the tools they need to be ready for anything. comcast supports c-span as a public service, with these other television providers, givi you a front row seat to democracy. >> coming up on "washington journal," your calls and comments lthen arnie arnesen, hf "washington journal" to discuss the 2020 for new hampshire primary and issues important to democratic voters. and the publisher and managing entered her of "insidesources, michael graham, ois republicans. "washington journal" starts now. ♪ host: this is "washington journal" for january 22. governor ron desantis decided to end his run fornouncing it via d

supporting president -- former president trump. that leaves it one fellow and one lady left, according to nikki haley. you can call and comment on the current state of the nominating process. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. if you want to text your thoughts on the current state of the campaign, (202) 748-8003. you can also post on facebook and on x. a little bit of the breakdn. reportinat desantis was supposed to fly from south carolina tuna hampshire saturday night for an event but instead flew home to tallahassee --'s he

was supposed to fly from south carolina to new hampshire saturday night for an event but instead flew home to tallahassee. he wanted to share his decision, hoping to avoid what had transpired in south carolina 's campaign. around 2:00 yesterday, fundraisers received a message b4from the governor's finance director informing them of the decision. twoed anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the decision. that decision made the governor to stand -- governor desantis via a video yesterday. here is a portion. [video clip] gov. desantis: nobody worked harder and we left it all out on the field. finish in iowa, we prayed and

deliberated on the way forward. if there was anything i could do to campaign stops, more interviews, i would do it. we cannot ask our supporters to volunteer their time and donate their resources if we do not have a clear path to victory. accordingly, i am suspending my campaign. i am proud to have delivered on 100% of my promises, and i will not stop now. it is clear to me that a majority of republican primary voters want to give donald trump another chance. they democrats attacking him . i have had disagreements with donald trump on coronavirus pandemic and anthony fauci, trump is superior to the current incumbent joe biden. that is clear. i signed a pledge to support the republican nominee, and i will honor that pledge. it is my endorsement because we cannot go back tomg yesteryear. warmed over corporatism that

nikki haley represents. the days of putting americans less, tout -- kowtowing large organizations, are over. host:is on his decision to drop out on his presidential run, leaving former president trump and nikki off tw hampshire primary. you can talk about the state of affairs and other aspects of campaign 2024. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. u 748-8003. you can also post on facebook and on x. emerson college, out of boston, has released what they're calling their final new hampshire poll going into tomorrow as far standings are concerned. as it stands, with governor

desantis still being part of it, former president trump expected to get■ 50% of those voters, followed by nikki haley, 35% estimated result as far as what it is yet to see were governor desantis'votes will go with the two candidates left. 7% of those going into tomorrow still undecided when it comes to either who they are going to choose -- this is all the republican side -- with president biden, that campaign, in new hampshire, as well. avis a call or send us a text, post on x -- again, give us a call or send us a text, post on facebook or x. in georgia, independent line, bill, campaign 2024 and the latest, go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call.

the only choice i see that we have at this given time the nikki haley has vision, as all the great qualities it would take for president. but donald trump, he has got the mentality of a five-year-old child. and to me, he is a disgrace for this country, as well as the republican party. so i would encourage all voters, whether you're republican or ins myself, get behind nikki haley and push her on through this time. furthermore, one other thing, i voted for democrats in the last maybe eight e, and i was an independent up until then. but i do not have any choice. i cann a this country to go down, veterans such as

myself who serve the country in vietnam, i cannotwatch democrac. i would actually consider nikki haley my choice for president. i would like to hear more about it. host: is it a certain policy position she holds her just her general demeanor? what is it about her that attracts you as a candidate? caller: i think the biggest thing about her is that she wants to move on from trump. she does not want to get tied down. i can sum it to three words, she wants to make amera greater and greater and greater than it has ever been. this is encouraging to me, and i am hoping it will be encouraging to other voters. host: ok, that is bill there in georgia. ed in ocean city, new jersey, independent line, as well.

caller: yes, i am a thir for pre united states, so new hampshire voters can cast right in votes for me tomorrow -- write-in votes for me tomorrow. we need a constitutional convention to serve the whole government over again. it is a corporate plutocracy run by billionaires and millionaires. vote for me tomorrow in new hampshire. host: republican line in new surecaller: i am definitely supporting president trump. he had record, the best record in my lifetime. i have been voting since 1980. you know, i think with governor desantis opting out, is votes will go to donald trump, so win tomorrow in new hampshire. i'm supporting him 100%.

host: how early on did you want to give you support to the former president when it comes to another run at the white house? caller: oh, right from the ge you know, when he decided to run. i was behind him 100%. what he did with the border, what he did with his policies. again, it is like your boss, you don't t they do a good job and run the company well, you have got to support your boss. i know it is a lot of personality would donald trump, but i'm strictly looking at policy. host: dan will be participating in new hampshire tomorrow in the first primary of the state there for republicans. you can call and comment on the current state of affairs when it comes to the nominating process. he mentioned governor desantis, an editorial this morning

talking about the end of the ■5k9desantis campaign and giving analysis on it. you can find that at miamiherald.com. now that that presidential campaign has ended, but there is damage of the laws he has pushed in florida. without his political ambitions, there likely won't be battles against drag queen bars, efforts to build a trump base. hard right stance on issues like abortion and the ukraine war, which he wanted to call a territorial dispute, alienated some voters. he was a candidate without a lane. he established himself as a dominant figure in state politics and had the legislature under his thumb. .mhe got votes with often little vetting and used to the house by

design. the editor saying, you could try again in 2028, but he returns to the sunshine state for his final three years of his second term. in hindsight, it is clear the young governor, only 40 fight come -- 45, was a man in a hurry, too much of a hurry. on our independent line come out of wisconsin, this is alan. caller: hey, good morning. i am going to break a little news here, i am running for president as an independent candidate. my number one issue being student loans. i will cancel them and replace the lending system with something that works. i think people are tired of the d versus r campaigns we have seen. this coming election will be an older, more tired, more bitter rehash of atron desantis actuals calling for bankruptcy to

student loans, which i appreciated. is just me apparently, because neither biden nor trump will do anything meaningful about student loans.so if i could urge people with student loans to come to collegefor president.com. we need to take a this two-party -- host: aside from your own candidacy, who has your support? caller: among the d's and r's, i cannot endorse either of those two parties. they have this country in a dump. only 1.5% of the population actually on its to either the d's or r's candidates. why are we letting these people run the country? makes no sense. i urge anyone out there to look at any candidate other than a democrat or republican. host: madison, wisconsin,

independent line. this is jeremy. caller: how you doing? i give a shout out to to alan, the new presidential candidate. here in madison, i had the university of wisconsin madison department help me in the late 1980's, 1992 -- host: back to the campaign and the last couple days, what do you think? caller: i do think. i think i t ok, ok. let's hear from nikki haley, campaigning in exeter, new hampshire, yesterday. the features of her speech, looking at the topic of national security issues. here is a portion of that >> do not let biden tell you that china is a competitor. i have dealt with china every nations.ay in the united they never saw us as a competitor. they always saw us as an enemy.

we have to start looking at them the way they look at us. we can deal with it, not by putting your heads in the sand, but by being strong. first thing we will say you are no longer buying any u.s. land from us and we are going to take back the land they have already purchased. [applause] we will go to our universities and say you either take foreign money or you take american both are over, and we will get that for an out of our schools. [applause] we will blacklist all technologies that build up their military. and do you know, we have had more americans die if for no that -- die of fentanyl then the erect, afghanistan, and vietnam -- then the iraq, afghanistan, and vietnam wars combined.

they need our economy. and then we will strengthen our military. strong militaries do not start wars, strong militaries prevent wars. [applause] and that does not mean throwing a lot of money at the department of defense, it actually means cleaning it up, getting rid of tape, making sure we go and focus on the things that really matter for the future. right now, you have too land, a, and sea. we need to be focused on cyber, space, submarines. host: more from nikki haley available on our website at c-span.org also our app at c-span now. former president trump speaking yesterday in new hampshire, we

will show you that in little bit. moou a poll to look at how new hampshire voters are putting their support coming up to tomorrow. overican voters, 52% planning on supporting the president versus 34% for candidate haley. republicans, 64% of support versus 22%. amongst undeclared who are registered, 48% giving support ntrump. former president trump. those with no college degree, of those giving their support to the former president 27% to nikki haley. college graduates, 39% giving their support overhaley. it goes on from there. that is the monmouth pole with the "washington post." you can find it online, too. you can stay close to c-span for the results and analysis and

also your calls and comments on the events of campaign 2024 on the eve of this new have to primary. houston, texas, independent line, we hear from melba. caller: good morning, america. goodbye, desantis. trump all the■1lç way. we need to get him back in office of he can finish what he was doing at the beginning of his presidency. he servedp years. host: also from our independent line, this is from wisconsin, edward. caller: nikki haley has not run, america is not looking for a new generational leader. after biden, we are looking for a proven leader, and that is trump. after all that trump took from all the democrats, we owe it to him to put him back in office.

and i hope he picks marjorie greene for his vice president. thank you. host: why her? because the demos deserve it. host: ok. call from wisconsin. in south carolina, we hear next from dennie. caller: i support donald twhen , everything was fine. no wars. d buy groceries. you could afford to get gas. he is the one that should be in there. he is the one to straighten out this country. host: governor, nikki haley? caller: no, i will not vote for her if she was the only one up

there to vote for her. host: why not? caller: because she took that rebel flag down on top of that. no, i would not vote for her. like i said, donald is the best president we have ever had. and he has took a lot of junk d. that is for sure. host: that was in south carolina, republican line. neighbor from the north, sanford, north carolina, democrat line. charles, hello. caller: good morng, w you doing? i would like to tell you this, the delusional republicans, listen, they listen to everything trump tell them, which is lies. he wasn't the best president.

