corrupt practice and recently started adding involved. host: who are the ones going to the floor and calling out their? people like chip roy. to vote like mike lee has been on a tear against earmarks, rand paul. they continue to not be involved. you seen some movement and's some is not necessarily the met gaetz type it initiallygranger,n the house appropriations committee said i'm not going to submit request but has changed her stance and submitted some smaller earmark read west. you don't see all the members of leadership like from senator mcconnell. rowing number of people submitting written west even among the conservative wing but there are still some very anti-earmark members. host: jack fitzpatrick, thank

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getting the view on campaign 2024. having this conversation the lake of kyrsten sinema announcing last week that she would be retiring at the end of this year. here is part of that announcement. [video clip] >> i promised i would do my best to fix it, to protect and defend our constitution. to focus on what unites us. through understand■2ingcompromi. despite modernizing our infrastructure, delivering good

jobs and safer communities, american -- these solutions are considered failures because they are too much or not nearly enough. the outcome, less important. ■÷ symbolic these days. compromise is a dirty word. i believe in my approach, but it is not what america needs right no so proud of what we have delivered. working together to get stuffdo. host: christensen about. that is part of her retirement speech.

the have lagged,s not me, it is. getting a sense of the congressional■]n. where do independent voters and? what are they looking for? if you are an independent in the izpacific, you can call (202) 748-8001. we will start with bill from alabama. caller: thank you for taking my call. +the politicians, the news÷m,

i'm just very concerned ahost: t looking for in this election? caller: a fair and balanced coverage from the mediai just w. host: this is and morristown, tennessee. though had. caller: yes. i was ca comment on the state of the union address. i have been in practice for 40 years and internal medicine. ■-whe has had progressive

development of sleep apnea, which is disruptive to sleep patterns. host: before we diagnose people over the television, are you an independent? n independent looking for a more vigorous performance on the campaign trail to move

them over to be electing him? caller: well, in a manner of speaking, yes. his performance with counsel for was pretty much occurred before the addition of cpap and the resolution of what is seen of■f6 individuals perform much better like an thesaly a, who had cpap for a number of years he passed host:. i. wh counsel , you will be able to see him this week.

he'll will be on cato week. the wall street journal points out, attempting to turn down the being accused of mishandling classified documents. the job would not be easy. noting that they said that the president at any trial, if you went to trial for mishandling -- certainly an egg a nerve. we will talk more about that ú7 and look ahead towards this week in the next half-hour. giving you a chance to talk about campaign 2024.

this is james and pittsburgh. caller: thank you for giving me a voice. i am from pisbur.we have no rign pennsylvania. we had to get more signatures than them. it has been so corrupted that we only have a two party system. host:■k how do we fix that? caller: we get together and say this is not-party system. this is america and we need to make some changes. host: is pennsylvania one of those closed primary state? caller: i got on the ballot for mayor of pittsburgh and they kickoñ me off.

and i would have one and i would've made a difference. host: what you run again? -- would he out again? --you run again? caller: i could be president of united states. host: that is james out of pittsburgh. have closed primary systems that voted on super tuesday saying it makes super tuesday not so super for state. the primary processuú continuin. they have essentially turned fire on each other and are focusing on the gera238 more da.

asking how independents feel about alan. caller: i will like to say that onof indecipherable mysteries of our time is how such a largeelectorate is stillh this man. i could create a college course right. i'm talking about donald trump. down, blocking, criticizing other people. that is my first reddo not tells guy is. tell me how good you are. s anything, like the iran nuclear deal.

i thought, i man is a volatile place. w said the agreement was perfect, but isn't it a good the -- try to stop that? it is a disaster. he never explains why and hek9 time criticizing rather than doing anything. host: as independent, deep think divided is doing enough and that state of the union address? his side -- caller: i was on his side anyways. knew there was going to be some kind of invasion. he goes over and says investigating. he was more concerned about himself than world affairs.

thing. how can somebody people still support him? host: that is alan id -- in new presidential winners haveon -- prevailed among th independents since 1976. it polling data. this is from wedo, nevada.

caller: i have a question for you. i do not understand why ron desantis that he would go all the y, running for president, then nikki haley was right behind him, and now they are not running. i was waiting to vote for ron desantis as president and nikki haley as vice president and now i do not have those choices anywhere. now i have to vote for one ofes. i think i could do a better job than either one of those. host: or nikki haley would have been better to run as independent and not as republican against donald trump? why do you think they were not able to gain enough traction to keep their campaigns going?

