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>> c-span is unfiltered view of government and funded by these televisi companies and more or @ cspanwj. the ceo from meta had apologized to the families who had gathered for the hearing blaming the social media companies for victimizing children. [video clip] >> you have families from across
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the nation whose children are harmed or gone and you don't think it is appropriate to talk about taking the steps that you took? have you compensated any of the victims? >>:f sorry? [video clip] >> these girls, have you compensated them? >> why not? >> why not help with counseling services or the damage you caused? >> our job and what we take seriously is making sure we build industry-leading tools. >> to make money. >> you didn't take any action, you didn't fire anybody. let me ask you this.
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there are families of the victims today have you apologize to those victims? would you like to do so now? would■ you like to apologize to the victims? show them the pictures? [applause] >> no one should have to go through what your families have suffered in this is why we have invested so much to make sure that no one will have to go through what you're families of gone through. host: the ceo of meta apologizing for face book and instagram and thecross the country. we want you to reply to this
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problem. as more regulation needed for social media? if you live in the eastern part of the country dial in at (202) 748-8000, pacific (202) 748-8001 , you could also text to (202) 748-8003 and facebook.com/cspan and on x @cspanwj. companies restricting false information has risen steadily. most americans say they should take steps to restrict false information and violent content. there is more support for moderating the content than the federal government doing so.
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do you agree with that? does regulation need to come from the companies themselves and not the federal government forcing them to do so? join the conversation and let us know. mark zuckerberg told the committee that this is what his company has been doing. his platform has about 40,000 people working on safety issues and his company has spent more than 20 billion on the issues since 2016. senators rages ceos in the companies failed to do better against predators.
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this is when laphonza butler questioned the cofounder of snapchat. [video clip] >> there are a number of parents whose children have been able to access illegal drugs on your platform. what do you say to those parents? >> we are devastated. >> to the parents, what do you say to those parents? >> i am so sorry we haven't been able to prevent these tragedies. we have proactively looked for and detected drug-related content and remove it from the platform in reference to law enforcement. we have worked together with nonprofits on information campaigns because the scale of the pandemic is epidemic.
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that campaign was viewed more than 260 million times. >> there are two fathers who lost their sons at 16 years old. their children were able to get those pills from snapchat. i know there are statistics and good efforts but none of those efforts are keeping our kids from getting access to those drugs on your platform. as a california company i have talked to you about what it means to be a good neighbor and what american should be expected from you. you owe them more than statistics and i look forward to you showing up on all pieces of legislation to keep our children safe. host: california senator butler
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questioning snapchat co-founder about buying drugs on the platform. the ceo of discord, x, meta, all before the committee yesterday and it was a bipartisan grilling from the senators. what do you say on this question ? should these companies be regulated and should it be the government? caller: i am a self-employed business owner that is a small business but i appreciate what these businesses have done for o pick. some want to blame when we are
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not parenting. when we don't have time and doing our job. i do feel offended that we are spending more time and money pointing fingers and looking for someone to pay the bill when what has really happened is that we haven't been parenting. host: on facebook melinda echoing what you had to say. parents need to regulate their children's internet usage. the government is not going to do something, that is your job. mona in virginia, what you say? caller: i am very upset with the negativity that callers have
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expressed. i have coworkers who have been damaged by social mia and i don't understand why we can't regulate a company that makes money. this is a money issue. host: mona, you dropped off their? caller: when we talk about social media companies who are making money off of our children and young adults. i have coworkers who have been damaged and have had to have counseling behind social media. i don't deal with social media and i understand small businesses survive through social media but we regulate everything else.
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yet, we can't seem to regulate social media companies. i am not understanding what the holdup is. host: the point made by the senators yesterday was they were likening these sites to big tobacco who fought regulation for years from congress in one senators saying when boeing have problems with their planes, the government agency grounded those planes and what are they doing to protect children? joe and red bank, new jersey. caller: it definitely has to be regulated by the government because it is a nationwide problem. is not in any one state.
