♪ host: it is the washington journal for june 7. president biden will discuss the importance of countries across the world, including the united

states, to defend freedom and democracy across the world. he is scheduled to meet with ukraine's president. a recent associated press poll found americans wanted united states to take a less active role in solving the world problems. the start -- to start today we want your thoughts on what america's role is when it comes to dealing with world problems. what is america's role in the world? (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 free democrats. independents, (202) 748-8002. send us a text on your thoughts on america's role in the world at (202) 748-8003. you want to post on social media. several already posting on facebook on facebook.com/cspan. you can post on x, at @cspanwj. here is a poll that took place

in march of the associated press when it comes to thoughts on america's role in solving world problems. four in 10 adults want the u.s. to take a less active role when solving problems. that's the 40% mark for overall u.s. adults. 36% say the current role is about a more active role is necessary. 52% say the current role is about right. 23% say a more active role is needed. 28% say the role is about right. 21% of republicans. 53% of those say america should take a less active role when it comes to dealing with the world problems. 22% say the current role is about right. about 24%, a more active role

when it comes to dealing with the world's problems. that's from the associated press. it breaks down specifics. the president set to meet with ukraine's president this morning. the poll asking about those specifics wh■en it comes to the work with ukraine and russia. 36% of those eight units states should take a less active role. 40% say that current role is about right. 22% saying a more active role is needed whe c -- 41% saying the current role is about right. 21% saying a more active role is needed. you can fa in or what you thinkn it comes to the role it should take in the world solving the world's problems. let us know when the phone lines this morning. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 for democrats.

independents, (202) 748-8002. texting us at (202) 748-8003. posting on social media sites to facebook and x. some of you have done that this morning. on facebook particularly. tom sanford saying when it comes to america's role in the world that is the on remaining superpower it's incumbent upon us to be a source of stability and justice for the world, helping make sure the good guys always outnumber the bad guys. butch smith saying it s be -- to be a good neighbor and keep our nose out of other countries' business. the role is like every other country, to make the world a better place. present and future generations. also on the facebook page, when it comes to america's role to be the biggest bully towards developing countries.

edward in michigan, democrats in line. america's role in the world. what you think it is? caller: i would rephrase it differently. i think that trump and the republican party is pro with the rotarian -- authoritarian. pro-russian, pro putin. they are turning their backs on what i would call the western values, the values of democracy and openness and free press and fair elections. they want to be sort of like authoritarian countries like russia and putin. host: do you think america highlights those ideals to the rest of the world? caller: i have to say i think western europe, europe and the united states,,

australia, new zealand, japan, that is what i would call the western alliance. it is in retreat in the sense that the authoritarian countries in eastern europe are expanding their power. democracy is a bit on the decline in eastern europe at any rate perhaps. we have to sort of re-up our pro-democracy, you know, pro liberal values and human rights and individual rights, etc. if not then we become like hungary or russia. you know? host: joe in washington, d.c. america's role in the world? caller: good morning.

i do think america should be the world's police. they have all these military installations all over the world, spending billions and trillions of dollars. no other country has lee terry installations around our country has -- military installations around our country. why do we have to be in everyone else's government policy? it is hypocritical. i think america is a hypocrisy. america should mind their own business. we are spending our government taxes all over the world helping other countries without helping america. host: ok. let's hear from ronald in baltimore, maryland. independent line. hello. caller: how are you doing, sir?

host: go ahead. caller: if you talk about america's role in the world, it seems to be a discrepancy. that's a misnomer. you have america and you also have the usa corporations, which a lot of people may not understand what i'm talking about. this so-called government, there are only the usa corporations. his separate. -- it is separate. no matter how you look at it there role has been at this point in time -- their role at this point in time is creating confusion and chaos. anything good coming out of any political orders. any type of political party out there right now -- host: when you say the role is to create chaos and confusion, what do you mean by that?

give me a specific. caller: everything. russia, israel, africa. anywhere the usa corporations go to. it's not doing anything to help anybody. it might have a facade for people not in the know to make them look like they are trying to help. it is total nonsense. they have no right -- no grounds to step on. host: robert in laurel, maryland. republican line. caller: good morning, everybody. my thing is, somebody has to be the big dog on the block. that falls on us because we are the big dog on the block. what i mean by that is, we live in a nuclear iced world -nuclea.

we have to keep our eyes open, argues open -- our ears open. we need to increase our spy network. we need eyes and years on the ground -- ears on the ground. we have to insert influence in the world because it is such a dangerous world that we live in now. host: when you hear people say america should not be the world's police, what do you think of that when you hear people say that? caller: i think people are confusing it with trifle matters. we go in and, you know, support our favorite candidate and we discourage -- they are worried about that. maybe they have a point on that. the part you can't see, we have to be involved in that.

we have to be progressive to take out of danger in the room. thank you. host: robert amongst the sampling about america's role in the world. you can add your thoughts to the mix by calling us on the phone lines that you see there. republicans, (202) 748-8001. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. independents, (202) 748-8002. president biden yesterday while commemorating d-day talked about the role of america, particularly after meeting veterans. a speech taking a look at america's place when it comes to defending issues like democracy and freedom. here is a portion of that speech from yesterday. [video] >> together we won the war. we rebuilt europe, including our former enemies. it was an investment, became shared -- in what became shared and a prosperous future. we established nato, the greatest military alliance in the history of the world.

and over time -- [applause] you got it. [applause] over time, we brought more nations into nato. the nato alliance. including the newest members, finland and sweden. [applause] today nato stands with 32 countries strong. nato is more united than ever and even more prepared to keep the peace, deter aggression, defend freedom all around the world. america has invested in our alliances and forgeds. not simply out of altruism, but out of her own self-interest as well. america's unique ability to bring countries together is an undeniable source of our strength and power.

isolationism was not the answer 80 years ago. it is not the answer today. [applause] we know the dark forces these heroes fought against 80 years ago. they never fade. aggression and greed, the desire to dominate and control, to change borders by force, these are perennial. the struggle between a dictatorship and freedom is unending. host: that was the president from yesterday during d-day celebrations. you can see more of that at our various platforms. 10:00 this morning, the president is speaking from normandy, france on the issues of freedom and democracy. see that on this network, c-span. follow along on our c-span now have and c-span.org is where you can see that speech later on

what is america's role in the world? get your thoughts on that. call the phone lines, post on social media. bo in georgia. you are next. caller: thank you. i see our role as positive. however, there are limits to american power. there are so many things we can do in some areas we cannot do completely, like police the world or intervene in every situation. what we want or should do is allow countries to try to emulate us that can. in some circumstances they won't but need to learn the hard lessons via vietnam and afghanistan. we need to have realistic foreign policy. i agree with what some of the things the president said. we are a force for good, like we did in both world wars but there are limits to what we can do in certain situations. i'm more of a relisted and how we should deal with countries.

that is my take on my position. host: where do you think -- he's gone. let's hear from gary and new hampshire. i'm sorry, james and alabama -- in alabama on the democrats line. caller: this is james. i voted for democrats for years and years. my family has. i would like to know why the democratic party has got so corrupt. host: let's stick to the topic for america's role in the world. 20 think it is? -- what do you think it is? caller: the democrats want to be the dictator of the world sometimes, especially the democrats. if you don't vote democrat, they lock you up. chuck schumer and some of the others in the democratic party must think the american people are stupid. host: gary in new hampshire on the democrats line as well. caller: thank you for taking my call. i want to say thank you to our

veterans for making the sacrifices they made to defend our democracy. my dad was a veteran. i know what it's like. secondly, i don't know if you have a clip of the hearing from wednesday that representative ivey pointed at -- the point representative ivey made when it comes to donald trump as far as him getting away with what he's getting away with. trying to subvert our democracy. host: gary, we talk a lot about these issues and we will talk about them going forward but america's role in the world specifically. what do you think it is? caller: to defend our democracy and stop these countries from trying to take over the world. we definitely need to do that. host: why do you think that's important? caller: no country should ever, ever, ever try to ruin our democracy.

our veterans fought for our democracy and fought for our freedom and all the wars that were fought, that america fought in. our democracy and our freedoms need to be defended. host: gary there from new hampshire on america's role in the world and what you think the role it should take. several thoughts. you saw the poll from the associated press. pew asked people in other countries specific questions about america. one question was about the idea that united states contributed to peace and stability across the world and representing those of other countries. canada, for those canadians. 60% say the u.s. contributes to peace and stability. 39% saying it does not. amongst the list of countries, poland at the top with 85% of those polled saying america

contributes to peace and stability. that goes steadily down. low on the list is hungry with that hungry -- hungary. 34% say america contribute to peace and stability. there are other countries listed. if you're interested in that pew pole about america's role in the world. ed in pennsylvania, independent line. caller: good morning. i think thei/ war in -- in ukrae was provoked. the russians were provoked with the expansion of nato which provoked this conflagration in ukraine. we have to look at the landholdings in ukraine which are being controlled by cargo, by dupont -- cargill, by dupont.

the american people need to read. turn the tv off. host: why do you think -- how did you come to think that way? when it comes to ukraine, what is the proper role america should take? caller: i think that the expansion of nato has caused so much trouble. in the 1990's, gorbachev was assured that nato was not going to be expanding. that is why he left the reunification of germany. during the clinton administration and also the bush administration nato has been expanding. they are trying to surround the russians. because of that, russia, china and ellicott 2013 when victoria nuland went to kyiv and assisted over encouraged the overthrow in

2014. the brick people have to start reading. turn off the tv. host: -- republican line, go ahead. caller: our government has ripped this world to pieces. it has created chaos in every country we metal into -- meddle into. thing, it was nothing more than a color revolution in america, destroying our democracy. our country is so people. american -- is so evil. host: where has america been a destabilizing force? caller: the middle east. a destabilized middle east. they destabilized europe. look at ukraine and russia.

like the previous caller said, we caused this conflict between russia and the ukraine because they wanted to overthrow putin. that is how we did it, by creating this war. we created the havoc in iraq. we went into a war. we lied about it. now we lied about what's going on in israel, about was going on in iran. america once war and chaos everywhere -- wants war and chaos everywhere. host: estelle in ohio. wall street journal highlighting the president's speech from yesterday. saying that this year transatlantic relations is at an inflection point. mr. biden is at odds with many. after two years of combat in ukraine, the u.s. and europe are scrabbling to increase weapon deliveries to kyiv.

