host: good morning.

president biden announced new immigration action yesterday. itthe legal

status for half a million undocumented immigrants thatzen. and heaven living in the country for at least0 o weeks ago, biden order migrants seeking asylum at the border. we are getting your thoughts and opinions on the presidec%'cies. if you approve of the presidt's, call us at (202) 748-8000. if you oppose. if you are unsure or agree with some and not others, (202) 748-8002. you can text us at (202) 748-8003. send your first name and city and state. we are on social media. facebook.com/cspan and x at @cspanwj. ton journal on this juneteenth.

parole in place. there are the outlines of the pocy. ed aec about 500,000 unauthoriz to u.s. citizs livi the u.sthe n it eases the path of permanent residency and ultimately u.s. citizenship. that is from cbs nlet's look att said at the white house anthere's a system in place for the peop we are talking about today but it's cumbersome, risky and separates families. ocument spouses must go back to their home country. mexico, for example. fill out status. they have to leave their famili in america wiq-th no assurance they will be allowed back in the united states, so they stay in america. but in the shadows, living in constant fear of deportation without the ability to legally

work. all this, they are eligible for of long-term legal status. i'm announcing a common sense fix for status for immigrants. married to american citizens who have lived here for a long time. husbands and children who have lived in america for a decade or more but undocumented, this allows them to file paperwork for legal status in the united states. allows them to work they remain with their families in the united states. this action sll requires on document spouses to file all required legaltates. it requires them to pass a criminal background check. it does not apply to anyone trying to come here today. it only -- it does not tear families apart by requiring every on document espouse the law. -- spouses under the law.

way, just as wasof dreamers, these steps are overwhelmingly supported by the mac people, no matter what the other team says. support this effort to keep families together. [applause] that washere is the front pagea today. program protects migrant spouses. biden offers new path of permanent legal it says thousans were married to u.s. citizens but in the countryw; illegally would be protected from deportation andanent legal status under a sweeping new government program announced tuesday. the would allow undocumented spouses and their children to apply for permanent residenting the country, but only if they

meet certain criteria. eligible immigrants must have resided in the more as of , monday. and, be legally married to a u.s. citizen by that date. ■w paroled or be a threat to public safety an avere igible have resided in the united states for 23 years, cording towe are getting your cs morning on that topic. our phone lines aresure. did you support the immigration border policy -- if you support the immigration border policy, (202) 748-8000. if you oppose, (202) 748-8001. if you are unsure, it is (202)wg strasburg, ohio.

caller: hi. i'm unsure because i think the border should have been passed in congress. that's why i'm unsure right now. if it hadn't been for that stupid orange oompa loompaould'l passed bipartisan. biden is trying to do a good job. trump just wants to put them in prison camps and work them to death and that is wrong. thank you. host: matt in new york. caller: good morning. that was a hilarious call you just hso much misinformation. it's a strangeoi are pulling ths in an eltion year, like obama did with the daca, which obama himself said was unconstitutional. it's a what kind of

information people are getting. sort of in the same vein with biden, he was actually lucid for a change. 2&now the white house is saying him being -- host: focusing on the immigration policies, are you against this newest policy illegal immigrants ma allowed to stay in the united states while they file for permanent statuscurrently -- before the py they would have had to leave the united start the application process, may or may not have geit could be of the 1s where they are separated. i am. all they are doing -- the original policy was for spouses

of military veterans of the united states. they put this on a stretch. host: the policy■ for any spouse of an americanthe po. ca originally it was for people that were in the military if they had a spouse not from this country that they could get legal status. that is what they are stretching. now we will a big run on scam marriages. host: actually, this does not apply if you are not already ma monday, the 17th. right now you can't go in get married program. caller: you think they are going to respect that?

biden's administration will respect that -- jeff in indianapolis. caller: i support the program. joe biden is trying to do something. the republicans don't want to do anything. if republicans were serious about doing something about the border and then they would come to the table and work out a deal. do something because thewa conta campaign issue. host: jef of is president bides doing this in an election year. he could have done in three years ago. caller: why did they keep saying he's not doing anything for the border then? hey want to continue to say that and if he tries to do something they say he's doing it as an election year stunt. what can you■f fred in cherry h.

i think this is a terrible idea, mainly because of the timing. it is going to encourage more illegal immigration. we have had so much since biden became president. the country. they are not being vetted. we've had over a million. we don't know where they are, who they to, what their intentions are. anything that makes it easier for illegal aliens will encourage more illegal aliens. host: do you think the last policy -- i hear what you are saying about the border,st polit have been in the country at least 10 years. would also encourage more people to come? caller: yes. anything that makes it easier

for th i■as gotowe don't reallye people. we have enough people already. a lot of people don't realize th immigration is an environmental issue. people are living in industrial countries like the u.s., it uses a lot more the planet'sresourcer countries. there's a big debate about this. we really do not need more people. the american peoplenderstand that, which is why the birthrate is what it is. bertha in richmond, virginia. good morning. i s biden for giving the immigration policies. we should have done this a long time ago.

i think there are too many foreigners now that have come into this■t country and what everybody is talkingnto the cou, everybody in this country is i'm black. including the white people. they are not the originals here. í coming into the country. yeah, we need to put a cap onpeo back and study your heritage. you are all not fromi'm not fro. i was bornn here. we need to stop being -- people are so -- if you are but if yo'r ethnicity -- host: what about the argument that you can come but you have to do it legal? caller: exactly. host:applies to

those that came illegally. caller: right. sin we came here -- not you and i but our ancestors were sent here. we went illegal -- weren't illega. we nd kg emn camps, separating parents of the children. thererehey came here. host: let's talk to steve in jose, california. caller: thank you for taking my call. i have to laugh because the ■qming a dictator. you do what you want.isregardwhó

the supreme court said that biden did not have the authority to forgive student loans. host: ok, but staying on immigration., ll: we all know the legislaturlegislature can do wh. ask your democratic callers what gives biden the right to do what he just did. host:n said, because congress has refused to act. #vtherefore i have been forced o e this executive action. he was waiting on congress to act. caller: that is an excuse.

the law states it is only the lath decide what should be done. what you have been in favor of that bipartisan deal worked out with senator lankford and senator sinema? caller: in regards to st: yes, the immigration deal. ó senate. caller: nothat would enshrine ia massive amount of illegals. trump could not change it. host: ok. you are just in favor of waiting on legislation until congress acts? caller: absolutely. host:oliver in falls church, ■:me?

host: go ahead. caller: i would like to say■■ i called on the unsure line because'm not sure -- i have friends who are hispanic who ca■tme guatemala and el salvador. families to get themselves settled inqiingt. they are both mother and father and three kids in washington withy he. i helped them get housing and cosign their loan to get a car. the family has done nothing■v bt surpassed my expectations. they pay their bills. they have both gotten jobs. their enrolled in school in washington, d.c. i believe president biden is doing the best he can with a congress that does not republicu

and just want to keep -- host:■xu are helping, did they come legally or illegally? they don't want border closed. they want thessue to face that the countries being taken over. i have hispanic friends were good people. stop treating them like dirt and calling them illegalthey are hue are. are -- they are themselves. white people, stop doing that. host:some lawmaker responses to the policy. matt rosendale, republican. "j using his executive power to legalinvasio.

he's puttindrug cartels and violent terrorist above safety." senator john cornyn. "another bid poll factor to incentivizellal immigration and insuring years of litiga."president biden will ana program tuesday to provide a ath to citizenship for hundreds of thousands of representative sylvia garcia. "i'm thrilled potus heeded e call of many of us to protect immianfamilies and dreamers. i stand with him begins in the houston area and all over the u.s. who benefit from president biden's new plan." judy chu. "this is the biggesteay for immigr since president obama created daca in 2012. hod ve to live with the fear being sepat from loved ones. i am relieved hundreds of thsands of american famies

can sing live and work with more stability." morning. caller: good morning, mimi. how are you doing today? don't hang me up to quick. this is carol from detroit, michigan, one of the biggest juneteen in life. for one thing, let me get this off my mind. fred was wrong and bertha was right. we are doing better now, whether they want to believe it or not.f this country every day. i have seen metro airports. i don't know■q why -- why the demonizing of biden. cxdon't like him, don't like his policy, ok. quit tearing this country down. that guy was right. you white people, you keep

wanting to hunt somody. ever since you had to let the black people go want to hunt somebody. now you have these immigrants. now you can hunt them now. stop. biden wants you to democrats want you to stop. the people in america want you to stop. decline. let's go to don incaller: i agt caller just got off the phone, but■f mimi, heisey that he alwas try to facts to republican facts and they refuse to listen to you. on. to immigration, i trul is on th.

have immigrants here 10 or 20 ■p guess what they are doing? they are paying taxes. they are creating jobs. they are not a strain. said the immigrants that are coming now -- it actually brought more income into the vernme. the republicans use immigration every election year as their codeword toase that everything is going wrong. host: on the unsure line. what is making you unsure about these policies? caller: because i'm not an expert in the field. that is why i'm unsure about it. i think it is better than what we a■rre doing now, and that is nothing.

that is what the republicans are doin doing something is better than doing nothing. turned 20 million immigras into taxpayers that put money into social secury ■n■janmoney . they put money into health care. we have a problem with immigration all around the world. have the weatheron around the . we have peopleit is not just am. if the republic -- but the republicans would have you think that. everything going bad is happening in america. no, we are doing better thannce. when trump left we had food lines. paper.

