♪ host:d morning it is saturday, 1/20/2024. a major endorsement for donald

trump days before the first primary and an attack in syria which i blaming on israel. we want to hear your top news story of the week. for independents (202) 748-8002, for republicans (202) 748-8001m0 text us at (202) 748-80 let us know your name and where you are writing in from an on social media facebook.com/cspan. to the latest on the attacks in syria here is a story from the new york times looking at this issue from a photo at the scene of the attack saying■■&■÷ iran s

israel for the attacks. it killed twoes into other members of the force including two a semi official agency. here is another image of this scene of the attack. they accuse israel olaunchin at. the chief of intelligence in guard force was killed. the overseas guard supports militias around the middle east including hamas, hezbollah and the houthis.

iran is a long time of hamas. ■?in the wall street journal the is an image of a map of where those conflicts are playing out in the region. you can see here, iran supported militia attacks on u.s. bases and israel is battling hamas in gaza. skirmishes continue in the west bank and yemen launcd rockets towards israel and the u.k. and u.s. forces are responding to houthi attacks on the red sea. john kirby had a briefing where he fielded several questions about iran'sctions. [video clip]

>> could you talk about■çv)z at? what was communicated to the houthis? >> i am not come to get into that. there was a practical message delivered to a message was delivered and publicly we have made clear are concerned about whatthis are doing and that they are getting support from iran. this administration has issued this administration, iranian sanctions. >> they said the security of the

red sea was tied to the ado you? >> to take it in a couple of pieces, if you look at the 32 attacks that the houthis■t targeted. sometimes there are multiplelly sure about the target. let's look at majority of the attack that you can identify the a single one was destined for israel. they were all destined for other ports. the argument tha in gaza, they e driving a stake through a straw man. as■> for the resistance continuing, i have said it many

times we have national security inren region and we have moved additional military resources into the region to protect those interest and we mean what we say. y a look at what happened a few nights ago. host: we are looking for your top news story. some of the stories we have been following are the iowa caucus results as well is the upcoming new hampshire primary, the tensions in the middle east and the congss talks about the border and ukraine aid. the march for life rally, abortion politics as well commin agreeing to a deposition. let's start in nebraska on the republican line. caller: my top story was a

report on laura's fox channel with the warehouse discovered that had multiple vials ebola, mice infected withis. they went in and destroyed the lab and had hundreds of pounds of things that they destroyed by fire. the americans did, the person w in charge of this was from china. he and his whole staff. are minor because i don't think

they have anything to charge him with. host: let's go to michigan on the democratic line. caller: i wanted to talk about the national debt and the budget. the reason i am doing that is my congressman heizinga is going to have a bipartisan debt committee. i have three articles to suggest to read. increasing the deficit can be traced to gop tax cuts frotax f, another one here pro public, the title is donald trump built a

nationalw0 so big it will weigh down the economy and they have a chart here. the king of debt promised to reduce the national debt and his tax code made it surge and he oversaw the third-biggest defic(sit any president. the republicans are not serious about the debt. they want to extenthtats. the cuts given outand it will it even more. host: thank you for your call. i want to bring up an article about that fiscal commission he was discussing which meant in a

house panel this week and included from the hill, they did not take the committeen&ill with 22-12 with democrats bringing in some republicans to pass the measure. that would to move forward for a larger vote in the house. let's go now to roar rori on the republican line. caller: good morning, two things are the border and impeachment. the borders should be outgoing d ■you can process them to get their names.

on the impeachment of bid■[ndmah amenen of biden. he is hopelesy mentally incompetent. and cut that short and then have trump come in. that's it. host: next step is thomas in hagerstown, maryland on the democratic line. caller: nikki haley seems to have a problem with people talking about racism and slavery. huthe simple way she should talk about it with her son-in-law. her daughter married a black football and that should be an easy way to find out.

find out what he thinks. host: ryan in san clemente, california. caller: thank you for taking my call. t are lesser known but very, very important. the first one is mr. trump mention thinks about the civil war and it wasn't so bad and if it had not been from the civil war abraham lincoln would be nothing mr. president and very sensitive about the fact that abraham lincoln is so popular. you know what abraham lincoln did say you can fool some of the people some of the but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. thing is this post by mike johnson to push religion in

our■w country as being over government. we have over 200en of religious believers in this country just and christians. not anyone else, just 200 christian denominations which include jehovah's witness and christian science■$ and the only issue don't believe in saluting the flag or dancing or anything else. the bottom line is we have to really analyze that and that is the reason why our country came up with theision of church and state. there should be no commingling between religion and government. appreciate you taking my call. host: you mentioned those

comments about the civil war and abraham lincoln what'd you think about it? caller: it is god awful he is demeaning the fact that we killed hundreds of thousands of americans in a rights which it s out to be slavery's property rights. obviously it was their property. that's why we went through the whole process. we were fighting a war to determine if human beings were property are not. it wasn't justr country we had d servants who came over here who had to serve people for seven years and they were slaves and had to do exactly what they had to do and women

landowners were the only ones able to vote until the 19th century. demeaning the process by talking about abraham lincoln who put our country back together inside people are slaves. host: we had a major endorsement for donald trump yesterday the former candidate tim scott officially endorsed trump in concorde, new hhiys be. [video clip] >> a president who will

close our southern border today. we need donald trump. we need a presidentwe need dona. we need a president who will protect your social security. we need donald trump. we need a presidentho will stop the crime and recklessness in the streets. we need a president who will der. we need donald trump.

we need a presidentr our taxes e our taxes. we need a president like donald trump.■p'g we need a president who understands the american people and sick and tired of being sick an tirwe need donald trump. we need a foreign adversaries are afraid of and our allies respect. we need donald trump. we need a president who doesn't see black or white. we need a presidenwh sees americans as one american family. we need donald trump. and that is why i hampshire to endorse the next president of

these united states. president donald trump. next up we have frank in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, honor democratic line. are you still with us. ■>our independent mind. caller: i would like to quote gore vidal from a book called from 1952-1992. monotheism, a single sky god is the greatest single disaster to both all the human

race. how many of these people believe in god? they're just doing it for the we st is that your top news story of the week? caller: abortion yeah. zoin a debate with christopher hitchens.

he quoted rental terry the great evangelical. power we will kill the abortion doctors and turn this into a christian nation.

host: i want to use your point to bring up an article from the washington examiner about the march for life that happened yesterday. ahead of republicans passed to anti-abortion bills on the 51st annual march for life. ■they passed the supporting prnt act which seeks to prevent health and human services from discriminating against pregnancy resource centers. the pregnant students rights acts which requires colleges to inform female students of their rights under title ix if they choose to carry their child to term.

joel in mountain home, arkansas. caller: thank you for coming back to me. the southern border, all of our borders were under control when president trump was in office. he built over 500 miles of but yet they stopped this when they got into power and sold all thisqcbó equipment thae had already purchased. there is a■v bigger picture with this border than people see and i would like to say this. the blue states are now g

schools and property tax. nt about slaves, i am an old guy. i had nothing to do was slaves, may be family did. ght. it was very unfortunate but even back in the bible days there were abortion is wrong. taxpayer money should not be usx+ed.my choices the child shod live. host: is this one of your top issues for the upcoming election? caller: oh yes. these babies, they have a beating heart in them. i know the women as some of the men involved in, they have

a big lump on their after they think about what they've done. host: next up, we have robert in line. caller: good morning. i want to talk about nikki haley. she talked about the civil war she didn't know what it was all about. slavery was a bad thing but she also said this country has never been a racist country. can you remember that? to a president who was raised in the 1960'slç the death of john f. kennedy and the death of martin luther king and the death of bobby kennedy.

and then those young students from kent state protesting against the vietnam war. we had the delve of malcolm x another one of our leaders. we had people like strom thurmond and the ku klux klan the democratic convention chicas year regarding voting rights being taken away. we had vietnam and when they return from the warcalling them. we have the cuban missile crisis. the world could've ended the day afresh in the united states --

ended the day. host: next we have joseph on the independent line. caller: trial and they know they ain't doing nothing. don't they know donald trump as above it all? host: do you think the president should be above the law? caller: no, i don't. but he is. host: next up we have kent ino6 erie, illinois on the republican line. caller: good morning, finally got through. bear with me just a second if u would. as 17 i joined the navy because they tell me how pretty the polynesian girls were. host: what's your story of the

week? caller: trump's win in iowa and the people who support described nicole. people who look at the border who would say it look at the sc, this is terrible. all of these things that biden has done and the democrats will not condemn it. you may lookv= horrible but if a democrat is promoting it you were for it to. before you cut me off i just want to say how trump is winning. we are not a cult.

bluff sauce. i am a three tour vietnam veteran. our children today don't know who rockefeller is. the man who turned oil and turned oil and turns it into kerosene. the democrats called them the robber barons. if it had not been for we would just be like the arabs. host: on his point about the border. there is an artic here that lawmakers see hope and

bipartisan talks about the border in ukraine aid saying a n border security could be on the floor next week. that was after congressional leaders had that meeting on wednesday. o to lee honor democratic line. on our democratic line. caller: dumb? the issue is racism and that is what it is. wet to come to that understanding. host: next up, chris in michigan on the republican line. caller i just want to talk

about the supposed systemic racism that goes on in this country. i think it is a bunch of baloney. if we were such a racist nation wide we■fave millionaires like oprah winfrey, barack obama? the thousands of sports out there? if we are so racist why are they so successful in makinglions of dollars? that is all i have to say. host: there is an article on forbes■+this issue looking at the race of millionaires in this country saying the vast majority of those had wealth between one million and 4 million.

