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a lot of$onald people to decide what
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right i have as a woman. wants a late-term abortion. no woman wants and abortion who wants a baby that women to have childbirth is barbarian. it is a slippery slope. women should notver give up control of their bodies to men. forced childbirth today, forced abortion tomorrow. god only knows what else. host: where does this issue rank for you? where does abortion rank for you and how you will vote in november? top five? caer it is the top five.
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i waswent to catholic schools. host: is it first? caller: i heard the pope say who am i to decide. i do not think god children born who are unwanted like it used to be in the 1950's. it was inhumane. women who do not want children i will leave it at that. rule on preserving action on preserving access to the abortion medication pill. supreme court and the supreme court is winding up its ter they have decision days thursday and friday this week. there are several decisions yet to be announced. some key ones are the immunity claim by former president trump in the special into his role on january 6.
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there another case dealing with january 6 defendants. there is a homelessness case and watch our coverage of the supreme co c-span.org, and our free mobile app, c-span now. wanda in california, republican, good morning. tell us yours anniversary of the dobbs decision. caller: at all. i quit doing that longst: what you mean it did not do any good? caller: don't distract me, please. if pregnancy is so dangerous then stop playing russian roulette withex. keep your legs crossed. host:"$ anything else? caller: day, and i will not vote abortion ever again. host: that is wanda in california. spence is in clarksburg, west
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virginia. democratic caller. caller: is always good to see you at the desk. is when is someone going to be arrested for practicing medicine without a license? this is totally a woman's choice and a woman's right. the government has no right. we have health care you have to pay for yourself. it is not a medical thing where the government is involved in paying our bills for medicin do. personally i do not believe in abortions but that is my personal belief. a woman has the right to choose. it is just an egg until it is born. even the bible says until the first breath of life the babya baby. god bless and have a wonderful day. host the supreme court two year ago today ruled abortion
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is not protected by the constitution, sending it back to the states. here is the lay of the land two years later. press. the ortion at all stages of pregnancy with some limitations. the statesn light purple bandit after six to eight weeks. dark purple after 12 weeks. 15 to 22 weeks is the lighter blue. 24 weeks or states on your map plus abortion. that is the lay of the land. two years later after the dobbs decision. whre spoke before the faith and freedom group this past saturday he spoke more about abortion being left to the states after the overturning of roe v. wade. here's a littlehis appearance before the faith and freedom conference. >> a voter has to go with your heart and do what is right. . we have to be able to.
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like ronald reagan i believe in exceptions for theer rape, and incest. some people do. some people don't. you have to go with your heart. you also have to get elected. i want to thank the six supreme thomas, samuel alito, neil gorsuch brett kavanaugh, and amy coney barrett for this long term, contentious issue. this has been a long time it has been fought. getting it back to the states puts the question where it belongs with the vote people and over time it will all work out. it is working out right now. it will all work out and it is what everybodyars. it has taken -- they say 49 but it has probably been 51 years it has taken to get this done. in the republican pa we will always support families and babies and life, very important to the rublican party.
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host: the former president had to say about this being a state issue? so, we want to hear from you. if not, we also want to hear from you. there are the lines on your screen. getting your thoughts on the two year in a bursary of the dobbs decision overturni wade. ralph reed, the e f the faith and freedom coalition is quoted in a cnn piece saying he president and does not believe his position is at odds with the faith voters. "the president's position reflects the short-term political reality for both sides. neither side has the vote to pass federal legislation tt ects their values and aspirations. the long-term political reality is whoever wins the battle at the state level will build the momentum and gain the votes to achieve what they want at the federal level." you want a band at the federal level or not? do you want abortion rights
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enshrined at the federalthat is our conversation this ing in the first hour. jody in tennessee, independent. caller: i am jody, good morning. i just want to remind you all that the democrats and the are complicit in this mess. this has been my number one issue for the last 30 years and the democrats have done. we had a super majority in the senate under obama and we had the house under obama and we had obama and he felt it more prudent to bailout banks that it was to protect women. this is just a wedge issue to drive us apart and raise money while we suffer. all suffering from georgia to alabama to tennessee. the only places we can afford to live. the democrats do not care. the republicans do notare, they just want our money. we need a third they don't care.
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host: it sounds like the economy is your number one issue and the economy is the number one issue for the world for all time. abortion is the only political thing they can get right because they are not going to topple capitalism. host: jody in tennessee. peggy is a dper marlboro maryland. caller: i tover. i would not have an abortion. ldwill destroy our worldike this big liar is trying to do. that is my take on it. host: perry, south dakota republican. what is your take. caller: thank you for taking my call. rrific job in the media. that first. i would also like toin
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a great majority of cases, i believe abortion is a convenience. i think is a morality issue for men and women. why would a man want to create something unique. the baby is totally dna. you can recognize thataby any place around the world to be that baby. then we abort it. it is a morality issue and a convenience issue in most cases. if you took the percentages down i believe that is the issue you would come upith, especially in many of the big cities. issue. i blame the man as much as the woman for getting pregnant. everybody knows that. let's stop the abortion thing if we can. it is a morality issue in this whole world. host: the associated press notes in the list of decisions left
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for the supreme court in i term is the emergency abortion decision. there is a second abortion case this year, that medical procedure in emergencies. after the court overturned roe v. wade. in a case out of iowa the biden administration says abortions must be allowed in emergencies were woman's health is at serious risk. the stateues it stripped abortion ban does not allow abortions to save a woman's life and does not need to expand exceptions for health risks. the supreme court overturned roe v. wade in as we told y, they're are now 14 republican-controlled states that have an all-outabortion with some limited exceptions. then it goes from six to 12 weeks in other states and beyond in other states as well. brooklyn, democratic caller. hello, kenneth.
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caller: good morning. i am a current list of your program and i appreciate you very much. i would like to s i think men sing to do with the decision a woman makes with her body. an abortion is about the woman. father, he might be a husband. when that woman or that man decide to make that decision is based on the health of the woman and the unborn child. that is my comment. host: is this an isfo you that will help decide your vote in november? caller: this has nothing to do with my vote. my vote is straight up democrat. democrat. democrat is the only party i see with any form of morals. you arehe kind of lies coming from the democrats like the republicans.
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all of them are bending the knees to the lies from donald trump. that is very disturbing. host: independent. let's hear from you. caller: from my opinion, women should be able to do whatever they choose the tout law abortion it -- whatever they choose. to outlaw abortion is to outlaw woman's rights with their body. the supreme court needs to be ashamed of themselves to have a decision like abortion or like our president being allowed -- host: a reminder to me that television. june 24, 2022 i decision that overturned roe v. wade does not protect abortion rights.
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the democrats earlier this month before a senate hearing on productive rights, several democratic senatorsddressed the anniversary of the dobbs decision including washington state decrmurray. >> tod we will hold a help committee hearing onnghe dobbs decision, with republica cheered and the cruel republican abortion bands that have now been state after state over the past two years. as we will hear, the chaos, the fear heartbreak caused by extreme republican abortion bands has only grown with each passing day and we would like to say to any republican still in denial, this issue is not going away. it is e being settled. women will not forget about ththrough and will not accept a status quo where politicians control their most personal medicalecisions. we have seen that several times already. every time abortion rights have
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been on the ballot over the past two have won. that message is clear and unambiguous it will make sure republicans do not ignore it. ilisten to the testimonies of our witnesses. i hope they will take to heart the stories of women and providers whose lives have been turned upside down and your revocable he harmed by the abortion bands they championed and cleared the way for. senate democrats will keep lifting up the voices ofare bravely sharing their stories, will keep shining a spotlight on lives that have been wrecked by cruel republican abortion bands and democrats will not rest until we restore abortion rights for all americans bypassing the women health protection act. democratic senator patty rights for abortion. you ag we are getting your thoughts on the anniversary of the dobbs
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decision overturning roe v. wade. on facebook.com/c-span is where you can join this conversation. you can also join us in a text at202) 748-8003. include your first name were city andon x with the handle @cspanwjék. on facebook, no politician should be in my doctor's office. persoa step 'thnd bombings and third term abortions. all of that governor northam told us about. those are we are taking your phone calls as well this morning. there are the lines on your screen. joe, republican. caller: good morning. i did not know what the subject was going to be. the sure that i was going to use up my 30 day on abortion, which is my
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number one voting issue is abortion. i am going to go a little bit differently because the abortion issue is usually talk about. the guy on the first call said the slogan they use is ibody and it is her right. i want to address that. during the pandemic we heard this follow the science. this might not seem relevant but if you let me get through it quickly. in world war ii there was a doctor, his paradox was when he was a doctor the horrific things that happened in war, one of the things he tried to was reattach or have skin grafts and he wondetaking. eventually got to the idea where you could figure out how to get by some of the things the body does to it when it has a foreign
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body attached, like if you have a virus or something, how your body protects itself. his coes asked him how does a by in t mother's womb not besystem? that makes sense. i cannot get into the details of the biology down to the details but basically if you want to call it god or nature has providedthe body recognizes this as a foreign it sends protection for that foreign body like no body that ever invades. if you get ave to take a lot of pills. host: bring this back. what does that mean for you? caller: and i say this? this slogan that it is my body and my choice, that is not true. it is not your it is an independent body. i will dedicate with that.