he is a racist. please tell all the democrats -- i mean, republicans, trump ex p. they calling him president like he is in office now. i wish they would come to their senses and bring america together and let trump quit dividing everybody thank you very much. host: that is charles in north carolina calling us on our line for democrats. by the way, when it comes to money being spent in new hampshire, specifically on ads, politico looks at ad spending, broadcast cable, tv, digital radio and satellite, new hampshire, analysis from january 16 through 23, when it comes to the individual campaigns, nikki

haley, spending $1.6 million former president trump $1.3 million. a democrat, $461,000. supervarious candidates, a haley fund, $2.6 million in spending. $2.2 million from inc.. pro dean phillips pac, we deserve better, $4.5 million. your thoughts on the nominating process as it plays out in new hampshire with their primary set fo call or comment on one. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. you can text us at (202) 748-8003. in pennsylvania, this is from greg, republican line. caller: good morning. i wish you would have asked

charles from north carolina how he refers to barack hussein obama and whether or not he refersormer president obama as president obama. i am guessing he did. you should have done that. but thing about the media sources that c-span uses, despite the fact that it seems overwhelming -- and i don't k the identity of all the callers self identified as much as you do, but it appears the independents call in more than either democrats or republicans. why not rotate independent to the top of e st. it is always d, r, i or r, d, i. you have proofhat i should be at the top of the list once every three months. i wish you would quote some

media -- host:■ as far as the campaign itself, what is your thinking, particularly with events in new hampshire? caller: i think nikki haley is a smart woman. i think she is driven. but it is nothing but talking points with her. and she is trading on the fact that she is a woman, and she in the united states. and that gets her support from a lot of people who are concerned about white guilt. anderned about white guilt. we are the best country in the world, and the reason is because of the people who built it. is not any more perfect than any of the founding fathers. you look at her, and compare what shes th"íatand what donaldt his rallies and josef robinett biden says that his,ho is the mt

impressive of those three people. host: ok, lisa in massachusetts, go ahead. caller: hi, well, i am kind of sick of hearing the republicans mislead, misguide, and misdirect. trump was not a good president. you want to know who loves this country? i love this country. and that is why i get so passionate about it. oh, man. you get on the phone and it is hard to actually think of everything you wanted to say. proverbs 616 ascribes what god thinks isxb anok, trump's pictue there. host: from jane in maryland, democrats line. caller: hello, this is jane. i just want to say all the people calling on the republican pray.

everybody know what trump is, new what he was when he was in the white house, when he wasfirn in, when he came down from the plane. united states has never been invaded like what he has done. , nothing but a criminal, and their voting for him. they say, what's what we going to do, and nothing. they want to stick with trump. but if they want --the poor kidm 87, they won't have a life. his wife, they would not even hold hands. he is a robber of the poor.

host: ok, independent line, upper marlboro, maryland. caller: yes, i■# think trump is going to win the primary tomorrow. dissent is dropped out, was a surprise, did not expect it so soon -- desantis dropped out, was a surprise. florida is different than florida, and that was his own talking points. i think the republicans are a joke, but trump is going to get the nomination aid will have a landslide victory. one other thing, nikki haley tries to identify herself as a no woman. she has failed to do that, and she is not going to get the minority vote, especially

african-americans and hispanics, they are not going to vote for her. that is my take. host: ok. taking calls on the ate of campaign 2024, especially as governor met -- governor desantis dropped his campaign. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. you may or member, it was at that reason really we're former president trump confused nikki haley with nancy pelosi over the events of january 6, and they turn that into a campaign ad. [video clip] >> last night trump was at a rally. >> nikki haley, nikki haley, nikki haley. >> on and on mentioning me multiple timesh9ary 6 better? >> nikki haley is in charge of security. >> then.

they say he got confused. >> you have to have an id to buy a loaf of bread. what is -- i am driving over a road, it is almost all paper. you can see paper. i know cans. we see whales washing up on shore because of the wind. >>■p vetercell phones, do they? >> he got confused and said he was running against obama, he never ran against obama. >> we did it with obama, won an election that they said can never be won. >> i am joe biden, and i approve this message. host: let's hear good morning. thank you for taking my call. i trulyoing to win

tomorrow in this primary. tomorrow, he is going to have a big landslide win because people in new hampshire know what is going on in theit is the same, . even democrats do no want joe biden to be president no more because it is just a mess wherever you turn. economy is bad and national security is at risk everywhere. most people that really love this country, trump because he needs to come back and clean all this mess from biden and his people. host: you think it will turn into a two-person race, that being the former president the current one? caller: i think donald trump is going to come back to the

presidency, and i think that is good news for everybody, even people that like him and don't support him now. i think he is the most intelligent person we have in that case. i understand that he has been very, very polarized president because he is very outspoken, but he spoke the truth. don't like to hear the truth, so i support donald trump. host: ok, we got that. henry in new york, doc caller: good morning, and thank you for letting me speak. hope you can hear me. i am sitting here and listening body talk, and this is a day in america, when so-called americans talk about freedom and pliberty going to vote for trum. he is not convicted yet, but he is a felon with 91 indictments. he still documents.

can you hear me? host: yes, go ahead. caller: his golf course, president and history, impeached twice. he isac a felon, a racist. and this is the man america wants to put inside the white house again. host: that is henry there in new york. part of former president trump's day will be spent in new york, by the way, and tending trial that continues on -- attending a trial that continuesit is reporr president has told -- what he thinks of the writer sexually ae 1990's. the former president could testify defamation trial over his 2019 comment,

branding her a liar, saying she stated a sexual attack to sell a memoir. jury found last year that trump sexually abused carol. a u.s. distric judge has ruled that if the former president takes the stance now, he will not be allowed to say she concocted her allegatnsed by financial■k consideration. even just watching the proceedings evolve, the ex-president and current republican front runner could be in contempt of the case. watching that play out the associated press writing that. let's dorothy in ohio, republican line. go ahead. caller: hello, i just wanted to that i have still been

washing -- watching c-span during the bush-gore contr . when nothing else worked, i could always go to c-span. i am sad, but i am used to it with media anymore, now it has just turned into this bastion of people calling in. with all due respect, why don't you show the trump ad with tucker carlson? why would you show an ad of joe .abin making fun of somebody being senile? i mean, are you kidding me? and with all due respect, newer almost like dnc headquarters -- you are almost likeheadquarters. people that call in, i think you have been reduced as just a

bastion of -- come on in, everybody call in, and let's bash trump. host: with all due respect, for the last several decades of this program, people have called in and given their opinions on various presidential candidates, republican and democratic. that is the openness when it comes to people making their comments, particularlyvarious cn presidential campaigns. but thanks for calling, oh david in georgia, democrats line. hello. caller: hey, guys. longtime listener, over 15, 20 years, started with my dad. ok, so, the guy that was in kansas, i wish i was going on after him when he was talking about the economy and all of that stuff. haven't we alligally in charge of the economy?

i mean, isn't it the price of gasresponsibility? i think we have kind of all realized that. i am more concerned about davos putting their vote behind trump, and that is all corporate america, so the corporations are 100% in. they want the money and think it would be good for corporate business. kind of seeing where all the fingers are pointing and what side that will go to. i'm not against corporate america, but all i am saying is, the big guys are making the money, i look at this economy is not an inflation economy, it is a greedy corporate atmosphere that has worked its way all the way down to small business. host:wayne is next, nashua, new hampshire, republican line. hello. caller: hey, this woman called,

she had a valid point. i know this fromg c-span, if you are a trump aide or, you -- if you are a trump hater, you can comesay anythingd over again. but if you start saying anything about joe biden, everyone has their finger on the trigger. you know,ot a perfect man, and neither is joe biden though. but all i know is about four years living under trump is like night and day living under joe biden. my life was so much better under trump. gas was cheaper, food was cheaper.i could go on and on about how things were better under trump versus biden. but you know, i will tell you right now, he would not have 91 indictments against him if he was not running.

i really believe this is once again the democrats going after him because he is in the lead right now. host: win tomorrow? caller: do i think he will win i think he will win. actually, i hope he does because nikki y is a mitch mcconnell republican. she wants more wars, and i don't think we need that right now. we need to clean up this joe biden mess. host: ok, that is wayne in new hampshire, one of the people participating in the pr candidates left after the exit of governor desantis, nikki haley and the former president donald trump. during his rally yesterday, he took time during part of his talk about legal issues, back to this idea. here's a portion of that from yesterday. [video clip]

fmr. pres. trump: many presidents leave and there are things you can go after. frankly, that is why supreme court is working on immunity. you have to have inherited immunity for president, otherwise a president will not have to function. truman would not have done here, nagasaki, ended the war, probably. he would not have done it. so many things would not be done. give it, barack obama shut missiles during his term, shut missiles into an area and killed a lot of people, they missed. does that mean you indict m but you know, you have to allow a president to do hisl make dec. it is like the police, i say, we have to give police back there power. to me, it is the best analogy.

and our democrat-run cities are densle crime right now, never seen anything like it. washington, d.c., people are getting shot everyday. taking over the capital of the country, fix it, clean it, and we are going to make it safe, bring it back, better than ever. but it is a little bit like the police. you have a rogue cop, you know what a rog seldom, that we have people, no matter where, no matter what, in thebut you havee cop, a bad apple, whatever. they make it so that it cannot happen, and therefore everyone elsem iand murders at levels wee never seen before. no, we're going to have to do this immunity for the president. if you have a president that does not have immunity, he will

never be free to do anything beuse opposing party will always indict him as soon as he leaves the white house. you take away the power of the presidency, it will be a different country. hopefully the decision will be a correct one, hopefully. host: again, you can see more on the weitand the app if you want to check out what the candidates are saying leading up to new hampshire. new hampshire and --leader givit to nikki haley when it comes to their choice. here is the headline from that, where there is smoke, there is fire. nikki haley is our choice for nikki h ddressing she has the want and the prc ability to get things done that the whole country can get behind. growing inpeent voters makingthe silent majority. it says the dinosaurs had their

ot, and they were elected for extinction. dinosaurs in the last two administrations have had their shot. nikki haley is the fireball from the heavens to light them out. ■vnew hampshire union leader editors making their endorsement of nikki haley. this is elliot in new york, hi, i hope i can ask a quick political insider question before i get to my point. i amow, when is the deadline to fundraising when we get reports from the campaigns about how much money host: there usually done -- they are usually done quarterly. i will check on that just to be sure. caller: because this actually affects some of my things on the campaign. i would l talk about other stuff.

when you play donald trump's speeches, as opposed to nikki haley's speeches, it does not seem like donald trump has any awareness of what he has done already in the. i have heard nikki haley talk about disputes she had with someone over issues or. we never hear donald trump talk about the people who tried -- the discussions that were had on januar6 about whether he should go to the capitol. i would be very interested in hearing about■ñ that. he talks about crime going on all over the country, but he does not seem to have anything to say about a sexual assault that he committed i guess in a clothing store or something.

i would really like if any of these people would acknowledge that they have a president, a past, and a future and give us th■e whhost: ok, that was a calm new york. again, getting your thoughts on campaign 2024, new hampshire primary tomorrow. governor desantis dropping out of the race yesterday. again, democrats, (202) 748-8000. texts (202) 748-8003. and on x. elma in tennessee, independent line. hello. caller: hlo? host: you are on. caller: oh, yes.

