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we will be covering that here on c-span s 7:00 p.m. live tomorrow night. tell mwh it is clear to me and i th americans of conscience that this is the ur justice, imate equity, and climate resilience. in these conversations we have i have been listening to your program this morning, their ways in which structural■ and institutional racism are deeply embedded in reality is that the majority of people in this country who are e catastrophes, these climate melodies, happened to be people of color and the poor -- these imate maladies, happened to be people of color and thelook at g place or do youhinkf flint, michigan, and the water, and mississippi, and reports in
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california, ground zero and many ways for so many ctebut in thist climate justice, equity, and silience, the voices of those being impacted by this have been left out. ■zso all due respect to my white brothers and sisters across the country, certainly here in l.a., this conversation environmental liberal caring community about the climate. i am glad they care, but those most conversation, and this is the silent killer for many of us. ultimately, what we are attempting to4y do, the name jamaal knight, w are attempting■ú■n to be unapologetically, but spectfulinclud have been left out of this conversation. so tomorrow night on at
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7:00 eastern, 6:00 central, you will see a stage full of people of color on national television talking abo issues that impact us in communities of color and in poor comnities and on an election year nothing can be more important. host:drew your interest in this topic? guest: great question. you know, with humility, i have tried during my career to lovei believe that if you woulda i do not routinely regard myself as that, but you should bengaing people, this notion of loving people and serving people. that is what it means to me to be a leader. what isth of your love for the people, and what is the quality of your service to them? me, you should think about loving and serving people, and i have tried to do that throfor yi curated one of the most watched programs on your
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network every year, the state of the black union symposium, every year in february, and people would watch all day long on c-span on saturday during morning panels and afternoon the african-american thought leaders, opinion during black hy month talking about the issues that mattered most to black amic number onelist and detailed the issues most important to black americans. there was a guy named barack obama who showed and he helped to lay the groundwork, enthusiasm, and interest in giving us the nation's first african-american president. i have always been engaged in issues that matter to our people. i docket, and the 20th anniversary of the bo?, but in 20 years since the book, in somes we have made
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progress, and in other ways, there is still a great deal of work to do. h, assigned myself to do the work that really. right now, this conversation about climateusti■[ce'climate equity, and climate resilience, we got together and sta in l.a. to talk about the issue, and we are engaged in a $2 million plus 12 month campaign around this issue of climate justice. the conversation tomorrow night on c-span our docket to cover is campaign. host:fics. what does climate justice look like? what aadvocating for? guest: great question. tomorrow night, the reason why i am moderating and i'm not the expert is because i do not have the answers to ase questions. the panel weis on the stage tomorrow night to answer those questions from the policy perspective.
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what i do everyday is what you estions. i am good at asking questi am le is learning during this 12 moh campaign that we are in the midst of. but i have people on the stage like someone known as the father of environmental justice for 60 ng on this issue. it is a name you may not know, but in the environmental community, people know the name robertul■he has been at this fox decades. 85 years now, still doing his work base down in houston, and he is dan jones, when jeff bezos gave $100 million to to support the workttee is doing, righteous work. van jones on that peldr. ali ony shepard, cochair of the white house envmerrow
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night. ben jelos of the sierra■v■ club, perhaps the foremost organization working on these issues. we all know sierra club, and they happen to have right and african-american leader, and he is on the stage tomorrow night. is powerful, and i will tomorrow night to the experts policy-wise, what are wealngsat. host: there is an article here ttle more than a year ago, with this headline, advocates are saying that reparations are the answer for sea level threat in west oakland, california. where do you stand issue at reparations? is that something you might be advocati ft: it is on my list tw
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at reparations will come up tomorrow night in our conversation. there is a challenge with the dialogue around rep many definis for many different people. i discussed it■@ll the time on my nationally syndicated program in l.a. but we also have this reparations. i am based in and the nation is watching us. i often say what happens in cast a long shadow or a long sunbeam across the nn. i hope we will get this reparations issue right, and it will cast a long sunbeam and not a shadow across the country. after couple years, the reparations task forcetions a md now it is working its way through legislation about but reparations actually means. is watching us. tomorrow night i will put th reparations question to this panel and ask specifically, what is the link between this conversation at the moment about reparations and climate justice?
