the great numbers that they should be. kim: thank you so much. up. we could stay here and have a whole session but it is important to remember that just as we discussed, including economies in the west, not looking at the issue of women as justo in areas of conflict but as part of the solution about peace and security in having women seeingt also agents of change and empowering them and counting on organizations like david's to find women led organizations. thank you very much. thank you to the panel. thank you. [applause] samantha: hello, everybody. i'm samantha barry, at the editor-in-chief at glamour and i

am so honored to be here on what is a monumental day for france when it comes to reproductive rights. [applause] a devastating year for the u.s. when it comes to reproductive rights. we will talk about how the rights are attack in the u.s. and what is happening globally, which is probably a nicer story, with these three amazing women with a lot of skin in the game. sarah casey, alexis mcgill johnson, and jennifer klein. the dobbs decision in 2020 to

overturn 50 years of precedent, something we care a lot abo at glamour, we've been looking in the archives that all of the stories that were written around row and we are witnessing this alln reproductive rights in the u.s., which is terrifying. what are you hearing on the ground? can you set the scene for us in new york and those tuning in on the livestream? >> absolutely. it is an honor to be here. i wish we were in france right now celebrating the guaranteed freedom they put in the constitution today. the situation in the states is dire. 21 states now have abortion bands. on in three are living in states where they no longer have access to abortion care in that ste. it means they are traveling

significant miles out to get access to care unless they are completely denied access altogether. we have seen stories under storing --8d that abortion veins -- abortion bands make things more -- make pregnancy more dangerous. we know they are now willing to criminalize%y■u any thought that be more humane, a women in ohiod was reported by her nurse and faced incarceration. the idea that the alabama supreme court determined that

embryos are now children, frozen embryos are now children, the ripple effect of abortio■6 bands not just on denying access to abortion health care by pregnancy, miscarriage, ivf, we are no longer able to make a decision about where and when we get pregnant but also how. seeing the effects on the provider side. the match into medical schools, there was a decline of people going into the obgyn schools. high-riskexperience because thee worried about potential criminalization and state. criminalization that could■n cay

a 100,000 dollars fine and loss of license and they are making a decision to move to other states. ■x■ññ÷clinics are closing in idd in georgia only 50% of their counties had obgyn's in them so just the infrastructure is really losing access to talent. the impact it is having on the workforce and families as well as providers is pretty significant right now. samantha: you mentioned some stories planned parenthood has been good at getting out but there are many stories we do not hear on the ripple effect you talk aboutec happens to the women who cannot afford to travel? alexis: a story from planned parenthood this summer, a patiwoke up in georgia pregnant and did not want to be and made an appointment in south carolina, she got to south carolina and that day the six went into effect and she had to travel back to

georgia. she made an appointment later in florida money because every time she got the appointment she has to get the money up for a trip and take time off of work and childcare and she got to florida the same day that ban went into effect or just after and did not realize because of the chaos and so then she had to get on the plane and fly to california because she had now gone too far into able to get access to medication abortion. just having to go through that experience. those of the stories we continue to hear. abortion funds, access to justice funds, funds that planned parenthood can offer, we were able to support but that is not obviously the story that is reaching everyone, there are plenty of stories we see, forced pregnancies.

samantha: jen, how important is this issue for the administration? jennifer: it is incredibly important not just to women but particularly women. the president and vice president were quite clear that the overturn of jobs -- overturn of roe v. wade should not have b■we minutes after the dobbs decision came down, we had obviously been preparing for it but the president went out and talked about the only way to restore what was lost his pass federal legislation that will restore row. personally i was sort of frustrated when he said that 45 minutes like, that is going to

take a while and we need to do more now and we proceeded to do that and kick of the vision of where we need to go and how to get there and do everything we can. intates, alexis just vividly describes what is happening in the states are really the front lines. working with state legislators, governors, attorneys general across the country at what they can't do to not only help citizens of their state but thos who are living with abortion bands in place. samantha: what was the reaction to the alabama judgment? it? jennifer: you have to take a minute to think about whathappe. women who were literal --

