical situations in states like texas and oklahoma and elsewhere being told they cannot get an abortion because of abortion laws. at this him time, i did reporting -- at the same time, i did reporting about how these antiabortion groups that work with pregnant women and women who had decided not to have abortions, they were getting an influx of calls from women seeking help in states like texas. the landscape has changed in terms of the reality on the ground and the politics around abortion. we are seeing a greater emphasis from the antiabortion movement

on talking about ways to support pregnant people and parents. how that happens is a political question. they're also pushing for more abortion restrictions. host: let me show viewers the physical landscape of capitol hill today. the mitral life that you took was on the national mall on the west front of the u.s. capitol. it is a snowy day here in washington. for folks who have been to the smart for life events in the past, usually well attended, what are organizers saying about the storm in washington and who is going to be addressing the folks? guest: i have heard several of these as today i am in new hampshire on the republican primary campaign trail, but these marches bring thousands of anti-bush demonstrators to the

national mall. sometimes that is a smaller crowd when it is called. this year's speakers, in line with that there, they are bringing someone who runs a crisis permitted center in vermont -- crisis pregnancy center in vermont. they usually do not provide conference if reproductive health care, they do not provide health control. other leaders like jim daly with focus on the family, that has been an inferential group in the antiabortion rights group. house speaker mike johnson is on the schedule to speak along with several others. these rallies typically bring in heavy hitters in the christian right and also members of congress as well as uses go buses -- uc school buses of catholic kids from schools in d.c. and beyond.

all over the country, but it tends to be from the northwest from the northeast -- from the northeast. this is a year after the roe v. wade decision which shows what a priority the antiabortion movement has been. host: c-span coverage of the march for life begins at noon eastern. viewers can watch here on c-span, c-span.org, and the free video app. you mention speaker mike johnson is going to be addressing the crowd, coming off of a week in which two abortion-related bills were considered in the house. i want to show viewers and minute and a half of the speaker johnson talking about those. [video clip] rep. johnson: you hurt my colleagues articulate some of that. we want to be get easier for working mothers and moms and dads to start raising a family.

that is why republicans are voting on two pieces of legislation. supporting pregnant and parenting women and families act and the pregnant students rights act. across the country, these pregnancy resource centers are doing heroic work. they are helping moms and dads as they deal with the realities of pregnancy and the challenges of raising children. across the country, state governments rely on these centers thanging emotional and material support. that is support that empowers children to bring -- parents to. bring children into the world. we want to make sure the centers can continue to serve families in every state and are not needlessly cut out of the funding process by the biden administration. you heard what is happening here with tenant funds. we want to make sure moms in college on opposite with the full stories of being a mama being a student. if an expect a mom is pursuing her degree, we want to make sure she knows all the resources are available to her so she can

continue her studies and finish hernw degree while caring for hr child. those resources are out there. house republicans will show the emergent people we are not only a voice for the most formable, we also want to take action to protect them and their families. host: that was speaker johnson on wednesday. sarah mccammon, what happened with that legislation by the end of this week and what is the state in descendant? guest: these pieces of legislation are part of this larger effort i was talking about earlier to reshape the messaging around the antiabortion movement, to focus less publicly on abortion restrictions and more on the idea while groups oppose abortion rights, they want to help mothers and families struggling with unintended or unwanted pregnancies. the objection to this legislation and this concept is

usually these centers these legislations would find doc provided full spectrum of reproductive health care. they counsel women against abortion. they often provide limited support services, caps off and referrals to medicaid. a few of them have medical staff on hand but most do not. there has been a lot of criticism that these bills would seek to find -- of what these bills would seek to fund. this is a part of a larger debate, the movement has been trying to move public funding toward these centers that align with their ideological goals, something the trump administration try to do by reforming the title x family planning program. it has always received pushback from democrats host: speaking of democrats and the white house, also a focus on abortion and work in excess this week.

coming up on the 51st anniversary of roe v. wade. as we noted, a little more than two years since it was overturned. monday, vice president kamala harris highlighting abortion access while giving a speech in south carolina. this is about 40 seconds. [video clip] v.p. harris: today across our nation extremists propose and pass laws to attack a woman's freedom to make decisions about her own body. laws that would even make no exception for rape and incest. let us all agree, one does not have to abandon their faith and deeply held beliefs to agree to government should not be telling her what to do with her body.

host: that was the vice president on monday. sarah mccammon on this push by the white house, by the biden campaign ahead of the 2024 election? guest: this is a big focus for the administration. on tuesday, the anniversary for the roe v. wade decision which was overturned but is still a significant landmark anniversary for the abortion rights movement , president biden announced he and first lady jill biden and kamala harris will be at a luncheon focused on abortion rights. this is leading up to the remainder of the 2024 campaign this year. they will be working closely with the democratic party on this and they will kick it off with a rally in northern virginia. the reason is that we saw in the last two elections, the 2023

election and the 2022 midterms, every time abortion was on the ballot, voters voted to support abortion rights. this is true in red states that had abortion related ballot measures. it is harder to disentanglelegig as big as the presidential race where voters are thinking about many concerns, including the economy and immigration. when the question is isolated, we have seen in response to the decision what looks like a real backlash. exit polls indicated this was a very motivating issue for democratic voters and particularly for key constituencies including women and younger voters. democrats are well aware of that and they plan to keep pushing the issue into 2024. as they did last year. democrats spend tens of men's of dollars on abortion related ads,

more than four times what republicans place on that issue. they have a political advantage around the issue at this point. the landscape has changed with the overturning of roe v. wade. it is no longer a hypothetical question, we see in the states the impact of this. host: sarah mccammon has covered theis country a long time and spending her time this weekend in new hampshire covering the primary. phone lines if you want to call in, democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. she is with us for the next 15 or 20 minutes this morning. in vermont, the line for democrats, this is timothy. caller: good morning. just speaking in general terms,

if in -- if i may, especially on the right, they love the fetus but haiti child -- but hate the child. you have this dichotomy going on . the pro-life movement and you juxtapose it to the fact that republicans want to shut down snap benefits and all the things that would help the child and demographically it goes down to lower income people and minorities. it is a hypocrisy of epic proportions. host: sarah mccammon on how

timothy describes that debate. are you hearing that from members as well? guest: i hear that from democrats and abortion-rights supporters. it has been a criticism of the antiabortion movement and something they are trying to respond to with messaging around providing support for families. as he alluded to, there is a political question. philosophically, conservatives or republicans tend to be less supportive of public support for health care programs and childcare and the initiatives often ported to as ways to do that, to help low income parents and parents who might not feel fully prepareto raise a child. there is some difference of opinion within the antiabortion movement of how to navigate this. some groups since the overturning of roe v. wade have called for the entire movement to step up and advocate more

support for these programs. we have seen small steps in some states where abortion rights have extended the medicaid coverage time period. other things like this proposal that passed the house and probably doesn't have much of a future and a descendant, -- in the senate, to: direct public funds to pregnancy crisis centers, the way to do it is a big question. i think many abortion rights supporters would say those funds should go to organizations that provide a full spectrum of care, including abortion when is desired or needed. that is a perception the tara bush and movement is trying to -- that is the perception the antiabortion movement is trying to push back against. host: this is david for republicans, good morning. caller: good morning. i coincidentally cut -- caught

kamala harris's speech. i thought i would listen to it. it was the most halting, stum the cadence, the adjectives, she needs a much better speechwriter. especially abortion. the substance of the whole issue for me, i will give you my opinion, i am right on the fence. i am not one side or the other. i am sure there are exceptions. i know is a touchy subject -- it is a touchy subject. kamala harris needs a good speechwriter. if she wrote that herself, that is not an impressive way to communicate to the american

public. host: sarah mccammon on the roles the white house has as the president as a surrogate for this issue. guest: white house has given her -- on this issue. you see her speaking about it after the aftermath of the dobbs decision and she has met with abortion-rights groups to talk about strategy. those meetings are closed to the press. i cannot say a lot about that. this has been part of her portfolio from the beginning. it is an issue that is on people's minds. she is the first female vice president. i am sure there is a reason -- it is understandable this is an issue that primary affects women. it is something she has been tasked with.