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get an answer to that question tomorrow night, as well. host: tavis smiley is a syndicated talkshow host and ■mauthor. he will be joining us until the end of the program. you cank a question. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202 you can also text us at (202) 748-8803. ■f--748-■-8003you can also postk and on our x feed. we talked about water quality, -- is there actual data around that that would show actual impact to those communities? guest: only is there data,
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it is incontrovertible. k tomorrow night the country will be alarmed when they realize thempact thes-& having on our country, specifically on african americans and people of color. i said long ago that when white america gets a cold, black folk d folk get pneumonia. that is still the case. so tomorrow night we're going to make the case for why this sushy across the board but certainly we're also talking about ho■íimd health disparities and beyond. it is not just the sunnyside, i do not think all the damage done is irreparable, so that is why we are having the conversation. if i thought there was nothing we could do, i would not be c-'e nation's time.
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i think we e move quickly. but the data is way it is impacg specifically communities o i could go down south, and they're were l kindexamples, fo. decades now, people of color have been getting of their proximity to these environmental hazards. in harlem, one out of every three black kids hasit is not hs a reason for that, it is their proximity to these toxic dumps. in california, certainly los angeles, we see the impacts on communities of color, people of color. why? and poor people. because of the freeway system. in l.a., let's be clear, freeways do noruls or through by
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the city of los angeles, but the freeways run through areas of color, right through neighborhoods populated by poor people. always in our cars, putting all kinds of emissions into the ether. you think is breathing that air? it is the poor and that are impl the emissions we are putting in the air. a few weeks, part of events, not just this symposium, we're doing spirited conversations -- nobody in this country is having as many climate conversations with eerr. you go to our website, kbla1580, and you will see pages of 6vtions of these posts and experts on everything out of th. nobody is doing it like we are withariolimate geniuses.
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there are conversations and also comm. we know when the heat starts to rise this summer -- this're stan southern california, and theeady experienced exceptional heat this year already. s in california and beyond. so we're givingy instruments. the data shows that black people have health disparities, that we die of heat■ó stroke, all kindsf health disparities we will lay out tomorrow night. thek0■á data is clear on who ist impacted by these is part of thn tomorrow night. host:e 2024 presidential electi. i am sure you vepolls showing tt biden is losing support among black black men. why do you think that is happening? guest: no question that the president's numbers are strong and black america. the president last week at the white house for the
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juneteenth celebration. no question that his numbers are at best erosion. ye not believe the posters have it right. i do not it is a size 25% of black men voting for donald trump. think that will be the reality on election day. too often, democrats take black part of what you are s s s s s these numbers. wrong may they be, there's something there. black voters are for granted by the democratic party and flat out ignored by the i am glad to see that this time around, black voters are in . black voters matter. time, he would not be president if it particularly black women in south carolina who came to his
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rescue four years ago. the rest, as they say, is history. he understands the importance of black voters. agenda is antithetical to the best interest of like people, he isouhe spoke at a black church r he is appealing to black voters, as well. so it is a good thing that black voters are being taken seriously. this and it cannotv legislation passed -- the senate could not get meaningful voting rights past, but i am happy to see voters are not being taken for granted. blackoter88■7 i quote jesse jackson, we lose too many question -- absence at the polls. we elections by the sibyl margin of our absence at the simple
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margin of our absence at the s. if you are leading the american empire, i have a critique if you. i want to hold you to be accountable for the things you ■ñsaid ran. cans, certainly black folks. joe bidenble. donald trump should be held accountable. host: you mentioned a speech by former president trump in detroit saturday. i want to play a portion of those remarks. [video clip] fmr. pres. tf illegal aliens are pouring in and taking their jobs. the black community is being hurt more by the illegal aliens, 16 million, 17 million, they are taking their jobs, you're dn 7% from where you were just three years ago with me. and going much slower because millions and millions of people are coming into your communits. every state is a border state, you have heardhat,uty
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are coming into your community and taking your jobs, afftieric. after that, the hispanic american spirit more than any other grp.they are also affectig unions, because unions are starting to lose. their grip we are being inundated. host: not a fan of his comments, but what do you think of what the jobs of black people? guest: as alws the case with mr. trump, it is an oversimplistic reaction and read of reality, number one. number two, as is always the to check his data, the data isbut he is ontos regard even a broken clock is right twice a day, so in this regard mr. trump is right, there is increasingly, in ples competition for jobs.