days to go to the grocery store. we are not living like that anymore. host: let's hear from the former president. held a rally in wisconsin yesterday -- he held a rally in wisconsin yesterday. [video] >> joe biden is granting mass -- he will formally grant mass y to millions of illegals who came to this country. you have that have been working for 10 years to try to come in lelld they working. under thisillegals will be givee green cards and put on the fast track to rapid citizenship so they can vote. i think a lot of them will vote for me. if you look at the hispanic population, if you look at the blackare voting for trump. they are voting for trump. look at you. thank you.

i like that person right there. but they get them welfare, free health care, food stamps. chain migration. one of the catastrophic one of many catastrophic things we are confronted with when they come in. crooked joe is sending a message that he rewards illegal entry. that is what isthey hear about s that are comingfsyourselves. the ones that are hurt the mos the black population, the hispanic population. you know who else is hurt badun. unions are not able to compete with this. this is a mass entry into our country and the unions are getting absolutely killed by it. all an illegal alien has to do is sign up for his new program. it is a sham marriage or college degree. expect amnesty and taxpayer support.

they want to get taxpayer support. we are supporting people to come in illegalbu soldiers, our veterans are dying on the streets of these horribly run democrat cities. our country is undion. we should not be talking amnesty. stopping the invasion instead. y.country. host: back to the calls with bill in casselberry, florida. morning, mimi. thank you for taking myi certaie president trump said, it is inundation, not immigration. the caller that was on a while ago that talked about how biden is a dictator. no,u9■' acting because congress.

ictator does he does things law and that is what. is going on it i't happen. this is not immigtiny longer. this is an invasion. we the taxpayers are footing the bill. we are taking care of their medical. they give them cell phones. they have that we pay for every month. host:/a■) i want to ask about te most recent policy aboimmigrantl immigrants married to american citizens. what are your thoughts on that? it is essentially shielding them fromorti and what president biden saidt ou he families. caller:it's interesting how mr.n

says things. he is usinthat as an excuse now because he's going to -- people mary. they need -- peopleon, they n -d to follow the law the constu they can't just run across our border grande and you get to go fly wherever you want into the united states. that is not how it works here in america. host: let's talk to michael next in connecticut. good morning. caller: hello. dn't realize i was on. leadership on a real issue. is refreshing to actually hear someone takingolhe is findp

needed and necessary amerit needs the support of america. you will see help wanted signs all over the place. immigrants are needed. let me point something out. i personally. when people think of immigrants in thisntry they think a black and brown people. stop. immigrants come in every color. we hear it all the time.people e color of the so-called new that is really what they are against. if they werewould not hear the opposition so strongly. i -- i will make a reference to a donald trump actually said. his first -- only term as president. have more people from norway? why do we have so many fr■@ wor.

let me remind you. egians don't want to come here because their education is for. there healthcare services are taken care of why would a norweo come to thamerica where they d't free education and don't get free health ca?g of immigrants s black and brown people. think of them as people who want to be americans and thank you, joe biden, for doing something about it. host: factory bill, pennsylvania. paul, you are next -- factoryville, pennsylvania. caller: things are having me. s6 go ahead. caller:this is totally out of cs saying how wonderful these new policies are.

this all could have been stopped in the beginning. it should have never even yo■nif he didn't use executive orders to do away with the pocihat were in place when he got into office we woul massn of the country. yes, it is an invasion. 90% of the people coming across, maybe lower, are singleales the age of 18 to 30. something? is it going to be an attack? knows. they keep saying all this nonsense. s coming in needs be controlled. he just passed a bill that will let 5000 a day and then they would stop until it reaches 1000. when does it stop?

if 12,000 come in today and they drop it down tot means is back up to 5000. it is never going to stop. it's all an invasion of our untry led by the biden administration. host: the washington post has some graphs making some comparisons between the biden and trump administrations.here l crngyou can see the trump ere, 2019-2020. this is when title 42 got put in place for the pandemic. (u i administration here. illegal crossings reached an all-time high of 2.2 million in 2022. that is right here, coming back

down a little bit in 2023. as far as who was coming over the border, this is single adults. during the trump administration and the biden administration. family units. ■nsingle adults have gone down e last year as compared to family units that have gone up. here is unaccompanied minors that are also with a small dip. u trump administratn blue is the biden the washington post. dear is mike in strongsville -- here is mike, strongsville, ohio. how are you today? i wasgy listening to one person talking about the married ones. what should they do with that? that is a really tough

assumpthe way to handle thats ue your wisdom. any of the o■=nes that a married should just go and getould be a. they do with the legal weight. then you -- legal way. ■ as far as everything else, the facts are that he did make a mess of the situation on the safety issue. that is the most important subject, safety in the country■h supporting it. you have to perspective rathere reckless.

you have to do it e right way. you can't be res here. it danger. for those that that, it shows you are not that sharp. why would you want to display that? you have to have common sense and wisdom with everything you do in life. you try to find a happy meeting. it is th■-only athere is no oth. host: in austin, texas. caller:i -- the problem we are experiencing at the texas border is that the flow is uncontrolled regardless,■■ there is

incentive to come into the united states. as long as there is incentive to come into the united states the cartels are being paiwe are los. drugs and cartel traffic. those are the interest being paid by the american taxpayer. the state department has a role intemigration through that amera andtates but they are not doing anything. that is why i'm not sure. the second reason is washington, d.c. used to think that the laws are some kind of invisible elastic policy thathanges per administration. they don't say that about things that are like criminalthey don'e law molestation, but

that is whatpening. they lost 85,000 children through h are -- they were in the wind. they were found on farms. they were found ind in central america working illegally here in the united states. additionally, we have people countries coming all over the united states. from, you know, they make it big to do about well, they are coming to the southern border. nobody is stopping them. they are not sending them back. the chinese are coming. northern california.illegalposte they are interruptingegal quatrains in the state.

they are conducting human slavery. they are capturing people and throwing up into the drago trying for human trafficking never to be seen again. -- dragon triangle. host: le' executive action on the border. get spds the processingf asylum when weekly average of daily crossings between ports of entry surpasses 2500. the restrictions are listed 14 days after a weekly average of daily crossings dip low 1500 and exempt unaccompanied children. we are getting your reaction to the biden administration immigration and border policies. rob inminnesota. caller: good morning, mimi. ■r■4i support this p understandt me if i'm wrong tisbasically, pe

smart enough to survive the whole trek up to immigrate into the country from 10 years agot d 10 years ago chance to be permanentin my opinion tho be incredibly smart people that d give so much benefit to this country such as increasing the average of the typical c-span caller. host: alrightjimmy ind morning. icallers are not very informed. let's be real. ■kmy grandparents came from ita.

they had notng ithpockets when . they did not get a free phone. they didn't get welfare. they didn't get anything. they had to go to work.■' were not allowed to become citizens for five years and make it on their own. when was the last of americans got a free phone, welfare, a place to stay, kids going to school for free? i'm all for real. thisdmnkrupting this country. they give free phones, free education, a place to stay,to $. i was■ thinking about going down to mexico and coming in and saying i don't speak english and then go to las vegas on that money. this isn't a joke. drugs are coming in. we are losing our country. we are going bankrupt. we are supporting wars that nobody's going to win. ridiculous what is going on.

i am all for immigration. t's do it real. shows you are playing, how many children are coming over? they are not working or paying into social security. they are getting asing. they get sick, they go to a hospital. i'm all for people being safe and secure. country. this is:k■.we have enough illeg. host: ithis is what i found aboe phones from usa today. hey fact-check on the concept that ice program gives limited tracking and communication. it says the claim is the badminx dollars to give smart to undocumented immigrants. says the claim is misleading and that the division of homeland security does issue

preloaded at some on document immigrants to ensure compliance wi stipula. they can only be useto accthey'. the used dates back to the t caller: ok. i understand what you are trade-off. how many got free plane ride from texas? i'm all for -- my grandparents were immigrants. on the second generation those here. host: the laws were very different back then, jimmy. the immigration laws. caller: don't you think people should pay their way? we have millions of people here. were just on walking across, they are getting education, free place to stay, free health care. ■vwe are going bankrupt. you have to count the cost

before anything happens. host: i have to move on. t in cleveland, ohio. thanks for taking my call. i'm kind of unsure. at this and one of the people have gone through a whole lot to getthese are highly motivated people. having is when i go across the country to different communities, especially cities where the populations are predominantly black, largely black, these communities are in really bad shape. you see a tremendous amount of crime. you look at thejw ownership. it looks like just in cleveland but across the country. the people who own these stores, some barely speak english.

i'zm noone folks that are discriminatory towards people who are from other countries. i'm of thegehen i was coming up in the blacka lot of . 90 go to the your gas station, your neighborhood store, even your tire places, they are all owned by immigrants. thpo unsure is you are bringingn more people into these communities that already have lost their economic base and the education is not helping them. these folks coming in are going to really go to these communities. they are certainly not going to go to they are not going to these communities. they are going to the cities. what it appears to me and all across the country is more

people w are going to -- they sowme up with the money. i'm not trying to sound ig like the african-americans and hispanics are left out. th be a major issue. what people are overlooking and it looks like trump is trying to i don'solutions or proposals but of african-americans are looking at their communities and they are seeing these basically taking over -- foreigners are basically taking over. i would think the bidenadministe they would address what's going on in the black community. host:t

biden marking the 12th program. [video] >> her a few of immigration areas that had the most positive impact and gotten more support from the border. es people known as streamers who can't- dreamers who came to america have the shadows. so many have graduated from hi4 school and college enter starting families on their own, building successful careers, serving the nation in uniform and so much more. we are much better and stronger because of dreamers, like. i'm announcing new measures to clarify and speed up work visas to help people, including ea universities, land jobs in high demand and highwe .