i would like to expre■osst e cas money. it was hard for me to make up my mind just which one i wanted toe for either democrat or republican. sovote goes to nikki haley. i believe she would bring the that was it. host: ok, over there in cedar grove, tennessee, giving us her thoughts. tommy is next in georgia, republican line. caller: yes, i am very disappointed in my republican party. lsi am just shaking my head because i am like, why are we putting up this guy with 91 charges, this guy that says he want to be a dictator, this guy

that praises a dictator, this guy that threatened to kill soldiers that won't follow his orders? and i am just disappointed. say this, but i hope it does not hurt any feelings, i think the reason why we having these problems is use white men have become so weak that they just won't stand up and tell this one man, no, we're not going to lose our democracy. host: as a republican, who do you want to support them? call: wow, i am still trying to figure it out, actually. host: what is the? there is nikki haley you had governor desantis until yesterday. you could not support nikki because they both turn around and told to trump that he

is the better choice. she knows he is not the better -ochoice. he knows he not the better choice. but for some reason, they are so scared. i m it is just --i don't understand it. host: did you vote for former president trump either time, initial run and reelection campaign? caller: i did. i didn't like what's her name, so, yeah, i did. i definitely would never vote for him again, trump. host: ok. stephen, democrats line, fort lauderdale, florida. caller: good morning. ■yi want to say something to all my democrat brothers and sisters who, for years now, make me so frustrated because they keep questioning how republicans can continue to back donald trump.

i am going to answer it for you. he is a cult leader. the republican party has fallen into a dangerous political cult. we have to feel sorry for them and have to pray for our country that we can possibly get rid of him somehow. we have to elect biden, even with all his faults and with his old age we cannot allow donald trump in the white house. he is dangerous. that is all i have to say. god bless america. host: florida, independent line, sarasota. caller: i am 86 years old. by six years old, i knew who hitler's was. we turned our city's lights out at night in fear of hitler. eight -- 80 years later, we live in fear again. evangelicals, will they choose a

criminal like ,çparabus to lead us? will a son ask fgive them, father, for they do? thank you. host: republican line, from this is denise. hello. caller: you know, the more i listen, the more i am disturbed with wre we are, more divided as a country than ever. to me, it is not about democrat, not about republican, it is reallybout doing t right thing. if we really wanted to pick the right president, he probably would have a lpimpediment, becae all candidates just tell us what we want to hear. don't believe everything you hear. your homework. i did vote for trump. i would do it again.

i amme of the other people, and it is just disturbing how people are not doing their homework. they are basing their opinions based on how they feel, not fact. host: you said do your homework, what is it about your homework that makes you want to support the former president one more time? caller: i mean, i think it is one of those thingdo the right thing, people are going to hold you back, going to find things about you, going to go at you hard. i think that is happening here. again, i do not think everybody is perfect. i have prayed about it. host: but based on your research, waste on your research. caller: personally -- based on your research. caller: personally, i did better under his administration. he did more for blacks then even

obama did. just me and black people have been made to vote democrat just because that is how we were brought up. once i started looking at more facts, i went a different direction. people need to remember that democrats wanted to keep slavery. republicans were against it. host: alan is in hawaii, independent line. caller: thank you for taking my call from hawaii. first question, i am hoping you can get some are experts on isr, especially like michael doran, do some topics researching on the iran issues, even with robert malley that haven't been resolved. those need to be answered. i am excited because i guy i know a little bit is running for

presidentresting independent perspective, trying to help resolve issues with student loans and to help get student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy. i think that is a very interesting angle to consider in entering a candidacy for the presidency. i think people should look at that. i'm not sure how it will play because it is a super dynamic political environment right now, fraught with all kinds of complexities. but u kn what, i think it is great time for someone who is an independent to infuse themselves. your show is a great place to do it. so i want to congratulate him for doing it on "washington journal." i congratulate you for having him on their. thank -- for having him on air. host: florida, republican line. caller: good morning.

i am a deplorable cold follower. i do not drink coffee. i have my kool-aid every monday morning. greatest thing is our national debt, and i believe drill, baby, take from saudi arabia and other countries in middle east, oil, and i think every w on public land should be nationalized. i think our government should take some control of drilling. i thinwe sul take a lesson on that. host: to the campaign specifically, as a thoughts on governor desantis ending his campaign? caller: i am trump all the way. i hated see desantis leave so early. i think he might make a good vice president, needs some seasoning.

can solve this problem. put a quarter to national debt, put a quarter to interest on the national debt,uarter to social security, and we get medicare under control. it is not medicare itself, it e. i have been billed $800 for a pneumonia shot in the hosta bilu shot in the hospital. they need to get this under control, the term just by medical companies and doctors. it is criminal. host: just a few minutes of to call in and give your thoughts on thetas of campaign 2024. one of the things the former president has hinted atce presi. one of the people yesterday on the sunday shows sankey will not turned on since -- such a -- on

ay shows sankey would not turn down such a position is tim scott. when it comes to the question about whether he would serve that, he gets to that a little bit from his parents on the sunday show on cnn. here is a portion. [video clip] >> on the . interestingly enough, then after the campaign is over, everybody unites iat to start uniting behind one candidate in the republican party. that candidate is only going to be donald trump. so when we are thinking about what is next, it shono be attacks against each other. we should turn our attention to joe biden and to the amican people, what they want. they want a better future. they want hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs across this nation. when we start talking about the underlying issues and the principles under which humans flourish and what makes america at the most exceptional country on the planet, then we are

having a conversation. that won't happen until we get to the general election. that should start right now. >> senator, hampshire on friday, some people in the crowd were chanting vp. would you like to be donald trump's running te? >> the only thing i want is four more years of donald trump and a republican majority in the senate, house, and the white house, so that poor kids who were growing up in neighborhoods like i grew up in have a chance for quality education. i want kids to look to their future and believe that america is their oyster. they can have whatever they want is what i want. if i can help it achieve that through my endorsement, by being on the campaign trail in my home state of sou carolina, that is the goal. if you do not think about yourself but think about the country first, we will be in good shape. >>

that door is wide open. >> you can take it any way you michael is always to do the same thing, make america and americans believe in our future in a way we do not today. host: senator tim scott from yesterday talking about his possible politicalhe also talkes pers future on saturday via a tweet that announced his engagement. it says, she said yes, thk you for making me the luckiest man inhe world, quoting a verse from theibthat was on twitter 's twitter feed, or x feed. alex in washington, d.c., democrats line. caller: good morning. i actually really like tim scott.

would like him as vp if he ends up, whoever picks him. i have never heard a more fragile, victimized group of people calling into this show than trump supporters. trying to say this show5s biased and nobody listens to them. i remember a few years ago the popular thing to do on the conservative side was to call democrats snowflakes and say they were offended by everything. now take a look in the mirror, people. i'm really glad to hear that desantis dropped out of the dsrace. i actually do not mind nikki haley on a lot of positions she has. i believe she will have a good showing. host: what position do you share with her? caller: i really appreciate her sense of fiscal responsibility. i think she probably would have the best -- as opposed to trump

when the national debt went up $8 trillion, not quite as much obama. body says national debt is their biggest issue, i think they are mismatched in what they are voting for. i agree■g with the republicans saying that the national debt is the biggest priority. i am 28 years old and would love to be able to buy a house one ve to be able to retire. i do not see that for me there when this country is going with its de all that. between trump and nikki haley, based on trump and haley's track record in south carolina debt ak having a governor that actually has political experience and experience running a political machine would be a better option. host: alexander washington, d.c., talked about debt issues.

on "usa today" or on its website, they talk about the national debt. a headline from today's paper, a $34 trillion headache. national debt rose with no end near. one more call from north carolina, john, independent line. caller: good morning. desantis, i would vote for either one of them. they are good people. i was a lady a while ago, you know, c-span, donald trump's name has been mentioned and criticized for years and years. not been a day y'all ain't had something bad to say about donald trump, not one day. i am 8 years old and have been seeing c-span for years, and if he don't get in, our nation is gone. that is just a true statement,

and i will never vote for another democrat again, never. have a good day. host: ok, a call from an independent finishing off the hour, looking at campaign 2024. we will continue not only talking about the campaign overall but focusing on new hampshire in light of the primary tomorrow or two guests joining us. first, pgressive syndicated radio talk show host arnie arnesen, host of "the attitude with arnie arnesen." later, conservative commentary michael graham, publisher and managing editor of "insidesources." will have those conversations when "washington journal" continues. ♪ ♪ >> discover the heartbeat of

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c-span, your unfiltered view of politics. "washington journal" continues.. host: our first guest of the morning is arnie arnesen she is a syndicated talkshow host at of w and h radio in concord, good morning and thank you for returning to the show. guest: welcome to balmy new hampshire. host: are a longtime watcher of politics, how does this primary set itself up over previous ones? guest: it's so sad.it is the s'e ever experienced. there is no enthusiasm, there's very few house parties, there is no deb the only debate we've seen is donald trump and judges in new york city. on the democratic side because the democrats are starting with

south carolina and there's a push for a right in for joe biden, the democratic national committee says it's meaningless. for democrats, there is little reason to be engaged and for republicans, very little hands-on grasping t rooms and 'n about the issues. it's all been about the chaos. that's donald trump. even if you are running against na who is the only one left standing is nikki haley, they are afraid to attack him and they just sayonald trump wie chaos. where you stand on the issues? it's been the least issue focused discussion i have ever heard for any kind of ele■ictio let alone election for president. host: now there are two people standing honorable -- republican side, what you think of ron desantre you surprised? guest: god, no. i did a show thursday and they asked me about ron desantis and i said he's burnt toast, what's

the point. the only place he could really have done significantly well was iowa. saw in iowa, he's been there for over a year and he has the governor eyewitness pocket. he■ r had appealed to the evangelical base but now what you see about iowa and what happens here is that in iowa, it's almost like they are just there are two evangelical groups. it turns out maga surpassed what he did. new hampshire is one of the least church states in the nation. we don't necessarily trust big government or big church so we have nowhere to go. money and frankly, he is probably the most dis-likable person running for president. &0wh running as a version of maga and you're not

even likable and have no charm have no money, there was nowhere for him to go. if he wants to set himself up either to run for the u.s. senate run for president in 2028, getting 5% of the vote in hampshire was not going to do him any service. host: if you take a look at usa today recently, they did a poll about new hampshire voters. independent voters. there was a poll taken two weeks ago that said lf?q: of democrats and independents rank the question about the matters of democracy over concrete concerns like health care or crime defying the conventional political wisdom of the economy. the same thing playing out there in the state? guest: i think everyone is terrified. they look at democracy on the about the franchise.re than st it's more than just about the

right to participate and establish your future. now you're tald about democracy and you are talking about autonomy. really are talking about the economy. if you begin to see what donald trump is bringing in which is a form of fascism, it's not only taking away the right to exercise and participate in the undermine your ability to be equal when it comes to health care and the economy to recognize unions. the idea of democracy is a much bigger umbrella than most people think. i think it has some economic undertones as well. host: if you want to ask our guest a question about tomorrow's primary, camping 2024 overall, (202) 748-8000 for demo2) 748-8001 for republicans, (202) 748-8002 independent.