china is driving a years long pivot of u.s. forces towards the pacific and away from europe and the middle east. percent of republican presidential nominee donald trump expressed doubt over washington's long-term relations with allies, questioning the willingness to defend them against russian aggression. there is more there if you're interested in the wall street journal's coverage of the president's trip overseas. 10:00 this morning you can see the president making a speech not only reflecting the current celebrations of recent days to d-day but also the idea of protecting democracy across the world. that is at 10:00. the president meeting with ukraine's president zelenskyy today. arlene san -- he's anunng an aid packa

it is their first meeting since congress approved $61 billion for the country. here's a little bit about that funding from today. [video] >> as i said yesterday at the american cemetery, the ukrainian people have been incredibly brave. they have never given up. never even yielding. it's impressive. you saw the reception you received when everyone gave you a standing ovation, and it was deserved. you have not bowed down. you have not yielded at all. you continue to fight in a way that is remarkable. it's remarkable. we are not going to walk away from you. i apologize for the weeks of not knowing what was going to happen

in terms of funding because we had trouble getting a bill we had the past with the money in it from some of our very conservative members. we got it done finally. since then, including today, i have announced six packages of significant funding. i've also signed additional packages for $225 million to help you reconstruct the electric grid. once we got the national security bill passed, that was a political issue, and we were able to get it all done. the way you stood holding on and holding on to kharkiv and proving once again the people of ukraine will never be overtaken. i assure you the united states will stand with you.

i continue to say it. united states is standing with you. you are the bulwark against the aggressions that have been taking place. we have an obligation to be there. i'm looking forward to having a detailed discussion about where to go from here. we are still in completely. host: the president in france, expected to make comments and meeting with president zelenskyy. your thoughts on america's role in the world. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. s independent, -- independents, (202) 748-8002. tony from riverton, new jersey on the democrats line. caller: i wanted to caldremind y response to article five of nato has been after 9/11 for us. when we talk about the world's

interaction, our interaction with the world and the world's interaction with us . host: specify what you think america's role in the world should be then. caller: we should not be too overbearing but we are the largest and mightiest country in the world. we do hold some responsibility. host: when you say too overbearing, what do you mean by that? caller: a lot of people talk about we are forcing our views on people. i don't think we should be doing that. host: ok. next is grant in new jersey, democrats line. caller: good morning. i think we have had a long history of being a peacemaker in the world. president carter and obama both received [inaudible] i think president biden is

leading the way in regards to stabilizing the world as much as he can in a chaotic situation. i am a vietnam veteran. my daughter served in the marine corps and every member of my family has served in the military for 300 years. i very much appreciate the taken in trying to do as much as possible to bring peace to the world. host: some people talk about military installations and the military across the rld. do you think it is too much or just the right amount? what is that fall? caller: i personally don't think it is as much as it should be.

our military has been dramatically cut. the funding in regards to the air force is not really what it should be. at one time they could fight two wars simultaneously. sometimes they have trouble just carrying out the mission they have today. we would like to see funding for the military increased. host: grant giving us his thoughts on america's role in the world. this is sue from new jersey. our role should be to keep the peace by setting a good example. peoplerod the globe watch us closely. wresolve problems in a dignified way it sets the bar higher. patrick mcdonald from facebk says, my idea of ami's role is to promote friendship, learning, freedom and commerce th all people. build a fridsp alliance with countries that are like-minded and maintain alliance strength against those who aren't at our

at to others. -- and are a at to others. scott says to make it not a worse place. not trading in doing bu with nations to not our values like china. we destroy iame ourselves in the end and create migrant crisis at the southern border. we need to stop thinking globallyrms of business corporate profits and how and economically strong america can be the greatest force for good in the world. you can share your thoughts on social media on america's role in the world. facebook.com/cspan and at @cspanwj. randy on the republican line, you are next up. caller: hi. mi on the line now? dashcam i on the lineup -- am i on the lineup? we have to fund ukraine. ukraine used to have nuclear weapons. lynn -- clinton, when we were

cutting back under the weapons, he told ukraine get rid of your weapons. the nuclear weapons. w you. we have to support them. that is all i got to say. host: do you think that's the proper role america should take across the world? caller: yes. putin would not be there if they had nukes. because clinton got them to get rid of them we have to protect them. he said we will protect you if you get rid of your nukes. i think the uss to support them 100%. -- the u.s. has to support them 100%. host: ed in california. caller: the only winner is the american military complex at eisenhower warned about many years ago. ukraine was a beautiful country. now it is destroyed. gaza was a beautiful country. now it is destroyed. who is waiting?

i think joe biden will be down in history as the m. we have to pray for peace. people are dying everywhere. 40000 and gaza -- 40,000 in gaza. is not about religion. this not about countries. it's about humanity. this is the lowest point in history. hitler killed 6 million beautiful jews. now we are watching civilians getting killed, shredded. biden is talking with zelenyy mn military industrial complex. and nato has done more damage to europe than any other agency in history. orthank you very much. host: the front page of the washington post looks at strikes and gaza. -- in gaza.

israeli fighter jets appear to use u.s.-made munitions and a strike that killed dozens of people in a school in the central gaza strip on thursday according to five weapons experts. the israeli defense force said the aerotech had 3 -- aircraft at three precision weapons, including fighters who participated in the october 7 attack. the refugee camp was packed with thousands of civilians displaced by the war. the washington post has that story on the front page. mark in hawaii on the independent life. caller: the issue is that america has a bipolar attitude. the challenges -- the problems started 30 or 40 years ago. the population of gaza was 150,000 people 40 years ago. the population of israel was one million. now gaza has over till mean and

israel is over 9 million. they're putting pressure on the land and water and having israeli settlers invade palestine. these are challenging when you are scrapping over the remnants of planet earth. the problem with russia and ukraine is russia had the opportunity to go to nonnuclear in the 1990's. united states decided not to go nonnuclear. gorbachev offered to denuclearize. the american military-industrial complex according to eisenhower decided not to abide by that. instead of pushing towards true democracy in russia about the corporatists who allied with the fascists like putin and his cronies who built a corrupt state in russia. the problem is the bipolar attitude. the american dream is magnificent and the value of the american people is magnificent.

other agendas have screwed it all up. host: joanna in tennessee. caller: good morning. i'm going -- i was born in denmark in 1942 in the middle of the world work. i asked my mother when i was a little girl, what if the russians come? who is going to come and protect us? this is when i was about five or six years old. she would say i suppose america will. america always stood for me as a european, as a dane threatened by the germans who occupied us for five horrible years, america has always been a star in my mind. now i live here and i love this country. i am very scared for what is going to happen now. the world considered it the

century were america competes in the world. now it seems to me that americans don't want to do this anymore. you wonder if not america, who was going toe the world leader germany -- leader? germany? france? russia? europeans are scared that america cannot be counted on anymore. they are beginning to make their own arms and arming. they are very afraid of russia. my sister tried to come over to see me. a few years ago she was here and she came this year. she said i cannot believe the change in america. not a political change we are talking about. when she came the first time she was a young woman. she went back to denmark thinking america is fantastic. look at what we can do here, what you can buy here, how they

do things. when she came back this time and compared denmark to america. she said we are way ahead of american now. what has happened within the 40 years with our infrastructure, the way we think, the possibilities and personal freedoms? i shudder and i deeply scared when i think who it will go to. if we do not vote for the right president it will go to putin. host: giving those thoughts on not being born in this country. when asking people outside the u.s. what they think on certain things one of the categories they questioned people on was the majority of people who thought the united states interferes in the affairs of other countries. 86% of canadians saying the u.s. interferes versus 12%.

italy topping that list with 93% of those saying -- the uk thang 84% of those saying the u.s. interferes in other countries. poland is last on the list at 79%. that pew poll is that pew research about certain attitudes when it comes to america's role in the world. if you want to give your opinion on that. jack in maine on the democrats line. caller: good morning. i think the world is going to have a problem if donald trump is elected and the republicans and donald trump are elected. donald trump is a convicted felon. most of his cronies are convicted felons. if donald trump is elected he will appoint -- not get elected -- they will be appointed by trump. they will be the most callous

threat, hateful, vengeful psychopaths ever to rule any country in the history of the world. i don't to see that. i think the world should pray that does not happen. host: the topic is america's role in the world. how would you describe that? what is america's current role in the world? caller: the current role should be a leader. we should be leading the world towards peace when possible. when we have to say anything about wars, we should have a united front doing it. we don't have that with republicans. if you vote for republicans and/or donald trump, the world is going to be in big trouble. host: bonnie in pennsylvania on the republican line. caller: please give me a few minutes. i would like to say one thing. does anybody in this country ever had the -- has anyone in

this country have the ability to travel in the middle east? we cannot change countries' way of living. it's about power and money. nobody wants a war. the average human being does not want war. if we look back, and i don't mean to talk political, where where we four years ago? there was no war going on. we had peace. one thing was that nato has to pay the proper amount of money. we cannot continue to be the police of the world. we cannot change the world. we have to respect help people live in other countries. when i was in germany my brother graduated west point. i visited him. i was brushing my teeth one morning. he said turn the water off. you don't waste water. we are so fortunate here.

that is what happened to us. our military? we don't have a military anymore. our police are not strong. i hope we stop talking with politics and become one country. we did not have any wars for years ago. there was peace in the middle east. there was peace in ukraine. we have got to stop this. thank you so very much. host: it was in may where former president trump had a rally to talk about and commented on foreign affairs and the perspective he would bring if he gained a second term in the white house. [video] >> biden's weakness has led the planet to the edge of nuclear war. i will bring the world a glorus peace. i am the only one that can save

us. i know them all and they respect me. they don't respect our country anymore. it is a country in decline. they respect me. we will have it back very soon. we will have a great country very soon. i will prevent world war iii. on the only one that's going to do it -- i am the only one that's going to do it. you know, if i were president, if it was the election it should have been, you would never have had russia attacking ukraine. even democrats admit this. never did happen for four years. not even a discussion. russia would not be attacking ukraine. on october 7, israel would never have been attacked by iran. iran was broke. when i was president and -- iran was broke. i told china if you buy one barrel of oil from iran you will

not do business with united states. check it out. they did almost no business in selling oil, which is the lifeblood. we would have had a deal with when one week after the presidential election. you know what the deal would have been? it would have had one thing. iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. very simple. they cannot have a nuclear weapon. now they are 60 days from having a nuclear weapon. these people have done nothing. i gave it to them on a silver platter. i heard this from a democrat congressman on face the nation. ladies and gentlemen, deface the nation. he said i will admit under trump iran was broke. they had no money for hamas. no money for hezbollah. no money for terror. now they have $230 billion. they made it in three and a half years. we will get something done but it's a very precarious position.

