of difference wa delivered i think ther is a lot of difference. i have a colleague who says biden's trade policy is trump wine in a biden bottle. it makes sense. it is the same policy just d with -- in a different way thre trump. lo this administration has definitely continued with all of presidentriffand are even doing more of them. on the otherd,administration isr things. like inves credits. so, they are having the carro t and stick approach. that may work or may not work.

so, won't know if it will work for another five or 10 years, but if history is any guide,nfthe ds are not very good on all this. host:"washington journal," continues. host: joining us now is sheryll cashin who is an attorney of civil rights. it has been 70 years since the u.s. supreme court gave its decision in brown v. board of education. what has been the last big impact? guest: brown capture the imagination of a new geration of young people who were inspired to believe i am a free and equal citizen ibe able to go to school and

participate inny institution on a nonracial basis. that inspired people like my parents and that culminated in a social revolution a the civil rights act of the 60's. t wa only after that social revolution that the court began to. brown gets actively enforced by federal courts in 1968-1988 where you have this golden age of school integration which i benefitedrom. born and raised in huntsville, alabama. a proud, young baby boomer. we participated in integrated public schools we are poor,

working class and affluent kids of all races participated together, learn to get along and were able to access opportunities. that is what round stood for. host:hat d your parents tell you about how this captured their imagination? guest: my father said, if we had to rely on his parentsgeneratiow it would've lasted another years was beyond their imagination to challenge the status quose equal. they stayed in the black world and cap thereds down. my parents generation were more upstarts and they believed in equality befd and parents and sl

childrene willing to risk their ownin danger for their principal. host: what led to the supreme court hearing this case? guest: the naacp led by lawyers like thurgood marshall who happily, i clerked for. they had been fighting çpegation incrementally in the courts. in higher education and succeeded to getting t separate was inherently unequal in grad school. parents who were willing to risk their■x children and put tir children in a situation where

they demanded to have the principle tpublic schools. you have fca culminated brown. host: what stood out to you in or argument of this case? and reflecting on this case and justice marshall in his final oral argument before the court says something to the effect of why you said of all the people in this americansd out for this treatment of being excluded and not being worthy? schoolchildren black and white go play gethey played together'e not allowed to go t order. pursuant to clause 8 of rule 20, the vote on pass onl