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what was the question? host: you answered it. you made your point. let's go to janet in ohio, democratic caller. good morning to you. caller: a woman carries a child for nine a man can get four or five women nant and it is time we go after the men to have the sect have four -- to have vasectomies if they have four or five children. a woman can only have one. to her that she cannot carry that wrong, she should have her right to go to a doctor or a hospital and get the
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help she needs. host: janet's thoughts inwe heard from democratic senator patty murray. other side of the aisle john cornyn republican senator from texas was on the senate floor and he spoke about the anniversary of the dobbs decision. >> i want to commend my friends and from mississippi oklahoma for their leadership in protecting the lives of the unborn and to thank tm for bringing us together into this fight for life. two years have passed since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade, a controversial decision basis in the text or history of the constitution, a right that was simply made up by the nine members of the supreme court. what they have done is return the power where it states to protect unborn i daresay the rule
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in mahu b than texas and you may find diwn. make no mistake about it. are here to stand with the unborn who have rights of their own. america cannot be at its devalue the lives of the most vulnerable among us. they deserve protection under theaw too. that is what we are fighting to deliver. those on the other site of the aisle want abortion on demand. up to the limit -- withoutnd including the point of a live birth. that is a position overwhelmingly disapproved of by the vast majority of the american people. ion of independence guarantees the right to up that includes the american. i am proud right and proud to stay with my colleagues today as we fight to safeguard that
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right to the best of our ability. host: senator john cornyn on the floor of the senate. texas republican talking about this issue of abortion. two years after the supreme court ruled in the dobbs decision overturning roe v. wade. president biden sent out on x. if cses a ban on a woman's right to choose, i will veto it. donna in florida. independent. what do you say? i get a kick out of these guye right for life. do they stop for one second to consider what these lives might be like? are they condemning these children to lives of poverty? to lives with people who never wanted them to begin with? when will we approach this from a realistic pere.
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everybody knows donald trump is no angel. i had a business in manhattan many years ago when he was a big star. his moral character -- there's a special place in hell for people like him host: we will go to jason in republican. caller: dwisenator, that democrat senator. states. the politicians need to stay out of it. the need to put it on the ballot in all 50 states and let the american people vote on it. if it passes great. if it fails great. if it passes there ought to be stipulations incest, able
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to filew8 charges, whether it is a family member. ifabortion let them have at. as far as it nfor the federal government to stick their nose in, they need to keep out of it. it needs to stay with the state and with the american people vote on it. let it stand where it is. quit talking about jason. the issue is on the ballot again in november. from abc news, "abortion rights battle measures leading in the polls. since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade votersizion lights -- abortion rights into the state constituthis year abortion is on the ballot again in four states and early polling indicates strong support for these measures in red, blue, and purple states alike. in florida voters will whether to adopt amendment four,
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which would establish a constitutionalon up to fetal liability overturning the state's current ban. support for amendment four runs in each fall asked about the proposal. florida requires 60% of voters to approve a ballot measure, not just a simple majority. passing is far from assured. in the sun belt state of nevada an arizona, proposals to protect abortion are still in the process of making the ballot. abortion is legal in nevada up to the 20 week of when fetal viability is considered to begin. the proposal would enshrine the right to an abortion up to fetal viability in the state's constitution, making it harder for future lawmakers to appeal. say they have gathered enough signatures for the measure but its place on the ballot will not be confirmed until after june 26. the states signature filing deadline. that iyspollsters have surveyed voters about arizona's voting rights
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initiative which would amend the state's constitution from state interference prior to field viability- prior to fetal viability. 58% of voters said they would suppt such an amendment while 30% said they would oppose it and 13% were undecided. measures to protect abortion rights are also confirmed to appear on the ballot and south dakota colorado, and maryland. matt in missouri, democratic caller. caller: thanks for taking my call. i would attack on to what joe say. he said it was a separate person it is a separate person. i willperson is fully dconception, writing poetry and curing cancer, that does not matter. no one has the right to use anyone else's body without their permission. a lot of people will say.i sixes consent for pregnancy, it is
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not. f+v consent for sex alone, not consent to become pregnant. we do not have consent over our biology and we do not make the choice to becoit is akin to leaving your house unlocked and you become the victor in of a home invasion -- yo consequence of having your house unlocked. did you have consent for your house invasion? of course do not provide consent for pregnancy. diane is an independent in ouhello. caller: hello. i disagree with all of this. i was made to have one when i was younger because we hadwo that were older and my spouse at that time did not little ones. he regretted it everi have hated myself for that. i li you, i think we ought to vote the bible and we
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are killing the lords children. i think womento be a lot more responsible. i have hated myself because i was noi think people need to think that child and that womb belongs to thewe do not have the right to do those things. responsibility is what they need to have. either that or do not have sex. thank you. host: john inrepublican. caller: thanks for taking my call. i am not against abortion but i think we already determine if you're a drunk driver and you hit a woman who is pregnant and you kill her unborn child could be charged with murder. at some point we have already
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decided what time frame that is ayou cannot be charged for murder for killing a noni am just saying i think we have already come up with a time of viability that you should use. caller: it sounds like you would agree to abortion rights up to a certain point exceptions after that point? if t risk? caller: iake exceptions after that point. i do think we have already determined whether it is a life or not by the laws of sending people to jail. host: you agree with the presumptive republican nominee donaldthis is a state issue now? caller: i do agree it is host: dennis in laurel,independent. caller: good morning. caller: this subjectsay the
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father wants to have the child but the mother does not and all i am hearing is it is women's what about the father? if the mother has the child come isn't he responsible to provide and can they have a system where he has to pay child support? i am hearing this stuff about women's bodies, women's choice. what a father, what if the father wants the child. d a guy say if you leave your door unlocked -- if you ve there is the opportunity you will have a baby. that is just what itmy faith is we have to protect the child. yo the child. if the woman is going to die or something is going to happen to her by having the child, then we have to look at that.
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white as they want it to be. right now i hear the republicans, i hear democrats. you know politicians. l game. they want to divide us. that irehost: let's listen to hill on this jobs decision. two years ago today. here is tina smith from minnesota on the dobbs decision. >> today one in three women of childbearing age live in states with the trump republican abortion ban and every day we are confronted with the great consequences this has, that overturning roe has had for americans. will be hearing about the stories today these are stories of women in situations timagined they would have to face. women trying to get reproductive health care and being turned away, sometimes until their condition is life-threatening.
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doctors trying to provide the healnow is best for their patients but they cannot for fear of prosecution. the reality is the dobbs decision has thrown wo chaos and we need to remember this chaos did not just it happened because trump and his republican party not trust women. they believe that politicians and judges should have the power to make decision for women whose lives and stories they will never know. trump and republicans in the senate and the judges they in roe and they're responsible for the cruelty and the chaos that hathey are responsible for the fact that on age cannot make their own personal health care decisions. when i worked at planned parenthood i realized -- i saw every single day women walk through the doors of our clinic for an unplanned pregnancy, for access to contraceptives. whatever reason they walked through the door it was nonpolitical. american women do not want any of us making decisions for the about their bodies in their lives and their families. host: tina smith, the democratic
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senator from minnesota. now let's go to the other side again. here is mike lee, republican senator of utah giving his assessment on what has happened at level since the dobbs decision. >> t dobbs decision did not criminalize abortion. the docio anything to reflect the legal status of abortion other k to the states. n an issue that was before the states prior to roe v. wade. the supreme courtnd dobbs undid roe and said this is a decision most of the time. unless we are dealing with something at the district of columbia or a militarying government funds is not only going toe states have been more or less out of this arena for about 50
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years. most abortions occurring in americarestricted in light of roe v. wade and its progeny. states are getting back to that business now after iusurped by a judicial oligarchy for nearly half a century. states will handle this diff states handle many things differently. anything from occupational licensing to what procedures might be performed. criminal laws of one state differ from those of another. the by men and women elected by the citizens of those states. those laws can have unforeseen consequences, sometimes tragic ones. the laws can be changed from time to time. it is important to focus on what this is abou and what it is not. it is something that is in the hands of the american this is part of what having a vernment means. host: senator mike lee republican of utah talking about the dobbs decision.
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we are asking all of you to give us your take on this interest rate of the overturning of roe wade. william, democratic caller. caller: is if life starts aton think the government should step in and give all benefits aab child or to a fetus. it seems w distinguish -- we benefit li not give the mothers the things they need to raise the child or have this child and only after the child isbenefits. fits or tax breaks, that is a lot. it is pro-choice, not pro-abortion. people should consider toptions. women should have the ability to cont it should not be the government
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that makes that decision. lastly if we are talking about ways to prevent unwanted for men having vasectomies at a certain age that can be reversed. that is the least restrictive way. people were going to have unprotected sex, they could be careful. #ehost: james republican. caller: i have a different callers. i do concede the validity of the different types. ct each other's choices. when it comes to protecting the safety, that should be a concern for the people. the thing that comes tos mind is i am not hearing from many of those callers about the issue of overpopulation and how we have to manage that.