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it is not the fault of african-americans, nor the fault of these undocumented workers. it iso t owners. they are the first to pick these against these african-american fellow citizens -- to pit these immigrants against these african-american fellow citizens. ey■roups against each other. as long as these businesses can hire cheap labor, they will do that. right, these undocumented immigrants are being hired more swiftly and the citizens should have first dibs. trump is right about that, the competition is decreasing. longs. it is not at the feet of democrats alone. democrats and republicans have not been■a have been for decades now, engaging in meaningful immigrnand when you lack meaninl
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immigration you get republican governors playing this morally and that game of putting folk on bu■bse unknown, they don't know where they are what supposed to do when they get there, just dropped off. that is lobar and i do not to see that disrespect for humanity and the dignity of these people. on the other hand, democrats have not been as serious as they ought to be. biden to something not even democrats do not are bn holding others accountable, as well. cannot let folk just run across a border all day long, i get that. but if congress would do its job and pass meaningful immigration reform, we would not have these undocumented workersgainst afris
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and costing them their jobs. in regard, mr. trump makes a legitimate point, but his frame is wrong. host: we have several callers that want to talk to you. firsts republican line in new jersey, joseph. good morning. caller: can m a few points? e firsay, before someone called up, african-americans calling president trump the wizard and be maga and part of thefind it o not push back on that. i am ad the last i heard the klan did not like catholics. it was said about an african-american president, it would be canceled right awai dor
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heard of staten island, have you? guest: been there many times ise biggest dump in the man-made and you could see it from space. and i lived there, highest tax rate in the country. we were getting from mainly black communities, and i did not hear anyone call that racist. people died from cancer of that. and when are you going to start looking at americans without see and articulate guy, but i do not see black ori like the politics, bun why can't you judge me by my character and my heart? i was born in 1968, and any african-american on the same year i was has had every freedom i have had.
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since 1968. 1970's, things started to get better. op sharpton, jackson, and yourself blew it up in the 1980's. it will be another civil war. just if i white man is wrong, a black man is wrong, that's there is a lot. if you saw me look away, it is because i was writing it down. number one, with regar to staten island and experiencing en there and people contracting cancer"n the. my argument are the sprtionate victims of these climate catastrophes. so underline that word, disproportionatenot suggesting e what you saw, and i'm with you. at is why democrats and
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republicans in office have to justice, climate equity, climate resilience more seriously. n, just happening to people of color and poor people, but disproportionate. his, i do not knowin, but i assu that the wealthy and staten fact. i amtain. that is what i mean when i say people of color and the poor. i did not say the poor are all black, but they are disproportionately impacted by this. mmtw in regard to the attacks you andr subjected to, i do not believe in that and do not engage in that. has worth and dignity and value. you will hear it in my politics. i am on polacek the dish i am unapologetically progressive. so personal attacks and to the extent you have eer make their case and trying to
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convince you that their point of view was cct.third, regarding mr king, jr., i know something about this. i have written a book about dr. king, a new york times best-selling book. written about dr. king andis to my mind, my assessment, the greatest american this couny that is my assessment of dr. produced. so i try to be like dr. king ever signaled a. he talked about judging people by thecontent and not the colorf their skin, but we have twisted that line and bester diced it to make it mean something it d eano bastardizedto mean somethit mean. dr. king's agenda was about the humanity and the dignity and the american them -- the
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but it started with his own people. he said clearly, injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. we take dr. king's words and twist them to mean things they did not mean. he was clearly about making sure thatican-ameights. people say they do not see color, they missed the point. ■ king's work or his king use the phrase colorblind. not, do not believe in colorblindness. ■ believed in seeing people for who they are and rtheir humanitr committe never mindheir color, race, religion, ethnicity, etc. we have to get his words right if we have a conversation about that. host: terry is democrat in atlanta, georgia. caller:ing, thanks for taking my call. mr. smiley,gveral
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things i just want to put out and have you comment on. e rs■o is these power islands that the power companies put up are also thought to be the cause of cancer, cancer-causing in certain the second one iskennedy, jr., . and do you think joe biden has you said you got in trouble with holding barack obama accountable. in trouble -- i do think pple ng president but did not want to hear anything that they thought was negative about it. i think waned, so i would like to talk atle bit ■rabout that also. i know it is a lot. host: thanks.
