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host: good morning. it is wednesday, january 24, 2024. donald trump defeated nikki haley in the first in the nation primary. it continues the former president's march to the presidential nomination. nikki haley declared the this morning on "washington journal," we are getting your reactions. democrats, it is (202) 748-8000 to call in. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. you can also send us a text. that number is (202) 748-8003. if you do, please include your name and where you are from. otherwise, catch up with us on social media on x, facebook at facebook.com/c-span. very good wednesday morning to you.

you can go ahead and start calling in. here is where the associated press has the latest results from new hampshire at this hour. 88% reporting. donald trump has defeated nikki haley by more than 11%. 54.5% of 43% for the former governor of south carolina. tuesday's democratic prima unsanctioned by the national party, and president biden ed on right in votes -- writ e- votes. he still won handily. it is fair to assume he will pick up the lions share of the 14% of unprocessed write-in ballots that are still being recorded. we can talk about either race in the first hour of "washington journal." go ahead and start calling in now. last night on the republican side, donald trump was declared the winner of the new hampshire primary shortly after 8:00 p.m. eastern, but it was nikki haley who took the stage first to talk to her supporters. this is some of what she had to say.

[video clip] >> i want to congratulate donald trump on his victory tonight. he earned it and i want to acknowledge that. now, you have all heard the chatter among the political class. they are falling all over themselves saying this race is over. i have news for all of them. new hampshire is first in the nation. it is not the last in the nation. this race is far from over. there are dozens of states left to go. and the next one is my sweet state of south carolina.

at one point in this campaign, there were 14 of us running and we were at 2% in the polls. well, i am a fighter. and i'm scrappy. and now, we are the last ones standing next to donald trump. and today, we got close to half of the votes. we still have a ways to go, but we keep moving up. host: nikki haley last night in new hampshire. she mentioned the south carolina primary coming up. the republican primary does not take place until february 24. back to new hampshire last night.

donald trump later that evening came out and addressed some of what nikki haley had to say. here is the former president from last night. [video clip] >> let me just tell you we had an unbelievable week last week in iowa. we set a record. it was the best in the history of the carcass. in the history. i remember i sort of had the same feeling. i am up and watching and said she is taking a victory lap. we beat her so badly, but ron beat her also. ron came in second, and he left. she came in third, and she is still hanging around. the other thing, she only got 25% of the republican votes. i don't know if you saw that. tremendous numbers of independents came out because in this state you have a governor that doesn't frankly know what he is doing in the state. in the republican primary, they accept democrats to vote in fact, i think they had 50

democrats vote. they only vote because they want to beat me look as bad as possible. we won in 2016 and if you want to remember, we also won in 2020 by more. and we did much better in 2020 then we did in 2016, but as they said, we lost by a whisker, just buy a whisker. no, no, but we can't let that happen. you have to have people that speak up. i said i can go up and say to everybody thank you for the victory, it is wonderful, or i can go up and say, who the hell was the imposter that went up on the stage before and claimed a victory? she did very poorly actually. host: former president trump just a few hours ago in new hampshire after that race was

called by the associated press and the former president up by more than 11% at this point with close to 90% reporting. getting your reaction to the first in the nation primaries in new hampshire. (202) 748-8000 for democrats to call in. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. as the number. let me show you some headlines first from today's paper the day after the much anticipated new hampshire primary. the new york their front page, done it again, trump won new hampshire. surging haley vows to fight on. some political analysis from various papers, first from the washington post this morning. a general election rematch against biden brought into focus, the headline of his piece today.

from the wall street journal this morning, it is all over but the general election. one more from the "washington post" as well. the republican primary is over. get ready for a grim rematch. we will go throu some of that analysis this morning, but we mostly want to hear from you on phonlis as usual. democrats, republicansan independents, especially lookin for new hampshire voters and residents as well to call in, but we are hearing from members acrossheountry starting in wisconsin. this is harvey onine for democrats. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call seems to me it is pretty apparent that a lot of tim's tim scott, ramaswamy, they are pandering th not looking out for the average person but it is about personal movement. thank you for taking my call. host that is harvey in

wisconsin. paul is in the bronx in new york good morning. caller: i don't want to say it is fegone conclusion trump will win again but it looks like it. he never had a chance to go against the other primary contestants, but everybody seems to be dropping out, so at this point, it is looking like trump and biden in 2024. host: what do you think happens in trump versus biden 2 and 2024 if that is the case? caller: another close call to where it comes down to a handful of states that either remain blue or turn purple once again, such as arizona and georgia. i don't see anybody who voted for biden last time jumping away from voting for biden in 2024. it might come down to we just have to keep trump out again.