one of the caller's other comments on the complexity of the issue, this is something i hear from republican voters on the campaign trail. now that roe v. wade has been overturned, i don't hear people talk as much about abortion -- i don't hear as much talk about abortion as a driving issue for republicans. in iowa and new hampshire anecdotally, i hr that roe was overturned and i hear focusing on the other issues, immigration and the economy for sure. this illustrates that this was for a long, galvanizing issue for republicans. now that the reality on the ground is different, it gives democrats the advantage. host: you mentioned iowa, this is missy in bloomfield.

independent. good morning. caller: thank you for ting my call. i think you are wrong on that. most american people do not want the government in our business. you are asking for the federal government to get involved in an individual's right and tell them what they cannick, do. what we want is the right to be able to distinguish and vote, us as the american people, vote on whether we want to be right for any abortion or not and limit when that abortion should be able to be held. i am sorry, but when you are up to having that baby had everything and all of a sudden you decide you don't want that baby so you want any abortion, i don't think so. that baby feels, that baby moves. with it coming back to the states, it gives the individuals a chance to vote and choose for

themselves of what we want rather than our government telling us what we are going to have or not have. host: on that point, you have covered his individual -- of these individual state referendums on abortion access. what is the next flashpoint for this when we look at 2024? is this on the ballot in more states? guest: despite what the caller said, in seven states where abortion has been on the ballot in in the past two years, in every case voters have cited with the proportions -- pro abortion-rights. the language of each is different and i want to get into the weeds, but in some cases there were efforts to restrict abortions that were pushed back. in ohio, there was a proposal to protect abortion-rights.

i spent time in ohio reporting on that. in response to the reality of these abortion restrictions, ohio is a state where the amendment was approved by voters. ohio had any early abortion ban that restricted abortion after six weeks of pregnancy with no exceptions for rape or incest. ohio was a state that led to that tragic national story a couple of years ago about the 10-year-old girl who had to travel out of state for any abortion after she was a rape victim -- an abortion after she was a rape victim. even a state that is arguably pretty red, voters said they wanted to protect access to abortion. the specifics of that amendment allowed for some wiggle room, not so much later on. that is also in line with public opinion. they kids are pulling suggest

most americans support some access to abortion, particularly earlier in pregnancy, particularly in situations where there is a medical crisis. there is less support later in pregnancy. to the caller's point, she talks about people deciding last minute not to give birth. that is extremely rare. just over 1% of abortions happen after 21 weeks. pregnancy is 40 weeks, sometimes longer. the reality is later abortions are rare because of serious medical complications. about this coming year, there are efforts in several states to put abortion related measures on the ballot. those are usually coming from abortion-rights groups who want to protect abortion access in their state law. a couple of states to watch our arizona and florida, those are presidential battleground states

and with robust efforts underway. host: you are in new hampshire for this primary weekend. of the top three candidates left in the republican primary, who talks about abortion and roe v. wade the most on the campaign trail? guest: i would say it is something they have generally avoided. the politics of abortion at this point are a much more winning issue for democrats than republicans. the reality of the republican primary is all of the major candidates, those still in the race and those who were in the race until recently support the overturning of roe v. wade. they say that was a good decision. th unaware of how popular some of these state laws are and aware of the political risk. the disagreement we have seen among presidential candidates is really over how much to restrict

abortion in this environment. should there be a national ban or should be left to the states -- should it be left to the states? former vice president mike pence when he was in the race was going out his rebels to support national ban. something that is politically not likely anytime soon, even if the republicans took the white house. it became a political argument and mike pence call on his rebels to support a 15 week ban. nikki haley is a south carolina governor who has labeled herself conservative but is going after moderate and independent voters, she has been much more careful in her language around abortion. she said i am pro-life but i don't judge anyone for being pro-choice. it is not clear what that means in terms of policy.

if a six week ban came to her desk, she said she would have signed it as governor. she got some backlash on that. she has tried to steer clear of ban -- steer clear of the national ban. president trump has resized ron desantis for sending a six week ban in florida. he said there was a terrible mistake but former president trump has bragged about being responsible for the overturning of roe v. wade. he is trying to have it both ways, where that this issue does energize republicans still to some extent and that moderate voters -- it is not popular with margaret voters that you need -- not popular with moderate voters that you needed to win an election. host: you mention florida as a

state to watch this election cycle. this is frank out of fort lauderdale, republican line. caller: i would like to talk about the funding speaker johnson talked about earlier in your segment. for many years planned parenthood has been getting around $500 million annually for their services. that is the largest abortion provider in the u.s. and in the world. crisis pregnancy centers here in florida, under governor bush, he started to assist the pregnancy health centers with some funding. when a continued that -- governor desantis has continued that. is not fair for the federal

government and taxpayers to fund abortion through planned parenthood and not to help the pregnancy health centers. host: let me let you take that up on funding. guest: there is something called the hyde amendment which restricts federal funds from being spent on abortions in all directions. that is in place, democrats would like to remove it but it is still in place. planned parenthood does receive substantial funding. they say it is not used for abortion and cannot be used for abortion under federal law. this is something groups have objected to for some time. there are a lot of unmet needs. i went to texas after dobbs and i saw what antiabortion groups were doing to house women who had children and could not support them. however those needs are met, they exist and we will continue to see political debate around

those needs, particularly in an environment where abortion is restricted. host: if you want to watch live coverage of the march for life today on capitol hill, our coverage begins at noon eastern here on c-span, c-span.org, at least 3 -- and the free c-span now cap. we will let you get your day coverage -- let get started in new hampshire and new hampshire campaign coverage. thank you so much for your time today. guest: thank you. host: coming up for the remainder of our show, it is going to be open forum. you can start calling in now with any public policy or political issue he wants to talk about. in that time, we will be talking with a couple of members of congress, congressman glenn ivey and matt rosendale of montana will join us after the house

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host: now is time for open forum. now is your time to call in. phone lines, democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. ■@we will be taking your calls d we will be joined by zoom a couple of commerce members, that is matt rosendale of montana and glenn ivey. we will be talking to them about the continuing resolution passed in the house and the senate expanding the government funding deadline to early march. two deadlines set in march for congress to find the government. on that government shutdown, this is the lead story in today's wall street journal. congress clearing that legislation to extend funding

into march. it ensures federal workers will do more on the job but does nothing to alleviate political pressure. the measure passed a 77-18 following an approval of -- following a house approval. speaker mike johnson relied heavily on democrats to bring the resolution across the demo -- across the finish line with almost half of republicans declining to back the measure. we will be talking about that with the murders of congress -- the members of congress that will be joining us. first we will take your calls. michaela is out of ravenna. -- what is on your mind? caller:■h of course the democras are going to use abortion, the only thing they have going for them. nothing else is good on their

side. it is up to the states now. i don't understand why all of this is going on, all of this fighting about it. if you don't like what your state is doing, move somewhere else. as far as the limits, being able to do this is ridiculous. that is just wrong, terribly wrong. i believe there should be exceptions for incest and rape. being able to take a baby's life after they can feel pain -- from

the beginning it is a baby. i think they are just wrong. move somewhere where you can do it. it is allowed in certain states. don't make such a big deal out of this. you have a choice. you can go where it can be done. host: we were talking in the last segment about how there are many antiabortion advocates calling for a national ban. what are your thoughts on that? are you okay with how it has been since roe v. wade was overturned? caller: it should be up to the states, the people in the states. the majority of the people should be able to do what they want to do. the people should have the choice. they can move to that state if that is what they believe in. people who do not believe in it should be able to have it the way they believe.

