it was a moral form of reparations. i call it a eugenic will moment in history because it sought to resocialize white people to radically different types of people, to making them into nonracist by telling them how they could and cannot use their property. toda if there any forms of racism committed against blacks, those claims can be brought before courts financial compensation can be administered to the victims of racism. host: as a philosopher, what is your thought on that effort in 1964 to change white people sensibilities? guest: it was heavy-handed but it was proper. >> last week in his state of the union address, the president directed the united states military to build a temporary

peer in -- pier in gaza. a short while ago i did a video conference with colleagues from the urplt a.e. -- u.a.e., qatar, the european union and united nations to coordinate our efforts in getting this mariti corridor up and running. sec. blinken: we're also of course working with israel on this. when established, this corridor will enable the distribution of up to two million meals every single day, as well as medicine, water and other critical ewe mantarian supplies -- humanitarian supplies. german, greece, netherlands and canada are also supporting this effort. now, this is something that's going to take time to actually put in place. although we're working on it as expeditiously as possible. and i want to emphasize, it is a complement to, not a substitute for, other ways of getting humanitarian assistance into gaza and■8 in particular overlad

routes remain the most critical way to get assistance in and then to people who need it. but this will help close and it's part of our all-of-the-above strapbg, to make sure -- strategy, to make sure that we're doing everything possible by every meanse to surge support to those who need it. by land, by sea, by air. as you been leading efforts from the very beginning to try to ensure that assistance gets to those who need it.ha periods of, disruption, and having said that, we're also seeing right now humanitarian assistance through rafa and others, getting back to levels we've gotteto wes a day. yesterday for the first time of the world food program was able to resume aid delivery to gaza.

morocco made its first humanitarian assistance delivery. this week the first shipments to north gaza through a new crossing began. we sure that inspections are celebrated and road repairs move forward so that we can also increase the flow that's going from jordan ar supplies. so there's movement and it's positive. but it remains insufficient. israel still needs to open as many access points as possible and keep them open to■ sure that things are flowing in a sustainable way. increase the scanning capacity, inspection capacity, particularly at one area where more can be done to get more aid in more quickly. easing unnecessary restrictions on key products, having greater clarity and predictability on

what can get in and what can't. there's a legitimate issue here about items but we need to and consistency on what these are. and of course as we said all along, while it's vital to make sure that things are getting into gaza, once they're in,heyeo need them. and so distribution within gaza remains a critical function. there, improving communication, improving confliction with humanitarians, particularly with the united nations, with local community leaders remains important work and work that is still in progress. bottom line is, we need to see, as we've described it, we need to seelooding the zone when it comes to humanitarian assistance for gaza. this will have a number of i think important meritses to it -- merits to it. first and foremost, it will bring comfort to people who so desperately need. it but beyond that, one of the

challenges we have now, that you're seeing now is lawlessness, insecurity, all of that pervades in gaza. combined with desperation. when you put those things together, you have situations where aid goes in and then people immediately charge at the trucks and you see a lotting -- looting, you see criminal gangs get in the act. and again, just ordinary civilians who in the absence of sufficient aid may believe that their only chance to get a piece of bread is to go at the one truck that they when you have a sustainable, predictable, confident supply of assistance going in, that will people confidence that food is there, it will keep coming, they can rely on it. that will also decrease both the overall insecurity, sense of lawlessness, prices will come down for goods that are being looted and then sold on the black market and that will

undercut the gangs that are engaged in that practice. having said all of that, even as we workanitarian assistance by every means necessary, the most effective way to really get that done is with a ceasefire and having an environment much more con cusive to getting the -- conducive to getting the aid through. there's a vow. the question is, will hamas take it? doesham want to end the -- does the questioning is there but i can tell you that we're intensely engaged every single day, almost every single, with e if we can get a ceasefire agreement that will get the hostages out, get more aid in,tr a more lasting, secure solution. hostages remain front and center on our minds and in our hearts.