for african-american millionaires the number is growing but lower than other ethnic demographics specifically black people represent 8% of millionaires, 76%, 8% are asian. that does not line up with the demographic distribution of race in this country. next we good morning c-span. i just want to make a comment. i happen to read this section oe they were talking about the confederacy of the civil war. ■)■2they were talking about peoe

who could not be trusted andbele on the ballot. peconstitution especially those sections and they would get a better understanding of why trump is of the trouble he is now. host: now this look at a comment we received via text from jimbo. my toptory is how republicans don't care they are supporting a man for president who has been convicted of sexual assault is a reflection of their own moral character. next up we have donda on our independent line. good morning america, i

voted democratic and republican esidts.i vote for the content oe and what they represent. do you remember during the presitrump presidency when he sd trusted the russian security apparatus more than the american apparatus. this man is not fit to be president. you have lindsey graham, ted cruz, this man assaulted ted cruz, his wife and father and he went around and kissed his ring.

this mancrook and he has been dg this for years. host: next up ray on the democratic line. caller: good morning. host: what is your top story of the week? caller: i am a recovering democrat. the top story is the iowa caucus. it's■= the direction the country is going in and we will be changing parties in power. i abraham lincoln was a republican. the civil righ a 1964 and voting acts right were passed by

republicans and the apposition of many democrats called million people there are evil people in our country who don't have good hearts and souls and those people are racist. i don't think any country in the history of the world has done more for the equality and benefit of all people in the united states. i am so proud to be an american. i am so proud to be a believer in jesus christ and i believe our country is going to get better and that ouuntr but the real question is the one that john kennedy asked, stop asking with the country can do start asking what you can do for the country.

stand up your own two feet and make your way through■a life.tht of all, t family is the most important thing in the black community and anything that can be done to support the family unit, that is where it all begins. host: we are looking forhe week. we are following the iowa caucus in the increase in mile eastern tension. the white house and congress passed a funding bill. e border in ukraine aid. the march for life and the rally washington. the house gop and hunter biden

ongoing discussion. next up is david in berkeley, south carolina on the republican line. caller: that last gentleman talked about thei encourage peot the civil right acts that were sponsored by dwight eisenhower in his conservative attorney general. how ly opposed both of those until he could no longer fight and jumped on the bandwagon when he became president. abortion and i wanted to appeal to people to

stop and think for a second that a woman is not born with the y chromosome's awareness i come from? the father. so it can't be her body. she wasn't born with the wide chromosomewhat person has two hd two sets of sex organs? another reason they can't be the same body. host: i'm confused are you referring to abortion or trance rights? s rights? caller: the fact that a baby in the womb is a separate life,

especially a male baby. 3f■o5çthe blood of the baby ande mother cannot mix, they are completely separated and the placenta is used to exchange gases and nutrients between the baby and mother much like how a baby■s cycles and the baby nurss the mother. from that march for life. republican chris smith was one of the speakers at the march and here is some of his comments. [video clip] >> reject the violence of abortion, abortion pills that started the baby to death. ■)■2we are greatly encouraged ad

filled with hope and resolve. lives are being saved. we have setbacks here and theree will not give up. at least 25 states havetatutes that are in effect or being litigated to protect life. we birth but we won't quit in new jersey to try to overturn a law that was passed by her governor. two new important pro-life bills authored by two lawmakerswe are. has politicized to aggressively

support abortion on demand including a court press to get taxpayers to pay for it. host: next up our louisiana line. caller: two things i have heard on your channel. i think women should be in charge of their own body. !xa woman who has been, they should be in charge of their own body. host: what was your second

point? you said you had two stories? caller: i agree with the guy that said donald trump should not even be running. he should be in jail. host: thank you. next we have james on our democratic line. caller: good morning. host: is your top story of the week? caller: in 80's, in the mid 80's. host: next up on a republican

line. ec2good morning david. caller: i'm here. i got to talking before the bell. i want to make two war. for one thing her comment about the civil war it. i want to give her some space on that. people have to keep in mind that slavery was global. it was brought to the u.s. in the early 1600s but it was brought here by the europeans from the west slave trade. no one talks about the east african slave trade. they still had legal slavery

until 1924. zthe civil war did not start ovr slavery, it became about slavery. if you l at his inaugural speech they were trying to leave the union. those states did not secede until blinken called for a truce. -- lincoln called for a truce. the fihaf the staff you don't ho leave. we will do anything to stop slavery. there was something called the corbyn amendment.

one of the concerns of the soutwhern states was they were concerned that congress would pass a law that would interview th thevery so they came up with the bipartisan agreement to make sure the slavery would never be changed. st what is your top new story of this week? caller: people keep talking out her comment in the beginning of the civil war. there is a lot of ignorance about slavery. racism was worse than presented but it was everywhethis court ae guaranteed slavery. they did ■[■ not need to secede

to protect slavery and lincoln was going to guarantee the host: next up we have edna. caller: i don't know how to begin except for nikki haley. that is a very important comment from someone running for office in this country. yes, this is a racist country. i have lived from one end of this country to the other. my father was a tuskegee airmen and i know that tuskegee airmen

were a result of rooseve' wife having push the concept that we african-americans are capable of operating complicated machinery. this is a racist manner in whicf nonwhites have been treatedour e relegated to areas thatunprofite in. our asian population was limited from the west coast for fear of being overrun by chinese and japanese were put into detention during world war ii.

as opposed to those on the east coast who should have feared germans coming■h othat is my co. host: reference nikki haley at a campaign event and manchester, new hampshire. she disputed claims that she alleges portraysincorrectly. [video clip] >> i have seen the commercials you have seen and watch the rallies that they show on tv. i have listened to the media and what they have to say. tantrums, donaldis through trump is telling a whole lot of lies.

but if he is going to lie about me i will tell the truth about him. [applause] he has said that i never wanted a border wall. ■d5uwhat i said is, i don't just want a border wall i want all of those other things then he turned around and said i wanted to take away people's social security. er once said that. what has he said? he said he wanted to the retirement age until 70. and he did this in 20 18, pred increase of $.25. everyone talks about the economy undedoit was good but at what c?

he put us 8 trillion dollars of debt. our kids will never forgive us for this. ask an accountant, you don't run up the credit card to have a good economy. that's no different than depleting our petroleum reserves to feel our gas prices. you don't do that. you make sure that you build up the economy. ■athis decision you are making n tuesday is the decision to decide do we want more of the same or did forward in a different direction? [applause] host: next up we will go to joseph in new york on the independent line. caller: good morning.

■fl■ffirst of all, i would likeo say why is it talking about host: we played a clip of that endorsement. caller: i49 opinion and i am an independentw york. all 29 electoral votes go to the democratic national committee. all 29 of them. that is been that way forever. my dad said my vote doesn't count but when it comes to the presidency and you are a york all of your votes go for the democrats. being an vote

doesn't really matter in the state of new york when it comes to the presidency. i am hopeful for tim scott. i am hopeful that donald trump take mate. i would not vote for trump but i would vote for tim scott. host: would you be in york doins do by electoral votes proportionately? caller: i would be open to that but were talking about the state of new it is been going on for over 40 years. host: next step we have jim and hardy, pennsylvania. caller: how is it going? my commonness about the southern border.

can't understand why there are no negotiations. when you leave your house you shut your door and lock it. i have nothing against immigration but legal. they say there have been an uptick with illegals with tuberculosis. they are not all asylum-seekers. we need to shut the border down. laws, like the dreamers. let's make them citizens but we need to shuthe less oppositely s on our democratic line. caller: the biggest story as the dow jones and s&p 500 have hit

all-time highs. thank you president biden. oil also hit an at h. we all remember the donald trump saidb]■k that the earlier saying that biden would crash the stock market and the first day in office he would drill baby drill. we already have 13.3 billion barrels. host: what's up is mike detroit, michigan. -- next up is mike in d.

caller: my biggest issue is voting. ehost: are you saying aren't people did not attack the capitol building of course the'. president trump one is to take overhe united states but that did not happen anymore than the bedwetting russian collusion. they knew they were false narratives in the used those false narratives. they used it t occupy with the military. mu■they used is to instigate mas

surveillance, massmassive show . xthey are still doing it. they can't win the election fairly and this is their tactic. do you know what the reichstag fire was about? host: i do know that there were thousands of people, many of them aren't attack the capital. caller: there were no maga extremists that attacked the capital. that has been proven over and over again. world. it did not happen. host: we will have to agree to disagree based on the video evidence.

roy and west virginia. -- lloyd in west virginia. caller: my subject is the deficit. the with bill clinton. i am not a democrat and i am not going toif they want to know whe money is going is to the government itself. they have too many people and you had a young lady on about a year ago and she worked for the government and she said only 20% of the people in the government do the work. f people there and we could get rid of half of them and never miss them. that is the big thing i think.

i think trump would help the country and he will get the deficit down. bill clinton was the last man in their who had any surplus. host: next step is rained out the democratic line. -- reyna on the democratic line. caller: i want to talk about trump at the iowa caucus. if i was in a place like that and heard that, i would've walked out. i want to say something about these people abortion.

a lot of these people say they don't want body to have any reason to get an abortion. if your wife or daughter or granddaughter and it was a life or death situation which you want to be in a state where they could not get one because us the law? i want them to think about that. host: next up we have larry on r t line. can you turn down the volume on your television? larry, can you hear us? we are going to have to go to the davecalifornia. caller: i was on before. 9#the science clearly show a

medical school all teach that life beginsilization of the eggs firm. e sperm. if the blood systems of the mother and baby makes there will be a rejection reaction. the reason we think it is part of the woman's i think you mader point earlier so we will ended there. we will get reaor segment, elections in taiwan are putting renewed strain on the already fraught relationship so we wil look with mercatus center researcher weifeng zhong and we will also