this time, the numbers will probably even bigger, which will cause trump to suddenly say election fraud this and that, but it will be more people coming in to say we don't want this guy back here again for another four years. host: you think that will be the biggest thing driving democratic voters in 2024, not having trump again? i ask because this is a week in which democrats highlighted the abortion issue, the anniversary of the roe v. wade decision. and a lot of expectation around that being a key campaign issue. caller: for me, abortion will be the main campaign issue. i don't see just democrats coming out to support that but i see republicans coming out. same with independents. this was his whole campaign. we did not like it. people in various different states -- trump was spearheading

most of that, so this will be another chance for them to say we don't want that. i don't immigration will come up as another issue, but that more or less will come down to what will trump do differently he did not do during the first four years? host: that is paul in the bronx. president biden was the write-in campaign. it was an unsanctioned primary in new hampshire and of him for deciding to move ahead with its first in the nation primary anyway. the president did not campaign in new hampshire ahead of this primary. yesterday, he was in manassas, virginia, talking about abortion rights at a 2024 campaign rally. here is the headline from "the wall street journal." in a state where democrats took control of the legislature in november following a campaign that focused on the issue of abortion access, this was the president yesterday at that rally in virginia. [video clip] >> did anyone think this is

where america was going in 2024? i can go on. look, let there be no mistake, the person most responsible for taking away the freedom in america is donald trump. listen to what he says. trump says he is proud he overturned roe v. wade. he said "there has to be punishment woman exercising reproductive freedom." he describes the decision as a miracle. for american women, it is a nightmare, so let's be clear what trump is bragging about. the reason there are 21 states with abortion bands, no exception for rape or any other or incest is donald trump. the reason women are forced to

travel out of state -- >> four more years. >> this will go on for a while. they got this planned. [laughter] the reason women are being forced to travel across state lines for health care is donald trump. the reason their family members tried to get help with threat of prosecution is because of donald trump. the reason their fundamental right has been stripped away is donald trump. because of donald trump, doctors are fleeing their home states, sitting up practices in other states because they are afraid they will be put in prison if they exercise their responsibilities. in states like texas, doctors can get a life sentence for providing the care they were trained to provide. it is outrageous. host: president biden yesterday

in manassas, virginia. you saw him pause and address the crowd and the chants of "four more years." that is because during that speech yesterday, the president repeatedly interrupted by shouts from roughly a dozen protesters against the president's support for israel and its war in gaza. that happened yesterday in manassas, virginia, just outside of washington, d.c. back to your phone calls in the wake of the new hampshire primary, getting your reactor this morning on "washington journal." this is moses, an independent in brooklyn, new york. good morning. caller: good morning. i think abortion is going to be a big issue. in this election. and i think maybe somebody should ask the democrats why margaret sanger founded planned parenthood to exterminate black

people, ok. and someone should ask harris why her family owns plantations. she is always blaming white people for slavery when her own family owns slaves and plantations. host: that is moses in brooklyn. this is rodney in indiana, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. how are you doing, sir? host: good. what were your thoughts on new hampshire last night? caller: trump got the win. nikki haley needs to step aside. need to get america back on track, and i believe donald trump will be the man to do it. host: rodney, with some $31 million according to reports that nikki haley spent in new hampshire, and this was marco rubio yesterday just after 9:00 p.m. eastern sagan will be trump as the nominee but we don't know how much donor money will be

sted over the next month. what are your thoughts if nikki haley takes this to south carolina four and a half weeks from now and if she continues through more and more states? caller: i remember they were saying she had some big -- i don't think she will get the backing that she needs. i think she wrote in her own state. host: you think this is as far as this will go? caller: i believe so. i think south carolina will be the end of the line for nikki haley and i highly doubt she will come forward and endorsed trump herself, but i am hopeful. that is all we could do is hope right now. our nation is in disarray. our borders are open. we are being flooded with fentanyl and illegal aliens that we don't know who they are or where they come from. it is pretty scary.