i will prevent world war iii. we will have peace through strength. that is what we are going to have. host: that was from early may on the former president's thoughts on foreign policy. republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. new jersey, josephine, independent line. caller: good morning. i watched the commemoration of june 6. i saw all those veterans. the one thing that caught me and almost brought me to tears was when this whole jenna meant grabbed the hand of zelenskyy and said you were saving the world. zielinski said to him no, you saved the world. that all men had a right.

zielinski represents the world in this fight for freedom. where does the united states stand? with freedom. nato is our answer for peace and has been for 75 years. to put our heads in the sand is ignorance. it is said to see it. unfortunately when you watch the bbc and the other stations from japan and germany they are all preparing for trump's win. they are preparing -- they will isolate us. they are already making plans. owhere have we come to? host: it was part of those ceremonies yesterday, the commemoration that this news came out reported by the new york times about a world war ii veteran dying in route to a didi

event. 102 -- a d-day event. he was among the dwindling number of his generation still attending the day celebrations. -- d-day celebrations. he suffered -- he was airlifted to a hospital in germany. he had a history of heart problems. he told cbs affiliate in rochester that his cardiologist encouraged him to go. "i'm excited to be going." bill on the republican line on america's role in the world. caller: can you hear me? this is bill in florida. host: you are breaking up a little bit. if you can move your handset

closer to where the signal is sent. caller: it is 90 degrees down here. [inaudible] i'm 60 years old and i was in the milit,y [inaudible] in the early 1980's when reagan came in. the biggest thing i learned is that the best thing america can do [inaudible] spread capitalism throughout the world. nowhere does freedom thrive then and a country with the fairness of him being able to strive to have that business and can really end up promoting more freedom. i would say capitalism is one of the main things. the whole world is not think like that obviously.

that is one thing america can really promote. for the people that need to reacquaint themselves of the definition of capitalism, read find rant -- "the fountainhead" and their other books she has written regarding capitalism. host: john in maryland, democrats line. caller: to hear donald trump tell those boldfaced lies and those people out there whistling and carrying on. i don't watch baseball. i don't watch any sports at all keeping up with what is going on. i'm in maryland. the senate, congress, the supreme court. i keep up with what's what's going on. america is the biggest hypocrite you have relayed your eyes on. in this country what is important is profit and property. people are not important.

not in this nation, not anymore. i have never seen the african-american people be important. the d-day invasion, i have not heard anybody talk about the contribution african-americans made to anywhere in this nation. many african-americans died on d-day also but you don't know nothing about it. they were supply lines. but people don't know when you kill the supply line you have no army to fight. this nation right now with this understanding and the donald trump getting to be president, he will tell you what is going to do. host: you said things referencing or adjacent, what do you think america's role in the world is specifically? caller: right now nothing. you can't talk about how ukraine is being attacked by russia and then here benjamin netanyahu butchering people and biden is giving them money and equipment

to do it. you can't make that comparison like that to the world and say the world -- america is leading the world anymore. host: john in maryland. when it comes to the israeli prime minister, use coming out saying he will address congress on july 24 and an invitation extended by both the house speaker and the senate majority leader. look for that to happen next month when it comes to world affairs. it was senator roger wicker of mississippi and the recognition of the senate armed services committee and a recent op-ed calling for more military spending and talking about the laer issues of america's role. "we may find ourselves in a state of extreme vulnety in a matter of a few yea our milil-[■.ry at his that was point in decades as china's military hits its stride.

china has no such problems as it achilles the world leading hypersonic arsenal with mix of other leathal attack missiles." there was a response from the comes to senators commenting, a major mission embedded in u.s. strategy are staggering and number and size with a war with russia and china, a successful ention in the middlet, the new generation of nuclea apons, the race to integrate ai other imaging technology into a new way of warfare, and serve e arm supplier to the world's nation. this mission set is wildly unrealistia recipe for endless destabilizing conflicts up to and including a nuclear

confrontation. a balanced approach includes clemency, economic and cultural communications, and military deterrence." both of those are available online for intercity reading more. paul in new york on the democrats line. caller: this is paul. i'm on the air now? host: go ahead. caller: i will begin. i believen the world today is number one mischief maker. in the ukraine for instance i don't approve of putin going into ukraine but most of the story is not told. there was aected government in e ukraine and be over through it several years ago. then the story came out that gobbled up crimea. crimea was not gobbled up by russia. they voted to join russia in a

referendum. when the referendum was taken it was observed by international poll watchers from 12 different countries who will testify that it was a fair, free and open vote. the reason crimea gave for joining russian was they were afraid of us. they lost what we did ukraine and they were afraid of us. it's been a long time since these pictures have been aired but at the time we overthrew the democratic government there the people we put in power were photographed running through the streets carrying american confederate flags and nazi flags. i would say our number one role in the world is chief mischief maker. host: thank you. patrick in chicago on the republican line. caller: the premise of the question seems to be very nebulous. the focus of most people responding to it is military.

america's presence in the world . that is only one facet. it's a multifaceted question. the role of america is so diverse it is a question of military preparedness, a question of diplomatic processes, and life. that is also the role of america. host: how do you think those benefit other countries if those are the specifics? caller: it benefits other countries economically. it benefits the world defense wise. the idea of america is to be presented as ideal for the world. it has been historically accepted that way. confrontation, warfare, destruction. that is the way of the world. it has always been the way of the world.

pertaining to america, the concept that it is this one focus. america's military presence throughout the world. ller: it is so multifaceted. we have an obligation not only to the world but in all the occasion to ourselves in this country. it has been shown that through our presence the world has been made a better place. host: pat in wisconsin on the democrats line. caller: i want to address one of the things before i answer your specific question although it is related. first there was not peace when trump was in office. i don't over the last woman previously was living. we were in afghanistan if she recalls. that is a multifaceted question.

especially with your audience. let's face it, this audience is at a certain level of age. it is older. we need to understand this world is immensely small. every single thing that the united states does in every other country is triple the time that it takes for it impact us. example, the pandemic. we do have an obligation in the world because we have interfered in certain world -- in the past. look at guatemala. look at what happened in the central americas when we interfered in that and chaos that has ensued. to answer the question, we must protect the interests of

democracy. that means we do have to be in ukraine. really that is my comment on the subject. host: ken in new jersey on the independent line. caller: how are you today? host: go ahead. caller: no other nation in the world instigates issues around the world like united states does. when you hide behind terms like covert -- covert means illegal. an action typically not approved by the government. for example, in 1960, the congo, the united states led covert missions to remove the elected president who was assassinated and boiled in acid. the congo holds a vast majority of the earth's cobalt.

we always instigate things based on capitalism, based on wealth. going back to yesterday in regards to the veterans, it becomes more ironic. the same black veterans that served so honorably throughout every war in american history there have been mass lynchings. outside of just killing black veterans, black people, there has also been denial of opportunity of what capitalism is supposed to provide. basically saying they could not have -- not be part of the g.i. bill and get homes and loans and things like that. even right now to today there is an agenda. right now it is genocide. they are literally killing -- you were supplying a nation with weapons and hiding behind defending itself. host: one more call. sean and washington state,

independent line -- in washington state. caller: the lady before me, she did mention i was sen. hawley: and party -- we were at war four years ago. americans know we were at war. it would have been better if trump did not want to make love to dictators. kim jong-un. he wants to be putin's body. he crawled on his belly and surrendered 5000 taliban that killed 13 of our military. but they blame biden. he didn't release 5000. host: america's role in the world, how wou you describe it? caller: right now we are still trying to get over the hole

trump foot is in but we need to be around the world to protect the weak. that is what we are meant to be. we are americans. we are not republicans. we are not democrats. we are americans, people. host: sean in washington state finishing off the calls on america's role in the world. don't forget again but after this program shortly after president biden excted to make comments on the topics of freedom and democracy while he's traveling overseas. this will be from normandy. c-span as we can see it ever interested in that. you can see it in our app at c-span now and also at c-span.org available as well. several guest joining us throughout the morning. the job numbers come out later today. joining us to discuss how jobs and those looking for work in the united states are being impacted by the current economy of the united states, emily peck

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even if you warrant, there was a job for you. at one point, there were two job openings for every unemployed worker in the u.s.. jobs were right for the picking and it was a job hopper's paradise. that's when we heard great resignations. now things are more back to normal. they are back to a good normal so the number of job openings we have right now is basically back to where it was in 2019 which was a record level. for people looking for jobs especially white-collar workers, it's become a lot harder to find work. host: why is that? guest: employers have a little bit of uncertainty. the economy now is still growing but it's growing at a slower pace. things are slowing down. employers don't want to do layoffs. layoffs are low so they are not letting people go but they are not in any rush to hire. people looking for jobs are

finding they have to go through 3, 5, eight interviews with different people and they have to do all kinds of tests to make the grade, sometimes after doing that, they are getting ghosted and no one gets back to them. it's a lot harder and things are moving slower because of that uncertainty. host: when you talk about the jobs that people are looking for now and you talked about white-collar workers, if that's the case with them, what about other levels of work whethe's ir something like that? are there similarities in what you see with white-collar workers? guest: i think the white-collar market is the slowest piece. in other sectors, things are still great. i heard from some people after my story came out saying i don't know what you are talking about. it's never been better for me out there. in retail, health care, government work those sectors are still hiring.