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to quickly and easily get an idea of what was debated and decided. scroll through few minutes on the points of interest. >> washington journal continues. host:we are joined by weifeng z, a senior research fellow at the mercatus center. thank you for coming out in the weather. so taiwan recently had a new election, can you explain the stakes, whoguest: the stakes ars very high because taiwan is a hot issue, increasingly so between the united states and china. the fact that it is remarkable that taiwan andwanese people have been choosing their leaders for decades now, more than 20 years. that is a remarkable achievement on the side of the taiwanese people. and also that becomes

problematic for beijing because being able to choose their leaders is not somethingthe chie rights to do. that is what creates a thorny issue between the two. host: who won theabout them. guest: the new president elect is from the same party as the current taiwanese president. and the party, the democce parte pro-independence, but less inclined to build a closer relationship with the mainland. that is the opposite of the dominant party who has been in power for decades after the world war. the second of -- the sentiments of the island is tipped away from the mainland and closero te talking about, there is a lot of

pressure from china -- from china and the taiwanese people to go in a different direction.. guest: china has an incentive to move the island closer to the mainland for the reason that if beijing feels the need to really force reunification, it will be easier to do that. and most of the people feel that about the mainland which is now why it is getting harder. what is most interesting is that even the fact of having an election in taiwan is not even covered in domestic media in china because of the fact that taiwan, the ccp k motivate or rationalize its rule of the country by saying that democracy does not work for the chinese people. it is working for the chise -- for people and they are very similar.

that makes this issue high-stakes and very interesting. host:k reaction of the united states and china to the outcome of the election? guest: the reaction from beijing haseen ne, they would say that taiwan belongs to china and the standard talking points. but more so to the outside world. the chinese authorities do not talk to the chinese people about elections in taiwan that much. ■q emphasize the fact that they have democracy in taiwan. the reaction is pretty much standard from the u.s.. id not see the american president calling up the president-elect of taiwan like we had eight years ago. but presidt bidedi that the unis does not support taiwan's independence which drew criticismgl and comments from -- in many ways. but, i think it is also unusual

for a u.s. president to deliberately have to say that we do not support the independence of taiwan. that might appear a little weak in■5 the interviews of many who support the taiwanese people's right to have an election and taiwan is pretty independent. host: it also might b confusing for americans who are not following the issue to hear that the united states is this pro-democracy president-elect but at the same time does not support taiwanese independence. can you explain in more detail what the u.s. policy is when it comes to taiwan? guest: that is a great question because the u.s. official policy towards■a a one china policy, which says that the united states recognizes that there is only one china across the taiwan strait. but the united states also recognizes that the

interpretation of one china is different between the two sides. say you guys figured out easily, as long as the status quo is capped, we areicitly saying it either way or supporting it either way. beijing has somethg larent. it is the one china principle that says that taiwan belongs to china, mainland china. and i think when u.s. leaders say -- and use the word one china policy, oftentimes it is confusing to the publics very me china principle that beijing wants to use. host: that is confusing. to your point about the united states wanting to maintain the status quo. antony blinken was at the world economic forum and ridley --ndet meant for u.s.-china relations.

here's a portion of the remarks. [end video clip] -- [video clip] >> in taiwan we see a powerful affirmation of democracy, something that we congratulated thpeand something that has been consistent now over many years. and that is the most important thing. but our fundamental2% interest d the fundamental interests of countries around the world is to make sure that peace and stability is maintained in the taiwan straight. any differences between beijing and taiwan are resolved peacefully. and hallmarks of success of the relationship between united states and china since the establishment of the united nations has been the management of the taiwan issue. and the premium that we have had -- and what we have had is maintaining the status quo. allowing people from taiwan to

know ever better lives and to be remarkable contributors to the global economy, which they are. but to maintain the status quo an take steps that would in any way disrupt it, especially when it comes to use of force. that is not only our position butition of country after country around the world. there is money -- one very great reason for it. 50% of commerce goes through that strif that were disrupted d affect the entire planet. that is the last thing weespecim covid. second, semi conductors and manufacturing capacity that taiwan has, that affects every person in thisand almost every person around the world -- around the room from the smartphone to the dishwasher to the automobile to everything else. so as small as it is, by its geography and extraordinary

ingenuity, taiwan plays an outsized role in the world. that is why so many countries have a stake in preserving peace ends debility. it is not just saying that to beijing, it is comfort -- it is country after country. everyone has the same interest. [end video clip] quite a few of the key ways that taiwan contributes to the global economy. can you talk a bit more about taiwan's■ role in the global economy and how that shapes the way that the u.s. participates in the debate? guest: taiwan has been much more importin glover dutch global commerce in the last 20 years. for the reason that taiwan has been doing well but also in particularly the high-tech sector. like the secretary mti of the si conductor industry because no matter what type of electronic

devices we are thinking chip ise most important, it is like the brain of a computer. no matter what device it is, the design is by u.s. companies and then it will be sent to taiwan and then put together by the taiwanese companies. and that piece, that little and e piece is sent back to the united states for assembly and it gets into our day-to-divand the problem with s because taiwan is such a leader s andnufacturing globally, it goes through taiwan, which makes commerce in the region so important. and the problem with that is if china ever attempts to retake taiwan, that would disrupt the

semi conctor industry. the ginning of covid when we had the semi conductor shorte. and tt multiply that by 10 times or maybe 100 times, which is why sustaining peace in the region is very important. we can debate about how to sustain peace. the u.s. approach has been to say we are not supporting either side and you guys figure it out. so k guessing has been the u.s. strategy. it is called strategic ambiguity. the problem isore ambitious in s of taking -- retaking taiwan and that puts a lot of pressure on ether the ambiguity strategy still works and i think it does not. if you have christ -- if you have questions for weifeng zhong, of us a call at for debit -- 202-748-8000 free democrats. republicans, 202-748-8001.

independents, 202-748-8002. if you want to text us, that is 202-748-8003. speaking of the world economic forum, china's premier spoke at davo's for the global and economic and politicaleaders and did not address the taiwanese elections but complained about unfair trade practices. can you explain some of the tensions between the■ u.s., european union and china, particularly in those areas of high-tech and clean energy? guest:dx what the chinese premir refers to as unfair trade practices are the sanctions particularly in the high-tech sector on china put together by the u.s. and its allies. but if you ask any trade officials, anybody in the u.s. or western countries they would complain about unfair trade practices that china has because

that has been the center of dispute ever china joined the wto. the problem here is that a lot of the tech sectors that we are talking about including the semi conductor are more oftentimes called dual use sectors meaning that the semi conductor chip uc used for innocent purposes like computers in cars, but they could also be used by the military sector in china. a lot of chinese companies are technically working for both. its own profit and then also the purpose of the state also8í -- often includes military ambitions. that concerns western countries and that is why■ countries like the u.s. have taken actions on sanctions. that prompted china to say that is unfair for us. of course that is because your host: speaking of that particular meeting, china had a very large delegation to davo's.

that especially compared to previous years? guest: it is actually ql when ar takes office in the chinese economy has been having problems. i see this initiatives like this as salesmanship where the chinese premier is basically like the ceo of the country. time he goes out he is seeking business and this is one of these occasion. e has gotten weaker. they stopped even publishing the rating in china for a few months. data and it is just as bad as it used to be. the problem is, i think the communist state put more pressure on the private sector in china. so the incarnate -- so the entire -- entire economy is

losing its dynamism like what we saw when china was relatively more free. host: ryan inindependent line. good morning. caller: hello. i was just wondering about the preparne capability or the united states forming a blockade and almost the style kennedy win missile crisis when it comes to protecting the interest of the area. also, having a policy in the u.s. that wld basically restrict china from stealing intellectual property and protectiasian regions. host: so preparedness for a military blockade and then protections for intellectual property, at are on the first og to blockade taiwan has been the primary plan has

when it comes to retaking taiwan. the problem there is that taiwan alone will never be able to defend against china. and it has to rely on help including from the united states and other allies in the region, japan, south korea and more. the problem is that helping taiwan defend itself is much than say uaine defend itself against russia because the island is hope -- is s so eo cross the strait. so i think the military task is very hard toh. which makes it evermore important to be able to deter ff that does not happen that is a bad case scenario for us. which is why secretary blinken

■treferenced strategic ambiguit. because that was our way to deter china before. it was enough to keep beijing guessing. i think now it is not enough to keep beijing guessing. and i think because c3na been more ambitious. the way to tip the balance is to signal more willingness on the u.s. part and western allies' parts to help taiwan more clearly to send the message out. i think it is not an act of rebalance and deterrence. host: what about the question on intellectual property? guest: the way to grow for china is to steal their way to the top. i think china has done well catching up to number two in the globalmy and a lot of technology sectors. i think it is a very hard balance to strive because often

times the intellectual property theft conducted by beijing or through legal means like business collaborations with american companies and then they figure things out. host: so business practices. guest: that is part of the unfair trade practices. it is hard to do given how intertwined the u.s. and chinese economies have been. host: a question from kevin, a republican from milton, delaware. "what historical claim guest: the civil war of china ended after the second war war, around 1948 or so when the incumbent party of the republic ofich is now in taiwan. they just left and route -- retreated back to the island. and so in the sense of the civil

war, it never really technically ended because the two regimes exist. what is the -- mainland regime and the other is the taiwanese regime. there was never closure. same for the taiwanese platforml because for a while they had the ambition to retake mainland china. beijing still claims taiwan. host: once again if you would like to ask a question with the u.s. relationship with tain or its ron the global economy. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans at 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. let us hear from mike in philadelphia, pennsylvania. on the democratic line. caller:the previous caller -- host: the previous caller on

military preparedness. i want to segue into regional alliances, especially south korea and japan. as u.s. power is extended around the world, what sort of relay stations --el taiwan reach out to the strong powers in stage -- in east a -- asia? and how would that change of they pursued that as a provocation. guest: i thinks is the strongest when united states works with its allies. for example if we think about ukraine and russian invasion, mn sanctions are implemented by not only the united states but also with allies.