there could be sleeper cells all over these united states just waiting for the phone call. you know, all we could do is pray and prepare. host: that is rodney in indiana. donald in west virginia, independent, good morning. caller: good morning, john. no big surprises last night. the attacks will come hot on trump now. they hate him because he showed how corrupt it all is, and no better proof of that then the story blowing up on twitter about the gop chair of arizona trying to bribe terry lake. but what strikes me more than anything is what cnn and msnbc are not reporting. you would think they would be drooling over a story like that. that is all i have to say this morning. host: what do you think happened with this -- happens with this

republican primary weaving forward with nikki haley vowing to stay in? caller: i don't think she will win south carolina. she is wasting her time. my honest opinion. host: donald in west virginia. is is carl in west virginia via our text msaging service saying, i will vote for nikki haley in the primary. if it comes down to a rematch, god help us. i will definitely vote for donald trump. this from dave on facebook saying a good win tonig. time for president trump to ignore haleynd put his energy towards november. this from mark on faceok great to see haley get under trump's skin. would love to sehedestroy him in debate. he refuses to debate anyone. he spends all his time reading teleprompters at his rallies and still flpi his lines. a few of our comments from

social media. facebook, x formerly known as twitter. and it is (202) 748-8003 if you want to send a text message this morning. the story that the caller from west virginia was referring to, the hill newspaper with this headline. to relate called on the arizona gop chair to resign after reports of leaked audio. this up late last night on the hill's website. a recording surface of the chair appearing to offer money in exchange for not running for office. he has to resign. we can't have somebody who is corrupt and compromised running the republican party. the recording first was referred to the daily mail and purports to capture do with offering lake money in exchange for her staying out of politics but two years but the authenticity of the recording not verified by

the hill newspaper. that story breaking overnight, with the caller was referring to. to tennessee, this is jerry in livingston, democrat. good morning. caller: yes sir. thank you for taking my call this morning. i think donald trump is going to close it out pretty quick, but the problem is it is not donald trump, it is the whole issue taking women's rights away from them. if donald trump is reelected, women's rights and social security are the two first things on the chopping block. people cannot survive that kind of stuff so if you vote for donald trump, you vote against your wife and your girls. that is all i have to say about it. i was so disappointed in him last night to stand up there.

i thought he was a pretty good man, but this is unbelievable what they are doing. i thank you very much, and have a good day. host: that is jerry in tennessee. from new jersey, independent, good morning. caller: thank you. i just really wanted to say propaganda versus reality. that is how great he is. we have to follow that line. if the economy was so bad, there would not be five supermarkets. there would not be seven gas stations full of people filling of gas. all the casinos are full of people. the sky is not falling. government runs by the people. not like donald trump will come in and everything will magically happen. it happens because of taxpayers

and people sitting there getting the job done. the lasting i want to say about immigration is if we did not have immigration, so at least these people do bring something to america. thank you. host: i take if you are not a fan of the campaign slogan make america great again. caller: it is hollow rhetoric. we know that government is running when you don't hear about it. every time we have to hear more and more a loud voice going on is because they are not bringing anything to the table. government runs when it is a quiet think in the background. it is your neighbors. it is your neighbors, your family members. these people are like the scientists and engineers and

administrators. this is how we landed people on the moon. in my town right now, we are building. we got new sewers coming in to handle the rainwater. they are replenishing the dunes so we are not flooding. this is what government does. that is not just mussolini sticking his chin up there. it is qualified people making things happen. host: that is edward out of new jersey. again, here are the numbers from the associated press. 88% at this hour. i'll trump winning new hampshire 54% to 43.2%, just more than 11%. some of the polls heading into new hampshire had the president in the upper teens or even 20's ahead of nikki haley. the final margin looking to be closer than originally expected. the new york times notes no

republican candidate ever won the first two states and not ultimately succeeded in securing the presidential nomination. one other stat from james pinto on twitter last night, no nonincumbent gop cdite for president has ever won the iowa caucuses and new hampshire primary until last night, until donald trump. gary in jacksonville, florida, democr. good morning. caller: good morning, john. good to talk to you again. i have threes. i will never be a republican. everyone talks about the bor 2017, donald trump -- they had it on the senate. donald trump squashed it. donald trump squashed it. that is on the republicans. number two, john, the assault weapons. when they rescinded the assault weapons that president clinton