you wrote a recent piece about this right in campaign this taking place in the state or presiden■bi ca host: can you elaborate that? e biden, write him in on the republican side. how do you spell democracy? biwith chris christie out of the race, no one is challenging trump. nikki haley is maga polite. on all the issues, it's similar to what donald trump will do. end, you get nothing in the way of protecting democracy.

she wants to get rid of birthrights citizenship, she is sir to h aa portion is the thirr republicans. if you want to send a message and get enthusiasab the democracy question, you write in joe biden on the republican side that ultimately is more powerful because that is a statement to republicans that you actually care about democracy. no other choice gets you that. on the democratic side, the dnc said writing in joe biden that'. frankly, if you want biden, this is an opportunity for you to send a spy -- send a policy message. there a conversation in new e about writing in cease fire. if you write in cease fire, you are hurting joe biden. i said no,ha biden is benjamin netanyahu.

if you want anything in the way of enthusiasm, what you have to focus on is if we cannot participate in the primary, then send a message. if you know people under the age of 35 arenking about this primary, give them a reason to show up on tuesday. writing in cease fire which is what they the hostages what they believe in. writing in cease fire will do it. it sends a says bb is hurting you, we are not. host: you also wrote about the 2024 campaign for the nation. this is what you wrote -- can you elaborate that? guest: joe has done a relatively remarkable job. i did not support him before and

yet what you realize what he's done, he's an interesting character. he becomes the moment. he is not an ideologue. what the moment has become right now whether the climate crisis are dealing with unions moment a more progressive way. but he doesn't carry39 -- bernie sanders and elizabeth sanders are close to his age but they don't carry the persona of age. unfortunately joe biden does. when you want to engage young people, persona is important, not just the issues but how you present yourself. i think that's part of problem is this is a moment where if we mentioned democracy on the line, what happens to american workers is on the line, the women i know in this country are on the line, i don't get the sense he brings that to the table. unfortunately, donald trump is passionate on those subjects.

he was to feed his ego and fascist agenda. i'm disappointed in him but in 2024 in november, here's what i bring to the voting booth. i'm bringing in kate cox from in the uaw and their movement for the unions in this country. i'm bringing in the climate crisis and thev;nvestment and things like solar and wind. i'm bringing those in the only vehicle i have to bring those into the voting booth is not going to be udo trump. it will be joe biden. i will vote for joe biden not because of joe but because of all the issues i care about. he will be the■d: if you take t, how far has he driven on those issues? ■■guest: i'll be honest with yo, joe biden is not mentioned the word abortion r his -- first fs of his presidency.

the dobbs decision is changed everythingfor joe biden. i think joe biden now realizes dobbs wasn't just about abortion. it's about the economy and it's abt the ability for women to be a part of the economy. with each passing day, he's beginning to recognize that and i think he is realizing he has to make a difference even though old joe would never have talked about it. the new joe does. when you look at the climate crisis, what he's done with remanufacturing, it sounds like it's about a manufacturing job but it's not only bringing jobs back to theces that were decimated but it's what are those jobs? they are looking at things that will help us address the climate crisis. he's spent mot. i think that's important as well. on a lot of the issues he's there. has been able to get the student debt reduction he wanted? no but if he was president in

2024 or after, i think a lot of that will follow if he gets the house and senate he needs. if you guess the trifecta, he can put his agenda forward. host: arnie arnesen is joining us for this conversation from new hampshire. john inirst, go ahead. caller: good morning, everyone. happy monday. two ts, about -- you talk about democracy but who's the one actually attempted to overthrow the government? the democrats ang to destroy this democracy since day one and take away voters rights. the climate crisis, there's no such thing as a climate crisis. i'm how long do you think

electric vehicles will last? they won't last moranyou are acs that couldn't be further from the truth. you are trying to shove your agenda down our throats. host: don in texas. guest: when denies science, we can have a conversation. when you deny fascism, we can't have a conversation. part of the problem is it's been about diverting away from what is happening. i will not talk about the climate crisis unless you look at what's happening to the sea caps. i will look at what's happening with hurricanes. i will talk about the fires in canada. all those things are not about whether. they are not about the weather, they are about the climate and if you want to deny what to sa'r choice but is my future and is my children's future.

i'm not going to go into denial because you say it doesn't exis< it and the temperatures indicated. it was the hottest year ever on the planet last year. that's your focus, my focus is how do i save my country, how do i save my climate, how i save the environmeyou can exist in tu do but i will exist in the world we live in. host: independent line, bruce in kentky. caller: yes, thanks for taking michael. i'm really disappointed here tht you all promote to save democracy yet this guest is democrats should vote in the republican primary. as spoilers. i don't think that's promoting democracy. guest: can i answer that

question? first of all, let me remind everyone that democrats cannot vote in the republican primary. here's what happens, as of october 6 of 2023, you were able to change your party affiliation. that means you could pick up a pu ballot and become a democrat or you can become an undeclared. that was october 6 of 2023. after that, nothing changes. day of the primary in new hampshire, not only can republicans vote in their primary or d primary but what'sd an undeclared has a choice. that choice is that you pick up a democratic ballot or republican ballot. that's how it so is been in new hampshire. it's not that democrats would vote in the republican primary, it's that the undeclared get a choice. they can swing either way. that's one of the reasons why nikki haley can possibly do well here if she courts the

undeclared. if it was just republicans like in other states, it would be different but this has always been the way we've done it. that'■'s what makes this such an interesting state an interesting bellwether state. democrats do not vote in republican primaries. undeclared and republicans do and what'sesting about the election tomorrow is that in new hampshire in something called same-day means on the day of the primary come if you are not registered to vote, you can come in with the right documentation and you can participate in the primary. we had 245,000 people that have either become 18 or moved into the state who don't have a history and never voted in the primary. they may never have a history of voting. if someone was smart and worked on get out the vote, they would have made sure those got registered and voted on tuesday. my understanding is that donald

trump has an incdi vote in new e compared to what he did years ago and that organization might ultimately show up. nikki haley doesn't have that organization. she has americans for prosperity but would donald trump has is he is much more sophisticated this timehe were smart, he would go to them and say let me show you how to register and why you can vote in the republican primary. host:host: that's a lie. let's hear from jimmy and caller: yes, hi, thank you. thank you for c-span thank you washington journal. brian lamb is amazing. a!my question is, there are two points, nikki haley has name.

i'd like her reaction on her real name but■% the second one s i'd like to follow-up up on the last caller. you are right, i am a registered democrat and i cannot went to the national new hampshire primary to vote for a different party. i'd like her response to that. thank you. thank you for what you are doing. guest: nikki haley is an american. she was born in this country. what nikki haley'not the issue. the problem right now is because the republicans have realized the bus. what they have now done is they have moved aggressively on the immigration issue. that is what is so terrifying. what you are suggesting with her name is only about

disappointment about herg aboutw americans and the immigration issue. nikki haley wants to get rid of birthright citizenship. she may not want todocumented td trump wasn't and put them into a camp but what she wants to do is a more polite version,recognizie 11 million undocumented people in this country, what are they doing, they are working? they are working in your landscaping and on your roof. they are almost essential to the economy. in a lot of ways, she is pandering to that. if you want to mention her name, i want to remember -- to remind all of us that we are nation of immigrants. except for native americans, all her families came from somewhere else. that's our strength. host: when you think of the reelection campaign of president biden, how much of that is threatened by challenges on the democratic side from dean phillips or cornell west, the independents.

how much is that apossibility ot losing in new hampshire? guest: dean phillips is not an issue. that will not be an issue for joe although he wants to package as a younger joe biden, he is not that. i'm worried about the third-party. those are the kinds of things, we saw what happened with al gore. we understand what ra■elph nader did in new hampshire. we would've had president gore otherwise. is a significant sermon but the agendas joe biden needs to win, not by a tiny margin, he needs to win bythe third-party a choice. it's about establishing a platform for donald trump to win again. for joe biden to win oneds to ce people who are looking for a third way that they have one way and that's the way for democracy.

the way for decracy isb-i -d-e-n. host: there was a political talk show side. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [video clip] >> democracy dies in silence in the absence of debate. when voters are suppressed, can you imagine the state of new venture had send a letter to the democratic national committee to unlawful suppression of voters? that's what's going on so to all the candidates, nikki hanley to ron desantis, to marianne williamson, i celebrate you and i think we need more candidates to participate and parties that encourage8z competition, norona. 4 that's a small portion from yesterday, what host: guest: we

have a lawson's 1975 it's on the books that says we must have the first in the nation presidential primaries. that's the primaries. the rnc in the dnc ultimately, it is their primary. it is where they decide. i may disagree with what joe biden did in south carolina first but i think that is theito establish their calendar. if you want to have a primary in south carolina, have it on the day the dnc said but because we have law, we are required to have some kind of primary even if it's not something that will be recognized by the democratic party. up but if you ultimately want something that will be recognized by the dnc, tell the democrats to hold the room primary number two after south carolina and you can talk and there will be no competition and

the results will be recognized by the democratic party. this is a state that runs the primary and it's the parties that run the primaries. we're stuck with the law we republicans control the governor's office and the republicans control the senate and the house. we couldn't change the law. we are stuck. +q governor sununu is campaigning for nikki haley, what are your thoughts? guest: he is so cute. to him is my favorite political windsock. he is very affable and has very lilepinions. he is wishing he was the dom -- nominee and not nikki haley. he is campaign. in many ways, they are both phe line. explain to me wife nikki haley became president, you would pardon donald trump or if it

comes theboth nikki hanley and chris sununu would vote foronald trump because they don't care about democracy. they're using it as a figley. they want to retain their power, they don't care about democracy. host: his t host of the attitude heard on wnhn radio. john in tennessee, democrats line. caller: yes, i felt it was kind of necessao haley the devil her due. she enhanced the parks facilities in south carolina. it resulted in industrial

