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from across the country gather to select their republican nominee for president. watch as they lay out their priorities for the next four years and their party's vision for the future. the republican national convention -- life monday on c-span, c-span now, or online at c-span.org. c-span -- your unfiltered view of the convention. >> welcome back. we are joined now by joey garrison, the white house correspondent for "usa today." welcome. >> thanks. >> you have a busy couple of weeks. you cover president biden and the white house. where do things stand right now? where does president biden stand after the debate and then the press conference thursday? >> we are sitting here saturday morning. president biden has been clear and was clear again last night in a rally in detroit that he is planning -- that he is running for president and nothing is going to change his mind. we have had 24 now congressional

democrats detractors who have said they want bite to withdraw from the race, but biden has made it clear to everyone that he is moving forward. forward. outside of some really talk to democrats, and i'm talking pelosi, clyburn, obama coming to biden and getting in his ear and saying hey, you need to get out, i don't see what's going to push him aside at this point. the campaign seems very intent on moving ahead. host: there were a lot of eyes on thursday's press conference. a lot of people were calling it a make it or break it moment for him. did that change anything in terms of support or opposition? joey: i think if he had just gone out there and done terribly, i think you would have may be some more of a groundswell, more democrats coming out. but he did just well enough. again, the bar was pretty low coming off i thought that's what

i thought was a pretty lackluster interview with george stephanopoulos the week before and the debate -- really bad debate he had. but he did a lot to quell some of the -- a lot of the fears democrats had. there were three or so congress members who issued statements calling for him to drop out of the race. i think those were kind replanted just waiting for the nato summit to get out. friday, we had more democrats, you know, come out asking that he move aside during the nomination. but i think he did, the campaign came away very pleased with how the press conference went. they thought he showed command talking about various foreign policy issues and showed that he was fit for office in that way. of course, fielded questions for an hour from 10 different reporters. the campaign, the white house thought he met the bar. eased the concerns of some democrats but he certainly did

not end all speculation about what might come next for his candidacy. host: his campaign has, as you just said, did react to his thursday press conference positively. otherwise, how has the campaign been reacting to these calls for him to step aside? joey: well, i think what we saw last night in detroit, and i think this was a pretty important rally for biden to have. there was a real boisterous crowd, lively crowd. he came out to chant of "don't you quit!" i think you could see president biden really uplifted by this packed gymnasium in a high school in detroit. you also started to see a new message coming from biden, a new speech where he went after the press. he said hate, i might slip up with some names, i might call charlie bob. what he actually did was call zelenskyy, the president of ukraine, putin, but he

downplayed it there. he said while i am making these, the press is given trump a pass -- giving trump a pass. he's trying to turn the attention from the inner fight within his party over his nomination to trump and his policy agenda. and he has to do that in order to have any chance of winning this fall. he cannot let this be a referendum on his age and his mental fitness. he has to shift this campaign to a referendum on trump and his policies. and of course, what the campaign is doing right now is leaning in heavily on this project 2025, the blueprint, legislative blueprint created by the heritage foundation, which of course lies with trump. that's the message coming from the biden campaign. they are trying to move on past this debate over whether he should be the next nominee, stop really acknowledging it much

publicly and going right at trump. host: ahead of last night's rally, president biden's rally last night in michigan, the associated press tweeted this. michigan governor gretchen whitmer will notd biden's igan appearance on friday. gary peters, a steadfast biden supporter and representat vying for michigan's open senate will also be absent. united autoworkers president sean fain is traveling, he also did not attend. your reaction? joey: that's obviously not a great sign for biden and it shows there is worry throughout the democratic party, in liberal constituencies like the uaw about his shot to win the election. there been reporting of sean fain, the head of uaw, who biden went to the picket line a year ago during uaw's big strike against the three major u.s. automakers, there's reporting that fain is worried biden does

not have any shot to win the election and is terrified about, you know, the prospects of another trump presidency. when it comes to whitmer, of course, she's been on this kind of speculate of short list of democrats that could be waiting in the wing if biden does not continue to seek the nomination of reelection. she wasn't there. of course, it's interesting she wasn't there, because she's publicly been outspoken that she does support president biden. she was among a group of 10 governors and person who met with biden about a week or two ago right after the fallout from the debate. . began. and peters, the senator come of course, is the senator charged with trying to retain the democratic majority in the senate. and so, if he wasn't there as reported, i'm not sure, that obviously is very notable