had signed, they have blood on their hands with all of these deaths. the number one killer of children now, these assault weapons and rifles. it is a national disgrace. number three, the leading candidate from the republican party a convicted rapist, tax fraud, who stole documents, shared them with individuals in a staff member. he said he does not believe in the constitution. no nothing republicans, john. thank you. host: your first point was on the border issue. let's talk about what's happening in the senate right now. ongoing negotiations. we keep getting told a final deal is close on border security, a deal that could unlock additional aid for ukraine. what are your thoughts on that? caller: well, john, biden had a proposal on day one.

the republicans did not want to come to the table. they don't want to compromise. they don't want to solve the crisis because they want to use it politically in november. host: that is gary in jacksonville, florida. leaving new hampshire for a second, coming up here to capitol hill, it was at the weekly tuesday press conference that mitch mcconnell was talking with the congressional press corps. he was asked about the border security deal and aid for ukraine. here is about a minute and a half of what he had to say. [video clip] >> politics eating -- election-year politics heating up. at what point does this ukraine aid package after get done? >> months ago. obviously, i think you know how strongly i feel about the international challenges we have an ever need to address them.

i feel we have a southern border . we are working hard continuously to try to get a solution on the border part of it. i think this is the ideal time to do it. i think all of you know the politics around here. if this were not divided government, we would not have an opportunity to do anything about the border. in fact, i don't think we would get 60 votes for any border plan if we had a fully republican government, so this is a unique opportunity. we are a divided government -- a divided government has given us an opportunity to get an outcome. virtually all of our members have said to their constituents for a long time we need to fix the border. this administration is not going to do it unless we force them to, and we are going to continue to press and try to get an

outcome that we can put on the floor of a majority up with all of these other problems that need to be addressed. the number one country in the world who elects its own leadership's. host: mitch mcconnell yesterday on capitol hill. becky new hampshire. that is the topic of the first hour on "washington journal." the first in the nation primaries. both the republican primary and the unsanctioned democratic primary, unsanctioned by the democratic national committee. it was a writing campaign that president biden won handily. jay in mississippi is next, independent. good morning. caller: yes, sir. good morning to you. i hear people calling in and getting on number 45 there. they don't like the kind of

drinks he drinks, the diet coke. they got a problem with everything a man does, but the man is going to be the next president, so he will be 45 and 47, too. that is just the way i see it. have a good day. host: to paul from across the pond in england this morning. good morning to you. caller: good morning to you. host: do occasionally have called in in the past, correct? caller: i called in the past. host: a watcher of u.s. politics. thank you for calling this morning. caller: i follow the politics. especially the war is going on, but regarding the election results, i think donald trump might win the next one. it looks like he could win the

election. you never know. you think he will win the next election? host: what do you think? caller: i think so. he might do it. looks like he is on the way to the white house. the others don't stand a chance to be honest. host: was the double trump presidency good for our relationship with trump? caller: i think it was before because there were not any wars the last time donald trump was in power. you just don't know, but if he kept the peace -- but he kept the peace last time he was in the office. you never know. host: donald trump has said he could be the one to end this war in ukraine. you believe that? caller: he could do it. he could.

yeah. nothing is being done. the thing is happening and there is no breakthrough. host: how much attention are your neighbors in england paying to this 2024 election? caller: they are concerned about the wars, obviously. and the cost of living also. it concerns people when it comes to the cost of living and these wars. the cost of living in the shops and that. host: thanks for the call from england. appreciate when you call it. caller: thank you. host: evelyn a bit closer to home from baltimore, maryland, democrat. good morning. caller: good morning, john. about this new hampshire and trump won him hampshire, but you don't have to win iowa or new

hampshire to win the presidency. everybody is putting everything in to these two, the carcass in new hampshire -- caucus in new hampshire. every four years when there is an election, republicans use certain things to campaign on. abortion, homosexuality, and the border. all the time, they do it every four years. the president cannot do much of nothing without the house and senate. so he will say what he will do will not work. has anybody heard of jim jones at the kool-aid he got people to drink because they were so up into him? it is hitler's all over again. host: how much attention are you paying to the democratic primary? there were other candidates running against joe biden last night new hampshire, including