depmen including the bmw plant working across party lines with joe reilly, the longtime democratic mayor of charleston. to that point, any you have increased efficiency in transportation and it increases pollution and the environment. that stayed pretty much a positive point. i will hang up now. host: go ahead. guest: you are looking up what nikki haley did as governor but she helped orchestrate the removal of the u.s. from that climate she doesn't support the credits for out-earning of energy. and you look at how she is transformed her agenda, when it comes to running for president, she sounds very much like

g agenda. a the governor of south carolina is not the person running forwhf jobs and abortion, she is very much ma on this issue. shega. on thetrunk ma crowdg and that's what frightens mea and in the end, looking at two or three things you can point to,■s some governors do things right. when she embraces an agenda, it's being defined by the code others and the maggot base. when you look at those two in concert, she harms the country. there is a viewer who texted us --

guest: he has a problem with atthen again, what we have to do is we have to remind people what the issues are they care about. in the end, this is a■i campaign that doesn't have the name joe biden on it. it has the issue of democracy on it. this is a campaign that has an issue of what's happening th student loan debt, an issue about health care. issue about our economy. you have to put biden to the back of the bus and make the issue be the driver. i just had three young people in my house and by the time they got done with c were pumped about why they need to engage in 2024 any recognized they may not be happy with joe they want a future and if this is the only way to get there, they will vote for him. this is not an enthusiasm vote, it's an issue vote. host:ics

theme, was that a good road to go on as far as the president is concerned? guest: no, it wasn't. the economy for most people is not what's happening on wall street. the economy for most people is not about the fact that inflation is going up or down. the economy for most people is what'spening with my wages and can i afford to go to a doctor when i'm sick and do a have affordable housing? that so 80% of us live our lives. given iddenomics has been improving the economy but you don't feel it when you pay rent or feel it when you can't buy a house or you don't feel it when you go to a doctor, if it's an economy this not work forzqy. it needs to hit your pocketbook

these are the things i want to do. this is the beginning of the conversation so let me show you the direction of the list of -- rest of the conversation. host: florida on a republican line. caller: yes, the first thing i wanted to is i think c-span should give everybody one minute to say what they want to say without cutting them off because we have to wait 30 days to cloto say that how many times you guys say the word democracy. every democrat says that ends the democrats who are destroying our democracy. at theñr border, how much of tht is democracy? at the end of the day, i'm tired of the fascist and racist comments about trump. in everything you guys put on trump is exactly who biden is. everything that comes out of the democrats mouth is exactly who they are. incompetent.f the

he is senile and guys keep thinkingregurgitating the same s that we will believe what you say instead of what we think. i am tired of the trump bashing. i will vote forrui voted for hii will vote for him again. how many executive orders as biden done. he is a racist and i am so tired of you guys bashing trump. host: thank you, caller. she is proving her point. this is why democracy is wonderful. speak about donald trump and best joe biden and she gets to vote. that's ultimately what this is about. you're beginninggoing on with te gerrymandering and denying people the ability to make a choice in election because the only election that matters will be primaries where the

republicans are guaranteed the results. even the democrats. democracy is a choice and i want to celebrate defensive about donald trump. let's talk about the border. you have republicans refusing to embrace one of the■t immigration policies possible. they keep saying they want to fix the border and enhance our ability to keep people from coming across illegally they want to make sure there are more people along the border. there is a fabulous bill that's being stopped by republicans because they don't want to solve the immigration issue. they don't want to solve the border issue because this is what they use to threaten americans and threaten this country. i thinatthey keep talking aboute open borders. we do not have open borders. lking about it because the cartels use the republicans talking about open borders they going to places like venezuela and china nicaragua and say it's open

borders. let's charge you $20,000 and bring you up to the border. it turns out that's a lie. you do not have open borders. pass a bill that will likely enhance our ability to deal with the border issue. the people don't want to fix the independent line, hello. caller: hi, i was going to speak about the media but based on the last comment about the border, i am in new york and to say we don't have an open border is ridiculous. the amount of illegal immigrants , they came here, they didn't come in e right way. they came in illegally. to say that we don't have an open border is ridiculous. the media keeps saying things like this. it's what will turn everyone against them.

my questions was about the steel dossier, it was a lie. all reporters got the full of surprises. have any of them said it was a lie? we were wrong. there was no collusion with russia. ■ñmwe are losing this country because of the media. host: that's david in new york. guest: we don't have an open border, we need to repair the border absolutely. let's remember that someone who cobzmes here and turns himself n as a refugee and says they are taking asylum is not the same as an undocumented immigra■'nt. they are turning themselves in. they're handing themselves over and this is why i am here. they are not coming in illegally, they are seeking asthat is not the same.

we need to figure out how to process them and we need to figure it had to prove this many ening at the border. no one is disagreeing with you but after but asked the republicans why they are not supporting that and ask why they talk about an op border or when we want to address immigration policies and the border, they are missing in ■u action because they don't want to solve the problem. host: you talked a little bit about it at the beginning so elaborate how foreign policy could be a factor in this campaign. you talked about what's going on in israel. there was recent news about the houthis and the biden administration.how will that img forward? guest: the middle east has always been a tinderbox. sos been a place of such chaos. the problem right now as you have the most conservative reactionary head of the israeli

government and that's benjamin netanyahu. there was that comment of from the river to the sea and she was censored and people were appalled by that language. that's what bibi netanyahu did. not only did he say there will never be a two state solution which joe biden says is essential, he used the words from the river to the sea. not , this is bb mitt netanyahu saying this. as a■q■? to think that joe biden has to start thinking about israel is more of a client than anything else. they are dependent understands that. don't get dragged into something that will hurt israel and hurt the palestinians and hurt us on the world stage and frankly hurt joe biden's reelection campaign. this is the time for you to start talking about disconnecting from bb because he is not good for stability and he is toxic for israel. host: the biden administration

made targeted attacks against houthis. how does it politically impact the administration? guest: the problem now is that this is where this conflagration goes beyond what's going nat's . the question becomes -- there is no easy answerthere is no easy e problem at this point in time as you begin with the answer you can make which is demand a e-fire and then the stability you try to create. i don't know how to answer that question to be honest. i just know is that iran is pulling her strings and becoming haening with bb and he's what' pulling joe biden into the darkness. ho■ast alabama, democrats line, hi. caller: good morning. ■e bad girl.

i really love you. but you are doing a good job this morning. qit is about democracy. i made black woman that voted for joe biden. democracy is on the line. stop telling us and start worrying about democracy. as a black person, i'm very worried about this country and about everybody's freedoms. as a woman period, we need to be worried about democracy. you hit the nail on the head. i'm sick and tired of people flagging joe biden. netanyahu took his eye off the ball. [indiscernible] hamas was getting ready to

destroy israel but benjamin netanyahu was worried about his political future and the crimes he committed. he took the eyes off of being blamed himself. it's not about president biden and it's not about trump, it's about who are we as americans. joe biden has this economy on the right path and everybody needs to wake up. guest: i think she can be my cohost. you can't blame joe for every problem in the world. you can look at what he's tried to do in the last four years and what he's tried to do i think is been incredibly successful. he would have been more successful if he controlled the senate and the house. ■1look at what he's trying to do on student loans. we are i call student debt the

anti-dowry. you can't plan■7 a future. they can't plan a family. they can't put their investments into a business or buy a home. he understands that. ngs he wants to do. he also understands that he doesn't trust bb. he understands it. they putk their eye off of gaza. look what he was doing in the west bank. america used to be the conscience of israel but would be be in charge, there is no conscience. he is donald trump based in israel. if you want to protect israel, don't follow bb because he will not give you the results you want. donald trump is a raw shack test. he's whatever you want him to be. that'sunfortunately, this is the choice. he does not have a following of

an electorate. he has a cult. when you haveues don't matter. whatever the head of the cult says matters. for donald trump, it changes by the hour. there is no the only consistenct win if i don't, the election was illegal. the only solution is a trump solution. host: this is robin west virginia writing text -- guest: look, i didn't vote for joe biden the first time in the primary but i voted for him for president. i don't want him to run again. i didn't want him to run again but he somehow is in the position with an ego. he was the only could actually take on donald trump. the fact of the matter is, this

is what my choice is and they have started to grew mother people. look at the governor michigan in california. there are other people. this was not an opportunity to move them forward but the bench is getting thicker and longer. people understand that there will be new leadership groomed n wins in 2024 and you will have plenty of choices in 20 28. host: to what extent do you think vice president kamala harris is prepared to take over the position? guest: i think she is prepared. if anyone has seen what's been going on, i think she is ready to step in. my view is she doesn't have to. my hope is that joe biden may shuffle a little bit and feel old and has that.

he has institutional memory. he definitely has an understanding of what the momet only get reelected but i wanted to survive the next four years because in the end, as he continues to move forward in a position of power and if he gets the house and senate to work with him, there will not only be a salvaging of the democracy and a salvaging of the economy and ability to address the climate crisis but we will remind the world about why we are important player on the world stage. host:oar from philadelphia, democrats line. caller: good morning. i will hit some points very fast. i will vote for joe biden and i like what arnie said about joe biden being the vehle and she■m being the driver. that should be a placard. also, according to the 14th amendment, i think trump should be in prison along with 140

seven republicans and clarence thomas his wife. i believe in abortion rights.noi should do with my body. the wars overseas, we should support ukraine and i think we should not support netanyahu. i believe he's a dictator. i think immigration sh-m be something to talk more about because texas is sending their immigrants throughout the country. it's infuriating people and i think they are coming in and abusing the system. we need to focus on that because it's getting totally outrageous. it's something being discussed around the dinner table. lastly, i believe the tech company should stop abusing the people in the congo. thank you very much. you've addressed a lot of

those issues so tell me what you are paying attention to through november as we go through the spring and summer months. guest: you are talking to me on the 51st anniversary of roe v. wade thabbs. i will be saying to women, this is your opportunity not only to it's more than just what happened with dobbs. it's really about your quality in the work place. i will be looking and reaching out to women across the country from both sides of the political aisle. in t eerable together. if we are looking at our children and our families and we're looking at her connie looking at her access to health care how many doctors don't want to show up like in iowa because their ability to practice medicine is being threatened. i'm not just talking about ob/gyn. almost anyone that touches up patient now has to ask

themselves if they can provide the health care not just for women but for families. going forward, i want to see how the dobbs decision plays out and want to see how the climate crisis plays out and i want to see how the conversation with young people will play out. those things become the conversation in the november election, then joe biden wins. trump has no answer. with no solution. that's not it governor or a leader, that's not someone who will move us forward. if can see those issues predominate, joe wins. if trump ultimately becomes the issue, joe wins. there is a strategy just for a speaker but a significant win. the issues are too important for all of us. host: guest is the host of the attitude with arnie arneson. where can people find your show?