literally in the middle of ivf not knowing if they could have their embryos transplanted. people who do not know what will happen to the embryos they have already produced that are waiting. the reaction is that first of all this was completely the chaos and confusion created when row was overturned but also shock. first they wanted to take away the right to whether to have a child. now they are taking away the right to how you willfirst theyt they went after the right to abortion, then the right to contraception, now the right to

use ivs -- ivf or fertility treatment. we have seen many of the things that can happen and i think it is important to point out this is a predictable and direct consequence of the overturning of roe v. wade and we know who there are things we can do and this is what we are doing in the administration. protec medication abortion spirit protecting access to contraception. protecting patient privacy. are very concerned that they were their doctors will be prosecuted and we have federal laws that protect the most sensitive health information. ■úre using them. protecting the safety and security of patients. whether it is picking up a prescription at the::■ pharmacy. in the last week we learnedhaine

the?k■ medication for medical abortion accessible in their pharmacies. the biggest win is to pass1w federal legislation to restore row. 9]■n restore roe. there are things we can do we now see they have gone too far. see the alabama state legislature falling over themselves to try to pass a bly even this week. questions about if you can remove your embryos from alabama, continue to store the embryos, those questions are not answered. but there are things we can do

and the motivation is there because people are mad and taking action. samantha barry: did you see different people getting mad over alabama versus dobbs? jenniferle point, alabama is beyond. abortion has been a fairly majority of americans, including independents and republicans actually believe there should be the right to make the choices about your own body yourself and i think we have crossed the line where this is no longer an issue where people are dramatically opposed to each other on have different views, there is a strong middle where people agree and i think what is happening in alabama with the court case

which makes it seem like we live in a theocracy really motivates people who maybe were not paying attention. samantha barry: sara, your work focuses on sexual and reproductive health in countries where that health system has been weakened by war or natural disaster. what is happening in the u.s., how is that having a ripple effect? sara casey: unfortunately we see the effects on reproductive rights in the global south. it has emboldened antichoice movements around the world. it threatens the local advancements in the sexual reproductive health and rights. we are seeing a lot of funding from the religious right going to fund anti-choice movements in the global south and they use similar tactics.

let us take kenya for example, their growing influence of the anti has slowed progress on addressing unsafe abortion, one of the major causes of maternal death in the country. there was a high court ruling that affirmed abortion is a fundamenconstitution and directd parliament to enact reforms to make it accessible. but under backlash from the antichoice movement it has stayed the ruling which also partly relied on roe v. wade in the ru have also were trying to put in a family-planning law that would enact the framework under which [inaudible] in accordance with the local0j laws but antichoice movements

largely funded by the u.s. ended up causing that to be withdrawn. firmware in the u.s.? sara: a lot of the religious right. samantha barry: i am irish and grew up in ireland, and i was so proud to grow up in a country that finally gave women back there access to reproductive= rights and i wrote that i was terrified i lived in a country that was taking it away. where is our standing globally when it comes to this?■0 we see france today, as alexis brought up, i want to use the exact language because it is so empowering. they enshrined into their constitution guaranteed freedom■ for women to have an abortion. the rest of the world, most of them, seems to be going forward and we are going back. how does that affect our standing in the world? jennifer klein: it is really a

concern and i hear that when i go to the u.n. and speak with representatives from other countries and they say first of all what is happening over there, and second of all it does have ripple effectin i will say hopefully in the last 30 years, 60 countries have taken action on reproductive than four have taken steps forward. the four sadly are the u.s., el salvador, nicaragua, poland.■f so we are not in great company but the rest of the world really is making steps in the rightly taken steps back. i think our standing is questionable but i think at the same time when you look at the future, i remain somehow