i want those■: to t thei skills and knowledge to work for here in america. i want to keewith the best worke world. we have record. -- a record. ígjust ask business leaders, labor leaders, ecomielected off. they know it is good for american business. they know its good for the american economy. they know it is good for america, pio build on other acte have taken to support dreamers, from defending dreamers in the courts and expanding access to health care for miio act, inclur dreamers. [applause]

host: getting your■0 the biden administration's immigration and border policies. /hjoycfrom new york city. hello. caller: hi. am i air? host: go ahead. caller: ihoi really thought it y targeted towards one spouse being american and the other in this country. biden mentioned it was 23■ years the average immigrant has been re with their spouse and started a family. this will add to the it gets permission to be here. we will be able■° to go on the x rolls and work, not be separated from their families.

think biden is very patient. he waited a longe o come through the plan. he doesn't t■" things through executive orders. he likes to do way. shame it did not happen this was put through by congresswomani'm really happy h. you havehe made two executive ds which can be reversed by any other president that gets in. he did not like to do that but he did it anyway. to start somewhere. you have to start; smallthat is. 'm soroud of this president. caller: good morning.

i'm totally against it. they keep talking about the republican and trump shot down the first bipartisan deal. ok. says 5000 threshold. ok. that is under discussion that the president can shut the border. shut the border in three and a half years. hamm -- him and mayorkas resented 68 lost trump he started this have you heard of the name rachellincoln riley? katelook at these people here. these were murdered and raped by illegal immigrants from

honduras, el salvador and venezuela. has nothing to do with a poll. in the latest executive order, 2500 he would have the authority to close the border. day since he has put it in effect. hopefully, god willing trump gets in there and he needs to declare a state of emergency cause this is an invasion. texas. cnn and they don't talk about those because they came in between 2022 and 2020 thre ?o they are not vetting them. they are vticountry but then t'd them. it is ridiculous.

trump needs to declare a state of this invasion and that is what s they are talking about -- host: oklahoma senator james lankford was on newsmax. he agrees with you, criticizing both president biden's recent ons. [video] >> it is the side-by-side. the worst is he announces he will close down the border if they get high numbers, which he has notthey have exceeded that r day after day. he's not enforcingthen he waitse will also allow half a million that are in the country illegally to not get path to citizenship, which is a big flack to everyone internationally to say get it to thcocunwe are going to give you citizenship. this has been the challenge with biden all along.

95 executive ords border up and inviting more people to come and we will announcee willlose the border down and actually does not. host: lankford there criticizing the president's border policies and immigration picies. we will hear from bowling green, ohio. senator lankford did not answer the question. he just responded back with all kinds of craziness. ■going to say i always call and i'm squeamish and scared but i will give my real opinion. i support president biden's immigration plan. support ronald reagan's immigration plan that if limited -- was implemented 0 years ago. that allowed■h my parents to stay legally.

5 million were given amnesty 40. 5 million. republican president. good for the country, good for the economy. why can't we go back to that kind of thought? you want to limit immigration? make it so employers get ■punished for hiring illegal immigrants. that is who the real problem is. people would not come here if they■xld not get jobs here or get exploited by richs% people -- not rich. that's all i've got to say. ric, oklahoma. caller: how are you? host: good. caller: i am against the immigration policies of the joe biden administration. i seathy with the latest action. one note you might want to■ ó& loudly is that they

have have lived in the country for 10 years. there are those t there who are married to people outside of the country. ■u3l■>xats rather bigroem. but there is sotrafficking andrs of the policies of t biden administration. we see it a lot in oklahoma. we see it a lot in texas. fentanyl was coming north and killing people. the other problem is young women in this themselves, especially i was a former high school teacher and wa for the possibily

oithat people were being trafficked. the mexican gangs are problem. i think you need to shut the rder and can control -- get control. host: in greenville, texas. caller: good morni. would like e presidential executive actions kind of out i know it is simplet trump versus biden's the reality is, it is a legislative inaction that is causing these different adni republican or democrat poit use on how to address the issue of the southern border. int is strictly a

legislative problem that they have been unable and unwilling to what the issues are. i liked a couple of colors ago and i respect opinion of the fellow in broken arrow called in. is, he was right. ame up with a very simple solution and it's 45 years. to being processed, getting a green card, what have you, perso make sure they will system as sy are@■employed in the united states. for heaven and employed

person coming into the united revenue for the federal government to work down the deficit or pay taxes and contribute to society. we are all immigrants. you can't say they are a justification for talking like that. all are immigrants. but if you verify,■2 the responsityn employers in the united states who by and large encourage immigration becausites them a source of labor that is less on being because they are being offered

opun getting in the countries they came from. here. host: let's talk to maria in washington, d.c. caller: good morning. thank you. robert is right. ■é■bironically, many of those ht amnesty before are the first ones who are going to say they need to come the right way like we did, like our parents. the conditions were very different than the process we have now. just the fact with this new exec of action -- executive action that someone who habe yee that have been here for 10■havea legal status case.

that says it all. that says it all about the system. it is broken. it is absolutely -- the of legislators to address it because it is a political issue. it is more ideological than anything else. ideologica immigrants as ra whatever. they will never mention the six people that lost their iollapsen baltimore. immigrants doing construction. they are mentioned. only the rape and■, cartels. it is more ideological and that prevents itaction.

these people will not be automatically be citizens. egal status, a resident sg this is just whatev. ller was absolutely right. thank you. host:host: all rigall for this . more to com during open forum if you did not get a chance in this hour. up next, sean davis, ceo and cofounder of the federalist will join us to discuss campaign 2024 and politil news of the day. later, we will talk with educated we stand upon jennifer jenkins and her effort to combat conservative influence on local education policies. we'll be right back. thursday, june 20 seventh,

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continues. host: we are back and joined by sean davis, ceo and cofounder of the federalist. nyu founded it, -- federalistou founded it. guest: we started it in september of 2013 and what we wanted was something different than the typical washington publication that collect of the gh of the people around washington and broadcast it to the people around the country. we thought it was time for washington and everyone in it to hear what e re of the country thought it needed to hear. we did something different where we were never all based in washington, most of the writers are not in washington.

we bring in people who work normal jobs, haveorlives, not focused on or obsessed with politics all the time and they have interesting things to say. we publish it's been a big succs so far. host: one o■/f thpieche federalr government needs you angry at foreign tyrants so you won't notice the ones ruling you." what does that mean? guest: it's i've noticed. i've worked in politics for 25 . there's something of a pattern that when things start to break down at home, your leaders try to focus attentionsewhere. right now and our country that is being done with the war in russia and ukraine. we are being told that is a thing we need to be super focused on, why we need to send hundredsions of dollars,

whereas i look at this situation here inflation skyrocketing, crime skyrocketing, health care that are completely absurd, a border that has broken down. look at those problems and i think that maybe we should b focusing on the problem here. maybe instead of being told that we need to hell -- need to worry about the bogeyman overseas, we need to worry about how our own government is taking political , throwing people in prison for praying outside of abortion mills, censoring its own press and people. that's the kind tyranny i find much more problematic tn something that might be happening 5000 miles away. i think that peoe sh aware that whenever their government is trying to tell them that the real enemies are somewhere else, somewhere far overseas, they are us something we should be paying attention to. host: just now you mentioned

people being put in clinics. can you explain exactly they we? it is not against the law to pray. guest: tell that to the peop pznow facing prison for praying outside of abortion mills. there is cunconstitutional law e face act penalizes certain speech, certain nonviolent protest actions only outside abortion mills. if you were to do this school, s wouldn't do anything to you, but if you pray and protest outside of an abortion mill, the feds would eak yto at dawn with guns blazing and put you in prison. host: if you actually prevent people from entering? i believe that is what the law says. guest: that is not has happened at all. people praying and protesting in front of abort mills.

i was alive in 2020, i watched all thce riots, i watched police stations getting torched and for days, weeks, months at a time. if you are telling me that somehow the real problem is that people who are praying outsiof s go free, sorry, that's just nonsense. ■v■]host: i want you to weigh in the gop between bobood, the head of the freedom caucusa. at this point it is too close to today is a federal holiday, so we won't know today, but what are your thoughts that? yeah,c. when i looked this morning, maguire was up to something like

320 seven votes, going back and forth alof night into the wee hours of the morning. bob good, the chair of the freedom caucus, solid conservative voting record. what made the race particularly nasty and contentious is because bob good had endorsed desantis, attracting the ire of donald trump. it ideologically like someone e would. he first asks himself if this person is for me or against me. so, he endorsed against bob good. compounding that you had kevin mccarthy coming in, angry over how he was being tossed from the speaker's office. he threw a lot of mone challengr . so, it looks like right now maguire has an edge. there is some dispute over whether all of the early votes

have been counted. was one of the more contentious, close primary races in the house that we have seen this year. host: does endorse? idates? guest: we don't endorse anyone or anything. i know it is popular among washington to have editorials where they speak with at whether this person is good or bad. we allow writers to defend them under their own names. in the 10ears that have existed, the only thing we have with a singular voice is that the white house correspondents dinner that takes place every year is an abomination in needs to be canceled. beyond that, we don't endorse candidates for or against. host: if you would like to join the conversation, you can do li. republicans, (202) 748-8001.