the is wise to try and work with our allies to put more pressure onat is way better than me saying that taiwan has the right to be a democracy and china does not have the right to invade. the message is always stronger with allies. host: mike. philadelphia -- excuse me. let us go to mike, pdesorry. let us hear from jeffrey on our independent line. sorry about that. caller: it is not your fault. you just answer the phone. the -- host: do you have a question about taiwan? caller: yes. i do not know. i am worried about the united states. i served my country and who is

sitton waiting by austin -- he was sitting and wasting my oxygen in the white house. host: let us go toinnati, ohio. on the republican line. caller: thank you for taking my call. help me out here because i'm trying to understand. before taiwan it was called formosa. and attion when the group came across and took over formosa. those people what are you doing here, this is our island? expand on that bill for■0 the -- expand on that before world war ii, the nation of formosa, please? host: deeper into history. go ahead. guest: before world war ii, the island was called formosa in english. that is correcthe chinese regimd

war ii was not! republic of chie today. it was called the republic of china, which in terms of territory included no they lost the civil war with the communist party, so then the ld chinese regime retreated and concentrated only now to the main island of taiwan and a few of the smaller islands around it. but that did not end the regime of the republic of china. even today taiwan technically called the republic of china. it is just at the map of the republic of china only has the island of taiwan. ■xthe mainland china became the people's republic of china. host: jesse in florida on the republicin yes.

i have a question as to the policy that we have, the one china policy taiwan not being an independent country. it sounds to me that the policy says that taiwan is a part oand. i cannot understand how we have any business being on one side or the other for a civil war. i think the whole thing is about semi conductors. we need to build those in the united states. i do not understand what our policy is. can you explain to me what one china and what independent not independence means? host: it is confusing. guest: let's look back in time'e united states had a diplomatic relation with the republic of taiwan. we even had a defense treaty

with taiwan which said if the communist states try to retake taiwan, the united states had the obligation to defend taiwan. that is what led to the first crises because mao's a doubt abe united states was. he tried to bomb some of the small islands to just test how much stronger the u.s. commitment was. in the u.s. commitment at the ti■lme was strong that united states sent the uss midway which is now permanently at san diego. aircraft carrier wasn't surfaced -- in-service and went to defend the island. if we think strategic ambiguity and say that there is only one taiwan but we are not taking a side, that has been a remarkable change from having the treaty to

defend taiwan in the first place in the 50's. i try to the context of the change of u.s.-china relations. the united states for a l■6on ina. and the way to do that is to say let us move away from taiwan at least a little bit. that is thetext for what eventually led to the growth and global commerce and the growth in taiwan and china being such a big player in the global economy. host: where does that street -- does that treaty stand now? guest:■one. it recognizes the p.r.c., the mainland side. we are leaving upon to say we do business on -- in china. and taiwan figure it out but please keep the statusing is wig to do.

host: ted is in hawaii, democratic line. caller: good morning, i am glad that we are speaking on this issue. i am out here in hawaii in the void between u.s. and taiwan. it has always been baffling. but we do need to support taiwan. they have been a longtime friend. and they fly in the same waters that they fly in in terms of politically. and i think it is important that we kee■npand it is most importa. host: thank you for your comments. i want to actu about , so much of our attention is focused on the middle east. how do you think the two licts compare not only in national attention and national security importance, and also ukraine. guest: so many different conflicts.

we should keep our eyes straight on the biggest one which is china. i think china has become increasingly the most important threat in torrent -- in terms of national security to the united states because china has fundamentally deviated from the past that it used to be on what it joined the wto, which is to focus on the economyintegratinge western world. now it has fundamentally deviated. the ambition to dominate regionally at least and then potentially globally. that puts a lot of threats on the liberal international order. ve in in this world which is democracy and free speech and free commerce. china is trying to disrupt every single aspect. that is very important for the united states. and what it implies is that we shouot focus just on these

issues that we mentioned. i know we have ukraine and israel in e mile east, but on a brighter note, one good thing that we get out of doing these types of■h is to remind ourselves what it takes to be ready to respond to potentially any disruptions. ■ñit has been hard to support ukraine. think about it if -- on a much larger scale. i mean ready in every only militarily but strategically. host: also in social support. henry i deposit, and -- alabama. democratic line. that morning. caller: good morning. host: you can down the volume on your tv. caller: sure. host:ion? caller: i would like to make a

statement and ask if it isáñ tr, during the or -- early 40's, the was overrunning china, china was rescued by the united states. and then thests came in and 1948 and pushed the king off of the mainland into formosa, which is now known as taiwan? am i correct? host: yes. ok. thank you for that extra bit of history. let us go to phil. delmar, california. on the independent line. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. it is a grim que but one that i think is important.

especially for someone who is a scholar in the subject such as yourself. just, you believe at this point in america's history that taiwan is the most vulnerable that it has ever been in recentemory? current former policy position and leadership that, unfortunately,susceptible to anm the chinese government? guest: that is a great question. ow■y have talked a lot about the military side of things in cross straitk about the political side which is very long time taiwan and to a lesser extent hong kong, have been a problem for ccp because narrative and legitimacy matters a lot even in language of how the communist party frames the rule in the country. because for a long time they

have been telling the chinese people that the reason we have communist rule is because democracy does not work for us. and the communist party can lead to higher growth. and that has been pretty convincing in the 80's and 90's because china was growing fast. whoth taiwan and hong kong started to become a problem for beijing because if we look at taiwannot only a full democracy where people have been choosing their leaders for years, but the taiwanese economy is also one of the world leaders in many ways. and that basically busted the e argument that says democracy does not work for us. because everyone in mainland china can look to taiwan to see that it works. injustify the communist rule the

ccp is in its most vulnerable time. and we need tod that on top of the fact that president xi jinping has not had any big achievements domestically in terms of the econo that increases a lot the chance of china attempting to take back taiwan. host: leo lowell, arkansas on the democratic line. caller: good morning. i was interested not the war or political side. china gathers a lot of information from taiwan because of all the technical equipment that china is -- that taiwan is able toyou know, electronic stud all of the stuff that is patented. i think■ is 70% more interested in gathering information from countries like

-- and keeping their fingers sort of on the wire that goes under the oceans and learning about the million grains of gather iormation they do not seem to produce their own new ideas. taiwan seems to produce new ideas. thank you very much. i appreciate you. ■eguest: thank you. that is right. a key part of china's foreign poli ways is intelligence. china has done well and what is called the open source intelligence which means that by even just public information one can learn a lot about any other country. and that is what the chinese strategy has been on the united states. they have been using all of these ways, particularly all of this information on the inte regime. that has achieved a great deal

without a little attempt of spying or espionage. host: i guess we give up our own information for free. i want to ask you about your ■:wowhat it is and what it tells about the year ahead vis-a-vis china economically and geopolitically? guest: the policy change index project is exactly along the lines of open sourc■ñintelligent basically collects and analyzes in the form of natural language in chinese propaganda. we have been harvesting what is in print for people, which is the main domestic facing newspaper and then try to analyze what beijing is thinking and what it plans to do. a little bit over a year ago our

capabilities to -- detected a shift in terms of that turned oe preceding these as sending planes to taiwan or disrupting the sea routes. all of these aggressive actions that china takes towar t■ worlds to them leading up to it, even from the domestic press. that is what we did see over the course of the last few years, china being more aggressive towards the outside world because they ttle about the outside world. every time they talk about the western world, the language was very negative. host: folks who want to have a look at that can go to policy changeindex.org to look at his work on that. columbus, ohio. democratic line. caller: yes.

kii'it correct that taiwan called formosa was under the control of the japanese empire for 50 years prior to 1945, and what kind of economic relations does taiwan have with japan now? guest: it is true. japan invaded china including formosa during the second world war. which makes it very interesting now, seeing not only japan but also -- and taiwan coming but south korea coming closer. both south korea and china and taiwan were victims of japanese vanow all of these countries are coming together and recognizing that china is thoe bi like-mindd democracies and allies need to

work against the threat host: next up is amended -- is our caller from illinois. ■ñcaller: three quick questions for you. i notice china is buying up a lot of our national debt. what direction and percentage do they have and why are they buying so much of our debt? secondly, what you■@ina only lad states and buying more land? and we hear that the chinese are coming across the border, is at we have heard that china also has in several of our coastal states their own government. what are your feelings? host: let us hit those one by one. and what percentage of the national debt is being held by

china and what does that mean for the u.s. economy? guest: i do not see china holding debt in the u.s. as a problem because it represents that there are a lot of investment opportunities in the u.s. economy and other countries including china wanted to be a n because in the united states economy investment yields high returns more than mofor chinesel have more return in the u.s. economy than the chinese at the moment. that is not a problem per se. what is more problematic is chinese only -- owning agricultural land, especially those places close to military facilities. because very little is known about what was the intent and what they were doing in those properties near critical

facilities in the u.s.. host: that was one and two. number three was the news about chinese citizens crossing the southern border to the united states. i think there a lot of the foreign citizens crossing the border into the united states illegally. i will have to look the proportion whether those from china really is a significant threat among those from other south american or central american countries. border in general is an issue because it is not secure. i think one could advocate for a freer immigration system. but they have to come to the country illegally, they cannot just cross the border without any legal status. i think that has been a problem and that needs to be addressed in the u.s. and washington, not just because of those from china, but those froev the lastd get to would be michael in california.

democratic line. caller: good morning. mr. zhong, do you think that when putin took crimea in 2014 thatha emboldened xi jinping to say well i can take taiwan? and how close are jeezy paying, -- xi jinping, putin korean lea. guest: when putin took im not kn 2014 it really emboldened xi jinping time he was just coming into power in beijing. it was before he was able to consolidate power and carry out his own . he is watching now, and i am sure he is, how the war between

russia and ukraine is going. it's got to reduce the confidence somehow because putin is not doing well in his plan of invasion. we are nearly twye in and the war is in sort of an impasse where no and i think that puts a lot of pressure on how capable china really is because china really d not have any formal military conflicts since 1949, really. 7the chinese military is not really tested in that sense. host: thank you so much for your time. a senior research fellow at the mercatus center at george mason university. thank you very much. guest: thank you for having me. host: in will have a preview of the new hampshire primary with paul steinhauser who covers the granite state