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i am concerned about the safety of the people and the what is the message we are passing to all the people? if/c we are telling ourselves we the people, who is we the people? that s us, not just a certain select you and tell you what to do. to some extent i understand that. we have to have ace. we obviously do not have that balance and that is why there is an issue. the democrats not reaching across the aisle and i worked to hear that. webject matter instead of an opportunity for people working the issue is together. republicans, democrats whatever. host: i will move on to ben in florida, independent. caller: this issue is multifaceted and will never be solved with the rhetoric which
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goes on now which is political. there are a number of important the first is financial. this is why want the federal government out. nobody should have their tax dollars allocated for a process that kills anything. if you choose not to it should not if you choose to, go ahead and fund it, funded individually. not the federal government. nuwosince this is about comprom about -- a very formed body that feels pain, somewhere in between there is a legitimate compromise to help women who
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have medical pem through this and get through it well. host: one last call. gary and north carolina. moic caller. caller: i have two issues. i will educate people thatt know, they do not hear, they keep things in a late term abortion they use a device that looks like a dogcatcher might use. imagine that in miniature. it is a grater. what they do is they go in and they break up the baby into manageable pieces and then they vacuum it out. [crying] it is a horrible thing and you have to know what really happens in an abortion. they keep that from the public. i hope this helps some people make tir decision.
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olympic games. he believes that there is not enough oversighti-doping measures. he wants to seeresponse from the olympic organizers and some of the olympic officials from the world anti-doping organization. and he will making his case on capitol hill. on tuesday. we will have coverage of that. the former olympic champion swimmer, michael phillipsschmidt watch hearing live at 7:00 two c-span now, our free mobile video9,that is one of the more notable moments from capitol hill week. but, they have some legislative work to do. they have talked about getting their spending bills in order september. have they made progress and what is their goal? >> goal is to get
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their appropriation bills, all of them wrapped up by their new deadline, which is the end of september. and that is a very, very tall task. number one, they almost never reach thatdline, because of differences overspending between parties, different prioritiesthe fact that there is an election and so election politics has been dominating and coloring everything that is happening on capitol hill. they are pushing forward, at least the house of representatives is, with trying to pass aber of those appropriation bills through thn a good negotiating position. i think most people who would bet money this summer would say that thi g into after the election, with probably a cr, a continuing resolution that would be a funding bill to fund the government that would push us
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into after the election, likely in december. host: outside of that legislative goal, areet items or debates like we have seen in recent months that will come to the floor this summer before the november election? guest: so much of what we seen come to the floor our messaging bills. the singeing bills are things like -- messaging bills are things like immigration. we have seen a messaging bills from senate democrats come up, trying to put republicans in a tight position on the i abortion and protecting women's reproductive rights. expect to see more messaging bills, because democrats and republicans got some of those done last year, with the debt ceiling and with government funding earlier this year, we areose big ticket items being a problem months of the election. host: let'ta races that are making
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national news, because of who they have supported in the past and now who's endorsing them. this time around've seen splits, the republican party splits and within the democratic party in some othese primary races. starting with the virginia race congressman bob good, the incumbent, trying to get another term. tell us the back story and where this race stands today. guest: well, the race stands still too close to call. this is a primary race in virginia, just outside of charlottesville, that features bob good, the freedom caucus chairman who is challenged by john maguire, somebody who was endorsed by president. somebody who has really movement in the -- and the maga movement in the rethey are separated 300 or so
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votes. still too close to call. they are counting some provisional ballots. but, you know, r now mr. good is who has been backed by donald trump. so, the big question at this point is will there be some kind of recount election? theres for a recount election. for a recount in that election. we will know in the next days or even weeks whether that process moves forward, given that it is a super close election. iton. host: a reminder to one of our viewers that bob good was one of the eight who votoust kevin mccarthy from his speaker role. gaetz, who w against former president trump and endorsed bob good. >> it has split the mega
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movement. the republican party, on behalf of bob good's challenger. this is an issue t, you know where we haves allies really split on this represent this virginia congressional stand it has been a fascinating race to watch and one of the real marquee matchups of this primary cycle. host: we will talk about more of these races that are splitting the parties here in our half an ho of nbc news. we want you to join in here's how you can do so. republican. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. text us and include your first name, city and stay at (202) 748-8003. -- state at (202) 748-8003.
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another race that has garnerenational media attention is new york's democratic representative, jamaal bowman. 's going on with this race? what does democratic party? guest: here, progressive two term lawmaker, a former middle school teacher from the bronx. one of the stars of progressive movement, who unseated eliot engel longtime congressman from new york, two cycles ago. he's being challenged by george latimer. that's the westchester county executive. a longtime democrat inhe county politics. 30 plus years in local politics. somebody very well known to that district. somebody who is pro israel, jamaal bowman has been criticalof israel and netanyahu and the war that is being carried out against hamas in gaza and other so this is really -- has highlighted this huge democratic in george latimer's case
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and criticism of israel in jamaal bowman's case. this has been an is roiled the democratic party throughout the 2024 cycle, ever since the october 7 terrorist attack on israel. aipac spent a record closemillion in a single house primary race. an u number of spending, trying to jamaal bowman from the seat. and again, george latimer elected in this primary. a democratic district. whoever wins this primary tomorr be the congressman from new york in this particular congressional district. host: ayou this morning. we can talk about the november ections in the house and senate races that you are keeping an eye on with sco wong. we are also talking about the legislative agenda as congress returns this week. scott wong, we talked about the house. what about the senate? i'm not quite sure what's
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happening with the senate this week. we saw a number of messaging bills that chuck forward on things like roe v. wade. i will say that on this second anniversary of the dobb's decision, we are seeing a coordinated effort from democrats to get the message out about what dobbs has meant to the country, to mean going forward for the country. the first lady was out in pennsylvania over the events, highlighting the need women and reproductive rights. kamala harris will be at the university of today and then fly directly to arizona later today, doing a number of reproductive events. you saw what the president had to say, today and he's out with message. the campaign arm for house democrats will have mobile towards, targeting vulnerable
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republicans in places like california and new york. highlighting their support for the dobbs decision. so, you will see a concerted, very coordinated eff among top democrats hindonald trump support -- trumps support for the dobbs decision. you heard what the former president had to say praising certain members of the conservative supreme court for making that ruling. a highly unusual thing foro, to personally invidu court members. but this has been an unusual former president. we mentioned matt gaetz and his support for bob good. he was featured in the national newspaper today. one of the national newspapers today, for traveling around the country support different candidates and at the same here's nbc investigating matt gaetz over alleged drug use and sexual
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misconduct. this is something kevin mccarthy pushed before he left as reven -- guest: this has been a long-standing case against matt gaetz. it was investigated by -- has been investigated or initiated i the house ethicsee a number of years ago, when democrats were in control of now, republicans are in control. that is significant, given that they have opted to continue this investigation potential sexual misconduct and illicit drug, as they have laid out. this has also been an issue that was looked at by the department of justicef@ which last year, i believe at the beginning of last year, announced they would not move forward wcharges of mr. gaetz. that was significant. but again, house ethics has operated completely separate from doj. they have decided that they have seen enough evidence that warrants that moving forward.
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they have interviewed enough witnesses -- a number of witnesses in this investigation and they believe there is enough there to keep this investiopen as house ethics is concerned. host: what would you like to see on the legislative agenda?republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000independents, (202) 748-8002.texas as well, including your first name and city and state at (202) 748-8003of respective conventions going to have this year. both parties have platforms that are screaming out for legislation. guest: that's a good point. i think we will see some coordination between the conventions and the run-up to those conventions on the house and senate floor. certainly, as i mentioned before that during an election year, things tend lee -- legislativelysenate
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democrats who are in control on that side of the chamber of the u.s. capitol and house republicans who are in control of have this opportunity to put forward messaging bills that they think wille with voters that will help them really turneir side of the and so, expect to see a number of messaging bills on both sides in the run-up to these conventions. they really want to -- in this election, there is an effort you can see certainly from donald trump'spaign, an effort to drive out -- there is not a lot of targeting of the middle. donald trump has been pretty clear in trying to -- she wants a big showing among conservatives, among his base and has been throwing red meat to the conservative base. you are seeing that with his to
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conservative evangelicals, saying look what i did on roe v. wade. i managed to overturn this law with the help of the supreme court justices that iointed and i'm going to personally thank some of those supreme court justices in this speech. host: later in july republicanswill gather in milwaukee for their convention and then democrats will be in chicago in august. that --s1 also during the november elections,ess will hear from benjamin netanyahu. why is he giving these remarks to both chambers of congress? guest: this obviously comes at a time when congress has been wrestling with this issue of the war in gaza, carried out by israel in a response toist attacks on october 7. this has been precipitated by speaker mike johnson, who has
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extended this invitation to netanyahu. ats, including the senate democratic leader, chuck schumer, who happens to be jewish, and the highestking jewish member of congress in reluctant tojohnson in hearing at such a volatile time, it has torn apart congress and washington at large. this was not part of an official visit. there was nothing lined up for president biden to welcome netanyahu to the white house. usually, these types of visits are officially white house and that was not the case in this particular case. thispeaker johnson trying to put democrats in a tough position. in the end after weeks and weeks of negotiation, chuck
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schumer decided the senate wouldparticipate and signed netanyahu, whose facing his own internal struggles in his own government with the resignation of certain members of his cabinet. it comes at time in his country and his government ana time in the united states government as they deal withted to israel. host:me minister accusing the biden administration of selling weapons and military aid. also, as israel ratchets up tensions between in lebanon. host: that was strongly -- guest: was strongly denied by the state department and the biden adminiwas any sort of delay or deliberate stalling of weapons being sael.
