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tv   Campaign 2024 Libertarian Party Vice Presidential Debate  CSPAN  May 25, 2024 2:06am-3:01am EDT

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that's it. i am totally going to tank this thing for you. let's get this going. i want to turn my timer on because i am told i am supposed to keep this to an hour. what we are going to do is we are going to start with an opening statement, let's say five minutes.
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i won't hold youo that too dramatically over that. i don't know which one of you guys to start with. clint, you want to go? clint russell, ladies and gentlemen. >> this, just like i do with my podcasts. my name is clint russell, i was born in san diego, california. i absolutely loved it there. i was forced out duto covid tierney, which radicalized me. simultaneously while i was being radicalized by gavin newsom, i was listening to this podcast called "part of the problem." itthe problems i was facing in that moment. so i started "liberty lockdown" and decided to scream into the ether because i was going or the world was and i was the only one staying sane. i found out that it was the world that had gone mad. there were a handful of sane people out there who was looking for an attempt to hang onto our
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most hard-fought liber the free we were being told whether or not we could leave our houses, whether play beach volleyball whether or not we could open our businesses. me. i still can't believe it. i feel like i lived through and when i woke u everyone had forgotten we all shared that same nightmare. [applause] a weird thing to clap to, but i appreciate it. and really, what activated me, what got me more that the run in 2020 respect for them, i felt there was a very big missed opportunity to speak up for bodily autonomy and speak against lockdowns and mandates that was missed. [applause] and i'll be damnedf this opportunity this go-round because the same dangers we faced then we f not graver dangers when it comes to world war iii. as if there's any politician in america that are actually giving at the level
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of concern that they ought to. because of that, the american people seem to be sleepwalking through their way past these politicians into absolutely disaster. to me that is the gravest threat we face, contrary to what the college kids might tell you when to climate change. the climate change we should be concerned with is nuclear winter. it genuinely concerns me. i grew up in the 1980's and maybe it is a relic of the cold war, even though i was six years old or whatever when the cold war ended. but i remember my parents and my grandparents would talk about it, how they concerned about the potential for nuclear war with the ussr theand how waging a proxy war between two nuclear powers was unthinkable and so dangerous. now we are waging multiple proxy wars between multiple nuclear powers simultaneously. there is no antiwar movement to speak of in this country. that has to change and i think we can do that. [applause] >> very good.
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by the way, i know moderators are not supposed to not along buthelp it. i love both of these guys. i learned this from jean epstein. if you see his old moderating days he would make a face of disgust. someone would be arguing for socialism and he i and he is like -- [laughter] it is just the greatest thing larry, why don't you take your opening statement now? [applause] >> my libertarian brothers and sisters, who remembers the first tithai2016. that was my first in front of a crowd. i use that statement to open up and it made people think wow maybe i am part of the family. because we are. and i spent my time these last eight years trying to build out within this party. think about 2016, who were there when i first came on the scene. how many people who were there
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running for office, either bp or president -- vp or president are still with us? only may. that is it. everyone else has come and gone, thd they come and they go. very few together and don't just become some sort of celebritarian, but go out and get signa who still show up and give trainings, who still go out and give advice by actual libertarians running who show up to local events and raise money, who stiup÷x people who are still trying to run local level. very few of us do that. one guy has. you' lwith that in mind, why would i be doing this vp thing again? back in 2016, one of the reasons i came on board was i was worried.
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i was worried that gary johnson would come -- by th i came in 2012. i lohevei was worried he would leave, and he did. he picked his vp. [b all of you booed but only one of you did something about it, and that was me. [laughter] booed. but i spent and money and ran a campaign to stop him. and i almost won. i lost by 31 votes, not that i'm counting. [laughter] . i lost by 30 one votes. why? why would some guy nobody had heard of have any chance of beating the former governor of massachusetts? because i built a coalition. because i my libertarian brothers of sn and almost won that, but we didn't. my worthe would go away. i tried to convince gary johnson at the time to run a campaign
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that would focus only on one or two areas, areas that i thought were going to work. didn't work, didn't go as well ns but i said, i'm going to do it. when i ran for governor in 2015, t someone has to pick up this torch. i thought, i will do it. i i could. i did not work for a year and a half, and i and i did this exact plan. what did i do? i areas that nobody even knew about, where the press could do one of two things covering the cow escaping or covering larry sharp. in the cow eaping won every time. but before it became a statewide campaign got mainstream press. it became a mainstream campaign. that is what i i am getting on the ballot. that is where you will did, that campaign. that worked. i multiplied multiplied his vote totals by six. [applause] first time ever. and the next year, you know what i did?
