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coverage of government. taking you to where the policies debated and decided, all with the spofca's cable companies. c-span, 45 years and counting. powered by cable. this is danizf the libre initiative. how latinos are looking at this year's election. welcome back. guest: always a pleasure. host: when it comesbre initiative, what the message you're sending generally to hat america still is that country where anybody from anywhere fwe have to defend thon principles of economic freedom, educational freedom, that one can have private property rights and at the same time, we must restrain the centralization of so much money and power in

washington. that we empower the private sector for productivity and growth. that we distinguish the american dream but we have to be free to do that. host: what are they telling you about the way they think prosperi

that rugged individualism. host: it sounds like what you're saying affects a lot of different groups, not particularly latino. guest: a lot of latinos believe in the american dream. so ire seeing now is an america that they don't recognize and if we continue down this path it is going to be in america that is not what we envision. so i think a lot of latinos are paying attention. this a lot of mistrust in the media but there's also a lot of parties. aol and so the■5 folks that they believe are latinos themselves who go to church with them, go to school with them. neighbors who work with them. these are across the country talking to fellow the tino's, talking about

the hardships that they go through. there's another direction that this government can take. those are the conversations we are having. of course, life is 20% more expensive since this is ministrati thost: in a poll thas released earlier this year, about 36 point 2 million eligible latino voters have a 50% share of the entire electorate. over 11 million of those, 31% are -21 years old. what are they telling you about achieving what you're looking for? who will want to guest: defend this principle that we believe in, that we came to america for?

one of the ways that their abun. ctors are, doesn't get to decide for you. parents are empowered to send their children to the school of their choice and have that kind of school choice, that kind of educational freedom at the same time. young kids i think are looking for those candidates who still believe in those american principles. that is who we are promoting and endorsing. the principles we are talking about. especially youth, is a recent study that showed that larger and larger percentage of young latinos are self identifying as

either more moderate or conservative and identified as very liberal or liberal. why do you think that is? guest: that's because the radical left and started taking of the democratic party. it has become the party of marxist university professors. the party of folks who block traffic, the middle class on their way too impose an agenda. the party who made all these college loans to doctors and lawyers on the backs of the middle class folks who didn't get to go to college, folks who did not incur debt, made responsible decisions, for those college graduates who were responsible and paid off their debt. there is a resentment about the classes get. the middle class just seems to get the brunt of everything.

not even being considered, being last in line when it comes to politicians, and blacks make up 45% of american citizens. they are the ones getting stuck with the bill, they should have a voice and they should mobilize in support of those candidates who are going to make it. host: this is daniel garzaing u. republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. if you want to text us your thoughts, (202) 748-8003 is how you do that. you can always post on facebook and on xp as far as the initiative itself, who are you comprised of? guest: about 300 or 400 donors who contribute to our organization from across the country.

in the latino community, it should be part of our mobilizati effort. and we've been added now for over 12 years. do a lot of electioneering through our sister organization. that's how we make our endorsements and volunteers and activists across the country in support of those who we think are going to put america first. host: your organization is largely backed by the -- foundation, is that guest: still the case? guest:charles and david were some of the initial founders, that is exactly right. charles continues to be a contributor and i couldn't be prouder to with a fine american who is just doing

incredible work to create opportunity for others. we believe in a free america. in individuals who have been working from the bottom up to have purpose in life. we work together and are proud to associate with them. host: i want to show you the digital ad that the biden administration is trying to target to latino men. i want to get your response. >> i am a marine, i know what trust is and a guy like donald trump that attacks women and brags about it, that is not trust. biden because he will give my daughter their freedom back. >> i'm joe biden and i approve this message. host: what do you think about the approach? guest: character assassination. are undermining your opposition. if that is the route you want to take, i think a lot of people

are turned off by it. americans want to know what you're going to do to reduce high interest rates, reduce inflation that is crippling a lot of the middle class, especially who make up a big chunk of the middle class. what are you doing to create opportunities for our kids?■ to make sure that they have educational opportunities? what are you doing to make sure that health care remains in the private sector affordable and aswe continue to attack people d demonize people, that is one approach, but i disagree with that and i think people are turned off by it. host: what do you think about latino voters generally, what they think of the former president as a convicted felon now? guest: i think a lot of latinos

have looked at the timing of thishoflimsy the cases are and it is a political job. democrats have been talking a lot about threats to democracy. this was an attack on democracy. this is usurping the decision of the in choosing the kind of leadership that they want. so you have preempted them by trying to incarcerate your opposition. you've been projecting the war on democracy when you're actually committing it yourself. it is just the timing that once he announced everything thatit d approach to getting rid of the position tt you fear. whether you are finding donald trump agreeable or not, the american people should decide who they are going to elect. host: will your organization