i don't think it should be national. st: from missouri to massachusetts. this is david. good morning. caller: this was for veterans day but it relates to stuff we are talking about. i am listed in the marines out of high school, i was deployed to iraq in 2004 and a bunch of other places. after i got out i became active in the antiwar movement and a big part of my whole life and education has been learning about the example of another marine named smith the butler -- smithy butler. his career was defined by foreign territory by feeding the u.s. industry. he doing is wrong and became an antiwar activist. i would like to close by reading

from a book he wrote. "war is a racket, it always has been. it has been the most profitable and he was vicious. it is the only one where profit is in dollars and -- not in dollars in lives. it is at the expense of very many. i spent most of my time as a muscleman for wall street, i was a racketeer, a gangster." host: before you go, what changed for you from the time you enlisted out of high school to deciding to get involved in the antiwar movement? what happened to you during your time? caller: there is an unconscionable amount of not just human waste and wreckage, not just death and destruction and people being killed. if you could only see the material waste that happens on a daily basis. it makes me wonder how many

people out of this country are misinformed and how many don't care. host: do you think you are misinformed in high school? caller: i don't want to claim too much ignorance but i was a teenager. i signed my papers when i was 17. i would claim i could have done more reading before i joined. host: what did your parents think when you were joining? caller: my dad was happy, mom was not happy. i had to badger them into letting me sign even though i did not finish until i finished high school. host:our parents think today about your views on this issue? caller: mom and i are in alignment and dad and i don't talk. host: over this issue? caller: in general. host: lake before the call. this is gregory in new jersey. good morning. caller: hello. host: go ahead.

caller: i think the whole problem is the whole country is into greed. the politics is all about power. both of them are corrupt, the republicans and the democrats. big business runs this country. the people don't have no say so. donald trump is about keeping the white people brainwash that because of their whiteness, they have privilege. i agree with some of the things this girl wrote about white people feeling offended by trying to make reparations. i want to read her book because she made kind of sense.

it is a shame we have to vote for the lesser of two evils because both of them are corrupt. host: this is andrew in maryland , the line for democrats. caller: i wanted to bring up the fact that biden's administration has failed to address the conflict in israel in a substantive way. he could fix it within a day. however, he decides to play both sides and he could choose to cut israel off from the close to $10 billion we give them annually around there but decides not to. host: that is andrew out of

maryland. two members of congress joining us today, one is matt rosendale, republican of montana and member of the house freedom caucus. joining us a day after that vote for another continuing resolution. you were a no on that vote. why? guest: i believe using continuing resolutions and omnibus bills is number one a violation of statute. we deliver 12 probation bills by june 30 and send them over to the senate. number two, the transparent and responsible way to fund government is through those appropriation bills. it is a violation of statute, it need, and all this does isncy continue spending. actually it increases the spending levels. we are dealing with nancy pelosi

spending levels and joe biden's policies by extending this down the road for another couple of months. that is not what the people of montana sent me here to do. they don't want to see a continuation of status quo. host: what is your expectation for what happens between now and early march when the government funding hits? will the government be able to pass those bills and fully fund the government? guest: i am hopeful. the house of representatives has passed seven of the 12 appropriation bills. we also passed hr two which is the most comprehensive and conservative immigration borders secure -- border security legislation that i am told has ever been passed here in washington. my colleagues and i,

specifically andrew out of georgia, say why is it that we are not taking the seven appropriations bills the house of representatives has passed and combining that with hr to -- hr two which the country has instead overwhelmingly securing the border is the number one issue for a multitude of reasons , and sending that over to descendant. that -- to descendant -- to the senate. and then we could continue to work on the remaining five appropriation bills and get those to the senate. host: what is your view of speaker johnson today about 100 days into his speakership? caller: i say the same thing and that is -- guest: i continue to see the same thing and that is that speaker johnson knows the right thing to do. i have set down with him in meetings and attended the conference meetings.

speaker johnson knows the right unfortunately he takes counsel from those who undermine his confidence and his ability to deliver on the things he knows is right. ultimately, he has to take responsibility. he has a lot of staff giving him poor counsel poor counsel -- giving him poor counsel and he should fire all of them. host: how different is a speaker johnson from speaker mccarthy? guest:pe do which means he has a higher level of responsibility. speaker mccarthy was very transactional. he did not have core principles. everything was about how he could get up -- the latter one more rung. he would go into the next room and in order to accommodate what he was trying to achieve, make promises with that individual that would negate everything he

had done previously. we saw that play out as we had different things being agreed to in conference and being passed by the republican conference, whether that was the debt ceiling with the different appropriation bills. he would go and negotiate unilaterally with president biden and negate all of the work we had accomplished. host: should speaker johnson be right about his job -- be worried about his job? guest: i think there are those who would take every action necessary, but i am not in that camp yet. i am holding hope we can get these appropriation bills delivered and we can get something done to secure our border. we are very soon going to have to start addressing the appropriations for next year. they were supposed to be

delivered by june 30 so these things are all starting to collide with each other. he has got to reckon is that and start helping us move forward. host: if descendant -- if the senate comes up with a deal in the next week or two, what happens to that in the house? guest: i hope that legislation fails in the house. you are talking about a supplemental package. that is not anything that has gone through the committees, not anything that has gone to the appropriations process. all of that would be on top of the already inflated spending levels we are talking about. the american people, the people across the state of montana do not want to see funding to ukraine to protect their borders next -- mixed with funding for

our border, next with funding for israel. they are tired of this legislation coming together and being forced upon them. being forced to expect some bad things and additional spending just so you can get a morsel of the table. i will not support a supplemental that does that. host: despite the house are churning after the passage of this legislation, it is a busy day for you. we were talking about the march for life taking place on the national mall. will you head down there sometime today? guest: i just left. i appreciate you sticking with me, a pro-life organization. i believe every single life is precious once it has been conceived. my message continues to be we have got to pray for everyone.

we have to pray for the mothers and children that have been lost because of abortions, pray for folks funding abortions, pray for the doctors supporting abortions. we have to pray for everyone working to reduce those abortions because while i believe legislation has a lot of impact, we have to change the hearts and minds of people across this country so they embrace a culture of life and start opposing this culture of death and destruction which is led by the democrart commissione -- congressman matt rosendale representing the of montana in the house. back to our open forum, mark has been waiting in pennsylvania. what is on your mind? caller: i wanted to talk about the asylum system that is

broken. this is an article you read last week, the backlog is 3.5 years in court. that is so far back -- so far away from the truth. i did the research and i was shocked how bad it is. we have 650 immigration judges, the process about high 80's cases per year. i rounded it up to 100,000 to make it e every year they can only process 100,000 claims. that means for every million it is 10 years backlogged. the amount of people that we have let into this country, you are talking over 100 years backlogged. that is mindbending. belies that keep americans uninformed about this is criminal. host: what you think about the effort to impeach al hunter mayorkas -- a la hundred

mayorkas -- mayorkas. caller: they should have impeached him the moment they got in the house. i don't know what they're doing. it is crazy what these republicans are doing. do you know the cruelty behind that? if people are risking their lives, being raped, fertilized, dying, kids are being separated and yet they are never going to be given a silent. you know how many cases get adjudicated? 17,000 to 20,000 under president biden per year. all the people are here, they will never be able to be citizens because they're never going to get to court. every 300,000 that comes in, that is another three years. last month added another three

years. they need to shut this system down. it is broken. host: on the impeachment hearings against homeland security secretary mayorkas, i want to show viewers a little bit of that hearing starting with bennie thompson. [video clip] >> any impeachment would do nothing to prevent families from suffering similar tragedies, if only it were that simple. these problems are not new, they require serious policymaking, not any impeachment vote. it will do nothing but undermine our constitutional system. if my republican colleagues were serious about addressing these issues, they would be working on legislation, collaborating with our city counterparts and the white house -- our senate counterparts at the white house.

