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Understanding 9/11tv Sens. Graham Blumenthal on Designating Russia as State Sponsor of... CSPAN June 20, 2024 8:03pm-8:28pm EDT
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c-span now, or online at c-span.org. >> c-span is your unfiltered view ofovthese television compa. >> are you thinking this is just is way more than that. >> comcast is partnering■b with student center so that students in low income family -- communities can get the tools they need for everything. >> comcast supports c-span as a front row seat totá democracy. >> coming up, lindseyraham and richard blumenthal introduce legislation designating russia as a state sponsor of terrorism. others on this list at the time
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of the event work cuba, iran, in syria. t 20 minutes. [multiple voices chitchatting] [l■r proud to stand here with my friend and colleague, lindsey graham. i'm tpt say, as the trial lawyer i once, and in some
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ways hope to bagunited states s. exhibit a, i rest my case. two of the most autocratic,■ oc n the world standing, terroris sponsors. ding together, terrorists sponsors. this picture says it all.■n ■g russia deserves to be and in fact, it has deeply earned the designation to be a state sponsor of terrorism. so far as the practical consequences are concerned, yes, sanctions would betrenhened woue practical expenses. in my view, this message to the world is as important in a moral sense as any practicalaí#ñ
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consequence. as any practical consequence. russia deserves to be in this small collective club of ro killers and russia be put out as a states sponsor terrorism. we will pursue thisbipartisan ar supporting. and it is a priority to me, seen in a very personal way what russia has do in we visited the of the mass grave. women shot in the head. we have talked to prosecutors about russia kidnapping children
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and indoctrinating them in russia, taking them away from their loved ones and parents. en firsthand the kind terrorism that russia has committed anand i believe that d states senate has to take a stand. sen. graham: well, the jury calling them guilty, you did a good job. this is a moment in history that will be viewed decades toquenti. what do you have to do to people falling out of left, putn ef■9ined with the bogner group which is the extension of the state, dmb navalny's death was beyond
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every form of opposition has been crushed in russia. they use the benefits of the russian state to support terrorism through tgroup and ot. and now putin has entered into a defense agreement with one of on the planet. we have lost deterrence. the fact that he would be bold enough to do a defense agreement with north korea as senator said, one of the most oppressive regimes on the planet means that we have lost to terrorists. what would it matter? it would be a morale boost to the p■npl even more of a pariah state. if you wanted to do business with russia after we make them a state sponsor of terrorism you do so at your own peril. allow victims of access american courts through
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this designation. two are friends with the administration i've been working with you on saudi and work aboue normalization betweenau arabia and israel. but if you worry about being too provocative about ru stop worrying. stop worrying, you are not too provocative. eed to up our game when it comes to russia. the toolbox that we can russia a state sponsor of terrorism. there are only seven nations that have this designation and it does matter. so i would urgsenate leadership to bring this bill to the floor for a vote. we made cuba a state sponsor of terrorism. s not mean that you cannot engage. syria, koreat they wear a
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and now russia. of all the people i've worked the national security center, bl democrat when it comes to standing up for democracy and to thugs, he is second to none. a pending arrest warrant in russia. i do not know how they missedyor boy. the are not giving up and we will insist on a boat. the best thing we can do i to shape the future is to label putin a■7 leader because he has. this would have enormous benefits in ukraine, i think. i look forward t to have a vote on the bill. sen. blumenthal: i want to just sayóu graham, he has nocompassionate or inspiring ina way that john mccain was consistent and inspiring and i d
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think about a bipartiyb partnership and for everybody in this room, thanks about what russia has done to its if there were no other reasona!n journalists, and journalists worldwide by vladimir putin and the russian sta b. exhibit a is the partnership between kim andp putin, marching literally together. their country signing a military partnership, hostile to the united states,ce, ■fd liberty and justice around the world. you know it is time for the senate to take this. any questions? yes.