democrats, (202) 748-8000indepe. our est, sean davis. president biden announced executive action on immigration yesterday regarding spouses of american citizens. what was your reaction? dereliction of duty on the border is nearly criminal, and e administration have completely failed to itlaw of the land on the border is a complete travesty. i think there is any number of things tbi could be impeached for at this point, whether it is hi's business dealings or the lawless law fair of his doj fbi or their attempt to put political opponents in prison. host: sean, i hear what you are

saying, but policy for those that are married tamerican citizens and have been in the country for 10 years. guest: i think eher■# you come here illegally and are a citizen or go through the process or you don't. to me it's not a complicated issue. if you did not come here we sh'g things to make it so you can be here. there's lots of people who follow the rules and the laws and they go through thss. i think that those are the people that should be granted citizenship under the law. we don't need to hand out new dispensations while we leave the border wide open. host: in this case the law had always been that if you are married to aizen, you can get status that you have to up to 10 years and applied a come back. what president biden■ai want to keep families together, you cand stay with your spouse and children. guest: and

laws for a reason and i don't buy the new rationale. it's just another attempt to keep the border wide open and bringn illegal people here who didn't go through the process legally. host:t do you mean by law fair? guest: when authorities ule of law, the system of law, law eorcement to go after their enemies, political or othwifor example, f justice that chooses not to prosecute a particular politician for storing classified documents in his 's not allowed to have while raiding anotherchallenging the current regime, a regime that to put his political opponents in prison, tries to censor political opponents, that's un-american and needs to stop. ho do you think a candidate's criminal record is a legitimate

issue for an election? guest: can you be more specific? host: just that. any candidate with a criminal record, a felo conviction, is that a legitimate issue to bring guest: when you are theou are te regime and bragging about how the person you are running against has been convicted in a people from your own apartment of justice were deployed to make it tell you that's absolutely going to be an issue. i don't think it's going to turn t the way this administration wants, but this business of calling trump a convicted felon and thinking that will people don'te through it is crazy. they are going to try it, they don't have a record to run on, they only have the law fair against trump to run on. i guess if that is all they have, they will do it. i don't think itill work well for them, though. host: all right, let's start ge,

democratic line, good morning. mr. davis, you seem to be all over the place in refee truth. how can you believe a guy that tells over 40,000 lies in donald trump and then you have two people, from florida, tim scott from south carolina, voting against the voting rights act that gives black people the gh? then you are going to try to tell us that your agenda is good for america? ukraine, you know good and well. ■democracy is fading around the have 72% of the world's run by dictators. please, you gotta stop leaving in the lie of donaldhost: coupl.

guest: yes. know, i was alive the last four years. i was aliv during the four years that trump was president. i will tell you, crime was a lot pocketbook was a lot older area the world was far more when trump was president. vladimir putinas president. he did that so, i can understand why you might want to focus on ukraine when things here are so bad, but i don't particularly care about tyrants overseas, there have been tyrants through human history and there will be what leaders arer we are al doing to fix the country we live innd duty to the citizens who pay their salaries and who they work for i'm focuse problems in the u.s., vladimir putin is my problems.

zelinski is nne of my problems. a disintegrating border and a lawless administration with rising crime, those are problems we should be focused on right now. host:ichard brought up the voting rights act. do you have a position on that? guest: i didn't get any sense of specifics and there other being. i don't really know what i can address in his comment. host:rights act in gera position on that? guest: he claims that tim scott wanted to take away black people's right to vote. i d' he didn't have a specific question. i don't know what to address. host: washington, d.c., good morning. caller:or having me. i just wanted to make two quick whites. the first is that frequently can

, otherwise known as doctors offices, abortion mis. . he wouldn't call a center where kidneys, he wouldn't call that like a kidit's nothiny man -- language meant to make people upset. second, with response to the previous caller, "the federalist " has a dark recordons with african-americans. until october 22, the federalist had a black crime tag with articles related to criminal activity by african-americans. the black crime tag was called, "unfortunate, by law fair review, it's a real thing that happened that you cannot explain away. the federalist society fights tooth and nail to hide its donors. guest: not the federalist

society, sir. we are not the federalist society. ■get your facts right. i would also add, by the way, the ar are mad about that sup tag was an artice written by a black man from a speech from obama talking about crime in the black community. t sorry. caller: it's the name of your organization. guest: we are not the federalist society. host:called "the federalist wha. you could talk about the funding you get, where does that come from? guest: this person seems to be a reader. we sell ads like everyone else. we have subscriptions. i would thank him personally for funding us by visiting our website. host: julie is next, republican

line, rhode island. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i wanted to say thank you to this gentleman for speaking the truth and not hiding. so many people you say trump, they run. they r it's sad,ld trump has done so mh for this country. joe biden taken this country

just about over theliff. this country is not a democracy.

it's a republic. i am so sick of hearing the democrats spewing that. i'm also not afraid to tha lives under president. as a retiree under biden, i had

to g■o back to work. thank you so much for the truth. goodbye. host: any comment?

guest: she's awesome beverly hi, democratic line, good morning. caller: good morning, how are you? host: good. caller: basically, i totally law fair and presidentf trump's legal issues and i will tell you n is d fact that trump has been engaged in lawsuits, snares, and legal cases his entire adult professional life. over 4000. 4000, going back to 1970's. he of legal drama. whether or not he was running for the would still be involved with legal drama.

4000 is a lot and it says a lot about the man. it says a lot about his character. furthermore, no one needs to lift a finger, no one needs to lift a finger to do anything to create any kind of legal problem forfinally, the criticism aboutd out of touch, people, -- evil, if that is true, how would he be such a master■ nine to coordinae with so much sophistication under so little theseank you. host: sean? guest: she made a great point there, if bdoddering, senile kid fool out to lunch, doesn'know where he is, how could all of this stuff be masterminded? ■'s a great question.

we can all see biden on he is not the joe biden i remember when i worked on hill. not the joe biden i remember as vice president. the guy hasn't lost a6- step. he's lost a marathon. to answer a question, he's not running the show. anyone who watches this administration and thinks that joe biden is calling the shots is delio it's obvious to me that you have a bunch of obama hands, poteíntially obama even himself running the show behind the scenes and it is w so furious ae video of this celebty biden froze on stage and had to be let off by-- led off by obama. wizard behind the curtain. if biden isa doddering fool, how can he be doing these things? there are other people behind the scenes pulling the strings. host: she mentioned a

that have been dogging former president trump for quite a during his long, professional career. what do you say that? guest: the man was a real estate developer in new york city. i don't see how you can possibly do that and not constantly be involved in lawsuitas far as the of that stuff started until he beat hillary clinton. show me anything past 16 a i wi roll my eyes because it is political. host: quakertown, pennsylvania, independent mine. caller: yes, hello? host: go ahead. caller: i havence with most of the politics in washington dc. it all starts with two words, five letters, fix problem at the border, fix it. if there's a problem in or other places around the

world, fix it. senators, congressmen, the president were sent to washington, d.c. to fix it. all we get now is bombs thrown at each other. one party says the sky is falling and we are all going to go over the party says well we are going to save the worldith a plan to do either. i believe that, china, rack or winning -- arson -- are winning the battle of splitting the united states and of the wedge they are using is the internet. the internet now gives all of e whiners in the country the opportunity to whine and not have a fix-it attitude. ng the internet, dividing these valuese other party has -- what about american values? saving our cit. to the best for the citizens,

not what is politically effective. ■!we, the citizens of this couny are going down the tubes. st: go ahead. guest: i think most politicians in washington don't care don't care problems. a lot of the problems■ we face our problems they created, either intentionally or through general ineptitude. i completely agree with him. people want someone who willme t things back to the way they were, make the country and safe. great point. host: on the republican line toronto, canada, godfrey, good morning. caller:z÷ hello, good morning. sean, good to see you. i just wanted to make a few comments. first of all, for these democrats that are d that

biden has anything to do■diththn is the beneficiary of [indiscernible] you can't thnow that biden will be the beneficiary. they know this. i s just goi to go to work, i saw the you -- i saw you, wanted to ask you about the cnn who do it. who not a particularly objective news outlet. the only news outlet in america today that has the for these guys is c-span and i wonder why you didn't insist that it be held on c-span. look at who is moderating the debate.