itself. i mean, democrats throughout the country right now, especially in these swing districts, congressional districts in some swing states, you know, they are looking at a president that has got incredibly low approval ratings. they are worried, you know, that the house could, you know, just to be a disaster in terms of republicans growing a majority. they are worried about the senate, democrats losing control of the senate. and all those, you know, what they are concerned about is biden bringing down the democratic ticket across the country. and you know, biden has got a long ways to go before he solves that angst that's within the party right now. host: we are talking with joey garrison, usa today white house correspondent about president biden's reelection bid and future of the democratic party. if you have a question or

comment, you can start calling in now. the lines, the democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. as we mentioned, all eyes on president biden on thursday during that news conference. but between now and november, everything he does is going to be heavily scrutinized. what is the campaign doing to ensure that he is putting his best foot forward and reassuring people that he has what it takes for the next four years? joey: well, as has came out and some reporting, they are going to try to limit any late-night campaign events. the one last night in detroit, that kind of got off starting around 7:00 p.m. really, the white house has really for the last year or two has made sure any of his public events is between 10:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. biden was asked about that and pushed back at this idea that he

cannot handle it. he said he just needs to pace himself more. there's going to be structural things with the campaign that they are going to try to do to make sure the best biden is going forward and not the biden that we saw in the debate. but you are right, we saw it on thursday, which i think, again, democrats in the campaign were pleased with generally how that press conference went. but for a lot of folks, you know, the most memorable things that came out of it was biden calling vice president kamala harris vice president trump. and then before that, introducing ukrainian president zelenskyy as president putin before world leaders. you know, while we are all questioning, or much of the political world is questioning whether biden can do this, remain as president till he's 86 effectively, it just draws more scrutiny for any kind of slip-up, any kind of gaffe, flub that he could have in the

coming weeks. biden, even before this disastrous debate he had, he was, you know, a self-described gaffe machine. there's going to be slip-ups. the campaign was asked about this ms. speaks that biden -- misspeaks the other night, and they said look, biden has made gaffes for 40, 50 years and probably will continue but look at trump's agenda. they are going to try to pivot to, yeah, ok, let's look at trump was trying to enter the white house again. host: first caller for the segment in buoy, maryland calling on the democrats lined. hi. caller: yes. good morning. mr. garrison, now, you're a reporter and you don't know why governor whitmer was not at the rally? that's because she had something else on her calendar. i read that the other day.

why don't you know that? you are a reporter. so far as president biden gaffes, we all make gaffes. i could have easily called you joshua, but your name is joey. that's no problem. president biden has an administration, a capable administration that helps him run this government. there is no shadow government, none of this crazy stuff that the republicans are talking about. this one caller, matt from massachusetts, he was not sure about president biden running again. he had three points. he couldn't even remember his last point and he's a young man. we all have gaffes. i could care less about the gaffes. you don't care about trump calling his so-called doctor in the white house johnson. his last name is jackson. and trump talking about electrical boats and sharks and all that craziness.

come on, people. get a grip. joey: i mean, i think that's exactly the point the biden campaign is trying to make. click, we all make gaffes. these are insignificant ones. biden in a speech last night in detroit said trump is a guy who instead of saying nancy pelosi in regards to january 6 talked about nikki haley. so, you know, i think that you, with biden last night, was talking about the press being too hard and hammering him and, you know, being easy on trump and letting him off the hook. i think he was speaking to folks like you who are frustrated with the coverage the best they are seeing. thanks for the call. host: rick in birmingham, alabama on the independent line. caller: how are you doing? mr. garrison, i agree with what you are saying. but the problem, for me as an

independent, i mean, i'm definitely not for trump. but the problem for me is are the people that's behind joe biden, if they really want to get behind this guy, they have to get behind him totally, no matter what. when you look at trump supporters, he even set himself, he can go out on fifth avenue and kill somebody, they will still support him. they are going to support him all the way. i just want to ask you, why is it that the democrats don't do the same thing? what's the problem? joey: i think. great question. i think there's various key constituencies within the democratic base, young voters, black voters, hispanic voters where biden is underperforming. if you look at polling, there is any number of ways you could sort of unpack what's going on right now. but i don't have the most recent numbers ahead of me. but of people, of the 2020

voters, trump, a much larger percentage of those who voted for trump say they plan to do so again in 2024 compared to biden, where fewer of those are on board this time. so, there's more people who are concerned, you know, just uneasy, unexcited, on enthused about it biden second term among the democratic base. you know, i think for, you know, pointing out that, you know, one of the concerns when all this is discussed about whether biden has the mental fitness and sharpness, acuity for another term is i think for a lot of independent voters, who ultimately are going to help decide this election, they look at biden, they don't really like either of these guys. they call them the double haters. but in their mind, they say, well, i might not be a fan of trump. i am worried what he might do in a second presidency. i don't like his style.