congress has a pending request president biden to find additional border patrol agent, additional law enforcement personnel, and increase fennel -- fentanyl detection technology . congress has refused to consider this request. instead of considering solutions to these problems, my colleagues on the other site of the aisle are chasing an illegitimate impeachment and using tragedy to score political points. this entire process has been conducted in bad faith with a predetermined outcome. >> i have to address the ranking member's suggestion that we would use these young women as political ponds to make a political -- political pawns to make a political statement. i am offended by that. his closing remarks could have been made at a political rally.

it is despicable to suggest that i would use the two of you as political stance. -- stunts. i am trying to show that every american is unsafe right now with these ridiculous border policies. what happened to you ladies and your daughters could happen to any american. the reason they happened is because the secretary is not following the laws passed by this body, both republicans and democrats. if he were a republican, i would be saying the exact same thing. it has nothing to do with politics for me. i spent 24 years prepares to give my life for this country. at times, i thought i might have. now what matters to me is the document i swore an oath t

defend and this secretary has spit on it by saying coequal branches of government don't matter to him. i am sorry, he has got to go. host: scenes from the homeland security committee yesterday. if you want to watch more, you can do so at c-span.org. taking your calls on the open forum the lines for democrats, republicans, and independents as usual. this is roy in the peach state. caller: we need to look at the impact of abortion. margaret sanger was enough to sympathizer and she wanted -- was a nazi sympathizer and she wanted to control the birth of black and brown babies. a muslim imam was celebrating the fact that the u.s. is dying because the birthrate is so low that we are not producing enough babies to keep america alive.

basically he was saying we're going to end up depending on the muslims to solve our problems. we have little immigration and people realize this -- illegal immigration and people don't realize this, but they are bringing in illegal immigrants to replace the deaths caused by abortions. america is not producing babies now so the illegal immigrants are running rampant. they want to bring in more workers. ■ problem will not be solved by man. this is not a man solvable problem. we have to return to our roots, return to god and ask for guidance from god. the democrats are using the bible against us. the republicans need to start using the bible for us. going to god, seeking god. what the democrats want is totally against everything we

learned in the bible. the republicans need to let people know that we are the party of life. we are the party of equality and they hate donald trump so much. the world economic forum is reading right now. , trump told before him he would put america first. we need to listen to that. the world economic forum is trying to control our country. we cannot allow that to happen. i just hope america will wake up to turn back to god and allow god to leave them in their decision-making -- lead them in their decision-making. host: democratic land, air. -- line, eric. good morning. caller: by the national debt, we need a lot more education on

what the national debt means. when the government spends money, the treasury creates that money in people's accounts. when we pay taxes, the government deletes that money from our accounts. the government does not have a big checking account and does not borrow money and write notes. when there is deficit spending, it creates more dollars in the economy which can be a danger to the economy and weaken the economy if the economy is not strong. the government bonds are a necessary part of the economy. it's a stable source of interest for american citizens. host: on the issue of interest, what are your thoughts on the $732 billion we'll pay on interest on the national debt?

where that interest is going, if you compare that to $34 trillion, that would be a pretty low interest rate. and i'm guessing that that interest is actually being paid into government bonds. if we were to eliminate government bonds, that would eliminate a very stable source of savings for a lot of people and a lot of entities, retirement funds, etc. host: eric in minneapolis. this is melissa in the hoosier state, indiana. independent. good morning. caller: good morning. i am calling about the abortion issue which i'm not saying it's the most important issue going on in our country right now, but it sucks. i know from personal experience that planned parenthood pushes abortion. it is not medical care.

back in the 1980's when i had an abortion they did not show me the ultrasound. i never knew that a baby's heartbeat you could hear it so early. 30 years down the line you're going to feel bad. really bad about it. i do believe in exsepbgss, of course -- exceptions, of course. rape, incest. a lady called in about a half-hour ago. i'm totally with her. there are always exceptions. abortion up until birth? that's insane. it's sick. that's all i have to say about it. host: melissa in indiana. this is tim, west virginia, republican, good morning. tim, are you with us?

mountaineer state? we'll go to the buckeye state, valerie, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. how are you? host: doing well. go ahead. caller: i'm calling about abortion. there are a lot of calls about it. just to get right down to it. it doesn't affect you. you don't have a say over someone else's body. i feel like that's been the issue. they are like, no, certain circumstances -- tell me, i want you to tell me on the internet, show me several reliable resources of reports of people did abortions up until birth please. i would love to see that proved. i have not heard of it. that's extremely rare. and it's ridiculous if that's a point. honestly, it's your body of the. i'm 34. i never wanted kids. if i were to have an abortion, i wouldn't -- i wouldn't regret it years down the road, but

nonetheless, it's my decision. it shouldn't affect another person. they shouldn't be thinking about t also a side note on everything else, i just wanted to say the moneys going into rich people's pockets. this isn't an immigration issue. this isn't a tax issues. this is money going into people's pockets. also we need to have an immediate cease-fire. free palestine, thank you. goodbye. host: valerie in ohio. on the issue of abortion. remind e. live today at noon eastern, c-span coverage of this year's march for life. you can watch here on c-span, kr-fp of c spanners org and free c-span now video app. open forum until 10 a.m. eastern. taking your phone calls on any public policy issue, political issue. arnold is waiting in the sooner state, independent, good morning. caller: good morning. thanks for c-span.

i have been listening for a long time. i have been listening to all these republicans, stefanik, all their cultural stuff, hating donald trump. nobody should hate anybody, first of all. we should love one another. and care about one another. this country is in debt up to its neck. not just because of abortions or education, or taxes. we are just in debt because we are so greedy. and we don't care about one another. all we care about is ourself. and our children are reflective of that. anyway, i mean i love the united states of america. it is one of the greatest countries. it's not the greatest. it never will be the greatest.

i think the countries in europe are the greatest because, you see, they have been through thousands of years of history. we have only been through maybe what, not even 300? that's my opinion for the day. speaking of all the educational stuff, what education did donald trump have? what is his education level? where did he graduate from? trump university? i don't know. he stole enough of our money. thanks. host: oklahoma, to jeff in coatesville, indiana, line for democrats, good morning. caller: hello, john. thank you for taking my call. i want to first of all -- i'm going to be a little bit, please don't cut me off. i'm not going to talk about abortion even though i want to. i want to talk about our first comment about what's ailing the united states and what our problem is. but before i even do that i want to thank c-span and all the

callers that called in. this is a great call this morning. i tried to call in earlier and i couldn't get on. hello? host: i'm listening. you couldn't get on earlier. what's your comment today? caller: i want to thank you guys. i used to -- i watched this show back when brian lamb did it and susan. it was great. this week i watched msnbc at it was earlier this week they said, boy, the president gave a great speech about democracy. and i thought, you know -- there is no opponent running against him in new hampshire. and he wouldn't let robert kennedy be an opponent. so robert kennedy had to form a new -- he had to deviate from being a democrat, which i'm a democrat. robert kennedy has a new party