not at the gangbusters levels of a few years ago but still at a healthy clip. host: what does it mean that when someone is looking for work, they get to an interview and they are scoping outhings like salary and benefits and other things. what are employers now willing to give up compared to what we saw during the pandemic? guest: what i've been hearing is employers are not as willing to give things up. one woman told me a talent coach works with a lot of people said their first offer is often their last offer where maybe before, when the job market was really hot and employers would be willing to go up a lot in salary and benefits, these days, not really. host: our guest is with us to talk about the state of those looking for work securely in the current u.s. economy. if you want to ask questions about that or offer your own experience, for those of you employed out there, it's (202) 748-8000, if you are looking for

work, call us at (202) 748-8001. if you are an employer and you want to give your perspective, (202) 748-8002. (202) 748-8003 for all others. you can also send us a text at that same number. you can give us your thoughts on that. if i'm an employer, give the employer perspective. what are they facing? employers are facing an uncertain time.we are heading into an election. guest: in a way, the election offers uncertainty. it's an uncertain time, there is wars and it's been years and years of never before seencircue united states. i think employers are braced for things. they've seen a boom and now they are seeing a slow down and there

are some concerns about over hiring for expanding right now. host: how much of that is connected to this idea of inflation? we talk about it all the time but when it comes to the jobs, how to those two things relate if there is a relation? guest: there is a relation. what's happening now with jobs is slowing and cooling which is good. it's exactly with the federal reserve wanted when it started raising interest rates with the intent to slow inflation. in the job market, it was hot and there were two jobs for every unemployed person, that was feeding into an asian, that kind of growth and wage growth feeding into price growth. now that things have slowed, it's actually good for inflation although it can feel painful to someone looking for work and having a harder time than they were before. host: later on this morning, a

little bit, we will see the jobs numbers come out for may and we don't know what we will see but the headlines i've seen leading up to it say things like the may jobs report will shed light on how much the economy has slowed this year. is there a way to suss out what we may see today? guest: it's hard to predict. economists are forecasting that the u.s. added about 180,000 jobs in may which would be slower than the average for the past year which has been around 240,000 which is phenomenal job growth. there have been signs coming into today's job market that things are slowing down. there is the report called the jolts report that tracks job openings and layoffs and quits. the gdp report showed a slowdown

also. there's been numbers on wage growth slowing down. expectations coming in for this jobs report are that the labor market is slowing down once again. it's one of those things where for normal people, the labor market slowing down is not the greatest news you've ever had. but for the federal reserve and people who care about the markets and people care about inflation, the job market slowing down is actually somehow still good news. it's one of those what's good for the markets may not be good for the person trying to live their life. host: this is emily peck joining us from axios and you can ask her questions. for those employed, (202) 748-8000. if you're looking for work, (202) 748-8001. (202) 748-8002 and everyone else, (202) 748-8003 and you can use that same number two textus if you want to text is your thoughts this morning.

let's hear from an employer joining us from california. you are on with our guest, go ahead. caller: thanks for taking my call. i made paving contractor for parking lots and streets. i cannot find labor for the life of me. i'm about to have to close my business. there is illegal labor but nobody will step up to shovel hot asphalt. host: is it the nature of the work or money that's offered? what factors into th? caller: we pay really good wages. we cannot pay union wages but we only need 8-12 employees we can't it's impossible. host: ok, that's paul's perspective. what do you take away from that? guest: it's sort of what i was saying before because some

sectors are doing better than others i think construction -- he pays well but some of the lower paying sectors aren't doing as well. host: kathleen is next in mississippi, go ahead. caller: good morning. host: you are on, go ahead. caller: the reason i'm calling is is a cdl driver. ever since he got out of college and graduated, he's been a cdl driver. they sent him to places in mississippi to get the cdl license. don't certify him to give him his license. this is the second time so he has to go out of his pocket again and we don't have no

money. the first time was $85 for the cdl license. the second time is $162. he cannot get a dot license online to get a cdl truck driving. he's up for a job but we don't have no money to get the license. what happens when the place closes down and you get a cdl? you go to the driving license and you go online at the dot office and he can get a job which he is looking for. most people don't believe what's going on here. we just see the backside of everything. we pay more than the rich and the rich is paying nothing. i will just listen to your answer. host: that's kathleen in

mississippi. anything from that? guest: everyone struggles with their job and it highlights how the job market is different for every american in the u.s. it's hard to drill down into specifics. it's still a good job market so i hope that your son is able to resolve this. host: do you think it will change the nature of how people prepared to go to work if less people went to college or more people take up the trades or if there are alternative ways to pick up jobs? guest: in this current economy, there are opportunities for people who are not going to college. if you look at the data, college graduates are the ones who are in the most money and have the lowest unappointed rates that continues to be true. host: from ted calling on the employer's line in hawaii. caller: hello. nice to speak to you.

i would like to talk to a big part of the problems that this lady is speaking to -- people these days just don't quite have the stick to i iiveness that people had 10-20 years ago. you have to fight for your job but people don't want to hire them because they train them and go away. they don't stick to it. host: what's your business? caller: macadamia nut processing. host: as far as employment and getting workers, was your experience with that? caller: a lot of people come to apply for a job and i got to sift rhythm and i see a lot of people that get hired and they don't stick to it. they stay for a few days. it seems in my generation people

had moreyy sticktoitiveness. it's not easy so stick to it. host: this idea people coming for work and were there expectations -- did the pandemic or the impact from it have changed expectations from what employers might be looking for? guest: i think the pandemic changed workers expectations for what they wanted out of work. we so that for a while. a lot of people, there is a great resignation with people living there jobs and getting jobs that maybe paid better or they were more suited to and there was also a realization many workers that there is more to life out there that work. an increasing demand for better work/life balance. just like the caller said, maybe not a lack of sticktoitiveness

but at the job is eight hours a day, you don't have to work 10 hours a day. suddenly in the wake of the pandemic, and that shakeup, people realize there's more to life and i will do other things. there is that element out there. i would also sayime immemorial, older employers and managers have said workers today are not as good or hard-working as they were back in my day. i've been hearing that for 20 years about the millennials and now it's about gen z. i think there is something evergreen about that sentiment. host: for those of you who are employed and you want to talk about your experiences ie (202) 748-8000 if you're looking for work, (202) 748-8001 if you are an employer, (202) 748-8002 and all others can give

us a call at (202) 748-8003. you recently wrote a story taking a look as a sidebar to what ware talking about, is the perception of how people view their own finances versus how people view the economy overall. there is a big gap between those two. can you elaborate? guest: it's a striking cap. i was pulling data from the federal reserve survey they do every year. they found about 72% of americans when you asked them how they are doing financially, they say they are doing a day or better. then you ask them about the national economy and they own -- and only 30% of them say is doing well. there is this big split. it's interesting to think about the does i guess people don't think that they are doing well is a sign the economy is doing well. it's a different mindset or a

different way of looking at things and they don't link this. host: let's hear from gary on our line for others. he's in connecticut, go ahead. caller: good morning. i am retired. i collect social security and i work part-time. i don't really have a problem with the economy. for me it's doing just fine and it has been for quite a few years. the major reasono i'm calling is i am totally intrigued by the rendering of the hindenburg disaster which is hanging on ms. peck's back wall and i would love a she could provide some genesis on it area host: thank you. guest: that's the cover of a well-known led zeppelin album that i'd like for a long time. i put it up on my wall. not any statement on the hindenburg disaster. host: here's a text --

guest: that's a good question. to answer the second part first, i don't think -- i will predict it -- we won't get to a point where there is no jobs for humans. that said, there is a lot of automation happening and has been happening for a long time. that's probably not the worst thing because the working eight population in the united states long-term is shrinking. there is going to need some -- to be some automation to make up for that shortage and it will get worse over the next few years unless something drastic changes like we see more immigration or the birth rate picks up. we do need some of that automation. some of the jobs being replaced

or not the best jobs i would say either. people get an opportunity to move into better jobs which is the optimistic view on automation. host: we hear about automation so what about the future of jobs? guest: it's paul really knew and think artificial intelligence is being incorporated into jobs. for a lot of people, it's making jobs more efficient and easier to do. i covered a study a while ago about call center workers using ai to basically become just as good were more experienced call center workers. unless -- it lets people get up to speed and train faster and handle more work at one time. that will keep happening and for some work in some jobs, they are

probably going to go away and that's really painful. for others, it's going to make work different, maybe easier or more efficient. host: from colleen in connecticut who describes herself as looking for work, good morning and thanks for calling. caller: good morning. i'm not really job hunting. i just turned 26 yesterday and i'm obsessed and some days i'm doing 100 applications in the interviews -- i get a few interviews and my resume is ok but it's us -- but it's super competitive year. host: what would you like air guests to elaborate on? -- our guest to elaborate on? caller: finding something decent here, it's few and far in between. you need like that high engineer

degree, the high-paying jobs. it's so competitive. host: the idea of competitiveness for those looking for work? guest: things are really competitive. as i said earlier, if you had been looking a couple of years ago, it probably would've been easier but especially with higher-paying jobs, it's pretty cutthroat and employers have their pick. that's really tough. what i am hearing is that if you stick with it, you ultimately get work but it's not so easy. applying for a job is a job in and of itself. host: she mentioned indeed and other types of technology so how has that changed the jobseeking process? guest: on the one hand, it makes it easy. the caller just mentioned applying to like 100 jobs. that would've been difficult to pull off a couple of decades ago. now you can just blastoff

resumes on linkedin or indeed. an algorithm on the others is looking for keywords. it makes it easier to up the volume of applications but if you're not careful to personalize those applications and take care with them, it could make it harder. host: silver spring, maryland, employed, thanks for calling. good morning. i am in property management here in the greater washington, d.c. area one of the things i want to say especially after the pandemic, one of the things i've experienced has been where it's been a little bit longer where previously, i would do an eight hour day and now we are doing like nine hour days. in property management, we do

leasing and commission based and salary based. one of the things i've seen is post-pandemic's property managers or management companies have taken the approach where some of the commissions that they would have paid for the leases for the leasing agent or property managers for the building have decreased. some of that i think is to offset some of the losses from the pandemic. as an employee, i think it's not fair because we are kind of made to work a little bit longer especially with the kind of building that i manage. it's kind of a half,s@ó student- regular working folks.

we have high moveouts and move ins. i feel as though in some industries post-pandemic, it's gotten to the point where you are expected to work a little bit more but wages and earnings are not reflecting that same kind of workflow. it's kind of difficult and when you are trying to look for something better as other callers have said, it's very competitive in the market. you kind of have to weigh the options that if i leave this job to go to another one, will that be better. it puts you in an awkward situation. needless to say, it's tough out here for employees. staying optimistic and positive i think is the best way to go forward. host: that's giving us a lot.