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deal to prevent a government shutdown. on friday there was the march for life rally and the ongoing de÷0te u.s. and another big stoy that the house gop and hunter biden agreed on a deposition date andhe framework for that. let us go to your cal on the top new story of the week. dave in ohio on the republican line. go ahead dave. ■%caller: hello. i think you left one choice out of the top news stories of the week.and it should have been a p new story for three years. it is the incursion and invasion literally of the southern border of the united states with 6 million illegal immigrants. host: i am glad that you brought at we have a clip from speaker mike johnson speaking to reporters after the white house meeting onthe discur

the border as well as other things. [video clip] >> thank you for being here. we had productive meeting, i think, the house and centimeters -- leaders. the president was very forthright. and i have stole him what we are sayi, st have substantive policy change at the border. we documented 64 incidences where the president took his ags took action to create the current catastrophe that we have. it is a national security and humanitarian catastrophe. articulated that to him in the meeting. we understand there is concern about the safety and sovereignty of ukraine but the american people have the same concerns about our own domestic sovereignty and safety and security. we have talked about the necessary elem twe passed the bs critical elements. it is the rest of most -- the restoration of the end -- the

remain of mexico, the end of catch and release. we are not insistent on a particular name, but we are insisted that the elements have to be meaningful. the house is ready to act but the legislation has to solve the point.m and we understand the necessity about ukraine funding and we want to say that the status quo is unacceptable. we need the commander-in-chief the president of the united states to show strength on the world stage, not weakness. we cannot continue with the we understand the importance of what has been meted, but when i met with president zelenskyy before christmas he saidssary ie proper weapon systems. there are certain things needed to ensure that they can prevail. we need questions answered about the strategy and the end game and accountability for the precious treasure of the american people. we understand that these are

important, but we must insist that the border be the top priority. we will continue to press forward. i would like to thank my colleagues and the chairman for being here and i thank everyone for the time of day. [end video clip] host: next up is jim on the democratic line. what is your top new story of i would like to address the supreme court of the united states. and i would remind them that the oath of office that they is to defend the constitution against all enemies. looking at trump's■ past actions and his intentions for the future, if they cannot see that trump is a threat, they are tuin eye deliberately. his most recent assertion that

total immunity, even if he crosses the line, that is a big red flag. thank you. host: tha ynext up is ron in der colorado. caller: i wanted to mention the uvalde report. and the myth of the good guy with the gun saving the day. pw■c all of these police, state troopers, everyone was this six on -- this guy because he had an ar-15. these kids could hear the cops in the hallway for over an hour. hollered at a little girl and they got shot when they asked if there was somebody who was in the room. it is sad.

host:■j g thank you. here is an article from cnn referencing that report thatthed that the uvalde school massacre could have been stopped sooner. officers had many opportunities as the 2022 school massacre in uvalde texas was unfolding to reassess their flawed response that left 19 dead. the u.s. justice department concludes. a burst of gunfire reportshot aa desperate call could and should all have prompted a drive to stop the bloodshedq■ sooner the review says. instead it took 77 minutes from when the 18-year-old future walked into robb elementary school until he the carnage reme deadliest episodes in america's ongoing scourge of campus shootings."

next up is rick in new york on the democratic line. good morning. caller: good morning. you very much for having me. and thank you so much for this program. it is the voice nation, and the grateful for you -- they are grateful to you for it. host: thank you for calling in. caller: my issue and solution, rather, to the border issue is -- has been detailed recently -- recently by the president of ecuador. he recently declared war on the gangs and cartels in his country , asking for help from the u.s. and getting support for the you -- from the u.s. from what i understand. quickest way to solve our own borders solution and create our own borders solution. by preventing the gangs from utr

countries as their for business. if they get help from the u.s., it will beme solution. but, it will be a lot less than fighting other wars around the world. and frankly, if we do not help those people, they will continue to try and get into the u.s. and rch to the u.s.. i would and you would and everyone would bring their children to a place like the un states because we do have some semblance of unity and love here. they do not see any of that in their country. support, and i think the country would support helping presidents■7e president of ecuador to declare

war on the gangs that are destroying their countries and ing those families to run to the united states. thank you for letting me say my piece. host: thank you. i was trying to find the department of state because they have responded to that ongoing war between the ecuadorian government and the drug cartels by sending not only state department officials to try and investigate some of the retaliatory murders that have been going on as a result of that ongoing cic up, christine n on the republican line. caller: good you for taking my call. it is good to see your face this morning. i was calling about theight to

life thing that i heard a small part of yesterday. and speaker johnson was out therepa talking. and there was one gentleman, i do not remember who it was. he was talking about the lord, jesus christ being the creator and sustainer. and i just wish that this particular group would look at those children on the southern border that they are so worried about getting into our country and realize that they are like our children. they are children of god. and weeet that when we are trying to do these policies and take into consideration these precious babies. d also the ones in the middle east that are being so terribly abused. and thank you

god bless you. host: thank you. next up choctaw, oklahoma. on the democratic line. caller: yes. i wanted to bring up the issue of jim things that nikki haley said about america is not a racist country. en segregation was law in oklahoma. where everything was separate. black-and-white, water fountains, restrooms. you could not cross a certain boundary in oklahoma city. i mean, how can you say that america is not a racist country? i lived through it. my coworkers who i worked on the job that were democrats

they could not vote for a black guy so they all went republican. that is why you have this donald trump guy that was pushing this not an american.about here we have the same guy running for preside that most of our so-called democrats that have gone republican will share statements with republicans. obama became a nominee and most the people that i worked host: thank you, i appreciate your call. jim is in pioneer, ohio on our independent line. caller:thank you for c-span. top news story is about funding for israel.

i am not anti-semitic, but the people running the government in isas it is now, i wish joe biden would say, we are going to take half that $3.8 million and give ito gaza because we know you will not. if you go back, they are bombing the buildings on the while terrorists run in their holes. we are going to have to cut you some more. the last time i saw a u.s. was h w bush around 1990. he did not have to do anything. he just threatened to cut their. for a minute, they stopped building the settlement on the west bank. host: jim, do you think this issue is enough to change how you might vote in the upcoming presidential election? caller: i am unwavering. i have been a big supporter of

joe biden, even though i am an independent. i feel i am partially responsible. ■áevery president since h w bush has supported the -- it has been going on my whole life. ihost: next is jerry in new jersey on our democratic line. caller: good morning. one of the comments i have is the comments that haley made during her campaigning in new hampshire. i think it terribly. that is one of my stories. the other is fani willis, the story in georgia. nobody is talking about that today. i think that oi too. boy, how it has turned around on her. coming afterthe one that is goie criminal, really.

host: can i pause you for a moment? do not hang up. i want to update folks who maybe are not familiarry. here is an article in the washington post about it. basically, the georgia prosecutor in the trump case paid for flights with fani willis filing shows. this is the ongoing conflict period the lead prosecutor in the interference case against donald trump parried for at least two airline tickets -- paid for at least two airline tickets while the investigation was underway, according to bank statements filed in statements y cooperate and prosecutor nathan aged in improper, personal relationships. the statements were part of a filing by lawyers for wade's

wife in an effort to compel willis to testify in the divorce proceeding, which he district attorney avoid in a separate filing on thursday. it has been mentioned elsewhere that neither wade nor have directly addressed the allegations. a spokesman for willis said any response of court filings ll happen in court. we do not know what the purpose of it was. attorneys for willis and jocelyn wade did not respect -- respond for request to comment. . this is the story that you are referencing. caller: part of the story is the fact that she hired three prosecutors. i think one made $68,000, the other made $70,000 and she paid this g $650,000 to prosecute trump. this is going to be a major problem, too. the other thing is, i do not know how it is going to affect the trial.

i understand she is the prosecutor, went to the white house three times. there is some coordination there. anyway, that is one of my situations. i think it is a big story. i think it is going to become bigger. i think it is going to prove trump, you know, comments that he is definitely being prosecutednd persecuted. this do not help. thank you. host: next is blake inppi on out line. go ahead, blake. caller: i want to say one thing. i love this country, i served this country. one thing i did not■ like nikki haley said, a lot of americans view this as a copout. everybody cares about their own tribe. that is the reason why if you are not with reparations for african americans, something is wrong with you. you are a racist because this country has gave billions of ac to europeans, have not

given black people an inch. ■fnding drugs into our neighborhoods, when people come into this country illegally, they take jobs from us first. they want african-americans to be the bottom of the barrel. got to pay for education? why don't we have free education? that is because they want the americans only worry about their own family and own race. america was in spearman to see if people could live together -- was an experiment see people could live together. it is all on the backs of african-americans. host: thank you, blake. next is tim in west virginia on our republican line. good morning, tim. quite get to me yet. let me give it another try. tim, can you hear us now? i was wanting to discuss

about the abortion situation. host: ok. caller: women's get their body, their right. illness, they do not have the right to have a doctor in their life. they can consider it their job, the kid could be the o to discover the cure for cancer and other diseases. get his girl pregnant going into having an abortion, he is charged with two murders. it does not make sense. host: ok. thank you, tim. next is bobn wisconsin on the republican line. go ahead, bob. caller: probably, the economy is still the number-e tostif you rk obama took office, it was $9

trillion in debt. msnow, we are $34 trillion in debt. that is 25 trillion dollars. the country spent $4 trillion on covid with trump and $2that put6 trillion for democrats and $4 debt. somebody, please answer me that question. where do we spend all of that money? $16 trillion sie obama from the democrats. $4 trillion from republicans. that is the facts. host: are you■an covid funding h the trump and biden administrations as democrat or republican spending? caller: that was american spending. that is why i excluded it from the grand tally. there was $4000 from trump, bipartisan, the entire country needed it. there was $2 trillion from

biden. the country needed it. that was bipartisan. thatid. that left over $16 trillion from the democrats and $4 trillion from the republicans. ok. speaking of the economy, there were new consumer sentiment numbers out this week. here in the washington post on , americans are feeling sunnier on the economy, that optimism is up again in ther poll, that consumer sentiment, a window into the nation's financial mood dump -- jumped 13% in january to its highest levels since that inflation is easing. according to the survey -- since november, consumer sentiment has risen parking the largest two month increase in more than early years. gas prices often a key dve falle june 2022 just over three