but then again, i am really worried that biden could really be in command in the white house. so, it turns this into kind of an equalizer affect, his age and those concerns about it and having it continuing on with his second term. host: janice in tennessee on the democrat line. good morning. caller: i just want to say, everybody is complaining about biden's age and his stuttering problem. let's put it this way, trump repeats every freaking lie he's ever said in his life and he keeps on saying get. i just want to say about this, they complain about biden's age, but look at the people in congress. you have got mitch mcconnell cannot say a word anymore. you've got some of them are like 89 years old. what are they complaining about? you know, [indiscernible]

because he's got parkinson's so that. it's just, you know. why just pick on him? joey: you are right. i mean, d.c. and the capital has become a much older place. it always has been, over the years. by the way, janice, i'm from tennessee as well, so it's good to hear from somebody from my home state. in some regard, among democrats, anyways, you recently had pelosi, hoyer, others approaching their elder age who kind of stepped down from leadership positions. biden is trying to continue at 81, about to be 82 in november. throughout the republican party as well, you have mcconnell, who, you know, plans to step down from leadership soon. but, you know, yeah, it's an old, it's definitely a group

where you have a lot of folks in the 80's here in, at the capitol. host: randy in florida on the republican line. good morning, randy. caller: good morning. i just want to say, this is not a popularity contest. this is not the miss america contest or anything like that. this is about policies. you have to look at what the policies of the trump administration versus the biden administration has been over the years. we have seen both of them perform and we know where we were when trump was in office and we know where we are now currently. thank you for listening to me. joey: yeah, the biden campaign is trying to make it about policies by really hammering, and i think you are going to start to hear a lot about this, but the project 2025 is something they've ramped up a lot since the debate, you know, focusing how there are policies

in there to, you know, eliminate the fbi and department of education and québec climate change or -- cut back climate change research, policies that the administration and the campaign calls extreme. they think that's a winning argument for them if they put that out there. caller: during the 2024 campaign, president biden had -- host: during the 2024 campaign, president biden had said that he was going to serve as a bridge for younger generations and he was asked about that during the press conference thursday. here are those remarks. we will talk about it after. >> and 2020, you referred it to yourself as being a bridge candidate for a younger, fresher generation of democratic leaders. and i wanted to know, what changed? pres. biden: what changed was the gravity of the situation i inherited. in terms of the economy, our

foreign policy, and domestic division. and i think, i won't put words in anybody's mouth. most presidential historians give me credit for having accomplished more than most any president since johnson and maybe before that to get major pieces of legislation passed. what i realized was my long time in the senate had equipped me to have the wisdom on how to deal with the congress to get things done. we got more legislation -- more major legislation passed that no one thought would happen and i want to finish it, to get it finished. tomorrow, if we had a circumstance or whatever, there was a lineup and i didn't happen to inherit what i did and we just moved things along, anyway. it's going to change. host: president biden has also said that it's not about his

legacy, him running for reelection, but it's about finishing the job. has he outlined exactly what it is that he wants to accomplish? joey: he did last night in his speech for the first time start talking about a first 100 days, and includes things like restoring roe v. wade legislatively, pass the john lewis voting rights act, strength and enhance -- strengthen and enhance medicare, social security. a lot of these will not pass congress under its current construction and singly face a threat of -- seemingly face a threat of filibuster from republican so it's probably not a very practical first 100 days that he talked about in his ruddy last night but it is an aspirational. he's trying to rally of democrats to get behind a vision there. he was asked about whether, you know, what happened, this whole idea of being a bridge

candidate. during the campaign, he never actually said what he meant by that. he could say i will be a bridge candidate by being president for eight years and then pass the baton. he tried to push back at this idea of him wanting to serve another term isn't just about his ego or political ambitions. said it's not about my legacy, i just got here and the stakes are so high. people can, democrats can sort of push back on that if they want. and you know, question whether that's really the case or whether this is just about a person who, again, has been a politics for 50 years, so it's kind of hard to hang get up, whether you are an athlete or in politics. that's kind of the argument that biden is pushing forward, there's just two more he wants to get done let me get the -- there's just too much more he wants to get them, let me just get the job done. host: glenn on the democrat line. caller: i would like to say this.