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>> so, have you spoken with the biden administration about the e that? bill in the way the this bill? worked thathave y g sen. blumenthal: i have talked about this resolution. they are certainly sympathetic to the goal. we have worked on some specifics and we will continue to work with them, it is time now for us to move forward. have differences of approach or opinion. andect us for what we are trying to do. sen. graham: he has worked with the state department and i've out labeling putin a state-sponsored terrorists. i think we are being rational. n3itbut after theeneement
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between north korea and russia, it is time for us to push back. the moment above all other moments. so i would urge the administration, given what putin go all in in designating his regime for what it■a is, a state sponsr of terrorism. anyone who does a defense agreement with north korea shou>> this might be too ovocative? no. >> questions for both of you.■y will you try to bring this up by unanimous consent if you cannot get the promise of a vote. are you both attending the address next month? sen. blumenthal:and i think we d to seek unanimous consent. but our■ preference would be to move forward in regular order
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and give the senate a chance to vote on it as a whole. my hope is that time would permit it. there is an urgency here that might prompt us to seek unanimous consent. cñ what he said. >> are there specificanctions designation that are not currently in place right now? putin and north korea say that he supports north korea's ability to enhance their own defense capabilities. explicit endorsement of their nar program? sen. blumenthal: i think it is an endorsement of their nuclear program. i will tell you you know, and i do not want to hold up the picture for a third time. this photograph is not outrageous, it is deeplybecausen
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not only against ukraine, but ■■rainsthe united states. i do not even need to go into the kinds -- into the classified briefings we have received to tell you how■m frightening the idea is that russia■■&xpertise to north korea. years opposed north korea adding exactly this kind of capacity, cl because it was so frightened of what this madman might do. so i it as an endorsement. and that is one of the reasons why i think we need to use every tool available. ■n else let me just
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tell you what one practical consequence would be. 's sovereign immunity in our be severely restricted and curtailed as a state sponsor of terrorism and there would be consequences for sanctions enforcement. >>■7 senator graham, a question for you. have youad any conversations with former president trump in i have not.his? i am trying to get it put together. it would ask him. the bottom line to put itó5■simy defense providing nuclear expertise to north korea to increase their nuclear arsenal. now if that does not get you to? creasing the nuclear capability of somebody already
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on the state spons of last should be an automatic and unanimous like the committee to have a fair shot. to me this is one of the our generation oporussia a spate -- a state-sponsored terrorism it would change the momentum in ukraine overnight. morale boost of the ukrainians and it would make it hard to do business with russia. my hope is that e russian@ people one day will be free of putin and his cronies. they are suffering as much as anyone. sen. blumenthal: i have not been in touch with former president trump either. you didn't ask me. >> ukraine and the european allies would not have any queson but when it would be possible to brought onto the floor. you have any ideas of timing.
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also administration remove restrictions of efforts to reach out to the ain would you support their to use american long-range missiles. sen. blumenthal: i will give you my view. wh is i strongly support this on. it has a passion we sought to is no substitute for continuing military support to4;.'artillers very practical. our m during these absolutely critical times for ukraine as it seeks tst a russian counteroffensive and
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prepare for its military actions, hopefully early in 2025. ande should permit, very explit■@ ukraine to attack targ in russian-controlled territori have endorsed for some authority that ukraine needs toussian command centers, supply depots, just as they are attacking infrastructure in ukraine. need to give ukraine that ability for longer-range targets. sen. graham:ng to open up another front. we learn■" tt tico how the russe in his misadventure. you could just and it does not change the behavior.
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until tells us that --intel ths money and ill-gotten gains. en■9 we are going after the sovereign wealth assets of russia to seize them to help - to help the victims of ukraine is having an effect. if we made russia a state sponsor of terrorism itcourts ar anyone to help him. to me this summer and fall should be about more. more military capability and it should also be about more aggressive action towards their economy and the way they do those things. sen. blument■l: one more question. >> when do you think it would be brought on the floor. do you have any ideas of blumenthal: you know, i za■rdous around the unitedare states senate. i'm not going to make a
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prediction■f prior -- predictio. but sooner rather than later. >> a question for you. it is about your position onin e draft. sen. graham: that is nothal: on. >> havu spoken with your colleagues in the house to make sure that it does make it to the president's desk if it passes through the senate. sen. blumenthal: i would be the last p that i have done a scientific pollf the house but i can tell you that there would be very strong bipartisan support. just went on a trip to normandy. profoundlyi lead a delegation o0 senators.and senator graham ande there. i will tell you i was moved by the speeches. i was affected profoundly by
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talking to thethey are 100 yeare those soldiers landed in eight feet of water, and then had to cross three football with no cover when they morotrs- mortors and machine gunwas cour. members of the house who also went to normandy for that tp. if we can summon the courage of that kind of moment for this resolution and as senator graham said so well for unrussia as ity
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now just as hitler's dead, -- s going to go forward. it is no substitute for providing arms or the united states galvanizing w korea, rus, iran. democracy is under assault. and this iser. this is a statement of moral intent. sen. graham: rounding out with just imagine for a moment if you voted against this resolution, if you had a chance to vote look what you would be endorsing. you would be sayin well, that is not enough. ng of a sovereign nation, the mass rape of women, the kidnapping of children,
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providing nuclear capability to north korea for god's sake. the dismemberment of countries in africa. on and on. i know representative mccall is very interested in this. but i wouldany member of the house and senatepass hern all that putin h done, and we have lost deterrence. if this is not enough, i mean as of yesterday. if■+ there wasc) is in terms oft state, he just entered into a defense agreement with north a and pledged to help their nuclear program. if you can forgive all then you will shine in history all the wrong ways. if in time and learn from the mistakes of the hitler as wanting this
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is not that and not with, those decisions did not age well. i am tlingputin get away with tt sadven you■s wilnot age well in history. thank you all. >> c-span's journal," a live forum to discus and public country. friday morning, ashley hayek of america first work talks aboutce conservative agenda. then angela kelly, senior
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