dean phillips, the democratic congressman from minnesota. what were your thoughts on the democratic primary? caller: the democratic primary -- i always think it seems like the incumbent, it is a democrat incumbent that nobody wants to run against him. if anybody is out there to run, i think they all should run. i don't think it should just be given to the incumbent. host: it is a good thing the president is facing a primary is what you are saying? caller: yes. host: that is evelyn out of baltimore, maryland. dean phillips made his remarks to supporters last night after the race was called for president biden. here is about two minutes of what he had to say. [video clip] >> solutions to president biden, who absolutely won tonight, but by no means in a way that a strong incumbent president should. but he won.

i want to congratulate former president trump for winning tonight as well haley just said she has been here working for a year. we have been at this for 10 weeks, my friends. and we just got -- [cheering] we decided to weeks before the october 27 deadline to come up to concord, right a 35,000 dollar check. so we became a presidential candidate. we just got 20% tonight and nobody knew we were weeks ago. nobody. thank you, everybody. i got to say, man, if we had 20 weeks, watch the heck out. i am not going to tell you what i am going to do next until the end of my remarks but i also want to send some love to all of you. all of you. i have to tell you the last 90

days of my life have been reinvigorating, re-inspiring, energizing, and also. you greatest leaders practice democracy like no other state in this entire country. and the fact that the party i represent would have the audacity to take that from you and would have the audacity to say that this was meaningless, no. your votes tonight were the most meaningful votes you ever cast in your life and i will make a promise to you because i will use them going forward. and no party in this country, democratic, republican, or otherwise, no party should ever receive a letter from one of our 50 states attorney general them a cease and desist for the unlawful suppression of voters. they did not suppress you, thank goodness, but they sure did a lot of people. so i am here to say, you ready to keep this baby going? i sure as heck am.

host:, dean phillips -- dean phillips, representative from minnesota. again, the president was running a write-in campaign or at least his surrogates were. 87% reporting from the associated pre. the president wer 50%. you see that line at ttom, unprocessed write-ins it isaito assume president biden will win the lion's share se numbers. thosere write-in ballots that the name has yet to be recorded of who they wrote inor but again, you could expect that with this pretty ext write-in campaign by the president's supporters. thmajority of those will evly go into the joe biden category. you can read the associad press numbers. it is a bit confusing. this year, it is different. getting your reaction as well to last night's vote new hampshire

in the granite state. this is charlie in minnesota, independent. good morning, you are next. caller: how is it going there? host: how is it going for you? caller: not too bad, buddy. you know, dean phillips did a good job there for the little time he was. yeah, he is out of minnesota. don't really know the guy, but i would rather vote for him over biden my will tell you that right now. host: why is that, charlie? caller: if anybody can't see, including all democrats and all the independents, joe biden has done absolutely nothing good for this country, period. i listen to your show nonstop. i listen to everybody. i don't know if they have a chip in their head or what the heck

is going on with this world. two roe v. wade. -- we will go to roe v. wade. biden used that to death tonight. he had the calculus in there at all he could say was four more years. they should have got the lady up and let her talk of why she does not believe in abortion. 15 weeks is plenty enough if you were raped or you were in a bad situation. a lot of people that get abortions are young girls that don't want to face their parents. all parents need to take their kids, their girls, not their boys -- well with any to tell their boys to stay away from the girls obviously, but they need to take their girls, bring them inside, and say a something like this would happen to you, i want you to be able to come to me. tell me that you are pregnant. we will handle this the right way.

instead of aborting this child. we are bringing in all of these aliens into this country consistently, and it is just overwhelming and it is all biden's fault. he wants to blame everything on trumped nonstop. everybody on the democratic side just don't like trump. i don't get why. host: that is charlie out of minnesota. to maryland. angie also on the in the line. caller: good morning. how are you? thank you for taking my call. i will follow up with what the last guy said. it is totally unbelievable to me. i was not surprised about rhode island last night. host: new hampshire. caller: i'm sorry, new hampshire. that is just where we are with the trump crew. the sky is falling and the bogeyman is going to get you.