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i actually crossed the state again. i crossed new york state, every single co., six years in a row. six years in a row. i call it the full sharp.and i did it in 2019. in 2019, new york had 107 local libertarian victorieat's what we talk about all the time, right? the top of the ticket, gets the press, to support the bottom of the the wins. we have 107 libertarians. by the way, one was in new york city staten island. we had one. then in 2020 my governor, his majesty king cuomo ii -- he deserves that he decided he was going to t everything, and he said it was the working families party. that was a lie. working families party still supports him has alw that was the story he told to
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crush us. we had 15 local affiliates when i started, 30 when i was done, and we have 107 local victories all destroyed in 2020. devastated. but i tried it again, but i got sued off the ballot, raced half $1 million, and went to court eight times. the supreme court would not see our case, and i lost. i thou run again. too much of it tears up my family. in my first campaign, i was over $100,000 in debt. my second, almost $40,000 in debt. just paid off recently, as soon as last month. i did anyway. i was not going to run. i changed my mind. i changed mnd because he was the guy who understood my plan. he's the guy who know to move forward. he was the guy who came to me to ask for help.ho could make
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an impact and multiply the last et next four years. that's what i want todo. that's why i'm running. thank you. [applause] moderator: very good job, both of you guys. i think probably do speak for the vast majority of this room when i say, i think we'd b great to have either of these two guys as vice-presidential [applause] let me ask you a question, clint and i was glad you kind of to to ask toward the end of his opening comments. i want to ask number one is there somebody who you think is your preferred candidate out of the people running for and then number two which is kind of a similar question, what is this -- what do you think the goal of this should be? runn and vice president? having ar the presidency? what do you think we should be looking to get out of clint: well, i think that
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depending on the election cycle there are different goals and potentialities so i think if not for r.f.k. being in this race, and i don't say this with any anger toward him, i think he's going to consume a lot of the dissident third party voting energy. and i expect our turnout to be lower than it probably would have been otherwise probable multiteuldz smaller. i think we could have done fouror five percent if it was just trump vs. biden. with r.f.k., i think we'll be lucky to do one percent. that'll disappoint a lot of people but if attention you won't be surprised. as for aun with -- i've gone out of my way not to put my thumb on the scale, but there are really just two gentlemen that i have grown year. that's michael reckton wolf andjoshua smith. those are my guys.
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i would be honored to run with either the endorsement at that. moderator: that's fair enough. larry, i want to ask you, you did touch on this a little bit but maybe you can expound on why lars and you is the best ti said getting the votes setting us up for the next few f you can flesh that out a little bit. i know every sinle year we libertarian candidates run every single year they say when i'm in to do this. we all know the odds of that but wait -- but ok, but if at's the reality i think we don't want to be delusional so what should we look for? larry: most the time what do people this? what i'm going to do this i'm bold this, bold that, bold the other thing. nobody will hear can go to state affiliates, talking to libertarians who are already going to vote for you going, i'm bold, bold, bold. nobody cares. you have to other people.