caller: i do not know why ron desantis dropped out. one day he was running and the next he said he was not running. what was the reason? it should not be money. if somebody is running for president, they can still keep their name on the ballot so that we can vote for the person that we like to represent us. and in the early primary states -- to me, he represented my views and he had a military experience. at least he has some military experience. nikki haley, i thought job repr. for example, within should have a right to their own bodies andw

m she can or cannot do with her body. see what i mean? i am caught in between. host: here is greg from michigan. what are your thoughts? caller: nice you. the reason i was calling was because what it means to be independent differs for different peopfor instance, i ge era of nixon and i'm not a fan of either party, but i tend to vote liberal. sometimes the -- conservative for local seats. ■ci have a couple friends who ae stout libertarians and green party fan. in later years, a great many

independents are trump pporters rebelng against the republican party. what it means, it is different things to different people. does that makeense? host: when christensen said why she was not running anymore, she said her vision no longer fit with what people want in this country. they want all or nothing. the outcome is less important than beating the other guy. do you think we have lost that in our definition? i agree with her on that position. i am not a big christensen bus and. i think she was too far to the right to be a democrat, which she was for a while.

e provided when he ran was for the fact that i ld be able to cross the aisle and work with people and other parties to get things done. at is that saying? i will not get it quite right, - perfection gets in the way of success or something like that. it is a famous saying about -- and encourages compromise. host: what do you think about the labels effort? to put a new labels candidate on the line? caller: i like the concept but not a big fan of the fact tnmhat

candidate. there are statements that they have made. aca path tothey announced that d continue their efforts and still do not have any candidates. candidate, you do not have a path to victory. for that reason, i am a little bit wary of them. good third-party candidate that you would like to see, if not a perfect ird-party candidate? who would you like to see? caller: with this election coming for a third-party candidate. i'm looking for a candidate who will be, one who is

willing to compromise, and i hate to say this may rightly friend -- i do have some right wing fred that it will not let them stop being my friends just because they support donald trump, but i that our constitutionally republic form of democracy is in jeopardy i believe that donald trump must be stopped. host: the ongoing efforfieldings they are calling it. mike said they participated in a national call and said it

message to keep going. they did it year unanimously and moved immediately to identify candidate. every one of our delegates had a reason to move ahead. brian clancy was asked about criticisms that were labeled. here is part of that back-and-forth. [video clip] >> look at the elections over the last decade. you would think that they could ge but you have to believe that this is different. we believe that.

you could go down the list of metrics, but we have never been in a situation where both parties are this unpopular, where the presumptive nominees are unpopular, where country. two years ago, a question that has been asked over time. but he be for that independent? the first time we asked that, 59% of voters said they would be to vote for that ticket. why is that so important? it is because they do not have to get anywhere close.

host: brian clancy was on this program last week. back to your phone calls. we are talking to indepents onking your,9 thoughts on the campaigns had in 2024. this is jerry and -- in florida. what does it mean to be independent today. -- independent today? caller: i'm looking for at before. divided, -- joe biden, th

cannot even walk without falling over. as a man, i do not what a leader. host: have you made up your mind? caller: no, i have not made it up yet. i like to see but they are offering and make md trump's red , it is what it is. to say what you want about the guy. he brings out haters. it is really funny with his record because we were safer, we had more and also -- i'm drawing a blank. host: good morning. caller: that last caller was way off the truth. i think i'm going to vote for

joe biden because the republican party, might as well call it the party now. people forgot about when heather declared war this country. these people don't realize that it took so many countries to take hitler's down and now we have vladimir putin. host: are you an independent who has ever voted republican before? caller: oh yeah. i voted for ronald reagan. trump is no ronald reagan. that is for sure. trump only talks about his personal problems of the stage. ■:nothing about the country.

nothing about what he is going to do with nato. our nato allworried. look what they are doing to the southern border. they are just complaining about it to help trump win the next election. caller: good morning. i became an independent but years ago, after 9/11, after what i saw that 11. i got tired of republicans -- i sosebee basis in the party. especially with donald trump. keep in mind, he is very racist. might as well call him the grand

wizard. he was found with sexual assault '< charges and fraud. he was found guilty. i do not know why c-span would show his campaign speeches because you are promoting a criminal. no better than fox and news nation. host: not become a democrat, you feel that bad of -- that strongly about the republican party? caller: becausem independent. host: what makes you independent? what are your key issues? caller:■ñ■ 9/11, i worked as a defense contractor. i worked with [captioning perforbyption conte. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2024] >> we are going to leave this here to keep our commitment of live gavel to gavel coverage. the house will be voting on several measuresansportation and infrastructure and later this week, the house will also

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