let's start with something he said. before the pandemic, if you went somewhere to work for eight hours a day and we w flexibility during the pandemic, how much of that flexibility is still with us? guest: surprisingly a lot of that flexibility is still with us. the last time i wrote about it, the share of workers in hybrid roles was in the 20ish percentage area. we seem to have settled into the hybrid arrangement as most popular way to go at least in the white collar space. people seem to want some in person interaction but they want that flexibility of being able to stay home. speaking of competitive job market, anyone looking for remote work or hybrid arrangements, those of the jobs that are becoming harder and harder to get. employers continue to not really like that arrangement. not all of them but a lot of

them. host: what's the main reason for that? guest: managers like to see people. managers continue to like when people are in their seats. they get a better sense of people are working and i can see them. a lot of people think and believe and said in person interaction can be serendipitous to more creativity and productivity for workers. ome evidence of that also. with good reason, employers want people in person. and maybe that's why we landed on hybrid because i think a lot of people agree it's good to be in person but they still want that work life balance, that flexibility that remote work offers. host: let's hear from russell in massachusetts, go ahead. caller: good morning. i've been listening for a lot of

this. i can probably tell you that's why most americans are stuck when it comes to employers. there's a difference between having a household and maintaining it and providing for it and then there is selective. i hire a lot of these kids and i own a landscape business. i find more and more that these kids are stuck standing in ways on cell phones and everything else. i hire a few ecuadorians and a few other nationalities when i go to my place is a business i've had for 25 years i've noticed that the customer say they don't want them here. that's what it's come down to. i can tell you this -- i don't see how immigration -- immigrants but if you going to three quarters of our workplaces, americans are not in their.

go on roofs, americans are not there. i'll be honest with you, americans are choosy with what they do. there is competitive work. it is not competitive it won't last very there is a difference between generation z and the rest of them where they are standing their idle and your customers are you saying hey they are on the phone. it puts the business in a tough position because as a landscaper it causes me a and i hear from my customers with the gas prices and this. that's one thing i wanted to bring because i hear a lot of this and that but a lot of pe d understand as a business owner i will put the price i see fit, that's the right we have just like gas companies will rise what they want. there's a lot, people need to understand the geographic of it.

host: anything from that? guest: not really. host: let me ask a question on your markets newsletter on the one big thing section. the caller referred to it saying how immigration is boosting job growth. can you elaborate on that? guest: this is a fascating story we have had at the outset really strong job growth over the past two years in the average this year has been about 240,000 jobs per month. as it turns out about half of that job growth is coming from immigrants. they have bolstered the job market for the past two years. if you remember back to the sort of 2021 post-pandemic there were massive job shortages. we had one caller who cities he is having trouble finding workers. back then it was a lot of places. restaurants and retail and construction, everyone was short

workers but we had the surge of immigration and it's been really amazing for the job market and e research that shows it boosted gdp overall and certainly boosted the labor market and it helped moderate inflation a little bit because there's not like overheated demand for workers because we have that supply the immigrants coming in and taking some of the jobs, for some people don't like that and they feel like immigrants are pushing down wage growth but overall it's been really good for the economy and moderating for inflation. host: you can find her work at axios.com and markets and other related things. thanks for your time. host: thank -- guest: thank you so much. host: we will meet the national cochai of the comet's party usa talking about their coention in chicagond their efforts leading up to the convention and the election and the issues.

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>> washington journal continues. >> joining us is the national cochair of the communist party of the united states. here to talk about their convention and issues related and of interest to their party. thank you for your time. >> thank you for having us. host: for those were not familiar with your party in the u.s., how is it started and what's the main driver of the commonest party usa? guest: the party has a long and storied history in our country, it was brought together in the early part of the last century, we have over 100 years -- i think 100 and three this september, it came together as a result of the struggles and difficulties that we're -- that were faced by working people in this country particularly after

the first world war. there were labor strikes, huge amounts of discrimination against african-americans who were in the process of migrating from the deep south to the midwest and north. and west coast. , there were immigrants that were coming from europe who were fleeing the aftermath of that terrible war and all of these issues produced the circumstances in which the party was born. in 1917 in november according -- october according to the russian calendar, there was the russian revolution. which for the second time in history you had a situation in which working people took decisive action to take control

over our lives and founded a working-class state. so these were -- the confluence of the circumstances came together and helped birth our party and many other parties around the world. host: it's your 32nd national convention this weekend. what is the purpose of the convention and particularly in an event -- in an election year, what are your interests? guest: it is a place where the rank and file of the party, the -- we organizing what we call party clubs in cities across the country. it's a time when we come together like most organizations and other political parties and discuss our previous work and assess, criticize, put forward plans to move the work forward,

so that's what we will be doing over the next three days. and of course the fact this convention is taking place in an election year makes it especially important because there are huge stakes in this election. it's been said and i think it is true that it may be a turning point election in the history of our country. on the one side you face what we think and many others a fascist like danger coming from trump and maga, and on the others you have a progressive coalition that has emerged to move the country in a mdly democratic direction.

of course that is circumscribed by the problems we have around the planet, climate change, a huge issue. probably a growing emergency and then you have this terrible genocidal war in gaza conducted by the israeli right, funded by our tax dollars which we think is a disgrace. and then of course you have the situation in ukraine and the russian invasion, and invasion that needs to stop, of the troops need to be withdrawn. expanding and the world in eastern europe and the former soviet need to be able to determine their own destinies like people around the world.

spotlight congo and haiti and so forth. we are in a very important and unique moment in our lives in the big thing and important thing i think is in our country, more and more -- you find more average rank-and-file people who are taking greater initiative to take control over their lives and we saw that in the women's movement after the dobbs decision where their rights to control over their was abrogated by the supreme court and it's just been an explosion to reclaim that right and democratic right which is very important. but that also includes voting rights, it includes the right to health care, the right to have a

decent place to live and so on and so forth. these are issues that are at stake coming up in november. host: if you want to ask questions of our guest you can do so on the lines. 202-748-8000 for republicans. democrats, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. if you're a member of the communist party in the united states and want to ask a question, that is 202-748-8003. you can also use that same number to text us your thoughts as well. how many people in your party you said you referenced it will convention this week include an endorsement of a presidential candidate? guest: we do not endorse candidates from other political parties. we never have. i doubt that we will.

our electoral strategy is based on issues. so we are taking a look at who supports the rights of workers to organize. who supports environmental regulation, who stands for abortion rights, who is taking a position that would reduce the amount of gun violence in the country and put an end to these terrible massacres that a been happening around the country. it's not so much for personalita contest of programs. with respect to the amount of people who in our party rather we are very happy to say that the party has been growing tremendously over the past several years.

starting today after trump -- starting the day after trump was elected we saw increases in applications for membership. another big sequence was after bernie sanders dropped out the first time he ran and this was by people who had supported him but who were very disappointed in how they perceived the way senator sanders was perceived by the democratic party leadership at the time. and so that when we do a mailing today, we mail close to 20,000 people and our ability to organize and continue that growth is only limited we think at this stage by our resources and our ability to organize. if you're interested in joining

you can write to us. host: first call for yusor coming from angela in pennsylvania, independent line. you are on with our guest, good morning, go ahead. caller: mr. sims, please don't take any of my questions is a form of disrespect. but i've never heard of the communist party of the united states. and honestly it kind of scares me. i was listening to what you were saying about trump and biden and quite frankly in my opinion i feel like the democrats have tried to turn us into a socialist communist nation. i don't want to be controlled by the government and i respect your right to organize and to speech and i don't want my right

stifled, so in your party, can you explain to me how your government would run? as opposed to what we already have? because i believe in my second amendment, i have a gun to protect myself from a taranto government entity for my home. but if you come down with we are to snatch up everybody's guns, i will turn mine in, but the gang members aren't going to turn there is in. so therefore you're putting me at risk on that one. and then with climate change, there's only one solution to that and that's to put a dome across america because you never can get china to comply. it's just like i'm confused. host: got your points out caller, thank u for calling. guest: thank you for your

question. no one is going to be taking away your gun, that's not the issue. i do think the military budget is a big issue in the amount of money that we are spending on arms and shipping them all over the world i'd say that's a gun issue. i think with respect to the issue of gangs, one of the things we have to do is to address the drug crisis in the country. mca lot of the gangs are organid around the distribution of illegal substances and i think that we have to take a public health approach. the communist party is not in favor of big government. that's not what we stand for. we stand for the right of ordinary working class people

like yourself to have the right to have control over your life. to control over what you produce and to control how that is distributed. so it's not about restricting people's rights it's about empowering working people to be able to control our own destinies. i do not think that at this day and time we need filthy rich people who really don't produce anything■í■+ determining how the country is run and what we are able to see on television and listen to on the radio or here in social media and that is what is increasingly, the mass media is increasingly controlled by international financial and

media conglomerates. it's not a good thing. that needs to be democratized and the party stands for that kind of international cooperation to make that happen. i think with respect to china, i believe that the chinese people and their leadership want their children and grandchildren to be able to breathe and live a free of environmental pollution and toxic waste and so on and so forth. so we have to find points of agreement to bring this under control before it gets so out of control that we risk the extinction of the species. host: let's hear from michigan. republican line, good morning you are on with the guest. caller: thank you for putting me

on. i remember, i'm 90 years oldnd i remember in chicago my father was a dentist and he used to go to the ymca every day for lunch and i discovered later in my life that that was where one of the first communist parties started at the ymca in chicago. and then they spread out. we are a constitutional republic. and there is something different between capitalism and communism and if there had been people controlling my father's regulations he never would've invented the process for the gold inlay. we need the freedom thawa host: nancy there in michigan.

guest: thank you nancy, i'm not familiar with what happened at the ymca in chicago. i know previously with a big and strong party in chicago that produced many great leaders and scientists and artists. richard wright was one of them. but again, there's been a big lie told to the american people and that lie has been that our social system is antidemocratic, is meant to control and to restrict and of course i would not sit here and tell you that

mistakes and difficulties and some crimes were committed during the course of socialist construction, but in this country, what happened to our party was that the big government, big corporations during the mccarthy period restricted our right to speak, restricted our right to teach and in fact through us into jail and fired us from jobs in order to protect what they consider to be a threat from the left. and so, the issue of repression is not one that is unique to any particular social system.

we have to learn the lessons from our history. and i think that means being vigilant and it also means coming together to protect and fight for the common good and that is what the communist party does. again if you are interested in finding out about us, or joining us, write to us at cp usa@cpusa.org. host: independent line, fred is in philadelphia. caller: good morning. i just have a couple of questions. one, years ago i met jarvis tyner who ran for the vice president ticket with gus hall. we never talk politics or anything like that but my question for you is who is actually funding? are you funded through the

commonest party in russia in different places like that? that's just my question. guest: not at all. we don't receive funding from any foreign power or foreign corporation unlike some of the candidates here. we don't get any money from any domestic corporations, jeff bezos or elon musk or the head of chase manhattan bank is not supporting us, we get our resources from average ordinary working class people, some of whom donate their money to us in their wills. some of whom, most of whom actually support us financially through their dues.