dollars a gallon. weekly jobless claims are at consumers felt confident enough to keep spending. if to the wall street journal, who also covers this issue, it says these numbers are a shop -- sharp turn after the pandemic's destruction and fears a recession was around the warner have put a damper on feelings about the economy irec. despite solid growth and consistent hiring, now, americans are bucking up as inflation cools on the federal reserve signals that interest rate increases are likely behind us. let's go to more of your calls. leonard is invirginia on our democratic line. go ahead, leonard. caller: yes, ma'am. only one block guide that work -- [indiscernible]

we went to shut down for%2r vacation and he was working on the line with contractors that came in. host: what is your top news story of the week? i missed icaller: it was about . host: oh, nikki haley's comments. caller: yes,n the line. he was on this latter. at the bottom of the ladder, there was a box. he openedh the box up. the guy had kkk in it. [indiscernible] you can either close the box top . or, you can quit. ok. at the end of the day, -- host: so, you are saying there united states.of racism to this caller: still, there is no black

people in this plant. just the maintenance. host: ok, thank you for that story. next is darrell in shepherdsville, kentucky on our republican line. go ahead. caller: good morning. st heard that last call right there. people- of living is high. the gas prices are high. people are coming across the joe biden knows what is going on. people say gas prices might be low. wrong. they are as high as they ever were for anybody. if we had president trump right no■'in oice, none of these things would've happened. people got to look at what is going on here in the united states. we are losing jobs.

cost of living is high. or houses or anything. we have got murder happening in new york city. they come across the border. the problem is going to get worse. it is getting worse. host: next is oliver in california on the democratic line. go ahead, oliver. caller: hi, thanks for taking my call. or c-span. you know, there was previous callers talking about all the false narratives. i was listening to tim scott endorsed trump. it was absolutely embarrassing. ■ how trump will bring the country together. i just do not see how anybody can believe that. you trump -- talk about false narratives. trump is saying mexico was going to pay for the wall.

all his stories. all of his bankruptcies and corruption and trials. i mean, i j think -- the economy has crashed under republicans, both4u 9/11, republican administrations, iraq and afghanistan got started under republican admits rations. i think the republicans are a disaster every time they get elected. the only person i see who is not peddling false notice -- false narratives is bernie sanders. as americans, we should stop bickeringboissues, divisive isse should get together and get better health care and and affordable housing and all of the things we agree on, instead of just going after each

other. that is all i have to say. oliver. next is ethel in louisiana on our democratic line. go ahead, ethel. caller: good morning, i have three points i would like to make. host: ok. caller: first, what would be the pro-abortion let everyone, women and girls, make their decisions with their family and their religious beeftwo, i haveh washington journal. hello? host: yes, we can hear you. caller:complaint with "washingtn journal." i noticed there was a difference when jen psaki was the press secretary and you were airing her briefings and when karine jean-pierre, her position as the press secretary. i am not getting any airing from her.

so, is there partiality between the two press secretaries? host: you will be able to find those briefings on c-span.org. but, go ahead. caller: ok, well. i watch it on my local directv. i have to pull it up on my internet. number three would be when trump said he could shoot anyone on fifth avenue and people would still follow him, -- people are following him in spite of all of the things he has said proven. of the things h i would say that you all, pay attention to trump's supporters. have a great day. thank you. host: thank you f the other cols all the time we have for those for now. coming up, the new hampshire primary is just days away. ■&after the break, we are goingo head to the manchester, new hampshire for a preview with paul steinhauser who covers

politics for fox news and the concorde monitor. first, we spoke with new hampshire secretary of state david scanlon about candidates filing to run for pr in the states primary. here is some of that interview. [video clip] >> when we see the video of the candidates coming in, signing up to be in the new hampshire primary, giving you $1000 for that honor, where do they do it? >> they do it right here. it is such a privilege to be the person that they come to meet when they come in. you get a true sense of whahere. get a sense of their personality. they come into this room and desk, at one time was owned by representative stephen bullock, who back 1913 wrote the presidential primary law for the state of new hampshire that we should hold a primary.

think, would be shocked today if you knew that he actually created a tradition that withstood a century of time. anyway, we have this roll top desk that we bring in here. the candidates stand at that desk and signed the paperwork. they hand over their $1000 filing fee. if it is a major candidate, typically, this whole room is media. it is a very, very exciting place to be. >> thisnom. how many people can you get in here? >> i think we break records every four years. [laughter] 50 people, maybe? >> do they have to file in person/ m>>■ they do not have to file in person. they can mail in or have somebody else dropheir filing. however, if they wait until the last day of the filing period, if we have not received their filing papers then, they must

show up in do. >> almost all of them come here because it is just a greathey hy have a chance to address the nation after they file their the inter-office where we have a conference table set up and the new hampshire reporters sit around that tabld candidate sitd the new hampshire reporters get to ask questions that are of interest to the voters of new hampshire. onal media are in the room, can also ask questions. >> "washington journal" continues. st: welcome back. we are joined by paul steinhauser, a national political reporter for fox news and a political reporter for the concorde monitor. he is joining us from new hampshire. welcome to the program. guest: great to join you.

it is in the■g here. a frosty morning in new hampshire. host: but an improvement from when you were in iowa last week. guest: very much so. am used to the winter living up here, but it was extra cold in iowa. host: let's talk about new hampshire. role historically does new hampshire primary play in presidential politics? guest: a very important one. with iowa, it is a 12 punch. the job of iowa and new hampshire is to win the field, maybe not dictate the nominees for the parties but to win the field. we saw iowa do tt. a couple of candidates dropping out before and after the weasels came in, maybe new hampshire will do that, as well. ■lit has been a traditional role in both leadoff contests. host: the historical role is different from this year, though. guest: there is a little controversy this year. the republicans, they have kept everything the same. isla first, new hampshire second.

up their calendar. it was almost a year ago that the democratic national committee voted to change things, to up in the traditional calendar after a suggestion i president biden. they moved new hampshire off, away from its traditional role of leading off primary, always going after iowa, which is a caucus. that was controversial. they put south carolina first. democrats up did not like that. we have a state law in no hampshire -- new hampshire that says, we hold theirst primary and we have stuck with that law. that is why new hampshire is having a democratic primary on tuesday, as well as the public democratic side, it is out of whack, unsanctioned because it is in violation of the democratic national committees calendar. president biden, because the democratic national committee did not think in this primary,

he will not be on the ballot here. there is a right in campaign on his behalf, but he will not be on the ballot. the two longshot candidates challenging the president, marianne williamson and democratic rep -- of minnesota are campaigning. host: speaking of right in, in addition to the campaign to encourage joe biden as a write in candidate, i have read there is a campaign for people to write ineaire as a protest of what is going on in israel and gaza. guest: that came about in recent weeks, as well. as youw, there is very much a divide among democrats over the situation right now, the fighting between israel and hamas in gaza. roversial sticking point for democrats. this is a form of protest. host: let's talk about the gop race. gop candidates stand in new hampshire right now? guest: that is where most of the action is, that is where most of the votes will happen on the

republican side. you saw the results in iowa. very low turnout, only 110,000. the coldink another reason was t of republicans felt warmer president trump would dominate and he did do that in iowa. won 98 out counties. he comes to new hampshire with a lot of momentum and as the favorite. the farite in this contest. the polls indicate that former ambassador to the united nations and former south carolina governor nikki haley is in second place, anywhere from 16 points behind trump and a distant third place ron desantis, the florida governor who came in second in iowa not much of a factor here. those are the three candidates left in this race over to the c side, earlier this week, 2024 democratic presidential candidate and minnesota

representative dean phillips spoke to voters in manchester and criticized the nations two-party system and calls for more competitive primaries. ■$ are some of his comments. [video clip] >> this two-party system is actually very threat to the country that george washington warned us about so long ago in his farewell address. if george washington warned us about that, should we not take a moment and are flat on how press and that w■he recognized, he cam factions -- which by the way, did not exist when he was president. ■che said factions would underme this democracy when people became so focused on beating each other that they lose focus on trying to win for this country. he is right. i only joined congress after 2016 election and i found my daughter and peers in her bedroom. lymphoma, she is a gay woman. i did not know that at the time. i sat at my table that morning

and i promised my daughters i would do something. i ran for congress. little did i know how bad it was. how offensively divisoffensivelh leaders on both sides of the aisle have been for generations. this is sickeningly broken. yes, we need competition. i am a proud democrat telling all of you we need think both ps need competition. they do not want it. they want to protect a duopoly that destructive to this democracy. there is nothing more than allowing two political parties es from seizing this country from all of us. who are these people? who are these people behind that curtain pulling these levers? who are they? n america we do not know who they are? i have been running as a democrat because i intend to

transparency and integrity to a party in which i deeply believe that has done this country a great service over the last number of decades but clearly the gop has. host: how well is that message resonating in new hampshire? guest:v)=r you get a little tasf the dean phillips stump speech. you can tell he is running as an outsider. critical of both party structures. it is resonating along some democrats. of democrats overall in new hampshire, our support of bident want to see donald trump back in the white house but they are also frustrated with the president. and the partyirst in the nation status in the democratic calendar. his message is resonating. he is getting some crowds. take the polls, he can be anywhere from single digits to the upper teens or over 20%. we will find out on tuesday mesn

received in new hampshire, but from the looks of it, there are supporting him. host: we will be taking your calls for paul coming up in a bit. our numbers for democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. ■independents, (202) 748-8002. if you are in new hampshire and he would like to join the show, that number four you is (2) 74. for folks in new hampshire. speaking of that, paul, how do new hampshire voters differ■-dkm voters in iowa caucus in terms of ideology and what motivates them to vote? guest: i used tostate -- iowa ua purple state. it has become much more conservative. republicans have done very well at the ballot boxnew hampshire a dozen through battleground states.