first of all, i think that president biden is fit to be president. he's been president for 4.5 years. he's done a very, very good job. because i know some things that have happened under his presidency have really helped me in my life. i don't understand the point that we keep hammering on this. why do you keep ringing this up everyday about president biden? we don't see you bringing up that the against president trump. i'm sick and tired of this and i'm being very real. black people are really sticking with this president. all i've noticed, everybody that's come out of this democratic party are white lawmakers, everybody that i'm think. i want to say this, sir, you down plane 2025 that the democrats are putting 2025. it should. because first of all, be very afraid. i'm a black person, african-american. i'm very afraid of project 2025. we need to talk about it more. i don't see you on c-span bringing this up everyday. why you're not breaking up

project under 25 everyday -- why y'all not breaking up project 2025 everyday? 34 counts felony, donald trump, alleged rapist. y'all not bringing any of that up. let's get real. we are only trying to talk rep president biden. president biden has done a lot. host: we are -- we actually have quite a bit discussed project on a 25 as was president trump lawsuits. do you have any response for her? joey: it again speaks to what president biden was talking but yesterday in his rally. as a way to energize base around him, he said the press is giving trump a free pass, they are not talking about project 2025, let me talk about it. we of course are, as you noted, reporting about it extensively, both your program, my publication, others. but it's a way for him to rally democrats. and she is also right, black democrats in congress very loyal

right now to the president. there is, you know, the black congressional caucus has remained steadfast in its support. that's very key. that's the most important demographic historically for democrats. and you know, that is a major, as biden continues to try to fight back in the effort to force him out, but that's a major advantage he has right now in holding his ground. host: david in new york on the independent line. hi, david. caller: good morning, everybody. i am actually a true independent. i am in brooklyn. this project 2025 from where we are at, the independents, it seems kind of like what they talked about with the pee tapes and with all the other things, the russia hoaxes, and all that other stuff. i'm not sure that's the way the democrats are going to pull voters. my question is to joey.

one president trump, who profited financially from business, got in, the first week they talked about the 25th amendment, and yet we have someone who is very much in a cognitive decline. we've seen over and over again. no one brings up the 25th the minute -- amendment. i am just wondering why? joey: i think you have heard some house republicans start floating that idea following the debate. i just don't think it's a very practical thing to exercise here. i think it's more thrown out or introduced as a kind of political point to try to go after, you know, the president. the same case with trump. i don't think that was ever going to be executed. that's kind of what we see, what's discourse around using the 25th amendment. host: we are talking with joey garrison, usa today white house

correspondent. we have him for about another 15 minutes. if you have a question or comment, feel free to call in or text us. you can also leave us a message on twitter or on x. let's hear from harmon in port arthur, texas on the democrats line. hi, harmon. caller: i am for biden and i think biden is 81 years old. i'm 89 myself and i still got a good mind. to me, age don't matter. biden have a good cabinet and that's what i like about them. have a good cabinet. when trump was in there, every time i look, he's getting rid of somebody. biden has a good cabinet. i think he needs to come done more on trump. january 6, nobody is talking about that. people died in that. january 6, nobody discusses that. the democrats need to come down on trump. if biden lose, his own party

going to be cost that he. thank you. joey: i think you are going to start hearing a lot more about january 6 from the biden campaign when it comes to television ads. and again, it is framing trump as a true threat to the united states. and right now, again, that's what biden was talking about yesterday. we are not talking about it enough. it's going to be the campaign's responsibility here and kind of their goal to make sure it is discussed more. so thanks for the call. host: in maryland. good morning. caller: good morning. beautiful. let me make a brief call-in and then i will end. the previous speaker spoke about january 6.

and if we have any reasoning people in this country who are interested in the development of the country, we wouldn't even be considering donald trump for anything, not even for a [indiscernible] and let alone for the president of the united states? where is our minds? where are our minds, rather? english happens to be my fourth language that was imposed on the colonial africa that i came from. ok. i have five children here and five grandchildren and many more are coming. i think i have enough working knowledge of english to say let's make is donald trump retarded? he's talking about let's make america great again? when was america great? was it the time we actually came

here to slaughter the native americans. -- americans? or the ku klux klan? or racism? or the hanging of people on the trees, lynching of people? when was the united states great? host: let's get a response from the guest. joey: oh, yeah, well, i think you speak to a lot of folks who when you hear that language of let's make america great again, for a lot of people in this country, it wasn't so great, of course, when there were not civil rights for many groups of americans. i think when people hear that message, depending who you are, depending what your background is, you hear a lot of different things with trump's core message, of course, going now all the way back to 2016 and today to 2024. host: last night at the rally in michigan, president biden did