called, we the people. and he's trying to get on the ballot. and all of your callers today are calling in about our problem. and they are very unhappy with both parties because that is the problem. the problem is we, the voters, we don't have to vote these people in. and we are going to have an alternative. we need to use that alternative. it's not a binary situation. the constitution doesn't relate to that. we need three parties. and we need to support a third party to keep the other two parties honest. i think all the representatives in washington want to be honest, but if they were honest, they wouldn't be representatives. so much power lies between the leaders in the senate and the majority leader and minority leaders in congress that alt other representatives, includinr representatives, including my representative, who is a good

man -- host: who is your representative, jeff? caller: jim baird. a good guy. he's a republican. i'm a democrat. and i ran for office twice. and i got beat twice. i didn't get beat because i was a bad candidate. i got beat because the people don't like the democratic national party. host: what years did you run? did you run for congress? caller: i ran in 2012 for county commissioner. and i was asked what party -- are you a democrat or republican? i said i'm an american. as a purdue grad, we go to purdue football games. we have that opening about being an american. we all say i am an american. that's what i am. i'm not a democrat and republican. i'm an american. but i ran as a democrat. and that was expensive. two years ago tom mcdermott was a candidate for senate, a great

candidate from merryville, great candidate. didn't get any support at all from the national democratic party. none. no help at all. host: jeff in indiana. scarlett out of alabama. independent. go ahead. caller: hi. i wanted to say something about what happened to me when i was a child. i wasn't born here in alabama. but i had two friends who are not white, they were female girls. their momma died. and -- so the father was taking care of them. the oldest girl, who was 13, she got pregnant. and they couldn't find out who the daddy was. well, her body was so small that she died. from there, from being pregnant. so after that, they didn't do any tests at that time because i

am old. so then all of a sudden it happens her sister, her younger sister, who was 11, she got pregnant. she killed herself because she thought that she was going to die a painful death like her sister did. people don't think about these things. i didn't know about abortion and things like that, but i did know that she was pregnant. it's just like if people are having specific problems, who is some man to come in and tell me that i should die in a parking lot bleeding out from not being able to get medical care? because that's what's happening. or a judge that -- no, never mind that the baby you're carrying is no spine, no brain.

abortion. so my idea is every woman that's pregnant, the baby should have a d.n.a. every man in this whole united states, new people, old people, d.n.a. in a computer. so when a baby is born, there won't be any decision about who needs to take care of that children. all those kids. we've got children that can't get into foster homes. they move from foster home to foster home. they are beaten. i personally live on $11,000 a year because i'm disabled. i worked good jobs. but you don't get diddlysquat. i'm ashamed that i only live on $11,000. you know what? i do it. i get food stamps. i think i get $111 food stamps

now. everybody needs to stay out of other people's business. my person in government is robert aderholt. when i first got on disability i was requesting help. didn't get any. now that he has been in congress and is feeling his oats, he's understanding what's going on, he is actually helping people. but there's so many in government that -- it's like they are selling and trading stocks. but that's ok. they are making millions. but that's ok. host: scarlett in alabama. of philadelphia. republican, good morning. caller: hi, good morning. thank you for taking my call, c-span. i want to talk about my congress for a second. i'm completely set up -- fed up

with them getting on tv, ranting, raving, but they can't seem to come together to pass not one bill. if you can't be governed by congress and you are being ruled by executive orders, is that not a dictatorship? i'll leave that thought to the rest of the american public. thank you. host: before you go, they came together to pass the continuing resolution this week. what did you think of that effort? we lost kafty. plainfield, new jersey, good morning, you're next. caller: yes. hi. good morning, c-span. i was calling because i was very interested with the representative from montana who said so starkly that the republicans were the party of life and the democrats were the party of death. first of all to make that

generalization requires scrutiny that's beyond this one phone call, that's beyond this one program. also i believe with the republicans who with the aid and help of the supreme court, finally killed roe vs. wade. unformed what's happening -- unfortunately what's happening as the aftermath of that there men who are -- who want their babies. let's underline that. but in the course of their pregnancy comes or experiences a complication where the choice is between life of possibly both, or death of possibly both mother and child. for this congressman or representative to say the stark truth that republicans are about life, i want that to be scrutin.

if he says the republican party at least in their actions, at least in of their rhetoric is expousing or is exercising policies that unfortunately will result in death, especially when they also talk about impendling civil -- impending civil wars, during the trump era and even now, pending civil wars between red states and blue states, which is reminiscent of our original civil war. it seems like the republicans are very much courting a death culture. and promoting a death culture. also remember covid and also know it was not the president at the time trump could not of course get a handle on it. it was a worldwide problem. i do remember the --

host: are you still with us? i think we lost her. apologize for finish your thought. we'll stay in new jersey for a second. cara was from new jersey. joel a republican from new jersey. where is mccutcheon? caller: by woodbridge, edison. like central jersey. host: what's on your mind this morning? open forum. caller: yes, sir. i'm a 74-year-old vietnam vet. if they don't pass the budget that means i won't get paid. but they are going to get paid? i don't understand why they can't pass the budget. that's the one thing. the second thing problem i got is russia invading that country. if we don't support that country, give them the weapons and tools they need to defeat russia, we are going to have ou.

i don't want them boots on the ground over there. and they are not asking for our military to get involved. they just need the weapons to fight. for their freedom. i don't understand congress. how the hell can -- excuse my language. how can they do this to that country? give them what they need. keep our men home. i know none of their sons will be going over there. that's just one vietnam vet. i was in the marine corps. i was over there in 1967 to 1969. i don't want to see my grandchildren over there fighting against the russians.ep them home. give them what they need to defend themselves. host: thanks for the call from new jersey. jim, buffalo, new york, republican, good morning. caller: good morning.

i want to talk about the education system of the united states. hello? host: go ahead, jim. what are your thoughts? caller: i thought i lost you. i actually took a bar graph and started tracking the education system of the united states from the 1970's to the year 2020. and using a bar graph you can actually see a massive decline in the education of our kids because, i'm going to say that it's because of the creation of the department of education, which was created under jimmy carter back in the 1970's. but it began after the department of education was created. we no longer teach history in our schools. we barely touch on civics. we did away with history in favor of social studies. which is people's personal opinions and views on how their

society is run. it's not actually teaching what actually occurred. kids today don't even know, for example, where their own city is located on a map of their own state. they don't know who won the civil war. they don't know who we were fighting in world war ii. they don't know the issues that brought us to the brink of nuclear war with the cuban missile crisis. it's our education system. i'm listening to these college kids spewing pro palestine when they don't know anything about history because palestine was never a country in the first place. it was a city state that was existing in judea, which was, you would call israel now, and when the romans took over the area, what happened was the people that lived in the city state of palestine were supportive of the romans.

the romans did not like -- host: before we go through thousands of years of history, do you have kids of your own? caller: i'm a grandfather with two grandchildren now. host: how old are your grandchildren? caller: i'm a retired vet and also retired highway department. host: how old are your grandkids? caller: i got a 6-year-old and 2-year-old. host: for your kids, are you happy with their education? caller: we actually teach them what is not being taught in the schools. so they are a little bit better informed. my wife for 20 years we used to babysit. i would actually sit down and do homework assignments with the kids like mathematics. they did away with basic math and started teaching common core. i would teach the kids basic math. they understood it better than when they were doing common core. i explained to kids about what happened during historical events.

they said how come we never talk about it. this is over a 20-year period. my wife and i baby sat about 100 kids all together. i'm basing everything upon what i'm seeing and also what i observe happening that the u.s. military academy at west point when one of the cadets was pro communist, and he opened up a shirt and had a t-shirt underneath his uniform promoting grivara who was a butcher. it's the education system needs to be totally overhauled before we wind up losing our country to socialist teachings, pro-communist teaching. hoeupg thanks for the call from buffalo. it's a snowy daily for capitol hill. how much snow do you have in buffalo right now? caller: we have four feet where i'm at. i'm 11 miles from downto buffalo. host: four feet. it's maybe going to be three or four inches here today in d.c. good luck to you in buffalo. nancy, south carolina, democrat.