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you recall that t mbipartisan spending package supplemental spending package included significant aid for israel, as well as and taiwan earlier this year. congress did pass that. but, you can imagine why attension that this visit is gation on capitol hill, in the white , with the biden administration. it will be interesting to see whether any sort of meetings either at the highest level with or some lower-level meetings, perhaps with the secretary of state, occur during netanyahu's visit to washington. ob host: will democratic members of congress boycott his address? guest: number of democrat memory's have said yes, they will boycott tdr called the war in gaza -- they have called it war crimes. have said that netanyahu should be imprisoned.
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they have called some of the airstrikes that have killed civilians a genocide. and so, this has tough issue, as i have said, for many members of congress. be, definitely, some folks sitting this one out out of protest a number of members -- i spoke wit cori bush of missouri who said she will not be attending. bernie sanders i believe will not be attending on the senate side. there probably will be many more who will- house members boycotting the address then u.s. se number will be sick and. host: the house returns this week. they are in session, wednesday thursday and friday. you can watch coverage of the senate on c-span two. scot wong, we appreciate the conversation with you this
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independents, (202) 748-8002. you can go to facebook.com/c x, include the handle at c-span text to the first name, -- including your first name, city and state to (202) 748-8003. if you missed it, former president trump was at the state eeence in washington d.c. over the weekend. cnn notes he attend annual road to the majority conference hosted by the faith and freedom coalition. voice. trump has addressed the conference nine times over the years. he tried to distance himself from the antiabortion positions of christian groups like faith freedom. here's what the former president had to say about the dobbs decision, taking credit for overturning roe v. wade. >> in my next term, i will once again appoint a rocksolid conservative. judges and three supreme court justices to
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interpret the law and the constitution as written. it was being interpreted slightly different from that as you probably know. in my first four years, weúm? transformed the federal bench. putting in all of these judges and nobodyeen anything like it. a record, pro-constitution judges. they with -- i withstood vicious attacks to pick and confirm three supreme court justices, neil gorsuch, brett kavanaugh and amy coney barrett. good people too. i took a lot of heat. i took a lot of heat. a lot of hits. but we did the right thing. thanksese justices, we have also achieved what the pro-life movementr 45 years. and we have gotten abortion out government and back to the stateseverybody and all legal scholars always said it should be. roe v. wade was federal and
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they wanted it back in the states where the people could vote and make their decisions. it's up to the will of the people in each state. some statesconservative. other states will be more liberal. it's happening now. s the way every legal scholar and all the democrats and all the republicans and conservatives and liberals, they all wanted it that way. we did something that was amazing. the big problem was it was caught up in the federal government. the people will that's the weight should be. host: the former president on saturday at the freedom coalition's hisdeu n promised to work side-by-side with a group promising to eradicate abortion and this saturday, he will deliver the keynote address to follow extremists committed to banning abortion nationwyour thoughts on the two year anniversary of the dobbs decision? now, this is likely to be part of thursday's debate. 8:00 0ow debate on c-span two that evening. at 9:0the 20at 0 p.m.ebatepaign
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the simulcast of it, thursday, live on c-span two. now, this morning, we are getting your thoughts on the two year anniversary of the dobbs decision. let's he from marietta, georgia, independe there. help me with your name. good morning to you, what are your thoughts? caller: my thoughts are we hear about women having control of their bodies. but it seems like we only care about women being in control of their body when it comes specifically to abortions. you know what else? i can't sell my own kidney. it's my kidney, it has my dna. it's against the law for me to do that. another thing that it is again do with my body is i want to sell my body for sex, in most states that's agaith suicide that's against the law. and this is with my body, not
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something within my body. so no, that's not going to figure into my decision. wv be tax reparations and illegal immigration. those other things that are going to figure it, and the economy. those will figure into my decision. host: thank you for the spots. we will goo fredericksburg, virginia. democratic caller, good morning. caller:thank you for taking my call. i am a democrat. i -- i believe that god is a profession compassionate god and h from the heart. a lot of people that commit
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abortions, the a sometimes rape and i don't think a woman is a criminal for bringing child into the world that would remind her of that. they believe in their heart it's the right thing to do. i have some concern trade i don't judge people -- concern. i don't judge people. i don't think it's in line with christian i don't think we should be judging people. yb has a right. when god judges, he judges from the heart. to make those kinds of decisions aboutwrong because they do this? what happened to the woman who committed adultery and was supposed to be stoned to death?
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whoever has not sinned shall cast the first stone. don't just think people commit abortion and we should take all rights from them. host: said, do you think this is a state issue and should be regular to buy states so that each state decides or should this be a federal issue? caller: i think it is a federal issue. and i think it should be with a compassionate heart. because [indiscernible] i think it should be a federal issue. we should not leave it to the states to make that kind of decision and have people running from one state to another trying to have an abortion. let god judges. host: w that point -- caller: let god judge us.
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host: that point. 14 states controlled by republicans now have an outright on abortion with some limited exceptio a number of states that have -limit abortion to the first six weeks. there is three of them. and then there are statesit states have abortion weeks. there is the map on your screen. let's leave that up while we hear from karen in chico california, and independent. karen? caller: thank you so much for taking my call. there are a couple of points that i would like to make. first of a, as a christian, i believe that we do not create life. it's god who creates the lif are pro-creators. and in the bible that thou shalt not kill. and i marched in washington in the late 1980's against abortion in the snow. so, this is a topic near and
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dear to my heathe last comme make, i believe that the women who are arguing for an abortionin drive is being allowed to be promiscuous without the confines of taking care of a that has come to be born from them. and not ionship, in a marriage relationship does not allow for that family unit to thrive. so that's pretty much -- i've t that thought out. host: tell us this. do you be a federal ban onsident that it is up to the states and that's where it should be decided? caller: wrong is wrong and right is right. i think as a country, we would really flourish more if we respected life that given us. and that's all i have to say. host: you didn't answer the
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question. caller: federal. because i believe that we stand one nation, under god. host: are youident has said? caller: i don't agree with most of everything that the former president has said. host: who will you vote for in november? caller: i'm not actually going to vote for either, because biden endorsesn and trump he spea that i agree with with trump at all. host: who did you vote for in 2020? caller: again, it was biden and trump.mz and i didn't vote for either of them. host: 2016, who did you vote for? caller: vote for trump, because i thought that he was a different than he turned out to be. ews with him. he seemed really sincere that he wanted to make a difference in th because we were
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really laden down with the politics that was going on and it did not seem to be going anywhere. it looks like he was going to push things through. but, he rn a terrible person in my opinion. host: karen in chico, california. the former president, he talked more about why he thinks now that this should be left up to the states. here's what he had to say. >> every voter has to go with your what's right. we also have to get elected. you have to be ab to win. like ronald reagan, i believe in exceptions for the of a mother in rape and incest.some people don't. you have to go with your heart. but you have to get elected i want to thank the six supreme court justices, clarence thomas, samuel alito roberts, brett kavanaugh, neil gorsuch and amy coney barrett for the wisdom and they showed on 's been a long time
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that this has been fought. getting it back to the states puts the question where it over time, it will all work out. it's working out right now. itl going to work out. it's what everybody -- where everybody wanted to be, including the legal scholars. probably 51 years, it's taken to get this done. ab all in the republican party, we will alwa support life. very imphost: former president trump on saturday at the faith and freedom conference saying that abortion is now where everybody wanted it to be. do you agree or disagree with him there? the head of the faith and freedom conference said what the president faith voters. from cnn's recording, the president's position reflects the short-term political realities for both sides. neither side has federal legislationt reflect their
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values and aspirations. he added the long-term political reality is battle at the state level will build the momentum and gain the votes to achieve what they want at the federal level. enator elizabeth warren joined abc this week, arguing that extremist republicans are going to attack abortion contraception and ivf across the unites states. here's what she had to say. >> we need three things. we need access to abortion. we need access to contraception and we need access to ivm. the republicans have blocked all three and have laid out their plans to say they won't permit women to have those three and access to them. the democrats are fully on board. if we have thefecta, the house, the senate and the white house, we have -- we will make roe v. wade the law of the land again. and with joe biden apresidency, we
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will have as much for women as humanly possible. i want to say if donald trump is elected to the presidency, he and the extremist republicans are coming after abortion, contraception and ivf in every single state in this country. not just the purple states, every state in this country. they laid out their blueprint and they are coming for ev elizabeth warren on abc's yesterday. your turn to give us your reaction to the two-year anniversary of the dobbs decision. mark in philadelphia, democratic caller. what are your thoughts? ca good morning, greta. i think elizabethfirst, trump started out and he wanted a nationwide ban on abortion after six weeks. then, when ron desantis, the governor of florida challenged him for the nomination, he could
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not have the same position as ron desantis. so hnt a nationwide ban on abortion after 16 weeks. and now, when he saw nikki haley gaining tractionfemale republican voters now, all of a sudden, his position is leave it to the states. if trump's lips are moving, he's lying. he's lying now. if a republican congress passes him a bill abortion after six weeks, he will sign it anybody who does not believe that is out of their minds. the maintrump and do not trust the maga republicans. thank you. host: mark patricia in raleigh north carolina, republican. good morning. ca about trump, who do you trust today? because the democrats are not much better.