we have annual fund drives for our press, people's world.org. we are celebrating the 100th anniversary of the working-class press, the daily worker and people's world this year. i'm glad you mentioned jarvis tyner, he is a great figure, civil-rights labor, african-american in our movement from west philadelphia. i will be seeing jarvis later d i will be sure to tell him that somebody was on the program today that once met him. thank you for calling. host: there is a history professor at hamilton college named maurice i sermon who writes a book about communism particularly roast -- wrote a american communist in the 20th century included in the ranks td genuine idealism. theiwillingness to support

their boat -- best in sinks i eight flawed and relevant historical model and in doing so they helped set back for generations the opportunities for the emergence of a genuinely american left. what you think of that perspective. guest: i read that article and i think when the russian revolution took place, the socialist experience was brand-new. we did not have an ability to have the background in building a new society. you have to remember that the socialist movement is a movement of ordinary working class people. you don't have the background hg

and producing and distributing and administering a society. and they are not to teach it to you or you have to learn it yourself and we find a number of developing countries with these kind of problems with are cap are not provided the opportunity, when their labor is exploited, you spend all your time trying to survive. so i think there is an element of truth and what he says in the sense that we copied the soviet model because it was the only model. and a lot of other organizations and movements around the world did as well. and of course there were many positive developments in that

experience, there were a number ■# of important social and economic and political gains that the working people obtained in the former soviet union. but i think our evolution led us to understand we need to create a model of socialism in this country that's based on the united states and not on any other country. we have to take into account others'experience, but the formula that we use, of the structures that we build has to grow out of our own history and our own culture and the best of our traditions and i think that the working-class people, the broadly defined and that includes scientists and academics and steelworkers and

nurses and doctors and lawyers and dentists, all of us have to together to build a new productive and empowering society and i think that is possible. so yes we made some mistakes, that learn from them, but the biggest mistake that has been made was i think by sections of the left during the mccarthy to come to the repression the took place and in so doing, they helped set back the labor movement for many decades and we are only beginning to see now a revival

of labor and the republican right is attempting to push away . by labeling everything, every advance that is occurring in our country as being socialism. so they tell this incredible tale about biden being a socialist heard nothing could be further from the case. host: this is from james in kansas, republican line. caller: yes. my question to you is what is the parties viewpoint on china and also the feature of china and u.s. relations. guest: thank you james. we think that china is a country that is coming into its own. they are a proud and brilliant

people. who were horribly oppressed during the period of colonialism. i just read recently about how the british invaded china and the point was to convince the chinese government to convince the chinese people to purchase opium that they were producing in order to utilize that to create assets. they were invaded by japan and i think they are rightfully of the opinion that the preservation of their country and culture and all of the different ethnicities of people is extremely important and that they do not want to be trampled on by anybody.

of course no country is different. we can all understand the right of any people to their own dignity and they are trying to build a model of socialism based onheir own history and traditions. they call it socia wthey have n, but they are striding and they are very honest about that. i think the people of the united states and the people of china and other countries around the world, we need to put aside our differences and find the common things that we can work on in order to ensure our mutual survival. and i think that that's the most important issue before the country and before the world at this perilous moment in our history. host: the website for our guest organization is cpusa.org.

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it's not mind it's not the government. i think that some thing a lot of voters can find refreshing. >> what would a libertarian administration look like if you are to become president? >> if i entered the office of the president, it will be a weaker office when i leave than when i take office. that's because so much of what the; president has done over my lifetime as a result of the legislature falling asleep at the wheel and giving so much executive overreach of the president. mine would be one that exercises the presidency within constitutional bounds but also things like balancing our budget at least if we can get a lower than that and really make drastic changes to our priorities at home and abroad in a way that affects the constitution and the individual rights and simply delivered -- civil liberties of all. >> we were talking what america's role in the world when it comes to foreign interest. how would a libertarian approach look under your administration.

>> i think it's time we stop exporting our values via militarism by the bomb and the bullet. free-trade and voluntary exchange is a better way to forge a relationship with international neighbors. if i'm buying or selling something to you there's a good reason for us not to want to shoot at each other and bomb each other so i think forging market relationships and tearing down protectionism that we've seen with these tariffs from joe biden and donald trump i think we can tear these down and start to export our values via diplomacy and trade instead of bombing people around the world which is what we've done my entire adult life. host: how did you become a member of the libertarian party. >> i was a disaffected obama voter in 2010 as part of the antiwar movement and i happened to wander upon the libertarian party of georgia. they were out there the atlanta pride festival with their candidate for governor, he literally waved me into the tent

and help me connect my antiwar views with the -- my journey started there and it was a full-fledged party member by 2014. i vote for gary johnson in 2012. , really it's been a journey from 2010 to 2014. now i'm a hard-core libertarian running for president. host: what's your political background and what you do for employment? caller: i got started -- guest: i got started in antiwar activism. i moved into criminal justice reform and i've been a member of the libertarian party since 2014. i worked for libertarian nonprofits particular group called outright libertarians that was connecting the lgbtq community with libertarianism. and i have also run for house and u.s. senate in 2022. now i'm running for president. my professional background, i

got started in restaurants prayed my first was being a dishwasher has been 13 years in the industry working at every level of restaurants, got out of that and got into the world of maritime logistics moving goods from one side of the world to the other and gave me a greater appreciation for free markets. right now i'm full-time running for president using life savings and what i can to make do but i am on the road full time now running for president. host: what does the infrastructure look like across the united states for the libertarian party, ballot access, what do you have out there. >> we are thrilled to be on the ballot in every state if not nearly every state. we are running ballot access drives across the country, we are on the ballot in 37 states and we will comfortably be on the most ballots of any candidate, right now we are ahead of rfk so if we get debate inclusions we should be looked at in terms of that that we will be on the ballot for most

americans. >> if you want to ask questions, republican 202-748-8000. democrats 202-748-8001. independents 202-748-8002. libertarian party members if yo, 202-748-8003. you can also send us a text at that number as well. let's hear from some callers. marian in georgianñ up first. democrats line for chase oliver, a libertarian presidential nominee. good morning. caller: good morning. this is sort of a sad day for me because of the cable cost to get your channel. it's the only thing i watch and that's where i get so much incredibly important news, that's how i informed myself all the time. my cable cost for $130. i couldn't afford it more so this is my last call after eight years of calling in every 30 days.

i want to ask a libertarian isn't it -- would you be part of your campaign to make c-span available to everybody. fee like you do for hulu or something like that. this is very important especially when we keep talking about how we need to be informed and we need to know more about government but then the channel that is probably the most important for people to watch, most people cannot afford it. anyway i want to tell you before i leave since my cable is going to be going off on the 17th thank you so much. you have been so important for my learning about our government , about politics, about hearings and what's going on in this country. i am so sad the cable channels are the only ones who do it.

thank you. host: thank you for the culprit we are funded by cable. i know you can expand out and listen to us on the app and the web for your content to expand on -- efforts to expand on other platforms as well. checks out on a lot of different fronts including cable. arizona republican line, william, hello. caller: thank you for having me. you kinda tweaked my interest when you actually said that you were not interested in taking my property. does that include reaching into my pocket to take my money every month? i'm a disgruntled republican. i have been since george bush. but i'm an equal opportunity disgruntled person. it doesn't matter democrat, republican, i'm just sick of the whole bunch.

one of the reasons i voted for donald trump initially is because he was not a politician. but i'm interested how would you reaching into my pocket as far as taxes go. that is my property. guest: we libertarians do believe in taxation as theft so we need to have a government the does that as low as possible if not outright eliminate them altogether. to do that we have to reduce the size and scope of what government does. we have to reduce these programs and things the government does. if we reduce taxes without reducing spending we are creating inflation where the government will print money out of thin air to cover the cost. i want to reduce taxes much in your pocket as possible but that's required us to reduce and be bold about it. republicans and democrats have let yourow and grow and many republicans they speak --

they talk the talk but rarely walk the walk when it comes to action reducing government and taxation in our lives. she's talking a cost-of-living increasing. this is caused by the very inflation we talked about. the reason she's having trouble paying her bill is because we continue to print money out of thin air making dollard that's a hidden task that hits every household. it's something that we seek to fight against. the excess growth of government. we will reduce that tax impact in your life as much as possible. host: i hear that a lot, how do you build on>> any time you takm someone without their consent, without their permission and use it to spend it on something else that is theft. using the force of government. the government has a monopoly on force in doing so they are taking from people and spending on things they don't want to spend. people don't want to spend their tax money on wars around the world.

on programs that are redundant and broken bread they would much rather allocate those resources better with their own market decisions instead of sending that to central planners in washington or the statehouse. host: how do you balance those two things? >> are north stars to get the down to where those are voluntarily funded to those who see value in them. i see value in having fire departments and i think ultimately we can choose to voluntarily fund those things. that's the abstract northstar. right now what we need to be doing is reduce the overall impact of taxation on our lives most people are saying i wouldn't mind having a fire department or police department but all the excesses and regulations that's what they don't want and we need to eliminate that as much as possible. and bring government back to most local government as possible. >> from mississippi this is brian, democrats line. caller: good morning.