good morning. you're next. caller: how are you? host: doing well. caller: what i'm calling about i feel with the abortion and the roe vs. wade. what happened i think is that we have elderly people calling the shots. they are not producing children anymore. and i hate the governors in these states who are passing these laws. they are not producing children. husbands, fathers, brothers all the men need to get together and tell them to stay out of their ladies' life. because they have control of their life. the lady. they should have had doctors to come in and speak to the supreme

court and explain to them, you may want to keep your child, but you have circumstances where you can't. a woman can't even go and have a baby extracted from her if the child is not alive anymore inside of her. this is wrong. forrest -- fathers, brothers, husbands speak up. and also i wanted to speak to my governor in south carolina. stay away from things that don't control you, or you have to speak about. because you don't know. you're not a doctor. that's what iabout. host: this is jimmy in missouri. independent, good morning. caller: howdy. host: howdy, jimmy, go ahead. caller: i'd like to talk about the abortion thing. they had so many things to keep from a woman getting pregnant

besides killing an unborn baby. i'm in my late 60's. i grew up in a family that had 12 kids. and we were -- over half of us was migrant farm workers. we lived a hard life. but we had, nowadays we got all kinds of stuff to keep the woman from getting pregnant. i can understand giving a woman an abortion when it's necessary like incest and rape and the baby's dead inside of her, whatever case it might be. but to kill a baby that's in good health just because you don't want it, go ahead and give her the abortion. but spade her afterwards. you don't have to worry about second abortions. third. host: got your point, jimmy. more calls in our open forum coming up in our last half-hour of the "washington journal." as we promised members of congress joining us throughout this open forum.

joining us now via zoom, congressman glenn ivey, the democrat from maryland. good morning. joining us on the annual march for life takes place on the national mall. right near your workplace, the united states capitol. your view as several callers have been talking about the abortion debate today on the state of that debate a little over a year and a half since roe v. wade was overturned. guest: well, i think it's pretty clear the supreme court's decision in dobbs unleashed a mess on the country. you got a lot of states where there's limited to no availability. i remember the 10-year-old girl who was rape survivor who had to leave the state to get an abortion done. got other states where the rights are protected. to the extent the republicans are -- you got republicans trying to nationalize abortion restrictions to five or six

weeks. numbers like that. i think the 2024 election means that those kind of rights for women could really be put at risk depending what happens and who gets elected in november. host: what's the law in maryland where you are from right now? do you agree with where it is? guest: maryland, we are a deep blue state here. i think it's pretty much the same environment we had during the roe era. and i don't see any change coming to that in the near future. i think there have been steps to try to protect the rights. and there's also an effort -- maryland's close to many southern states that have restricted abortion, either dramatically or pretty significantly. there are people that come to maryland and other jurisdictions here in the north to try to get those services. i think maryland, we are in good shape. but that could change if there

is a national election that allows the republicans to put a national -- federal bill in place that would overrule the state laws that are in place in places like maryland or california. host: remind viewers our coverage, live coverage of the march for life begins at noon eastern here on c-span. moving from the abortion debate to the financial and budget debates in this country, congressman. yesterday, of course, the senate and then the house passing that legislation setting a new funding deadline now for early march. what sort of expectation should americans have that congress can get its fiscal business done in this latest deadline? right direction. it is kind of groundhog day. instead of actually getting these bills done, or at least a c.r. that would give us a year extension or something along those lines, the republicans keep doing these six weeks or kind of incremental pushes.

saying they are going to get the appropriations bills done, and then don't do it. we'll see. fortunately there is a lot of leadership, better leadership coming from the senate side on this. i think speaker johnson's got a real problem corralling his caucus. he's got pretty much an even split based on the vote yesterday. i think it was 107 in favor and 10 # against or something along -- 106 against or something along those lines. the extreme wing of his republican caucus was livid. just for pushing the dates back so the government didn't shut down. it will be interesting to see how he can manage this. i guess i the needle piece. the democrats continue to be ready to work with him and republicans in the house that want to get something done so we can stop walking up to the edge of the cliff every six weeks. host: you were a yes on that latest c.r. yesterday, correct? guest: absolutely, yes.

host: in terms of the other big piece of legislation we are watching a possible deal onboarder security. possible -- on border security that could be combined with funding for ukraine emergency security funding. what's your expectation for that? how soon could it emerge? and if it passes the senate, does it have a pass in the house? guest: it looks like -- there's certainly positive developments on that front. the senate's been having bipartisan negotiations on getting a bill done. the white house has been involved with that. secretary mayorkas has been involved with that. house democratic leadership's been involved and seems to be generally supportive of what's coming. we don't love everything they are talking about, but seems to be moving in the right direction. again this is back on the house republicans. are they going to be able to pull enough votes together to get it done? and can speaker johnson, who controls access to the house floor, is he going to be able to bring this to the floor so we

can have a straight up or down vote and get it done? i think if they come to the floo votes. the real challenge is either will he bring it to the floor or will they try and add a bunch of poison pill provisions that essentially kill it? they passed h.r. 2 earlier in the year which was their version of border security, it was laced with so much of the poison pill stuff that the senate, republicans and democrats, said you know what, this is d.o.a., we'll start from scratch. that's how we got to where we are. host: poison pill. what's an example of a poison pill that could be added to this that would make you an immediate no? guest: some of the stuff they had in there i hated -- i'm on homeland security committee. i saw some of these added. cutting federal funds to community action groups like say

the catholic church is providing services to immigrants, or migrants. we are talking food, shelter, education. i think that's outrageous. another one i thought was pretty shocking was for kids coming through the court process, we need to expand the number of judges so we can resolve these cases faster, you got a 5 or 6-year-old kid coming through a court, they said no. you can't provide any kind of legal assistance to that kid. he's on his own. which is ridiculous. you got larger things, too, like the expenditures on the wall. which are over the top. i think there is a lot more you could do from a security standpoint rather than spending the billions and billions of dollars to build 900 miles of new wall. and they hen fixing the stuff they put up in the trump era. it's those issues that i think raise the problem. if we had more border security agents, judges, i think they are

looking at making some changes to legal status. who gets to stay and who doesn't. i would be open to those kind of changes for sure. i agree, the border needs assistance. we need to do more to address that. you are going to have some democrats that don't like the final deal. a lot of us will be willing to take a close look and what to support something to get it done. host: a minute ago you mentioned secretary mayorkas. a member of the house homeland security committee. your thoughts on this impeachment effort? do you think the house will eventually vote to impeach him? guest: probably. over the course of the last couple of hearings we have had it's pretty much been exposed as a little stunt to use the words that former secretary used to describe the impeachment process going on now. i understand why they are doing it, i guess. they think it's a good issue for them politically in an election year. it's really ripping up the

constitution. impeachment is for things like bribery, treason, high crimes and misdemeanors to use the exact language of the constitution. they have essentially acknowledged they don't have anything approaching that. and they haven't brought any kind of experts in or constitutional scholars or even people who dealt with impeachment matters before in congress. instead the democrats have brought in people. there have been letters, even for people like jonathan turley, a solid republican witness, but he came in and like he did with the biden impeachment process, he said, there is no evidence to support impeachment here. like i said mike chertoff and others, normizen. twaoef constitutional scholars that said it's not there. if you want to do an impeachment, at least have the evidence to back it up. this would be the first one for a cabinet member in over 150 years. it should be a very high

threshold. the republicans aren't even getting close to meeting it. but they have the votes to impeach him if they want. host: i know it's a snow day on capitol hill. still a busy day four. what else do you have going on legislatively? what are you working on? guest: i've got several bills going on. we just had the uvalde piece report come out from the department of justice. i have a bill that would raise the age to buy assault weapons from 18 to 21, which would have prevented the shooter in the uvalde case and others from having the ability to buy an ar-15. i'd prefer a full-scale assault weapons ban, this seemed like a reasonable compromise. we are hoping to move that through. by the way, you already have to be 21 to buy a handgun. that was a reagan era provision. let's try and find a way to help address those problems. r#i have another bill that's bipartisan, these wave of a.t.m.