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go ahead. guest: i did not get the first name. host: terry.est: terry thank■ú . you are right about the power plants. i do not go along about that, that is why we are on c-span tomorrow night for three full hours to talk about these isss with an august panel, and we will talk power plants are havin people of color, even the people of staten island. we will talk about that tomorrow night and the impact theowtheren that. ■ corporations are getting greedier and greedier by the day. if they want to enter every bit of environmental progress we have de. we want to push back that part. we will talk about that. cornell west, i should mention he is with us tomorrow night. he is not campaigning for the
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white house but will be there as a noted scholar, the last speaker tomorrow night here on c-span during our at 7:00 eastern, talking about the intersection of climate the day before juneteenth. juneteenth eve.i want to make sure we take this holiday seriously, that the work that matters. juneteenth is not just about barbecueod. no nothing wrong with that. it is a day of celebration. i am for that, but we also need meaningful conversation about critical moments. dr. west will be at the close of our panel, and he will talk specifically as aqg■ scholar abt the intersection of climate juste and juneenth theso you wiw night on the program.
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see what he had bobby kennedy and others will do. th state -- by state. what troubles■taq me is when thy called them a squirrel. you cann supporter and not use that term, i hate that term. here is point, nobody calls republicans spoilers when they beat democrats. nobody calls democrats spoilers when they beat republicans. hso why is an independent who runs for president apo? you do not own the votes. they do not belong to you. you have a right to run. because i run and you lose or i runor me because they like my platform over stop that nonsensical language. regard of joe biden and dementia, i am physician and have not diagnosed joe biden.
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what i do know is that joe biden has done an admirable job of leading our count. i am holding him accountable and do every day for things heas done, but i would be wrong to comment on whether i think he has dementia. i am not a■"e physician, and i e never seen joe bide's office tom with anything. i listen to his policies and i'm watching his work, and i will make my decision based on that. host: jeff in new york, independent line. caller: thanks for takingjv my call, and hello, mr. smiley. i wanted to mention a point that is often■/hr!■) misunderstood, t is the impact of climate ce ince of color. close back to 1981, not just
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covid -- this goes back to 1981, not just covid. i would like the nexus between thnu to■c 2 compared to the decades before that, and that is because of climate change. but disparities with racial groups is also evident, and the death rate in the infection rate, forgoing back to hiv, which is still an ongoing pandemic, 40% of casre black americans, and they only make up compared to 61% of the populatin and only incidents. so you have this tremendous and a pandemic that went back 40 years, as well as the most recent one, cov-1counting mpox.
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host:onse. guest:et his comments at the front of his statement.he is spe levels of mistrust and distrust in scicemedicine at an all-timeh general, and in black america, in particular, he is onto something. we will talk to ts tomorrc-span. we have experts this penalty can help us unpack this. what is this distrust in science? let me be clear, there are many of my friendon right
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science, a lot of people who did not want to take e ,■shot in the pandemic. i have got members of my own family, these are like folk, who ve ntill -- these are shot, some even had covid and still did not take the shot. it, thankfully there there is huge mistrust in the science and medicine. cdc based out of atlanta unrsndha black folk. there are americans around the country, like jeff and others, who feel the same way. something has to be done. the question is, what does that distru ind public health do with the intersection of data with that reality and climate justice and the impact it■,communities of color and the poor? my point is■ if these communities who are being impacted by these climate
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maladies do not trust the science in the first place, not just republican senators and others who think it is a joke, and i do not, there is a real issu i do not walk away from the tough questions, so we will talk about this, about what it means that many trust the science or medicine and what we do about that in the months and years to come. it will be a topic tomorrow night. host: on the republicantom in o. caller: seem to be pretty close minded, and come out of them and went into industrial revolutione have gotten things going worse for our health on all just one-of-a-kind or anything. we have gotten it worse for all people. everything like that been worse for years now and getting worse l thwith the climate change,orin
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forever, and it are going to gor ice age someday the way i 2?uni do not think we are stoppe call. on that eternally hopeful. i believe there are things we can do damage is irreparable to turn the tide now. much of this is man-made. much of what we are enduring right now is because of us. that tomorrow night, how we are complicit,ç we human beings, we homo sapiens are to blamewe d can undo it. if we did it, we can do better. the e ch people,
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people, and others on how to turn the tide of what we are up honest. i am notthrow my hands up and sy nothing can be done. wetomorrow night about tci it is not just something we should sit back■f and throw up r arms and expected willwell, noto about it. wrong, wrong, wrong. hopeful that weway that peoplen ideas of what can be done to fix this before it is too late. host: gary is next in alabama, democrat.