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we should have learned after all of these years that you do not kill five dozen babies a day. and that's what it's turned into. how can be trusted that says yes, abortion is good? host: do you think that -- should be a federal ban on abortion? or are you ok with what wer president that it is now a state issue? caller: i think it's a state issue, yes. but i alsosue that has to be learned from. we cannot have 5000 babies a day being murdered. gol from a registered doctor. but you don't go ahead and get pregnant and go about having sexualations without any responsibilities. >> ok. patricia spots. host: david in milwaukee
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wisconsin, independent. hi, david. caller: hi, how are you? ho good morning. caller: first off, everybody has a right to their opinion and their beliefs in america. lnow, the abortion issue as a smokescreen to a real issue of what happens afterwards . they told us two years ago that we don't ha to raise the kid the federal government will take control of these unwanted kids. it sounds like a projectgerican pre-that's all i have to say. thank you very much. -- american. that's all i have to say, thank you very much. host: ray is this a federal issue? and if so, what federal government decide? caller: i have two or three points to make and a prediction. i want to go back to, who
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said god was in charge of everything. if god is so much i charge, what happens after the babies born like in a country in the middle of africa whose covered with flies and starving, where is god at? karen, come back on and tell me where god is when that happens. second, trump is lying, he always lies. he said s -- you played. you have to go by what your heartays but you have to get elected. to get elected, you have to live. -- lie. if he's given a bill from congress, banning abortion nationwide, he will sign it. everybody knows that. i know that. if i'm not the smartest person in the world. therefore most people do know that. pi'm warning, women. the next thing trump will do after he bans abortion is -- all the murder laws in our land will apply to
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those cells or whatever you want to call it. then he will go after the women. now they are going up to the doctors and they are not saying anything about the women. but sooner or later, women, they will get you the laws of the land for murder. host: ray in pennsylvania. 14sion have banned abortion. idaho's band is before the supreme court. they have yet to decide -- ban is before the supreme court they have yet toecidehere's what's at stake as the supreme court is set to rule justices will decide whether doctors must be allowed to perform emergency abortions in states where they are outlawed in almost all cases. the court has yet to decide on that. earlier this month on t washington journal, north carolina democratic congresswoman kathy manning was asked about the upcoming supreme court decision, involving this challenge to idaho's strict
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abortion bans. take a listen. >> expectations on the supreme court idaho case and thoughts on the court overall on the issue of abortion. >> i think it's frightening for women across the country to think that if they are in an emergency situation they may not be able to get the care they need. and it is frankly extremely frightening for doctors. to think that they could be criminally prosecuted if they give their patientsd, if they don't give the patients the care they need they host: kathy manning, talking about this upcoming decision by the supreme court on idaho's emergency abortion ban. the court has not decided on that. the is deciding on several other cases they have many cases yet issue. they have added decision days this week. we will hear from themat said, we
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really don't know whether that will work itway up again in the future. and at certain points, the ute of limitations effectively when applied. i think it is important to remember that thisof people want to fear mongering, especially in the area of women's health and reproductive issues. this case was about taking it off the market altogether. this would he been about simply requiring women to have a doctor look at them. and never have to have a pre-visit with the doctor to make sure they were elig follow-up because of extensive bleengincluding cases where women unfortunately di about do we have abortion drugs, it was about
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what are the protections in place? that's something any future administration could say you know what?this is causing an issue safeguard on women using these drugs. host: carrie severino on the supreme court's unanimous decision to protect access to the abortion pill, mifepristone. that cdoast month. court to decide 15 remaining cases. they hared -- heard 61 cases. what's left for the supreme cases are presidential immunity. the former claiming absolute immunity for his role in the january 6, 2021 attack. there is also a january defendant case on whether or not they with obstructing an official proceeding. we have the court on that, as well as t ban. there is a homelessness case as well before the court that we
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have yet to hear about. you can follow our supreme court coverage, if you go to our website, c-span.org. you c -- listen for yourself, the oral arguments you may have missed from this term. mary in north carolina independent, what do you say on this two year anniversary of the dobbs decision? caller: i have several different opinions on it. first off, i'm a christian and-- has nothing to do with women having abortions. i think that for rape, they should automatand i don't think it should be a federal decision. because there are states that are against abortion, no matter what. if a woman -- look at the me coming across the board. a lot of them, the first thing
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they want to do is rape a woman and kill her. host: mary,that's a broad generaliz people who are trying to migrate into the country. caller: well, from the news. many women have been killed by illegal immigrants coming across e bord ok. christina in illinois, good morning. you have to excuse myi be left to the federal government. if it's going to be up to the states, as long as they don't restrict women from going across the border or letting your neighbors nor qq aoing to prison, the woman who said tabortion is used for promiscuous said -- i'm so sorry about my voice. the man who said what the
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federal government was saying that they would take the unwanted children. that would lead them stepping over children all of the place -- all over the place, which totally upsets me. thank you very much. host: wishing a speedy recovery for you. steve in ohio, independent. caller: yes. this is more than just about abortion. when they take it -- kicked it back to the state, there were some cases they thought under scrutiny. the states are supposed to make laws that are constitutional. and if the supreme court says these things, they are all state issuestional rulings. you can make maps that are illegal in terms of how people vote. in ohio, we had a couple of district maps that were illegal and they kept submitting illegal maps. because the people passed a law requiring they. and they violated that unt of time
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they had to use an old map because thethis is about voters life, all kinds of issues beyond abortions. abortion inflames a lot of people. once you get to where the constitution does not matter as far as the supreme court concerned, states can do what they want. so can cities and counties. and you can make laws that violate the constitution and the supreme court saying -- is saying we will look the other way, states can do what they that is a dangerous situation and that's all i want to say about it. it sounds like you disagree with the dobbs decision with the court deciding that abortion rights are not protected byhe constitution. caller: yeah, i think they are ong with that. i think that certainly there is room for saying that women's lives can be protected. but when you have seen what has come about from that decision, it comes out it is clear
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this is two factions of hard headed noncompassionate, un uncaring people and if you can get the supreme court established states can do what they want and certainly when you take a woman's rightscondition that with relieve rape incense or her personal safety and say you are going to have a child no matter what, if you die, you die because the child has a right to live you are beginning to get rulesthat take away the rights of thean income recentlyso they had a district that took all the blks a into this sort meandering district so they can vote someonen office that represents their interest but among that black they can only elect one to the
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state house. so, you are going to get maps already drawn and if the constitution the supreme court you want constitution be damned then i'm concerned that voters rights come into play and i think -- host: understood, steve. e court said that congress needed to act if they be federal rights for abortion. senate democrats recently, fo reproductive rights talked about the issue and dobbs anniversary. senator murray of washington state said this about what democrats want to pass law. >> today we will hold a h committee hearing on the ongoing damage caused bthe doic decision which republicans in the senate enabled and cheered and the cruel republican abortion bans that have been
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passed in state. as we will hear the chaos, fear the heart break caused by extreme republican abortion bans has only grown with each passingda we would like to say it any republicans still in denial this issue is not going away. it is thing from being settle would. women won't forget about the horrors they are put through and won't accept a cities quo where politicians control their most personal medical decisions. we have seen that severalery time abortion rights have been on the ballot the past two years abortion rights have won. that emergency here is clear dark -- that emergency is clear and we are going republicans do not ignore it. i hope republicans will testimony of our witnesses. i hope they will truly take to heart the stories of women and providers whose lives hav turned up side down and ir
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irrevocably harmed by the abortion bans they championed. senate dem keep lifting the voices of women who are bravely stories who will keep shining a westbrooked by cruel republican abortion bans and democrats will not rest until we restore abortion rights for all americans passing the women's health protection a host: that is patty murray there talking ocrats wanting to pass a federal legislation to en enshrine abortion rights. john corneren spoke about the decision overturning roe srfrplts wade. >> mr. president, i want to commend my friends and coll from mississippi and south dakota and oklahoma for their learn in lives of then born and thank them f together in this fight for life.