my response this morning, i want to redirect my question to ask the guest this morning what would be the libertarian parties response particular in terms of america's foreign policy, what would be a response to the emerging communist threat we are seeing not only stateside, we saw the comet's party usa but alkmso with the emergence of cha and russia, north korea, international communist alliance we are seeing. the reemergence of the east, it would be the libertarian party strategy to be able to be able -- we are living in the second cold war with so many articles, but the thing i but with the emergence of this new communist threat we are seeing here what would be the libertarian party's

response in laying out america's national defense, america's response being able to counter this threat so we would be able to have a country for the next 50 to 100 years and possibly the risk of all-out warfare. thank you. guest: first of all i don't fear the communist party usa at all. but not to make any headway in their elections. the u.s. likes the free market and the ability to buy things and they don't eat central planners controlling their life. certainly not the aspect of the commons party usa. rising nations that are commonest or socialist being a threat mention china specifically. what we need to do is pare -- teardown trade barriers and hold them to free trade and right now they are manipulated their currency in the markets. you can only do that soh long fr you have a collapse. continue to show how powerful our free market economy is and

certainly trade wars hurt both of us. trade wars and tariffs affect the tax that's paid by consumers. i think the way we can stave off some of these foreign policies we need to secure ourselves. we don't need to be the world's policeman but can protect our own sovereignty. the way we change relationships around the world continuing to push through diplomacy through free-trade and tearing down market barriers. the reason north korea can be a dictatorship is because they blocked themselves off from the world. ■x■jthe more we open up, the far the socialist barriers fall down. look no further than how quickly east germany and berlin adopted capitalism once the berlin wall fell. we need to tear down these metaphorical walls, trade barriers and stop being so militaristic. i think they're better ways to contain communism and one of

them is by actually unleashing the power of the free market by removing socialistic elements in our own government. of market decisions guide our economy. >> this is ralph are our guest. host: good -- caller: good morning, i'm proud running alongside you as vice president. i know you've talked about -- i was wondering how much gold and silver factor in as far as having money. would you be open to reintroducing gold and silver into circulation alongside the u.s. dollar. guest: absolutely i believe opening up the currency market is much as possible. i do support crypto and alternative currencies. i would like to return our money back to something that is sound. it can be gold, silver, it can

be saffron. but find some sort of resource that we can tag a value to. that's allowed for this inflation to explode. i think we can get back to that it would take a lot of work to get it done but i think libertarian minded people to start looking at monetary policy getting under control. that something i would like to see. these kinds of things are kind of the abstract for many american voters but libertarian minded people it something we been looking into for a long time it's what we need to get libertarians in office to show what real monetary policy looks like and how they can value each and every american family returning wealth back to americans and getting our dollar. i would absolute support any kind of alternative currency and support the use of gold and silver absolutely. it's a great way to save and invest. host: at c-span we aired your convention and amongst the

convention people there, members of your party we heard from former president trump and rfk junior. >> at first i was worried donald trump spoke at a libertarian stage of might be confusing to the brand because there were people in the room cheering them on but what happens is the libertarians filled the room and we gave them quite a libertarian reception that he deserves as -- for his record as president. i'm happy to see libertarians gave him a libertarian reception and did not roll over for him and we weren't starstruck by the fact that an ex-president was here and it garnered media attention so i gave a great chance for the libertarian party to contrast ourselves. and i think we did a great job of doing that. rfk junior spoke as well. he unlike trump tried to tailor his speech to libertarians. i think he got a bit more of a polite response than what donald trump did trump kind of did his trump thing and i think the

response was different because of that. but i think most libertarians just know that rfk while is supportive of us on a few issues is very much a big government big spending liberal and that's something we don't really support. >> your party's chair spoke about your nomination and what she saw coming from that i want to play you some of that and get your thoughts on it. [video clip] >> i haven't endorsed donald trump but he has endorsed us. donald trump said he would put a libertarian in the cabinet position. he came out and spoke to us and said he is a libertarian. he has basically endorsed us so in return i endorse chase oliver is the best way to be joe biden. get in, we are stopping biden. that's what i think. that's i think this campaign is about. people are going read and they

scream, a one way or another you will be mad. i think we have to do everything we can to kick joe biden and one of the best ways to do that is to support chase oliver and go hard for him in blue states. what you think that characterization? guest: i will be campaigning in red states and blue states. i've already campaig in all 50 states and unlike donald trump and joe biden i don't how to focus on handful of swing states to get my message across, i've been in states all over the country. i don't doubt for trump or biden for their both horrible choices. i'm not have to pick between the two when i was asked to the libertarian convention oppose -- had a gun to mye what i pick. i very quickly said the gun would go off. i'm not here to help one or the other win. i'm not here to push votes for one or the other. i'm here to win votes across the spectrum of the libertarian party and build up the brand and that something and committing

to not just red states or blue states or swing states that every state to make sure libertarians have a choice outside of the two-party system and make sure the voters know. but they don't have to settle for less donald trump or joe biden. >> i suppose then you heard that your campaign could be a spoiler of sorts when you hear that, what do you think. >> if you look at the approval ratings of congress and our president that are always subpar you can spoil something that's already rotten and that's the two-party system that existed all over this country so when they say we are spoiling elections, for who? for people who are already in power and have the ability to give us things like rank-choice voting that would remove that so-called effect. i support that. i can give you rank-choice voting or mechanism to vote beyond plurality, that can only be given to by republicans and democrats so they are happy spoiling their own elections. having under 50% of the vote and

going to washington dc reps at 100% of their constituents. i happen to think that that's wrong and there's better ways to select candidates but i can't give that to you you have to demand that from democrats and republicans who are fine letting your vote be spoiled. >> let's hear from new mexico, paul on her independent line. good morning. guest: china -- caller: people keep addicting china's and the at any minute. they built more high-speed transit than the rest of the world has built this entire century. they're basically the complete opposite of a place like argentina which is embracing libertarian policies and their economy is collapsing as a result. give an example of a country embracing libertarian policies that have been successful? if you look at what's because the economic woes in

argentina was caused by decades and decades of socialism, of the economic policies that socialist and commonest espouse. if you look at what happened he's drastically cut spending as he promised to do. he has rearrange the economy and pushed inflation down. he's getting a better economic picture. i don't think it's fair to have 60 years of socialism and in six months of libertarian president and say things aren't cheery and rosy yet so libertarians must've failed. what we are seeing is a turnaround in argentina. we will see them rising over the next decade if they continue on the path of free markets and market relationships instead of embracing socialism and central planning. what we see from china is continuing -- the soviet union they starved millions of people in the process and were pretty horrible place to live. a low quality of standard of living. china can keep building high-speed rails but what they are doing with them manipulate

currency is not going to be great in the long run. and the rising of a billion people out of poverty. china has embraced market relationships as they've loosened themselves from the grip of communism so really all the evidence speaks to the very opposite. >> jordan in florida, democrats line. caller: thank you chase oliver for being a candidate to answer the call to be a different choice and a younger candidate for the presidency. the hypocrisy in this country is people want a younger more center and more popular candidate for the presidency who doesn't have experience and have it in their mind and best interest that issues like climate change, the economy, foreign domestic policy and abortion rights. i just want to add the rights of woman has to her body. will we see they continue to only nominate older candidates

with experience. how do you think you will be able to swing leaning democratic voters and leaning republican voters in this upcoming election that is one huge election for the books? >> i think the reason we want a younger voice in the process is because i've been connected to the lives that many americans live every day. i've had to live paycheck-to-paycheck. that's something that people have been in politics for 50 years are born into a lead is my donald trump of never had to understand what it actually means to be an american, to go to the grocery store and being -- less and less for the same amount of money. i feel those pressures a lot more than those in washington dc who are in power. as far as wise and important to have useful voice. i care about things like our environment, like our economy because i'm to be alive to have to see the ramification of these things. when we have an aging population in washington controlling things they care less about the long-term and more about the

next financial quarter for the next two years to win reelection. when i'm talking about issues and thing in the long run what it's can be like to grow old in this world and see my nephews and nieces grow up in this world. i've the vested interest in making sure the economy is strong in the long run. no short-term gains for political buzz. i want to secure the economy and make it strong in the long run. i want to fix the issues and not just key political gamesmanship and the political progress in that our system is engaged in. most are not invested in what we do long term. there are more interested in the next election cycle and fundraising quarter print most younger americans don't want to play that game either. to play that game either. they want to see long-term planning. host: what is the strategy if you were to become president working with congress made up primarily of republicans and democrats with some independents.

guest: you have to know you won't get everything you want but you have to find the areas you can work with the most and use the power of the presidency as you can. if i was the president of the united states if you don't present a budget that is balanced it will be a veto because i have the power of the veto pen and the bully pulpit. you have to iron out details, cross t's and dot i's. that is part of the work of governance, but as long as you are showing the american people your work, not doing it behind closed doors, i think if you do that open, honestly, transparently you can find workable partners who want to reduce the impact and abuses of government and our lives on the left and right. host: democrats line. caller: i want to point out that one of the big problems with this guy's philosophy is that they don't understand -- [ indiscernible]

host: i apologize, you are breaking up. do you want to get closer to your phone or closer to a window? caller: closer to the window. can you hear me now? host: try it again. thanks. caller: i think that it's important to this guy to realize that the libertarian party and their position not to support government at all is a problem for us. am i still on? host: i think you got the point, thank you, devon. guest: i am not an anarchist. there are those who exist. i don't think the government should not exist at all. you should only exist to protect the civil liberties of you should be left to your own devices. your life is your life. if you are doing things violating the civil liberties of other people, that is where government has a role. if we can get government to that

level i would be the biggest fan. but government does so many things that rob us of our agency, our decision-making, our freedom. that makes me a critic of government. particularly the lack of transparency. so much of what happens in our lives is caused by what we see in washington, d.c. or our state house we only see the end result. we don't see the background. that is because government is corrupt. absolute power corrupts absolutely. we need to reduce the power the government has over our lives and return the power to each of us, because self-governance is the most local governance. that doesn't mean we don't have any have a government that respects the civil liberties of all people instead of trying to make decisions in the marketplace, trying to rob us of our wealth, to welfare programs. these things can better be done outside of the scope of government. just because i don't want the government to do something doesn't mean i don't think that it shouldn't be done. i want to help poor people. does a great job of facilitating

that through the regulatory bodies and the red tape. you give the government a dollar and they will give you a dime. i think we can help through mutual and direct eight that can be done at the community level by individuals within the community. that isn't wasting time and money through bureaucracy. host: one more call from stacy, libertarian from florida. caller: thank you. i want to say thank you, c-span, for having a libertarian to finally come on. i appreciate that. also, i want to say to chase that i am proud of him, his message, his positivity, and i'm really glad to be promoting his message by volunteering for his campaign. even though ron desantis might say that our state is red we will turn it back gold. stacy. she is one of the many volunteers we have across the

country and i'm glad the people are excited and see the positivity of this campaign. that is how we distinguish ourselves from trump and biden by being positive. if i only talk to how bad biden is i am no better than trump. if i only talk about how terrible trump is i'm no better than vindman. i want to show how positive our future could be if we embrace the principles of liberty. host: our guest is the presidential nominee for the libertarian party, chase oliver. lp.org is the party's website. we will finish up with open forum. if you want to participate, here are the numbers. (202) 748-80018-8000 free democ. independents, (202) 748-8002. we will take those calls when washington journal continues. ♪ >> tune into c-span's live