thefts across the country, i'm working with congressman rose from tennessee to address that. and create federal prosecutions for cases where they have stolen from anything other than a bank. it could be convenience store or gas station or whatever. right now that's not a federal offense. we'd like to change that. we have multiple bills like those. the big ones i hope we'll move aid to gaza, humanitarian aid i think is critical. and the other big ones that the white house has brought up military assistance to israel. military assistance to ukraine. and addressing the southwestern border finally, hopefully the house republicans will move forward with that. those are key bills that have a huge impact. i really hope speaker johnson and the house republicans will work to get those done. that will make a big difference for the country. host: congressman glenn evee, democrat from maryland. democrat of the homeland

security committee, judiciary committee as well. appreciate your time on the "washington journal." guest: thanks for having me. host: we'll continue with our open forum again. any public policy, political issue you want to talk about. phone lines are yours until our program ends today in about 25 minutes. 10 a.m. eastern. go ahead and keep calling in, the numbers are on your screen. as you are calling i this is the front page of "usa today" this morning. uvalde failure outlined in a kansas citying department of justice -- kansas citying -- skating department of justice report. the attorney general of the united states, merrick garland, talked about that report that came out. here's a little bit of what he had to say. >> i met with some of the survivors and loved ones of the victims of the horrific mass shooting at robb elementary school. i came here to tell them that the united states department of justice has finished its critical incident review. in understeaking this review at the request of the then-mayor,

the justice department committed to using our expertise and independence to assess the law enforcement response to the shooting and provide guidance moving forward. as i told families and survivors last night, the department's review concluded that a series of major failures, failures in leadership and tactics, communications and training, and in preparedness were made by law enforcement leaders and others responding to the mass shooting at robb elementary. as a result, 33 students and three of their teachers, many of whom had been shot, were trapped in a room with an active shooter for over an hour as law enforcement officials remained outside. i also told the families and survivors how deeply sorry i am for the losses that day and for the losses they have suffered every day since.

i told them that the priority for the justice department in preparing this report has been to honor the memories of those who were taken from them. and i told the families gathered last night what i hope is clear among the hundreds of pages and thousands of details in this report. their loved ones deserve better. the law enforcement response at robb elementary school on may 24, 2022 and in the hours and days after was a failure that should not have happened. we hope to honor the victims and survivors by working together to try to prevent anything like this from ever happening again. here or anywhere. host: merrick garland, that took place yesterday. back to your phone calls in open forum. again, about 20 minutes left here in our program today. this is roy out of palm beach,

florida, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. how you all doing this morning. host: doing well, go ahead. caller: i want to get right to the point. i'm in the state of florida. i live in palm beach county. i wanted to get to the point mainly about donald trump and the majority of congress men and women and our state are endorsing donald trump. also both of our senators, marco rubio and rick scott. that tells a big story right there. ron desantis up in new hampshire needs to get his you know what back to florida and keep our concentrating on his own state, what's going on here with the ill lease that i'm seeing new patients every day here in my district in palm beach county. it doesn't look good. desantis up in new hampshire, he

basically without trump he never would have been governor. he doesn't get out of the race after new hampshire, get back t, i have been here since 1955. host: was there ever a point you thought it was a good idea for ron desantis to run for president? caller: never a point. never should have run for president. not the way he stuck donald trump in the back. he's a backstabber. i voted for him, ok. only because trump endorsed him. if it wasn't for trump endorsing him -- was getting his butt beat. two electioning ago -- elections ago. when i look at -- byron donalds, all of them, michael walz, they are all endorsing trump in the state of florida. our governor's only state, his own congresspeople within our state are endorsing donald trump. host: that's roy in florida.

speaking of ron desantis, he's set to speak today in nashua, new hampshire, ahead of the first in the nation pry marery. we'll be cering that live at 4:45 p.m. here on c-span. c-span.org, and th free c-span rido a -- video app. 4: 45. an 6:30 p.m. we'll show you an evt from nikki haley's press event and rally today in manchester, new hampshire. it is 6: p.m. eastern on c-span, c-span.og, and the free c-span now videopp watch all of our campaign coverage this friday evening here on c-span. to minnesota, wilson, this is linda. line for democrats. thanks for waiting. caller: good morning, john. host: good morning. caller: great to talk to you. been a while. i have one quick question for you, the host, because you are the host today. i'm curious as to why we don't

do round tables anymore. i used to love it -- i suppose it was covid, maybe trump, don't know we don't get to have a democrat and a republican sitting there with you talking about these things where we can call in and both of them are there to answer our questions. that was just -- host: linda, we'll keep trying to do that. and we are occasionally successful in getting members to come on together. sometimes not. it's not for lack of trying. caller: that's kind of my whole issue that brings me in is the dysfunction. it's the dysfunction in washington. and it's the dysfunction in us, we the last caller prior to you talking with mr. ivey and the interview, jimmy had called in. jimmy believes that women who have had abortion should be

spade. is that not outrageous in the year 2024? that's insane. way back in 1981 when i graduated from high school, i had to write a silly paper. i titled it, the great migration. and it was how can we -- what would be our solution to fixing the problems that ailed our country at the time. and for me the only thing i could think of, and i still say it today even more strongly today because of, thank you, jimmy, we need to cut this country in half. i know that sounds absurd. i sit and look out my window and i see my neighbor flying a confederate flag in northern minnesota, and i just about can't stand it anymore. i'm 60 years old. sure i haven't been fighting for roe all my life but for a good

50 years i have been out there beating the pavement for this. and we are still fighting about it. this is absurd. and we have men that want us to be spade if we have an abortion. that's absurd. we need to cut the country in half. that's all i can say. that's the only way to save this country. host: on that neighbor, do you have much of an interaction with that neighbor? have you ever talked to them about that flag? caller: you know, it's ironic because their 80-year-old mother lived next door to them a few years ago. she passed about six years ago now. and i took care of her. i went over there and i cleaned her house. we played cards. i mowed her lawn because, heck, they weren't going to do it. since she died, no. we have had very little contact. if i see them in the yard i wave because i believe in killing people with kindness. it hasn't worked. the flag still flies.

host: linda. to marlene in sacramento. line for democrats. good morning. caller: yes, hi. my name is marilyn. i'm calling in regard to the religion and politics. i don't know if people should know this because of history why the pill prims pled to come to -- fled to come to america was because they were persecuted by the roman church. when they put the constitution together they wrote it to have freedom of religion and to separate politics. they didn't want a king and they did not want a pope when they came here. when i see this nationalist christian movement, people need to be aware of that. beware of who you are voting for because if you don't know bible prophecy, study daniel and the book of revelation. america is there. revelation 13 verse 11.

study the bible prophecy. daniel and revelation. you can find everything online. do your own research. mixing religion and politics is like gasoline and striking a match. host: to joe, shirley, new york, republican. good morning. caller: yes, how you doing. i just want to really say to the democrat viewers and to the republican viewers. there is an old saying back when i was young, i'm 72. it takes two to tango. and i hate to say this, but neither one knows how to dance. i see what's going on over here in this life the way it was when donald trump was president. i'm not going to praise him. he had his faults just like all us humans do. he did this, he said that. he groped women. he did whatever.