i am from the maryland area, and i watched sometimes i call at the propaganda channel, fox news. i see how they display people of color from the area. and folks not from here will not leave our young blacks are going out and doing snatch and grab at the target area where the truth is we are the most educated, wealthiest group of people in america, people of color, black. our kids are educated. our kids are doing great things. while they are watching that, even in my own family, we have kids from the ipo lead to the university of michigan doing well. it just blows my mind the things i hear on this channel, and i decided to call him because i had to say something. the belief that some folks have, wondering why everybody -- it is

not that trump is republican. as a criminal. that she is a criminal. the hypocrisy. but trump has done everything under the sun. i have people that work in corporate federal government. i have people that were on the hill on january 6 saving democracy. host: a police officer, angie? caller: yes. i am not going to give the name but he was one of the ones who received a congressional medal of honor. they were so shortstaffed, everybody had to go. i will just say my house smells like hairspray for weeks. i don't know who is driving this. you can say it is not racism, but we have deducted that it is racism because the people who believe in trump, the man -- come on. host: you are independent but it

seems like you have made your choice in 2024. caller: yes. let me say this real quick because i have to say this. iowa, he wins, the next morning we are getting up and watching him in court. evangelists vote for him but he is in court for sexual assault and defamation. it doesn't mix. you have to come to the conclusion that has to do with his isms, racism, sexism, all of that. a guy was on your show yesterday from michigan. he was absolutely right. it makes no sense, and you can only go to that. you like someone who is just wrong in every way. it is unbelievable. host: got your point. that is angie in maryland this morning. the headline of the peace in "the wall street journal today," it is all over for the general election. for all practical purposes, the general election has begun, he writes. he ends his piece, there is not much joe biden could do to

change the minds of voters who decided he is too old to serve a second term, but mr. trump will have an equally difficult time persuading swing voters is not too dangerous to serve a second term. the outcome may depend on which is stronger in america in november. little elm, texas, thomas, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. how are you doing? i read the star charts on quite a few candidates. and guess what. the star charts absolutely show that donald trump will be the next president. host: star charts, thomas? caller: yes. i am heavy into the star charts. i learned how to read those correctly. they don't lie. host: the predicted donald trump the winner in 2024? caller: yes. i also told the governor of

texas, abbott, that he would win after his first election and he was campaigning for his second term. i said, you are going to win, and i proved it to him. host: thomas in texas. this is rose in james bill, wisconsin. good morning. caller: hi. good morning, john. host: good morning. caller: i love your show but i can hardly watch anymore because of the negativity about trump running in all this stuff. i don't understand what is going on in our country right now. everybody is fighting. people are for trump. good for you. i am a democrat, but i am not really a strong democrat right now because the way the country is going, it is going in a bad direction of hate.

everybody is against everybody. this is ridiculous about donald trump because before he was even into the politician mold, he went for stormy daniels. he would not give his taxes when the government asked him for his taxes, and that was what he did not give them, because he knew what kind of trouble he would get into if he released his taxes, and that came to a head. the man is still lying. he has all of these followers, and these people are so, i don't know. i don't want to use the word stupid, but they are following a man into the cemetery, and i wish they would quit doing this. i don't want to even vote. this country is so evil and so negative, so racist because of this man. host: rozen wisconsin. when it comes to some of the

neck of headlights about donald trump, some of the left-leaning media with their headlines in the wake of his victory in new hampshire. this is huffington post this money. trump under criminal prosecution for his coup attempt, wins new hampshire anyway. the possible future president's margin of victory seems to be considerably narrower than the latest polling had indicated. for the daily beast this morning, the new hampshire take away, we are not a serious country. this is the gop chance to choose the lane back to respectability and sanity and now they are right or die with trump probably forever. that was with his piece from the daily beast. bill in tampa, florida, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. yes, i just want to say to all the people out there when trump was in office, did we have any wars going on? gas prices. look what the man did when the democrats from day one tried to stop him from doing everything.