■zbash is to the left of barack obama. jake's to the left of joe biden. they are not going to ask about the economy. they are not going to ask about interest rates. points, what is your second point? caller: is thehe vice president. choice, but there is a name that trump has not floated and i'm so shocked, the two-term governor of the great state of wisconsin, scott walker. scott walker would be me talk p campaign, if you can. host: let's get a response, those two things, sean. guest: the debates coming up, june 27, which i thing is totally■?i don't have at theó) l

debate happening before the nominating conventions happening in the summer. i don't know exactly what's behind it. ■uas far as allowit cnn, i wou. jake tapper is a■í collusion hoax and everyone ■ó lefty in oo work there. one on one debate. i think it will be trump versus cnn versus joe biden, but it wi bmore entertaining maybe. as far as the vice president, you know, trumpas a lot o great choices. there is a pretty deep bench on the republicane right now. heard scott walker in the mix. he was great. stefano, i happened to be

partial to sarah sanders in arkansas. trump is on predicable on this. i wish i had a good read on whoy tuned and see what he comes up with. is next on the independent mine. caller: thank you to c-span for what you do. do you have an opinion on the unattended children who are coming? adults are one thing, kids are anbother. i think it fundamentally comes down to lack of leadership in this country. ■mto hear your opinion. c-span, thank you for what you do. goodbye. guest: i think it comes down to, really, what's happening at the border.

the border is wide open and as a result, a lot of the cartels are trying tgelegal immigration across the border in addition to effectively running the narco s that mexico has become. they chargob they will açy own and charge ridiculous amounts of money to get them across the border and i will say, this doesn't happen wh■en you have a border that is closed. this only happens when a completely leaky, porous border with awful people doing awful take advantage of that to make money. so,f you children, something everyone is worried e at all about children, you should want to put a stop to that. there are a couple of ways you should put a stop to it on the backend, let everyone in and sorted out when they are here, or stop them on the frontnd and reduce all the reasons and

incentives that are therefore peop try to ship children across the border. if you close down the border and up the illegal immigration that is happening, the problem goes away. st when you say close the border allow anybody to claim asylum and have asylum hearings in the united states? would you take that protection guest: that's a loaded question. being completely abused. thereconditions that have to bet in order to get government. ÷,and cartels over in mexico. what we actually need to do is enforce the asylum law and say that if you are not actually fleeing civil war, fleeing natural disasters, if you are not a political priserof genocit qualified for asylum. asylum is a specific legal

definition that ha completely been ignored by this administration. i don't want to revoke it, i ed as written. host: you fund additional judges to hear the cases? righ the number of judges able to hear the cases. guest: and it's happening because the system is being flooded by pple who kné[■p tt this administration is going to pretend that every case. no, you need to close then the books and enforce them as written. host:dy, michigan, democrat, good morning. caller: good morningyou keep meu know, russia was taken over ukraine, how come you don't mentioned 2014 when they took over crimea? are you just willing g rich ru? thed there and say that, you know, while the riots was

going on during the trump time, all trump had to do was say that rioting is at night, protesting his during the ended that in one second. the whole thing about it is i watched, id in wisconsin right o where all ofhat watched nice, d going on all daynothing going o. as soon as it got dark, we whits over their faces starting fires. that was after dark. that's your president that allowed that to go on. how come that ain't being brought up? i lived there. thishi being so great, i lived there my whole life. that■p man went against 70% of e people, saying no we won't have pot drugs at the tavern, that can keep pot illegal and throw all of these people in jail to pay for these let's be honest. host: all right, go ahead. guest: i don't know much about

pot in wisconsin, i pass on that question. as far as the riots, you know, i recall in 2020 -- first off, i wasn't awareppens during the day, it's not a riot, that's not the fi i'm most familiar with. i absolutely agree that both state, local, and federal law enforcement should have done a lot more to crack down on the rioters and the violence. i do recall however, a certain senator publishing an article in the times around th yeah, we nee federal action. the left had a meltdown, you had people threatening the times opinion desks and newsroom for resignatn shouldn't enforce the laws on rioting. you know, it's kind of rat conning to look back and say --t done more. wheneverhe federal government

tried to do anything had federal officials try to do something with the riots, they were attacked as racist and fascist and what have you. ll correct, putin invaded in 2014 when barack obama was president and i think that's just a perfect example of how foreign-policy weakness has consequences. host:■you from creekklahoma city, who says "the f■2er," whar thoughts on cha nominee? he strikes me as kind of a weirdo. i think the libertarians h thisp a serious candidate who is focused on getting government out of the way of people in restoring the liberty of people and their rights. it looks like chase oliver seems to be a typical left-wing rainbow activist within l next

-- wish an lexhe strikes me as y unimpressive. host: bradley, marietta, georgia, good morning. caller: i am awesome. caller:no limit to what you will tolerate with trump?cx i use to respect you a. you used to talks about policy and immigration but now all y'all do is just make up and rationales for donald trump. let's look at russia. donald trump shared campaign data with russia. he conspired with russia. now you apparently are as well. you are russian talking points. i'm sure there's russian money in your financials. you seem pretty -- gu you are lying, stick to the facts.

host: right. any response? guest: he needs to lower the coffee intake in the morning, try decaf.host: christopher, new your turn. caller: yes. um, about the comments of not praying in front of an abortion clinic. if the president was sick and people were praying outside -- i'm not saying the president is sick, but people woulprayoutsi's my question. number one. two, the money, the cash , the change, the cash money says in god we trust. i'm sure we've got some gold that says in god we trust.

i'm also, if you want to know what an artificial intelligence thanks, you c videf gunship ghost ship gunship. look at the youtube of the two asians on it. host: kevin, san caller: yes, i wanted to respond sean's comment. he said the police are arresting and rat individual -- raiding h. example of where the police came in and arrested someone for praying guns blazin. support war criminal vladimir putin■9, who s

been charged for least 100,000 ukrainian children? he's sitting here saying russia doesn't matter, charged, accuser ren. host: sean? guest: there are numerous examples of people's homes rated at gunpoint for the crime of protesting and praying in front of abortione of them happened rn nashville, i believe it was a pastowor. yes, there are examples of that. it has happenedy. disagree with that.ngyr it's not my problem and it is not my -- this country's problem. our problems are what's happening in this country, s dollar, inflation out

of control, crime going uplems e government should be focused on, not sending hunddsoverseas to fy have no plan of something of a national pastime for the govern than's darting -- then starting wars they have no plan of winning and destination, no definition of victory. host:s what is your response to putin not being our problem, kevin? caller: basically, it's a lie. let a mere putin is a threat to the -- vladimir putin is a

subducted thousands of children fuk about the police ae coming in guns blazing, arhe's saying that police are coming in, shooting people because they were praying outside of a medical clinic? i didn't make that up. he set it in his opening statement. i said give me one example of them cominghost: i think helk tt view. caller:you know, i look at the situation of the country and everythi.we are toozr involved d outside this country. we have got to c uhouse. we have got a problem here. we have got a president that don't know what he's doing and

we got somebody behind him pulling the strings. if y cannot see that, you are a blind person. we down, down, down. this, the reason unemployment is what it ibecause ey are hiring illegals. it ain't got nothing to do with . these people laying in the street, taking dope and all that, that didn't happen, how many years old, that didn't happen in my young life, because the people would not it. we have let it get out of hand. now it's worse and it's going to get worse. )-■.weeed to clean up our county and forget about everybody else. host: sean, go ahd. i agree. we need to home. that doesn't mean that the rest of the world is utterly unimportant.

of course it's important. but let's say i've got a■o house and leaky plumbing and the electrical wiring isfences are k running around, ple all over the road, the things i should be focusing on are those ms, not what's happening my money on a neighborhood 500 miles away head. so, i to be focusing on the problems at home. as foreign policy is concerned, strong foreign py mot wars. i' don'ttay out of our way, if you threaten us, there will be severe consequences. unfortunately, over the past 25 years our foreign pocy■q been the opposite, we start foreign wars where our government has no plan for

victory, no plans to finish, we spend trillions on it and it empowerswhat happened in a rackt happened in afghanistan, that empowers tierney's like china. when they see that america is a paper tiger, it tells them they can hings they would not otherwise do, which is where -- why yoully-nilly go starting wars, you end showing people that you are weaker than you might assume with terrible long-term consequences. we will be dealing with those ns generations. it isn't a thing that will go away in a year or two, which is why you have to be so judicious in how one more call from palm orbeach, florida, independent. caller: i love c-span. i wish c-span could hold a presidential debate.

i'm interested inthings. c citations to see wherein there was someone in front of an abortion clinic and was putnpri? specific citations. if you could citation that i can personally vet, if i se i can say mr. davis is right. on another point, he was talking earlier about retribution on political enemies. i'm an independent. if you are going to party, yout any party, whether it is your own. donald trump has made it clear that he will do nothing but retribution to his political enemies, democratic or republican party. we talked about people saying he mentioned that there's people pulling the strings

behind mr. biden. you know what? mr. trump had somenerals, secree behind the strings and you know j- to listen to them but he needed someone to steer him in the right place. necessarily close the borders, but work on1x the border, you hd bipartisan support from democrats and republicans. they are the ones that made the deal. they should have put a■■+olicy r a piece of legislation on the table that could be and not be a politicalooget trump e. those are my parting shots and i would like to hear what mr. da harold had a great question on l'affa s retributio. guest: --guest: l'affaire, trump promised retribution.

a lot of us have warned for years that if you have your government go and start imprisoning their political opponents, starting to shut down people's speech, they use the legal system to prevent someone from being olot or even from being free to run a campaign, there wbethat is a get put backn the lamp, cannot put the toothpaste back in the tube and it is why so many of us issued so many warnings to joe biden that your administration 't do this. if you raid mar-a-lago and try to put trump in prison, there will be consequences. the example i would give his a lot of people are upset with russia this morning. let's look at the coldar. ■yewhat was the doctrine that ed the cold war? mutually assuredit was the ideae had so many nuclear weapons, so much firepower, if one side struckthat it would be destroyed and life off the ear■4th because the othr

side would be able to launch a nuclear arsenal before they were but we have entered into now with l'affaire is era of mutually assured destruction. once one side is side to unilaty disarm. i wish wese>= we had where we 'o these don't politicize the legal system, i would love to go back to that where we have one system of law and rules, that's not the landk wif the last ins t insists on a system whernents in prison, they will have to a -- except that ife gets in power, e thing will happen to them and ie first place. host: he asked about a citation for a case of someone praying, peefsting in front of an abortion clinic being put in prison, do you have that for us quickly? guest: yes, i've used the nashville example several's oddf

these people are over the idea should be allowed to pray in front of an abortion clinic. justi.gov, go to federalist.com, search for the faith act, there are numerous examples of people who have been convicted and numerous people still awaiting trial. host: sean davis, ceo and cofounder of "the federalist," you can read his work at federalist.com. guest: thank you. host: later, we will talk with jennifer jenkins of educated we stand about her conservative influence on educationa calls. you can start calling it now. repuandemocrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. we'll be right back.