endorse him? guest: we've not endsed a presidential candidate for the last three cycles. we will probably stay out of it this time. host: as far as encouraging people tesident, how should thep campaign take that and what is the message they should deliver? guest: when it comes to the latino to connect. the way you connect is you show up. you come to where we are at. at our communities, at our events. you have to show you care. second, you have to make your case. you have to tell me why your ideas are superior to the opposition. you have to show me the outcome of your previous policies in

your previous term. you have to make your case. and third, you have to come to me it has been kind of cringey to see the kind of outreach that democrats seem to have on their heels with the latino community because the shifting numbers are not good at engaging with latinos. it has been kind of cringey. a lot of stereotyping going on. you guys matter, but you got to connect. host: washington, d.c. democrats line for our guest daniel caller: i was interested to hear mr. garza that your group is not supporting donald trump because first of all, let me just say that any time world history, something that is a lie is that

we are not supporting energy production. it is the highest ever in world history. but let me focus on donald trump who you said you are not supporting. what do you thinket from your st is planning to deport 10 million, 15 million undocumented people in america? what do you think about those plans that are being drawn up and donald trump supporting those plans? guest: first ofm all, i think latinos would resist any kind of dynamic where you have lawlessness, where you have chaos. that is exactly what we had at the border. at this point they don't have operational control. i live in texas. i live a half mile between --.

we see what happens. in real time. nobody has to tell me that this administration has broken a lot of promises when it comes to immigration. four nephews working in border patrol. they human trafficking, the sex trade, the they dominate the other side of the border. you have to go straight to where they are at. looking over your shoulder the whole time, a scary situation. it creates an. my sister at gunpoint had her vehicle taken from her two years

ago. this is real stuff that is happening. children's ves are being impacted by it. i just don't see the kind■! of responsible governing that should be taking place on the border. and so because we resist this lawlessness and this chaos that is happening, somebody needs to bring order to it. and it is not the biden administration and certainly not made orca's. some of the extreme plans that are being considered is because of what is being shown right now at the border. in the absence of good policy, of good governance, bad ideas are going to take place. i just wish that responsible people would come together and reach some kind of consensus. and all the honest with you, the

mocrats have broken their promises on achieving immigration reform time and time again. they've told the latino community four years go by, nothing. then you asked what happened? y. the republicans, they won't play ball. you didn't say that. he promised immigration reform. and then four years go by and nothing happen and it is the republicans. why has not the biden administration convened the repuic house and tried to reconcile theirkind of consensus? we can do securitytt and then address the issues of people who are gaining asylum. host: that was floated and passed in the senate and

trounced by republicans. guest: yes. it was an election year gambit that was done just to score political that would have codified exactly what is going on right now at the border. ljeverybody knows it, everybody sees it. it was bogus to begin with. it never had a chance. so why don't you convene the opposition and began hammer out a difference. you will play ball and you will negotiate in good faith. but no, we don't get that. it is just to have this lawlessness continue. host: roxanne in florida, republican line. caller: good morning. i'd like to say i am a black woman living in florida, a very middle-class part of the state.

hispanics and a lot of blacks are totally part of the trump coalition. we cannot wait to go to the polls to vote for him. as a matter of fact, ery time he comes down here, every time he's even in the orlando part of the state and he is in the west coast, you have an amount of blacks and hispanics. and what i thought was so wonderful to see was during the recent parade, the throngs of people who were out there in support of donald trump. the same thing that has occurred in california. i think that hispanics and blacks are tired of being told by anyone who to vote for when weno for his donald trump, donald trump 2020 for all the way. host: ok, roxanne in florida. guest:ere's no question that thk

donald trump is the most famous person in the world. he has appeal to a lot of latinos for different reasons but there is another reason why latinos are switching over more to the republican side or to the central left. one is the bad outcomes of this administration in terms of the economy. just the radical fringe that has taken overñ$ the party, people e sort of turned off by it. also, feeling left out in states like nevada and michigan. i think in the 80's, 20 percent of americans were union members. now barely over 10%. there isn't the kind of mobilization that unions are doing as well. you are not loyal to any party. one million youth turn 18 every year. 1.4 eligible citizens are the chinos in america.

and so you are starting to see these new voters. 20% of all latino voters in this election are going to be new. no party loyalty at all. i've gone on univision and telemundo and i've seen it. the conversations they are holding on policy and elections across their viewership and i think that has balanced the conversation within the teedo community more. i think the republican party is very familiar, engaging and connecting with the latino community. i think all these sort of factors are tilting latinos toward the central right much more. host: if you look at exit polling about 65% of latino voters giving their support t mr. biden and about 32% to mr. trump. you think that is going to ically? guest: it has.