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two years ago have passed sense the supreme court overturned roe investigate success wade a controversial decision that found to basis in or history of the constitution a right that was paid up by the nine members of the supreme court. what they have done is return where it belongs to the people of the various to protect unborn children. in massachusetts will be different than texas and you may find some different lines being drawn, but make no mistake about it we are here to stand with the unborn who have rights of their own. america can not be at its best if weives of the most vulnerable among us. they deserve protection under the law, too and that's what we are fighting to deliver. make no mistake, those on the other side of the aisle want abortionmand up to the limit without limit up to and
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including the possibility of a live birth. overwhelmingly disapproved of by the vast majority of the american people. the declaration of the right to life. that includes then born as it does every other ican. so i'm proud it stand here in defense of that r it stand with my colleagues as we fight to safe guardhat right to the best of our abilities. texas republican senator john cor talking about what his party is doing on this debate over president biden yesterday ahead -year anniversary of the dobbs decision isn't it out oness ever passes a ban on a woman's right to it. where do you come down on this issue? should it be a federal issue and either a ban or a federal law that unshrines the right for abortion or is it left up to the
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states as it is now after the dobbs decision? kristen in prescott an chris. caller: a couple of things. first, if congress that president biden signs then sobeit, abortion rights should been slained. but it probably will not get through the senate. it probably will not make it through over the tnext five or 10 years my guess just watchinéj work through this. so thepoint is this issue is exact where it should legislatures of the various states. all the back and forth this morning i happened to come on your show and the back andthe democrats independents and me as rlg to occur. people need to get their voice heard and should do that with
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respect for both women that get varies reasons and want to or need to terminate the the president. there's no reason for some of your callers, in my view, if his himself are moving it is -- if his lips amoving. i could say the same about the current president but i try not to. let's talk about the issues and what book do to make i single state this. is what democracy is all gets it debate and -- gets to debate and come up with a solution. host: you may be interested in the gallup poll done examination of voter to this question based on stance on abortion showed pro-choice candidates stand to pwheufrlt more than pro-life candidates from system somewhat abortion if divorce. they found nearly twice as many pro-choice voters as pro-life divorce say they will only vote for a candidate that agrees with
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them on abortion. that is ahead of the november election. you also have abc news reporting this morning about abortion being on the ballotbw several states this november in swing states. divorce in michigan, ohio, california and vermont approved a measure enshrining abortion rights in their state constitution following docks. this year abortion is on the ballot in at least four states and early polling indicates strong support for the measures in red, blue and purple states. being read more reporting on what states will be voting on abortion ballot initiatives and the specific language of each of them. pamela in new york, democratic caller. good morning. caller: good morning. i'm 76 years of age and i remember being a young girl and teenager andorts of women using hangers on
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themselves and to abort their children incest and god knows what. back in the 1920's and 1930's my grand march died from a to beal prosecuting si in 1929. he was wita man alcoholic and she was pregnant again and she had my mom and they were very poor. that is within aspect of what i wanted to say. i remember we roe v wade was passed to know women had a right to do with was done medically. we have a separation of church and state country and if we let this constitution via mr. trump, this is just the going to be told we can and cannot do. execution of women who have had aborti said statements lake we should be pushed an abortion.
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i take issue with the girl that called the christian girl who said abortion was for purposes of promise miss cuity. that is the most most ignorantem heard about abortion. does that womensted and raped are promise most cuss if what about the machine that use viagra but don't need i medical purposes. what if we took away men's ability toet viewing a and -- viagra and cialis because they are promi with the drug. there are cases where the was raped and murdered a the man wa it is outrageous we cannot have medical procedure available to us that is a medical procedure that is when it is neededt can be used. it should be a federalcause that is what the constitution calls for. women have a right to choose what to do with their own
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bodies. host: i'm going to move on to pat in miami, an independent. your turn, pat. caller: good morning. pamela, i think your caller that was just on took a lot of what i had to say. but i would like to add to it. i think it should be a federal law enshrine one i'm a christian, i firmly, firmly believe that life starts at the moment of conception. however, i don't believe that i should choose for someone else. that choice is between them and their god. i have to right to pass thjudgment on anyone. i don't know what situation they are in, what happened, et cetera et cetera. i also would like to say i strong disagree that it should be left to the states. host: given ye an independent, who do you vote for in november? i say something real quick, least? host: yes. caller: it has come back down
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giving it to the states look at the hour rick mess they have us in now. this issue never, never be passed down to the states. coming november, i plan to vote for biden. i'm open, i will open for but trump has left there country so lore -- horrible we have so much that he is tried to change that he should have never tried to ok at his economic issue he will put a tariff on everything coming in. who gets to pay for that? the little people they are the ones that will pay and his -- i don't want to say methodology because it is not on methodology. his way of in and change everything. he claimed he wanted to drain the swamp. he is the swamp. he is paid the swamp worse and i didn't call with the intention of saying that but i'm72 years
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old and i have seen how things the years and he's not a person country. this country has a lot it needs to make up for and in order to get us back to some type of civility we feed -- need to vote for biden and help get back on the ack. host: or kneelia in -- you agree with your state's abortionohio? caller: you know what? i do. the reason is that because unfortunately this with pro-abortion people it is hard to b they would be ok with a baby that is four, five, six, seven, eight months old being murdered for the so-called rights of the since when can we take a separate human being in the development stage and later development stages and just
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murder them? because the woman -- because of inconvenience inconvenience. as far as tubular pregnancy, things that threaten the life of the woman, abortion hasn't been banned in those cases and the life of the woman has never been been the. so i would -- never been banned. so i would like to suggest we really find out what abortion is and how it affects they million babies. there's over a million babies murrayed every year in our country and it is unbelievable. so, here is my suggestion. that uyou c-span, invite president biden and former president trump to come and talk on your program together without notes, without prompts or whatever they need to make their
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points and have a discussion onthey won't come together, maybe individually invite them on and allow them to talk questions from your viewing audience. and also, i'm tkpwggoing to see doctors come on, doctors. they will explain to people does the life of the support ever threatened by pregnancy. is rare. host: abortion likely to be front anden thursday as d' - c-spl to we will be getting your to with you heard from the twoed by open to debate on their improving presidential debates. stay with us. >> on thursday tune into the cn debate
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washington journal inues. host: welcome back to the "washington journal" our conversation the next 45 machines is improving presidential debates many is the chief executive officer of on to debate. what is open to debate, and how did you come up with that name? guest: it is the only nonpartisan nonprofit debate driven media platform. it is a destination where you can alwaysdes of complex policy issues presented we came up with the name last formerly known as intelligenceared may recognize from npr. lso a weekly npr program but we developed it to rain to the moment of being open minded open to other ideas and hearing the other side. as we just heard in the segment before issues we need to work together having that
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mentality. so it is a mind set. host: how is it funded if guest: it is a nonprofit so we are a philanthropy, we have imagine donors, institutional support and grants. >> you have come up with some presidential debates. these are your recommendations. let's talk them one at a time. change moderator preparation you mean? guest: a few things are meant by that. in the study we discovered that the which is often having one or two ask the candidates a lot of questions, sort of resulting in the most surface level responses. erms of moderator preparation there's a different editorial framework that we would apply as debate. that would come down to the way you phrase q a lot of gotcha questions that were intended just for one side to expose one side's weaknesses or
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strengths. so the moderation preparation standards for us involve changing the way we think about framing the topics, issues and the issues divorce care about not just us journalists. host: how would you recommend that these moderators ask a question so that it is more open an framed in a political gotcha way? guest: it isis more of a -- phrasing it or no other for or against. question is asked of a candidate and income evade it or change the isn't or i will get to that ne second but first i want to respond to something i heard five minutes ago so we never hear the questions answered which is a lot of questions through the framing where you get a precision point, counterpoint into depth on that point will make a big difference.
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host: something recommendation give the moderator more power during the debate. that comes down to the mute button. th is one thing we are talking about. we know having a mute button which will happen in thursday as d'antoni will make a big difference if a candidate continues to interrupt or hrlurl personal tax or talk over or mumble duringing able to turn the mff during though moments keeps the focus for the moderators. boy language? somebody might not be interrupting orking but they might be racking. should the show that? guest: i think that is ok. we how the other side is engaging with the opponent. body language is a big part. eye rolling crossg arms, flipping the head back. i think these are important reactions to see when this is supposed to be an exploration of
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policy platforms so i thin that is an important part. host: any recommendation onmera angles? guest: i think that having multiple angles so central on the candidate seeing them tack to the camera, seeing them from the side and what kind of eye contact they would mac with their opponent i think those are important. in our debates we stage them so there is direct eye contact between the two sides because we to have a dialogue and discourse. the presidential debatelittle bit different. >> you also recommend you change the debate format. what do you mean? >> there are a lot of different developed over the years. we design our dates around the oxford style format which starts with a sharp framed question at that time debaters answer yes or no to. they are given uninterrupted time to deliver opening to lay out their arguments and the moderator the two in a cross didretty deep, more rig rugs.