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heard that nonconforming parts boeing airplane? ensures us that -- >> whistleblowers have told us that nonconforming, damaged, defective parts were installed, and at the least hidden from the faa. >> senator, i read the complaint this morning. i do know and have followed■ up that it was received in our system and that the qualityhas . more than happy to get on that. i apologize, morning. >> i would hope that you would. you don't know of a single incidence of discipline for ? that's what you said earlier. >> i said we had taken action on people who we■7■:éy■ have detero

have retaliated, but i do not have the number. >> can you tell me about one? >> i'm not going to tell you about one, sir. we have a process. it works. >> i beg to differ, it's not working. >> ok. >> it's not working. you know it's not working. let me tell you, have you read thisabout what john barnett said about one employee. ?g -- mr. barnett, are you aware of ever hearing about any employees being physically assaulted? assaulted for raising safety complaints? answer, barnett answering -- i have actually heard of one. the name is blank. telling mes dealing withperson'. e the procedures.

she told me th■at he tually put his arm against her and pushed her against the wall and was pointing in her face telling her to get on board. this was a good old boysogram, . that's the end of the quote. >> yes, sir. 1m did you look into it? >>his ago. did you look into it? >> it happened a long time ago. i stard in 2020. it's horrible. it's tragic. i don't kn we are taking your cs in open forum, starting with sam in florida, democratic line. caller: looking forward to speaking with sean davis. host: so sorry, sam, he's gone. just me. caller: he's gone? all right, thank you.

host: what did you want to say? oh. ep indiana, republican. caller: got a couple of comments and a question about the --our homeland security seems to failing u -- be failing us,don't understand whye russia, i don't know what they are doing over here in cuba right here. you can see the, tinvading. they say it's exercises. could somebody explain what's russiaand the, the■ sma over in

cuba on the shores over there? just outside, 90 miles outside florida? is it an exercise? is it -- is it some -- are they -- host:çb stephen, i've got this r you from the associated press, "russian warships leavvn the havana port after a five-day visit to cuba." there's a here, it says "a fleet of warships including a nuclear powered submarine left the port of havana after a five-day visit following planned military drills in the atlantic■[ o. the exercise was seen by some as a show of streth by moscow against the backdrop of tensions as u.s. and other wesrn nations support give in the russian -- support kyiv in the

russian war on ukraine. the slowly departed from the port on monday morning. fleet's next destination is or where it willm dock next in the caribbean, thoug that it could n venezuela. you can read that in the associated press. joycirindependent, good morning. caller: i just wanted to call in. i enjoy watching c-span. sure. caller: so loved the world that he gave his only begotten . i'm a christian. another thing itlove of money il people. -- evil. god

image. he also says love thy neighbor as they self. that's all i have to say. host: philadelphia, good morning. demoatic caller: mi on here? host: yes, you are. caller: thank be with you. i'm a native american. i see many people coming to thi country claiming this country to be their homeland. paper, they write on it, you claim a tree, you claim a home, you claim the la. this land where you are standing has enoughbb the whole world. but if your heart is not here, if■d you don't love this land ad cherish it and work for it, you are just an immigrant sojourning

to come or go to someplace you have been before. so, this is my message. if you come into this country and you get an education, pay family, but you want to go back to somewhere you have been before, your heart is not in this land. so, white people, black people,o comes into this country and your heart is not here, get o. get out. host:h, georgia. independent line. caller: i have been concerned with this political retribution spiel that has been aired and talked about and on the internet and the law war. retribution from trump.

trump has committed a number of crimes. he's been indicted and republicans are still trying to. i don't thinking, because who stands behind a known criminal? who would do that? who would back that? i don't understand it. i would like mr. davis who is talking about starting wars -- war for afghanistan it certainly wasn't a democrat. trump did not stop any wars whatsoever. trump has not stopped one single work. he has created a l o havoc right here in our country. he can't say what he did on january 6 -- he knows.

he knows exquisitely that he invited those people. he incited those people. told them to go to the capil, peacefully, but only when they went there. then he told them to fight like heck for they would not have a country -- or they would not have a country. i don't undeta anyone would be standing behind a guy e committed felony crimes. leading up to that we are goinge calls. hold. it is juneteenth by zach willian state university. welcome to the program. guest: thank you so much for

having me on. good morning and happy juneteenth. host: remind us about juneteenth and what it means and how it got guest: certainly. juneteenththe final ending of sn the united states. it transpired in texas june 19, 1865the last remainingblacke informed of their freedom in general order 3 which was read from the balcony in galveston, texas. commemorates. host: this is the third?c year since it became a holiday. what impact has at on the holiday and on the country? guest: great question. it's had tremendous impact on the holiday.

the recognition across the country and especially at the federal level establishes its significance for those of us who have been celebrating at a local level for a numb o think it is e right direction for us to acknowledge the very slow procended and to celebrate toger as a community once and for■ all its official ending. host: you haveenth can also be a time of teaching and history everywhere. what do you mean by that? certainly. what we -- we talk about this at the national level but regionally and locally black history has different trajectories and different past experiences. i'm from the pacific northwest i was raised in seattle. our history aroundar

is different than a place like texas or the south. however, the black population of py migration beginning in the earlymany of the black seattleis come from texas and louisiana in particular. ■zit was the migration of black people from xath celebrations te west coast. we see by the 1940's celebrations popping up from san angeles, oakland, california. also portland, oregon and seattle, washington. we can trace the histories of migration and learned about the ways are west coast communities were constructed and the tensions around black exclusion. g practices and other practices of segregation that greeted african-americanse.

when i say juneteenth is an■w op locally in different places, this is part o■f what i tracing the history of migration and the ways the aspirations of african americans brought them to new places and the opportunities as well as the challenges that faced them upon arrival. host:az how do you think nonblak people should commemorate this what do you recommend? guest: excellent think what we s acknowledge and the hopes and desires of those freed slaves who never gave up the hope for freedom for themselves or their families. who upon freedom threw themselves into gaining equal status in american society. not second-place citizenship. fullwe should ask ourselves tody how far we for full equity

and equality for the descendants of the slaves. what should allies, nonblack people and other americans do? we should put ourselves towards learning black history, the ocnot just about slavery but segregation, j lynching, economic repression. the things that come after m that put black people in a second-placewe should commit o learning the history. on t other s things i think we should continue to advocate for full democratic participation for l ciually. this means addressing the ways african-americans are limited at the ballot box through tigerrymandering, voters which are inequitable, as as the other processes that

exclude african-americans from -- all americans of lower-class status from equal participation within the political system. ied to think about what the econicwe know afy covid-19. if we think back to thelsdreamsd slaves, full economic participation and political participation was something that was on the ballot and we sd youe come and commitrking locally toe inequities. host: how are you celebrating the holiday today? guest: i'm starting off by celebrating with you. i'm happy to be here speaking with you and the audiencebouti'e

ethnic studies 101 in the summer course. what i'm doing is teaching my students about the importance not only of the holiday specifically but about the path to slavery and the commitments tablets and not just by african markets but amicans of all color to breakdown slavery -- break downng. host:k you for joining us. guest: have a great morning. as you know, it is juneteenth. today we will be covering a celebration of the holiday taking place on the ellipse outside the white house. the event includes scholars reading documents related to emancipation writings organizedy the national juneteenth observance you can watch that live at noon here on c-span, c-span now, or online at c-span.org.

we will get back to your calls now wh■x waiting in wisconsin, independent. caller: hi. i have a couple of things to get i don't understand why nobody brought this up. hr 2 has been in the senate since the congress. ■-there is some good law reform and that. ne said the states were found on farms. i had not heard that. maybe you guys could look that up and see. two more illegal juneteenth.to me -- it is it is slavery by any otheryou hd people to pick our potatoes.

i say potatoes because, 10th generation irish -- i am a 10th generation irish. my family has the ro it seems like slavery by any name is slavery. the health insurance exchange,on for 10 years now. 37all i ca is get my annual. anything else costs me. it is catastrophicnsce. it is not health insurance. thank■b you. host: in brownsville, new jersey. caller: doing? thanks for taking my call. host: go right ahead. caller: i went to go on a certain little rant and i want cuss. host: think -- won't cuss.

caller:'= how stupid can we get? being a democrat for sofightingn because i think i opened my eyes and now realize that the last thing i will do is call on the republican linit is scary. my thing is, i think it was the last election for. c-span was going to be he was busted working for the other side or something. ok. it was a big problem then. now we have debates that are being fearless, he's going to do it.