i know that forbase has always e republican party in rural states and males. brand for the democratic party t was urban, college-educated women and youth. youth are starting to switch over. they are becoming much more conservative, much more central right. and women are starting tpay more attention, especially married women. so i think that those are the blocks that are starting to distance■;■2 host: marilyn, democrat line. caller: thanks for taking my call. big c-span fan and turned on today and heard your chatter. just wanted to say i am an old

white guy but i totally decided to -- those people of color. as a, it makes me sad. ifixing this. and as i'm listening to you guys talk, the question was asked who you are funding this with. you mentioned the coat brothers. i had a question. ■■,i've been doing a lot of research here in my retirement and a lot of the books i read was dark money, which highlights th lives and times of charles and david. and i'd be curious tono book anu have, how it explains your

waffling on supporting trump because the brothers actually are not big trump supporters. but they are in line with his ideas. one of the main takeaways from the book that i got was their main objective was eti governmet except for the military to protect them. so what was your thought on the dark money if you have read it? guest: i mean look, americans get to voice their opinions. they get to advocate for policies they believe in. they get to try to persuade fellow citizens and petition their leaders for policy change to try to make a way for the kinds of candidates they want elected. it takes resources to do that.

so we have a structure in place that allows within the law a framework which we comply with 100% to advocate for those policies or those election anges. so that is what we do. the left does it, t. all we do is practice within the law. or do we standown and just let one side to the advocating? that doesn't make any sense. i'll tell you a story about charles koch who is a friend of mine who i dearly admire and respect. we are addressing some folks who are supporters, and the video showed a pastor in an alley with these bikers and they were holding hands and they were praying because they were

addicted to drugs and they needed help, some kind of spiritual change that is needed. this meek and mild pastor, and so i ceded the podium to charles and he came up and his -- he had tears in his eyes and he said this is why we do this, because we are changing lives. we are improving that they can fulfill their potential. and i just admired him so muche. he takes the attacks. he doesn't have to do this. but he makes the sacrifice to do this with his own resources and puts his name out there. they oppose his ideas may be of having a free america, a free

country, a freefreely. if you are in opposition to that, you are in opposition to that. but you have to respect his rights as an american. as you have to respect mine as i respect yours. that is what we do america. host: independent line, pat, hello. guest: caller: i wanted to speak to a couple things. the guest talked about regulations before i retired in one of the things i really hate is what people won't do right. my daughter when she went to college, i paid half the amount. they now separate not just the board, but all these other fees now that my grandson is actually going to sand i don't have a prn

though i paid cashthe burden foe peop atuition increases. money for war, we need to be able to pay for these student loans to be abated. look at all the money that we spent during covid for people who got away scott free. even some of our legislators who did not have to pay that money they were already getting a salary, why should they than in fact take government money? free is not free enterprise in this country. black people in this country built this country. they stole people from another country with their skills and to be quite honest with you for as as we thing here, we are not as far as we should be. to talk about free? your cell phonele did. it was free for some people but it wasn't free for others. it is the drug activity that is

making it unsafe and some of the southern countries. so it's not just -- host: you put a lot there for the guest, i will let him respond0. guest: i progress in america can only be as swift as our progress in edutieducation can position e people for success. making the right life decisions. staying away from jail, illegitimacy, getting college degrees or at least a haskell diploma. learning a language, all that. my parents when they came to america didn't know english. didn't have a haskell diploma. they didn't know how to start a business. they had a fourth grade education, farmworker. and yethethey learn the languagt their driver's license, sta■rted a business and became successful and positioned me for success.

in america, you have to work hard. but that is the promise. you put in the work and then you get the results. i believe strongly in a haskell education. as a farmworker growing up until i was 19 years of age, because of my life situation, i'm a high school dropout. i didn't finish high school because i was working in the fields in the orchard in california, washington and nebraska. i had to overcome those barriers. i got my ged, went off to college and got back on track. i don't regret one thing that happened in my life. one hardship, one sacrifice that i had to make. i am now grateful for what i have. as americans, sometimes we lose track of that. there is a sense of gratitude. i started this by saying this h

nothing from anywhere can achieve anything. what we had to help people to overcome these barriers. to help them learn the language, ticket haskell diploma. 33% of latinos don't have a haskell diploma. something like 50% of us don't have a drivers license. these are major barriers to opportunity that we have to address is amecathe former callt the plight of minorities. i believe strongly that those who keep to themselves, the elderly, children, disabled lks, veterans, the government, we must take care of it. it is our responsibility. n-regardless of the circumstanc, they are able-bodied people. we should be creating opportunities. jobs are the best way to get people back on track. give them a purpose in life

they can earn their achievements. when you give people purpose, watch them go. they are going to achieve incredible things. regulations are important and there have tbe regulations that make sense. but sometimes you just go too far. just one regulation on top of another in a way that is more accelerated than these burdens and regulations. host: the libre initiative, daniel garza serves as their president. earl in indiana, republican line. caller: mr.garza, i really appreciate you being on there today.