guest: they can go townhn live. word. we are hurt all over the country on the pacifica network. in houston, you can hears that't audiences so tune in. you make the decision. host: thank you for giving us your time. you are welcome. host: we will continue with our coverage of the new hampshire primary from new hampshire. we will have a dssmichael grahad managing editor and conservative commentator, the publisher of the inside sources website and t conversation. open form and told that if you want to participate about politics or the campaign or other political views. (202) 748-8000 for democrats, (202) 748-8001 republicans, and independents (202) 748-8002. we will start open forum when "washington journal" continues. ♪

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host: that's from the associated press. our coverage of the new hampshire primary continues on several fronts. you want to follow the latest coming out of new hampshire come he can do that on a couple of different spots on our website at c-span.org. the c-span now app is available as well. you can follow that if you are out and about. at 10:00 this morning, nikkiit's before the primary tomorrow and you can 10:00 a.m. and follow ag at 11:45 a.m., the democratic presidential candidate dean phillips will be at the rotary club in nashua, new hampshire. that will be on c-span at 11:45 a.m.

there are other things to follow as wl.let's hear from washingtoe can republican line, go ahead. caller: well good morning to c-span. had. one of the things i would like to bring up in an efi heard jamt trump wasn't wrong about the fact■s■á that there needs to bea change in nato funding. thank heaven he did because now it is funneling equipment to ukraine. he was one of immigration. he grew the economy quite well. he independence and he was sure right about the china virus. those are all policies that mr. trump enacted and attempted through all of the flak he was getting from every democrat around.

i will be voting for mr. trump, not because he is a charming devil, but because he has a proven track record. joe is something different. we've got higher oil and we are funding to wars, we are passing out allinds o■anethere and we ag illegal immigration. we are not tracking his coming in. i will never vote for a democrat. i don't care who they are called. host: california come republican line, you are next. caller: good morning. my name is frank i've been a citizen of this country since 1972 and i immigrated here legally. i have problems closing out republicans from the democratic primary and vice versa?

why don'weote? let's pick the best candidate for the job. host: ok, that's frank in california. it's hear from diana in massachusetts, independent line. caller:m calling because i listen to people and i agree with some of them and i don't agree with some of them. i really think we need an independent person to run. i'm just fed up with the republicans and the democrats. joe biden was listening to the american people and that's why they lost the house. ■trump acted like he was afraid ofi just don't trust him at all. host: when you say in

independent candidate, does someone come to mind? caller: frankly, i don't know who's running. i haven't really seen any people that are running independent. even one of them is robert f. kennedy, jr.. is he someone you would support? caller: probably, yes. i think he would fight for the american people. hisa great president. his father robert was very tough. and he stood up for a lot of things. what happened in cuba and everything. host: new york state, democrats line, hello. caller: hello, pedro, how are

you? thanks for taking my call. we have a problem. yesterday, the ex-president and i hope you would say that, we only have one president at a time. the man is calling nikki haley, ok and nancyi about january 6. he didn't know where he was while he was speaking. he said joe biden would start world war ii. said he ran against barack obama. we have a problem, america. you want this draft dodger to be in the white house again?

i am a combat vietnamhe insulte? he had a bone spur.tm when he was asked which foot, he didn't know. host: the current president doe'ary background either. is that a concern? no, no, it's not a concern to me because my concern is he loved this country so much but he wouldn't fight for it. that's my concern. host: charles is next to marilyn, democrats line. caller: good morning. i am a naturalized and i am african. for the first time, i'm going to be voting.

trump. when i look at it, the democrats keep touting democracy. i look at what is going on in new hampshire right now. biden has stopped every democrat from voicing their opinion. he will be the only candidate pushing this election in new hampshire. it just becomes ironic that he talks about democracy but he doesn't want to allow people's voices to be heard. scared and i'm afraid. they keep pushing this idea of abortion every time. after abortion, then what?

we see -- still have children being taught all kinds of horrible things in school. these are issues that women care about, so why are we pushing abortion all the time? host: that is charles in maryland. today is the 51st anniversary of the roe v. wade decision supreme court. because of that, an ad from the biden administration highlighting that fact and targeting former president his . here is a bit of that. >> i am a mother of three woerful chdren. having this beautiful, chaotic, wonderful family is the joy of my life. i never thought i would need an abortion for a planned pregnanc b i did.two years ago,t with a baby i desperately

wanted. i had a routine ultrasound and learned the fetus would have a fatal condition and that there was no chance of survival. inyou are forced to carry that pregnancy, and that is because of donald trump overturning roe v. wade. way. i was putting my life at risk. it is every woman's worst nightmare and it was unbearable. we need leaders that will protect our rights and not take them away. that is joe biden and kamala harris. >> i am joe biden and i approve this message. host: former president trump tehes in new hampshire before the primary tomorrow. he will spend part of his day in new york city, going back to the granite state with those final events leading to the primary. you can watch that today at

9:00. more information forthcoming, but there is the information on the websitethis is from tom, ren line. you are next up. go ahead. >>■" i want to talk about what disqualifies joe biden from being president. presidency.ave his qualified him his daughter's diary had been stolen and said she was terrified because she would sneak -- he would sneak into the shower with her. that is a disqualifier for anybody to be president of the united states, to shower with your own daughter. host: that several times. caller: the fbi confirmed it was her diary. i believe it has been reported in major magazines, the

washington post i believe it was. host: let's hear from donna in illinois, independent line. hello? sorry, don in charlotte, north carolina. my mistake. go ahead. caller: i just wanted to say to make america great again is to never vote trump. oreally this is comical to even believe that americans would vote for this person, so i will definitely be voting for joe , someone that is sane and stable. host: michael in illinois my go-ahead. caller: i am glad the primaries are winding down and i cannot wait to see donald trump and joe biden stand up in front of the

united states electorate. they should hit every battleground state and do a debate and the two's mental competency, and really make a decision and move forward debats possible come up trump and biden , and lead us make a decision based on those debates, not that donald trump is like a cult following. let's actually see him and hear the two people and what their vision is for the future. host: edward in georgia, you are next. caller: that guy that was just on his right. what i want to do is talk to the young people and tell them this. when our country was formed, we had thebill of

rights. if you read the constitution or bill of rights, there is no democracy in the constitithere t constitution. the democrats are just making this stuff up. it is just crazy. host: suzanne from georgia, democrats line. caller: i'm calling about the ad you just ran because i became a democrat because of the rig■ of a woman being able to choose for herself what to do with her body , not having those guys in congress and the supreme court , so that took me right to the democratic vote and i do not agree with them either. i became an american citizen in 2008. to become a citizen, you pay a fee and i asked my friend questions.

they did not know any of the 13 original colonies. they did not know the right of every americano we do not vote in our country. we have 7000 people. 19% voted and it is sad that people will not vote and change the world. god bless america. one nation under god. united we stand, divided we fall. in matters of foreign policy, the washington post reporting iranian backed militants attacked an airbase housing u.s. troops got the latest incident targeting u.s. forces. militants fired rockets and ballistic missiles at the base around 6:30 local time.

most of the missiles were intercepted by the defense systems, adding some landed. at least one iraqi servicemember was wounded. u.s. personnel were being evaluated for respond for a request on whether u.s. troops were wounded. in west virginia, republican line. caller: hello. god asked me to call. he says he is voting fordoes noo be president to get rich like the clinton's and obama's and bidens. it makes him sad to see lies told by the media. remember, he is watching you. he will work for everybody, including the democrats. why are the democrats afraid of

him? are they afraid he going to do a better job? host: you said obama. caller: the clinton's and obama and biden. that corrupt. host: president biden is the current president. caller: yes, especially biden. host:'s go to gym in minnesota. caller: thank you for taking my call. i am a 90-year-old veteran and i am concerned about the killing s and two teachers were murdered. i am using your good line to that everybody listening email the president of the united states to issue an executive

order banning the sale of the ar-15. inue to have kids being killed and the slaughter. that would not have happened, those hundred policeman who stood by and watched would have gone in if they were not thinking■ the person inside has an ar-15, so call, right going get to biden, because congress is not going to do anything, at least this congress, because they are immobile. can have biden issue an executive -- thank you. host: that report from the justice department came out last week. the attorney general held a press conference on it. if you want to see his comments from the release of the report, we invite you to go to our website and watch that press conference that took place at

our website. a few more minutes of calls on this open forum. from john in long beach, california, republican line. >> good morning. it is nice to see you smile for once. i wanted to break down what is going on. what we have here in this have the elite guys and that branch of elites against the middle class, so they want to bring us into this new world order. ■x use all these they are letting in our country and they are the bottom. the bottom is going to rise up. thok and the top will come downn us. middle class be prepared. stock food.

bear arms. this year could be the year of chaos. host: lupe this open forum, california democrat line. caller: am i on? host: yes. caller: you did not say a name. what i want to mention -- can you hear me? host: go ahead. caller: would like to mention about the debate. is there any way they can suggest a partition you cannot see through when you are debating? i know it will be trump. where trump can stay in his area and not yell like he did. he is not going to care who he is debating. that is not going to be right. they could be in separate cubicles on the same stage, no matter what trump says or you cannot hear bidendoes have a sot

everyone is trump. but that is the only way. the questions that will be asked let one president speak for himself and then let trump speak. there should not be anti--- any wjrruptions because that frustrates me. i will be 78 and i am ticked off that people are yelling and it muffles d ear anything correctly. then other people call in and i cannot hear anything. all i want to know is that they stay on stage and let the people hear what they are saying. host: lupeopen forum. one more conversation stemming from new hampshire, taking a look at the primary. michael graham is joining us of the website insidesources and will talk to us about the latest news particularly with the decion bgovernor desantis to drop out of the race.

we will have that conversation, but first new hampshire state law requires that its primary be held before y other state and we had a chance to have a conversation with the author of the legislation about the reason foits creation and its impact. >> the first primary was held by default. no other state tried to take it away from us, but it was theyé 1970's. somebody talked about the relevance of being first, jumping ahead of new hampshire. >> fast-forward from 1920 to the 1970's. what was happening and why was the status of the new hampshire primary at risk? >> two reasons. 1968 and 1972.