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r.f.k. bunch of money and a bunch of votes from us. that's true. if we don't counteract that we're not going to get a percent, a half a percent. when we get a half a percent lose ballot access in 2030 or 2036. jill stein is funded. the green party ifunded. joe biden is so bad that democrats are no funding jill stein. i'm not joking. i know because they have paid petitioners in my state. that is insane. thosef how bad it is in my state, jil petitioners in my state because they're funded. we're g not third, not fourth, but fifth. if you think the fhting wait until there's only scraps left. this will be a bloodbath, to quote trump. this will be a bloodbath, right here, to quote trump. i don't want that. our goal is to raise enough money and awareness to pull two three
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four peretain ballot access across the country. the person to do tha already been 15 poll, 15 polls, fox you can -- "new york times." yes there's not a libertarian ailey, not even me and i've been in a lot of polls, not even i can touch 15. lars has mainstream polls and he's not no one can touch. that none of you can. he's already p 2%, 3%. already. so he'll raise the money. he'll raise the team. he'll get national coverage. and we will retain ballot access. what should our goal ballot access, ballot access ballot access. that o that more than anything. if we -- and i know it i -- i know my personal issues. in 2018 i was on the ballot. i was every that's when everybody love me. that's whe was on glen beck, i was on fox news. irv everybody -- i was everybody's friend. the second i kicked off the ballot ilarry who? larry who?
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nobody knew me. when you're not on the ballot, whether you like it or not, you and that sucks. and we can't have that. we need people why does this idea up with to focus first on electoral votes matter so much? it gets press kverage. we're going to actually try to get on the cow. he was on a cnn show already. he's not i couldn't get that. he's got that already. they're talking about it right now. and they talk about it now, it will begin to explode. imagine if we get 2% 3-rbg%, 4%, and imagine if we get gold on a masm if we get gold on a map that sets everybody up for the next four years. the next four years, everybody go, you can't win. yes we can. you guys can't -- more importantly if those of you who know large donors, and i know large donors, they
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don't want to give money to i'm bold. they want to know what's your goal. get an electoral vote. i like that idea. come to us. we make more money. o us. here's the best part. how many of you have seen me on some form of media mention other candidates? ho a lot of you. so when i'm the v.p., and we get that i will be mentioning you. you have seen me doeight years. thank you.us moderator: clint, i want to ask you, i think there might be some contrast here. what do you think of the idea that main goal of a libertarian presidential runf3 should be ballot access and that -- or if you respond to any of what larry just said here. do you agree with that? my feeling would be that you would have a different opinion? yeah,
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i don't fully agree. i think it is an important -- it's an important outcome. it would be a nice result. it's in the my focus, it's in the the reason i want to do this. we have a rare opportunity to speak to really, i mean, entirely manmade catastrophes that face humanity. if we can do so in a compelling fashion we can create a movement. now far be it from me to think i could possibly reignite theron paul revolution but i think if we expect toposition as the third party and try and make inroads on the due only, we're going to have to create a movement. and you know, while i respect what lars has done,o different polls, and conventional tv, i rea fighting the old fight. i think that the futurs now. and now is the internet, the youtube. i think that's really where the
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majority of young peopre getting their commentary. and i think that that's able to reach farmer people. if you just look at audience sizes, it pales in comparison. tim cast irl will do double or triple a cnn show. i've been on there, i reach millions of people not per per month on the show i do with luke. i reach millions with liberty lockdown. these are tangiblets. there's a fanfare after doing this show for less than four years. hundreds ofeo all through a podcast. it's crazy. now that doesn't mean t electoral success at the end of that rainbow. we have to do farmer. the people and inspire them to actually convince ancon vert more people into becoming libertarians, theni am not interested in getting two or three or those people all abeen don ship the second the elect over. i want to actually convert people heart soul, mind, body. i think i can do that.e]
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moderator: go ahead. larry: ich people but is it the right people? in 2018 i was on two different shows, two different times. i was on david podcast and joe roe ban's podcast. joe rogan, farmer popular. farmer popul. views. farmer views. i got bigger bump on my social media. all of it. didn't raise much money. went on dave rubin raised money. lots oift. put everyone else to shame.who was i talking to? different audience. the audience does matter. it is important that youngsters do listen to it of course.on't vote. the people who vote are the they vote. i agree with you, some of them we will away. i'll take it from there. i did that needed and then what did i do?