others who have been on there make no sense but i am a moral man of 87 years old. i work hard, i had seven children. i worked my butt off. i children are a joy. that is my life, my children. they don't want to work for it. always give, give, give. look, it doe' to have a good idt something. they don't have to have world. love yourput god first. because when you take that out of the government office, that is when this country went to hell. if we don't get god in this c't believe in god, your day is coming. and i tell you what. c-span, he will tell you what is

going on in this world today. he loves his country, he's fighting harl he's took everything that you've got with democrats giving. guest: america estill a country of people of faith. i think we have to embrace folks of all strengths and creeds and religions. my parents made me who i am today. that is probably why i'm conservative and central right. i fight for the things. lot of latinos fight for those things. the tino's i think are looking for those american principles, american freedoms. freedom to petition your government, freedom of expression. those are all under assault

right now. they are getting more engaged on these issues. people of faith are also getting more involved. a lot of our volunteers actually come from the church community. folks who want to get more involved in the community and make a difference and defend what they feel to be these american principles that should be passed onto to the next generation. so i believe strongly in defending freedom of religion and faith and any intrusion on government. host: you talked about asylum and the biden administration. what should they do to change legal immigration? guest: they have to work with democrats. they have to reach a consensus. we have a broken immigration system. americans believe in immigration, we want to expand legal immigration. we have to address market forces.

immigration has made america strong. 250 million immigrants have come to america. they've come to work hard, they've come to improve their lot in life with their and their children and the next generation. and they've done so. they've created wealth for themselves and for others. the economy of california is bigger than the entire economy of mexico. america is prosperous and it has to do with a long line of immigrants that have come to america. republicans don't get to define what immigration reform is, and not the democrats. they both have to come together. we have a u.s. house of representatives and the senate who represent different faiths from across the country. they want to expand immigration. but they don't want what is

happening right now at the border. they don't want the lawlessness and chaos that we have. the flexibility that is demanded of the border. we get to decide who comes into the country. we get to set the conditions. and right now we've lost control of that. this frustration that americans are feeling over what is happening. initiation day one has to convene the party of oppositi. let's get to a long-term congressional solution that is bipartisan or nonpartisan and fix this. whatever is happening at the border, the status quo is not working. considering protection forhat thousands of undocumented u.s. citizens. what do you think about an

approach like that? gues 100%. look, if you are an american, a child of undocumented in america, there is no question again. right now we have 2 million farm workers across america, 90% undocumented. we are creating a two-tiered system of folks. many of the folks who are undocumented and live in the shadows don't get the benefits of citizenship and then we have 370 million americans were citizens. it is a two-tiered system that doesn'we should find ways to incorporate people but we need to bring order to the border before anything. host: this is adam joining us from washington, d.c., go ahead. er: i just want to say this

is the first time i'■k with a guest on the show. ■>everything that i feel, you jt happen to say more eloquently so i'm really proud to have you on here. you talked about and country. i love that patriotism. i met my wife in california, and i think i'm curious to talk a little bit about your perspective on how faith is so important in the community as well as country and family. i'm just curious, how does religion play into the next presidential cycle? guest:■f my family, like many ■, my aunts and uncles and cousins, is an integral part

of our lives. it informs our values, it informs my politics. our community is everything. my fathenverted to evangelical when i was six years old. i saw him as a drunk and adulterer. he had about every vice you can think of. one■v night my uncle had invited him to and he was moved by the holy spirit and he went to the altar and had a come to jesus conversion literally in the most classic way and i saw my dad completely alter his entire life that night. became a responsible person, has loved my mother, love the word of god. i don't admire any man in this entire world more than my own father.

world of them, they are still with us, thank god. my faith has played an important role and it plays an important role for a lot of americans. i was asked by a group of harvard students if i believed in --. and i said look, i think that word is taken on bad connotations. i think there are people who practice value were people of character who have generated wealth over different generation who have worked hard, who have made sacrifices for their children anth pass on that wealth to the next generation or to their children. they work hard to make sure their child goes to the right school, gets the right kind of job. they work hard, and to dismiss all that i think the hard work