reaffirmed that he is going to remain in the race. the dnc convention starts in chicago in 37 days. if something happens between now and then, is it plausible to replace him as the top of the ticket? joey: well, i mean, time is running out here. as you pointed out, 37 days here. and the first thing that's required for there to be a different nominee who is nominated at the convention would for biden to willingly essentially say i am not going to seek the nomination anymore and releases delegates, that of course, have been pledged to him through the various primaries that we saw this year. so that's the first step. he does not seem willing to do that. but the one other hurdle that you have, if let's say he does, let's say there's a groundswell of more democrats saying, hey, you got to get out. and he comes to a different mind and says, yes, i will. well, there is various hurdles

state-by-state in terms of when, you know, those states have to approve the ballots for the november election. we've seen a legal battle in ohio just with putting biden's name on the ballot. you can bet republicans are not going to make it easy for democrats to all of sudden switch nominees. i think you would see lawsuits in various states trying to keep him off. democrats nominated, the voters nominated joe biden, you cannot all of a sudden put kamala harris, or whoever, at the top of the ticket. so it would be very messy. and then, of course, you get to the process of actually nominating a replacement for biden. would you do that? i have seen some people kind of introduce this idea of a blitz primary, where you have a certain number of candidates and then let the delegates, sort of rank choice, who they are. or do you do a different mechanism? i think kamala harris would be

the favorite but that's not a guaranty. it would really, you know, open things up to who knows what direction. of course. , it would make that dnc convention that we are attending in chicago very interesting. host: the dnc convention will be in chicago next month. c-span will be covering it. the rnc convention in milwaukee kicks off on monday. we will be covering that as well. you can find more information on c-span's webpage, c-span.org/rnc2024. there's scheduling information and key speeches from this year's convention will be on there and you can also look at previous gatherings. jim in idaho calling on the republican line. hi, jim. caller: yes, my problem with biden is he don't know the definition of murder. we got all these babies being killed.

we got the spread of aids and hiv, a lot of people has died. when a shooter goes out and shoot somebody, yes, that's murder. but then he wants to blame everybody and he wants to take everybody's gun away and says we don't -- you don't need a gun, we got the national guard. president trump, he activated the national guard during black lives matter, a lot of businesses was being destroyed. host: we will get a response from joey, jim. joey: um, yeah, it sounds like probably a republican voter who does not appreciate some of biden's democratic views on abortion and others there. president biden has always himself kind of personally struggled with abortion as a

catholic. of course, he is supportive of abortion rights and right now says, you know, he wants to restore the protections of the roe v. wade for 50 years. granted, of course, it was overturned in the supreme court in 2022. i know that the caller does not agree with the deposition that biden has but the democrats and biden campaign believes, you know, it can really capitalize in certain states on abortion being on the ballot after some states have, have, have banned abortion or at least restricted it following the supreme court's ruling. but all that, i mean, this abortion issue has really sort of got lost in recent weeks following the crisis biden finds himself in. that's one of the things biden needs to redirect and use a lot of surrogates to really hammer down and decide that abortion is

on the ballot. we did see after the supreme court overturned roe v. wade, we saw a real, you know, this issue galvanize women voters and democratic voters. two years later, is still going to have that same effect? we will see. host: kathy in ohio on the democrat line. good morning. caller: good morning. i want to say that trumpet meeting with victor aurburn yesterday -- victor orban yesterday says everything about what he would be you like if he were elected. they ended their meeting with a great big hug and a thumbs up. what's that all about? orban has been going around, met with putin, xi, the guy from china, jean ping, and you know just xi jinping, and you know, it's very scary. joey: and that of course came

around the same time at the nato summit that biden was hosting in washington. the biden campaign and president biden is going on the attack against trump, saying this is a guy who is interested, wants to be friends with the dictators, points out the orban meeting. biden is saying during his vital address closing out nato the other day that the future of nato is really at stake, pointing to trump's pastor marks test passed remarks -- past remarks. casting doubt on whether the u.s. should continue to play a part in the alliance that's been around for 75 years. meetings biden, former president trump has had with orban in mar-a-lago very interesting and noteworthy. host: another tennessee caller for you, angela: on the independent line. hi, angela. caller: hi. i just want to say that i am for