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i gave 107 local libertarians you just said my job isn't to convert all of you. my job is local people show up, they win, they'll convert, they'll ground up. that's what i'm trying to achieve. thank you. mod raitdor: do you want to respond to t a few policy issues. so i -- just very briefly, some of know, i was in the ron paul movement. i joined the libertarian party in 2018. and i'm a member of the mesus caucus. i've since then about different factions within the libertarianave. there's obviously a few issues that libertarians have typically had debates about. i'm thinking immigration abortion things where there are kind of libertarian luminaries who have arguments that take you to different sides, starting from libertarian princip there.
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one faction, i don't exactly know libertarian party has over the last couple of years, this is has really shocked me, supported the policy of funding ukraine and are now currently supporting the of funding and arming israel. i do not understand how you can get from a libertarian starting point to justifying robbing one group of people to fund another nation's conscripted army. just because i've been so baffled by the fact that there are some self-identified libertariansrt this, i want to ask both of you what your opinion is and what your campaign opinion would be on this. i'll start with you, l larry: i just went. ok, i'll start with you, clint. no, what's wrong with you, larry? [laughter] larry: do you want me to go again? i'll go again.
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i don't mind. i'll go again. you're right. the starting point, if it was libertarian, you're right. but the starting point isn't libertarian. that's where we are right now. no libertarian in this room if yourself libertarian, wants to have american empire. nobody does. how do we make the step away from that. not funding these wars. but we signed terrible contracts. ourselves off of this. those of you who know how this actually work, the military industrial complex is a massive jobs program. i see it in my own state. new jobs in new york state, military industrial jobs in upstate new york. can we just say no and stop it? we should. you're right. we can't realistically. americans wouldn't accept it. they're paying the bills off of it. they're eating off of it. they're surviving off of it. this has to be weaned. they appropriate way of doing this is being honest about yourselves. all the time. he's said more than once, we have to fund peace war. you go, i don't want to fund
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anything. the neither -- me neither but we are by the literal billions. if we're going to start fund fund to tear everything down. fubring it all back. bring everything b best ability you possibly can. somebody said the first thing i do is shut down all the tomorrow and bring all troops home and discharge them. so you want to take two million men and women and make them what a terrible idea. no. all of them have actual contracts. let their contract end. that's the smart way. allowt to end. then they don't re-enlist you don't screw over two million american families overnight. it all sounds goodal i agree, but we have to be smart. fu p home slowly, let them discharge as would. that's how you bring it all back. moderator: just a quick followup. leaving aside the issue of disbanding the entire military specifically there are two proxy wars that america is fu the poftion your
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campaign? larry: we should not be funding any of them. it's war. we should not fund any wars. we should fund no wars. the sad part is what we've done with empire, what we should be brokering peace but we can't anymore because we made ourselveses so one-sided. so we have to find someone else, azest them to broker peace. if we have to take the $100 billion to ukraine, whatever number we're giving to ukraine or to israel, imagine if we gave that to, i'm making this up, maybe jordan or egypt to hapending of the money we're going to spend anyway. fund peace [applause] clint, same question what would your message be about the proxy wars in ukraine and israel? talked about logic when it came to analysis on th approach this from a morality vantage point. that it is dee funding these wars. there's been hundreds of thousands, almost every able bodied ukrainian man is
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it's a fucking nightmare. we're being robbed to fund that. i don't want some sunset clause. i don'e contracts run out. i want our taxes to stop being sent to death and destruction. [cheers and applause] now the same principle applies to israel and gaza and unfortunately there's -- you can clap. they're not here. we think. i mean, it's absolutely heartbreaking. and once you really dive into these you realize it's our state department that foments so much of this. so it's insult on top of injury. our own government creates these traps and then steps us and says give us more money. give us more of your young men to go risk their lives for nothing. it's sick. on a moral level, it is absolutely reprehensible. on a financial level it's completely u and i think that because of my background in finance that is something i can speak to.