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they have gotten away without being regulated for years. they have all made millions of dollars. i wouldn't be surprised if you came back a year from today and the problems still exist because the congressman and senators depend on the big business interest and companies to get money for reelection campaigns they have a conflict of interest. they want to regulate the companies but want them to pay for their campaign. host: listen to this from the washington post. this is their front-page story. committee leaders said they
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hoped the hearing would help build momentum for a package of bills hoping to curb child endangering information online by making it more difficult for platforms to dismiss protections. senators repeatedly attacked on wednesday they have advanced the bill in may but the measure has since stalled with no clear timetable to be taken up by the full chamber. what do you think of the idea behind the legislation allowing them to be sued and not allowing immunity? caller: those are good ideas. i would add provisions that
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would increase penalty until time for hackers and regulate companies like tiktok which is a front company for communist china. the most important section you read was where you said the bill stalled in congress with no clear idea of when it will pass. unless you gn his will continue happening. host: states have passed an array of laws to require tech companies to either build more stringent requirements or bar teens from accessing social media without approval but many sweeping measures are facing legal challenges or held up in
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court. we went to get your reaction, is this regulation that should be done and should happen on the state level or federal level? if you're in the central part of the country (202) 748-8000, western part of the country (202) 748-8001. next we have steve. steve from pennsylvania, go ahead. caller: you got me there. a simple comment, i don't believe the problem will be solved as long as posters remain
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anonymous. if you write a letter to your newspaper they publish your name in your city. when i called and this morning i was asked my first name in my zip code. a simple identification. as things stand, there is no repercussion for anything you post on social media. the responsibility lies with the posters and you can't expect young kids to make intelligent posts unless they feel they will get repercussions for bullying or any of the other problems resealed social media. have a great morning, happy
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groundhog day. host: here is chat on facebook. regulate the social media companies and let's propose an age limit of 18, we have technology to do this. you could react to chatter in the other caller you have heard or the root word -- report we've heard this morning. we have michael from massachusetts next. caller: can you hear me this morning? i think the callers have made a great point. i think there is a multipronged approach, parenting and educating the kids and there is a degree of regulation already in effect but i think we can do
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more to make these social media companies accountable. host: what is the degree of regulation from the fcc. caller: i think we can do more. i know theenators are grandstanding to get brownie points and they have the power to make changes but they are hypocrites. social media companies do not do enough to identify who is using their platform. they may have the power to block as much as they can a simple solution is to ban tiktok and social medias are allowed to
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distribute data. they are making money off my data but were not making a dime for. every time were on social media platforms they are able to make a lot of money off of our back. we can hold them accountable and make them self regulate. host: should people be able to sue these companies? caller: absolutely if there is a data breach, i have a responsibility, i don't do any social media at all. host: what about the argument senators were making yesterday pointing to the families in the
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room some of them hado suicide y should be able to sue you becaus they had been bullied online? caller: i have a lot of sympathy but suicide is a conditional issue with the people who succumb to that and i don't think you can hold the platform responsible for someone committing suicide but you can hold them accountable for not being responsible for not doing as much as humanly possible to protect children and our nation from misinformation and everything else. i think they could play a much bigger role in like one of the
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callers said they contribute to the senators and politicians. we can even get a daylight savings time adjustment and we are expecting these senators and congresspeople to help us out. s a multi-pronged approach a little regulation and a lot of accountability. host: in the washington post reporting lawmakers acknowledge their own failure to act contributed to the ongoing problems with child abuse on the internet. ■pare we also to blame? absolutely said lindsey graham.
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william from ohio. caller: hi greta, good morning. i'm just an old tennessean and i've always said crooked politicians have their own three ring circus and the only time they need us is when they want money during election time. i wouldn't waste my valuable time to vote for any one those critics. i feel so sorry for my great grandkids they won't stand a chance of the hot water. it is a shame that we have let these croaks take over. i knew they would take the world the first time they came out and
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now we have bitcoin, is just one thing after another. host: on facebook, are we g regulating websites when the biggest threat to children guns? so tired of performative politics. in washington dc, how do you answer this question? caller: when you get a cell phone facebook is automatically on the cell phone. there is nothing you can do to remove the app because if you do is says it will reset your phone. i have a really big issue with facebook just slogging out of
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the account permanently. facebook is so huge that on any android device, it is automatically installed as an app for you to use. i find that extremely problematic. the fact they have that much is a really big issue. host: that's interesting because meta and other social media companies are saying it is the phone maker apple, android, they are the ones that should take responsibility for allowing children to get these apps in the first place. there should be a safeguard for children on the phone and if they wanted download an app it
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is apple or samsung's responsibility to get that app without parental approval. host: that's a catch-22. caller: for instagram you have to go into the app but facebook? that outcomes preprogrammed on any new android device you have. to say that is samsung's responsibility, they are trying to play politics there. i am pretty sure they entered into an agreement with samsung
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and apple to do that. for them to say that is mind-boggling. host: don on facebook says you lost me at more regulation. it is more regulation needed for social media companies. washington is debating what to do so it is your opportunity to tell these lawmakers what yo would like them to do and how you would like them to act on this? alex in texas. caller: it's really simple. this is parenting. every social media cap has a true instruction why can a parent keep their kids off social media? it's as that. and i has parental controls for
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a parent to use to keep your kid from downloading anything. you let your kid speak to random people all day. why are you doing anything about it. host: jackson in wilmington, north carolina. caller: meta is too big to fail the fines they have paid her nothing but -- caller: i think there should be more regulation. why are they groveling to these companies?
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back when bill clinton was president we didn't have social media but kids are still buying drugs because the parents were paying attention when breaking bad was on tv we weren't saying breaking bad is influencing people by drugs. we have things like amazon tha has no competition facebook has no competition there is nothing like facebook it's the only one of its kind in is stealing data and taking information. we need to do more regulation to make sure these billionaires are taxed more and looked into.