an governor, a legislature that is majority republicans and the executive council also controlled by their publicans. our congressional delegation is entirely democrats. we are very much a battleground state. call it what you will. we a state where independent voters, we call undeclared voters up here, they are influential in our president to primary. they make up about 40% of the electorate. on primary day tuesday, we can vote either the democrat or republican primary. we can the polling station, register and get a republican ticket card or democrat card, cast our ballots and go back and reregister as an independent. yes, moderate voters and independent voters in new hampshire are very influential and will probably once again primary and especially on the republican side where nikki haley is counting on that independent vote and moderates for her support against trump, ■%who has the backing of the moe

conservative voters in the state. host: just to back up those points you were making, we have got a chart of the new hampshire voter registration and how that breaks down. you have got about 268,000 republicans, 31% of the electorate. 262,000 democrats, 30%, but unaffiliated voters you were just]■alking about, 343,000, 39%. more of them than anybody else. why is that the case in new hampshire, compared to other states that evenly split or lean heavily one way or another? guest: we have seen over the years that the rise in independent voters with a lot of voters no longer declaring themselves democrats or republicans, it is more pronounced in new hampshire. i thinfair to say. the election year is fiercely independent. we have a motto of live free or

die. they are known as late deciders. the polls say one thing, but a lot of people go into that ballot boxdecision in the last f hours before the vote. our secretary of state dave scanlon addicting the other day we hundred 22,000 people would vote in the republican primary and predicting 88 house and in the democratic primary. we will see if those numbers can out. regardless, that would be a lot larger than the caucuses in iowa. host: so money people are watching how nkiorms in this ran particular. new hampshire governor chris sununu is supporting her. how much of a difference will it make? guest: it has already helped. when he endorsed her five weeks ago in new hampshire, it gave her an instant boost in the polls. with donald -- he closed the gap with donald trump.

advisor, mapping out where she stops on the campaign trail. yesterday, the first of seven or eight stops was in the general store to my home in newfield where he lives, as well. retail politics is a very, very important part of new hampshire politics, has long been a major part of the primary. sue knew new is emphasizing that -- sununu is emphasizing that with haley. it has been a traditional part they are emphasizing that in their final days. host: let's getgo ahead, mike. caller: yeah, good morning, paul. thank you for being on and stay warm. i just want some specifics. can you tell me of the democrats, they are listed on

the ballot. dean phillips, -- is cornell west on the ballot? thankou. guest: they are not on the ballot, west and stein -- west is now an independent candidate and stein is running on the green party. this is a democratic primary. they will come into play in the general election, but this is a prar so they will not be on the democratic primary ballot. dean williams will be, marion williams will be. whose name will not be on the democratic pallet? president biden. he did not register up here. as we talked about. there is a big write in campaign that top democrats in the state are supporting to try to help hiwhthe last thing they want, en though this is an unsanctioned primary, the last thing a lot of democrats one is for biden to ■(suffer embarrassment here.

i spoke to phillips yesterday, he thinks he can surprise and do well here. i think he is looking to finish in the double digits. he feels that will give him enough juice to march on. he will not be in the nevada primary. the next thing up for the democrats willolina. joe biden will be on the ballot in south carolina. landslide victory in south, his carolina after getting punished in iowa. biden came in fifth in new hampshire, but rebounded with a second-place finish in the bata that huge landslide victory in south carolina that boosted him to the nomination and eventually, the white house. host:$÷ one of the other argumes the democrats make for south carolina being the first primary is the demographics. if we look at the demographics of new hampshire, it is 89% white and home to the minorities. we have a chart here. almost 89% white, under 5% hispanic and latino, 2%

african-american. 3.2% asian. the argument being with south carolina being 69% white, 26 percent black, south carolina being more representative especially in a democratic primary. at this has been an argument for quite some time in the democratic primary process. iowa and new hampshire -- this has been g cycles. the democratic party over the last generation or two has become much more diverse. er a lot of pushback, two caucasian states in iowa and new hampshire, they also do not have large urban areas, going first. new hampshire, keeping to its guns and holding to its state unsanctioned primary on the democratic side. this has been a fight going on for a long time. iowa and new hampshire kept winning the until this cycle when president biden came

up with this new calendar that puts south carolina first. host: daniel in illinois on our independent line. go ahead, daniel. caller: good morning. what i want to know is, how is donald trump a victor wh only 15% of registered republicans showed up in iowa? because this affects new hampshire as all, as far as republicans showing up to the polls for this primary. this is not ap. host: what do you think about that, paul? guest: you know, let's. yes, 110,000 people took part in the iowa republican presidential caucuses. that was down from 186,000 last time they had a contested contest in 2016 when ted cruz narrowly defeated donald trumd r first place. you are looking at a dramatic

drop in the number of participants in iowa. it was a low turnout. why was it low? two reasons. it was freezing. i am a new hampshire guy. i am used to winter. it was subpar take -- subarctic. he blizzard slammed in iowa to three days ago before the caucuses. the idea donald trump was going to win these caucuses big time, that helped depress the boat. nikki haley aonantis have been pointing this out nonstop ends monday that this was not a victory for donald trump and should be a troubling sign that only adm number of republicans came out to vote and he only won as the incumbent, even though he is not. he isnsidered the incumbent in this primary battle that he only won about 50% of the vote. results in iowa and calling it a major victory.

haley and santos see it a different way -- desantis way. host: bonnie on our independent line. caller: this whole week reminds me of a quote from winston churchill. by the time an american gets to be president, he is no longer qualified. i look at the arena of politicians who criticize trump for his obvious lies, criminal behaviors, cheating on his wife, hibusisses, his taxes, his american people. yet, now they are jumping on his bandwagon so that they can perhaps pursue or further their own careers. picture in mind, tim scott. a registered nurse, i find it very disconcerting that we have two very senior citizens who ar,

presumably. these are the men that get up five times a night to pee . host: ok. i wonder how the age argument is landing in new hampshire. guest: rest of the country. there has been poll after poll that indicate most americans are not veryll with a trump-biden rematch in the general election in 2024. age is a big part of that. we have joe biden, the oldest president in u.s. history, donald trump, only a few years younger than him. it is a major, major factor for americans, if you believe polling, are not looking forward to seeing these two gentlemen as the majorin november. host: someone we haven't chatted about yet is ron desantis. he is at a campaign event in new hampshire yesterday, criticizing both of his top rivals for their

record and their unwillingness to debate ahead of the states primary. t's listen to him for a bit. [video clip] >> i think that the choice on tuesday is simple. donald trump is running for his issues. nikki haley is running for the donors issues. i am running for your issues and your families issues and solely to turn this country ar. i am the only one running that has a record of delivering on 100% of my promises. donald trump ran on a lot of things in 2016. i was at the rally. the wall, have mexico pay for it. did not deliver. drain the swamp, did not deliver. ■bhold hillary accountable, did not deliver. on and on it does, there were promises made but there was not the follow-through. nikki haley, it is interesting. i was in south carolina the other day. i had 1000 people rally. i said, south carolina and, what d accomplish as governor that was a major achievement? can you tell me?

not a single person raise their hand with anything that she achieved. spoke to 1000 republicans in florida and you ask them what i achieved as governor, you would have■) shooting up. being in any elected office is not just being a potted plant. it is leading and delivering results. i am sick ofbeing about entertainment and all of this other stuff. deliver results for the people. that is all you are judged on is articulating that vision in bringing it to fruition. ■git is sad, if you look at what is going on in new hampshire -- in iowa, we didn't do one, these othertes are running basement campaigns. they will stick their head out every now and then. they will not debate. bate last night.

i signed up to do it, no one else would do it. hq had another when offered on cnn on sunday. i accepted it, no one else accepted it. why not? your record and articulate your vision? i am proud of my record. i am proud of our vision for america. i would take any opportunity to do that. they are not doing it. i think it is something that should concern republican voters. host: back with paul steinhauser . how is ron desantis doing in new hampshire? what are the stakes in this race for him? guest: if you believe the polling here, he is not doing well. he is a distant third in new hampshire in the single digits where haleys about 15 points behind donald trump as they battle for first place. it does not appear to be much of a factor here. haley told me eron desantis wasn new hampshire. she has been framing this as a

two-person race in new hampshire. she came in third in iowa, but speech monday night in des moines after the caucuses looking ahead to new hampshire and south carolina, she started tora race, rightfully or wrongfully, as a two-person race between her and the former president. desantis, new hampshire, but he. he is either resigned to the fact they are not going to perform so well. where is he this weekend? not here. he was in new hampshire friday campaigning era today and tomorrow, he will be in south carolina. they hold their contest on february0 state to hold a republican contest. nevada has a caucus and primary, but it is convoluted. early february. desantis taking shots at both haley and trump for the lack of debates here, that has been a donald trump has not done any debates. he has skipped all of them,

dating back to august. there were two different debatee the other day and one for tomorrow night. neither are happening because desantius was the only one -- desantis was the only one who said yes. the stage if trump would, which he is not doing. host: next up we have gary in kentucky on our republican mind. go ahead, gary. caller: good morning. host: good morning. i do not take much stock in primaries, because 2016, bernie sanders won in iowa and the democratic party would not acknowledge it or announce it. i am concerned about a candidate that does not put his name on the ballot and a candidate that

does not show up for debates. i tell you, desantis thing, one thing nikki haley has done is representatives internationally. we have crisis everywhere internationally right now. host: do you have a response to that? guest: haley is touting her■0e not only as south carolina governor where she served two terms but her time as u.s. ambassador to the united nations. she difference with desantis and trump when it comes to a number of overseas issues, think ukraine, think israel. she advocates a much more muscular u.s. approach overseas, something that was predominant in the republican until the trump era. that has changed things, trump having a much centric foreign-policy policy and national security strategy.