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we in debt. at the end of the cold war in 1991, it was $3.5 trillion. our national debt since the fall of the u.s.s.r. since the fall of our number one foe, the only legitimate contender to global hegemon. they go aw and instead of recognizing the incredible opportunity presented to us and working and prosperity on the global scale instead we started countless wars over the following 30 years. none of it had to happen. i can't think -- if there's anybod wars we have participated in since 1991 was moral or just let me know, because i can't see it. [applause] larry: i'd go back to 45. moderator: the last one was the american clint: i'm not interested in pragmatism. i'm not concern about the boeing employees who lose their
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contracts. you go and you get a real job not producing weapons of war. that's my answer. [ches and applause] moderator: very good. i think we got some good intentionally kind of asking about the things that areans because i know you guys all agree on taxes and moneynd guns. so it's -- i see this a lot. in libertarian debates the question is taxes. everyone has a turn going, i hate taxes. it's fun to you guys. we don't need to make that point. is c-span watching? c-span, weat [cheers and applause] ok. [audience chanting] moderator: c-span, we don't care much for central banks either. i want to turn to a topic that
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is a amongst libertarians. it's one that i have -- i've jumped into this bee's nest many times and understand how arguing there is over it. the topic of immigration. i think particularly at the moment right now immigration is in almost every poll the number two issue todd economy and in some polls it was the number one issue that the americanoters care about. now there are many libertarians subscribe to the -- subse rsonally i've been arguing, i think this is a totally untenable a campaign on. these days. larry, what do you think is the properrstand the immigration issue and then more importantly maybe for larry: i thought we were swapping, what happened? moderator: we'll swap when i want to swap. how do you think a presidential candidate and vice-presidential candidate should talk to the american people about the immigration crisis.
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larry: the issue is tough, you're correct. in a perfect world you'd like to have open borders. but that's not where weow. we can't do it. i wish we were like the u.k. and we could scotland and whatever that would be amazing. i would hope that would h not there. thethe border down won't happen. large companies in america and smaller ones too want they just do. and they're going to get them. legally them. i live in new york city. in new york city, the hospitality industry. farmers in upstate new york.l hece they want them. we in new york city, we have to i.d.'s we give them an i.d. i'm not joking. here's an gives you an i.d., we make you legal. that's how we work. not the right answer. however there is, it's a good answer. there are lots of large companies that move literally hundreds of thousands of immigrants across borders all day long in their work. and they're all being used by recruiting companies. why do you have recruiting
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companies on the border, or in the bronx, putting recruiting there, and it's the new ellis island they build very hotels, they don't do that? yes, they do. it'sle being done all over east asia they build massive hotels, keep people there two week, three week, give them three simple visas, maybe four simple visas. this is says if you make the visa system easy and simple people won't cheat. we them and let them go wherever. this system we don't have to shut our border down.what about the bad guys and the fentanyl guys and traffickers? they're real. i see it in my own city. 99%em are good. but new york city has 200,000 of them come. that's guys. that's a lot of bad guys.s why new york city is suffering. one of many reasons. what if we said if you're a bad guy you'll get at ellis island.
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what would they do in they'll tray to cross the border th normally use. but we use the same exact people are border patrol can chase down bad guys. i want my law enforcement baby-sitters to families. i want them getting bad case. and they'd go get bad guys. [applause] but there's something more impo create this model every company who wants to create as much as they want to. two, three, four, 10 of them they have market can come up wi an answer. now we have about 15 million or so, give or take, undocumented workers now. migrants here in america. we can't, i know trump saysi'mgoing to start mass migration. no you're not. you're not. you're just not. he's lying. not going to happen at awful he won't have some massive deportation we don't have the body, time or money to go door-to-door and get 15lie done. you know what can be done? voluntarily give them the option to make themselves legal. by using the ellis island visa plan that lars is talking about. use -- the you can be in texas and walk through, or be in the bronx whever..