my god. the commentators should have th muted too. i have a i went shopping for food. there is nothing for a dollar anymore. if you are voting for biden, you ain't shopping. here. they have to retool. -- i am a tool the 1970's and at my last job i did not speak spanish and that was a problem. boeing sold out because they need new tools. the l.a. hope for boeing is to probably go to china at this point -- the only hope for boeing is to probably go to china at this point. we have toon. come on. with that said, if we want to be a good communist■id

to get a dictator that we know and respect. biden right now we do not know. with that said, i could go on. host: thank you for not going on. let's get olivia in birmingham, alabama. democrat. caer good morning. juneteenth. [inaudible] talking abh this young to limit. -- donovan. young gentlemen. juneteenth recognizes our heritage and white supremacy in america that is really strong rit people not voting for donald trump, especially black men. i have not seen black women doing it. th means to me that black lives matter. jute■enth means that voting rights matr. it means that donald is

talking down tojuneteenth meansg books for us about what went on with our you know what? making stupid mistakes in the eed to know what happened in america. slightly was real. slightly is real. juneteenth recognizing the foundation that you had on yesterday -- i wanted toin. juneteenth means thank god for dr. fauci that help solve the aids and hiv problem in america. 't want to face the fact that juneteenth means that myw died of

covid. my niece was on a ventilator for a9n month at uab hospital with covid. donald trump lied about it, saying you could drink bleach. [inaudible] means to me. black people, wake up init is te your heritage. juneteenth is real. i was wa c-span and wondering if you were going to do something about juneteenth today.■> thank you, mimi, for recognizing juneteenth i want to show you ts quick from the washington post. what juneteenth did and did not do. in 1903, black men walk into an office in a small town in texas seeking any news about whether slavery had ended. the may have been forced to labor without pay 38 years after

major general gordon granger landed on galveston islan texas, and whether 2000 federal soldiers delivered theelated frd black people in texas. rpthe article says the announcement on june 19, 1865 did not ended slavery in texas. the buyback institution continued ondj% by other names according to historians. "there was almost universal agreement from statements of enslaved■; people that many texs slaveowners held off making the announcement. theyr crop." karen in wilmington, delaware, independent. caller: good morning. for anybody who wants to itaw en reflect sunlight off a window,i.

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green new deal energy climate,whatever, bf you're going to spend the■l mony to replace your windows with efficiencythink about it and make sure that the windows are not going to cause neighbor's home. host: how far caller: not even 30 feet. ced it, it looks like a ripple. a little ripple on the siding. as the months went■v by it stard to get worse. within probably one year to 18 it was so damaged we literally gorilla tape her house. we went outside with gorilla tape and s up where it buckled. if you drive down the road and see a home next to an adjacent

home and it looks like the siding is buckling and popping out, chances are it's because a these new energy-efficient windows. host: i have to go but i appreciate thel and everybody that called enduring open forum. up next on washington journal educated we stand jennifer jenkins joins us to discuss■xo't conservative influence on local education policies. stay with us. ♪ >> tune io c-span's live coverage of t 2024 national political conventions starting with the republicans event in milwaukeon july 15. next up, the democrats as they convene instay connected tofor n

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interruptions, and completely unfiltered. c-span. your unfiltered view of government. >> nues. host: we are back now and we are joined by jennifer jenkins, the founder and chair of a group called 'educated. we stand." e to the program. guest: thank you for having me. host tell us about the organization and what prompted you to start it. guest: i am a mom and educator. i married a high school history teacher. ran for school board in 2020 because i believe the people who sat on the school board should reflect the values of an organization that i loved. afr deat the founder of became ground zero for aa national trend of an of public y far right extremists. unfortunately, this is not just happening in florida.

we see this across all 50 i felt compelled to organize the opposition, because make no the future of public education and the real foundation ourdems november. host: how are you funded? we are supported by a grassroots movement right now■ we are doing really well. i'm overwhelit's been about a me have launched. we have donors from er 4states. host: you■z■ mentioned the conservative education group called moms for liberty. concerns you have specifically with that group and their approach? monitor liberty as labeledwithin that movement thee decidedrights of many other par. the majority of parents make a choice to support their public schools. ■ey love and respect their teachers. this movement has reallysive enr

those and varmints are hostile for manytoday is juneteenth. one thing we are seeing in tivated by so many of the moves of momsor education. they are rewriting african-american history standards. ap of african american history curriculum. we had a congressman who highlighted jim crow prosperous time for black families. what we have elected activists r liberty campaigning and they are aiming to ensure we relive the darkest parts of it. fox news has reported your state governor ron desantis is looking to move out school board members who challenged his education agenda. where do you and others fall on

that list? guest: i'm pretty confident i'm number one on t when tne time to take what i have experienced over the past three and half years. after i defeated the founder of moms for liberty i became the target of a relentless nonstopnn campaign. i needed to continue to stand up voices who feel supported in my community and across the state of florida and the united states. host: about intimidation, can you be more specific? guest: almost of organizations like moms for liberty and people who found themselves to be allies. there were multiple protests ts home. they vandalized my property. they created slanderous false websites about me having an they filed a false dcf claim

saying i was abusing my daughter and i had to take an invethey would park in front ofy home durin■gg ho■ meetings to intimidate my husband and daughter. they still follow them around when they are out in public intake videos and photographs of them. host:rnor desantis. he gave his assessment of education at a homeschooling conference. take a listen and then i will >> when you think about education and your kids, as apparent the kids arean an open book. do you want to turn them er tode indoctrination factory that will g -- of course not. you want to be able to have choice to be able to direct the i am somebody that notgovernor e

with the rights of parents to make sure their kids are getting a strong solid education. in the state of florida, whether it is kindergarten or its grade, 12th grade, whether it is in the universities, we don't want any of the i'm sorry. host: what do you think, jennifer? guest: the orw parents choose ps not only in florida but alross . they deserve thatice to be as respected and well-funded as any other choice that parents make. i make the■v argument that i can speak to vouchers different than otherif you truly believe parens have a right to use those to send their children to another school, that is wonderl. then fund it. don't think the fundi a never attending in the first place. host: you can ask a question or

make a comment for our guest jennifer jenkins of 'educated. we stand.' also a school board member. you can call. democrats, (202) 748-8000. . for school board members. if you are a currentrmer member, you can call us at (202) 748-8003. use that line to text us. what you say to parental concerns about certain subjects being too specifically sexual topics? gu i say it's always been their children's education. i can ea county, it's always been transparent.

parents have hadig to see materials and participate in the selection of those curriculum. if you feel like that is not something yowa to or be exposed to, you have every right to opt out of that curriculum. i would like to reflect on the anning challenges we have going on wildly across the state of florida. we have alwa had a lim use form or opt out form. ■1it's as simple as walking up o your teacher, librariafrn, by email just to say i don't want my child he i have asked time an as recently as a month ago we don't have anyone who filled out those forms. ifas moms for liberty i paintin, they would've filled out the forms. host: there's a bbc article from mah with a headline florida settles lawsuit over lgbt can you tell us what was in the

bill and what the lawsuit i will not pretend to be an expe determination was saying that to talk about the don't say gay law and what we dubbed in florida to say that we cannot speak about who peopleov with hs unconstitutional. can no longer be happening in the state of florida. host: let's talk to callers. in pennsylvania, democrat. caller: good morning. i have been involved withnk c-se issue sometime. it's verynt. what do you think about moderate republicans in your group to combat the far right's extreme some republicans might be less partisan at a local level ally? thank you for c-span. guest:i'm so glad you bring tha. i live in an extreme the wright

county, when devoted for donald trump i-17 point. -- by 17 points. justecause idemocrat doesn't m't respect the people who may have a different registration on theitesan organization. i hav'm considering supporting t a registered independents and republicans. i truly mean that. public schools serve all families and they need to be represented on the board. host: linda is nt utah. independent line. caller: good morning.how are y'? host: good. gud morning. caller: i am calling because ine $8,000 to homeschool your kids. -- received $40,000 to homeschool her children.

wi that $40,000 she can send ths and karate lessons. send my kid to a public school. i have to pay for karate, football. to me this seems unfair and more peoplelill to receive the $8,000 per kid to homeschool them. there is no criteria about the education they receive. thank you. host: what do you think, jennifer? guest: i'm not an expert on the voucher syem in utah bontroverse state of florida. i am all for parents getting the and homeschool their students. it needs to be used responsibly, just like any other taxpayer money being sent to a blic school needs to be used responsibly.

we have storie of kids by television or taking the kids on disney trips. th is taxpayer funds that supposed to be for the education of your student. host: dek in lakeland, minnesota. independent. caller: good morning, c-span and america . ■+to c-span, jennifer said she just started this a month ahow f you just started a month ago, how did c-span finthisin less t? jennifer, my question to you is, you defend public government schools. when the rankings have a link on downhill for the last 40 years. husband is an ethe issue with e rank so low? we throw all this money into government schools and give his

failing grades and for going down in our ranking. talk about that. go ahead, jennifer. guest: i personally, very strong defender pc right out of college i started working for brevard public schools and so did my husbi do'g system. i don't think we are perfect does there need to be more money put into certain p students? absolutely. one way we canve more academic d gains in the marginalized communities is what we have people who are on the dais and legislators that focus on making those gains and of wasting funds on things like don't say gay laws. host: youngstown, ohio. republican. caller: yes. ing why did she think conservativism, which is s

a bad thing in schools. when i was going to school we never knew the political persuasions of any of our teachers whatsoever. politics was not talkedwe were o go signs. the■eades. they keep downgrading standards. they can't even read anymore. theye kids to not know anything. they don't teach teach anythingt the constiti■on. moms for liberty isgroup that be constitution and not having the left, which she always leaves part of, the left, taking over their children's -- brainwashing them. at young ages they are

kids to be transgendered, to be socialists, communists. that is all they are learning. doese said they do, like stakeout people. that ismocrat communist thing we got going on in this country. i don't hide that. well, i don't believe conservativism is a negative thing. what i believeíh is the far rigt extremism that is taking over our puorganizations like moms fr liberty candidates they support believe that is the only view that should be embedded in thein the policies of our school districts. that is not correct. it is supposed to be a nonpartisan space welcoming to all families and all children. i have heard from the founders of moms for liberty when they are in the media that the

members were not outside of my home and the stories a made there are plenty of people within my beside me on my lawn. they cannot walk away from thats because of the extremism they were doing to me and my family. it is a reality unfortunately. host: john from grand rapids, michigan. democrat. caller: good rn mimi and jennifer. i have three questions. one, ist passedchildren in public schoo't have cell phones? two, if that is the case, does the state support vouchers for letting people go to religious schools? if that is the case, why are not religious schools included in the cell phone ban? thank you.