we just learned that one of theh dual u.s.-israeli citizens who we believed was taken on october 7, etai hen, was in fact killed on october 7. family multiple times over the last several months. i spoke to them yesterday. there are no good words. no one should have to go through what they've gone through and what the other hostage families continue to go through. it's another reason why getting the ceasefire would be so crucial,enable us to bring the hostages home. the president has made clear that ensuring supply and humanitarian assistance, doing everything possible to protect civilians has to be a priority.y

consideration. so to that end, i would simply say, where the's a will,1u way. we look to the government of israel to make sure that this is a priority. protecting getting people the assistance they need. that has to be job number one, even as they do what is necessary to defend the country and to deal with the threat posed by hamas. happy to take some questions. reporter: mr. secretary, hello. how are you? so two things very briefly. one, you guys have been talking for a long time, months and months and months now, about the need to get more aid into gaza. so i'm just curious about what this meeting today was, did it accomplish anything or were any decisions made about speeding up the maritime corridor or w the -

had -- a broader thing that had more to do with that? secondly, it's no secret that the diffenc biden and his administration and p.m. netanyahu and -- prime minister netanyahu and his government have the course of the past couple months. but particularly over the course of the last several weeks or i'm curious, you are unhappy with the pace of aid deliveries and what israel has done in terms of assistance into gaza, but when you combine that with the actual combat that's going on on the ground, can you see a point where the united states, where the biden administration says, look, enough is enough, and then if that does happen, what would th mean? sec. blinken: thanks. in terms of the meeting today, the focus was on the maritime corridor dock that we'll be building, that the

president announced in the state of the union. so what we were talking about today was, with the countries that are directlyin both helpinh that pier, that dock, but also putting in place the system to o send it off by sea to the dock that we'll be building. so that's what this is about and the president's state of the union message, following up in very concrete ways to get this moving, to the this off the the military is also working intensely on this. we want to get this up and running as quickly as possible t demands participation among the donor countries, the participating countries and israel. that's what we're focused on today. again, i want to that this effort is vital, but it's, again, a complement substitute for, other means of access for humanitarian

assistance to gaza and notably the overland access. as theond part our question, i'm not going to engage in hypotheticals. we've been working closely with the government of israel, but also many othero try to make sure to the best of our ability that aid can get in, they can get to people who need it. and that civilians are better a. and as i said, we need to see efforts in that direction maximized. the president's been very clear. this has to be a priority. and it has to be a priority for israel. it's the right thing to do. it's also, i think, profoundly in israel's interest to do it. and that's what we're working on. reporter: thank you. i want to follow up [indiscernible] -- the disaster this has become. u.s. is weaponizing the -- [indiscernible] -- we are the

leading supplier of weapons to israel. at the same time y÷íou are leadg an international rescue effort to get this aid in. despite the obstacles from members of the cabinet in israel, which have delayed the opening of more land access and still are. and as you point out, the sea routes are slow, slower than they should be, not all the ports are open. they're not a substitute for the hundreds of trucks that could get in by■and. so can you explain to the american people this incompatible policy, these policies are in conflict. and you have received any plans as requested from israel, a plan to take care of the people in rafa, if, as the prime minister has said, he's determined to go in -- [indiscernible] -- secondly on haiti, there's the same disaster emerging there on a different scale.

is there a u.s. plan relief? it's already been five months since the u.n. authorized -- [indiscernible] be a while until they get in. even if they agree to go in. what emergency relief■# can we provide to the people of haiti to try to resolve the growing disaster you. sec. blinken: thanks, andrea. coming back to the first question. we have beenings. one, making sure that israel can effectively defend itself and th's an enduring commitment that's not going to go away. and also to try to make sure that october 7 never again. in doing that, we're there as