they can't see this. only blind. that is basically what i want to say. host: back to baltimore, this is michael. good morning. caller: good morning. i just want to say, sir, can you tell everybody what the definition of an insurrection is? donald trump has not been convicted of any crime. the democratic party started slavery with jim crow after the slaves were freed in 1865 and the civil rights act of 1864. the democrats, they brought margaret senior into abortion and stuff like that. i am african-american. they don't see the tricks. they keep bringing up race. this is america. people can choose what they want to choose. they don't want to be that -- they don't want the person to be president, that is democracy. the last thing i want to save

his people have to get the facts straight in this country. it is crazy with so much racism and democrats stirring things up all the time. donald trump is not racist. don king and mike tyson and a lot of other people. i don't understand where the racism starts. you have to see where information comes from but it is said we also bnt. we are supposed to be an educated nation. we can't take care of the entire world. that is why people are losing so much money. we don't have any money because we have to take care of people coming to our country from all parts of the world somebody has to pay for that. somebody has to pay for the wars. he has a good point there, you know? thank you for taking my call. host: that is michael in baltimore, maryland. here is more from former president trump last night at his victory rally in new hampshire. [video clip] >> we are going to win this. have no choice. if we don't win, i think our country is finished.

i do i believe our country is finished. we have an opportunity to do something so amazing, and the good news and the reason we have such support, the best numbers i have ever had, the reason we have support is because they are so bad at what they are doing and so people, and they are destroying our country, so i want to thank everybody for being here. i want to think this group of people. we will never forget you. we will never forget. i made a pledge. i made a pledge to your estate that you have the highest energy costs in the country. in the first year, they are going to be reduced by 50% because we are going to drill, baby drill. drill baby, drill. inflation is going to come way down, but in the first year,

your energy costs are going down by 50%. thank you very much. we love you. thank you very much. see you soon. host: donald trump last night in new hampshire. about 10 minutes left in this first segment of "washington journal." getting your reaction to last night's results in the first of the nation primary. this is charles, staten island, democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. how are you doing today? host: doing well. caller: it amazes me how republicans can vote for this man and not nikki haley. he refused to debate the republicans that were on stage. as far as the energy in the united states go, the united states is producing more oil than any country in the world right now, so as far as our energy goes, we are energy independent. we just produce the oil and ship it out to other countries.

get the facts straight. also, if you listen to donald trump speak, donald trump is just like history repeated it before with hitler. hitler. people to jump on his side and turned around to run the world. host: good morning. caller: yes, thanks for taking my call. i am a democrat, but i also have my eyes wide open. i have seen president trump when he was attacked about his dossier right from the very beginning. the same people that are bringing the charges against him now are the ones that lied about the dossier they told us three years of unbelievable problems. i don't believe i can vote for our current president, but we

have a unique situation this election to be able to look at each president and know what they did last time they were in office, so you can look at any subject you wish to pick. you can take it and say, abortion, i don't like abortion. what did biden do about it? what did trump do about it? the both haveisuation we have to vote this year. you just look at what they did and vote on that. host: is that creating a more informed electorate the cycle, you think, the fact that we have such an extensive record on two ministrations we can look at before we head to the polls? caller: i think you can open your eyes and say, here is what he did. did this work for him or did not work for him? you figure out what worked well permit if you did not work

-- well. if you did not work for him, you can say he put the wrong person and try to i believe biden put the wrong person in charge of the border and i think it is obvious. host: i guess the question was more about the voters themselves than the candidates and what they did or did not do. we have the record to look at. do you think americans will do that? caller: i hope they do because if you look, it is easier to make a choice. now, i am in kansas. i have been to a few meetings with roger marshall, and he says everything you see on tv is staged. he said everything you see on tv is usually staged or theater. so you have to take a little bit of that and what it is, fear.

he is just like trump's first line when he said i will be a dictator the first day. that was a joke. it is a joke. it is his way of joking. he has a different way of joking that a lot of people. i know a lot of people with dry humor and they are usually fairly intelligent people, but that is what i feel. thank you. host: mark, you are an washington, d.c. good morning. you are asked. caller: good morning. great to call in. i suggest everyone should take a deep breath. we live in a democracy and the voters are showing that it is likely they want donald trump to be their candidate. i have personal experience similar to the caller in maryland working with top political appointees. i worked in the government at a pretty high level, and my experience was as time went on to you have republican previous