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we are not the problem is the people trying to make money off the backs of innocent people. host: who are using the social media sites? the youngest u.s. adults are far more likely to use instagram, snapshot and tiktok. ages are less pronounced for facebook. these are the ages of the user for these platforms. these are the youngest people 65 plus, 50-60 four, and this is the youngest generation. tiktok should be banned. there was lots of conversation about whether tiktok should be banned. we will show you a little bit of
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thought back a forth between senators as well. jerome and lancaster california. hi jerome, go ahead. caller: i believe they should create a new platform that would be separate from the platforms that already exist for honest communication free from propaganda and conspiracy theories that have helped create division in this country. regulation creates a platform with something like c-span where there is an honest debate. host: we want more conversation with all of you on this topic.kn
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facebook, x or send us a text. joining us from capitol hill is chrissy houlahan, a member of the armed services committee, a democrat from pennsylvania. we wanted to take this time with you and we appreciate this time to discuss retaliation by the united states on that u.s. base in jordan. the president said he had a plan. what do you think he should do? guest: i think it is not an appropriate question to ask me a member of the armed services committee to opine on what the commander-in-chief should do. there are a bevy of people who can given advice -- give him advice. i think it should be proportional, appropriate and
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directed at the people who perpetrated this attack and i believe our commander-in-chief will make those decisions. host: the u.s. has been responding to the threats of the who these in the presence they have on the red sea and the threat to global commerce. what can you tell us, i know you're on the committee, what impact does this having on the houthis? it's not clear our responses have made much of a difference. there is still a struggle to navigate those waters freely for many communities. i think a response have made to some amount of difference and i'm certain we will continue to respond. as a president will in the
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coming weeks. host: what are your concerns of the region for potential escalation? guest: i have deep concerns about that and that is a fine line the administration has had to walk. anything done on behalf of the protection of our allies has the possibility to escalate in the region and it is important that we tread that line carefully. i believe this administration has done that and some of the criticism coming from my colleagues about a more aggressive response needs to be put in its place. thereponse to when, and who we are retaliating so we don't escalate thi what role or responsibility does congress have here? guest: we have a responsibility
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in many cases we are on the defense and the president has the obligation and authority to respond to defense. we have a responsibility should this escalate to anything further to give authorization and authority to the president. host: moving to the situation in gaza, you joined a group who has served in the military asserting israel's tactics are endangering hamas militants. guest: we are a group of democrats who have served and we do have concerns as an ally and friend to israel and a group that wants to make sure that israel is able to protect that sovereignty and do so within the boundaries defined by
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international law. it's an important message to send to think about that this is not an extended or expanded war and we have the ability to create a two state solution where israelis and palestinians could live side-by-side? host: has the president been forceful enough with israel? guest: are doing as much as possible. there is a lot going on behind-the-scenes to make sure that we are having open and frank discussions with israel to make sure we are able to free hostages and find an abiding peace. host: is there a cease fire and
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under what conditions? guest: it's an agreement on both sides and at this point hamas has done indicated a willingness to step forward with any positives so at this point a cease-fire is not something i would support unless less of mosses at the table. host: one more reason to talk about is what is going on with ukraine. dat ukraine is tied up with negotiations over the southern border. what is your stance on that? guest: i had the chance to meet in lithuania and it was starting to see our men and women stationed in less to
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hear their fear that if were not able to accomplish and aid package that the next domino would be moldova, estonia, those places that prudent as talked about escalating the conflict. this should be tied to ukraine aid and border security. there is a subset of all of us who are willing to move forward. we need to move forward with the deal is so my idea would support all of those things that i'm hopeful or leadership can respond to that. host: what do you think happens next on this? is there a conversation about separating border aid from provisions? guest: depending on who to talk
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to -- who you talk to, i am hopeful and anxious we get something done because these three different situations are all urgent in terms of how to be able to help american people in national security. host: on the domestic side house approved a tax bill, how did you vote and why? guest: this is a perfect example of what is possible in washington dc. a bipartisan court bill, we were allowed and permitted without going through a rules committee and so thesere can accomplish things like border security if we are allowed to compromise a get together at the
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same table we have some rich opportunity. host: what is in the spell and why is it bipartisan? guest: we had a child care tax cut. it had pieces of legislation that supported research and development task has. -- tax code. host: chrissy houlahan from pennsylvania, we want to thank you for your perspective. back to our conversation with all of you. as more regulation needed from social media companies. michael, did you get a chance to watch the ceos or hear what they had to tell lawmakers yesterday? caller: yes i did and lindsey
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graham's opening statement, you do need more parenting. but he also brought up the fact that the media is being bombarded by misinformation and i was hoping they would address that. i am a retired technician from the 90's and we had a big debate in school about tech companies they have too much power because the discussion was should this kind of technology be in the hands of the public because of this information. look at the state or nation's in because of misinformation and none of them touch base on that. host: the hearing yesterday with social media

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