israel's ally, as israel's partner. we've alsoá0é< been determined m day one that as israel takes steps necessary to defend itself, to make sure that october 7 never happens again, are protected, humanitarian assistance gets to those who need it. and these two objectives are not in conflict. the question is when israel on the one hand is and can effectively deal with its security needs and defending the country, while at the same time maximizing every possible effort to ensure that civilians are not harmed and that assistance gets to those who need it. and as i've said for some time, we see a gap between the intente determined every single day to close. we want to see the violence end. we want point where civilians are fully

protected and people get what they need to get by and ultimately to rebuild their lives. the best path forward right now would be, of course, getting an agreement on hostages. what we'n intensely every single day. with regard to rafa, the president's been very clear about this. repeatedly. what we said to israel is this. given the large number of civilians that are now there, many of them displaced from other parts of gaza, about 1.4 million, we need to see a plan that will get civilians out of harm's way, if there's to be amd not only gets them out of harm's way, but also ensures that they have what they need that. they have shelter, that they have food, that they have medicine. we have not yet seen such a plan. on haiti, as you know, this has been story.

the part of the story -- heart of the story is the suffering of the haitian people and we want to see that brought to an end. but that requires a few things. it requires a more stable political system so that the country can function and function democratically. and for that we need to see a ta clear return to a democratic path. we need assistance, humanitarian assistance, development assistance so the economy can get built up, people can have opportunities. and fundamentally we need to see security because it's very haheo things in an environment that is profoundly insecure. and right now you have in haiti profou insecurity that is being driven largely by the action of gangs who control big parts of the capital city, critical infrastructure, etc. so we've been working on all these fronts and as you know,

the united nations endorsed soml security support mission to help the haitian police regain control of security. as we're putting that stepped ut it would lead this mission, we've brought together other countries that are going to contribute to the mission. we ourselves are contributing significant resources to it. in parallel, we've also been trying with caribbean countries, other inter to help haitians get back on a better political path. i was in jamaica just a couple of days ago with a of the carib, with other partners, including canada, including france and mexico. all of this in support of haitian-led efforts to find a political path forward, to get to a political transition. and that's exactly what was agreed the other day.■+■t the prime minister, prime minister henry, stepped down,

along with his government. a transitional presidential council or college is being stood up. it's inclusive. it brings together most of the major parties in haiti, as well as key stakeholders like the private sector, like the interfaith community. and civil society. that cou as its mandate, again, agreed to by the haitian, to choose a new prime minister, an interim prime minister, to establish a national security council, and to put in place an electoral commission. that creates the pathway to transition to elections and to a constitutionally mandated government. that also creates a better environment in which multinational security support mission can go forward. i was on the phone this morning with the president of kenya who confirmed kenya's preparedness to that mission, as soon as the new council is stood up,

which we believe will happen in the next couple of days, and an interim prime minister is selected, that mission can move forward. i announced as well when i was in jamaica that the department of defense is doubling its contributions to this effort. so we now have $200 million coming from d.o.d., another $100 million coming from the rest of the united support of the multinational security support mission. we have another almost $100 million that's been raised from other countries a÷round the world, notably from canada. so my anticipation is, having done all of this work, we should be in a place where that mission can go forward, it can, we believe, help re-establish serity, take back control of the country from the gangs, meanwhile, political transition is moving forward with this interim presidential council, with an interim prime minister, with these new bodies that are stood up, tracking toward elections, and that in turn creates a better environment in which we can actually get

assistance in, get it to people who need it, get development moving again and create some opportunities for people. none of this is easy. none of this is going to happen from one day to the next. but at lea there is a plan, a process in place to do that. it's haitian design. it's haitian led, but it's supported by many countries, not around the world. reporter: let me try to push you a little bit more on thesemñ issues in the hope of getting an answer. president biden in his interview also said he wouldn't suspend any military aid to israel in a way that would impact, for example, the iron dome. does that mean the united states would consider putting conditions on offense weapons■] israel? secondly, you met with e.u. foreign policy chief today. he said israel is using starvation as a weapon ofar. do you agree with that? and if you don't, who do you think is responsible for the