political appointees who worked for bush and as time went on, you started to notice or i started to notice, excuse me, that they were more so a bit more radical republicans working, especially after the insurrection. quite a lot of trump appointees left, and the few call themselves trippers -- trumpers. host: you are talking with days left in the administration at that point. caller: that's right. people saying the election was stolen and they didn't want to turn in their badge. that was their view. i am not political so i just do my job but in terms of the policy issues, the border is a big issue. the caller who was a republican mentioned gas. to me, if the democrats want to win the election, they should address those issues. as an independent, i will continue to work with political appointees regardless of their party affiliation, and i am also going to bulk up on my

understanding of eeo so if i am discriminated against, i can protect myself. everybody should take a deeper breath. host: you are one of those career government employees, yes? caller: that is right. you can call me the deep state, but i don't think i am. host: that is what i was going to ask, what do you think of the term deep state? caller: i think some of the rhetoric on the republican side is actually eroding democracy. i am not political get our find this my way to serve our country. based on some of what i experienced, i will bulk up on making sure i understand eeo so i can protect myself if there is another administration, but i think some of that is rhetoric. i don't think people believe it. there are people i've met who deeply believe that and want to implement things like schedule left about which would erode democracy. host: for folks who are not ndc or are not familiar, what is

eeo? caller: the equal employment office. host: so employee protection for government employees essentially? caller: that is right. that is right. there are several different classes that fall under that protection. age, sexual orientation, gender, so again based off of my experience, i will make sure i am aware of my protections just in case i need to file a case. host: mark, how many years have been a federal -- have you been a federal government employee? caller: five years. i served two years of the trump administration and the full term of the biden administration. host: you plans to come your of it -- you plan to make a career of it? caller: i do. i am an optimist. it can be stressful at times, but i intend on making a full career out of it. host: i understand if you don't

want to see what agency you work for, but what are your general issues that you focus on if you don't mind? caller: yeah, so i work for the executive office of the president and not to get too specific here, but pretty broadly, there are various components under the executive office of the president, so of course you have the white house, which is pretty well known. those are typically political appointees, and you have other components. some of the components have general schedule staff. some of them have administratively determine staff. i say that to say there are a lot of people who stick around. i have colleagues who have served several different administrations and we are all nonpolitical and support the office of the presidency. host: what was that tradition like for you serving in some form of the executive office

from the trump administration to the biden administration? caller: i think it was a typical. some of my colleagues who i worked with who experienced transitions were very open with me and what to share what transitions looked like. it was very atypical. maybe you will remember or some of the headlines will show that because the former president contested the election, that caused some issues with gsa allowing legally and also from a funds perspective transition dollars and transition timelines, so what a lot of people i worked with experienced was having to expedite the transition process, which again kind of causes issues with democratic norms, but i am not there to comment on what happened. i am just there to support operationally. host: mark, thanks for the call from d.c. this is terry in minnesota.

republican. good morning. caller: good morning get good morning, john. how are you i think -- go ahead. caller: nikki haley will have to drop out. you can't be beat by 12 and go to your home state and suffer a 30 point loss which will happen. that's too bad, she is a good candidate but i would also like to address something how everybody calls in and the huge problem with the country is this -- when people complain about racism, it is a whole group is being judged as one yet the same people that complain about it call in here and say every republican is a nazi, a fascist. that's the kind of thinking. dean phillips said something really good yesterday. he said i went to a trump rally and i interacted and i really like those people.

the problem is, you can't disagree, you can't have a different opinion and not be hated now. that's crazy. that's the problem with the country in a nutshell. we no longer accept any other persons ability to make up their own mind on anything. if they make up their mind different than ours, we hate them. they are nazis, they are fascists, they are destroying democracy. host: you talk about dean phillips, how much did you know about dean phillips before this primary season? caller: he is actually my congressman. i disagree with him but i like him. i disagree with his policies but i think he is a good man. it is possible. until we reached on kind of degree where people are calling in and saying boy i hate their guts and they are horrible people, they are not. when people get together in a

bar or a social event, none of this happens. none of this happens. you get on a phone show or you get where you don't have to be responsible face to face to another human being, you shoot off your mouth. that's just bad and that's where we are at. host: terry is our last caller in this first segment of the "washington journal." there's plenty more to talk about. we will talk about last night's results in new hampshire with the veteran political observer joining us. stick around for that conversation. we will be right back. ♪ >> discover the heartbeat of democracy with c-span's voices 2024 as we engage voters nationwide asking what issue is most important to you in this election and why.

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