that real -- but then i look at the president we have now, joe biden. what did he do? he put his hands on the bible and swore to protect this country from foreign domestic terrorism and so on and so forth. that was the swore he did. it was on the news and everything. and the first thing he did was, when he came in, i think it was the second day, he signed a bill which destroyed our oil. they did a job on oil. we knew that once the oil goes like that, everything else is going to follow. everything will get jacked up in prices, which is happening. and hasn't stopped. and on top -- host: what does gas cost today in shirley, new york? caller: to be honest with you, i put the new grade in. that's $3.47 or something like that. whatever it is.

i don't follow it. i don't get out as much right now. my wife in the hospital with owe ovarian cancer, and my mind is not on any of that stuff. what i'm trying to say is that after he came in he did that. and then what you don't see on the news, but it was on the news then was when he was in front of the cameras he says to the world, come into america. he opened up our borders. and the major thing that really got me when i was watching that thing. they are trying to impeach mayorkas, marjorie taylor greene spoke to the lady over there, i think her name was dunne, not sure. probably off on that. and she said, who do we blame? do we blame mayorkas or blame biden for opening -- and all it was pro -- democrats was

basically acting like his lawyer and they were all jumping into all this other kind of talk. and the reason why i say the republicans failed, too, because the way this country came to where it is now. yes, it was the democrat president we had that did it to this country. don't get me wrong. like i said donald trump has his faults, too. they all do. they all do. host: that's joe in new york. this is eric also in new york. line for democrats. go ahead. caller: good morning, john. yeah, well -- yeah, i look to the media and i find that -- i know that -- we hear these things all the time. and best way to a good bottom line is to, you know, show some

bad news. seems like technology has focused us, sort of like we are all living in our own little coliseum looking at shiny things and gory things. and they absorb our thoughts. little do we know outside the coliseum people are getting along just fine. they are not banging each other's heads very much. in the c-span tradition, i resolved 10 years ago to when i was alone with people i would turn to them and say, hello. can i ask you for your opinion? sir, ma'am, whatever. do you think-i'm taking a personal poll i would say. i did it in a uniform way. do you think most people are nice? and i asked thousands of people that question. and after about■v 1,3500 of them -- 1,500 of them. i added another question which was ok. seeing how you know i roll.

do three or four of you a day when i'm alone with a person i ask them if they think most people are nice. and my rejoinder is,■5 ok. what do you think most people told me when i asked them question number one? and i will tell you that i had such a restoration of my belief in the product of america that i stopped for a little while during covid and started falling into the misrepresentation of how we regard each other in this country until i started asking the question again. people are alive and well and have a decent regard for one another. host: bottom line, people are nice? caller: well, i would say yes, they are. and nobody beat me about the face. i asked thousands of people. and people believed that i

actually did it. which is true. and only three people are what i would call nasty to me. that's over 8,000 people. to me it restores my belief in the american product. host: eric out of new york. less than 10 minutes left this morning on the "washington journal." eddie, cincinnati, ohio, independent. thanks for without waiting. caller: ok. i just would like to give my kreu particular -- critique on the open border. the way we -- in fact it's been opened for the last 100 years. what we need to do is get whoever done all the bitching about the open border is to send two people from each party down there and let them stay down there for a month. by the time they come back they'll figure out how to do it. because one party blames the other one. whoever is in office, that's who

they blame. and the border it's been opened for god knows how long. unless you are going to get somebody down there that always blame the other party because the border is open, nothing will be done. but send somebody down there to stay for a while and they'll see what's going on and then they will figure out how to close it. you can critique me about a problem i am having because you are not there. and then i can turn around and do the same thing for you. but send somebody down there to get in the midst of everything and then they can figure out how to close it because it's been opened for years because we all came from someplace in this country. everybody was not born here. all of our parents wasn't born here. we were. but everybody came from somewhere.point.

before you go, i know you were listening to that previous caller. do you think most people are nice? caller: no. they put up a false front. but, no. no. you can be nice, and you can put up a false front to pretend to be nice. into. host: thanks for the call from cincinnati. this is larry, north carolina, independent. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i thought i was going to be speaking with representative evee because i was -- ivey because i was chagrined and flabbergasted about what he said concerning the abortion issue. he seemed to say something about a national -- next republican president or whatever might do a national law for never to have abortions. i kind of find that strange

because the supreme court just voted down and said that roe v. wade was unconstitutional. so i think that they have the common sense that they would do the same thing with something like that. representative ivey, i was so excited because i was a former towson tiger, nice university in maryland i attended. i figured he would have the common sense to stop making accusations of the blue team versus the red team so things can finally come to common sense and we can get things done in this country. thank you so much for taking my call. host: larry, one more time for you. just based on those previous calls. do you think most people are nice? caller: yes, i do. i think that they might be down on their luck and might lash out, but for the most part

people are kind. host: thanks for the call. from the tar heel state. less than five minutes. marlon, oregon, republican. good morning. caller: good morning, john. thank you for taking my call. so this country is divided. it is cut in half. and it's not going to change. i believe that barack obama is on his third term. and they tried to commit -- they did commit a soft coup in this country to get rid of donald trump. they tried to impeach him. that didn't work. passed in the house because pelosi had a hold of the house. it didn't pass in the senate. the problem is he didn't have enough time to fix the border. they all blame donald trump for the problems in this country. he didn't have enough time. when they say that to build the

wall. he built 500 miles of wall. he did get mexico to pay for it by getting mexico to give the united states 26,000 troops. so it cost money for those troops. if they didn't give the troops, he would have put tariffs on them for bringing stuff into the united states. you can't say he didn't get mexico to pay for the wall. host: what do you mean gave the united states the troops? caller: he put 26,000 troops on -- mexican troops on the south end -- on the border side of mexico. to help keep the immigrants from coming in to -- into the border. everybody forgets that if the border was sealed off we still allow 1.3 million or 1.4 million

illegals to come into this country legally to stand in line and to get through with their paperwork. talks about them. host: do you think we should shut down legal immigration, marlon? caller: what's that? host: are you ok with legal immigration? caller: yes. absolutely. we let 1.4 million into this country every year. that go through the paperwork. and they are standing behind the gate to come through the gate the right way. that's the way it should be. we should have legal immigration into this country. but not coming under the gate. that's all totally legal. so we have to stop that. the thing that needs to be happening right now is shut the border down completely and get a handle on this immigration coming in here. we are not checking them for anything. we got 26,000 chinese, young men that's come into this country. 12,000 russians.

and from all the rest of the countries. we are going to get hit. the other terrorist problem here. especially because of all the problems happening in the middle east. host: marlon in oregon. our last caller in today's "washington journal." we'll be back here tomorrow morning at 7 a.m. eastern. 4 a.m. pacific. reminder of our new hampshire campaign coverage. this evening the desantis campaign event, 4:45 eastern. and the haley campaign event at 6:30 p.m. eastern. all here on c-span. we'll see you tomorrow. have a great friday. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2024] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy visit ncicap.or >> today, pro-life advocates attend the annual march for life rally in washington, d.c., it's the second time for the event since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade in 2022. live coverage begins at noon

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minnesota representative and 2024 democratic presidential candidate dean phillips spoke to voters here in manchester. he's one of two candidates challenging president biden for the democratic nomination. president biden's not appearing on new hampshire's primary ballot. his campaign is relying on write-in votes. the democrat party's calendar this year said south carolina is its first official primary instead of new hampshire. former 2020 candidate andrew yang was also at this campaign stop with dean phillips. it's about an hour. presidential candidate andrew yang. it is just under an hour. [cheering] >> ready, new hampshire? how have you all been? the last four years, have not been the greatest. i will be honest. if things were great, i probably would not be here. i'm here to talk about two things -- dean phillips and ai.