there are definitely policy differences and haley seems to be on one side with trump and desantis slightly on the other side. so much of these races for the white primary battles are about personality and the candidates themselves. policy is also a very important does not get a ton of attention in the media. when you hear the questions from voters, most of the time, it is not about the stuff you hear on tv, it is about policy. host: speaking of this issue, the caller was referencing bernie sanders. if you go back, we have a chart of the past new hampshire primary winners since 2000. bernie sanders and donald trump won in 2020. 2012, barack obama and mitt romney. a mixed record of picking winners and losers going back as far as 2008. hillary clinton and john mccain. al gore and john mccain in 2000.

i wonder what you think of new hampshire's record in terms of picking winners? guest: again, we talked about this rht off t■jhe bat, kimberly. i think people in new hampshire and iowa will say it is not their job to pick the nominee, it is their job to narrow the field. so many times, throughout this cycle we have seen a dress of candidates. these past cycles, we have come into iowa and hampshire with a ton of candidates on both sides and those fields shrink dramatically after iowa and new hampshire. they move on to south.1 carolin, nevada and the super tuesday contest in march. the idea is to shrink the field, not pick the winner. bernie sanders andcompetition. he destroyed hillary clinton new hampshire. she did rebound, but they battled until the summer for that nomination. that was quite a historic matchup between the two. four years later in 2020, it was

a very slight victory for sanders over pete buttigieg, the former mayor of fort wayne, indiana at that time, now the transportation secretary we remember that joe biden came in fifth in iowa -- foth hampshe before that major landslide in south carolina. that was another reason i think democrats, besides diversity, but a lot o to 2020 and say, why should new hampshire and iowa go first because they did not get it right when itame bid? host: folks in new hampshire, if you would like to call in, that special line for you is (202) 748-8003. first, let's go to peoria, illinois on our democratic line. good morning. caller: good morning. i have a question. i am a little hazy on this. i do not know if it is policy,

but the incumbent. why incumbent have any more challengers, or is that a !policy or just courtesy from te other politicians that might one to run but could not run? host: go ahead, paul. guest: we have seen in history -- it is very tough to beat an incumbent president running for a second term. there have been times where that incumbent has faced some tough challenges. let's go back to 1980, democratic president jimmy carter. there were tough times in the country. i was a younger person back then, but i remember those days. he had a fierce primary challengerom then senator ted kennedy of massachusetts, george herbert walker bush in 1992 runningpat buchanan gave him a r

their money. we havse this -- the last two cycles, donald trump did get primary challenged in 2020 on the were public inside. formersachusetts governor william wells won 7% of the vote in new hampshire, but trump was the overall choat renomination. here we are four years later and biden is--you look at the polling and biden is the clear favorite to win renomination but is facing primary challenges. dean phillips, the congressman from maryland -- from williamsoe the top two candidates. host: ro khanna is speaking at a new hampshirhoe party for biden, theeection drive there. he is going to discs e president's right in campaign for4 w hampshire democratic primary. wereoing to be carrying tt

live today at c-span at 4:00 p.m. eastern. its going to be on c-span now, r free mobile video app or online at c-span.org. let's go now to -- guest: kimberly. host: go ahead. guest: it is interesting you brought up ro khanna. he has been here in support of president biden and that has got people thinking, maybe in 2028, he has got a pause for a nationalro khanna is a one of fr five known democratic politicians that are in the state this what he is doing, part of this right in process trying to get democrats to the polls on tuesday to write in joe biden's name. interesting to see what is going on right now. host: michelle in birmingham, alabama on our republican line. go ahead, michelle. we have lost michelle. let's go to jennifer, who is in new hampshire and is an independent.

go ahead, jennifer. caller: i just wanted to make a statement and may be question, also. the statement is, i do not like that our states we change parties for the primaries. i do not like that. i was wondering why we do that. i do not tnkif it is a fair fige stacey abrams always said, i think we need to stay with our party and not do it because it is not there. the other question is, why would biden change to south carolina? i think that is disrespectful to our thank you and have a blessed day. host: go ahead, paul. guest: we will start with the latter. whatou heard from that caller just now is what a lot of democrats, independents and republicans are saying in new hampshire. are angry with president biden and democrats taking away and stripping this cherished first in the nation status.

been at the top of the calendar. republicans made no changes. new hampshire is still going first, following our state law. there is a lot of is it meant at what the democrats are doing and that will come into play. here allows a democrat orthe republican to change their voter registration, but you have to do it by mid-october. the deadline is over. about 4000 democrats according to figures from the secretary of state's office did change their registration from democrat to undeclared or independent. now, those voters can vote in either the democrat or tuesday. there is a process to allow for that. donald trump has been saying in recent days and events appear nterviews that democrats can vote in the republic and primary. that deadline has passed. only■b independents and

republicans can vote in that republican primary. host: next is arizona on our independent line. go ahead. caller: yes, i am concerned about people discussing nikki haley as a moderate. she is a warmonger. she is interested in war with iran, with russia, with china. moderate seems unbelievable to me. so, i do not understand that. host: paul, is she considered a moderate by new hampshire voters? guest: let's talk aboutthe other candidates are saying first, then we can get to that. donald trump and ron desantis have been criticizing haley, questioning her conservative agenda and record. they are painting themselves as much more conservative and her as more of a moderate.

we were talking about foreign policy and national security, which is what this caller was referencing. on that, she skews to the more traditional, conservative, strong overseas involvement by the united states, which was the republican's policy for decades until donald trump and reshaped this party over the last two election cycles. you have seen some differences here. i will say this about new hampshire voters, there is a high percentage of veterans in this state. overseas matters, military matters, forsecurity top issuesw hampshire voters, especially when it comes to the republican primary. host: our democratic line. caller: good morning. look, i think -- i heard you say that new hampshire head polls, joe biden is winning. did i hear you say that? host: i do not think so, but, go

ahead. go ahead, paul. guest: we did not talk about the general election polls up here in new hampshire. a couple of new ones came out the last couple of days. they indicate biden is ahead of of desantis. the latest one i saw indicates haley would be edging biden in the date. this is traditionally a battleground state. in 2020, biden won by seven points over donald trump. host: what is your question, terrel? caller: my question is, have you ever heard of david stockman? author that wrote the book, trump's war on capitalism? host: regardless, what is the question or paul? caller: the question is, donald trump it's out of there and he lies about everything.

you know, just le he was saying he was lying about the democrats voting in the republican campaign. i why people let him get away with stuff. in reference to this book, trump's war on capitalism, it is telling everything he lied about and this guy david stockman is saying donald trump was the worst president ever. the republicans, they do not want to hear anything. they do not want to see anything. they do not want to hear anything bad about donald trump. host: let's see if we can get another -- a couple moree questions for paul before we have to let him go. brian in the independent line. caller comment is really about how the press generally is reporting the results on the primary for trump, typically the

way i believe they would in a primary for biden based on how they talk about polling for biden. that being, we just had results. donald trump only garnered 50% of the vote. he is the incumbent president of the republican party. everybody said he has had -- along comes a■,mary, he garners only 50%. there are lots of reports saying he won by a had a 20% lead or 30% lead over desantis and nikki haley. but, he actually only host: did you have a question for paul? we only have a couple of minutes left. caller: only 50% of t p voted. he did not win. that is a terrible loss. people should be reporting that. host: thanks, brian.

let's go to chdent line. do you have a question for paul? caller: good morning. iwhere i work, there is 93 workers. 56 of us are married or living with somebody. we have our own polling box so no one knows how somebody voted. come to find out, we are democrat, republican and independents. we, come to find out again, nobody here wants to vote for the republicans. even the republicans do not. democrats will vote for biden. independents are talking about what we found owill vote for biden. nobody, the republicans people said that if trump is on any th, paul? guest: that is an interesting

there are plenty of people who do not want to see donald trump returned to the white house. that is crystal clear. not just democrats. at the same time, donald trump still has a lot of support in the republican party. people say that the party is still firmly under his grip. host we are going to get in one more quick call from patrick in new hampshire who is a republican. go ahead, patrick. turn down your volumonon. yep. i will take it easy on you. how annoying is that ear piece you have? host: [laughter] guest: [laughter] it keeps falling out, but that is ok. i appreciate the concern. host: all right, where there any other questions about the election before we let you go? caller: yeah, i am a republican. i am going to vote for trump. i hope that everybody, if you have a family that you are working your butt off for, like me and■y if you have

fallen behind the last three years, hope lee in november, we can change all of that. hopefully,w you are on board wih us, john. hopefully, we can get back to some normalcy and someone that is not cognitively declining. that would be thanks, patrick. any final thoughts from you, paul, before we let you go? guest: you heard that,the formee history last year, first former president to be indicted. not just once, fourin two caseso overthrow the 2020 election results. in a way, that has only made stronger and more popular with a lot of people in the base of the republican party. we saw that play out in iowa. it was a landslide factory -- victory, but a low turnout. new hampshire is going to be interesting. will donald trump's ride continue to the nomination or

will he face a major speedbump in face a major speedbump with maybe nikki haley giving him a run for the money? we will find out tuesday night. a big win by don trump and the nomination process may be over quickly. if he doesn't and we get a victory for haley w ourselves fa few weeks longer. tuesday night will be interesting in new hampshire. host: we look forward to hearing more of your reporting. a national political reporter for fox news, as well as a political reporter for the concorde. thank you so muchorning. stay warm out there. weere hearing about former president donald trump. today, he will a rally in manchester, new hampshire, a couple of days before the first in the nation primary with livcorage beginning at seven :00 p.m. eastern on c-span, c-span now our free mobile video app, or c-span.org. onheame platforms at 4:00 p.m. todaye ll hear fm the

california democratic represtave speaking at a house party for the biden elt in campaign for the democratic primary. that is all of the time that we have for washington journal today. thank you to everyone who called in and have a great day. ♪ ■6 c-span's washington journal involving you to discuss politics and public policy, from washington, d.c.country. sunday morning, the director of the university of new hampshire's survey center andrew smith with 20 24 new

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