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caller: people do not seem to care if they can breathe and drink thehere in alabama, they e cannot eat the fish, it's got chemicals in it. my second pointi you have your panel that maybe you have somebody on their to help people research■x i'm having a problem, looking at some of my land thatas stolen from us as a family heritage. it is the hardest thing in the world to it anybody to find out anything about our property. 165 acres stolen from us, a man that stole it and the judge had the same last name. far as the climate change, i wish you would have somebody ■on your panel that can say anything
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about the5h stuff up and out of this atmosphere, and does it affect the climate change in host: let's get a response. guest: thank you for your call. yes, there will be a whole lot of people. nearly a dozen panelists tomorrow night. will navigate a dialog tomorrow night with 12 brillian, so i can assure you all 12f them will help talk about the you will specifically have a conversation, i promise,there iy out right nowby an amazing documentarian about a famil thiy experienced in alabama, their land wastotwo of the brothers ay went to jail and stayed there years .
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look uraul peck, and you will find the documentary. there is a part of this conversation about climate justice, equity, andnce. we will be talking about that c-span at 7:00 p.m. host: lizhenderson, nevada, democrat. are you there? ■9nope. david genoa city, wisconsin, republican. caller: hello. not know if i can spit it out. you were talking about reparations, and it is such a
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complicated issue. ■x■ h had so many country that e disparaged. ho for black americans that weredescen? and we have others -- hello? host: just want to ask about reparations? caller: yeah, i do not understand how that would go, and what would that due to inflation, if we spend that money communities, and what would they do with those billions of dollars? guest: of all, reparations are not just about money. there is a whole other free that this country
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benefited from,e backs of free y ancestors. so legitimate conversation can be had about reparations. how we to the legislature, the country will watch to see what wei have a difficulty in people, respectfully, who think there is no rht this and what these persr families denied -- who were denied the for the work tht they did and for generationsc1■ç like families who werety, that , that income and struggled since. night in greater depth.e, b w there is a conversation to be ■o term.
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it has been up in thair, but i promise you we will get into that subject tomorrow night on c-span at the climate justice symposium. host: tavis smiley, syndicated talkshow host and author. thanks for joining us today.■o■. republican{. 0. independents, (202) 748-8002. some news items just to be aware of is in the guardian.com, benjamin netanyahu dissoed the israeli war cabinet. this move has rebuffed the far right and attempted to tighten the grip on decision-making over hamas andthat iinhe grdian if yu
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caller: for washington. i am looking at the dirtiest capital and white house i have ever seen. it gets dirtier every day. it is filthy. stuff get cleaned up?
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>> that is i do not know offhand. maybe we could get ttcaller: i w periodiclyuñ to voice my concerr our nation. i am a combat wounded vietnam veteran. very in love with this country. i'm concerned for our country. 't think this nation can survive.
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it will rip itself. he hasn dementia. host:■d a democrat in columbus, georgia. caller: i have been listening to the last caller talk about joe biden. i have the same feelings about from trump.there are a couple os that i relate back to the bible.
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■they stood up there and said we want■xv$ because of the way he was. he was so■ sometimes we pity pee so corrupt. e. i think about that one verse in the bible. ■
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