1968, the vietnam war was going on. i was abody bags coming back frm vietnam. the 1960's were up people in hree assassinations in the 1960's and became like civil war among democrats in new hampshire because of the national politics the united state senator from minnesota decided to run and johnson did not put his name on the ballot and it was clear he was going to run again so the election in new hampshire was held in 1968, a snowy day. mccarthy ended up getting a pretty good vote. write-ins. a big write and effort was put

on for him but mccarthy did well. made his mark and that left a bad feeling for a lot of new hampshire democrats between one another. then 12 came around and we had a judge running in new hampshire. a lot of powers supported him. and he was considered the winner of the new hampshire primary, so at that point a lot of democrats , among those that that dividede party too much. they were not excited about the primary anymore. on the republican side, watergate took the excitement of national politics from new hampshire republicans. as 1975 came around, i think it was clear we were about to give

up our primary. so that is when i sponsor the law and it did not get immediate support. there was a lot of opposition. because of the bipartisan at, i was democrat, he was republican, he got some of the republicans to support it. we had democrats supporting it, so we ended up passing a law that said new hampshire shall be -- any other state. >> hampshire -- new hampshire look like now, had that not happened? >> in 1975 to have a primary. that had a lot of democrats in several neighboring states saying, let's do that. let's have a regional primary, including maine and vermont and new hampshire and massachusetts, perhaps connecticut, doing it on the same day.

there was some enthusiasm from national democrats to do that. national republicans thought that would be a good idea, but there were some people in new hampshire who wanted to make surethere were some republicans, despite watergate and the problems that brought to the national and local republican party, they wanted to be first too, so there was coalition there. in large part because of the bipartisanship we were able to generate. it is hard to do that now, but in those days kratz were able to talk with republicans. i talked with some republicans, including governor thompson. he was thinking of running for president and almost did. he supported the primary. he ended up endorsing ronald reagan, but a lot of>> what hape

is not first in the future? >> i think it will be. the new hampshire presidential primary has proven its value. it is amer dhost: we continue oe of the new hampshire primary with the managing editor of the new hampshire journal. thanks for giving us your time. guest:aphost: can you explain ae new hampshire journal, the political positions you take? guest: sure. it is a new hampshire based political outlet. we are center-right. we do not take an editorial position on any candidates. i am a political junkie. i did talk radio for years and had a chance to work so our audy informed. so i tell people if politico had

not very good, it would be new hampshire journal. host: the audience you have got you took a poll after the announcement yesterday of governor desantis dropping out. tell us what you found out. guest: we have a great asset. we have our readers. when the desantis news broke out, we sentut ack survey. we had about 300 responses. it is like a great focus group. the take away for■5 was 75% of our readers think donald trump is going to win tonight tomorrow'sj pthree out of four r readers. these are people who are into politics and the majority think he will brea%.that is key becauf the race is that if president

wins 50% in iowa and in new hampshire, it makes it hard for nikki haley or other candidates to say here is what i need to keep in the race. iowa, you guys did great coverage. i watched it. very rural. trump did well with that group. now you are in a state that is america's biggest suburb. boston is the primary economic engine, although manchester has growths ll.it is one of the higt college-educated educated states in the country and first or second on the least religious state in theountry, soouural ano suburban and not involved in religion regularly. if trump wins both of those, that would be a blow and what our readers were telling us.

we asked them, separate from how you feel about who you are going to vote for, which of the attacks do you think were the most significant? there was nothing overwhelming on trump. is he still mentally competent? that is something nikki haley has been hitting hard. can he beat joe biden? they were kind of an even mix. the nikki haley attack caught their attention. she is asupport her. that is one of the things we might look at wednesday. there has been coverage that i think is intended to be positive for nikki h about she is bringing in unaffiliated voters who usually vote in the democratic primary, people who do not like trump and are willing ronto the republican primary. if you are a republican, that can also sound like she is with the other team, helping the other team play in our primary. our readers said they thought that was the most effective attack trump has made on her and

one he ads and events around the state. host: according to the readers and reports he 22% say he will cost republican seats in congress. ill lose to joe biden, 18%. can you elaborate on that? guest: we give them five options. i think that shows people who are worried about trump are not laser focused on this, for example the chaos question. nikki haley has hitting that hard. her line is chaos follows him. there are plenty of republicans who want chaos. they look at washington, d.c. and go, they do not know doing. someone needs to shake them up, like he did before. they think one of the reasons

their lives got better, and there are metrics you caus thata blue-collar worker, in the lower parts of the economy, your wages went up at a faster pace. people go, that happened because he shook up the box. this is the other argument, which the reason why it is not working, and this is my opinion -- one reason why the electability argument is not working is joe biden. his polls are terrible. he has the lowest polling of any president at this point in their presidency in the modern era. polls show either he beats biden or ties with biden.when people n and you say cut trump cannot win, what do you mean? he is right now. that could have been a powerful argument.

it isument a candidate like haley, whose argument is i am going to get people outside the republican base, that could have worked, but with biden doing poorly, that has not worked out. host: our guest is with us until questions , you can do so. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. independents, (202748-02■+. you can text us at (202) 748-8003. it was probably referenced in the pool you took or maybe you have had other information or dialogue with yourthe former prn new york today attending one of his legal issues. play to new hampshire voters? guest: i think it is only:b addg

5% to 10% to his support and i am kind of joking but kind of not. if you look at the pngt pollste. emerson polling involved in other national polls. before the indictment last spring, trump and desantis, it was interesting. governor ron desantis was doing ok and from our readers and our coverage there was open conversation about ron desantis. heil■ got almost as many endorsements from statehouse members as trump. that is how much was and then the indictments came and continued and more and more republicans said this is not fair. they are not saying he did not do anything wrong. saying and other people did what he did they would get punished.

if i am is driving 80 and you pl me over, why did you pull me over? that is how they feel about trump. they all break the rules. look at joe biden. why are you picking on him? so that issue i have run into ve t supporters who say they are significantly impacted by the turmoil in the courthouse here in new hampshire. host: your secretary of state tells us voters and 262 them a voters, unaffiliated -- talk about that category. how are they factoring into tomorrow? guest: there has been some confusion in national news coverage. people are saying democrats cannot vote in the primary in new hampshire.

new hampshireas a semi-closed system, which means if you are a registered member of the other party you cannot vote in my p' primary. unaffiliated does not mean independent or swing. itnovoters are going i might bea republican today and democrat tomorrow. they are overwhelmingly republicans and democrats who do not want to register as a member of their party for whatever reason. about 253,000 always either vote functional republicans and democrats, no matter what hat they wthose functional democrats really cross over and vote in the republican primary and vice versa, so they cust do not ofte. the nikki haley bet is we can get democrats -- self identified

democrats to come over and some of the messaging is explicit. this is your last chance to stop donald trump from being president. that is obviously not true. you are not going to vote for him tober. the haley campaign is making that call, comcast and early vote against donald trump. and those unaffiliated, the question will be can't do they respond? can you change the voter base? the secretary of state releases estimate for turnout. he think that will be 322,000 votes. new hampshire has about half the polati of iowa and they are expecting twice the voter turnout. that is another reasowhw hampshire is a first in the nation primary. this is a high voter turnout state. what they call the voting age

population. some states have low voter registration. theyon spot, but i do not think it will be a time -- as high as the secretary of state suggests because i think news that trump continues to do well in the polls and has crossed 50% in every pull ~, to say we alreadyd some people are going to say, what is the point? she does not have a chance. they will still have record turnout, but some of the talk that there might be 350,000 turnout, i will be stunned if that happens but i have been stunned before. host: michael graham of the new hampshire journal. let's hear from wanda, first up for our guest. go ahead. caller:republican because that d

have been my way of giving back. that is what i thought republicans were giving back, so that is what i thought i was going to want to be a republican, but heard a lot republicans in the senate and congress, even with the ng back. that differed me from wanting to be a republican. donald trump, when he was running for president, he was asking -- asked to sign something that said he would not run as a democratñ or be democratic in any way. that -- i was just wondering, what changed his minfr being a democrat to a republican? do you know? guest: first, i am jealous

because you are in chattanooga, home of the moon pie, one of the greatest food items ever invented by humankind.it is a b. i live in new york when donald trump was a big media player and you are right. if you asked people back in the day, you would have assumed he was a democrat. t makes covering the trump phenomenon difficult for traditional political reporters. have these preset ideas of this is what republicans do. take the issue social security. republicans were saying, have to do something about it. you need to make some changes, may some adjustments. donald trump sounds as much like joe biden on that issue as anybody else. don't make any chang not the ren

stance, yet it is the stance he uses to bring voters who do not think of themselves as republicans into his'r fold and one of the real challenges for the people who want to run against him. he is dipping the democrat well for blue-collar workers. democrats look at the way trump runs and saying, there are a lot of suburban3 people with colledd they do not like that trump attitude. they do not like that he talks like a blue-collar guy, so democrats are picking up more of those suburban voters and swapping voters and changing the makeup of the parties. host: this is jan on our republican line. caller: i am so glad to talk today. listening to a my stomach

and heart were hurting. trump did not do anything for our democracy. obama took -- they checked everything he was doing and i live in arizona. . arnie, the borders are open. we are terrified here. you do not want hiinhampshire, e want 10 million more? we have lived with it our whole life. i have gone to school with illet was fine, but just a few. they came legal. it isconstitution, you stop at e first country you come to and then you try to get in the united states. yoi am so tired of this and trup is not a dictator. he has never been a dictator. weght a new truck the other

day and there is something on the truck called onstar that we had to have because they want to know where your times. who did that to our country? host: let's take what is the gee toward it? guest: in new hampshire, immigration is pulling at the number one issue for republican primary voters and i know that seems odd. new hampshire, how far as i for mexico? as governor chs su h has been a surge of crossings from the northern border and of people who are on the terrorist watch is a spark. another thing is high profile incidents in new hampshire, for exampleé a gentleman from brazil

who allegedly took part in a mass murderer in priscilla and was convicted was found living in new hampshire a few months ago and seized by police. last week, you had a story of someone chargedabusing a mentald person in boston. ir because the person was here illegally and the judge under the sanctuary philosophy said we are not going to recognize your someone. and they release ts those are the kind of stories people are reading in new hampshire and is having an impact on the electorate. also, the argument about chaos. nikki haley said donald trump is the candidate of chaos and i think tother voters say look ate chaos we have gotten since biden was in office.