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once you get legal here's what also are the bad guys. i want to get he's in aneveryone wants to protect him because they're scared they'll get arrested. once they're legal they'll tell law enforcement where bad pablo nd law enforcement is out getting bad guy, not throwing out families or putting kids in cages. that's how we speak about it. that's how have vibrant immigration but still control the borders.an [applause] moderator: all right. for the record, pablo was framed clint, same question to you. how should libertarian vice-presidential or presidential candidates talk about immigration? clint: i think tell the truth. i approach this with a very, i guess, kind of a clean slate. i didn't really know what i was started to do the research. i grew up in san diego. legal immigration was a way of life. everybody i knew was an immigrant. i didn't think it was that much
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of a stark difference until i actually did the research. the research about a year ago. the numbers may have changed slightly. but from, say like, george bush era, the 200,000 to 50,000, usually around 350,000 illegal crossings annually. we're now talking about 10x that, just as i said earlier about the national debt. these are dangerous numbers. and then i dug deeper. i realized how could this possibly be happening? to have a 10xing immigration in a matter of years. it can't strictly be an economic phenomenon. then i realized the united nations was funding based off billions of u.s. taxpayer dollars goes to the united nations, they've put hundreds of millions of those dollars into n.g.o.'s and nonprofits that assist the migrants on the trek up to america. they do the same in europe if you're paying attention you've seen the hardline anti-immigration politicians are
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becoming more and more popular in europe. it's immigration crisis. and you'll see the same thing in america. i think to a large extent you already have. that's why donald trump exists. so i think that i am actually quite pro-immigrant. however, i think that it needsto be a doubling of legal immigration. when we have junction, i think there's only about a million legal immigrants allowed that's far too low. i think we need more people. but we need it to come through in a somewhat controlled fashion. i know that's an unpopular thing for libertarians to say, but i'm the other direction you'll end up with basically zero immigration and full nativistic racist rhetoric that propagates very aggressively. that's what's coming. so that's my answer. increase legaln illegal immigration as best we can. [applause] moderator: very good. i want to -- let's switch it up one more time.
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we'll go clint and then larry that's beenntroversial, amongst libertarians, has been this previous libertarian party national coust a few minutes ago bobby kennedy jr. spoke. i have vek ram mi -- ram swamy -- ramaswamy will be up here with one of you two and of course theraelephant in the room is donald trump. with love. moderator: of course. be cool, guys. ot here yet. obviously this is a very -- this is a historic moment for and the libertarian movement. we've never had anything like a former sitting president and frontrunner to be the next president if he's not arrested/assassinated, a lot of libertarians have been upset. larry:e's joking.
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f.b.i., he's joking. moderator: i'm not threatening the dude. i'm thinking somebody would do it. clint: he thinks the f.b.i. keeps presidents safe. moderator: i'm not going to assassinate him to be clear. as been somewhat troacial among libbertarians. curious about your thoughts on. this clint you first. then larry. illed. i have felt as if this party has languished in on security. i say that with all love. no animosity whatsoever. nt attention, more eyeballs, more interest, more think pieces, more opinion pieces. i want all of that. i want more attention on our ideas primarily because i think we are fucking right. i think we are absolutely right. so for those that are lamenting the fact that the orange elephant will be here in a couple of day, i don't get it. i'm going to be dent understand how it
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tarnishes us. he comes unlibertarian crap, we boo him he leave, the articles get written, who cares. it's a r.f.k. wasr; here earlier today i hear all free ross chants, free chants yosm uno how he responds? instead people we should be building monuments to them in d.c. we have a legitimate presidential contender saying it, it'll be broadcast across --ave a populist movement there's a decent chance it gets adopted by whoever wins. these things matter. it matters a lot. optimistic, i'm very appreciative of angela, she's created a lot of division, the party has been divided or whatever. i think it's b the conversation or the popularity, the eyeball, the interest the dialogue. i think we have the right ideas. let's test them in fire of the media state. let's do it.