man-made famine in gaza? and lastly, there's been an israeli air strike today on an aid distribution center. the agency said at least one staff has been killed.ve sharede coordinates of this facility with the israeli army in the hopes that it would be protected. what can you tell us about this incident? anksec. blinken: so, let me take those questions. actually, let me start with the last one. i saw the reports of the strike today on the unrwa facity. and first and foremost, our condolences go out to the families of loved ones of those who apparently lost their lives in this strike. i don't know the details of what happened. i do know based on what we've heard from the israeli government that the i.d.f. is investigating this incident. and of course we will look closely to see what that investigation produces. without getting into the specifics of this incident, because again, i don't know the

facts, i think it does, as al me something i talked about a few minutes ago and that's the imperative of having much better and much more consistent deconfliction. humanitarian workers, the agencies, they need to be able to do their jobs with as much security and as much confidence as is possible. look, you're in a war zone. you have a terrorist group that is firing from hospitals, from schools, from apartment buildings. but the israeli military, the israeli governnte obligation

to do everything possible to ensure that the humanitarians can do their jobs. and among other things, that means making sure that if there's a humanitarian facility that's clearly identified, it's not struck. it means making sure that if there's a supply ss convoy, trucks going to a

particular place at a particular time, that the israeli military does everything possible to passage. so, this is an ongoing process. it's made, again, incredibly difficult by the environment in which it's being conducted. but it is a responsibility and an imperative for the israelis. what we've seen in terms of food as well as other supplies going to your send question, is of course the israelis have been not only allowing food in, they have been working to make sure thatand geo need it. we've seen throughout this process, first, the oni october. after my first visit to israel, many hours of discussion, rafa opened, assistance began to get in. we later.

we got agreements to open the other one. during the first hostage pause, gc one week, the amount of assistance that was then going in doubled during that period of time. since then, we've pressed them on doing things like getting flour in. i mentioned that a short while ago. the flour that is now getting into gaza is enough to last for. in gaza. we have a new opening that was just put in place that will facilitate more assistance going in. i talked about the maritime corridor that we're doing. we've been doing air drops. the bottom line is, food is getting in but it's insufficient. that's why we're talking about doing everything possible to maximize not only what gets in, but what gets to peoplink that i think that answers the second part of the question. finally, letcommitment is to mae

that israel has the means to defend itself, to provide for its ownecurity. that's an enduring commitment. >> we'll take one more. reporter: thank cretar blinken: welcome back. is on israel to come up with a plan to protect civilians in rafa if they're going to conduct this operation. i wonder if you guys think it's even possible for such a plan to be developed. can they come, given how many civilians are there and what an operation would look like, do you think that's in the realm of possibility? then my second question, just in the same vein, right now without seeing that plan from israel is the -- are they considering

conditioning support for israel on whether or not they go ahead with this operation in rafa? secretary blinken: i mentioned a few minutes ago the tremendous challenge in conducting a military operation in rafa with 1.4 million civilians there. and:@ the imperative, as we see it, as president biden has clearly expressed it, that there has to be if there arey operati, a clear, implementable plan to get civilians out of harm's way and provide for them once out s. sit possible? yes, it's possible. but we haven't seen it. and the most important thing is to see it. and to make sure that it's something that can be implemented in a way that fleshes what has to be accomplished which is protecting people and supporting people. but right now, that's all in the

rem of hypotheticals because -- in the realm of hypotheticals because we haven't seen a plan. beyond that i'm not going to p get into any other hypotheticals about rafa or where that goes. all i can say is we need to see a plan for u.s. civil -- for the civilians and we will wait for that. thank you. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2024] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> more live coverage coming up this afternoon with president biden talking about community investment at a boys & girls club in milwaukee. we'll have that live at 5:00 p.m. ian here on c-span. earlier today house lawmakers met to examine a proposed rule from tection bureau to regulate payment apps and digital wallets. watch the entire house financial subcommitteean. c spon now, our free mobile

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