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of d-day, our house republicans who are military veterans plan to jump out of a douglas aircraft over france to commemorate d-day. they visited the normandy cemetery and met with living veterans who served in world war ii yesterday. that is a photo of the congressional members planning on that today. you can see those activities. yesterday's activities marking d-day at c-span.org and the app. charlie and this open forum, the republican line in charlotte, north carolina. caller: how are you? host: i am fine. go ahead. caller: i just want a minute or two as a conservative. i want to point out a couple of things. there is a debate in the campaign about whether there has been law fare. whether the biden administration has used the federal government

against conservatives. i want to point out a few things and say why a conservative might believe that. i think the idea probably started when antony blinken got the 51 intelligence officers to discredit the laptop in the 2020 election. this week during the hunter biden prosecution, we all admitted -- finally the fbi admitted the laptop was real and everything on the laptop israel. then he -- laptop is real. then the irs whistleblower says they tried to escalate all this money trying to pour into the bidens and they tried to escalate this and they were stymied. i think that that was on c-span where they said, look, they wouldn't allow us to take this. they said, you aren't allowed to go to joe biden to interview about this. it is like when joe comey, the fbi director, said no prosecutor would press charges against hillary clinton for using a

private server and erasing 30,000 emails. if you give me another half a minute. trump, they rated mar-a-lago over classified documents that trump said as president that he was within his rights to declassify. joe had the same problem. he was in the senate. he had these classified documents in four different places. robert her called him a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory and declines to press the same charges. jack smith is going head over heels to get -- to get against trump. host: independent line. caller: good morning, pedro. i have been listening to c-span for the last 11 months or so. i do consider these people like my neighbors with the viewpoints we all have, but being in this country scares me a tad bit. i grew up mostly in the south.

i've been able to travel across the world through my and my families military service. spent some time in japan, in missouri, talking to pilots so they can get where they are going to go. most of the■] world seems scared of us. that seems to be why they want to constantly build up their military. then we see them as threats. i wish i were capitalism -- our capitalism core pro-driven war machine would really itself in and possibly look inward to give free health care to the aging boomers who will need it soon. maybe get some free schooling to the kids who are going to have to be providing those services. i don't know, free health care -- free housing. make sure that our water and food is free of contaminants. get plastic out of our bodies.

there are a lot of things that we seem to have solutions for that the adults in congress and the house and the presidency don't seem to want to work on. i have children that will be facing these concerns in eight or 12 years. it is unconscionable the things that we continue to do. host: lawrence in florida, republican line. caller: yeah, i just wanted to make an observation. in the 2020 election from statistica, the maximum registered voters was 168 million. if you add biden and trump's votes together, that is 150 5 million. it comes out to 92.2% of registered voters voting. we have never had more than 66% ever voting in the united

states. what i want to say is, i would like to have definite numbers of all registered voters in every state declared 15 days prior to the voting. i don't know if that's possible, but it's the only way i can have faith in the electoral system. host: kevin is next in washington, d.c., democrats line. caller: please, give me the time. ■ki like what the libertarian gy said about political professional wrestling. that was a funny description. i think he is denying reality. without rank-choice voting he doesn't have a chance. i am a democrat. i would like to make a protest vote because i don't live in a swing state. i probably wouldn't vote for a

democrat because mutual aid is self-help meaning rich people help themselves to more money. trump is an election denier. that is another kind of self-help just helping him. democrats have a covid denial. a war crimes denial. i would like to vote for a protest candidate. since i live in d.c. i can do that. i would vote for an antiwar candidate. host: such as who? caller: i would definitely vote for biden if i did live -- if i did live in a swing state i would vote for biden. host: but you choose to vote for

an antiwar candidate because you live in the district of columbia? caller: yeah, not a swing state. i wanted to say -- host: we got your point. from the hill this morning saying, this is the headline, president biden faces growing warning signs from uncommitted voters. saying that the president lost more than a half million voters to the uncommitted movement in the decratic primaries, an effort that is delicate across five states that has underscored frustration in his own party over the handling of the israel-hamas war during the last democratic primaries for the 2024, the uncommitted movement netted 10% of the vote in new mexico and 9% in new jersey. one of several states with a significant aerobic american population -- significant arab-american population. in michigan more than 101,000 voters cast ballots against biden. in minnesota, the highest of any

state. this is megan in d.c., independent line. megan in d.c., hello. let's go to bob in texas, also on our independent line. caller: hakeem jeffries is the leader of the largest political party in congress. why is he not afforded the obvious political respect that should be afforded his leadership? racial bias is a commonly assumed reasoning. thank you. host: ellis is in georgia. democrats line. caller: yes, sir. you everything is rigged. how can you say everything is rigged? the only time you use that word, rigged, is when he loses.

it is the most disgusting word that comes out of anyone's mouth is rigged. if you don't win you just don't win. so, you know, i cannot understand these educated republicans, these educated republicans can't understand that this man is a con man. you call people educated like that, following someone like that, you call them educated fools. have a great day. ellis in georgia. you can join us on the open forum by calling the lines purity composed on our social media on facebook and x. you can text us at (202) 748-8003 if you wish to do that. the washington times headline looking at the continuing case against the president's son hunter biden. the sister-in-law and ex-girlfriend of hunter biden dealt a major blow to his

defense on thursday saying that she spought evidence he was usig crack cocaine days after he bought a gun in october 2018. she shook up the trial when she described her descent into crack addiction saying how hunter biden introduced her to the drug early in 2018. the widow of his brother beau says that she is now clean but embarrassed and ashamed of that time of her life. the washington times yesterday reporting that former president trump's advisor steve bannon needs to self-report to prison starting in january. it was after receiving that yesterday that he is a portion . [video clip] >> merrick garland, the entire justice department, they are not going to shut up trump, they are not going to shut up bannon, they are certainly not going to shut up maga. if you look at you reporters, in the 2.5 to three years we've been here, look at the rise of maga, look at the rise of donald

trump. if the election was held today according to cnn, president trump would win in a landslide. all of this besides the major illegal issues that have to be addressed is about one thing. this is about shutting down the maga movement, shutting down grassroots conservatives, shutting down president trump. not only are we winning, we will prevail in every number and every poll. there is nothing that can shut me up. nothing that wilshthere is not r jail built that will ever shut me up. all victory took maga. we will win this. we will win at the supreme court. importantly, we will win november 5 in an amazing landslide with the senate, the house, and donald j. trump back as president of the united states. host: john is next in arizona, republican line.

my son had a saying that was in my heart. i am a little more stable right now. i think what we need to do is we need to reverse this nosedive in our currency. that is killing everybody. we need to stop spending money we don't have. simple enough. that is every way everybody does. we have to do that. once we get that on we have to start doing the right thing and build in the proper way. host: john from arizona. job numbers for may is out from the department of labor reporting that the economy added 272 thousand jobs in may while the unemployment rate went up to 4% from 3.9%. the boom in hiring shows that workers are still in demand. payrolls came above what it

economists anticipated. job gains for april were revised down by 10,000. in march of the economy added 315 thousand jobs, only slightly lower than initially estimated. let's hear from missouri, independent line. caller: thank you for taking my call.i would like to say that is very impressed with chase oliver. i was glad to hear him say that he was for ranked choice voting. i would vote forvoting now. since there isn't, if he didn't win my vote would go to my second choice, which would be biden. i won't vote for oliver. i will vote for biden. i would like to answer the gentleman who talked about the retaining of secret documents. when trump was asked for them he

hid them. we want to know, what was his purpose? what was he going to do with our secrets? when biden was asked for them he immediately turned them over. i don't consider anyone a patriot who would go for a maga liar. willlly, really consider what and how they are voting in the next election, because i truly believe our democracy is on the line. host: pennsylvania, independent line, george, hello. caller: hello, this is george. i just want to know, who was the lovely young woman from the navy who talked about standing your watch? i never got her name. host: you will have to elaborate more. caller: at the ceremony at

normandy, there was a lovely young woman from the navy who said standing your watch, the people here stood your watch. i never got her name. i don't know who she is. host: i don't know offhand. maybe we can find that out before we are done. you can always watch the event at c-span.org d-day are currenty four a short time on the app as well. -- d-day arecurrently for a shon the app as well. you can see marine one landing carrying the president and his traveling team. set to make remarks in a few minutes. we will take calls until that point. cheryl in new philadelphia, ohio, democrats line. caller: yes. host: go ahead. caller: yes.

all of these people that call in and want to make their opinion about democrats ought to remember who let them make these choices. my dad went to war and fought for our freedom. people like veterans should be the one making the call [indiscernible] they are all about money. nothing about the people who fought for this country to be free. host: roxanne in south carolina on the line for democrats. caller: how are you doing? i wanted to say, for the maga people and other people interested, the interview that trump did a couple of weeks back with time magazine, the reporter

asked him about the pandemic team that was a let go. if you were to be president again, would he still keep the pandemic team that biden has in place? he said he would not. basically, the reporter was asking, why wouldn't you? he said it was so much work and he would get rid of them. he asked again, why would you let them go? what if you need them again? well, we can always get them back. if he did that and we had covid the first time. come on, it is not coming out of his pocket. why would you say that you would let the pandemic team go again? you are telling everybody what you are going to do. everybody who had a loved one die, it could be another loved one. it's not worth it. please. host: a video from pointe du hoc

in france, president biden set to make statements in a few minutes. we will show you the pictures from there as we continue on in this open forum. this is steve, hello. caller: i am looking forward to biden's remarks at normandy, but really, the best president for giving speeches was ronald reagan. i will have to look up his speech from normandy. host: i believe that you can find it on the website 40 years ago. president reagan made those remarks from the same location that we will hear remarks from president biden. let's go to john in ohio, go ahead. line during caller: how are you? host: fine, thank you. go ahead. caller: i just wanted to say i hope that this country people

come together and do what is right. we can't say what we see is right, but we have to make sure everybody do so our country cannot be like others. we know so many other countries in situations. nowhere close. d-day, we have to look at what people did. host: last call for this program and that in another addition of washington journal. it comes your way at 7:00 tomorrow morning. stay tuned for comments shortly forthcoming from the president of the united states from france. ♪

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president biden's remarks above the beaches of normandy where allied forces landed on d-day in 1940 four. on that day u.s. army rangers climbed the 100 foot cliff and destroyed a critical german battery, taking control of the coastal highway which played a critical role in the success of d-day. ♪ [faint music and indiscernible conversations]