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we bring in members of the med probing questions all in an effort to learn, not win. so different debate tporpblts yield different outcomes but an debate is supposed to be an exchange we are supposed to listen to each side. so our format give interrupted remarks and rebuttal but there's back and forth. host: give us an example ofle. what might be the question and how would you phrase it? guest: we have over 300 of these debates that are available on web site to see. but some moreent ones should congress continue funding the war in islam anti-semitic? married or single. question mark that is more open,the. we get to the yes or no questions and more of a format of,resolved we look at a vulnerable of been to get at or ones so it depends on what we are going for as d'antoni debate producers.
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host: concrete rules. guest: yes. concrete rules, we -- this study we just contacted had interesting data points. you saw one personal attack in 2004 went up to over 70 in the 2016 and 2020 debates. some of the rolls we have have to come down to obvusly controlling the mic is a big one. we talked about but one of the things away like is ging is giving team back to the candidate penalizing bad behavior if they ar constantly interrupting, too much cross caulk or devolves into personal attacks or eye rolling. those long way to restoring civility and respect in what i the high efls profile daytona -- profile date. host: you highlight this in your
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report. we will talk about it. >> cannot look ourselves up in the basement leak joe does. he has the ability to lock himself up. i's made a lot of monday someplace but he has this thing about people can't do that. i as the president could not i would love it put myself in the basement or pwraoufrpl roome appears. i cannot do that. >> he is aguy. he is running against joe biden. iose others because i disagreed with them. joe biden he is running against. host: what would you differently? guest: i think i need to hear that question that prompted that exchange. may not have been the right one. i think at t the moderator control comes in. there are times the moderator needs to interrupt and say i tkpbtdidn't ask that question. we are waiting for the question we asked so there are outputs. if you watch our debates our
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moderator and chief who is the most experienced in america has a masterful way of interrupt a debater perhaps when they deflected or evaded a question and sorry to interrupt you but we wanted to hear an answer to this first question. hearagain. so we get to the yes or no other commitment in answering the question. so talking about the basement who are you runnist track. those are places the should have regained control and between 2016 and 2020 they lost control over 60 times in throws debates and -- in those debates and that is a good example.e three days away from the first presidential debate of this 2024 campaign cycle. cnn debate taking place on thursday. she's the chief executive officer of open to debate. we want to take your thoughts your questions, your comments on
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this this morning. start dialing in and we'll get to those in a minutes. conner, let's talk about the rules for thursday n we ops or prewritten notes will be permitted. candidates must be on the ballot in enough states to reach 270 electoral votes. what do you think is going to work, and where do you think more? guest: one thing that i think, it will be interesting to what works here. in a debate, it's going to come down to edi some of the questions that are asked. but this debate is unique,s. so we're going right into having questionsa] asked one-minute responses, 90-second rebuttalsd responses. it's going to be pretty rapid fire in terms of answering what are ultimately very vague complex questions that we're trying to solve as a nation. so i think in terms quick 60 seconds, 90
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seconds, it's very h out a big vision in 90 seconds or to answer something that's complex in 90 seconds, and then to thorough rebuttal. so it will be interesting to see how the candi have prepared for this in the focus of their responses, but also really how jake and dana are going tose questions. we found that the town hall formats of past years yielded better questions, which those were questions from the audience. those were questions from average americans. i'd love to know if some of these questions would be informed by cnn listeners or c-span viewers and what cross section of american ideas are going to be presented during the debate. host: dana bash and jake tapper are the moderators ofay. bob in ohio, republican. bob, your thoughts on presidential debates. caller: yes, ma'am, i would like to ask the young lady if she
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would consider her -- or her consider the classic debate wherehey each issue and then then speak to the opposition of i'm saying? guest: well, bob, i would say that would happen in my fantasy land. i love of seeing president biden and trump take argue the other side. because what is it demonstrates just how fluent they are in their opposition thinking and understanding the value system the construct of their opponent's point of view. so that would be a fascinating exercise. i don't see it ever happening with our presidential , but some day, if open to debate is able to host a would love to do and bring a lot of credibility to that perhaps we can propose that idea. host: terry in massachusetts, democratic caller. to me it appears that the only reason that you
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have to have a topic like this is because the republican party has been downgrading itself for 40 years now, and it empties out into a sea of trump obstruction stone-age tantrum throwing. i mean, i can't stand oh, we're so divided, and 70% of the people don't want trump oridenor president. but the fact is it's only because of trump, evything else is ok. half the country i voting against itself because t afraid -- host: terry, you're saying have devolved into their current state because of the former president? caller: they haven't -- well, yeah, the maga republicans, they're the devolving ones. i mean to me it started with bush jr. because he was like a little boy in little boy pants and it was obvious that he had
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nothing to do with any decision making at all. host: all right, so cleayou believe debates got off track, or have they always not been done properly, as your grp would argue? guest: we analyzed the last 20 years of presidential debates in this study, which weourse correction, and we found that it's not isolated to, you could call it the trump era that these are trend have been steadily increasing the last 12 to 15 years. you can see the actual numbers there in terms of -- we measure it had by the amount of cross talk, the number of interruptions, how many times moderators lost and also how many questions went was left in terms of policy issues to discuss.l of those had negative outcomes. it's not just a trump phenomenon effect.
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this is definitely something that is a national issue when you're talking about having a functioning democracy. democracy is a conversation, and right now have a dialogue about that. so really, the role of debate is elevate both sides' ideas give us an opportunity to understand each other, and really start from a place of good faith and good-faith calling candidates names is probably not a great place to start a conversation. so that's why our debates are really grounded in starting from a place of civility respect and it has to be implemented by a third-party organization. it's almost a skill that we have to redevelop as a cou host: river view, florida, paul is there independent. hi, paul. caller: good morning everybody. first i nt to say i really enjoy this conversation. i hope your organization does get to host a debate. youranding. two things i'd like to point out. one is the dodging questions. they need to go away. they need to just throw them
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out, point that i really admire that you brought up is hold their feet to answer the question. so many times a moderator asks a really good question, and ne get an answer. that's all i have to say. have a great morninge i said, i do hope that your organization does get to host a debate. guest: thank you. thank you. i wish we could throw out questions too, but the fact is those help drive vithose get clicks. those become the very quick snippet that is we media, the 15 seconds, the 20 seconds to 30 seconds, often taken out of context. so until our sort of media diet, information diet changes, i think we're going to see more of those. unfortunately. host: dennis in nashville caller. caller: yes, good morning. i just wanted to follow up on somethinthat you guys said earlier in the program. there's so many polls of asking americans what's so important for you in the
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upcoming election. there's probably a litany of at least 20 top items, that if you focus on the top six or eight items as far as the candidates instead of like the one gentleman just said, the gotchall that kind of stuff, they really get into what is the policy to address that particular issue. and if you can do that you make more common sense from what the candidates are really going to do versus what they're not going to do. and i think that's an earmark for debates. and ever since i was a kid debates were all based on that hypothetical or the topics. and let topics. host: clea conner? guest: i agree with you. a deeper examin the gotcha questions are a lot of culture or society very surface-level questions designed to create some outrage, designed to spark that moment in t that goes viral later on social media.
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but we need a serving of vegetables sometimes, and for me some key policy areas. it's t economy, it's healthcare, it's education, it's national security. so i though see those issues come up as much as you do. host: cnn will host the first presidential debate, as we said, this thuill haidenti vided onli timeays e first presidential debate of this election cycle.of that, you can watch the second ssues abo, back thursday's 2024 presidential debate. clea conner,t do you make of now these news outlets debates and not the presidential commission on debates? guest: well, the thing is the commission on debates has a track record that unfortunately, led us to this where both parties declined to work with them again this year. so i think there's a role to having a third party nonpartisan, not even bipartisan, but nonpartisan
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organization host the debates that can then become a feed carried by every major newsoutlet. but media outlets have different key performance indicators, for developing their work. c-span and open to debate, we're nonprofit organizations. we're driven by a mission and a different set ofhg that's a little bit different for major media networks and cable news out so i think it's a slippery slope. there used to be a third-party debate organizer way back in thed 1970's, up to the early 1980's, and that's how the presidential debates then evolved into the commission. however, it never quite served the purpose that it needed to,usbates require a different kind of expertise trying to produce these once every four years isn't going to yield super high-quality products versus if you're doing this all the time, if you're studying debe, bringing both sides together a regular basis and understanding very
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tricky very complex, and very smart that this is unprecedentedor ameo have the networks hosting, and we'll see what happens on thursday. host: in a recent interview with cbs, c on presidential debates co-chair the impact on this election cycle without having the commission host debates. >> frank if there are no debates under the auspices of thession, what will the country lose, from your perspective?ave always felt that if you want to be president of the unitta president of the united states, you want to have to stand on the st6í for two purposes. number one to not only describe to the american peoplehat you're going to be doing if you are elected, with regard to that they're concerned with in their everday life.