you are adding the population of new hampshire in illegal immigrants every year. that is the chaos. because trump is tough, whatever your description is, his supporters the way he leads keeps our enemies at bay and he will make a difference. so immigration adds to that chaos debate going on with voters now. host: you mentioned your state's govern. of his support nikki haley and what happens if nikki haley is not a contender anymore? guest: first, governorhampshirea state that has no republicans in the federal delegation. even though democrats regularly compete for control of the statehouse. they have 400 people

state house of representatives, the third-biggest elected body in the english-speaking world. he is still popular because republicans like him and independents like him and even democrats like him, so werful pr connecting with people. he does not have a big machine cut not like back in the day when he could turn on his machine and send them out. governor sununu has been able to get the media to follow him. he is great on camera and he is a talented politician. he hits the stage and the crowd perks up. those college-educated voters who nikki haley really needs. that is his sweet spot. if nikki haley breaks 40%, chris sununu will be declared -- i will give you a preview. -- new hampshire journal will

declare him one of the winners if she breaks 40%. if she gets close to 20%, it may hurt him somewhat, but the view in new hampshire is nikki haley's success is -- she had some getting her to 40% has been the help of governor chris sununu. host: alexandria, virginia, line for democrats. caller: you kind of stole my question. ■ comment. donald trump has not paid his taxes, if we want to talk about people doing illegal things in thcountr■u with desantis and for that -- vivek being against donald trump and then supporting him, do you think nikki haley will support him?

if donald trump and joe biden have a rematch, what do you think the plan is once donald trump loses? i believe he was at the height of his popularity around the election time and he lost. sending him up for another loss. what government building will they attack next? +-er. guest: i do not know about plans for attacking government buildings.ver that beat. your question about the possibility of a rematch and what nikki haley does, i assume reporters like to talk about it. everybody backs the party nominee. that is what happens. joe biden came in fifth in new hampshire. he could hardly buy votes, when he got to south carolina

amy klobuchar, who suggested he was too old■ on board and supported him here and that is what happens. of course nikki haley will back her party primary. of course chris sununu, who does not like donald trump, will endorse donald trump if he is the nominee. are they going to be happy abo no. when john kerry was the democrat nominee, they were democrats who were not thrilled about it. that is the nature of partisan politics and it has gotten more so because the most powerful force in negative partisanship. i do not care about whether i win as much as i want to make sure you lose. so republicans and draready to r because they are afraid of doing something that might let the other team win. that is why joe, despite

his poor pulling numbers, democrats are rallying with him. they do not want to open the door for anything that might look like it is helping trump. it is negative partisanship. make sure the other guy loses. ho: a question from a viewer in florida. because of the right in of this primary, will there be a delay in results? host: --guest: the democrat natl committee decided last year they wanted to take iowa and new hampshire out of the front of the line because they argued new hampshire and iowa are not diverse enough. because they said the democratic primary voters were too white, their words, they wanted to change it. new hampshire did not play along. the state law says, we will go a

week before any similar contest. south carolina, they have to go at least a week before the south carolina primary and every democrat in the state supported it. now joe biden says i will not be in the ballot. he was in massachusetts a few weeks ago. not a chance. he says new hampshire is off the table. no joe biden. he is not on the ballot. on the ballot. what do you do? the democrats in new hampshire think the best way.tnc try to g, so they have mounted a right in effort and gotten tens of thousands of dollars to try to up and write in joe biden tuesday. we have two --ates, but two dece people have heard of.

one is minnesota congressman dean phillips, who has been out every day campaigning. lots of social media ads. polls say he could get cse t 20% and then marianne williamson, a well-known author and motivational speaker, she is running again and has beentheret the delayed results. they the voting folks every year to keep them fresh on the rules and processes. done with the republican votes and everything is clean and you have reconciled it but you are still hand counting democratic ballots because they have right in and it is going to be another hour or two, go ahead if you have permission to release them.

i would expect to see mixed results. large urban releasing republican results maybe at 9:00 but not releasing democrat results until 10:00 or 11:00.■ some people will go, what is going on? is the nature of one set of ballots, very easy to for the machine. another, you have to look and there are other things going on. a former candidate for governor ■vhere has organized a group of people. they want progressives to write in cease fire on the ballot to protest israel's war with hamas and president biden's support for israel. republicans early on responded, do not write in biden. right in bozo■ do not reward him for trying to steal

the primary. make him have a bad day. maybe four years ago, democrats might think differently not wane it away again. so now you have a situation where a local official is a scrawl and you have to figure out, is it biden? so the secretary of state has done a good job training the local folks here in their guidance is if you can determine the intent of the voter, we want to count the votes. we want people o heard, so they will have a liberal interpretation of the write in signatures tuesday night. host: when it comes to south carolina versus new hampshire, do you see a time wher back as w

hampshire's priorguest: that isn and something we will be covering a lot. what should new hampshire■ do? democrats have taken it away by insulting the democratic primary voters. they have said you cannot be trusted to vote and give fair shake to candidates of caller, they voted for barack obama twice. i think thatvoters. but that is the message the dnc gave. can they fight back and restoreo say in front? i am friends with the south carolina congressman who helps joe biden win that big turnaround win in 2020.

south carolina was not pushing for the change. new hampshire is hungry for it. south carolina, meh. if new hampshire democrats confront this argument being made by the aoc side of the democratic are not trustworthy,f they will step up and push back, i think it can come back. this is my opinion now. i think it was a mistake for new hampshire democrats to let the dnc treat their■r■c voters this. that democrats would not push and defend the primary. they lost it once and could forever. host: mike on our independent line. interesting guest to

have on, i guess a right-wing pundit. he brought up a good point on the 2016 election when biden was in fifth. bernie sanders by the dnc. even barack obama would not talk to allan to drop out and put thr backing behind biden. it would be interesting to see if bernie sanders would have won, if biden would havloif thid have gone on as long. even after months of videos of innocent men, women, and children think slaughtered by our bullets. he is going to lose. ■li do not know why is trying to have another showoff with red maga.

i am not going to vote. if i do vote, it will probably be for cornell west. guest: i will taken element of israel, ukraine, and other foreign policy issues, how much interest to your readers and new hampshire voters in general? host: he said he would vote cornell west and not robert f. kennedy, jr., who polls around 10%. there is definitely interest from republicans and democrats in rfk junior. i attended an event with scott brown. he hosted his no nbs -- no bs barbecues. foreign policy is part of the coer1dtion. definitely republicans who are most passionate about their opposition to nikki haley, that

is on the short list, ukraine, getting involved in foreign wars. when you read the comments current one of the most common was about nikki: haley and foreign aid, so the populist group of voters, who voted for pat buchanan and gave him 40% of the vote and shook up that race, those voters are now 30 years older and with donald trump. at the same time, their support for israel among the greater population of new hampshire. an israeli company has a facility in new hampshire and were recently hit by vandals breaking windows and all that stuff. bipartisan reaction at the state level from legislators.

it was not a partisan thing. it was, this is wrong. these people work here. israel is our friend even if we do not agree with everything they do. so if you're running in newhampl candidate, you are going to limit your appeal on both sides of the aisle. this is from san antonio, texas. caller: i want to know what affect you think polling has on voters. we had hillary clinton. v■ypeople who listens to the pos believed -- right? guest: that is a great question and it is a dilemma because you could argue that polling is shaping tpeople hear the polls.

if you have lower-than-expected turnout in new hampshiren tuesday night, as i am thinking, in part it will be because of the series of daily tracking polls that show his lead growing. 45%. they called it the goal post. for 2023, he was at the goalpost and no one could get close. that has shifted closer to 55%. will tt impact what vosome voter what but a lot people are pragmatic. i could be going to have■swork 0 minutes. polls can have an impact. at the same time, voters also want t know, am i part of something bigger or alone out here? ■l appeared, you could say -- imagine trump with no polling. would people still back him?

once polls start showing he could win, then he took off, not because polls changed opinions but the cave -- becausethem a p. this is not a wild chance. there are other people who agree . that affects people. i think polling is a two edged sword and inevitable. there is no way around it. host: grace in massachusetts, democrat line. caller: governor sununu has niki haley and obviously has national aspirations. do you think this will help or hinder him? guest: if she outperforms, it helps him. if she underperforms, it is a setback. reviews are that he is really good at campaigning.

the crowd likes him. he has done 100 interviews so far on behalf of nikki haley, so he is good at being chrishe had. senate. republicans begged him to run. he probably would have beaten the incumbent democrat. he chose not to run. he thought about running for president. what i would say is, 12028 rolls around, there will be people wh? his term ends this year. he is not running for reelection. he will be a gujob. we will see what that job is. i would not be surprised if it involves television or corporate. he has kids approaching college age. he has to pay those bills.

hen experienced businessman and chose public service, so we shall see. i would not be surprised if in 2028 involved chris sununu. host: independent line, sarah. ■=-:>> i believe in the second d met and women's rights over their own bodies. i encourage all independents to vote against donald trump and joe. neither of these guys should be in the race. joe biden is too old and has pledged allegiance to a foreign government.donald trump has triw our country and is a known narcissistic psychopath. ■aas far as the israeli thing goes, i support israel as a country, but i do not support

israel's genocide against the palestinian people. so for joe biden to pledge allegiance to a foig from this race. most christians and muslims, if they are real christians, jews and muslims, believe in the 10 commandments. treat people the way you want to be treated. innocent women and children have be, but my government is still supporting him. and said the other day there is more work to be done. more hospitals to be bombed? host: we will have our guest ■respd. i'm curious who she is going to vote for. it comes back to the cornell west question. without a doubt, you have foreign policy fights going on. progressives, some in new

hampshire who are upset a biden's policy toward israel and then the america first, isolationist republicans who are looking at donald trump and ron desantis and they are unhappy although they tend to be more supportive of israel thanne fig. this has been part of american politics forever. about our rightful place in the world. after world war two, it changed because we were the only superpower and weinvolved and te rising threat of the soviet union. at that point, the math made sense tos and reagan put together his coalition of voters. they liked lower taxes and strong defense, america spreading democracy around the world. what your caller is saying is something being hurt a lot

ac-#ross politics in new hampshire. host: what are you watching for tonight and communicating tomorrow? gues tomorrow night. this is monday, right? host: of course. guest:,b for all i know, it is 2027. the magic number is 50%. if donald trump breaks 50%, does it matter if nikki haley is at 38 or 38? i do not know that it does. that gives them such a strong argument to make. the other thing i'm looking at is joe biden's results with the right in effort. this would be unusual based on the data we have, but there is a possibility that tuesday night donald trump in a contested primary will get 60% of the vote or more and joe biden become the

president with not a real contested primary could get less than 60%. imagine what it is goingo larger share of the vote in his primary then joe biden. we have already gotten our headline written if it happens. trump beats biden in new hampshire. so those are the two things we are watching. host: how can people findou guest: nhjournal.com. if you are interested in new hampshire we -- if you're not interested in new hampshire politics, do not get it. we are going to be continuing our extensive coverage. one more thing. concord not concorde.