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[applause] larry: i was not thrild. i was i was worried. i was concerned. i thought that we have an opportunity ta might -- we might wreck it. things might go poorly. the media might destroy us. i was very worried. i was. but i also thought we had an opportunity is dan reel in the audience? dan? dan made news about an hour ago. he did. he made the brett bayer show saying howe don't want him. trump picked that up. he was ouv baier. some of you might have seen that. i'm now ok with it. i was worried. i was concerned. i was worried that we might screw it up. might go poorly. fox news did not show it as they love trump. did not. they showed dan, out of connecticut, yelling how much he shouldn't be here, we don't want him here.icked. that's not bad at all. i'm ok with that. if we can keep doing that, if we
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can keep having people show people exactly who we are, if we can keep doing that, it was a good idea. if not, we screwed up. so far, i'm ok. that right? is she a real person? it's a joke,eople. i took a lot of acid before this. i was just checking if that was a realng it. we're all libertarians here. if that is the case then let's move to closing statements and we'll keep them brief. angela? statements and then you have the open -- you had the opening solarry you can open with the kilo closing. larry: how many people in this room have received a phone call
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frome? hands in the air. how many people -- yeah. how this room have seen me raise money for a candidate or party? raise money for those people. but it was right. to fix, to help, to support. did you notice when i was talking today, i brought up other people and not metantly? i talked about dan rio, how proud i was of him. talked lars, how happy i am to be with him. the job of the v.p. is be supercool guy. that's not the job. that's the president's job. >> i'm out. larry: you are out. [cheers and applause] >> it's a joke. larry: no, it's not. it's not. the job v.p. is support staff. the job of the v.p. is coach and trainer. the job of the v. spmplet to make sure our presidential candidate looks good when they're out there. our the job of the support the presidential
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candidate. i was garry johnson's surrogate in the media several times. i was sometimes better than him. [laughter] but that's the job of the that's the job. support, here in the future when people need us. be our candidates pack up and go. they do sometimes. but i'm still here. important. yes. thank you. it's important that you pick a v.p. who is going president. who is going to support tm so they can achieve their goals and we can all grow. gettin access, growing at the local level. i' tomorrow, is it tomorrow? whenever it is. i'm asking two things from you. one, i'm asking every one of you to support the presidential to support. i want you all to vote for lars first every one. i want you to vote for lars in the first round. he's the guy who'll get wrus we need to go. he'll set us up f future. everything else gets us half a
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percent and loss of ballot access. lars gets us more. i run when i can make impact. i could run all the time i two years if i want to. i don't. i run tois impact. i'm asking for your vote tomorrow for lars, round one please do that. i'm supporting him. please suprt him too. and please support me. thank you. [applause] moderator: all right. statement? clint: i think in terms of politicking, larry is your guy. i am not, at all a politician. so much so i very much did not want to do thi a but i think that there's an incredible opportunity and felt a calling. i felt compelled. that i'md in having a family soon and settling down. i'm really concerned about the condition of the world. both economically when it comes
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to the domestic condition and militarily when it comes to the foreign concerns.uld just not be table look myself in the mirror if i didn't go out and tell the truth about what i see happening. so that's what i bring to the table here. is that i promise you, i will not be politicking. and i will not be kowtowing to the either. i will be telling the truth even if it i'm not a politician. i'm here 100% to tell the the world and i'm not going to be, you know, undercutting vicious or anything like that, but i am just here to tell the truth. i think that that is what the american people are looking for yet many o are looking to be lied to of course, they always are.::nk there's never been a more right market sincerity honesty, truth telling, courage now. right now. they have been lied to. in an unbelievable way. so many people have just re they put poison in their bodies and they were told that was the only way the
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economy could ever turn back on. what a sick joke that is. those shaken to their core. they are looking for answers. right now they're in r.f.k. jr. that's the truth. they think tha he's their savior. unfortun of socialism along with his truth telling t we need somebody who tells the truth about everything. [applause] it is the honor of my life to be involved the party of ron paul and murray and all my heroes. [applause] i'm trying to think about what angle i go with this. do i just tell you guysi do. i love you guys. you guys inspire me. you fire me a reason to get out of bed. and i think that
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with that fire inside them. and i have that. i'm ready to go. moderator: whatever happens here, two of the best guys movement. larry and clint, give them a round of applause. thank you guys so much. larry: vote for me for vivek.
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