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easy thing. how do you handle these particular problems, whether it's the economy, whether it's ucation, so forth? the other thing that most people don't realize, and i'm asked very often, done 30-plus debates, what learned about the american people? and what i've learned is the american people want to like and respect their president. that's very clear. we've gone through two cycles now when we've had candidates both sidesser sidesser sidesser who notthe american people. so being able to see themselves during the debates, whether they can obey rules, whether or not they are respectful with their opponent, how do they host: you heard there from frank. did the commission fulfill the role that he outlined there in that interview? guest:ay he described it, the role of the commission was just to give an opportunity forand up there and articulate nd in that regard, yes, they had an opportunity to have a forum for
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making their arguments. or really, it's just at this point their talking points, because there wasn't realen gaugement between the two sides or a l followups as we saw by 2020, the moderators lost coens and dozens and dozens of times. the format yielded a lot lot of interruptions, so while fundamentally it became a space to hear the candidates' ideas it wasn't a debate. host: where did they go wrong? you said their track record led the two candidates to agree not to attend a debate hosted by thek commission. guest: well, i would say there's a think the candidates decided not to work with theyear. it starts two years ago. there was a lot of politics around this, actually, where the r.n.c.embers unanimously voted to stop working with the commission based on the fact they thought it was really
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biased against president trumpy refused to change the dates that the debates so this debate happening this week a presidential debate has ever happened since the in terms of the election cycle. this is happening before the conventions have taken place. so because of the time the commission was inflexible on changing the dates when the debates happen tradition that they've had, they've had foran years, the r.n.c. members animously voted to pull out of working with this commission. my understanding wasministration really believed in the commission, so it was news to me to hear that they weren't going to work with the commission on this debate. and this is also interesting because it's really biden that issued the debate challenge this time around. it was the president on social media challenging trump to a debate on his network, with their preferred journalists, using a format that studio audience. so this is just a completely
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different evolution of debate. i would say it's probably a devaluation of debate since this isn't following a format and it seems to be more of a press conference panel discussion. host: is it a good idea there's noud mixed feelings on that. i think there are times that maybe we hear different kinds of a broadcast environment, versus a live audience. in the past, the town hall format did have better questions, like i said. that was one of the findings of our presidential debate study. so i do like having more of a voice for the american people in these debates. these are really important civic exercises for the country. it's kind of turned into a bit of a media spectacle. so i do think there's a role for the audience. i'd like to see at least one of these recorded in front of a live studio audience or at least featuring a role fothe american public. host: we are talking about the presidential debates, the first one coming up on thursday. cnn will host that. c-span cnning at
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abc reporting biden campaign for cnn debate, and the former president steve in arizona republican, your question or concerns about the presiden go ahead. caller:m concerned that both moderators strong negative trump bias. you can play a half-hourr the last seven years just fact checking him. i can't see why mr. trump would even want to do a debate with those two. has there been aate, douglas-lincoln, where there's no moderator, where they just go at it,you would see aor president a sharper president. i really feel that, and it's just me, because i've seen the media beat up trump for seven years, but biden is already going to know what the questions are going to be. i don't have any
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coming up with trapper and the other strong bias against mr. trump, ans obvious. host: clea conne legitimate concern for a lot of americans. kn outlets that have partisan affiliations or track records of supporting or endorsing candidates. so i believe the credibility of the organization hosting a debate really matters. i think cnn is an network, has incredible inat debate is a different kind of exercise. it requires a different kind of expertise. as debate producers, we believe it's very important, it takes a different tenor, h kind of moderation and takes the findings of this recent study. the reason we did the study is because we have a formula that works really well. we're the nation's onlyte organization, but we wanted data to understand what was really happening to given
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that they're the highest profile contest in tr leaders really interact with one another, understandeir character, hear their platforms, see them engage with each other, and i think we'd love to see a different kind of moderation take place with these debates that we haven't seen in decades. host: cnn will host the first debate on time. abc will host the second debate on september if there's only those two debates, is that enough? guest: i don't think it's enough. i would love to see a debat a live audience. i'd love to see a debate that's really taking the issues that the american public cares about to center stage. i'd love to se has a very different structure that gives our to present and develop their ideas, that reallyn by the 24/7 news cycle. i was reading an article by axios talking about the meme idential debates this year, how these debates are almost be edited down to memes for social media.
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that's kind of ato the american voter. these are opportunities for us to more informed, to see our candidates interact, and to take t seriously. this is our election this year. so i think a debate that is structured in a completely different way would be a game changer for point. host: abc with more reporting on the cnn debate rules, president biden and the former president will to answer questions posted by the moderator, followed by one minute each to respond and rebutt. there will be a red light flashing to indicate to candidates they have five seconds remaining of their a lot time. when their time is over, the light will turn solid red. more on the rules. here is one of our viewers the debate would be criminal. they'd be breaking their own rules. conner? guest: my understanding is cnn adopted the same rules presidential debates and those qualifications seem to exclude bobby kennedy from the debate.
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being able to have third debates with other candidates would be an important function for americans. i though see that in theelection cycle. host: steve, charlotte, north carolina independent. hi, steve. caller: hi. yes, i'm not going to be watching the debate, but i'll watchhe highlights afterwards probably at c-span. m confused about these gentlemethere are so many things that they seem to be ignoring. number one of which, thefight there. it's have no idea what these men are thinking. guest: well, let's watch the debate and see how they take that issue is on. i can't imagine that that question isn't goi come up. this is one of the most conseque foreign policy issues for the country. i would imagine that it's going to have air time during the debate. host: another question here
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to hresidential candidates and one running mate debate. what happened? guest: well, what happened have a debate that's coming out very early, actually in the electionhe conventions have even been held. regardless of having a v.p. pick, we haven't even had the conventions solidifying our candidates. so it's all the way around. it's an interesting new cycle that we're seeing for presidential debates. host: alex in ohio, democratic caller. caller: good morning. i haven. i was hoping that the panel would ask the candidates, if each of them to step down from running for party to run for the high office? host: that's the question you want asked at the debate? caller: that's right. host: clea conner? guest: i would have to leave it to them to answer that question. host: what do you think of the question? guest: i think it's especially one has a
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running mate, one has a v.p., and the other does not. it's a valid two ask. host: doug in falls church, virginia, republican. caller: thanks for tag my calm i'm a big fan of c-span. to echo some of the thoughts already articulated. it's a tragedye not including third-party candidates like r.f.k. jr. in the debate. he has anywhere between 9% and 16% in polls. i think that's a really caller said that cnn has criteria commission. i disagree with that. they created a concept called presumptive nominee. r.f.k. one that is on the ballot in any of these states becauseventions haven't happened for major parties, so it is a rigged concept there. i think call these debates is incorrect. there's really no back meaningful way, and i think the idea twe more moderator intervention is a really bad idea. if one candidate wants to constantly talk and blather on and interrupt other people
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you're going to come across looking like a fool, and i think that's what happened to trump in the previous debate. i think biden rules where you cut off his mic is going to be to biden's it's going to make trump appear more reasonable andot to his benefit. at the same time, we keep he's the victim and he's trying to back and forth. if anyone remembers the debate with him versus paul ryan, he was constantly interrupting paul smirking, being very distracting. i think this is to the benefit of biden. i think democratstting this criteria on these debates, whether it's choosing their own candidate, things like that, they always shoot themselves in the foot. host: your point. we'll get a response. guest: agree with you these aren't really debates. a debate does requiresome opening argument, hearing some specific claims that have a re hearing some actual engagement between the t, because they are just answering questions directly to the this case,
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not to one another, and the moderators kind of referee. so in this case, you're right these are not real debates, so to speak. but they been debates in the classic sense like what we produce at open to debate, for many, many years. that's one of the reasons that prompted thisdy had some more data to work with, could we ultimately the most important debate that we see as a nation. i would love to rehabilitate at some point, because i think most americans have a bad taste their mouth because of these presidential debates and a more negative as a result. and debates are a really important function of a democracy. it's how we get to the best ideas. it's how we come uplutions. we need vibrant disagreement. but what we see modeled in debates isn't necessarily disagreement, it's talking points and sound bites and personal attacks and parts of platforms. i hope that after this, i hope we see a new generation of
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debate coming about. host: clea conner on thursday night, what will you be watching for? guest: it's a great question. we're hosting a watch party in new york city for some of our community members, supporters. we're getting together with donvan and nick gillespie, one of our host moderator. we're having a funnel during the commercial break, which other new thing about debates the first ones in history with commercial break that does concern me. but we're going to be watching in new york. we're be watching for civility, for civil exchange, for respect forwering the questions. you know, not having evading questions and actually working with thesehost: chief executive officer of open to deba learn more if you go to opentodebate.org. you can follow on x at opentodebate. clea the conversation. guest: thanks for having me. host: that does it thank you to all of you for watching and parbe back tomorrow morning
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