ward motion in this country, partly because of the anger and shock when the dobbs decision came down. samantha barry: alexis, you campaign trail talking with voters. what has what has happened with reproductive rights for ballot initiatives? alexis mcgill johnson: every time reproductive rights are on the ballot, we win. none. and in places you do not expect. [applause] kansas, kentucky, michigan, montana, ohio, wisconsin. states that might be purple, states that are clearly supportive of reproductive freedom. jennifer's argument around polling data is so important because 85% of americans believe freedom and yet to have 21

states rollback those rights, what it really does is help people under is not functioning. so all the ways in which we have seen reproductive rights move backwards, i thinklso correlates to the number of countries that are descending into fascism and the way in which the authoritarian tendencies in this country are coming to bear. and that i think has been the most interesting thing i have seen on the campaign trail, the fact that there is a reason why abortion and democracy where the closing arguments in 2022 and why i imagine they wl behe closing argument this year, because it helps people understand that democracy starts at the local levelgh going to matter who your prosecutor and d.a., it will matter who your state supreme court candidate is.■x how many of us can name who sits on the state supreme court right now in new york state?

all the ways in which we he seen the rage fuel and drive is so important and to go back to the conversation around ivf, the opposition has been so successful separating abortion from reproductive health care. trying to keep it out here on this island. and really only elective abortion. separating it in this way. what we have seen now is pregnancies are more dangerous, we see miscarriage be criminalized and now with ivf,at abortion is part of sexual reproductive freedom. having access to medical care is a private medical decision you want to make. you do not want marjorie taylor greene to make those decisions for you. you want to be able to make those decisions yourself and i think that is resonating across

the board for people across party and demographic and states. i think that is the powerful thing we continue to drive forward on. samantha barry: i think a way, glamour partnered with gq years ■tñ/ago to tell men's abortion stories. the site is universal and genderless. we do not he from the men half as much as we should when it comes to the fight. what is interesting i think from alabama is we have heard from men who e g through ivf with their partners and they are more involved in the fight than they were previous to that. i want to wrap up and ask you all what can audiencst our reproductive rights in the u.s. or globally?

sara casey: for donors, commit to unrestricted consistent funding to grassroots feminist organizations around the world and in the global south who are the leaders in fighting for the advancement of sexual reproductive rights around the country. and i would say here, for those who can vote, push global her act which would prevent the u.s. government from introducing the global gag rule which removes funding from organizations working on sexual reproductive health around the world. [applause]■6 alexis mcgill johnson: as gloom and doom as we started the coersation, i do h hope right now and hope needs infrastructure, right, it needs to be supported, it needs everyone who is calling into the health center who needs an appointment, there is someone on the other side of that that

needs to be supported to make sure they are able to do the work to ensure that the care is provided and they are fighting the bad bills and the funding as -- the f. so supporting local independent providers and planned parenthood affiliates is critically important. game voting is something we need to pay attention to. 24 will be an incredibly important year. that is the understatement the universe. to be able to move forward, to get to a governing majority for reproductive freedom will actually give us the first bite of the apple for federal legislation and that should be exciting and energizing and mobilizing. but we will also need to fight ballot initiatives like the ones in florida and n ythat have language in it that could help us get to a guaranteed

freedom for the nexts. and so i think it is really important for us to stay engaged and vote, but also really start to engage in a long-term strategy to get back into the what our work is now generationally. [applause] jennifer klein: what we havetias is that when people organize and make their voices heard, we see the results. win. so organize. michigan is a perfect example that. they organized, they really brought people out, and the results were clear. and even in smaller ways, if you are not an organizer who is going to bring others with you, just make your own voice heard

because it matters that you have reflect your values and the policies that you want to see in place. [applause] samantha barry: thank you very much. thank you, ladies. [applause] ♪ sec. clinton: thank you all so much for this amazing afternoon. now it is evening, it is dark, people are hungry. i just want to tell you that everything you have heard today is part of the initiative at igp and we need all of your good ideas, advice, support, in order to translaersd into impact and into work with our students, faculty, outsiders, to make sure that we actually produce results that move us towards greater equality on behalf of women and girls.

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