guest: the state of florida is tain phone bans. it's not an official bill that passed. it has been a topice of florida. you bring up a good point. used in religious schools in florida. there are many, many, many restrictions placed on public schoolat a n the same institutions. host:■a do you support cell phoe bans in florida public schools? guest: i believe the students need to be paying attention inside the classrooms. i recognize there are so many parents -- we had parkland just a couple of years ago. the majority of the first responders got calls from the students to respond.■q rents aren't comfortable if their students don't have a way to them. there needs to be restrictions. that the

phones are not in their hands, ringing, going off insa rick, rm gainesville, caller: good morning. host: can you go ahead and mute your tv because we can hear in the background? host: much better. caller: like i explained to the settlement, i was -- gentlemen, i'm 73 years old. raised in st. petersburg, florida, at a time when i wasorc school. i have a sister two years younger androi learned from waty brother and his age group, little sister learned from watching me and my is group go through the system. we learned how to write on paper with the bigzeros and your curs.

■l■dwe learned how to say the pe of allegiance every day. we were so proud of america. i am seeingold now i never knew what i'm not sure i do now, other than the first amendment is getting turned upside down starting with kneeling at the footballeing taught pretty much that if you are a white you really were given everything you've got. you did not earn anything. if you are came from slavery. you are due reparations. i apologize. ■oin 1969 when i graduated high school, us on the focal team were brothers. animosities.

itoded into what we have going on today. you. thank you. host: go ahead, jennifer. ■>guest: we absolutely say the pledge of allegi e in schools. we say it at school board meetings. we still teach cursive. that is something people always bring up. i can't disagree. there is an animosity but it's re it is this that by benefiting ot takes away from another. ñawe should be working togethern the community. when you go to schools and see help children interact with one another, that is not happening. that is not a concern to them. these children are judging each other by the color of their skin and feeling white guilt, it is just not

happening. people that if you have these fears -- i'noabsoluta local school. see was happening inside the classrooms and get a real feel of how students are being impacted by the conversations happening outside around them. host:■v■÷ in elgin,■h texas. independent. caller: how are you this wanted to say to all the viclaim -- complain about the school boards. my number one question and i wanted to get your guest's comment, did you vote in your school board elections? for example, here in our city in elgin we have at least eight or 10,000 people registered to vote. 500 peop total for each candthat is for or against the

school board election. the state of texas has most school board elections in may in off-peak times so they are have low voter turnout and makeates they want r elected. just a side■ttexas, it's a consn children are guaranteed a free public education. i hear people complain all the time about their school board. it's like, did you vote? did you take time your representative's and vote accordingly? thank you for your time. i will listen off the year. host: jennifer, whahas there bey about voting foscguest: yeah, en florida it is intentional.

you suppress the voters who will turn out. even in florida now they're trying to make this be partisan so voters don't have to take the time to educate themselves. it disenfranchises the independent voters in the statee voting bloc of the entire state of florida. ate that. it is always best him people are out there getting their voices heard and engaging within their civic seizures. -- civic seizures. -- civicnot anybody but when there are campa on the ballot they identified the party you are registered with. host: caleb is a democrat in north your lin■ -- carolina. caller: i'm a public school ■a i work at a middle school. some of theof, especially c abot

really true. it is pretty much how moool. we are doing the same thing. we are augmenting with new technology because it is sweet. ones, much less laptops and internet connections. i just got done revamping our cu engineering practices in middle school science. a lot of the is just not really there that we see. we come in and work hard to make student has the best opportunity to learn and become if you want to talk about how to make an american, put them

through publichost: jennifer? guest:> thank you for serving our students. i am complety with you on that. our educators used to be so respected within our nation. a job that was paid so little people did it for ns to educate children and to take care of them a■fnd keep them sa. we have taken such a dramatic zshift across this country. thank you for all that you do. i encourage fears, please volunteer at your schools. get inside the classrooms and see what the teachers are alth on a daily basis. host: mike in akron, ohio. caller: good morning and thank you for c-span. i'm a retired schoolteacher myself. i will be 71 in a few way, the s turning 71 this year.

born in 1953 myself. the comment i would like to make involves for one thing people complain about private school ools being close to each other in the same city and the privates will has better test scores they have less inco. there are many inner-city with a mobility rate of over 50%. that means if you have 25 kids in your class in september, by june only 12 or 13 will be the same you had back in september. t[■úrivate school, even in their cities they have 5%. schools. lot more it is tough to get the continuity. there is a catholic school that lebron james went to, st.

they have a great school and high school. i taught eighth grade. one year a few years had problems at the school and they came in to my classroom. i could never send my discipline i went to another catholic school. now let me talk about vouchers. i am ainst vouchers. i think those that for vouchers should do what i do. l'i get my money to my alma mat. i went with all jei went to publ the eighth grade,igh school. i would rather give my money t'a mater. that is why i oppose vouchers. host:t on? guest: again, i can't speak about vouchers across the nation state.e '

speaking of florida, i wholeheartedly agree. the majority of charter schools and private schools -- not all but e funds do not reflect the demographics of th'. they are hel they need to accept every student. that may or may not be happening. there is the ability of access. that may our may not offer busing for certain families and that reduces their access to that curriculum. host: in bowie, maryland. democrat. caller: thank you so much for answering cl.m an african-amer. i'm listening to this conversation and i haven't quite disturbed based on things that are being taught to our children purpose. math, science,ng, language and sex.

i am a person treated good and equal but i feel like every ti i call it the alphabet but lgbtq now, every time theyav iso make it a black issue. they are trying to squash black history. ■7no. we definitely need to have our children addressed in schools. really it is so the alphabet can comment and push their agenda -- me and push their agenda. y children don't need to be taught about sex in schools in any capacitd to be tu treat everybody with respect. all god's creations. you treat everybody with respect. you don't teach them contrary to

what their parents are teaching them. i would say to communities who do not want their children to be taught in thisr, brainwashed if you will in this manner,q< and the informative years of their life that you find some other mechanism of

having your child be educated. the real people at a bthis are t but the pedophiles.

what do you think, jennifer? guest: a couple of thingsthe str two decades, 80% of school board members haven't registered republicans with maj over 85% of the counties holding school board seats. they felthe jority and our florida house, the florida senate and the governor's mansion for over two decades.whh in our schools, the reality is in the state of florida it has beenhe repub issues with what is going on. that's the people we should be again, families have a right to opt out of curriculum and lessons they do with their children having. if you have questions you have a right to ask what they are being taught. we have limited -- abstinence plus state. we have limited sex education and is not happening at younger grades. host: in new jersey,

democrat caller: i'm a retired publix will teacher in the state of new jersey. i think a lot of t controversy about what librarians are that they are inappropriate or whatthere's usually a committeef teachers and librarians they get a chance to study, read the books, decide the s before it is on the list to be purchased. think a lot of the books that are being -- moms for liberty, they deal with historical books. for some reason they are opposed

e. -- to tehem. we need more teachernput. parents, that would be a nightmare. parents is going to be pushing their own little agendas versus just an appropriate book that expands the child's reading vocabulary and comprehension skills. host: guest: we have a limited use form that has always existed for families w what kind of books their children have access to. no one has filled out.erty never said filled it out. nearly half of the almost 1000 book challenges inhe state of photo filed by only two people. if that is notepresented other real concern of the majority of parents, i don't know what is. host: pompano beach,

florida. i'm a retired schoolteacher here ifli taught h grade. academics more. i agree with some of the books i have seen and heard about. be in the public schools at all. i don't think it is appropriate. nts need to be writing. they need to have comprenreadint subjects. i had manys that don't even stand for the pledge of $e■ú■úallegiance. they don't care.

all of a sudden you have a school that is rated the next year they are rated up to a b. they have lowed th examining the students. it is easier for the community tter on paper. the cell phone issue, that's a big one. host:■v@ l responses. guest: yeah. i want to focus on academics. for the past three half years i've been sitting on this dais. every single school were meeting has been taken over by some controversial culture war topic. the reality is people who were focu gains in english and reading and teacher. it is not the school board.

66% of african reckoned students in brevardsor was on the board were already reading one gradevf reading. when organizatio suddenly have s shift that they care about the academic deficit, i argue the three founders set on a school ch. some of the more. they did not come out of nowhere. let's time a book challenges and have conversations about how we can ke gains for every single one of our students. host: i wonder what you think about the national level of how ues you aree do you think these dealing with will be a part of the national year's election. guest: i think it is going to be one of the number one issues in households. ss the united states. we see it from congressional candidates.

we see it from presidential candidates. we have received donations from over 40 states across the nation in just 30 days. that's a testament to the desire of many people to organize and respond agnst theblic education. host: jennifer jenkins, brevard county, florida school board member and founder and chair of 'educated. we stand thank you for joi=ning us today. that will be it for today, juneteenth, for washingtojourna. we are back tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. eastern. have a great■i. day and thanks r watching. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is rnslet and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2024] ♪ >> today, celebration of

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