biden. i don't see how anybody can vote for a criminal, treasonous person like tramp. and when it comes to the abortion, some women are getting denied health care that want their babies, but they are dying because their baby died. and they cannot even get health care. that's terrible. ok, thank you for taking michael. that's my call -- my call. joey: the biden campaign have pointed out some of these individual stories like the caller just described to try to put a face to what the supreme court's decision wasn't how that's played out. i think you are going to start hearing a lot more of those kind of cases. i think that will be a big theme at the dnc convention. wouldn't shock me if they have somebody take the stage and talk to people, or talk to the crowd, a live audience, how this decision has affected them

personally. host: mark in the st. paul, minnesota on the republican line. hi, mark. caller: hi. it seems to me that biden's mental decline was common knowledge amongst the white house press corps. chuck todd, for example, a couple of days ago said on a podcasted that two years ago he was speaking to a high-level cabinet secretary and the secretary said to him, "he can't be running like this, can he?" and of course, the wall street journal had its long article about biden slipping. i want to know, how many stories did usa today do about biden's mental decline or lack of mental acuity? joey: i think we had several stories on his age and the issues that concerns people had about them. i think really, you know, in the last six months, reporting has talked about this, really starting at the beginning of the

year, i think there has been a change in biden in terms of how he presents itself, in terms of maybe lapses that have been going on behind the scenes. and you know, so i think that is why, potentially why we saw in that debate just a kind of biden at his worst state right there. and yeah, i mean, it's been, the moment he took office, president biden, you know, he was already the oldest president in united states history. so it's been a question hanging over his whole presidency. the white house did a lot of things for three and a half years to kind of minimize the opportunities for his age to really show. most notably, he's, yes, he did conduct a solo press conference the other day, but i think it was only his 14th or 15th. he is had way fewer -- he's had a way fewer total press

conferences than his past immediate predecessors. he has very rarely sat down for television interviews and even fewer times has he set down, unfortunately, with print reporters like myself. so, those are some of the ways that i think they were intentionally trying to limit opportunities for biden to show any mental decline that might be out there. host: one last call. events in florida on the -- you that on -- yvette in florida on the democrats line. caller: wow, i cannot believe i got through. its my first time. i've been a longtime listener, first time caller. i will be voting for joe biden or whoever it is they decide to put up. i think it will be joe. i think it's kind of late in the game for [indiscernible] we have a gaffe-prone

candidate, biden. and we have a candidate, trump, who has displayed mental disorders quite blatantly and over and over. a narcissist, sociopaths, you name it. this guy has got to go. and why his party is totally behind him and biden's party is trying to sink him is beyond me. i don't understand what's going on there. joey: thanks for the call. i think barring something major happening, you are going to get your wish where biden is going to be the democratic nominee. as we wrap up at the show here, he has showed no signs that he's interested or considering stepping aside. i think when he saw that crowd in michigan last night, i think he says, hey, look, i've got all these supporters. why would i drop out here?

the biden campaign is pointing to head-to-head polls. there was one by npr that had biden up two points over trump. of course, i would argue that those national polls are kind of hiding and giving a misleading picture when you break it down and look at the bow to ground states like pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, where biden is largely behind. i think outside of there being a major development where you have, again, like the likes of pelosi, or clyburn, or obama the former president,, going to biden and sitting him down and giving a full-court press and assange you got to drop out -- and saying you got to drop out. outside of something like that happening, i don't see how it's not biden as the democratic nominee at 81 years old going up against trump in november. host: joey garrison, white house correspondent for usa today. you can find his work at usatoday.

good morning. it was last night in detroit michigan that president biden made those remarks at the events from the associated press. this article notes, at the same school where four years ago then-candidate biden positioned himself as a bridge to the next generation of democratic leaders the embattled president, who has been under pressure from more than two weeks to step aside, made it clear he was going nowhere. here are some of president biden's remarks from last night. pres. biden: folks, you probably noticed there is a lot of speculation lately. what is joe biden going to do? is he going to stay in the race? is he going to drop out? i am running, and we are going to win. [cheering] in fact, just today the national

poll has me beating trump 50% to 48%. so much of my campaign has fallen apart, they sent. i'm the nominee of the democratic party. the only democrat or republican that has been donald trump, ever. and i'm going to beat him again. i know him. donald trump is a loser. [cheering] host: more from the associated press. the show of force from biden at the rally was part of his team's relentless sprint to convince lawmakers, donors, and a skeptical electric at the age of 81 he is still capable of being

president.